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Helgeland Now One Of Ridley Scott's Merry Men!! He's Revising NOTTINGHAM!!

How you mention Helgeland by JackRabbitSlim	Jun 5th, 2007 06:11:35 AM
with no mention of "LA Confidential" is beyond me.
As long as it's better by terrytips	Jun 5th, 2007 06:13:36 AM
than the crappy BBC Robin Hood.
Wonder whta got him the job to rewrite? by THE KNIGHT	Jun 5th, 2007 06:22:53 AM
Looking forward to another round of Scott/Crowe
We're men! We're men in tights (tight tights)! by detinue	Jun 5th, 2007 06:24:03 AM
Mel Brooks said it all.
The Scott/Crowe thing is great by JackRabbitSlim	Jun 5th, 2007 06:30:09 AM
but do they really need to do yet another rehash of Robin Hood? What - was it that or the 44th remake of Oliver Twist? What happened to the talk of the War of the Barbary Pirates?
Helgeland is far better at writing. by Jakes Nel	Jun 5th, 2007 06:33:44 AM
I liked Payback, but all his other directorial efforts were pretty lame. When he's on top form writing, though, we get great films like L.A. Confidential and Mystic River. Hope his efforts on this pay off.
He was a bandit, I suppose by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 5th, 2007 06:40:52 AM
So portraying him as an actual villain seems like an okay idea. My only problem is, does the world need yet another iteration of Robin Hood? Him and Tarzan can fuck off, as far as I'm concerned. P.S. What the hell is wrong with George Clooney and Andy Garcia's faces in that spinney Ocean's Thirteen ad over on the side? Those are, clearly, robot substitutes of some sort.
Scott is brilliant, Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut)- by Dr_Zoidberg	Jun 5th, 2007 06:50:13 AM
is just fucking ace. I love that film despite Orlando Bloom, who is awful but just manages to rise to blandness where needed that he kind of doesn't hurt the film too much. But he is surrounded by such an awesome cast that it doesn't matter. That film is full of modern day thinking but it's just, probably Scott's best film in 10 years, and that's saying something too because Gladiator and Black Hawk Down are great too.
Hope it's better than Gladiator. by lost.rules	Jun 5th, 2007 07:05:38 AM
Alot better.
Hope it's better than Legend. by lost.rules	Jun 5th, 2007 07:06:12 AM
Alot better.
But will it have... by Darth Busey	Jun 5th, 2007 07:16:08 AM
...two-sworded Saracens in it?
Dr Zoidberg by kwisatzhaderach	Jun 5th, 2007 07:42:06 AM
Kingdom of Heaven Dir Cut is awesome. The only problem is Orlando Bloom. Recast him and you'd have a classic. Oh and 1492 is awesome. Way overdue for a decent DVD release Mr Scott. Please?
Please don't make this movie by DrManhattansUnit	Jun 5th, 2007 07:46:30 AM
Enough with the revisionism! Robin Hood was a hero, the Sherriff was bad, and that's that.
Has anyone been to Nottingham recently? by newc0253	Jun 5th, 2007 07:58:16 AM
it's a shithole.
Nottingham a Shithole???? by alucardvsdracula	Jun 5th, 2007 08:07:01 AM
Okay, so the gun and gang crime is out of hand - but then it used to be in Manchester until a few years back - but it has a lot going for it. The city centre of Nottingham is great for shopping and has a decent tram system in place. There's some great pubs too, my fav being The Pit and The Pendulum: a gothic horror style theme bar, way better than yet another Irish theme pub. But, you're right, the gang culture in the city and around the UK is a worry.
I'd like to see a GOOD Robin Hood film... by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2007 08:08:58 AM
...rather than some bullshit reimagining of it. I mean, the only good Robin Hood movie is still the Errol Flynn film. PRINCE OF THIEVES was a memorable part of my movie experience, but it's not a good movie, and I've been waiting for someone in Hollywood to take the character seriously. As a huge fan of the British 'Robin of Sherwood' series, I'd much rather see them take that kind of approach than this NOTTINGHAM thing, which sounds more like a 'What If...?' than a movie. Here's hoping that Helgeland can pull this one out of the shitheap it's otherwise destined to be in.
The Greeks? What the Fuck is that about? by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 08:13:01 AM
Huh? Wha ? Eh? The Greeks invading a British castle in 1191? I take it this is from the largely ignore English / Greek war that raged between 1104 and 1674? The Greeks famously attacked British castles by flying over them on winged horses and dropping Gorgon heads into the Keeps. Then the army of Minotaurs would act as a seige machine while the centaurs would act as cavalry and encircle the camp in a pincer movement. I think the most famous of these battles was when King Arthur fought King Madeupeonisis in Avalon with only the Knights of the Round Table, Robin Hood, Braveheart, Dick Turpin and Judge Dredd at his side where Madeupeonisis had the feared and terrible 300 Harryhausens on his side. Many a harpie, skeleton, giant walrus, minoton and realistic baboon tasted British steel that day! The Greeks???? I have your first script revision right here for you!!!
Robin and Marian by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 08:14:53 AM
Is a great Robin Hood film and one that dares to tell of a fairly sympathetic Sheriff played by the magnificent Robert Shaw. I don't mind the idea of this so long as they don't have the fucking Greeks invading Britain!
Perhaps at the end by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 08:16:51 AM
The Sheriff and Robin can team up to stop the invasion by the Chinese / Aboriginal / Mole Men axis of Evil of 1137. They then learn to respect each other and come to work together as in Lethal Weapon!
Also... by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2007 08:17:48 AM
...I'd prefer that Ridley Scott stay away from Robin Hood, and pretty much everything else. He's made a few good movies (this category does not include the execrable GLADIATOR), but overall, he's one of the worst 'style over substance' directors in history.
Samson K, I like the way you think! by CreasyBear	Jun 5th, 2007 08:17:59 AM
But if your script idea doesn't make it, I'll still look forward to a Helgeland-scripted, Ridley Scott-directed action movie, whether the Errol Flynn version is insurmountable or not. If a man can script Man on Fire and L.A. Confidential, he's automatically forgiven for a few misses here or there.
I agree... the Greeks??? by Kid Z	Jun 5th, 2007 08:18:14 AM
Are they all going to have CGI 6-pack abs? When the hell did Greece invade England? What... was their plan to destroy all the pubs and replace them with coffee shops and diners?
Nottingham by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 08:18:38 AM
I lived in Loughborough for a while and while there met my mums cousin who lived in Nottingham. Nice woman but when we went for a meal it turned out that her eyes were bigger than her belly! She had a terrible thyroid problem - it was like eating across from Marty Feldman!
Thanks Creasybear by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 08:22:44 AM
Actually from the moment that I typed my full stop on the heroic tale of the British against the Harryhausens I have had sixteen phonecalls from Stephen Sommers - if I don't pass the idea on then I am doomed to see this idea as his next film! Hegeland thankfully is good in most every thing - I hated The Sin Eater and I think that was his. Hopefully he will discard this arse about Greek Invasions!
Yes... It's a good thing... by Kid Z	Jun 5th, 2007 08:24:07 AM
... the sturdy, no-nonsense English fended off that Greek invasion in the 11th century. Otherwise, history would've been changed forever. Like, American tourists would still bitch about how bad the food is... but it'd be gyros and baklava they'd be bitching about.
On a serious note by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 08:30:46 AM
It depresses the Hell out of me when a script with such a shitty opening (where one scene sees a man being hit in the face by an axe - doesn't mention if he is British or Greek) can get optioned! Seriously how would it go down with American studios script buyers if their next script biopic had George Custer being killed by an angry tribe of Lithuanians???? It wouldn't but a script by two people who can't collectively find out that Greece is nowhere near Britain and wasn't at war with Britain and never invaded Britain can get a script optioned? That is a bit depressing really!
I just sad in the "Hercules"talkback, a few days ago... by DerLanghaarige	Jun 5th, 2007 08:44:49 AM
...that it has been a while since we had our last Robin Hood. And POW! There it is!
Samson K, they're working on a sequel right now... by Uncapie	Jun 5th, 2007 08:51:27 AM
...its called, "Robin Hood Vs. The Martians." Yes, martians land and try to take over Nottingham. I'm certainly excited about this epic event.
Uncapie - that's okay! by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 09:00:55 AM
Because that actually did happen! The scene where Little John trips over a Martian Tripod with brute strength and a quarterstaff alone will be worth the admission price alone! And on a side note I would be less incensed if it was a purely fantastical enemy like Martians, Vampires, Dinosaurs, zombies or lesbians!
Robin Hood and the Lesbians by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 09:02:36 AM
I own about four different versions of that anyway! Robin Hood: Prince of Muffs being the best one!
Revisionist ? by Dude_gimme_tabs	Jun 5th, 2007 09:18:22 AM
Revisionist history of a made up fable? Impossible, n'est pa ?
KoH Commentary? by saintaugust	Jun 5th, 2007 09:19:04 AM
Anyone hear the Scott Commentary on the Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut? On it, Scott talks about doing a Robin Hood film as a sequel of sorts to Kingdom of Heaven - with Iain Glen reprising his role as King Richard.
Greeks by ledsyrus	Jun 5th, 2007 09:24:43 AM
Yeah that gave me pause for a moment. But I guess the script actually starts off- like Prince of Thieves IIRC- in a Crusaders' castle abroad. As for Nottingham.. well I was born there, and now I work there. But I don't live there, or want to. So make of that what you will.
Crusades Based Prologue by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 09:37:48 AM
It could be - and I did think of that but to consider it too much would have got in the way of a good rant! Even so the Greeks still don't make an awful lot of sense! The Turks yeah! The Cypriots yeah but not the Greeks!
back to the Sherwood Forest at last by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2007 09:42:12 AM
I have yet to see a good Robin Hood movie, apart from the Disney one, it might have been done a lot but not well. And who better than Scott? No way he's "style over substance", about his only flaw is Orlando Bloom. Helgeland is a great creator too. I just hope they portray Hood as a villain with noble intentions and not some stereotipical evil archer.
'Robin and Marian' by Mr Gorilla	Jun 5th, 2007 09:50:35 AM
...is worth a peek. Stars Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn, with Robert Shaw. Very gentle film, but quite grown up. Lovely sense of place too. I wanna go back home and see it now.
Helgeland's involvement doesn't exactly excite me. by a goonie	Jun 5th, 2007 10:02:54 AM
I love Ridley Scott and will always enjoy the idea of a new Robin Hood flick, so this one sounds like lots of fun. But as for Helgeland and your introduction of him, Merrick, well, ugh. If you ask me, "Payback" was alright, a decent but ultimately forgettable movie; "A Knight's Tale" absolutely fucking blew in every meaning of the word; and "Man on Fire" was a headache-inducing two-and-a-half hour trailer. Let's hope he has something of some quality to offer this project.
Who are the best?????????????? by SteffanLongdon	Jun 5th, 2007 10:03:53 AM
Scott/Crowe, Scorcese/DiCaprio or Burton/Depp??? I'd probably say Scorcese/DiCaprio over the last few movies.
Um... Scorcese/De Niro, me thinks. by Dwide Shrewd	Jun 5th, 2007 10:29:41 AM
And why the Gladiator hate? Was it the Best Picture that year? No. But it's still a pretty fucking good film. Better than Hostel: Teil Zwei, anyway, but I digress...
Scott's biggest waste of time, since G.I. Jane. by Nice Marmot	Jun 5th, 2007 10:29:46 AM
Can't believe this man will have directed 3 movies in a row(if this comes out before American Gangster)that I could care less about seeing. Come on man, you're not getting younger!
SteffanLongdon by Nice Marmot	Jun 5th, 2007 10:37:37 AM
The answer is d)Carpenter/Russell. And for Christ's sake, you list Scorcese/DiCaprio and not Scorcese/DeNiro?????
Samson_K... by ledsyrus	Jun 5th, 2007 10:41:22 AM
While it does at first sight seem a little odd- lets give the writers some credit. They wouldn't have put Greeks in without at least leafing through a text book first. Personally I suspect this has something to do with Constantinople- then part of the Byzantine Empire (strongly Greek). Wikipedia it yourself, but looks to me like there were clashes with Crusaders. Mind you, some studio suit will probably insist on changing this to something that's probably a lot less historically accurate, with the argument- "No! You can't use Greeks! That'll just confuse people! People are stupid! Lets turn it into a battle with Ancient Egyptians instead! That sounds much more believable!" And who will we have to blame eh? ;)
TOO MERRY ! ! ! by Pound Sand	Jun 5th, 2007 10:42:11 AM

t.piper.gates. here's an arrowhead pointed at you. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Jun 5th, 2007 10:52:42 AM
Don't mock my username and lifestyle choices. I deserve to be a villain in any and every Ridley Scott movie. I shoot to the left and I shoot to the right, because I shoot in glorious STEREO!
Ledsyrus by Samson_K	Jun 5th, 2007 10:56:45 AM
Yeah - I used to know a lot about the Crusades and if I remember then during the Third Crusade - the one that this one would be about the Byzantine Empire were mostly shit scared of Barbarossa (not Geoffrey Rush) and while they were not pro Western Crusaders they didn't fight that much. It did happen I s'pose! Still be better if it was the Turks or the Cypriots! And I don't want to look it up in Wikipedia because that might say that the Byzantine Empire had steam powered diamond encrusted Elephant Tanks!!!!
Blood Meridian by bloodysam	Jun 5th, 2007 11:15:25 AM
Scott should ditch this sort of garbage and get on with Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Willam Monahan has done the screenplay, a terrific choice.
I think I recall from high school history... by Kid Z	Jun 5th, 2007 11:29:16 AM
...that in one of the Crusades, the Crusaders took a detour on the way to Jerusalem to sack Constantinople, capital of the Byzantine Empire. Maybe that's where the Greeks come in. It'd probably make more sense dramatically to have the Crusaders fighting Arabs, but: A)Hollywood-think, "That 300 movie racked up the bucks... can we put some Greeks in this thing?" And B) Hollywood-think again, "Not Arabs as bad guys again... sheesh, the Muslim groups are already pissed enough about 24... can we make 'em Greeks or something instead?"
Stereotypical Evil Archer, i split your arrow in mono by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2007 11:55:35 AM
jeez is there a denomination one can come up with any more without unwittingly naming some talbacker? anyway you must be really exited about this one, and that green arrow prison movie...too bad goyer is handling it.
Stereotypical Evil Archer, i split your arrow in mono by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2007 11:55:52 AM
jeez is there a denomination one can come up with any more without unwittingly naming some talkbacker? anyway you must be really exited about this one, and that green arrow prison movie...too bad goyer is handling it.
oops, by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2007 11:58:12 AM
site is too quick
About the Greeks by JadeOwl	Jun 5th, 2007 12:02:18 PM
They're apparently playing a little with history, but not that much. The only Greeks that Richard the Lionheart had to fight during the Third Crusade were the ones in Cyprus, in 1191. While travelling to the Holy Land, the ship that carried Richard's sister, fiancée and treasury was shipwrecked in Cyprus. The Byzantine ruler of the island tried to keep the gold and tell Richard to take a hike. Richard landed his army and conquered the island in a matter of days. Funny thing, Richard had promised not to put the dude in irons, so he kept him locked up in silver chains. So it makes no sense for the Englishmen in this movie to be the ones being besieged, if anything, they should be the ones storming the castles. Unless this guy is supposed to be the one that Richard left in charge of Cyprus after he left.
ridely scott blows hot and cold by emeraldboy	Jun 5th, 2007 12:15:39 PM
Like for example, kingdon of heaven looked amazing, had great battlescenes, and a towering permformance by ed norton. No amount of gleaming skylines or sunkissed vines in Provance or scenes of sunlight streaming through russells french maison windows could save this movie from the bleeding obvious: russell cant do rom-com and Scott cant direct rom-com. The first film Crowe made, was romantic comedy co-starring Salma Hayek. You possibly dont remember that one. and with good reason, it sank without trace. Crowe then re-cast himself as a heavyweight serious actor and hollywood bruiser. His real break came with virtosity and that was on the back romper stomper.
THIS IS NOTTINGHAAAAAM! by tomthumbstallywhacker	Jun 5th, 2007 12:16:00 PM
'nuff said.
PS: THE POOR GOTTA EAT! by tomthumbstallywhacker	Jun 5th, 2007 12:18:11 PM
sorry...
Therrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrree.... by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:21:32 PM
...was a rich man from Nottingham who tried to cross the river. What a joke! He tripped on a rope! Now look at him shiver!
Guy of Gisbourne! by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:22:14 PM
Might I have the pleasure of your name, before I have ya run through?
Locksley... by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:22:56 PM
ROBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIINNN!
Christ, this seems like something a dog coughed out... by Stalin vs Predator	Jun 5th, 2007 12:23:36 PM
But hey, there's a love triangle in it! I haven't seen this novel concept in movies for so long! I guess this must have been greenlit after the smashing success of that earlier idiotic revisionistic "retelling" of a legend -- "King Arthur"?
Greeks by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:23:51 PM
Must mean Byzantines. The Western christians and Eastern Christians got on each others nerves sometimes and came to blows. Then there was that whole sacking of Constantinople thing in 1204. Right, sorry about that one chums.
Alms for a blind man, m'lady by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:24:27 PM
One who cannot see your beauty.
You whine like a mule! by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:24:45 PM
You are still alive.
They've got armor Bull? by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:29:45 PM
Even this boy can be taught to find the chinks in every suit of ahhmor.
bang bang bang... by CatoTheCensor	Jun 5th, 2007 12:31:09 PM
I CAN'T DO THIS WITH ALL THAT RACKET!
Loves me Mel Gibson: The Payback! by Spandau Belly	Jun 5th, 2007 12:33:52 PM
Great movie, either cut is entertaining. I prefer the new director's cut.
GLADIATOR Hate by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2007 12:35:53 PM
The GLADIATOR hate exists because it's an over-long, plastic-looking, boring revenge film, focused on a self-centered and murderous protagonist (who is touted as a "hero" but is actually not the least bit heroic), who ultimately has a face off with a sniveling teenager who can pose no real threat to him without cheating, thus robbing the film of a truly satisfying payoff after nearly three hours of build-up. The only things that movie had going for it were: a) the innate charisma of Russell Crowe, b) the entrance and presence of Richard Harris, and c) a good trailer that made the film seem far more epic and awe-inspiring by using Basil Poledouris's magnificent CONAN score. There's a far better and much more involving period film on the theme of revenge, that has a sword fight that is still unmatched - ROB ROY. And, if you trade blades for guns, nothing beats THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES. Everything else - especially GLADIATOR - pales.
Never mind all this Robin Hood crap... by Kid Z	Jun 5th, 2007 12:36:47 PM
... who's the hottie in t-shirt and torn jeans in the ad in the upper right corner?!!?
Kingdom of Heaven: Director's Cut by Spandau Belly	Jun 5th, 2007 12:38:44 PM
Is actually movie in which the characters have motivations, themes are developed, and relationships built. Unlike the theatrical cut where Orlando is just a berzerc blacksmith who irrationally kills a priest, goes on the run with his estranged father who dies minutes later, then goes to the Holy Land pulls some Yojimbo tactics and bails back to France when the shit hits the fan to enjoy a honeymoon with Vesper Lynd. For all of you who hated Gladiator, you should check out the director's cut of KofH. These films are almost opposites in terms of scope, theme, message and character development.
Historical Revisionism??? by necco	Jun 5th, 2007 12:43:28 PM
Not so much. A gentle reminder that Prince John, when he ascended to the throne after Richard's death authored the Magna Carta. Also, Richard's adventures in the crusades and subsequent capture and ransoming by the Byzantine Empire very nearly bankrupted the English treasury, thus necessitating the exorbitant taxes that Prince John had to levy in order to pay down the debt. The real historical context in which the Robin Hood folk tale occurred paints a picture of a beleaguered Prince John tasking the Sheriff of Nottingham with collecting taxes to pay a debt run-up the Prince's irresponsible brother all the while being harassed by a gang of brigands ("hoods") who, while professing loyalty to the King, are actually just a gang of thieves.
This is gonna FLOP, Ridley!!! Listen!!! by SylarTheCylon	Jun 5th, 2007 12:57:53 PM
Robin Hood? Ridley, you needs to make sci-fi again! Blade Runner 2!! I can't feel exited about another robin hood movie, i mean come on how many more times can they tell the same story? What, now he's the bad guy? So what's next? Marion a crossdresser and the priest dude, brother tuck, is a horny leper woman in disguise? Come on, Ridley, get out of the boring woods. Fuck trees and grass, it's time to go back to space, the empty void of where nobody can hear you scream. Time to revisit the xenomorphs, time to meet the elephantine race. Fuck bows and arrows, give me a Warhammer 40k movie, give me storm bolters and nuke the site from the fucking orbit. Give us spacehulks floating of the edge of chaos. Give us Alien 5 with an all new cast of non famous actors!! Do it together with James Cameron. I don't care if it's low budget!!! Make it straight to DVD for all i care. Give us fucking Robocop with the original actor set farther in the future, maybe they upgraded him or something!! Give us fucking a Evangelion live action movie! Where's the Blade Runner sequel they talked about years back? Call Arnold and make crusade! Or make a Conan movie! Anything but the fucking woods of Sherwood, please i beg of you!!
t.piper.gates. you made me. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Jun 5th, 2007 12:58:33 PM
Yes, you created me. And I thank you for that. May your mono split more than arrows.
So... This Is The Republican Version of Robin Hood by Magic Rat	Jun 5th, 2007 12:59:51 PM
The guy who provides for the poor is the bad guy, and the rich are the good guys. gotcha.
re: GLADIATOR Hate by hollywoodsummers	Jun 5th, 2007 01:07:30 PM
Props Mosquito March for laying out an excellent explination for an argument I've had many times with people who defend GLADIATOR. The film failed on so many levels and I'll add another one. In a film called GLADIATOR, shouldn't we at least be given a glimpse of the emotional conflict among the gladiators themselves? The conflict that comes from training and living with each other like a sports team but not wanting to form any bonds of friendship because they might end up facing each other in mortal combat. This point was illustrated so well in SPARTICUS, but Scott&Co. totally dropped the ball to focus on a lame incest storyline while reducing Crowe's role to a revenge lustful Terminator in the ring who can kill 4 guys twice his size without breaking a serious sweat. I can't relate to either of these story lines, so in the end I just tuned out. This film was a HUGE LET DOWN.
Tornham vs the Greeks by ICantBelieveIRegistered	Jun 5th, 2007 01:16:10 PM
Tornham was the guy Richard left behind in Cyprus and put down the uprising. Thus "Greeks" is accurate, from that time period. And I can't beleive I registered for a Talk Back....
NOTTINGHAM 2, WITH HULK HOGAN AS THE BADDIE by Pound Sand	Jun 5th, 2007 01:22:05 PM
"I'm robbing Peter to pay Paul, brother !"
Eli Roth's Robin Hostel! by Spandau Belly	Jun 5th, 2007 01:26:18 PM
Cocky young American business men set up a factory in Mexico where they abduct locals and force them into laboring making American consumer goods. Whenever the workers begin to try to unionize and make demands they are tortured in cruel and unusual ways. Eventually a laborer named El Robino begins to fight back against The Nottingham Corporation's top brass using guerilla tactics but when they won't bend to his demands he slaughters them at their thanksgiving dinner.
Ridley Scott is the man by krushjudgement	Jun 5th, 2007 01:43:57 PM
He never ceases to surprise me. But why is anime so freakin' gay sometimes.
GLADIATOR Sucks by necco	Jun 5th, 2007 01:44:20 PM
As far as I know, crossbows didn't exist for another thousand or so years after this shit movie took place. You might as well have had Orlando Bloom wielding an AK-47 in Kingdom of Heaven.
It's about frakking time by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 5th, 2007 02:04:23 PM
that Scott makes a decent movie. Most of the last ones were mediocre at best.
necco... by PoweredUpPacman	Jun 5th, 2007 02:06:19 PM
...crossbows DID exist in Roman times. Find something else to nitpick on you silly frustrated man.
Scott is a fucking genius, but... by PoweredUpPacman	Jun 5th, 2007 02:07:55 PM
...enough with the period pieces already: SCI-FUCKING-FI RIDLEY!! That's all I have to say.
"Orlando Bloom wielding an AK-47 in Kingdom of Heaven" by Spandau Belly	Jun 5th, 2007 02:12:13 PM
That would be awesome. Great idea, necco! I loved Romero's Knightriders and would love a historical epic done with motorcycles and some pistols. Maybe do a retelling of the Peloponesian war with muscle cars and bazookas! If you make it, necco, I'll go see it!
Scott, do me a favor and get your ass back to space. by future help	Jun 5th, 2007 03:08:33 PM
enough with the past. Back to the future baby!
Screw this by Lornsorrow	Jun 5th, 2007 03:33:43 PM
So, once again the powers that be cant come up with a decent idea so they simply have to butcher a legendary character/tale. Robin Hood as a villain in a love triangle? Give me a break, I think I'm going to puke. But, why stop there, how about they turn Robin into a chick and call her Starbuck? As others have said, get your ass back into space/Sci-fi Mr. Scott! It's a good thing that we have some great Robin Hood films already such as "The Adventures of Robin Hood" starring Errol Flynn, as well as the underrated less known flick "Robin Hood" starring Patrick Bergin, and the fantastic 1984 series "Robin of Sherwood" (and the Disney cartoon is great too!)
Oh cool yea! Awesome! wait...Greeks? by DiernaSoul	Jun 5th, 2007 03:36:06 PM
This is set in the 12th century when the Byzantine Empire was at it's strongest. So perhaps the first part is set in the Crusades. Cuz the Greeks never went anywhere NEAR England! Seriously WTF?! That's a confusing plot there.
"Not so much. A gentle by JadeOwl	Jun 5th, 2007 04:11:47 PM
"Not so much. A gentle reminder that Prince John, when he ascended to the throne after Richard's death authored the Magna Carta." >>>>> He didn’t authored anything. The Barons forced it out of him, practically at swordpoint. He never had any intention of complying with it. Also, Richard's adventures in the crusades and subsequent capture and ransoming by the Byzantine Empire very nearly bankrupted the English treasury, thus necessitating the exorbitant taxes that Prince John had to levy in order to pay down the debt. >>>>> The Byzantines didn’t capture Richard. It was the Duke of Austria, who handed him afterwards to the Holy Roman Emperor. It was the HR Emperor who demanded 150,000 silver marks as ransom.
hollywoodsummers, Re: GLADIATOR Hate by Mosquito March	Jun 5th, 2007 05:41:25 PM
You're absolutely right - SPARTACUS showed exactly how horrifying the 'sport' was by putting Spartacus and his friend Draba in the arena to fight each other. If Maximus had to kill one of his friends, it might have put his previous spree of meaningless violence in some kind of perspective. Unfortunately, Ridley Scott is more interested in creating his revisionist Rome than putting any thought into the characters or their motivations. And, that's the main problem I have with Scott in general. he churns all this shit out at an alarming rate, and none of it really means anything.
Awesome, so they are taking an unconventional story and by Womb2dooM	Jun 5th, 2007 06:12:47 PM
conventifying it. Brilliant. Cool idea. Just the best. That's using both sides of ya brain!
Robin Hood vs the Martians by Kaitain	Jun 5th, 2007 06:18:33 PM
"Yes, martians land and try to take over Nottingham." They'd never make it through Hyson Green.
Has anyone read Parke Godwin's "Sherwood"? by Jimmy Jazz	Jun 5th, 2007 06:26:22 PM
It was a favorite of mine when I was a kid. The Sherriff was more of an honorable antagonist than the out and out hero, but it had a similar story. It also was set two hundred years earlier than most Robin Hood stories were set (shortly after the Norman Invasion) so it gave the Norman/Saxon feud a more urgent militaristic tone. I wouldn't mind them making a movie of that.
there wil be no more by emeraldboy	Jun 5th, 2007 07:00:10 PM
alien movies and no amount of big pay cheque-ery is going to convince Weaver to do anymore. Weaver has had enough.
"The Republican Version of Robin Hood" by pipergates	Jun 5th, 2007 07:26:53 PM
Thats hilarious! maybe Scott is doing the commercial for the empire again, like he did in Black Hawk Down? Do head back to space Scott, we need some more Bladerunners, but feel free to make some epic medieval stuff first. Oh those noble times when the nature was untamed and men were men and split each others skulls with axes. Might be true he doesnt go as deep as he could but he tells a mighty fine historical tale, like none these days, unless you somehow enjoyed the metrosexual Alexander? Stereo Typical Evil Archer, I'm deeply honored, I feel like Dr. Frankenstein.
Gladiator fucking rocked!!!!!! by J-Dizzle	Jun 5th, 2007 08:01:30 PM
Nuff said.
J-Dizzle... by hollywoodsummers	Jun 5th, 2007 10:38:44 PM
I stand corrected. Thanks.
Good stuff, Samson K! by Uncapie	Jun 6th, 2007 12:42:34 AM
Personally, I'd like to see Robin And the Lesbians From Mars! Has a cool fifties vibe to it. Throw in some le olde vampire zombies riding dinosaurs and Ridley's got my ten bucks! Woo-hoo!
Yeah the Angeli were pretty lousy rulers. by TomBodet	Jun 6th, 2007 05:41:43 AM
It's gotta be them knocking off Cyprus in 1191. As far's 'Greece part of the Byzantine Empire', ummm that's like saying Italy was part of the Roman Empire. No shit. These guys by and large were a Greek centered(albeit crossing over into Asia Minor too) state for centuries. 1204 was one of the stupidest things to ever have happen, you wound up opening the door for 500 years of fun filled Ottoman Hegemony in that area down the road. Not Good esp. if you are of Balkan extraction(which am not), you know? Geoffrey Rush there died in 1190 while swimming in some river in Cilicia, or so they say. He had a rather large army which trickled away afterwards. Better to set this during the time of the Comnenii or between 800-1025 if you wanna see the Byzantines expanding or well lead or whatever. It's not like they were 'scared to fight' in the Crusades, shit they WERE the front line vs the Moslems for centuries. They just knew that you had to do the treaty/trade/negotiation thing once in a while just because. This one sounds like it needs a Giant Robot (or two)...
To be fair by Samson_K	Jun 6th, 2007 06:15:11 AM
I am commenting on a review for a script and from the tantilising opening of the review - not a very well written one but it confused me by stating that the 'Greek Invaders' and setting it in a castle - and then by stating that Tornham gets a message saying that Richard is leaving for the Crusades as all the Cyprus battles took place after he left and - my brain has been addled by too many hits to the head and the fact I watched Troy a second time
"Gladiator fucking rocked!" by Kaitain	Jun 6th, 2007 04:30:47 PM
No it didn't. It was, in fact, a barrel of cock.

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