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Goyer making an INVISIBLE sequel... no, not the one with the boy... the one with the MAN!!!

First? by Proman1984	Jun 14th, 2007 02:50:11 AM
Goyer Sucks!
Cool. Chevy Chase needs work. And he chooses HD-DVD. by Darth Bauer	Jun 14th, 2007 02:50:49 AM
j/k He choose Blu-Ray.
More specifically Batman Begins was the most overrated by Proman1984	Jun 14th, 2007 02:51:44 AM
Film and script of the decade. I seriously dislike Goyer and his work on comic properties be it Blade or anything else. I and I actually liked Carpenter's Memoirs of the Invisible Man so color me uninterested.
And this sounds like the character from LOEG by Proman1984	Jun 14th, 2007 02:53:19 AM
This sounds like League of extraordinary gentelmen. Gimmicky plot = crappy movie.
That sounds as good as SuperMax!!! by Darkcityuk	Jun 14th, 2007 03:01:45 AM
What a kack idea. Somewhere during 2004 Goyer became really really shit. Blade 2 is a masterpiece but blade 3 stank to high heaven. Ever since then all his projects have sounded crap. and SuperMax sounds like a kind of film you put in old cameras.
www.AintItHDDVD.com by wadi77	Jun 14th, 2007 03:06:39 AM
The new URL.
I like some of Goyer's stuff by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 14th, 2007 03:14:58 AM
Blade and Blade II are great, and I believe he was involved with the script for Dark City, which I liked. I do wonder how much of his 'magic' was left in the Batman Begins script, though. The silly third act seemed very much Goyer's kind of thing, but everything leading up to it felt more Nolan-y to me.
I like the period setting. by Sly Fox	Jun 14th, 2007 03:18:18 AM
And that it's spun-off the book, but hopefully it won't cover the same ground as LOXG (as Proman1984 fears).
Hire Memflix? by Playkins	Jun 14th, 2007 03:24:18 AM
Why, because of the way he showed his integrity by totally betraying his employer's trust?
I'm sorry, I had to... by pendy16	Jun 14th, 2007 03:34:37 AM
One of the best skits ever performed... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =evx_Ps85yu8
Is there a writer/director shortage? by Darksider	Jun 14th, 2007 03:39:08 AM
Goyer was an OK writer. He's just shit as a director and his track record has been pretty shitty as of late. I still can't believe that he got Magneto instead of Alfonso Cuaron. He must be blowing someone.
WW2 sounds fun by Kenny8	Jun 14th, 2007 03:51:43 AM
..he should hook up with Abbott & Costello again!
1 degree of Kevin Bacon by gride9000	Jun 14th, 2007 04:35:02 AM
Original?...HELL NO! THE THRILL RIDE OF THE SUMMER?....Perhaps Will it be remade again?.....fursure!!!
No more invisibilty!!! by Incompetent Ninja	Jun 14th, 2007 05:16:50 AM
Did we learn nothing from Hollow Man?
Worst. Headline. Ever. by BannedOnTheRun	Jun 14th, 2007 05:23:49 AM
Well, almost. Not that I have a better suggestion.
Huh? by MachinaMan	Jun 14th, 2007 05:44:29 AM
Fr: frg10 I blame him for killing the Blade franchise with his terrible Blade: Trinity ... bad director even though a couple of steps ahead of the THREE AMIGOS (Lee Tamahori, Uwe Boll, Eli Roth) I was almost in agreement with you there (not that it really matters, but hey) till you made Lee Tamahori one of your 'Three Amigos'. While I can't speak much for his Hollywood studio work (though I did enjoy Die Another Day – though hated the title track because Madonna is not fit to sing songs that were primarily the domain of the remarkable Shirley Bassey ) and while his other movies may not be all that good, you have to keep in mind that this is the man that directed Once Were Warriors (and admittedly he hasn't rose to such heights since, though to have achieved such brilliance even once in a lifetime is worthy of celebration). And yes, David Goyer did indeed kill the Blade Trilogy, and his movies he writes tend to be repetitious to such a degree that it almost appears that the screenwriting process is essentially a cut in paste job. For me, if he came off in interviews as somewhat humble I could accept that as a director he gives the word 'hack' a good name (Zig Zag, if memory serves, was little more than decent. Nothing remarkable, but you didn't feel somehow violated and unclean after watching it) instead he comes off as if he were some sort of uber-talented director/writer, when we all know the reality is somewhat different.
Don't like the premise. by stones_throw	Jun 14th, 2007 05:46:10 AM
Too gimmicky.
INVISIBLE AGENT (1942) - It's already been done! by TheFoywonder	Jun 14th, 2007 06:00:06 AM
This very movie has already been made by Universal no less. Look it up on IMDB. Invisible Agent was even released as part of Universal's Invisible Man Legacy Collection DVD set a few years so it's hardly some unknown obscurity, and yet not a single article about this new film has pointed out that Goyer's "fresh" idea to have a relative of the Invisible Man using the invisibility formula to fight Nazis is hardly original.
bacci40: That doesn't matter. by Playkins	Jun 14th, 2007 06:00:40 AM
Most companies have NDAs written into the paperwork you sign when you accept employment. Not to mention, it should be a given in this day and age that you don't jump onto a website and spill your guts about your company or it's dealings. Memflix jeopardized his theater's contract with Fox.
I like the WW2 idea, but never liked Goyer... by Jakes Nel	Jun 14th, 2007 06:14:11 AM
He's been lucky enough to work with very talented directors who make him and his bland scripts look good. If Nolan didn't do touch-ups on the BB script, it would have been no better than Blade: Trinity. Who's responsible for Blade 2 being a cool movie? Guillermo del Toro. Dark City? Alex Proyas and Lem Dobbs. Not Goyer.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DAVID S. GOYER by Fenrisulfr	Jun 14th, 2007 06:33:04 AM
I couldnt resist, lol. David Goyer SUCKS MAJOR BALLS when it comes to directing. After the exciting Blade 2, he screwed up the whole franchise by delivering a pathetic uninspired and poorly directed conclusion to the saga he created. The guy cannot direct.
Credit for Batman Begins by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 14th, 2007 06:47:34 AM
It reads Story by David Goyer, Screenplay by Christopher Nolan & David Goyer; which I think suggests Nolan did a substantial rewrite on Goyer's script. I read a thing about screenwriting arbitration a while back - my memory of it is sketchy, but I think you have to prove you've added a very high percentage of new material to have your name listed first in the screenplay credit. I'm not sure. Maybe an expert out there can advise? Anyway, I think I agree with Jakes Nel. Goyer seems better when filtered through more talented directors. Left to his own devices, he gives the world Blade Trinity, which he might just as well have titled BLADE 3: FUCK YOU, WESLEY SNIPES!.
This is about the Invisible Guy... by micturatingbenjamin	Jun 14th, 2007 06:58:24 AM
...not, in fact, 'Batman Begins'. Which was a flawed but great Batman movie. There was an article by Joss Whedon about 'Spider-Man' movies that didn't have 'Spider-Man' in them in Wizard, I think it was. It was a good article, and reminded me that the spirit of a movie is just as important as all the stuff lots of critics get hung up on. Goyer wrote an interesting script, it was flawed, but Batman Begins was an excellent, broad scoped, character driven flick, and Christian Bale and Michael Caine work well together. I liked it, but as I've said before, I thought Until the End of the World deserved an Oscar for best screenplay, so again, your mileage may vary on that stuff. Goyer wrote Blade II? Shit yeah! The dude from Boondock Saints (I can't remember his name because it's hell-early where I am right now) was the law in that movie. Yeah, this sounds an awful lot like the LOEG comic, where the Invisible Man in the book is a criminal who found the dude's formula. Alan Moore's work should not be translated for the screen, unless, of course, they bring him to the damned table and MAKE him co-direct it, write the script....Anyway...Invisible guy fighting Nazis? You make the Invisible guy Simon Pegg or Reece Shearsmith, and fuck, I'm there.
Thanks Foywonder... by tonagan	Jun 14th, 2007 07:03:42 AM
I could have sworn that Universal had already done that, but couldn't remember the exact details. See everybody? The talkbacks are useful for something besides yelling at each other.
goyer is an unbelievable twat by mutombo	Jun 14th, 2007 07:14:31 AM
seriously. Both blade 3 and the invisible were the biggest piece of hollywood crap Ive seen in a long while. Yes, that includes semi romantic flicks with ben stiller and jennifer lopez. He should quit writing and directing and get to producing.
How did Goyer kill the Blade series??? by Frijole	Jun 14th, 2007 07:14:35 AM
Did he take it somewhere that I (and many others) didn't like? Yes. Did he show less directorial prowess than delToro and even Norrington. But he didn't KILL anything. He CREATED the fucking thing. And yes, I know it was based on pre-existing Marvel characters... but the movie counterparts are about as far from their comics counterparts as they can be while still retaining their names. Look, I wasn't thrilled with Blade:Trinity either (save for man-crush Ryan Reynolds), but cut the guy some slack. Jesus.
"Invisble" isn't a word by Leopold Scotch	Jun 14th, 2007 07:15:14 AM
Just sayin' is all.
Hollow Man by Mr Gorilla	Jun 14th, 2007 07:18:42 AM
Verhoeven could have made a kick-ass Invisible Man film, but I hear that a way into the process he was told he had to set most of the film in the science base, or the Wells estate would sue. Shame, he'd just done Starship Troopers, he was on a roll.
fair enough by mutombo	Jun 14th, 2007 07:19:34 AM
Goyer has ambition and has talent and has knowledge of comics. He just ran out of steam a long time ago, and lacks directional skills in terms of feature films. Writing-- perhaps. Directing: no.
Sounds cool by ODM	Jun 14th, 2007 07:25:07 AM
But like someone else said, concept good, Goyer involved with said concept not so good... I'll give the benefit of the doubt though.
Studios: WHAT.THE.FUCK.IS.WRONG.WITH.YOU. by TopHat	Jun 14th, 2007 07:36:40 AM
Did you SEE BLADE III?? Why do you keep giving this man such posh feature films? BLADE III was H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E. Stop giving this no-talent hack all your great properties!!
He did wound it quite badly, though by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 14th, 2007 07:44:25 AM
Partly with the weakest of the three stories, but also by sidelining Snipes in favour of Biel and Reynolds (admittedly, Reynolds was very funny). That second thing is the part that annoyed me the most. I mean, it's Blade's series, and he's reduced to a near supporting role in that film. For shame, David Goyer. Still, I'm a bit of a Goyer fan. I like that he's clawed his way up from the DTV hell he started in, and I also admire his full-sleeves. Whenever I see him in interviews, he seems like a decent guy, and he's got a job many geeks would kill for. Good for him. I just wish he'd make a really good film.
too bad they already killed Allan Moore's version by pipergates	Jun 14th, 2007 08:44:39 AM
incompetent idiots
VIVA MEMFLIX... by Napolean Solo	Jun 14th, 2007 08:48:11 AM
VIVA MEMFLIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Batman Begins by Robots In Das Guys	Jun 14th, 2007 09:32:07 AM
The leaked script by Goyer alone was like 80% of what ended up in the movie. Nolan DID change some things (horrible Goyer lines that I can't remember) but the guy is not a complete hack.
pendy16 by gotilk	Jun 14th, 2007 09:32:19 AM
Yes!! Amazon women on the moon! "Being invisible is the BEST!"
David Goyer has chosen Laserdisc . . . and here's why! by Mike_Honcho	Jun 14th, 2007 09:33:54 AM
The idea of re-imagining The Invisible Man just feels right. Almost as right as a Hollow Man 3.
Invisible secret agent? by BillyPilgrim	Jun 14th, 2007 10:30:06 AM
I smell hijinks!
Isn't he batting .000? by valetparkingguy	Jun 14th, 2007 10:32:24 AM
Seriously, that dude is 0 for 3 when it comes to directing. Why is he still getting hired? Even if he made a shitty movie that made money I would understand the studio hiring him again (see Tim Story). But his movies have gotten shit reviews and all lost money. What's up with that?
I think CG what it is now can really tackle this by modlight	Jun 14th, 2007 10:48:07 AM
wait.
Thanks Foywonder, by TimBenzedrine	Jun 14th, 2007 10:51:31 AM
I thought of THE INVISIBLE AGENT as soon as I heard the plot.
Quint has chosen spellcheck... here's why... by BitterMan23	Jun 14th, 2007 10:57:56 AM
oh wait, he didn't.
Take that Mind Freak! by Admiral Kirk	Jun 14th, 2007 11:03:19 AM
Enough with the metaphisical discussion of mindfreak already- I saw his fake prosthetic belley that he pulled pins out of and I saw him wobble while levitating. Clearly people are paid to act surprised on camera and it's all staged bullshit with wire removal. They don't even have a disclaimer that says it's filmed in front of a live audience-
OOps! by micturatingbenjamin	Jun 14th, 2007 11:16:54 AM
Yeah, I got confused about LOEG...The guy ACTS like a criminal...I haven't read it in a while. And Mind Freak can fuck right off, and take his z-level show biz ass off the planet. We already have one 'extreme' non bullshit pair of magicians. They're not fucking Hot Topic employees with a couple grand to spend on effects...they're actually showmen. I won't deign to mention their names. Sorry about the mistake...I remember something about him being a damned criminal though...that he was like a thief or something.
Foywonder by Fartgod The IRSTard	Jun 14th, 2007 11:36:21 AM
You are fat, ugly, and an idiot. The only people on your site are Trannies with STDs . Leave Goyer alone. You suck.
"Have you ever seen a shirt make a telephone call?" by tonagan	Jun 14th, 2007 11:50:09 AM
Ed Begley Jr.'s greatest performance.
Goyer wrote one of my all-time favourite cheesy lines by DirkD13"	Jun 14th, 2007 11:51:34 AM
In Blade 2: "You're about one cunthair away from hillbilly heaven!" Cracks me up every time.
Some motherfuckers always tryin' to ice-skate uphill. by pip1345	Jun 14th, 2007 12:31:31 PM
I am, in this instance, referring to David Goyer.
Hey this sounds like an idea that by skimn	Jun 14th, 2007 12:46:06 PM
Stephen Sommers can drive right down to the ground...
DirkD13, me too, ''We know what you are Blade by Darkcityuk	Jun 14th, 2007 12:47:31 PM
Your a stone cold killer'' ''And your SICK AS FUCK''
Sequel or Remake? by JamieCOTC95	Jun 14th, 2007 12:51:27 PM
I suppose you could call this a sequel as it is a remake of a sequel. So which one is it? Maybe it's both. Invisible Agent, 1942: "The Invisible Man's grandson uses his secret formula to spy on Nazi Germany in this comedy-thriller." Ahhhh, it's not a remake. It's original and fresh as this go around it's the Invisible Man's nephew and there's no Peter Lorre. Got it.
The Invisible Agent by Boromir187	Jun 14th, 2007 12:53:47 PM
I like Goyer and most of the film's he has worked on have turned out well, but he's got to know that this has already been done before. So pretty much, his remake that is really a "sequel" is actually a remake of a film he doesn't seem to be aware of. At least I hope he isn't aware of it, as he's really going to look like an ass if he's trying to pass off his take on the material as an original idea. That aside, I'm all for a remake of "The Invisible Agent" and I think Goyer can do well with such material. I just think it's hilarious that it seems that no site other than Dread Central caught on to the fact that this film was already made 65 years ago.
Sam Neill As A Crazed Government Agent? I'm In! by uss cygnus	Jun 14th, 2007 12:54:01 PM
"Nick...."
Seems to me by hktelemacher	Jun 14th, 2007 01:35:52 PM
that Goyer had very little to do with Batman Begins once Nolan really sank his teeth in. It's too bad that Goyer got his start as a writer because I really loved his visuals on BLADE TRINITY, he's got a good eye, it's just too bad he had that awful script to work with.
WWII Again??? by _Maltheus_	Jun 14th, 2007 04:27:20 PM
The true horror of WWII wasn't the millions of innocent people that died, it's the millions of movies/video games since that have been completely unable to find another milieu for their story telling. I just assumed that Goyer was another baby-boomer fawning over the "greatest generation" till I looked him up and saw that he was born in 65. Geez, all these superhereos we had lined up against the Nazis and we still couldn't take Hitler out. Yeah, that makes sense.
When r they going remake The Incredible Shrinking Man? by Orionsangels	Jun 14th, 2007 04:52:02 PM
One of the great scifi classics. The story and message still holds up today. Instead lets remake the Invisible Man for the billionth time.
Goyer is a chump by MrJJonz	Jun 14th, 2007 05:14:11 PM
Bordering on uberchump. Fucked up Blade, fucked up Batman (yes it was overrated . . .just because it was polar opposite from Schumachers version does not make it a good film . . hell, Batman still kills). Goyer should really stick to Hasselhoff standard of superhero films.
re: anchorite by _Maltheus_	Jun 14th, 2007 05:20:04 PM
Lighten up Francis. It was a joke. Did you laugh when Paulie Walnuts said he wanted to give 2007 back to the Indians? Of course you did. Are you the type who gets offended over South Park? Didn't think so. Hell WWII was over 50 years ago and we no longer even have the "too soon" rule anymore. Someone get stabbed in the heart with a stingray and people are joking about it the next day. If you can't make fun of this world we live in, then I imagine that you'll never find a moment's peace in it.
Pendy16 by timmerlimmer	Jun 14th, 2007 05:54:25 PM
Great clip! Ed Begley Jr in calssic form and the guy who played Kramer in the Seinfeld "pilot" that George and Jerry wrote playing checkers. Where is the original sketch from? Was it on a '70s TV show?
Failing Upwards by Neo Zeed	Jun 14th, 2007 06:01:14 PM
Didn't Goyer's last movie get bad reviews? Blade 3 was pretty bad too. Now he's directing another flick. Are we having a shortage of directors or what?
Yeah, Anchorite by FentonCrisp	Jun 14th, 2007 06:09:19 PM
It was a throwaway joke whose target was the video games based on WWII, not the subjects of WWII themselves. One of those jokes aimed at the teller, since it's an inherently petty complaint.
But _Maltheus_ Is Right, Though by FentonCrisp	Jun 14th, 2007 06:13:16 PM
The movie/video game thing is the real tragedy.
May be invisible but just follow the smell by thegreatwhatzit	Jun 14th, 2007 08:02:30 PM
Have a bad feeling about this. The (1933) INVISIBLE MAN is the most underrated of the Universal horrors, quite superior to the likes of the studio's DRACULA and WOLFMAN franchises. It's extremely violent (pre-Hays Office?) and the comedy is ultra-dark; Claude Rains communicates his presence with a wicked panache. The movie is completely unencumbered by age, it still kicks ass (ageless script). Each of the sequels suck and the modern incarnations are pathetic. I'd like to see a modern "retelling" directed by Neil Marshall. But, Jesus, TheFoywonder is right on the money. This thing approximates the creaky INVISIBLE AGENT. Since nobody gives a shit about the screenplay, why not append some dialogue from ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET THE INVISIBLE MAN?: Lou: "My brother disappeared." Shrink: "Into thin air?" Lou: "No, into a manhole." There ya go, simply add a hack director (Charlie Band/Uwe Boll/Eli Roth) and you've got yourself another HOLLOW MAN. Is it true that Boll is actually making a sequel to the megaflop, ALONE IN THE DARK? Say it ain't so.
Hahahah the missing I has been found! by BitterMan23	Jun 14th, 2007 11:09:50 PM
yay
The Ed Begley Jr. sketch by TimBenzedrine	Jun 15th, 2007 11:43:16 AM
In case no one has identified it yet, is from the Kentucky Fried Movie-type film, "Amazon Women on the Moon", made back in the early eighties.

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