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THE TALE OF TWO SISTERS gets a lead and it's noneother than Betty Brant... or Starla Grant, if you prefer...

Naomi Watts RING by NachoNegro	Jun 11th, 2007 04:02:31 AM
Wouldn't mind taking a look.
Elizabeth Banks can pull it off by NachoNegro	Jun 11th, 2007 04:03:20 AM
trust me, she's just finished me off.
... by Quint	Jun 11th, 2007 04:07:35 AM
charming
who is this? by BadMrWonka	Jun 11th, 2007 04:14:04 AM
I've never met any of these films... but I'm stupid...
OK, it's official by VoxMillennium	Jun 11th, 2007 04:16:01 AM
Hollywood doesn't have a fucking clue anymore how to make a decent horror movie. The crown now officially moved to the UK where with movies like The Descent and 28 Weeks Later they've earned it, as Hollywood has no sense and/or talent but to make crappy asian remakes or let hacks like Eli Torture Porn Roth make the headlines. (As for J-horror, assuming "J stands for Japan, the original Tale of Two Sisters is South-Korean.)
Quint the Asian Movie Expert by godoffireinhell	Jun 11th, 2007 04:16:38 AM
The original TALE OF TWO SISTERS came out in 2003, the exact same year as Takashi Shimizu's first Japanese JU-ON movie, which is infinitely less artistic and watchable as TALE OF TWO SISTERS. So explain to me how J-Horror (an inappropriate term here since Korea isn't Japan) had run out of steam in 2003 if you think JU-ON is such a great film... Please. You really need to stop writing about Asian films or at least stop acting as if you know anything about them. You don't. The fact that your quote is on a DVD cover doesn't make you an expert.
Starlaaaaaaa!!!! by Hint of Smegma	Jun 11th, 2007 04:21:10 AM
Ooooh baby.
Shouldn't it be A Tale, not The Tale? by TheNorthlander	Jun 11th, 2007 04:21:19 AM
Anyway, the original is about the only Korean movie I really really love. The soundtrack and cinematography though is really what makes the movie. Slow, light waltz and beautiful images in contrast to the inner struggles of the girl... brilliant. Unless Hollywood really manages to put a completely new spin on the story I don't see how this will top the original.
of course... by TheNorthlander	Jun 11th, 2007 04:27:37 AM
...topping the original might not be that important as long as people pay money to see it.
Ditto what TheNorthlander said... by adeepercut2k	Jun 11th, 2007 04:30:39 AM
Why oh why?
TheNorthlander by Shan	Jun 11th, 2007 04:46:57 AM
"topping the original IS not that important as long as people pay money to see it." Unfortunately, we all knew that already.
P.S by Shan	Jun 11th, 2007 04:47:49 AM
I know you knew that too of course North ...
Shan by TheNorthlander	Jun 11th, 2007 04:58:35 AM
Yeah I know that you know that I knew that too.
Actually, that should have read ... by Shan	Jun 11th, 2007 05:08:20 AM
"topping the original IS not important as long as people pay money to see it." Unfortunately, we all knew that already. I don't think the "that important" even comes into, sadly.
Enough! by FilmCritic3000	Jun 11th, 2007 06:09:23 AM
They're going to remake "The Joy Luck Club" at the rate they're going! It's not J-horror but it's got Asian people and that's good enough for Hollywood's coffers! I really liked "A Tale Of Two Sisters". Enough with the fricking Asian horror remakes!
"tastful" and "artistic" lesbianism by NachoNegro	Jun 11th, 2007 06:20:33 AM
Is there any other kind? I would also add that every lesbian scene I've ever seen on screen has been entirely essential to the plot.
Fuck this remake by HeWhoCannotBeNamed	Jun 11th, 2007 07:16:27 AM
and fuck Hollywood and their incessant need to remake/re-envision every Asian horror film (or any Asian film for that matter). Assholes. The list is endless now and it's clearly not letting up any time soon. There are plenty of books out there ripe for adaptation, why continue ripping off (in a shoddy and ineffective fashion) other filmmakers' visions? Wait, don't answer the rhetorical question.
Whoops. Sorry. by HeWhoCannotBeNamed	Jun 11th, 2007 07:19:33 AM
I seemed to have jumped on FilmCritic3000's bandwagon. Well, I still vehemently stand by what I said. The Hollywood-Remake-A-Go-Go must be stopped. Don't pay to see this crap folks. Rent/Buy the original.
Betty Brant is a dirty whore by Dr Gregory House	Jun 11th, 2007 07:20:46 AM
and we wouldn't have her any other way. How you say.....reverse cowgirl!
Thank you godoffireinhell by Drworm2002	Jun 11th, 2007 07:26:01 AM
Japan, Koera or China. Who gives a fuck, it's all Asian, right? You think a movie site would get this right. I would love for you to say that AC/DC is one of the best British bands ever. That would get you fired from Rolling Stones.
Fuck this shit. by tomthumbstallywhacker	Jun 11th, 2007 07:39:17 AM
Another remake? It's time Hollywood started taking some chances, not shitting all over original movies that actually took a gamble that paid off. Hollywood is a fucking parasite.
Who the fuck is Thomas and Charles Guard? by Jakes Nel	Jun 11th, 2007 07:47:58 AM
Anyone? Oh, and does anyone know if an Oldboy remake is still in the works? Please say it's not...
J-Horror by Buffalo500	Jun 11th, 2007 07:57:35 AM
I know it gets it's name from Japan but I always assumed J-Horror referred to a type of horror film that came from Asia, not just from Japan. Phone, from South Korea has been referred to as part of J Horror. But then again the Angry Talkbackers are always right….
She makes me do a sex wee!!! by James_O'Nasty	Jun 11th, 2007 08:18:37 AM
IN MY PANTS!!
I seem to remember being underwhelmed by "ATOTS" by BenBraddock	Jun 11th, 2007 08:44:50 AM
It didn't leave a huge impression on me, but that could be because I saw it after overdosing on Asian scaries. It was nicely filmed though. Fingers crossed they don't make a complete hash of the (sigh) US remake.
re: "J-Horror" by ScottGreen	Jun 11th, 2007 08:52:38 AM
Check out David Kalat's book J-Horror. Coincidentally, I've started putting together a review of it for this week's AICN Anime column. Kalat argues that "J-Horror" is a non-ideal terms that has been and can be applied to a sub-genre of horror movies that could be thought of as the "dead wet girl" movies. The Ring, Ju-On, ect. He present Two Sisters as part of that movement, and says "'K-Horror' takes everything that is wrong about the term 'J-Horror' and makes it worse."
God is Right... by reverendflint	Jun 11th, 2007 08:53:08 AM
godoffireinhell is mostly correct in his brutal observation of Quint's off-handed opinions on J-horror. Preach it , brothah!....but! Quint has every right to report scoops, tidbits and news on any film that he finds out about. His opinions and knowledge on certain genres can be a bit confused. I still have mucho love for the Quintster!
What's the bloody point! by Rameses	Jun 11th, 2007 09:13:15 AM
I rather like the original , t's creepy , nicely filmed and has great music .But really it just doesn't seem strong enough to remake.The fact that it was Korean, was a big part of it's appeal/interest , once Americanised it's just going to be run of the mill.Why don't peaple just watch the original..subtitles aren't that big a deal!
What's the bloody point! by Rameses	Jun 11th, 2007 09:13:37 AM
I rather like the original , t's creepy , nicely filmed and has great music .But really it just doesn't seem strong enough to remake.The fact that it was Korean, was a big part of it's appeal/interest , once Americanised it's just going to be run of the mill.Why don't peaple just watch the original..subtitles aren't that big a deal!
I hope they change it by StovetopStuffin'	Jun 11th, 2007 09:18:50 AM
Cause the original wasn't all that great. Normally I love the originals and hate the american remake stuff, (cough cough, the Eye starring Jessica Alba, cough cough) But tale of two sisters wasn't all that scary, creepy, or original. It was really mostly a knock off of "The Other". Not the movie with Nicole Kidman. The one with John Ritter about the murderous little boy.
Hope you've got a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike by Osmosis Jones	Jun 11th, 2007 09:19:50 AM
in there. ~ HEY-O!
J-Horror, K-Horror, whatever... by BrooseTheScharuk	Jun 11th, 2007 10:25:42 AM
...I hate these stupid little categorizations anyway, and I think that it's all just lazy American generalizations made by people who couldn't tell a Japanese person from a Korean (or Chinese for that matter) if they were standing side-by-side reciting the declaration of independence in their respective native languages. And I hate all the heavily atmosphere-reliant crap that usually fits into the "Letter-Horror" category. Ringu was simple-minded and cheap, and so was Ju-On. Boring movies that play more like videos for Asian metal bands or something. The whole "dead kid" vibe is so the '70's dressed up in a kimono. Tale of Two Sisters was not one of these movies. Sure, it had the dead kid thing going and everything, but it wasn't that simple-minded sort of "let's throw a bunch of little tykes in there in pancake make-up staring from under the bed because child mortality is just so creepy and disturbing"; It was more a tragic melodrama, with ghostly overtones. I would categorize it more alongside movies like Memories of Murder or Chan-Wook Park's work, simply because it works off of the human drama inherent in the core story, rather than being built around the cheap scares that people seem to think are such an Asian cinema delicacy. The above-mentioned titles are non-horror films that contain elements of horror, but more importantly, they are acutely human stories, about characters as opposed to being about water-damaged tenements or creepy wells. Just like The Host is firstly about a screwed-up family taking matters into their own hands when they get no help from official sources. Any "horror" moments that occur in ATOTS do so as a result of the family tragedy that is at the heart of the story. Most of the best horror from any country works in this way. Rarely is a top-drawer horror movie made by a filmmaker who lives only to make horror. There's just usually no genuine sense of humanity, which is what makes horror horrible when it happens to someone. Do I think that A Tale of Two Sisters should be re-made in America? No fucking way. I won't see it. Largely because I think it will be made in the same spirit as remarks that suggest that the original is on the same level as- and categorizable with- crap like Ringu, Ju-On and The Eye, which would be just very wrong, because it's so much more elegant and restrained and thoughtful than any of those other films.
K-Horror by FlyingGuillotine	Jun 11th, 2007 11:23:21 AM
In some cases, I would have to agree. PHONE, for instance, is a fairly atrocious rehash of every J-horror trope, blended with endless exposition sprinkled with some non-boo scares. Awful.
Agreed with Broose by themikejonas	Jun 11th, 2007 11:29:32 AM
ATOTS is "longhaired vengeful Asian female ghost horror" only on the surface, and turning those conventions around and making it more than that is what makes it a classic of the genre (for that matter, that's what makes Ringu and Ju-On worthwhile as well--they twisted the genre in their ow ways, Ringu by throwing us a "red herring" with the curse's "escape clause" and ultimately making the cure worse than the curse, and Ju-On by deconstructing the genre). These three titles, IMO, are without equal; most everything else in Asian horror has been disposable.
The original director's casting choices for the remake by themikejonas	Jun 11th, 2007 11:32:52 AM
There was an article in the L.A. Times a while back where Kim Ji-Wun was asked which actors he saw in the roles for a remake, and he mentioned Billy Bob Thornton as the father (great choice), Julianne Moore as crazy stepmom (also excellent), and Scarlett Johanssen and Dakota Fanning as the sisters (odd combo, but interesting).
Are they remaking this one, too? by CuervoJones	Jun 11th, 2007 12:17:11 PM
No screenwriters in Hollywood, uh?
THE TYRANNY AND THE BULLSHITS GONE ON TOO LONG by TheUltraHumanite	Jun 11th, 2007 12:20:13 PM
/join #DeathToAICN where we can talk ACTUAL cool news, and flame shitty news
TWO SISTERS ..BAD?! by ScaryJim	Jun 11th, 2007 12:44:36 PM
There's alot of bad asian horror, I think 'Phone' is atrocious, the 'Juon' films aren't really that good once you've seen 'ringu', 'Marebito' and 'shutter' are pretty awful. 'A tale of two sisters' was one of the few that took a different route and was a bit more psychological and involved a bit of thinking and had a great atmosphere and a classy score. If that makes it 'out of steam' then so be it. Considering how many shit films this site wanks off I think it's a bit bloody rich to knock a very good movie and even hint that a remake could top it. So many great books out there that could be made into films, so many fucking lazy studios.
Jesus, I'd really like to give it to her by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 11th, 2007 12:57:38 PM
She's so purty. She makes Mr. Happy go Nnnnnrrrrrant!
A tale of two sisters is a good movie, but by CuervoJones	Jun 11th, 2007 01:16:40 PM
not a horror movie. Juon movies scare the shit out of me.
SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT I JUST HEARD.....................? by alucardvsdracula	Jun 11th, 2007 01:51:02 PM
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Original was a masterpiece by Avengerdude	Jun 11th, 2007 02:05:28 PM
A Tale of Two Sisters was not only a very good ghost story but a true work of art. An amazing, psychological thriller which I still often think about, 3 years after seeing it at the cinema. I am very surprised that Hollywood are remaking it. They will probably explain the ending, thinking the ambiguity was some sort of plot flaw.
I saw the original, hearing it was one of the.... by DanielKurland	Jun 11th, 2007 02:20:54 PM
scariest movies ever. I was really unimpressed. There was some neat stuff with the typical pale, long haired Asian girl standing on the girl's bed out of nowhere, but I was pretty underwhelmed. Maybe I should try watching it again in a better mood.
Have you ever seen a photo of Quint? by darth girlfriend	Jun 11th, 2007 02:55:42 PM
Quint likes to bill himself a "quasi-celebrity," but if Elizabeth Banks even learned Quint described himself was her stalker, she'd need a daily six-hour rape shower.
alucardvsdracula by Frank Black	Jun 11th, 2007 02:58:50 PM
You speak for all of us! Thank you.
Alucardvsdracula: Hear, hear! by tomthumbstallywhacker	Jun 11th, 2007 04:47:17 PM
Nicely done.
ROFLMAO @ darth girlfriend! by tomthumbstallywhacker	Jun 11th, 2007 04:48:23 PM
"Rape shower"!
You lost me at J-Horror... by voxmortis	Jun 11th, 2007 08:13:53 PM
As mentioned before, it's friggin Korean, and you made a mistake - admit it! And as for K-Horror being 'everything that's wrong with J-Horror' or whatever you quoted... frig sake - Korea's given us the best Asian films in the past few years... The Host, OldBoy, the Sympathies and this. Just cos wet scary girls are part of asian mythology doesn't make them copycats, just as the West's vampire/werewolf films aren't immediately written off by 2nd rate hacks as derivative (when in fairness most of them should be).
Tale Of 2 Sisters IS scary as fuck! by RaveX	Jun 11th, 2007 08:49:00 PM
ok, so it has less BOO moments then Ju-On has, but it's all about the build up of tension. and that one scene in car where brother's wife remembers what she saw under the cupboard... DAMN! that scene scared the shit out of me more then both Ring and Ringu's "death girl in closet" and all of Ju-On's [sore throat]AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA[/sore throat] put together.
Avengerdude by Kung Fu Hustler	Jun 11th, 2007 09:16:04 PM
Seriously, I think Tale of Two Sisters is my favorite movie of the last five or ten years. I saw it in a dinky, run-down theater in NYC and was blown away by how engrossing and terrifying it was. And terrifying in the good, physchological way. Quint can fuck off with his off-hand dismissal of the film. But what can you expect from "The Defenders of Hostel II"?
Is Aja working on anything new right now? by blindambition238	Jun 11th, 2007 09:20:53 PM
Seriously his Hills Have Eyes remake and Haute Tension are the only horror films from the past five years that made any impact on me.
Quint you jag-off by SelfSentered	Jun 11th, 2007 09:23:46 PM
Like everyone else here has said, it's Korean, not Japanese. I don't know who ScottGreen is, but quoting someone who thinks that Korean films are inferior to Japanese films (at least in the last 5-8 years) is no way to make an argument. ATOTS was directed by Ji-woon Kim, who is not just some hack tossing off assembly-line horror. He also directed a film called 'A Bittersweet Life', which is AMAZING. If you didn't love the movie, I really don't give a fuck, but let's just settle down and have an actual ASIAN cinema fans report the ASIAN cinema around here.
Remember hearing that the Olsen twins wanted to do this by Shan	Jun 11th, 2007 10:00:53 PM
... ? I seem to remember hearing that somehwere.
This movie will not be scary... by IronSpidey	Jun 11th, 2007 10:54:34 PM
for me. I will be too busy ogling Ms. Banks.
Come on! by Zeldas	Jun 11th, 2007 11:39:29 PM
Although I love her . . . Banks cannot play an evil stepmother character! Am I the only one who thought the original one was super creepy??
Alexandre Aja is remaking INTO THE MIRROR by godoffireinhell	Jun 12th, 2007 12:26:56 AM
Really funny that you should ask about Aja in this thread, blindambition. So yeah, Aja is currently filming a remake of the Korean horror movie INTO THE MIRROR under its new, shortened title MIRRORS. It's filming in Rumania with Jack Bauer as the male lead. I don't have very high hopes for it. Wish Aja would direct something original or a book adaptation instead. I dug the HILLS remake but I still think he's wasting his considerable skills working on remake after remake.
re: re: J-Horror by kiddae	Jun 12th, 2007 07:18:21 AM
Actually, Scott Green's quote was saying that J-Horror as a term is bad, and K-Horror as a term is worse. I'm not sure if that's supposed to excuse Quint or what, though. The accuracy of describing A Tale Of Two Sisters as J-Horror aside, saying "J-Horror was about out of steam" is pretty fucking absurd. A-Action has run out of steam! I don't want to see any more movies about white people firing guns!
She's so pretty by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 12th, 2007 02:45:36 PM
I want to sink my lips into her pink muffincake of love. Please, lord god in heaven who does not exist, deliver this fair creature unto me

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