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First here, too!
by Droogie Alex
Jun 13th, 2007
01:10:03 AM
Ya
Raise the Dead!
by Zardoz
Jun 13th, 2007
01:48:49 AM
Yeah, I'm digging that book, too! Cool art, an interesting story and an intriguing mystery and lots of zombies doing zombie things! Oh, and I liked #42 of Invincible. (which is the best superhero comic book around! Really!) I wasn't bored by the re-cap or the exposition and the new stuff was pretty big. (especially the last page) Buffy season 8 is really good, but the dialogue just isn't the same on the page as it is when delivered by the actors. (minor quibble) But it's a great story and it continues the series perfectly. Also recommended: Iredeemable Ant-Man. It's Kirkman's other great book. (and yeah, after the last disappointing TPB, I don't think I'll be buying Walking Dead anymore) Funny, dramatic, complicated characters, "real" situations and very cool art. It really flips your expectations about what a comic book "hero" should be. And the new Brave and The Bold series is pretty nice, also. Perez's art has never been better, the stories are fun and funny, and it has all your fav superheroes. Pick them all up, if you get a chance...
turd
by zaggnutt
Jun 13th, 2007
02:27:48 AM
third?
Jinxo....(Black Adam)
by ThePerv
Jun 13th, 2007
04:32:47 AM
For a comic book geek like yourself Im suprised you didnt catch the reference to Black Adam in getting his powers back. Juat look at the last lines he says to Mary Marvel: "Tell your brother that im "sorry"." Obviously Marvel decided to change the password to a word that Adam would never say in his life....fill in the blanks as to when he figured it out.
...
by ThePerv
Jun 13th, 2007
04:34:25 AM
ie. the word was "sorry".
Ahhh...
by Jinxo
Jun 13th, 2007
04:58:35 AM
That is a good catch that I did miss. Doesn't make up for tossing aside that whole plot thread... or explain why Adam is only moderately killy instead of super killy... or explain how he got to reset the password back to Shazam... But "Sorry" was a good joke and I did miss it. And, seriously, Captain Marvel... sorry? You changed it to SORRY???? Dude, you gotta learn how to properly pick an unguessable password. Hitleriffic. There's a word he's not gonna guess. Or pooper. Anything but the one word he will figure you'd pick. Fool! Better unguessable words, anyone?
The All New Atom
by LeckoManiac
Jun 13th, 2007
05:50:07 AM
Is my absolute favorite title on the stands right now. It is consistently fun, bizarre, and entertaining.
other unguessable words
by rock-me Amodeo
Jun 13th, 2007
06:19:54 AM
lickproof and owl-flavored come to mind...
Iron Man
by Midnightxpress
Jun 13th, 2007
06:25:39 AM
...what exactly has IM done to no longer be considered a hero, save for arguing with Capt and Spidey...?
That's my cue...
by BizarroJerry
Jun 13th, 2007
06:42:49 AM
You folks should be reading G.I. Joe: America's Elite. Yes, I'm gonna say it in every @$$hole talkback, so get used to it.
No Dark Tower #4 Review?
by Abin Sur
Jun 13th, 2007
06:55:29 AM
Or did I miss it?
Ahhhhh Buffy.
by mrtwig48
Jun 13th, 2007
06:58:40 AM
Now only if DC or somebody would make a Veronica Mars comic.
Archie's a racist bastard....
by Bootskin
Jun 13th, 2007
07:12:24 AM
Notice he's gesturing toward his customer of color when he says "We'll serve anybody!" Death to Archie and his racist friends!
Jinxo
by RenoNevada2000
Jun 13th, 2007
07:56:36 AM
Nice MST3K reference...
Does anyone else not like John Romita Jr.?
by rev_skarekroe
Jun 13th, 2007
08:06:09 AM
It's not just me is it?
Relieved by the WORLD WAR HULK review...
by stones_throw
Jun 13th, 2007
08:40:28 AM
I wasn't going to pick it up, but now I might reconsider. However, there's a few underlying issues that may spoil my enjoyment. The "Illuminati" shot Hulk into space then tried to blow him up? (I haven't been reading Planet Hulk.) That's just too much for this fan. Secondly, Marvel's last few events have shown how they don't really get comic books by acknowledging the unsaid conceits of the genre like lack of government interference, property damage and Hulk as a killer. It's worrying that they're taking steps towards Hulk as a full-blown villain despite over 400 issues where he's been the hero and protagonist.

Otherwise, despite being a Dan Slott fan I haven't been grabbed by THE INITIATIVE - it lacks a strong overall plotline and interesting characters. It's strange how before the cancellation of THE THING all Slott's Marvel work was pure gold, but since then SHE-HULK has faltered and I've been unimpressed by his new title. Still, after the FCBD issue I'm looking forward to the possibility of him working on Spider-Man.

Yeah, DevilCat...
by stones_throw
Jun 13th, 2007
08:43:05 AM
I just try to pretend those "Tony" and "Reed"s don't exist.
Other fucked up stuff Iron Man did:
by SleazyG.
Jun 13th, 2007
08:54:15 AM
Kill his best friend, Happy Hogan. Send The Hulk (who has never been directly tied to a single dead body) into space even though IM has killed a few hundred people at last count. Hunted and imprisoned his friends. Tony is now officially a complete douche, and despite the fact his being in charge of SHIELD is a decent concept I dropped his book because it, and the character, have been so tarnished at this point that they're beyond redemption for me.
You're not alone, rev_skarekroe.
by SleazyG.
Jun 13th, 2007
08:54:58 AM
I've long thought he was overrated.
Why would you call Bendis "this comic gen
by Borgnine JR
Jun 13th, 2007
08:56:00 AM
eration's Stan Lee"? Bendis isn't fit to sharpen Stan Lee's pencil. (Take that any way you want it.)
Jinxo
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
09:20:39 AM
If only Countdown had your review's energy and fun..
This generation's stan lee?
by tomorrowlight
Jun 13th, 2007
09:24:46 AM
lets see how bendis himself would discuss this in the space of one of his comic books: "So, brian. The new stan huh?" "yeah" "Wow" "I know" "I mean, seriously, wow" "I know" "thats like, huge man" "Too huge man." "wow" repeat for the next 3 hrs...
SleazyG, Tony Stark killed Happy Hogan??
by MisterE
Jun 13th, 2007
09:45:17 AM
When did this happen?
Boys and Walking Dead
by SavageDragoner
Jun 13th, 2007
09:51:15 AM
The Boys is fantastic. Been there since issue 1 and have no complaints. I'm just amazed that Ennis constantly finds new depths of depravity to sink to. But what is with the constant Walking Dead hate? I just don't get it. The zombies aren't the plot, they're the backdrop. In an ongoing series like this you just can't have wall-to-wall action all the time, it just gets too shallow. After 40-some issue by now, don't you care at all about the characters? Can't you have an issue or two where you focus on them and what they do when they're not worried about getting eaten alive? The great thing about Walking Dead is that, because it never ends, we get a chance to really explore what would happen to the rest of the world, both socially and psychologically: i.e. the other town under the rule of a depot where zombies are used as sport and Rick lost the rest of his hand. That sort of stuff is fascinating to me, especially if they end up having to defend the prison not only from the zombies from but from their new 'neighbors' as well. All these other zombie comics that come out just look so tripey in comparison.
Hey Rock-Me-Amodeo
by TheContinentalOp
Jun 13th, 2007
09:51:15 AM
I know who the Black Queen used to be. Remember after No Man's Land, when 'Tec was all awesome and monochromatic? Bruce Wayne had a bodyguard (for insurance purposes, I believe) who eventually discovered that he was Batman and helped him fight crime. Then she fell in love with him and went to jail as an accomplice during the Bruce Wayne: Murderer? storyline. After she got out, Bruce set her up with a job at Checkmate, and she quickly rose through the ranks to become the Black Queen. Then she became a cyborg. Long story.
Great reviews all around, @$$holes!
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
09:54:46 AM
Much great reading (that, and I'm happy much of what I read was worthy of review). I think I'm gonna have to pick up Banana Man and All-New Atom now, too..

So who else read 'Tec!? Was that not a good read? Was anyone else faked out into thinking it was Riddler at the very end for a moment?

Buffy was good, but I think NoD's monologue at the beginning was overly Whedon-speaky to make sense (not that it was really Joss' fault - he never wrote that character, he only did OMWF in S6). And also, Joss is writing issue #5 also as a one-shot, then BKV picks up the next arc.
Black Queen
by rock-me Amodeo
Jun 13th, 2007
10:03:06 AM
I also got a heads up from someone who told me to pick up Rucka's run of Detective. I should have thought of that (but I didn't!), because Rucka is writing Checkmate; he obviously has a fondness for the character. Thanks!
Technicality, ContinentalOp..
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
10:05:54 AM
Sasha Bordeaux was a Knight when she became a cyborg OMAC. Then she was promoted to Black Queen.
Savage Dragoner...
by Ambush Bug
Jun 13th, 2007
10:58:22 AM
Did you READ the RAISE THE DEAD review or is it just too hard for you to wrap your mind around the concept that MAYBE there is more than one good zombie comic out there? I gave props to WALKING DEAD in the review, but said that while one chooses to focus on the people, RAISE THE DEAD focuses on some zombie action. I don't see where that translates as "hate towards WALKING DEAD." You can like two differing things. It's allowed, you know. Get over the persecution complex, bunky, and expand those monochrome beliefs.
Happy Hogan
by Ye Not Guilty
Jun 13th, 2007
11:39:28 AM
From Wikipedia: "At the end of Invincible Iron Man vol. 4 #14, Hogan apparently dies; the issue leaves it ambiguous whether Hogan died naturally or whether it was because Tony Stark digitally interfaced with and shut down Hogan's life support at Pepper's urging." Basically, Tony Stark is now becoming another Victor Von Doom or Magneto.
Turtle.....SMASH!
by GreatA'Tuin
Jun 13th, 2007
12:12:46 PM
I would like to point out that I am an unabashed hypocrite. That just needs to be stated.

Bug...don't tease me. Seriously. I mean it. You could really break my heart if you're lying to me about HULK. I would rather you gave me the wettest, sloppiest, most mind-numbing blow job ever and then chopped my garbage off at the nuts than lie to me about this. I NEED this. I NEED for Hulk to come down from on high and proceed to kick the rancid hobo ass shit out of ALL the Illuminati, their sycopahnts, their non-combatant detractors, their combatant detractors (for not winning), midgets, orphans, the elderly, and of course the Dutch. I need him to shout and break the world. I need him to bite into Iron Man like a drunken frat fucker tears into a beer can. I need Black Bolts head shoved so far up his own ass that if he twitches then his little head-fork thing will stroke his prostate. I need him to use Reed as a condom while he and She-Hulk (with another part of Reed used as a strap-on) go double anal on Doc Strange.

(BTW There's another unguessable word for you Jinx...double anal)

I NEED this. Please don't tease me.

Tegujai Batir...HUH?
by Ambush Bug
Jun 13th, 2007
12:14:38 PM
So you call one group ignorant for not liking your little sci fi movie and make a broad generalization based on one reviewer's preference and then end it by calling us racists? Man, the density of some people.
By the way, I liked the Matrix, you douchebag. Understand?
I ain't teasin, Turtle
by Ambush Bug
Jun 13th, 2007
12:20:34 PM
I think you'll like what Hulk does with Tony and Black Bolt in this issue.

That said, your image of using Reed Richards as a condom is something that will take a long time to get out of my head.
I was proud of that one.
by GreatA'Tuin
Jun 13th, 2007
12:26:25 PM
Dude, the BEST part was a naked She-Hulk using Reeds face as an "Intruder".

I am a sick and fucking twisted chelonian.

i'm in awe...
by blackthought
Jun 13th, 2007
12:38:16 PM
of something.
Mark Grunwald...
by steverodgers
Jun 13th, 2007
12:38:31 PM
penned my favorite captain america moment. Captain America’s body is breaking down because of the super soldier serum - so he has to wear armor. this armor lets him fly. he saves this little boy from harm. the boys says "will i be oaky?" steve says "it will be okay, i can fly now" then he jets off into the atmosphere. So wonderfully cheesy and awesome. bendis isnt fit to stroke stans Underwood.
to Tegujai Batir - I like women...
by rock-me Amodeo
Jun 13th, 2007
12:39:41 PM
...I don't UNDERSTAND them, but I do like them (one in particular). So that kinds blows your hypothesis out of the water. I also liked the Matrix, and I agree with Bug: go pour yourself a vinegar and water and relax a little.
Niceiza's New Warriors did deserve respect
by Tacom
Jun 13th, 2007
12:41:30 PM
I agree the New Warriors were great in the early 90's when Fabian Niceiza wrote them and first Mark Bagley and then Darrick Robertson's drew it. They were as good as Wolfman/Perez' Teen Titans. The only thing they lacked was a strong, original supervillain like the Titans had with Deathstroke the Terminator. Sure the Sphinx was tough but he was Nova's enemy first. They never had a great arch-enemy like a great team should. What happened to them and Speedball in the CIVIL WAR was bullshit.
Bring on Everville
by HeWhoCannotBeNamed
Jun 13th, 2007
01:06:14 PM
Not a chance I assume. And where's that third and final book of the art?
Or how about Imaijica?
by HeWhoCannotBeNamed
Jun 13th, 2007
01:08:45 PM
I'd love to see that adapted. Properly.
BizzaroJerry
by HeWhoCannotBeNamed
Jun 13th, 2007
01:10:24 PM
I read it and it's fucking tight. I like the Storm Shadow ongoing too. Who am I kidding, I read anything G.I. Joe related.
BizarroJerry
by HeWhoCannotBeNamed
Jun 13th, 2007
01:11:14 PM
not BizzaroJerry. Sheesh.
So I say again..
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
01:26:04 PM
'Tec anyone? Come worship with me in the cult of Dini!
Yeah, Thal, but....Hulk SMASH...
by GreatA'Tuin
Jun 13th, 2007
01:33:22 PM
Like, really SMASH. For reals and stuff.
Dini...
by blindambition238
Jun 13th, 2007
01:36:27 PM
Why dont they just hire him to write the next Batman movies, hell direct too. His Batman is definatly the definitive version for me aas hes able to strike a balance between all of his heroic and dark qualities that make him famous, without leaning into asshole/ goddamn batman. Not to mention hes done the best job of making Batman believable as the world's greatest detective.
So, I just read Civil War..and Iron Man is a bastard
by Homer Sexual
Jun 13th, 2007
02:06:53 PM
BFD, right? Well, I wanted some vacation reading and succumbed to curiosity. Must say that in and of itself, it was an interesting read. The problem is the terribly reprehensible behavior of the "heroes." I don't know how anyone can stand Iron Man at this point, he's such a total prick. Reed Richards? Well,I have actually never known how anyone could stand his ass, so when he acts like a stupid a-hole, no surprise. So many tarnished characters, I admit that I have dropped some comics I used to read since their protagonists were on Iron Man's side. The dumbest part of it was having Tigra, a cop in current continuity I think, be a "spy" in Cap's camp. What-ever. I see why many people like CW, though. If I hadn't been reading comics for years, I would have liked it a lot better.
Tony Stark + Reed Richards = douschebags
by mattb127
Jun 13th, 2007
02:07:45 PM
What a couple of smug suckers. They need their smarty pants smashed. Big time. I don't care what their reasons are. They're a couple of dudes who'd stab their friends in the back for the big picture. Maybe that's noble, maybe it isn't. But it DEFINITELY deserves an ass-kicking of galactic proportions. I'll say one thing--Marvel had better not puss out and just have Hulk beat some dudes up. Hulk was at war on a planet where everyone died. It's not enough for him to beat some guys up. It would be completley out of character for him NOT to kill Richards, Stark, Strange, and Black Bolt. If he just beats them up, it's lame. They must die. DIE!!!!
I like Walking Dead
by samsquanch
Jun 13th, 2007
02:09:13 PM
best zobie comic evar.
FINALLY!
by MonkeyAngst
Jun 13th, 2007
02:22:49 PM
Finally, someone else gets that Dan Slott is the reincarnation of Mark Gruenwald! He's a guy who loves the obscure depths of the Marvel Universe -- its loser characters, its thrown-away concepts, the minutae of geekdom that speaks to my heart. Long live Gru!
Moratorium On "Don't Like It Cuz You Don't Get It"
by Buzz Maverik
Jun 13th, 2007
02:27:12 PM
One of the most childish, geekiest responses you'll see here, along the lines of "Yer just jealous".

I mean, you don't like DORA THE EXPLORER do you? But I'm pretty sure you get it.

Poor Hulk was miserable on that planet
by Bong
Jun 13th, 2007
02:58:23 PM
Ate his flesh...poor guy
World War Hulk: I don't want to spoil it...
by Ambush Bug
Jun 13th, 2007
03:16:39 PM
But basically, the Illuminati are caught with their pants down and all of them are scrambling throughout the issue. The conversation between Dr. Strange and Iron Man is priceless. Both are like, "OK, we've been fighting and are on opposite sides here, but holy shit (buttholey shit! A new word!), we are super fucked now." It's a really good read and treats all of the characters the way we all would think they would react. She-Hulk's scene is pretty damn sweet too. As is Spidey's.
buttholey shit...
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
03:28:07 PM
..that should've been Black Adam's secret word.
Gumbel-scented
by rock-me Amodeo
Jun 13th, 2007
03:38:13 PM
...another word Black Adam would not have guessed...
More ideas..
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
03:56:17 PM
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!
< BR> Yo momma

niffler

Batman
no wait..
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
03:57:56 PM
on that last one it should be "na na na na na na na na na na na na na Batman!" That way ordinary speech won't do it.
Buffy coming out in a trade?
by Z 008
Jun 13th, 2007
04:25:22 PM
I just started watching the show via DVD's and don't want to be spoiled. So will this be a trade or do I have to use pure willpower? Also WWH was great, "I wanna hear you SCREAM!!"
Gru!
by steverodgers
Jun 13th, 2007
04:37:37 PM
was the best! Long live Flag Smasher, D-Man, and Dan Slott too.
With a mighty yell...
by Jinxo
Jun 13th, 2007
04:43:54 PM
... Black Adam's voice booms out his magic phrase, "Oprah give me the power!" and transforms! Then before he joins battle he spends several minutes trying to convince bystanders he is not actually powered by nor does he like Oprah. "But you just shouted out..." "Yeah, I know but that... it was just a goof." "But you got powered by it." "Right but... I'm being kind of magically punked." "Ashton Kutcher gave you your powers?" "No!" "Shouldn't you yell Punked then? Or Demi? Or..." "Screw this shit. Where's Mary Marvel? You want some power, because I am out."
I'm gettin' World War Hulk now....
by Psynapse
Jun 13th, 2007
05:33:48 PM
and I had NO intention of doing so before that review. I have no higher compliment to give @$$holes.....
I know!
by GreatA'Tuin
Jun 13th, 2007
05:44:24 PM
Turtlemittens! Adam would NEVER guess that.
actually....
by sonnyhooper
Jun 13th, 2007
05:58:30 PM
....it should probally be "nananananananana...dini"

or better yet "dinidinidinidinidinidini...ba tman"

yeah, i liked that issue so much it probally melted my brain, so what? :P

Stark definitely killed Happy Hogan.
by SleazyG.
Jun 13th, 2007
06:03:46 PM
And to make matters worse, who convinced him to do it? SUSAN FUCKING STORM. WHO WASN'T EVEN ON TONY'S SIDE IN CIVIL WAR. Sue Fucking Storm, who would do anything to protect her family, tells a guy to Old Yeller his best friend. And not just "a guy", but the single guy most likely to be able to come up with a technological cure for Happy. Like, oh, say, something linked to the FUCKING EXTREMIS NANITES RUNNING AROUND IN HIS OWN FUCKING BODY.

And then people wonder why so many of us found CIVIL WAR to be crass, jaded, and completely fucking moronic. It's not just that everybody acts out of character; it's that there are so many opportunities for tension and character and plot development possible by staying IN character. What a completely fuckled shitfest that whole thing turned out to be.

Stark definitely killed Happy Hogan.
by SleazyG.
Jun 13th, 2007
06:03:53 PM
And to make matters worse, who convinced him to do it? SUSAN FUCKING STORM. WHO WASN'T EVEN ON TONY'S SIDE IN CIVIL WAR. Sue Fucking Storm, who would do anything to protect her family, tells a guy to Old Yeller his best friend. And not just "a guy", but the single guy most likely to be able to come up with a technological cure for Happy. Like, oh, say, something linked to the FUCKING EXTREMIS NANITES RUNNING AROUND IN HIS OWN FUCKING BODY.

And then people wonder why so many of us found CIVIL WAR to be crass, jaded, and completely fucking moronic. It's not just that everybody acts out of character; it's that there are so many opportunities for tension and character and plot development possible by staying IN character. What a completely fuckled shitfest that whole thing turned out to be.

HULK like to thanks academy for honor...
by JasonEdwards80
Jun 13th, 2007
07:31:49 PM
HULK thanks Puny Humans for Buying book. Help support HULK fight anger problems, support UNICEF... RWARGGGGHHH !!!
Anyone read New Avengers #31?
by waggy
Jun 13th, 2007
07:39:39 PM
I didn't read the book, but I flipped to the last page to see what all marvel's hype was about. Oh. My. God. I don't want to spoil it (every other comic site on the net will do that tomorrow) but it may be the single greatest thing Bendis has done since he started at Marvel.
sonnyhooper
by Thalya
Jun 13th, 2007
08:31:43 PM
Brilliant!

But my question is, did you also get faked out at the end, thinking it was Riddler? Wayda go Don Kramer for that wonderful artwork!
Walking Dead and more...
by stones_throw
Jun 14th, 2007
06:22:30 AM
IMO, Kirkman made a HUGE mistake in having the characters find the prison after only twelve issues. I even read that before it became a success he planned on having them move in after the first arc. If you think of a memorable moment it's either in the first twelve issues or the last few when they're kidnapped by the Governor. TWD's handicap is how cushy the lives of most of the characters are compared to other examples of the genre - they've got electricity and can watch TV and so he's already having to contrive reasons to get the characters on the road again, like them leaving to find the National Guard store in the last issue. That prison needs to get exploded ASAP.

I dropped Detective with the last issue. Dini wrote some enjoyable comics but too many were sub-standard and the uber-crap fish-head killer issue was one too far. Although it seems every time I make up my mind to stop buying it he comes back with a winner, so I'm tempted to try the latest issue.

Btw...
by stones_throw
Jun 14th, 2007
06:23:54 AM
...is the chicken's resemblance to Harry Knowles on that Archie cover intentional or purely serendipitious?
Augh...stones_throw
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
08:22:43 AM
The fish-head killer issue was a fill-in writer! That wasn't Dini! That was Royal McGraw! Also, that two-parter Die Hard-like one was Stuart Moore, and McGraw also did the Doctor Phosphorous one-shot, so take it for what it is. Dini's stuff has been all gold, save maybe the Poison Ivy issue.
Nah...
by stones_throw
Jun 14th, 2007
09:52:59 AM
I meant the one where Bruce Wayne's friend gets killed on the boat. That one sucked.
*gasps*
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
10:24:38 AM
Dude, Dini's gonna pull something off and then you're gonna look back on that issue, smack your forehead and go "gah! Why didn't I _see_ that? It was right in front of me!" And by 'that', I mean Riddler's gone bad again, and it all dates to that one issue where, oh, hey, incidentally he got conked on the head again, and he probably remembers Bats' secret ID too.
That Archie cover
by BizarroJerry
Jun 14th, 2007
10:48:13 AM
At the very top, it almost looks like Archie's saying "cluck me". Those writers were secretly sneaking offensive and dirty humor in those comics, I swear...
Tony Stark
by Bluejack
Jun 14th, 2007
10:48:33 AM
Just as Vader's redemption was total bullshit (he killed dozens of children in cold blood and he gets to be clean in the white and brown robes at the end of Jedi), any redemption of Tony Stark at this point will be bogus. As for Happy, Tony made a difficult decision ala "Million Dollar Baby." I think he would have tried harder as well, given how he uses technology to solve all of his problems. I used to love Ironman, and now he is a total douchebag. I feel crappy inside reading his book. Hopefully the return of Thor and Nick Fury will give us a new moral compass for the Marvel Universe. It's uncomfortable reading there at this point.
speaking of secret dirty jokes...
by BizarroJerry
Jun 14th, 2007
10:53:09 AM
After mentioning that possible Archie joke, as resident "G.I. Joe comics guy", I was reminded of the cover seen here: http://tinyurl.com/22wsms You can quite clearly see on this cover that Scarlett is blowing Snake-Eyes...
I AM A DICK **HUGE SPOILER WARNING**
by Psynapse
Jun 14th, 2007
11:54:11 AM
It's the Skrulls. They invaded earth secretly and have a shitload of sleeper agents seeded across the planet manipulating EVERYTHING including Civil War. The illimunati were captured by the skrulls at the end of the Kree-Skrull War and supplied them with genetic information (and possibly a sleeper agent WITHIN The Illuminati) and it's been..skrulls all along.
I sense hints of Team America: World Police..
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
12:07:51 PM
thalya.....
by sonnyhooper
Jun 14th, 2007
12:12:31 PM
.....my mind didn't go to the riddler for some reason. either because i keep k=thinking of him as "going strait".....or......it was because the whole time i was just saying to myself "please don't be fucking hush! please don't be fucking hush! please don't be fucking hush!"

either way the riddler didn't enter my mind, but now that you mentioned it he probally should have. also love how all of dinis issues are "stand alone" done in one issues but they all kind of tie together with returning characters.

Bye-Bye Fantastic Four 2 Movie Review
by The Partyslammer
Jun 14th, 2007
12:22:56 PM
Looks like AICN took down all references to the early FF2 review after the writer got exposed, fired from his job as a projectionist due to pressure from Fox. Check this out:

LOS ANGELES, California (Hollywood Reporter) -- A projectionist at a Memphis, Tennessee, theater chain has lost his job after writing an unauthorized early review of "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" for the Web site Ain't It Cool News.

Jesse Morrison, the projectionist, claims that the film's distributor, 20th Century Fox, was behind the decision by Malco Theatres Inc. to suspend him for an undetermined period. The studio denied the charge.

While studios and filmmakers have endured early reviews of their movies, both negative and positive, on Web sites since the early days of the Internet, the incident might mark the first time someone working in the entertainment industry has lost a job for voicing an early opinion online.

On Saturday, http://www.AintItCool.com posted a negative review by Morrison (writing under his online moniker Memflix) under the headline "Memflix crushes all hope for 'Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.' "

A 29-year-old film, video and journalism major at the University of Memphis, Morrison worked for $7 an hour at the Ridgeway Four, next door to Malco's home office. He picked up further compensation by readying movie prints for exhibitor and press screenings, which allowed him during the past year to write reviews of such movies as "Disturbia," "Vacancy" and "Spider-Man 3" for Ain't It Cool. He also wrote reviews for Malco's movie blog and a circular distributed at the theater.

On Monday, two days after his "Silver Surfer" pan appeared, Morrison was called into a meeting with Malco senior VP Jimmy Tashie and, according to Morrison, was "suspended until further notice," with the suggestion that he would not be asked to return.

Morrison said Tashie pointed out that "20th Century Fox called them that morning and threatened to take away the press and trade screenings because of this whole thing. They were upset."

Asked if Fox had any role in the suspension, Tashie said: "Absolutely none." The executive said his company received a call from Fox that said "there's somebody there working for (Malco) who is writing reviews in advance. That's all they said. No one asked us to do anything. We have been in business 95 years, and this is the first time anything like this happened. And this boy knew what he was doing was the wrong thing. ... He was in a position of trust and he violated that trust."

Drew McWeeney, known as "Moriarty" on the Ain't It Cool site, picked up Morrison's cause. Amid two positive reviews for the new movie, he championed Morrison's right to free speech and wrote: "He's written many reviews for us before, but when he wrote one for 'Fantastic Four,' Fox went into hypersensitive overdrive. They tracked him down and had him fired, threatening to pull their business from the entire chain over that review."

Sources inside Fox denied the studio's involvement, saying that the disciplinary action was beyond their reach and was the theater chain's decision. Some entertainment companies, including film productions, do ask workers to sign confidentiality agreements, agreeing not to disclose information. Morrison said he had never been asked to sign such an agreement, though he would have if asked.

"If they had sat me down and told me that this has caused such a stink and that we would like you to sign some waiver, I probably would have signed it," Morrison said. "In my opinion, they used strong-arm tactics. I don't regret going on my Web site or Ain't It Cool at all. I just wish it hadn't come to this, but I don't really believe I did anything wrong."

Tashie said: "In the future, anybody in that position will sign something." A number of Ain't It Cool readers have rallied to Morrison's cause, some even offering him jobs like a cameraman gig in Mexico. Morrison said he is weighing his options. "I'm hoping to get a job as a professional movie reviewer, but I don't know what's going to happen with that. I guess you could say I'm at some kind of crossroads right now."

sonny..
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
12:37:38 PM
It was the cane that did it for me, so I was still wigged when I looked over at the right-hand page at that large panel and thought "wait, that's not quite Riddler....................... oh! oh oh oh!!!" That moment with Commissioner Gordon and then that shooting at the end echoed a certain Alan Moore story too.
Psy...
by Ambush Bug
Jun 14th, 2007
01:01:58 PM
That's been my theory all along. Ever since that first issue of ILLUMINATI. Bendis has written himself an out with this whole CIVIL WAR business. Reed and Stark are Skrulls. Possibly Professor X too. Look at the last panel of ILUMINATI issue one. It is a close up of Prof X's eye that has an outline that resembles the outlined irises of teh Skrulls. The final scene in NEW AVENGERS seals it. Hell, at this point, even Hawkeye, Scarlett Witch, and even Captain America could be Skrulls too. Mark my words, this is how Bendis is going to try to fix it all. In some ways it's pleasing that MAYBE this means that a return to the heroic heroes of Marvel are coming. On the other hand, it's kind of shitty writing to retro in Skrulls to make up for all of your mistakes.
Last chance, Batir...
by Ambush Bug
Jun 14th, 2007
01:16:15 PM
Stay on topic about comics or you will be banned once again. Try to do something different for a change and have a decent conversation about comics instead of ripping on folks. It's how the rest of the world makes friends. Firgured I'd spell it out for you since you obviously are inept at things like that.
Bug....**More Spoilers***
by Psynapse
Jun 14th, 2007
01:34:08 PM
No Cap and Tony will turn out to be the real thing, just that they were manipulated by Skrulls placed 'near' them. For example, I bet it was a skrull disguised as Sue Storm that convinced Tony to ice Happy. That way Bendis gets to keep from being a liar and has his out.
About that Atom character...
by loodabagel
Jun 14th, 2007
02:26:06 PM
Is he new reader friendly? Because my store just started getting it, and I don't want to wading neck deep in continuity.
looda RE:The New Atom
by Ambush Bug
Jun 14th, 2007
02:48:20 PM
Yeah, he's pretty new reader friendly. This 12th issue especially is a good jumping on point. He's an all new character and there isn't much by way of continuity for the character yet. He's just an Asian-American physics teacher who took over for Ray Palmer (The last Atom) at Ivy Town University. I know very little about Ray Palmer save what happened to his wife in recent years and I'm able to follow it just fine.
SPOILER--note to Psynapse--SPOILER
by Homer Sexual
Jun 14th, 2007
04:01:10 PM
So, I also had NO intent to buy WWH until here. Haven't read it yet. BUT my LCS told me yesterday that the original title of The Initiative was Skrullocaust. And that I would soon stop hating Iron Man.

Of course, I am torn by this info. It will excuse the behavior of the biggest dicks in CW, but not the rest. And it will render everything in Marvel for the last many moons moot. I will be glad not to hate Stark anymore, but this hackneyed out--SKRULLS?--is just so lame, also unimaginative, also the opposite of what Marvel purports to be doing with its "vision."

Homer...SPOILER
by Ambush Bug
Jun 14th, 2007
04:18:05 PM
Yeah, using the Skrulls in this way is the comic book equivalent of the Bobby Ewing "It was all a dream" shower sequence from DALLAS (man, am I dating myself with that reference). As much as I hate the way marvel is going these days, this seems to be the only way to make things right. If the Skrull conspiracy is going to be the excuse for Marvel, this is Spidey's ticket out of his predicament as well. I don't think he's a Skrull, but I think he could use the old "That was a Skrull who unmased on national TV" excuse to clean up his own mess too. My Skrull list includes: Tony Stark, Reed Richards or Sue Storm, Prof. X, Yellowjacket, Tigra, and Bill Foster (Giant Man).
More Spoilers
by Ambush Bug
Jun 14th, 2007
04:23:57 PM
I think that maybe some of the Skrulls have been in this form so long that they forgot that they were Skrulls in the first place. Grant Morrison used this idea in SKRULL KILL CREW a cult classic miniseries about a squad of Skrulls who Reed Richards tricked into being cows and then made them forget that they weren't cows. This would account for all of the stuff regarding Iron Man's inner thoughts and the like.
Then Morrison essentially recycled that Skrull story...
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
06:01:44 PM
..for his White Martian JLA story..
I gotta disagree Bug....SPOILERS
by Psynapse
Jun 14th, 2007
06:24:47 PM
**Tony Stark, Reed Richards or Sue Storm, Prof. X, Yellowjacket, Tigra, and Bill Foster **

They'll be the real deal except in certain instances (Happy for one) where a skrull was close to one of them and was able to manipulate them. The eschaton equation that Reed and Tony were working from (and was the impetus for the Civil War) will turn out to have been manipulated by the skrulls to trick earth's heroes into warring with each other. That way those readers that want to blame them for what they did get to and those that want them pardoned get to wage their own amnesty war on message boards across the 'net.

Both Marvel and DC are hype machines that will say damn near anything to cover up their fuck ups. They both like to pull retroactive 'gotchas' whenever they can.

Or the Skrull thing could go a whole other way...
by Jinxo
Jun 14th, 2007
06:57:35 PM
The science Reed Richards uses to map out the future? Going by Asimov, it can predict any large societal moves. In this context that would and should include other alien societies. So assume wasn't replaced or influenced. It is possible this invasion is what he saw coming and that for whatever reason The Civil War was part of the solution to the problem. Talking about manipulation, I would say, for instance, Spidey was maneuvered to be where he is. Stark brings Spidey into the registration movement, then Reed gives him that little talk about his "uncle" being the influence on his current actions. Only we now know that "reason" was crap. What would be the point then? That story is part of what pushed all Spideys buttons (he has his own uncle issues) and spun him to the other side of the war. But that is just Reed. I think Reed has set things up so that Earth is actually in some way more prepared for the invasion than it seems. Not sure if Stark is in with Reed or is a skrull. They both work. If he's a skrull then Reed is manipulating things right under his nose while Iron Skrull THINKS he has Reed snowed. In that case the real Tony is off the hook. If Tony is in on it with Reed then they were both doing all this ugliness for a greater cause and, again, he's off the hook. If he and Reed could not be sure what heroes were really skrulls then they wouldn't know who to trust and so couldn't explain what they were doing. Instead they'd have to be sneaky and underhanded. Might well be the point of the Civil War was to churn up such havoc that it would interfere and confuse the Skrulls plans of invasion. What way should you (the Skrulls) influence events to go when they are already apparently out of control? And with people suspicious of each other and questioning who their friends are, there's a better chance to flush out skrulls pretending to be someone else.
Waitasec...
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
08:54:12 PM
How do we know you're not a Skrull Bendis in disguise, huh Jinxo?
Well...
by Jinxo
Jun 14th, 2007
09:54:04 PM
...I... I... HEY LOOK OVER THERE! (runs from the room)
P.S.
by Thalya
Jun 14th, 2007
10:41:19 PM
Anyone going to Wizard World Philly this weekend? *raises hand* 'Cause I hate being all by myself at these things, or at least without peeps to say hi to. (although the solo treasure-hunting is nice and not having a date means I can bug Rags Morales about Calculator without feeling _overly_ embarrassed) If you're there and see a short blonde in (hmm...gonna be chilly tomorrow..) pink pants and a black Rainbow Brite or Wonder Woman tee, then, please, say hi! I'll bring my camera!
What's stoopid...
by stones_throw
Jun 15th, 2007
05:27:42 AM
...Marvel knew the continuity/ character problems they were causing with Civil War and all the other recent stuff. But they did it intentionally anyway and left themselves a way to undo it? Why not just tell good stories instead of fucking stuff up and immediately undoing it?
Actually...
by stones_throw
Jun 15th, 2007
08:40:17 AM
What do the Skrulls actually gain from posing as Earth heroes long-term? According to every Marvel bod Civil War has resulted in the heroes being more efficient, better organised and with a reduction in super-crime. If the Skrulls' goal was to get Hulk to return and smash everyone up, surely the same thing could have been achieved just by invading? To me this seems no more complex than the Stan Lee stories where an impostor poses as a hero.
stones throw...
by Ambush Bug
Jun 15th, 2007
09:43:03 AM
Bendis probably sees their goal as divide and conquer. I agree with your reasoning, but that's what happens when you retro something in to a story to fix shit, it doesn't hold up to much scrutiny. Bendis is claiming he's had this planned out a long time ago, but he's been known for tossing out something from out of left field and then saying he's known it all along. Kind of like the Ronin mess. I just wish for once, one of these writers would be honest and say, "I'm just making this shit up as I go along. If you know how it ends, let me know."
What a skrull wants....
by Psynapse
Jun 15th, 2007
10:47:40 AM
They want Earth. The planet. They don't have one remember? (Skrull homeworld was munched up during Byrne's FF run) Also, apparently skrull scripture declares earth to BE theirs. That's why they've invaded yet again.
Thor
by Bluejack
Jun 15th, 2007
11:32:19 AM
Anyone know the Thor storyline? The costume in the promo looks cool and he could arrive on the tale end of WWH to set things right. Also, I hate the Sentry. Hate him. Yup, I do.
Why I hated NEW WARRIORS.
by SleazyG.
Jun 15th, 2007
02:53:20 PM
I mean, besides the cliched dialogue, that is. Who the hell is this chick the story is focused on? I've now read elsewhere online that it's Wind Walker, whoever that is, but would it have killed them to, y'know, TELL US WHO THE CHARACTERS ARE?

And that's by no means the worst of it. No, the worst of it is Beak. When Grant Morrison introduced Beak, he was the most pathetic X-Man ever, and I mean that in a good way. He was gangly, clumsy, socially inept, and couldn't use his powers for shit. He was a sad sack loser, and I loved him for it. He meant well, and his heart was always in the right place, and he was a great character.

And now? Now Beak is a buff, charming pretty boy who's playing the role of a top secret underground freedom fighter, to which I can only say a hearty FUUUUUCK YOU. What the fuck? Is there a reason he couldn't have, y'know, still been Beak but without his mutant powers? Why couldn't he still be a skinny, gangly, dorky loser with a good heart who looked out for others? He could still serve a purpose, be part of the underground, and prove himself a hero without looking like he just walked off of an episode of fucking "Laguna Beach". What a load of horseshit.

I'm with Sleazy....( I want that on a T-shirt NOW)
by Psynapse
Jun 15th, 2007
04:09:27 PM
I own EVERY issue of the first run of New Warriors. Nicieza and Bagley OWNED it. This shit is..well, shit.
Cool G.I. Joe cover for even former fans
by BizarroJerry
Jun 15th, 2007
04:35:49 PM
In my quest to continue pushing G.I. Joe, I thought I'd point out July will start their own "World War III" 12-part storyline, in America's Elite #25. That issue's cover features every single member of the G.I. Joe team ever: http://tinyurl.com/2gv82n
The most important X-Man ever lost his powers?
by loodabagel
Jun 15th, 2007
10:34:46 PM
Man, that's a crock of shit. Also, thanks for the Atom tip. I believe I'll check it out. My bud wanted to get a comic yesterday, and the only thing I could reccomend to him was Fear Agent. Everything else was too continuity-heavy. Gad, what a sad, sad unfortuante turn for Beak.
Ok, I'm being completely thrown for a loop..
by Thalya
Jun 15th, 2007
11:04:00 PM
And apparently the entire audience at WWPhilly today was too. They're cancelling Flash: The Fastest Man Alive with issue #13, Mark Waid's coming in to write a one-shot All Flash #1 and then some iteration of The Flash will start up again in September?!?! Whadafug!? Not to mention the DC stuff in Philly is on the lackluster side (Bob Wayne hosted the Countdown panel today and at the start even called up DiDio in Charlotte as they were winding down the DC Nation panel there). Uh.. yeahbuhwha?
Bug, re Skrulls
by stones_throw
Jun 16th, 2007
12:07:27 PM
I get what their goal is, I just don't see what they gain from having long-term sleeper agents rather than just impersonating heroes short-term like in about a million Silver Age stories.
Musings on New Warriors and The Atom...
by loodabagel
Jun 17th, 2007
10:11:15 PM
I flipped through it to see what all the fuss was about. The Sylvie character, if that's who you're talking about, never went to Xavier School. She appeared in a few issues of District X. Her power was the ability to look like a furry elf. Considering that a charcter as obscure as her managed to get her background mixed up... It perplexes me. It does. The Atom was indeed pretty good. One of the only fun superhero comics available right now. Sean McKeever's leaving SMLMJ, but he's being replaced by Terry Moore. How cool is that? One almost has to like Marvel for sticking with this comic for so long. Long Live Spider-Man Loves MAry Jane.
Oh yeah...
by loodabagel
Jun 17th, 2007
10:12:26 PM
Anyone see Fantastic Four Meet the Silver Surfer this weekend?
Yep: FFSS Is Now My Favorite Comic Book Movie.
by Buzz Maverik
Jun 17th, 2007
11:36:38 PM
And I didn't like the original FF movie one bit! First, it seems like everybody who needed acting lessons (and that's the entire original cast, except for Chiklis who is great)got acting lessons...with the exception of Julian McDoom who gave a poor performance in a poorly conceived version of Doom. Alba, Evans and Groinford (or whatever) were all much better. Better, more appropriate dialgoue helped.

The pace was picked up, everything tightened, no filler. The look, the designs and everything were much better (not Kirby, but clean, 1960s Worlds Fair which was fine). In my opinion, Tim Story completely redeemed himself with the visuals and action. For once, somebody who made a bad film learned something, got a second chance and made a good film.

The Surfer's story was well done, appropriate, Doom's theft of the power cosmic was well adapted from the comic. The humor was there. The fights and the love the characters have for each other. Harry was wrong. The chick playing Alicia played blind very well and her performance, one of the best in the last film, was consistent.

Galactus wasn't a cloud. We just didn't see Galactus. And I don't believe it was because they couldn't depict Galactus or were afraid of stretching credibility...it was simply that the appearance of Galactus would have reconfigured the story too much. Because putting in the Watcher and the ultimate nullifier would have been too much, we couldn't have the FF directly confront Galactus. It was better to have a the Surfer have a simple but effective confrontation with his master, to sort of symbolize that all you have to do to be free is to want to be free.

Lots of great comic book elements. The Torch's girlfriend Frankie, who will one day become the hearld of Galactus herself (Byrne called her Nova, but as a die hard THE MAN CALLED NOVA fan, I always called her Chick Nova) whom the Surfer would also have feelings for. Norrin Rad. Shall Ball. Etc.

One cool thing that I admired...you know how in the X-MEN movies, they cut down everybody's powers. Like, Storm, Rogue, Magneto couldn't fly? Here, they amped up Johnny Human Torch's power. We've got him flying from New York to Washington DC and beyond. I like that because it showed that somebody wasn't afraid to think big and open things up. Just like a comic, they were able to take us all over the world and into space in a single story.

Here's one thing I didn't like: when the Surfer tells Sue his back story, we see it on his stomach...What is he a TeleTubby? No, when the Surfer shows you his story, you look into his eyes.

Norrin Radd Shall Ball?
by Buzz Maverik
Jun 17th, 2007
11:40:20 PM
I'm sure this was scrawled on his high school Peachy Folder up there in Zenn La. I meant: Norrin Radd. Shalla Ball.

Stupid lack of edit feature makes for unintentional laughs.

New comics! Yay!
by stones_throw
Jun 18th, 2007
08:42:51 AM
Bought my first issue of the Atom, it was indeed very good. Same for WORLD WAR HULK, although I'm struggling to see how Hulk can be brought back to heroism after this. Also I think the fact that the Sentry could easily defeat him kind of undermines the concept of the mini. Marvel shouldn't have a Superman-type character.

Having said that, it was definitely Brubaker's month. I loved CRIMINAL, Cap and DAREDEVIL. Cap 26 even made me feel something for Tony Stark. No mean feat. And the new issue of Criminal already feels like a giant leap forward from the last arc. Less knowingly cliched and with a cool-as-fuck protagonist. Hey Bug, what you thinking of the current DD arc? I think it's a blast to have something resembling an archetypal Daredevil story. The last issue was one of Brubaker and Lark's best.

Wow..
by Thalya
Jun 18th, 2007
10:00:37 AM
I just got a comic that blew me away (pun not intended) when I read it last night. Flash vol. 2, issues #175 and especially #176. Weather Wizard story arc. The Scott Kolins art is mind-blowingly good and the story revels in character work that I think even outdoes that Captain Cold oneshot a few issues later. Good stuff!
DD
by Ambush Bug
Jun 18th, 2007
10:18:01 AM
I'm really liking Daredevil. It's strong storytelling and I've always had a fondness for the Gladiator (those saw blades are just too cool). I think a lot of people are so used to the high concept stuff in Daredevil, that they aren't sure how to take a straight-up super hero yarn. Bru is doing a great job and the last issue's cliffhanger was one of my favorites.
Buzz is right! FF:SS is great!
by stones_throw
Jun 19th, 2007
09:23:24 AM
Doctor Doom - or more appropriately Lex Luthor - sucked but that and a few iffy lines aside, it was one hard-rockin FF flick! Not showing Galactus was appropriate for the story and it felt like an on-model portrayal of the FF the whole way thru. The bit with the FF under military arrest was straight from FF#2. I even liked the emotional plot with Sue wanting a normal life and the way it was resolved. A worthy adaptation that puts the franchise back on track.
The latest Marvel Cover for bloggers to complain about.
by Squashua
Jun 19th, 2007
11:48:46 AM
http://tinyurl.com/2mdmon
Wrong wrong wrong Squash...
by stones_throw
Jun 19th, 2007
03:51:27 PM
It's the difference between soft porn and a pin-up. When three women are tied up, with demeaned/submissive expressions and a tentacle sliming all over their giant cleavage, that's too far. But the real shame is it's a good book with strong female leads and to sell it Marvel asks for a tentacle rape cover (and if you don't think that's what they did you're being SO naive).
Ya know what I love?
by stones_throw
Jun 19th, 2007
04:02:53 PM
How Bendis starts using Luke Cage and suddenly everyone on the Bendis Board has always had some deep affection for him. Now about half the guys there have Skrull-related usernames...
I dunno, stones_throw...
by SleazyG.
Jun 19th, 2007
06:25:33 PM
...how do you judge whether tentacle rape is worth than t-rex cunnilingus? The first may be more obviously offensive, but to say that the second contains some major risks is an understatement.
Next column will be awsome...
by loodabagel
Jun 20th, 2007
01:07:17 AM
Loodabagel vs. Back in Black: Round 3. Be there or be square.
It didn't exactly jump out as "cunnilingus" to me...
by stones_throw
Jun 20th, 2007
03:53:51 AM
I suppose I could be wrong though. The other cover was just very blatant. That one reminds me more of the One Million Years BC poster.
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