Does Tim Story and the gang REALLY think we're that stupid??? Seeing as he's been trying to pass Jessica Alba as a member of the Aryan Nation for the past two movies... apparently so.

Ass.

Team America: World Police.

I expect the underwear to be visible and have a life sized clone of Jessica Alba in them.

1) it's a fake, or

2) this guy's a tool. Possibly both.

Why do people argue about the vast suckage of a film they have not seen? I understand the mortal dread or jubilant expectation over a film that is soon to be viewable in a multiplexus near you, but for those of you who chose to actually argue the merits of something you have not seen is terribly, terribly silly. (I am not referring to the reviewers; they appear to have seen the fillum.)

As for me, my socks are screaming to have their odors expunged. Speaking of odors, don't see BUG. OCEAN'S 13 was not even stylish; it was drab and miserable. However, on DVD, THE SWORD OF DOOM is stirring. And a filly won the Belmont!

All this carping about other reviewers is petty and unprofessional.

...AICN will print anything without any investigation or that a good majority of people who come to this site hate to hear anything positive.

I've given reviews to this site before and was called a plant on several occasions. I truly believed it was because I didn't curse or misspell enough words in what I wrote. HA! I kid! Though, I'm not delusional enough to believe a major studio is going to dedicate people to sway the small amount of people that come to this site to believe their film is good. They're going to spend their money on mass advertising campaigns. Most TB's average around 100 or so responses. Even with ones pulling in 400+, it's still a small amount of people reacting, bickering amongst themselves, or spaming. So there are probably only 50 to 100 individuals posting in a TB on any givin subject. With advertising logic, each vocal person equals 100 silent ones. So 100TBers x 100= 10,000 people. Average movie ticket price is about $10. $10 x 10,000= $100,000. Wow...that's pretty crappy money. That's money to be ignored. A drop in the bucket. Barely pays for catering for the film. Let's face it; Yes internet sites are used for advertising. But no, there is very little reason to try to fake a review.

Just look at what listening to the net-geeks did for Snakes On A Plane... They'll listen to their test audiences before us.

And Mori, I think maybe Roy may have been told that there had been no other screenings by the FOX guy because the FOX guy was: A) Talking about the UK. B) Gives that answer to make people feel special. C) Is a typical suit that only knows what's on his reference cards.

Man, I remember seeing a sceening of Disney's Mighty Joe Young. There was a part where Ray Harryhausen was dancing with his wife. He says "You're as beautiful as the day I met you." to his wife and was a nice little nod to the master of stop motion monkeys. Asked to stay and give my opinion with about twenty other people, the suit running the show asked if there was anything that stood out. Typical reactions of purtty colors and SFX. I mentioned I was glad they gave Ray the nod and hoped that stayed in the film. He stared blankly at me... "Ray who? What does he have to do with the movie?" I explained who Harryhausen was and how, without him, there would not be a Mighty Joe Young. "Well, I don't think so. And I have no idea why you think he's remotely important." Swear to the bear, that's what the prick said. I had to explain (seriously, now) that this Mighty Joe Young was a remake of a 1949 movie. "Whatever. Please ignore him." That's what suit boy told the rest of the test audience hold overs. I turned to the higher mucky mucky suits in the shadows and asked where they got such an uninformed ninny. "DON'T TALK TO THEM! Don't you talk to them! You are not suppossed to know they're here!" Seriously. These are the type of guys that run the test screenings. Stuffed shirts that have little idea about anything that's not current industry bullcrap. Hard to find good help, I guess.

"This film opens in Ireland in June 15th. They havent been showing screenings here." Thanks for that! They are not showing them in Antarctica either.

"Why dont they stop making comic book movies" - Because they make shit loads of fucking cash for the studios, fella.

Go Tim!

For the record, I have no interest in this film or franchise. I just want to see a Reviewer War. Cry havoc!

Seriously

I want one of the top dogs to do one. That is what I am truly waiting for to happen. Less than a week left. I am sure someone trustworthy will be along to give one.

sorry to go on but I think you might find this one interesting - I was a projectionist for a while and Universal brought the Hulk into our cinema (it was well after the cinema release date. Think it was just before the DVD release) and tested it to a group of teenagers. I sat in on that screening and afterwards the lady said "Did you like it? what didn't you like" etc. I didn't hear one kid say anything great about it, they all thought it was long and boring. Personally I think it's a fucking masterpiece but that's by the by. My point is I guess, why would they test screen it after the cinema release? Maybe they were thinking of cuts for the DVD release?

Interviewer: So Jessica, how do you think Rise of the Silver Surfer will do up against TRANSFORMERS???

Jessica Alba:"All I know is that Rise of the Silver Surfer is going to be the BEST FAMILY COMEDY of the summer!"

LOL Family COMEDY!? What a way to reel in the fan support. I will avoid this movie like a large steaming turd. I do NOT touch pooh.

Gutted to say the least about galactus though, dude.

This movie will have a tidy opening weekend--not huge, and will plummet after that. Many children and dumb people will like it, and their short attention spans will quickly move on.

They should've left it alone and made this two films and just dealt with Surfers arrival in this one and have him forget himself and get close to Alicia Masters and in the next film Galactus arrives.

I still want my FF Atlantean Invasion flick with Bale as Namor.

So with that said, stop arguing over the authenticity of his review and go see "knocked up" which is by far the best, most creative and original movie of the summer thus far. who knows-you might even learn something.

now I know mori usually chides me for incindiary remarks but in this case I'll put a call out to him, harry and the rest of the aicn staff and ask them an honest question which requires egos to be put aside--

how many hits does this site generate in a single day?

now reduce that by how many come by way of google or other search engines each day.

now reduce it by how many, even at an estimate, are between the ages of 15-34 and are male.

Now mori or harry or whomever is reading this post, please take the final number which is what I figure adds up to the most likely set of readers who would possibly be influenced by a review on a site which once featured an x-rated ape/penis backdrop and quite often (once a week at least) has posts by the site master which include offensive and also x-rated language?

Now take that number and multiply it by $8.50 which is an average price of a movie ticket and you'll see why YOU yes YOU the reader reading this very post don't matter to fox or warner or sony or whichever studio. you're too small a number and too insignificant to matter to them. and yes I include myself in that comment.

thus in the end the movie studios don't waste time with plants on this site or any other. it's just not worth it. they'll make $100m without wasting an intern's time by writing a phony review.

but the point is simply that old guys like me (32) are so happy to even have live-action comic book movies of our childhood heroes that we'll accept them even if they're pretty terrible.

and therein lies the problem I know but who am I to change it anyway? I'm just going to pay my $8.50 (make it $17 if the wife does come along) and hope it goes well. if it doesn't, I'll see the third installment on dvd.

maybe even hd-dvd---and here's why....

and you know if they're on this site looking for teenage girls BOY are they on the wrong site! hu-hoo!

and, all of my friends are male, 28-35, married and many with at least one if not two children. they're the ones the studios want, and that's my point in the end.

even with the multiplier of aicn friends and family added in its not enough, its just not.

thus I just don't see how or why a studio would issue a plant review to this site. not enough people to affect ticket sales, which is what my whole point is about in the first place--DOLLARS!!!

lastly, and do not take this the wrong way, but the world doesn't revolve around LA or NYC. I know thats hard for new yorkers and LA folk to understand but its the truth. backwater houstonians and texans and americans in general will see this movie without ever having read the supposed plant review and been to this site or heard about our dear old harry. this is all I'm saying in the end!

finally at long last!

but with that said I wouldn't be surprised if the overwhelming majority of readers are in fact just like me.

and for the record I'm not trolling for young boys. or young girls for that matter. now if there's any 22 year old female strippers from the houston galleria area who are coked out of their minds and want to help movitate my wife into her first three-way please hollah at a brutha.

and as for the studio execs being behind the times, I sell two kinds of software--one that doesn't matter to this conversation but the other is relevant. it's a web-based solution which delivers board of directors their board meeting agendas through the site as opposed to the age-old method of printing and mailing or using a courier. it's about half the cost of the archaic method, but the overwhelming majority of execs refuse to use the site if the company buys it or even consider using a laptop or the web if they're only weighing buying the software. as such, you're 100% right when you say the execs are behind the times by a year or two or more (make it 10+ in this case).

About Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness...

I really enjoyed the origin story of the Marvel Zombieverse Fantastic Four.  Issue #4 of 5 is out now.  I wonder if Bruce Campbell gets any money for them using his likeness in comics?

Check out these guerrilla interviews that I did with Bruce Campbell and Macho Man Randy Savage.  I got the YouTube with spaces, and tinyurl.

http://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=LVuKoAn9RxQ

http://tinyurl.com/248xr9

About the FF2 movie, do NOT go see it opening night/weekend. Since the previews suck (and the original was capital G-A-Y) then it can wait.  I suggest reading real Talkbackers' reviews after it’s out, then make your decision.  If it's another turd sandwich, don’t see it at a theater.  Wait for DVD, rent it, or better yet watch a burned copy with your buddies so you can pause it and rag on the film.  Or better yet, make up a drinking game…or take a drink every time something gay happens.  But remember, if the movie really sucks you could die of alcohol poisoning…set a limit…and please don’t drink and drive.

P.S. I saw Hostel 2.  I also saw the live G4TV interview with Eli Roth on Friday.  He compared Hostel 2 to The Road Warrior and Aliens (being that those are awesome sequels).  Its beginning is more like Maniac Cop 2.  And its ending is very unsatisfying.  If you introduce a very, very bad guy…a child killer of all things possible…he should get snuffed.  And the heroine isn’t much of a hero at all.  The basic premise of the ending was VERY predictable.  One line at the Harvest Festival gave it all away.  I want to see a third Hostel where the whole fucking village gets obliterated except the mean-ass kids.  And then I wouldn’t end it there.  Remember the ending of Jay & Silent Bob Strikes Back, where they actually get on a plane and kick everyone’s ass who talked shit about them on the Internet.  I would want the almost the same ending, except all the sick, rich bastards get lynched all around the world.  Maybe their list of elite clientele could get exposed online complete with video evidence.  Then a montage of the repercussions follows.

I GIVE HOSTEL part II, 2 out of 4 stars.  I gave Hostel part I 3 out of 4 stars for being fairly original, and for mixing genres.  And to Eli Roth if you’re reading, I bought HOSTEL part I on DVD (complete with Best Buy exclusive bloodhound dog temporary tattoo).  I’m going to “rent to own” Hostel part II, then put my copy in a plain paper sleeve and slide it inside my Hostel part I DVD case.

P.P.S. I saw Ocean’s 13.  Yes, I watch too many movies.  I thought 13 was FAR better than 2, but still not as a fresh or fun as part 1.  BUT WORTH SEEING.  There are no breathtaking effects so you can wait for DVD.  It’s not a big screen must see.  Hopefully Hostel part 3 will be even more satisfying of a sequel as Ocean’s 13.  Yes, there is a loophole for doing a GOOD Hostel part 3 (the blonde girlfriend of the first movie’s lead).  BTW, Hostel Part II does not suck as much as Ocean’s 12.

Oh yeah, and the interweb is teh suck.

We shouldn't have to say 'oh, they fucked up FF, that's it. Maybe in 10 years or so they will try it again.'

We should be able to say 'oh they fucked up a FF movie, oh well so-and-so is making an alternitive one next year.

I'd love someone to do a Dark Knight Returns movies, an alternative Superman movie, a new Spiderman etc.

I think we'd be less pissed about them fucking up once in a while then

Executive No 1: "Ok so we messed up with Batman n Robin and we need to make Superman, they seem to be doing great with those Marvel films."

Exec No 2: "So what are they doing right?"

Exec No 1: "Well they hired directors who are respected and have done interesting films and can bring something interesting to each movie. They hired Sam Rami for Spiderman and Brian Singer for Xmen. So I guess we should hire someone like Brian Singer who would treat Superman with resect."

Exec No 2: "So we should hire Brian Singer?"

Exec No 1: "No, I said we should hire someone 'like' Brian Singer, you know an independant director."

Exec No 2: "So we hire Brian Singer?"

Exec No 1: "No we find someone who has made some interesting films that are not your typical Hollywood movies so they can bring some integrity to Superman. You know the way Brian Singer had made the Usual Suspects. We need to find someone like that."

Exec No 2: "So we hire Brian Singer?"

Exec No 1: "No!....Oh forget it, ok we'll just hire Brain Singer."

I always thought the Berg would be a perfect choice for Superman. He knows epic. He knows americana.

I have a feeling Avatar will blow us away like T2 did.

With FF it's easy just to hate it all.

SR was good in quite a few ways, and it never raped the character. It was all just a repeat of what had gone before with all the humor taken out.

It still annoys me that Singer was so adament about not doing an origin movie because he thought it took up too much of the plot time and had been done too mant times.

So he goes and does a sequal which is structured like an origin movie.

It even had Superman craching on earth, the Daily Planet covering his return etc. It was all an origin movie without the interesting origin bits.

He should have made it his own instead of being a big pussy and remaking Donners film.

It is often easier to deal with something being terrible that it being ok or nearly good. Kind of makes it more painful seeing the greatness just out of reach.

He is still my favorite superhero though.

Although I would have said Spiderman 3 would have been perect if you had asked me a year ago.

A lot of older people who remember the originals, little kids and a lot in between.

A superman film is always going to make a lot because he is better known than Jesus but it didn't really set the world on fire like they thought it would.

I though they handled the marketing quite badly. All they needed to do was plaster the logo all over the world. I even thought it was crap having Superman on the poster instead of just the logo.

If everyone whistles at once she might come.

If in the next film he is paralyzide by Kryptonite instead of actually facing a worthy challenge I'll be pissed off.

I always wonder how people like him even get into directing. He probably got into it by accident.

Superman needs Darkseid. The cartoon exploited this most excellently. Luthor also should always be hovering around in the background, they need to steer clear of formula and concern themselves with the power struggles between these individuals based on their different worldviews.

Tim: 'Oh, erm, wait, oh yeh I had to direct this film, the Fab Four'

Tim's Friend: 'You mean Fantastic Four?'

Tim: 'Oh yeah, thats it, sorry I don't even know what I'm doing half the time. It's like that summer they got me working in that barbershop.'

Tim's Friend: 'Wasn't that a film you where making? It was just set in a barbershop.'

Tim: 'Oh yeah, films, right. I was never that into films. There boring. Dunno why they keep getting me to make them.'

Tim's Friend: 'I don't want to be your friend anymore Tim.'

I don't think many of the comic villans would translate that well to screen.

Parasite, Darkseid, Braniac, The Real Lex Luthor, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Bizarro, Metallo, Mongul.

I didn't like how in SR some guy fired a gun straight in his eye and he did'nt even blink.

There is no-where to go with that kind of invincibiliy, it's imposible to create any kind of tension. I'd like to think that if the millitary decided to take on Supes he'd have a bit of a fight on his hands rather that bullets and misiles just pinging off him.

If he can take a bullet to the eye without blinking then it was illogical that he had to stuggle to stop the plane at the start of the film.

I'd like to see a Superman film having Mr. Mxy bookends where he tricks him into disappearing after conjuring something absurd while barely batting an eye. Then getting into the main story. Superhero films pretty much miss the absurd of the everyday, a feeling of a large universe where anything can happen, it seems too contrived and not magical/wondrous enough.

I want a Flash who has to accelerate and for him to need to slow down. It would be much more exciting than having him basicly teleport to wherver.

Only a few people seem to disagree, so I'll go with the majority.

Go over to the Empire Online site and read their review. It annoys me when people complain about plants and dodgy reviewers when they could just go and read some actual film journalist reviews.

When you think about it each step should be a bound that covers great difference and stuff like stopping or tight turning should involve dramatic skidding for great distances.

There's plenty of ways to go.

They are essentially a sub genre all of their own and therfore they could do them in the style of any genre.

I always though doing Batman as a Assult on P13/Rio Bravo style movie would be cool.

A dethroned Aquaman wandering through the underwater kindgoms (Conan/Flash Gordon style) trying to restore his self respect and overthrow his tyrant brother.

Green Lantern movie where Hal Jordan is recruited into the GL Corps. after finding Abin Sur's ring and thrown into basic training at the beginning of an escalating intergalactic conflict. Platoon with aliens (and not as dark of course).

But what do we get...wigs and some stupid bitch.

Why would he even talk to someone like her?

Why not just let any director take a pop at a random story within the life of a superhero. If the studios start doing multiple films based around one hero i.e. The Dark Knight alongside The Dark Knight Returns then they could start taking more risks without the fear of fucking up one long franchise.

Nite everyone.

I'd bet that you actually might feel somewhere in the middle of these two which might actually deliver you a FF film that is better than the first one, but not quite what it could have been and really isn't that what we want.

Especially given the fact that Tim Story has already shown that he barely gets the FF characters and story.

Me, I actually liked the first FF film as Chris Evans really sold me on his portrayal of Johnny Storm and since he's my favorite of the four I was happy. So long as he's still good in this one I'll still like it. Maybe not as much as Roy but I don't think I'll hate it as much as Memflix.

As I said, somewhere in the middle. When I see it, I'll let you know.

If I were to write a GL trilogy I would push the limits and cover all the bases. No comedy shit and definately no Jack Black as the GL. That would be dumb as hell. I would however include several of the GL Corps.

If you wanted a GL film what would be the plot points you would want to have hit?

Fuck comics. They are for children. If you are over the age of fourteen and still reading superhero comics, you are emotionally and intellectually stunted. Or, possibly, you are Nicolas Cage.

Anyway, my point is this: What the fuck is up with the surprise over Fantastic Four being a family-friendly comedy? Someone up above actually had the nerve to criticize Jessica Alba for describing the film as such. I ask you, what the hell else should it be? They are four people with preposterous super powers! How is our evolution as a species helped by people who think a film about a man who can stretch into strange shapes should be 'dark' and 'edgy'. You are holding us all back!

In conclusion, I am very much anticipating this retarded-looking film. It should be good, I think, and have a few funny moments plus some nifty special effects. Also, Jessica Alba.

P.S. No offense and that.

Just wondering.

zb.brox - I have read a few of those (many years ago), and I will say this: They are good examples of comic book writing and whatnot. Problem is, I believe that is a similar sentiment to 'that was one of the better CSI episodes' or 'tonight's Big Brother was not nearly as annoying as usual'. It's all relative, I suppose.

just pillow talk - Of course you're right, but at the same time you're wrong. These films cost obscene amounts of money to make, and the more a film costs the more the investors are going to dumb it down and fill it with adverts to ensure a decent return. It's wrong, but it's also the way it works. Given a more worthy property to work with, they might be more respectful. But it's a comic, and a silly one at that, so they whored it for all it was worth. You're right about The Incredibles, too. That was a good one.

BAM!

Yup, until people stop flocking to this type of movie, the dumbing it down will continue...

Do you watch Big Brother? Be honest...

If you opened with Hal coming into power and that power ring turning his life around by giving him a much larger sense of responsibility then that would keep us interested in his character. Then you bring in Sinestro or Legion, strike that reverse it. You bring in Legion for the first fight after Legion kills Abin Sur. When Jon Stewart, GL Sinestro and a Guardian show up Hal has proven himself a GL by apprehending Legion. Hal leaves for training "boot camp" and we see Sinestro abusing his power. Sinestro starts taking down the GL and Hal fights him taking him down, but day Sinestro really wanted to be taken down so he could come into the yellow power ring that the GL kept locked up. Sinestro escapes as Oa is attacked by revenge seeking Manhunters. The GL Corp is beaten and in order to win Hal merges with his power battery. GL Corp win and Hal and Jon head home. End movie one.

Movie 2 Hal comes home to find that Sinestro has obliterated his city, his family and his life on earth. The GL Corp unable to stop Sinestro and say Star Saphire now have to deal with a grief insensed Hal who has started stealing power rings and batteries. Jon tries to stop him but can't. In the end Hal ends up destroying the GL Councel on Oa and gathering a hundred power batteries and rings. As Paralax, he merges the rings into one and places the power batteries around the city. Jon Stewart tries again to get Hal to listen to him and Hal ignores him telling him that it's something he has to do and that the city will need a guardian. In the end of this one Hal ressurects the entire city people and all at the cost of his own life. When he disappears all that is left is the one combined ring that hit the ground at the feet of the young Kyle Rayner who was in the city when it was wiped off the face of the earth. Kyle picks up the ring and puts it on. Kyle is now the last GL. End movie 2.

Movie 3 should be all about the chaos left behind. Kyle being able to make new rings gives one to Jon Stewart who takes Kyle to Oa. Kyle and Jon rebuild the GL Corps just in time for some other threat. (I'm open here, but something about the Sinestro Corps seems right. Severely underpowered and outnumbered the GL Corp need to find a way to stop them once and for all. All this film is really is a huge battle while either Kyle or Jon try to get help. One of the Guardians of Oa send them on a journey which brings back Hal Jordan as a more powerful GL and Kyle as Ion. Hal and Kyle recharge the Core Battery and all the GL get a power boost. GL's who had their batteries stolen by Hal find their rings recharged and a new battery at their disposal. GL's awaken all across the cosmos and arrive just in time to save Oa and defeat the Sinestro Corps. Kyle stays to help rebuild Oa, Jon heads off to train new GL Corps members and Hal heads home a hero once again. End of trilogy.

That's what I want to see.

Come here versatol, and let me give you a nice big hug!

Providing we skip the crap and thrust him into a role where he brings back Jordan while becoming Ion in the process the film version would be more than tolerable. Essentially I'd like to see it be a set Jordan-centric films about his rise, fall, and redemption.

Besides, Every time I see Aaraon Eckart I can't help but think he would be the perfect Hal Jordan and Ricky Ulman would make a great Kyle. Not so sure on who to get for Jon Stewart or Kilowog. Though honestly Ron Pearlman would be a good choice for the latter, I think.

Now give me a good choice for Jon Stewart.

It's very easy for a studio to make a film that will please kids for a couple of hours. But if care and attention is put into a film then it will be remembered for ever.

No-one can deny that The Incredibles is aimed at a younger audience than FF but is a far more intelligents film. It has real characterization and emotion not just pretty faces and jokes.

I was convinced Spidey 3 was going to be brilliant, there was no reason why it shouldn't have been but it was a bit of a cramped mess (although there is still genius within the mess).

I assumed Shrek 3 would be just as fun as 1 + 2 but the change of director has completely ruined it.

I thought Pirates 3 would have sorted out 2's problems by simply being the end peice of the trilogy and therefore having a strong fun narative, but again I was wrong.

It seems all my hopes are on Die Hard 4.0 and Transformers and if you asked me before summmer I would have put these two down as most likely to fail.

Oh well at least we have the Simpsons to look forward to. They can't fuck that up. Can they?

There has got to be someone else.

As for Guy... if he was in it... what about Travis Schuldt? I think he has the look and can be very funny at times and we all know Guy would be there as the jackoff who ends up getting hit by a moon and shouts, "I'm okay before he passes out."

My favorite kids film is Hayao Miyazaki's My Neighbour Totoro, I can not think of a more innocent, conflict free film. But it still has real emotion and depth.

I always laugh at the fact that Fight Club got made, if any suit at any studio saw that they would dissmiss it straight away, it undercuts their whole bellief system.

PUFF OF SMOKE

Rupert Murdoch: 'how dare you talk about me on a Talk Back!'

Can you say Oreos?

I was thinking the other day how they should re-do the movies Marvel logo intro by getting everone who has played all the character over the last few years and having them all fly down or whatever and stand together in one big group. Imagine, Toby Maguire to R Downey Jr all in one massive 10 second short.

Exactly the same cast as Oceans 11.

The money in the casino would have to be refered to as 'space-dollars' though.

I think the heist movies concept when done well never gets dull

O12 completley messed this up by doing the heists in flashbacks, having multiple heists etc.

It's an easy type of movie to get right.

Ok suggestions for Oceans The Next Generation?

Regardless of if you are nostalgic for the originals it does not take away that they are completely different kinds of movies.

Their story is based around a lot of characters spanning 20 odd yrs.

THe original where about a few characters going on 1 big adventure.

I just wanted them to feel like space-westerns like the original trilogy.

Whatever you argue you cannot say they did, they felt like a sci-fi version of the Godfather.

People don't stop and objectively think why a film doesn't work, they just blame it on something superficial.

...Fantastic Four was shit.

If it wasn't for you no-one would have ever found out.

Your like Fox Mulder for films Memflix

As to poor memflix, it's likely his employer has a policy for their employees, and it's got mem's sig on it, and he violated their policy. Something he signed as terms of his employment. Don't start telling him to sue. I was fired for taking wine coolers into a theater screening back in the day.

And then sleep with lots of girls whie telling them how much I rule.

Seriously the begining of Thankyou for Smoking is amazing, one minute your thinking this guy is about to get torn apart and the next he has everyone on his side.

just pillow talk - I consider myself a recovering Big Brother addict, although I do relapse from time to time. And then I feel dirty and used... I'm not sure where you are, though. Do you watch the UK BB?

To be honest, I don't really care all that much if people read comics. Like I said, that's their right. Knock ourselves out. What bothers me is the attitude of the fans who post here. Clearly, they love the source material that they feel is being bastardised for the big screen, but they're just going to have to grow up and accept that the world at large has very little respect for these properties and that the resulting films are not all going to be as deep and serious as they would like. To bring it back on topic (Fantastic Four), it seems utterly asinine to me that people are complaining that this deeply silly comic book was turned into a deeply silly film. What else did they expect?

As to great storytelling, there's a million examples. Some of them are even films. You can go from greek myths to Hamlet to Dickens to The Godfather to The Sopranos. Comics, maybe there's a few. I did like The Dark Knight Returns. Those closed off graphic novel type things seem to work a bit better than ongoing comics.

Also, what the fuck, scifimoviepage.com? Jessica Alba looks like a streetwalker? Fuck you. If the streetwalkers 'round my way looked like Jessica Alba, I would be flat out broke, because I would be paying for their services every damn day.

"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in!"

Man, that's one of the best quotes from The Godfather series and it's from the worst film.

Anyway, I am a prize chump, apparently. Maybe that explains my love of the Fantastic Four film. I am, sincerely, really very excited to see this new one. I'll have to try that patch - some kind of combined cure that will rid me of my need for Big Brother, stupid films and smoking - that would be good.

Are you excited about Zack Snyder's upcoming Watchmen film? I think that one could actually be pretty good. And not daft good like FF - proper good.

I'm looking forward to the Bourne Ultimatum myself.

I can understand how fans of the comic might be annoyed at the too sliveryness and whatnot, but this film is a dream come true for all fans of absurdity. All it needs now is a shark...

I feel very bad for Memflix, I enjoyed his review, and I hate to think he lost his job because of it. However, if you are going to post reviews of films you got to see pre-release because of your job, and you have a website with your real name on it, then this is the sort of thing that will happen. There is a reason people just send in a review to AICN with a fake name, they are covering their behinds from this kind of thing. Memflix was also trying to angle towards getting some sort of future paid critics job, which is why he did his website, with his name right on the bottom. Doesn't need Columbo after that.

You probably have an argument to get unemployment, but that is probably all I can see you getting. But hey, I hope some lawyer with big ambitions sees this thread, when you have big corporations there is always a chance you can squeeze them for money.

Whatever happens, good luck...

It's size v's a lack of ginger hair on the nipples.

Honestly, I think that gives me an advantage when watching these film versions, though. I don't care if they've messed up Doom, I don't care that Johnny Storm's hair is the wrong colour, and I certainly don't care that Jessica Alba is not right for the role. I think the expectations of fans (who want to see a more faithful, less silly adaptation) have spoiled their ability to enjoy these films. Fair enough.

P.S. Last? Am I last?