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Guillermo Del Toro speaks out on the cast of HELLBOY 2! There might be some unexpected faces here...

Me likey by Billyeveryteen	Jun 5th, 2007 01:51:31 PM
Very much.
2nd by skimn	Jun 5th, 2007 01:53:17 PM
!!
Looking forward to this. by Nice Marmot	Jun 5th, 2007 01:53:54 PM
We got the character intros out of the way, let's jump right into a new case! And let's ditch the friggin' powerless human agent.
John Hurt by Dimpy	Jun 5th, 2007 01:54:46 PM
Will he feature in a flashback, or return as a "spiritual mentor" a la Kenobi...?
Ok, I'm in !!!!!!!! by ludmir88	Jun 5th, 2007 01:55:55 PM
we need a trilogy!!!!!!
I love Raimi, but what by skimn	Jun 5th, 2007 01:57:00 PM
Del Toro could've brought to Spiderman 3???? Ron Perlman rocks, he was one of the best things about Hellboy.
Lobster Johnson? by RussianRocket	Jun 5th, 2007 01:57:45 PM
I really hope Del Toro writes him in... Then again he rocks a little too hard for just a cameo spot...
Hopefully... by blindambition238	Jun 5th, 2007 01:58:01 PM
I hope we get some flashbacks of kid Hellboy, maybe thats how Broom might figure in, maybe.
yeppers! by el-guappo	Jun 5th, 2007 01:58:03 PM
Are we hoping for a trilogy here?
Will it Be Called Hell-Man ? by kevinwillis.net	Jun 5th, 2007 01:58:58 PM
Ron Perlman's a senior citizen now. Does he get to be a boy forever? In which case, should it be called Peter Pan V: Final Countdown or something?
flashback Hurt or maybe undead Hurt? by just pillow talk	Jun 5th, 2007 02:01:12 PM
A trilogy would be cool... And I agree, no more powerless agents, unless they still want more red shirt Trek type guys...
Hey! What's this have to do with Hostel II? by mr.underwater	Jun 5th, 2007 02:01:23 PM
What site is this anyway? Kidding... Finally some fucking cool news on here. I kind of liked Meyers, he gave an audience entry point, and had a nice arc over the course of the first movie. Now of course, all his intro stuff is just wasted stock. Oh well...
I like Hellboy and Perlman by krushjudgement	Jun 5th, 2007 02:03:00 PM
But man Del Toro is so overated. I walked out of Pan's Labyrinth. I hated it that bad. Del Toro is not a good writer. He just knows how to create interesting FX.
2008 will be nice by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 5th, 2007 02:03:01 PM
John Rambo, Transformers 2-The Quickening, Hellboy 2, Craig Bond No. 2. Looking forward to it!
del Toro can do better than another HELLBOY by godoffireinhell	Jun 5th, 2007 02:10:18 PM
PAN'S LABYRINTH was proof of that. Shame he's wasting his time.
Will Hurt's cameo be a "pamcakes" flashback? by SpyGuy	Jun 5th, 2007 02:11:00 PM
I want to see a live-action scene where Broom introduces Lil' Hellboy to "pamcakes" so bad. It's gotta be, what, a two or three minute scene tops, so please make it happen, del Toro!
How bout they do it stop motion instead. by jimmy_009	Jun 5th, 2007 02:14:58 PM
Since that's the only way they could really capture the feel of the comics on film. The first one was a giant shrug.
Hellboy's arch nemisis should be... by SkeletonParty	Jun 5th, 2007 02:18:10 PM
two fat kids chest bumping! virtually undefeatable!
I liked the first one. by SkeletonParty	Jun 5th, 2007 02:19:51 PM
there were plot holes aplenty, but I liked the characters.
Best illustrated history of the Tuatha de Danaan EVER! by AnthonyNYC123	Jun 5th, 2007 02:21:47 PM
Jim Fitzpatrick did this back in the 1970s: http://tinyurl.com/27yz2k
mr.underwater by el-guappo	Jun 5th, 2007 02:23:04 PM
I hear that Hellboy gets his junk torn off at the end of Hellboy 2 so there is your Hostel tie-in.
I second tthe Pamcakes idea! by Borgnine JR	Jun 5th, 2007 02:23:21 PM
That's all the character piece they'd need. That bit would say it all. Then ACTION!
Give it to Christopher Nolan! by Stalin vs Predator	Jun 5th, 2007 02:28:31 PM
I need an explanation of how a grown demon could realistically exist in this world and fight supernatural crime. I'd also love to see 30 minutes of nothing but scenes showing how Hellboy creates his holy water bullets and captures sunlight into those other bullets. Del Toro never explained that realistically... what a hack!
This could be great! by kevred	Jun 5th, 2007 02:28:56 PM
The first Hellboy pretty well nailed the look and feel of everything already. Now we have del Toro with all the cachet from Pan's Labyrinth, and a storyline that takes that myth vs. reality concept to a new level. Not to mention a bunch of incredibly cool characters. I'm really looking forward to it!
Where is my "At the Mountains of Madness"??? by Squashua	Jun 5th, 2007 02:32:18 PM
Come on!
Hellboy 1 sucked so... by SteffanLongdon	Jun 5th, 2007 02:34:02 PM
I don't have much faith in Del Toro's Hellboy 2. I saw what he done with Blade 2, completey sucked compared to #1.
Hellboy 1 not very good by richier123	Jun 5th, 2007 02:44:21 PM
Not trying to piss anyone off, but the first one was pretty bad. I never read the comics though, so is it possible that that's why all you guys love it and I thought it was so bad? Just curious...
HELLBOY was basically SHIT!.. by connor187	Jun 5th, 2007 02:45:29 PM
Didnt really like it, thought it was way too corny, even for a comic book movie. One scene that really pissed me off was when I think Hellboy was following that Blair bitch across the rooftops, trying to find out if she liked him? Fucking stupid, nearly turned it off.....Must do better Del Torro
Hellboy was shit? YOUR SHIT! by IAmLegolas	Jun 5th, 2007 02:50:07 PM
Hit the bricks, pal! (sincerely Alec Balwin)
Hellboy - top 3 comic movies of all time... by Rabid Jake	Jun 5th, 2007 02:51:11 PM
You can't be a Del Toro fan if you didn't like Hellboy. I rank it among the best Comic adaptations of all time: 1. Batman (w/ Keaton-Nicholson) 2. Spiderman 2 3. Hellboy Nuff said.
Hellboy was the BOMB!!! by tehgreekhammer	Jun 5th, 2007 02:51:19 PM
Seriosuly it was one of the better Comic Book movies. Was it perfect? No, but they got enough of the core elements right that it really didnt matter. Now that the origin is out of the way, this movie should kick all kinds of ass. And I dont mean that in a MichaelBay/Transformers plant kind of way either.
No David Hyde Pierce? Abe recast? by Rabid Jake	Jun 5th, 2007 02:54:50 PM
That will be a noticable difference if one of the main characters has a different voice. A little disappointing.
Hellboy 1 was fantastic in my book by isispop	Jun 5th, 2007 02:55:13 PM
Yeah...this is comin from a comic fan, but so what? I'm a fairly harsh critic of my comic characters gettin weak/halfass treatments in movies these days. In the case of Hellboy I had also never read that particular book...so I basically had no idea what to expect goin in to see #1. I thought it rocked. I personally can't wait for #2, esp w/all the disappointing efforts with the most recent batch of comic based movies.
Hellboy 1 by jimmy_009	Jun 5th, 2007 02:55:44 PM
First off, it didn't feel like a Hellboy movie, although they did make Hellboy look about as good as you possibly could in a live action film. The movie didn't have any of the gothic feel of the comic, it felt like they plunked Hellboy in the X-Men universe. That was my main complaint. I would like to see Lobster Johnson on film at some point. Also, Blade 2 was vastly suprerior to the first one IMO. I have faith Del Toro will make at least a good movie out of this, but I still think stop motion is the only way to do Hellboy justice.
Recall: No David Hyde Pierce? by Rabid Jake	Jun 5th, 2007 02:56:45 PM
I should read more carefully - the cast list didn't say specifically that Abe's voice is recast. Although Hyde Pierce is also not confirmed.
Explain to me that.... by connor187	Jun 5th, 2007 02:59:43 PM
Fucking stupid scene that I referred to. The one with Hellboy following that skinny bitch he is in love with? I mean what the fuck? How can one of your so called best comic book movies survive after that silly fucking scene?......god I hate that scene.
Hellboy WAS shit by DarfurOnTheRocks	Jun 5th, 2007 03:00:26 PM
I am sorry, despite how much this site wants to push Hellboy, the movie was simply not very good. The characterization of the "cool" demon was forced. And the final battle was so anti-climatic that it was a huge disappointment. Blade II was a far better movie by comparision.
Roger the Homunculus by SamBlackChvrch21	Jun 5th, 2007 03:01:34 PM
They totally need to include Roger, I think he would fit in as a bit character very nicely.
Blade II by Halfbreedqueen	Jun 5th, 2007 03:05:04 PM
was better, and is del toro's best action flick (so no devil's backbone pans comparisons.) it's also the best blade flick.
but it wasn't good by gomez33	Jun 5th, 2007 03:06:42 PM
That fucking hellboy movie was complete shit. Those stupid fucking things that kept multiplying were fucking awful. I haven't read the comic but doesn't the red fucker have any decent enemies?!
jimmy_009, I second that on the feel of the 1st one. by Nice Marmot	Jun 5th, 2007 03:16:14 PM
I popped in and out of the first movie w/ the different settings. A lot of them just didn't feel "Hellboy" at all but there were occasional ones that were awesome. The characters were all money though. I'm thinking the 2nd one will be what I expected out of the 1st one.
Hellboy was piss-poor. by jenkis	Jun 5th, 2007 03:22:35 PM
Like Sam Raimi, Guillermo is best kept away from CGI (although Pan's Labyrinth had far better CGI than Hellboy). The only good thing about HB was staring at the beautiful Agent Myers. And now he's gone, I don't think I'll bother.
We Want Lobster Johnson by OctEgon	Jun 5th, 2007 03:24:13 PM
Del Toro wanted Bruce Campbell as Lobster Johnson, but Mignola wouldn't have it. "Boooooo," I say! "Boo!"
The Hellboy movie was WEAK. by 11ZOMBIES	Jun 5th, 2007 03:27:35 PM
I will not be watching Hellboy 2: Devil Rape or whatever the hell the name is. The first one was overblown, overdesigned, overwritten crap. Most of Mignola's minimalist designs for the movie(which were brilliant) were REJECTED by del Toro in favor of hideously overdesigned crap, check out the Art of Hellboy movie book that was released along with the film. Ron Perlman has a great HB voice, but his interpretation of the character(he's an adolescent, he says in interviews) is ALL WRONG. "Aw crap" is not HB's catch phrase, he's only said it a couple of times in the comics. Selma Blair is AWFUL as Liz, just completely annoying. Abe- again, overdesigned and badly used. Don't get me started on the pantywaist FBI agent, you remember, the one who had to REMIND HB that he's a hero at the end of the flick? In the comics, HB is a hero because he CHOOSES to be. And he never needed a little agent man to remind him. A poor, poor film with a terrible sounding upcoming sequel.
This Could Be a Great Story by Mr. Winston	Jun 5th, 2007 03:29:00 PM
If only del Toro could get away from writing - at which he's awful - this could really be a fantastic story. He's a hell of a director and a visual storyteller, but on the page he's a total mess. And that was the biggest problem with the script - it was a great, fun concept that was so terribly executed that it didn't make any sense. Maybe he'll get his wits about him and bring someone else in. Not by coincidence, that was the problem with the first movie as well.
More Hellboy please!!! by Frank Black	Jun 5th, 2007 03:38:12 PM
Hellboy forever! One of the best modern comics and a great way to explore mythology with a new twist! The Hellboy video game for 360 is coming out soon too so it is a great year to be a fan.
tuatha....danaann by the beef	Jun 5th, 2007 03:43:12 PM
I haven't read the HELLBOY comics, but those two words remind me of words I've heard before....what the fuck is it???!! WILLOW!!!!! that's it Is Mike Mignola a big WILLOW fan?
Fantastic Four 2 by MikeHoncho	Jun 5th, 2007 03:46:25 PM
I don't know if this has been posted yet and I know this doesn't belong in this talkback but Fantastic Four 2 got a PG rating.
Guillermo has only become better as a filmaker by RokurGepta	Jun 5th, 2007 04:00:27 PM
I have no doubt that Hellboy 2, will be a fantabulous film. If any of you have doubt, then you're gay, and you frak cats....
Plus "Savage" Steve Holland is back! by Boondock Devil	Jun 5th, 2007 04:06:10 PM
Just read on the Hollywoodreporter.com that he's finally making another movie. Hoo and ray! And I also couldn't be more than happy that Hellboy 2 is finally on track. Happy news day today.
What about David Hyde Pierce?!? by phaedrus007	Jun 5th, 2007 04:10:57 PM
Eh?
Boondock.. by skimn	Jun 5th, 2007 04:20:02 PM
"Savage" Steve has been trolling at Nickeloeon lately directing Ned's Declassified, a kind of live action cartoon, that I can see fit his sensibility.
I wanna hear the magic word: Eli Roth by justin s	Jun 5th, 2007 04:22:22 PM
the important question is, how does this relate to eli roth? ... is eli roth co-directing this? did eli roth write this? will eli roth have a cameo, and if so will harry have one as well?
A full redesign would work... by 11ZOMBIES	Jun 5th, 2007 04:37:31 PM
...along with a new director and creative team. Except for Mignola, of course. And they could actually use some of his designs, that would be nice.
how about a monster house sequel? by jig98	Jun 5th, 2007 04:45:37 PM
monster condo! eli roth could direct and guilllermo could exec.produce. yeah, that could work. a hellboy sequel doesn't sound that compelling because the first one they tried to make more as a comedy than a dark comic book adapation. although there were funny moments and some well-done action movies. and could someone tell me how "the monster squad" is a cult thing?
Loved the first one, fuck you haters with a rusty stick by quantize	Jun 5th, 2007 04:46:32 PM
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Phewww, at least Eli Roth isn't directing it by lloydfromentourage	Jun 5th, 2007 04:46:51 PM
You know there's a lot of good news in between the Eli Roth jokes. It all involves other people making movies other than him.
Does anyone have to Director's Cut of Hellboy? by Turd Furgusen	Jun 5th, 2007 04:46:57 PM
I'm debating if I should buy it.
Daniel Craig = Lobster Johnson by jimmy_009	Jun 5th, 2007 04:55:01 PM
He'd be cool.
Abe ... by Hellmistress	Jun 5th, 2007 05:04:21 PM
... will be played by Doug Jones, as in the first film, and Doug will also provide the voice of the character, as he has done in the Hellboy Animated movies and the Hellboy video game. David Hyde Pierce will not be returning. And Lobster Johnson will not be making an appearance in the films.
Dotrice and Perlman, together again. by Uncle Stan	Jun 5th, 2007 05:15:42 PM
Maybe we can get a theatrical addition to the Beauty and the Beast series one of these days.
That's supposed to be "the" Director's Cut. by Turd Furgusen	Jun 5th, 2007 05:20:38 PM
Man, I need to leave work. Anyway, I would appreciate anyone's opinion that has bought the Director's Cut and think's it worth while. Or thinks it's a pile of poop. Thanks again.
David hyde pierce is good in "treasure planet"... by jig98	Jun 5th, 2007 05:35:20 PM
i just watched it the other day. another underrated and overlooked animated gem. it's also funny to hear his voice in the simpsons episode he did with frasier. but his voice was kind of tacked on for abe sapien. i would've liked to have heard ben stiller as abe sapien instead. that would've sounded good. or not.
What makes a man a man... by can-D	Jun 5th, 2007 05:52:25 PM
Not to watch this crap! Oh I said crap, get it ;) I'm a Del Toro fan and hellboy comic fan (even liked blade 2) but man was this film so disappointing. Everything looked cool but the script oh my. Anyway it's only my opinion.
Hopefully better than the first... by Forsakyn	Jun 5th, 2007 06:13:42 PM
I'm a fan of Perlman so I hope the second Hellboy is a considerable step up from the first one - I didn't find the first film to be all that great, unfortunately.
The director's cut by mr.underwater	Jun 5th, 2007 06:15:22 PM
Has like two extra scenes of Meyer's and Liz playing footsie. Not worth buying if you already own the regular cut.
Hey connor 187....it is called "FUN" by CarmillaVonDoom	Jun 5th, 2007 06:33:48 PM
Maybe you've heard of it?? Ah, just go back to wanking off on your Venom and Punisher books. HELLBOY 1 was a GREAT adaptation...if you think it doesn't work, yet you haven't read the COMIC....well, I guess your opinion means about as much as JACK and SHIT combined!
Maybe Guillermo can use computers... by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2007 06:39:40 PM
...to fix Selma's hairline. That is probably a cruel thing to say about an otherwise reasonably attractive person, but it seriously looks like her roots are trying to conquer her forehead, and something about it freaks me out. If I was around her, she'd probably catch me sneaking up on her with a Norelco shaver daily, trying to catch her unaware and fix it the old fasioned way. ***** Oh, and maybe Guillermo could do us all and added favor and make this installment GOOD. That would be nice after the snoozefest that was the first film. Actually, they got Hellboy himself right. Everything else was wrong, especially the villain, Rasputin. He was no more Rasputin-like than the bad guy in BLADE 3 was Dracula-like. For some reason, Del Toro and Goyer like to see bald, oiled, barechested 'bears' as villains in their supernatural action movies. They look like they should be offering young, naive men Ecstasy tabs instead of trying to take over the world. But, to each his own.
That is a cool myth. by superninja	Jun 5th, 2007 06:41:25 PM
Now if they will just fix Abe Sapien. He's supposed to be like Murtaugh to Hellboy's Riggs, not some psychic ninny. It's almost as bad as the neutering they gave Dr. Doom, but not quite. Ron Perlman, of course, rules as Hellboy and Blair is cute as Liz. Hopefully the script and effects will be an improvement over the last (although they done Hellboy good).
Hellboy was really the only good thing about by superninja	Jun 5th, 2007 06:47:17 PM
the first movie. They got the character right, the story was just lame. It needed to be more atmospheric (like the source material) and less like Blade.
HB by huggerorange	Jun 5th, 2007 07:03:00 PM
the first hellboy fucking kicked ass for me no complaints here...it certainly didnt hurt that Selma Blair is so fucking hot. I suppose it was a little like blade 2 visual-style wise.. but that movie was even better to me. Both are my two favorite comic book movies so far..cant wait for Hellboy 2.
HB by huggerorange	Jun 5th, 2007 07:03:02 PM
the first hellboy fucking kicked ass for me no complaints here...it certainly didnt hurt that Selma Blair is so fucking hot. I suppose it was a little like blade 2 visual-style wise.. but that movie was even better to me. Both are my two favorite comic book movies so far..cant wait for Hellboy 2.
Good news is that the FBI agent character isn't back. by superninja	Jun 5th, 2007 07:12:07 PM
Now just fix Abe, please! I love Abe in the comics. Get rid of David Hyde Pierce and make him Hellboy's partner!
Myers may have felt bland in the first flick but by Demosthenes2	Jun 5th, 2007 07:14:12 PM
I think the universe benefits from having a "straight" man just to offset everything else. I don't know the comics at all so I don't know if any of the new characters will fill that void; certainly doesn't sound like anyone on this list.
"VINCENT" and "FATHER" together again!!! by Master Bruce	Jun 5th, 2007 07:14:48 PM
How cool is it that Roy Dotrice who played "Father" to Ron Perlman's "Vincent" on the 80's series "Beauty and the Beast" is in this film playing King Balor?!!! Herej's hoping these 2 fine actors have some scenes together. Now, if they could only get a cameo by Linda "Catherine" Hamilotn too...B&B fans would cream themselves!
looking forward to more hellboy by palewook	Jun 5th, 2007 07:49:27 PM
1st one was fun, better than most of the marvel/dc movies.
I quite enjoyed the first Hellboy by slone13	Jun 5th, 2007 07:50:51 PM
I look forward to the second
Demos, honestly the straight man in the comics by superninja	Jun 5th, 2007 07:51:07 PM
is supposed to be Abe. He's very dry and has a great sense of humor, he's not a freak. Wonderful character that they really botched.
Yay for Bros.! by King_Knut	Jun 5th, 2007 08:11:57 PM
I ain't queer for Luke Goss or nuffink, but I'm glad Del Toro's giving him another shot. He was possibly the best thing in Blade II (outside of the maw design and Danny John Jules being in a major movie), and I don't think he got enough attention for his role. I hope GDT once again brings out the best in him, as I genuinely believe that man has a great performance in him, given the right director. Unlike, say, Orblando, out of whom not even Scott or Jackson have managed to get anything resembling a good turn.
del toro did made the finest fairy and faun ever by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2007 09:07:55 PM
and him going back to those magical forest creatures is going to be amazing. just keep that ugly clumsy toad far away. and he's a fantastic writer as proved by pan's. and he made the best chelsea-grin i have ever seen.
the beef-Tuatha de Dannan by Bagel13	Jun 5th, 2007 09:19:32 PM
the beef-Tuatha de Dannan are the old Irish gods, Lucas glomed the name for Willow. The first movie was eh. It deviated too far from the comic and too many logic holes, even for a fantasy film, to make it enjoyable. Ron Perlman nailed the movie version of HB, bitter about being locked away & hidden for 60 years, but the character wasn't close enough to the comic. Movie Abe was terrible, he seemed like someone that would snap in a stiff wind instead of someone that could survive being thrown on to sharp rocks by OgoPogo. And the HB-Liz romance? Out of place and creepy. If they can get into the story and we see lots of Mignola style beasties it may be OK. Here's hoping. Donald
Here is the problem with the first one by PotSmokinAlien	Jun 5th, 2007 09:25:43 PM
and i am not a reader of the comic so sorry if this flies in the face of whatever fans like about it but--- your protagonist can not be some taciturn asshole the entire movie, it made me feel like i was watching what hollywood's idea of the type of a guy a nerd would relate to and i did not relate to him in the slightest. forgive me for enjoying having fun and not taking my life so crushingly seriously. in fact, that whole movie sucked.
Perlman is my hero by ArcadianDS	Jun 5th, 2007 10:28:43 PM
Can anyone name a single project that Perlman was involved in, in which he absolutely did a horrible job? I sure can't. He absolutely steals entire movies away from people, and has got to be one of the most under-rated actors of the past 50 years. The guy takes mere walk-on roles and turns them into spotlight performances. I think he should play Harry in the AICN Movie. Use his 'Enemy at the Gates' teeth, too.
Abes character by GIRv2	Jun 5th, 2007 10:57:33 PM
is a lot closer to true in Sword of Storms. "Ah, you made the noobie face".
But by McClane_Corleone	Jun 5th, 2007 11:24:18 PM
But will there be dead raped deer?
I thought they were gonna use Universal's monsters by Doc_Strange	Jun 5th, 2007 11:38:47 PM
What happened? I thought we were gonna so ol' HB mix it up with the likes of Wolfman, Mummy, and Dracula. What gives? Oh yeah, they made a HORRIBLE movie called Van Helsing a few years back. Well there goes that idea.....
Why Hellboy 1 could have been better...... by Doc_Strange	Jun 5th, 2007 11:48:29 PM
They should have put more variety into the film. The martial arts Nazi guy was just generic and cliche. The baddie wasn't anything I hadn't seen before. The monster Sammy or whatever his name was just came back again and again. The movie itself didn't have much in terms of surprises. I think it had some great moments in it but overall needed something to push it over the top. Best scene in the film in my opinion was when Hellboy's spying on Liz and the kid comes up to him and he's like "SHHHHHH!!! I'm on a mission." That was hilarious to me. Then when he throws a rock at that dude. Best things about the film: Character development, Ron Perlman, John Hurt, Jeffrey Tambor. Worst things about the film: Dragging scenes that didn't advance the story, the resurrecting, rubbery monster, the bad guy, the Nazi guy with the mask.
I'd really love to see them mirror some of the mood by superninja	Jun 6th, 2007 12:31:56 AM
and lighting of the panels in the comic books. And you are right, Doc, if you are going to make a movie with Chthulu you need to go visually insane.
Ron Perlman should be the next Q/A subject on the tbs by CarmillaVonDoom	Jun 6th, 2007 12:32:37 AM
Bruce pretty much got everything off of his chest already imo.
Cannot wait to see this... by RevSick	Jun 6th, 2007 02:14:27 AM
...the first Hellboy is one of my far and away favorite Comic to film adaptations and am too excited to see this one! Doug's work is always incredible to watch, he's one of the few reasons I even remotley want to see FF2.
Strictly speaking... by Heleno	Jun 6th, 2007 03:17:20 AM
The Tuatha de Danann is the name of the race, not the name of the myth, but whatever. Very excited about seeing Irish mythology on screen - maybe it'll help me one day persuade someone to make the Tain. And rumour has it that del Toro is filming at the Giant's Causeway, which will rock well hard.
Cant wait ! by knifeandfork	Jun 6th, 2007 06:26:03 AM
Del toro+ monsters+ Hell boy+bigger budget = Good times ahead! Cant wait!
First HB was weak by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Jun 6th, 2007 07:19:03 AM
Well it was! Silly re-generating monster that you cant kill....oh wait, you can kill it right at the end. Bit Like Batman Begins magic microwaves that pass through the bags of water called people but gets the water surrounded by metal in the sewers below. I honestly shouldnt be able to spot things like that in movies. Its just plain, lazy writing.
bagel 13 by the beef	Jun 6th, 2007 08:25:12 AM
ahhhhhhh muchas gracias
Hellboy rocks by bender7	Jun 6th, 2007 09:41:31 AM
I actually liked the first one. It wasn't fantastic as it could have been, but it stands the test of time as a good moive. Mainly from Perlman's performance and the nice direction. Still, hopefully this will be the Hellboy movie fans have been waiting for. Oh and ArcadianDS, Perlman is awesome but he did appear in a Uwe Boll movie remember
mr.underwater by Turd Furgusen	Jun 6th, 2007 10:19:01 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the Director's Cut. I'll save my cash and get the regular version. I was told by others that there were a lot of "extras" worth the money and time.
dude, I want. by samsquanch	Jun 6th, 2007 10:58:23 AM
When?
Oh, well the whole director's cut set by mr.underwater	Jun 6th, 2007 12:35:02 PM
Has more "making of" featurettes than any human could possibly watch or care about. But as for the cut of the movie itself, a couple scenes of Meyers and Liz making goo-goo eyes. One scene of villains in lair going "Mu-ha-ha." Not much else.
I too liked Hellboy 1... by football	Jun 6th, 2007 02:24:05 PM
... and don't get the nerd hate on why it's not liked. Ok, maybe the comedy didn't always work with the darker elements of the story such as the nazi guy with the knives... who I absolutely loved... but when it worked it out spun spiderman 2 by a long way. Judging by some of the comments I've read recently it's safe to say you're going to luv Transformers which looks total shit to me, but won't give Del Toro a break, who let's face it, is 10x the director that Bay will ever be. Can't wait for HB2.
Good call by Geddlee	Jun 6th, 2007 04:29:04 PM
On Jim Fitzpatrick, he of the classic Thin Lizzy album cover, 'Jailbreak'. Fitzpatrick rules Celtic mythology art. HB was good, just needed to have more variety with the monsters; that hurt the story overall.
Shoulda brought back Myers by Drath	Jun 6th, 2007 06:43:36 PM
I thought he was brought in as the new Broom. It seems like a betrayal to have Broom pass the torch to him as Hellboy's friend/confidant/human ally and then not bring him back. I know the character was created for the movie so not many will agree with me because they felt he was forced on them as another Hollywood cliche for the masses, but I think his not coming back makes Myers's presence in the first one worse for me. If Jeffrey Tambor isn't back either then shit on everything.

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