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TRANSFORMERS commercial that shows A LOT!

Impossible? by mooseaka	May 30th, 2007 09:04:17 AM
First
Seriously though... by mooseaka	May 30th, 2007 09:05:22 AM
...for a thread that is about to have 857 posts, I can't believe I'm first. I'm a total lurker. I just hope that we can discuss the Matrix sequels at some point during this talkback.
Second by henrydalton	May 30th, 2007 09:05:39 AM
Optimus Prime is Jewish?
And... by henrydalton	May 30th, 2007 09:07:08 AM
The whole 'boy with a special car' thing is still very lame.
Looks like something you'll only see on NBC! by Lord Iktarr	May 30th, 2007 09:09:32 AM
Mark me words on july 4th BIg Opening.. Bad reviews www.youtube.com/neonsupper
Fourth of 1000? by ATARI	May 30th, 2007 09:09:56 AM

WHy does BumbleBee by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 09:11:09 AM
Sound like a helmet wearing retard with a mouthpiece?
YouTube link. http://tinyurl.com/35uca6 by inevitability	May 30th, 2007 09:11:53 AM
For those like me who may have problems with that iklipz thingy.
This film is not yet rated = should be a hard R by Err	May 30th, 2007 09:12:01 AM
seriously.
BRING IT!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 09:12:08 AM
"My car is alive." "You shoot. I'll drive."
BRING IT!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 09:14:10 AM
"So you're like my guardian?"
MIKE BAY MAKES ME SHITS MY PANTS AGAIN!!!! by GARTHIMUS	May 30th, 2007 09:14:10 AM
he is genus!!!
Leafblowers are my worst enemy by skydog	May 30th, 2007 09:15:02 AM
Whatever happened to a fucking rake. Quiet, efficient, no oil consumed or people disturbed. Rant, rant, rant . . .
BRING IT!!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 09:15:41 AM
"Driver don't pick the car. Car picks the driver."
You got the Touch... by Zombieflicker	May 30th, 2007 09:16:00 AM
It would be nice if that's playing on Bumblebee's radio at some point during the movie. And the Matrix sequels can suck Megatron's steel pole! How long is it going to take before someone to piss off Moriarty or Quint?
BRING IT!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 09:16:44 AM
"Feels Good."
OK, OK...I'll go see it already. by isispop	May 30th, 2007 09:17:00 AM
They've been kickin up the hype machines w/the tv ads, but I have to admit I like what it's showin. I know it's just gonna be a Summer popcorn movie as far as a plot...but I have to admit I'm likin what I'm seein. My fav shot is that kind of slo-mo one of Bonecrusher (name?) kinda skatin towards Prime on the freeway. That is cool movement & seems like the way a big lumbering machine could build up speed. I'm not the biggest Bay fan, but I hope the actual combat/movements read like that through the movie.
When are we going to get a great full-length trailer? by Lawguy	May 30th, 2007 09:17:03 AM
Too soon, my grandmother was raped by a Bobby McFerrin Transformer
IS that Bumbleebee's voice by volumedealer1	May 30th, 2007 09:17:41 AM
IS that Bumbleebee's voice or Primes? It sounds cool,like the autobots are using sounds to refect a voice. B looks bad ass and so does Prime.
BRING IT!!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 09:17:47 AM
"I'm not going to leave you." "It's you, and me."
Nearly as bad as being woken up by the wife hoovering!! by boyblue	May 30th, 2007 09:20:39 AM
But I suppose in Harry's case he has his very own staff of OOmmpa Loompa's who do all the hoovering and dusting. I can see him now chuckling his ass off as they keep him amused with the lyrical hijinxs as they pick up all the ripped up Uwe Boll scripts on the floor of his En Suite crapper! Dammit today is a slow news day wich is why my mind is wondering!
whats up with this lost by volumedealer1	May 30th, 2007 09:20:52 AM
whats up with this lost rules dude...it's a movie dude...chill the F out.
I can't wait to see this- by gunslinger7000	May 30th, 2007 09:21:56 AM
I mean giant, fighting, transforming robots. What more do you really need?
still hate flames on Prime by BLWiseass	May 30th, 2007 09:22:03 AM
but I will probably see this opening weekend
BB's voice by mclovin	May 30th, 2007 09:22:04 AM
is it just me or did he sound like Cookie Monster? maybe i was dreaming...
BRING IT!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 09:23:03 AM
I'm just excited, man. This movie is going to kick ass! God Bless You, Michael Bay.
That's Prime's voice... by Gil Brooks	May 30th, 2007 09:23:04 AM
...that says "It's you and me." It's taken out of context, most likely, as that sounds like something he'd say to Megs. I think in the script, Bumblebee is silent, right?
The effects look good by Franklin T Marmoset	May 30th, 2007 09:23:14 AM
And I'm talking Godzilla good!
This looks fun by Spandau Belly	May 30th, 2007 09:24:05 AM
I've only sorta heard of the cartoon and generally dislike Michael Bay's style. But I really want to see this.
Cookie by Rat Fink	May 30th, 2007 09:24:07 AM
cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie
Now matter what by Rat Fink	May 30th, 2007 09:27:21 AM
this movie will kick ass.
I hate myself by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 09:28:06 AM
because I can't help the fact that this movie looks cool. I'm going to see it full well knowing that the story is shit, but the effects look awesome, and def. worth to see on the big screen. BTW why should we talk about the matrix?
Shia LaBouf kickin' it with Prime by BagSalad	May 30th, 2007 09:28:57 AM
pretty much makes a good movie.
I heard that... by Colonel Activity	May 30th, 2007 09:28:58 AM
at some point there's sweat on Megan Fox's chest in this movie. Also, Shia fucks a cat.
FUCK! by johnnykool	May 30th, 2007 09:29:21 AM
I want to like this, but there's so much bad about it. Honestly, I don't want to hate Michael Bay, I don't want to dislike this movie, I want it to be teh awesomez and r0x0rz my world. Sad thing is, it's going to suck the sweat off Mr. T's balls. le sigh
More then meets the eye by imkindofabigdeal	May 30th, 2007 09:31:46 AM
Giant robots + fighting = Fun. That is what this movie will be fun, not a defining moment in cinematic history as was the original Star Wars. Summer Fun, stop the hating and just try and enjoy. On the other hand if it sucks, Bay’s balls on a silver platter.
Ok, yeah he's said some lame stuff... by Shermdawg	May 30th, 2007 09:34:34 AM
...not on the level of Kirsten Dunst mind you, but I think you guys are a bit too hard on Shia. The kid's good.
Wife saw the trailer last night. . . by skydog	May 30th, 2007 09:35:28 AM
We were about to watch Pirates and the transformer trailer started. She started to look away and said "Is it scary?" "No." I told her, so she watched. After it was over she turned to me " I want to see that." If my wife wants to see it then I can promise you, it will be a huge success.
Wouldn't mind seein him take over for Tobey in Spidey 4 by Shermdawg	May 30th, 2007 09:38:04 AM
Meaning, let the franchise rest for five year or so.
Does Bill Murray voice Garfield is this movie? by Colonel Activity	May 30th, 2007 09:41:03 AM
And more importantly does Shia fuck a cat? Namely, Garfield?
after S3 they should never make another by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 09:42:35 AM
That movie fucking sucked. So upset with Sam. For all the money they made off those movies, you'd think they would have enough to make CGI look good
Yeah, stop the hating, people! by Franklin T Marmoset	May 30th, 2007 09:46:00 AM
Just because it's based on an old cartoon and is directed by a guy with no ability to tell an engaging story (not to mention no real moral compass) and has no interesting actors and by all accounts the script is shit, that is no reason to judge this film harshly! Stuff go boom! Stuff change into robot! I'll be there, just like I was for Ferris Bueller Does Godzilla. I hope this one is not as disappointing...
skydog... by Colonel Activity	May 30th, 2007 09:49:21 AM
No offense, but is your wife indictative of the American movie going public? I know what you're saying, but c'mon man! Also, what does she think of the rumors that Shia fucks a cat in this movie?
I've said it before and I'll say it again by Varakor	May 30th, 2007 09:53:37 AM
Big robots, blowin shit up, what more can you really ask for? fuck the story, fuck the non-boxy lookin transformers, Bay has the skillz to deliver a kick ass blow up film and I'm there rockin out with my cock out. It's transformers + shit blowin up = somebody gettin jizzed on. Please don't sit in front of me if this movie kicks all ass.
I hate when people call movies "summer popcorn flicks" by godzillasushi	May 30th, 2007 09:54:38 AM
It just drives me nuts.
urgh by The Only Woj	May 30th, 2007 09:56:12 AM
this is like if they made Batman Begins from that kid's perspective. or War of the Worlds from some random father's perspective. Oh wait, Speilberg did that (should have been called A Guy Being a Father during War of the Worlds). I want to see a movie ABOUT Transformers. Not about some kid with Transformers in it.
I can't over over how... by Dr.Opticus	May 30th, 2007 09:57:29 AM
great the transformation sound is in the 3rd trailer, I'd pay $10 just to hear it in the theater
Godzillasushi by Colonel Activity	May 30th, 2007 10:00:04 AM
I know! It's "Summer Sour-Patch Kids Cinema"! Get with the times! Also, did you hear that Shia fucks a cat in this movie?
Is that actually Bumblebee? by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 10:03:35 AM
'Cause so far everything has said that BB is silent, except for speaking through the radio...
Also-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 10:05:06 AM
Regardless of whose voice it is, why does it have to sound like a shitty voice-altering effect? They're freaking technologically advanced robots. They can turn into a car, but they can't make their voices sound as natural as Stephen Hawking's speaker?
Harry you think that's annoying? Try by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa	May 30th, 2007 10:06:17 AM
The house right across the roof gets new siding and a new porch, by construction people who see fit to do their work from 8-10am every weekday, for a week and a half, ONLY TO go the HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR and re-side them too, from 8-10am for ANOTHER FUCKIN WEEK.
nobody eats popcorn in the winter by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 10:07:24 AM
John Q. Public is all like "well, now that I'm here at this fancy picture house, i believe that my stomach would enjoy and large tub of popping corn with my summer motion picture. Perhaps I will wet my whistle with a tasty beverage? Who knows? Because the only reason I come here is to enjoy food and libations!"
messi by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 10:08:11 AM
No, fuck you. Thank goodness the movie bots aren't going to look anything like the CGI Sideswipe and Michael Smith video (both decent pieces of fan animation in their own right). Talk about your unrealistic cheat after cheat. Now, I'm going to challenge you to respond or post something other than the words "fuck" or "cunt" since that seems to be all you do around here.
Well ZB by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa	May 30th, 2007 10:09:13 AM
It's kind of ironic to complain about that, seeing as its closer to the source material. Back when that stuff was made, the robots sounded giant steven hawkings rattling off speeches , and they do now too. Sure it's not realistic or appropriate to their level of technology, but then again........................ THEY ARE GIANT ROBOTS THAT TURN INTO CARS
Lour Reed-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 10:14:27 AM
No, it's farther from the source material. The vast majority of the Transformers had very natural human voices. Listen to Bumblebee, Hotrod, Jazz, Prime, Blaster, Wheeljack, etc, they just sound like people. The only really "computery" voice was Soundwave, and to a degree the abomination that was Wheelie. This looks like a deliberate attempt to make the robots less human and more "badass", which has pissed me off about this movie from the beginning--they're giant robots with laser guns, of course they're gonna be badass. But making them all creepy and "alien" isn't true to the source, true to their level of technological advancement, or useful in terms of making them likable heroic characters,
The dicks started with their chainsaw at 8AM today by Mister Man	May 30th, 2007 10:17:38 AM
What is it with these people? My dad never let us use a machine before 10A - and bein' a teenager, that was cool with me. I wouldn't LET my yard guy start till 10AM. Damn idiots.
I don't understand... by Dr.Opticus	May 30th, 2007 10:18:10 AM
all the hate attached to this movie. First in line to be hate should be whoever released Transformers to be made into a movie because when an original story reaches Hollywood it WILL be chewed, regurgitated and will piss somene off. Second to be hated should be screenwriters and producers. You shouldn't dare to hate the designers working their ass off to make it look great flames and all. . Sure you can hate Bay for obvious reasons but you know what it's his movie, made the way he wants. I'm not a Bay apologist Armaggedon make me want to toss sometimes but I'm not writing him off for it.
fuckin' birds chirpin at 5 am by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 10:18:49 AM
someone should outlaw birds and any noise whatsoever until I decide to wake up
BSB-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 10:19:24 AM
Excellent point. The first two Star Wars movies in particular avoided cheap "cute" humor, when did we start having to put idiotic, reality-breaking sight-gags and puns in movies to make them more kid-friendly? And for THIS movie? We go from "Giant metal stinger impales army guy" to "dog pees on robot"--pandering to eight-year-olds who really shouldn't watch this movie in the first place is kind of annoying, y'know?
Bumblebee's voice by Jor-El23	May 30th, 2007 10:20:03 AM
I know Wikipedia is questionable at best but: "Some leaked information indicates that he may not have a vocal role in the film, having had his voice capacitor crushed, and may communicate through his car radio." so...I don't know. It would be interesting if his voice was an amalgam of different things on the radio, like a song then some news then some talk radio that all forms sentences. still looks bad ass.
Dr. Opticus-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 10:20:49 AM
I don't think anyone actually blames the designers for the shitty designs. Bay has made it clear that the "little doo-dads" were his directorial vision.
The uk trailer was much better by kingoflight	May 30th, 2007 10:22:03 AM
And he also said about his mother having a really bad temper nothing about his parents lol i think that was a dub over.
zb.brox... by Dr.Opticus	May 30th, 2007 10:27:33 AM
well, if thats the case the designers should say uhh... That's a dumb idea, Mike so I guess we're right to blame designers! J/K!
I swear by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 10:28:38 AM
if BB starts playing Britney Spears to convey an emotion, i'll fuckin' walk
zb.brox by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 10:32:36 AM
I totally see the point you're making with regards to kids and so on. But I think it's important to keep in mind that this film had to be made with several audiences in mind. It's pretty much three-fold = the hardcore-nostalgia crowd (30-40 somethings who watched the cartoons, collected the original comics and toys, etc.), the average movie-goer (those who don't really care about the property but want to see an entertaining film), and the kid crowd (those who still watch Armada, blah-blah-blah, and collect the current toyline). Say what you will about Bay & Co. (Spielberg is the one who pushed for the "Boy & His Car Angle") but it's quite a challenge to make a 2 hour film that can crossover to all the different branches of fandom while trying to incorporate some of the mythology from all the various incarnations. I think it would be difficult no matter the subject/property.
Dr.Opticus by BRUTICUS	May 30th, 2007 10:33:07 AM
piss SOMEONE off? granted. This has pissed more than SOMEONE off wouldn't you say?
Meh, that's an awful line to write for Prime by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 10:34:20 AM
"Its you and me"? Even though its probably directed at Megs at the end, its still a horrible line. But hey, they're going for that professional-wrestling-watchin g-fat-kid-who-likes-monster-tr ucks demographic. Also known as the highly coveted moron demographic. Seems like a ton of you folks fit the bill. So whatever.
If the car picks the driver by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 10:40:04 AM
Then my Ford Taurus with 228K miles is like an obsessed 89 year-old girlfriend. PS This movie looks whack!
After seeing the trailer in the theater... by bentmywookie	May 30th, 2007 10:40:34 AM
... my wife agreed to go with me too. I agree MNG, big transforming robots would be a hard sell if this was just for nostalgic 20 and 30 something men and young boys. I do hope there's something that she'll like too. I've already agreed to take her to Knocked Up as sort of a concession. Now please tell me we get to see Katherine Heigl topless!
Bruticus... by Dr.Opticus	May 30th, 2007 10:42:16 AM
all I'm sayin' is that the people expect live action Transformers cartoons, at least that's what I gather. It's not going to be that it's going to be an exaggeration one way or another, why act surprised what Bay is going to make, he will wow us thats what's payin the bills No?
MNG-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 10:42:16 AM
I think if the film was good and stayed true to the spirit of the source, people would accept almost any number of changes to appearances, even characters. Look at the X-Men franchise--Totally different look, Rogue, Nightcrawler, Storm, Iceman, and others completely shifted in terms of character to suit the story, and yet because they got the themes right, because Wolverine and Magneto were so badass and so close in spirit to their source, the first two X-flicks are highly accepted, certainly by me. If you make a good movie, most fans will be mollified, and general audiences will line up, even if it's "aimed" at children. The Harry Potter movies do plenty fine for themselves, right? On Spileberg: I said in another thread--I realize that Spielberg came up with a lot of what I don't like about this film. But if it were Spielberg, I'd have a lot more faith that he could take that bad (at least to me) idea and do something good with it. I mean, look, let's forget this is a Transformers movie for a second. If you just told me that Spielberg wanted to do a movie about a young man who gets a car, and finds the car is alive and turns into a giant alien robot? I'm on board. Sign me up, this is the guy who did fuckin' ET, I trust him to make that a good movie. You tell me it's Michael Bay, though? Any hope I'd have of there being a genuine emotional core to that film sinks, and it suddenly sounds like Herbie with explosions. Now make that movie Transformers--and I'm willing to give Spielberg a chance to win me over, because I know if it weren't TFs I'd want to see his movie. But with Bay? It seems like attending his movie is just a chore I have to do on the off-chance it's salvageable.
KNOCKED UP ain't no concession dude! by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 10:42:54 AM
Apatow/Rogen = good times. Mike Bay is the fucking concession!
this movie looks great. by Datascream	May 30th, 2007 10:43:57 AM
can't wait for July 4th. to hell with all the haters. Get over it, the 80's are over.
Harry, 9AM = time to get out of bed. by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 10:48:46 AM
It's Wednesday.
Little whiny bitches, cease and desist. by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 10:51:40 AM
Seriously. I am thrilled to death that this movie was even made in my lifetime. Optimus looks great, the 'bots and 'cons look fantastic, and even though Megatron's design isn't my cup of tea, I still think he looks like Megatron should look: malevolent and nasty.
I freaking love these Transformers TBs by the way by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 10:51:45 AM
AICN needs to do something special for the talkbackers on 7/4. Just devote the whole site to a transformers talkback or something. Yack: I'm going to see Knocked up for the Travelling Willburys song they play during the ads. Oh and Apatow & Rogen too--they're brilliant. What the hell is the html code for line breaks?
Yack by bentmywookie	May 30th, 2007 10:52:22 AM
I would say Apatow is as hit or miss as Bay, but I'm sure personal tastes will vary. If KNOCKED UP = 1st Half of 40-YEAR OLD VIRGIN, then good times. If KNOCKED UP = 2nd Half of VIRGIN then my wife owes me some GIANT SMASHING ROBOT ACTION!
wreck-gar by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 10:52:56 AM
= bumblebee
Every trailer make me want to see it more by Movietool	May 30th, 2007 10:53:05 AM
New designs = teh awesome. If it wasn't going to be a straight-up translation of the original G1 designs, then I'm glad they went totally alien. Yes, that's right ALIEN. Remember that these creatures come from a whole other planet? By the way, that definitely sounded like Peter Cullen to me - it was probably an Optimus line. Keep bitching, as is your right, but I'm loving everything I see here.
zb.brox by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 10:53:07 AM
Are you going to see this movie in the theater when it comes out?
oohh i'm so naive by AllieJamison	May 30th, 2007 10:54:51 AM
for a minute or so i actually thought i would look forward to this film. but these car-things ...they talk to shia labeouf while he's sitting on his room's open window. oh. looks like this film will be challenging in all the wrong places.
Movietool by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 10:55:02 AM
The concept that these robots are, in fact, alien seems to be lost on most people. Especially the G1ers. If they had their way, we'd probably have flashbacks to Cybertron where the old bots walk around with BEARDS.
BEARDS by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 10:56:44 AM
That always confused the shit out of me. Did they denote wisdom? How the fuck did they shave? And would Prime have grown one eventually? Fuckin beards. Did Arcee have armpit hair?
BeardsINO by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 10:57:51 AM

zb.brox by lionbiu	May 30th, 2007 10:59:06 AM
I agree with your post. The main reason I just dont think this will be good is because Bay has had so many chances with good material and fucked it up royally...there was a time when I could just watch explosions and be happy....I was 5.
Not 3 hours of talking on a boat? No jazz bar dancing? by mrsinister7381	May 30th, 2007 11:00:17 AM
Take me, Mr. Bay. Take me now. I absolutely fucking hated Pearl Harbor, but I think Bay might redeem himself with this. Every trailer I see makes me want to see it more. I have so far been pretty disappointed by the big blockbusters this summer. Transformers, you my only hope baby!!
Nah MNG... by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 11:00:40 AM
No one was ever asking for beards on robots, just for them to make a movie that actually revolved around the robots, instead of making them peripheral. No one ever wanted the boxy 80s deisgns either, just not the convoluted mess of gears and wires we got. I'm sure the action scenes are going to be terrific, but I'd be happier if I could actually identify something that looks like a robot in them (rather than a convoluted wreck of metal).
Teeth on Megatron... by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:01:20 AM
...not really new to the TF universe. Check the wikipedia entry for Unicron, and scroll down to the scan of the DK Transformers Ultimate Guide's Unicron article. He clearly has a set of sharp choppers...fangs, even.
BRING IT!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:02:04 AM
"No, son. You're not getting a porsche." "It's like a totally advanced robot.It's probably from Japan."
Oh yeah by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:02:59 AM
For you lazy peeps: http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Image:Unicron_DKUG.jpg (take out the obvious space)
MOST HAVE COME TO DESTROY US by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:03:40 AM
SOME TO PROTECT US
WHERE´S RATCHET???? by Romoehlio	May 30th, 2007 11:04:15 AM
i`m so going to watch this... and it seems like i was spot on on my movie by trailer - description (see new full length tf trailer tb). shia gets the energon, then starscream gets it, blasts of to the dam where megatron is, frees him and then.... serious SHIT is going to happen!!! bay-style!! this is going to be the opening of armageddon-mayhem...for full hours...hell yeah. i`m in
Lost: any reason why you're just quoting the trailer? by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 11:06:52 AM
Because we saw it too and weren't amazed by it to the point of quoting lines from it over and over like Rain Man. Way to go chief.
TEETH>>>MEGATRON GOTTA EAT! by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:08:20 AM
What the fuck do you think something like a trasformer would really look like. Teeth/ mouth aside. The mess of wires and such are very realistic. Have you ever seen the inside of any electronic device that has moving parts. Very confusing. Also, stop putting the cartoon on a pedistal. The design was childish and ment to look like toys. The new desing is not toy friendly. How are they goning to do that?
lost.rules by lionbiu	May 30th, 2007 11:09:08 AM
what is wrong with you? Are you trying to constantly remind us how bad the dialogue is?
HERE: The Ultimate Catch-22 by Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa	May 30th, 2007 11:09:34 AM
I masturbate twice a day, and I don't have a girlfriend. But I don't have the motivation to try and get laid because I'm masturbating. BUT I masturbate because I'm not getting laid. IT'S A CATCH-22
"armageddon mayhem for full hours" by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 11:11:05 AM
Yeah, not so much. Anyone who as read the script will tell you that the only action that occurs during the movie is at the very end. All those clips are from the last 20 minutes of the film. Hope you enjoy watching Shia talk to his camero for the first two and a half hours of the movie.
BRING IT!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:11:07 AM
"No.No.No.NO,NO! Dad!" "My god. What is this thing?" "We're at war with a technologically superior race." "What you're about to see is TOTALLY classified." "You shoot. I'll drive."
Ricky Henderson- 1 lost.rules- 0 by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:12:31 AM
yea, I say dumb stuff on talkbacks but at least I make the dumb shit up....hey maybe you will finaly figure your life out and will know whats going on in three more seasons, Lost.sucks you fucing looser bitch hehehehehe
Wha...?! by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 11:12:36 AM
"Makin' the jump to hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy!" "But I was going to go down to Tashi Station and pick-up some power converters!" NOPE! No silly, childish dialogue in Star Wars at all!
I'm just trying to point out how much this movie....... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:14:21 AM
is going to kick ass! God Bless You, Michael Bay!
get Skywalker the Wambulance right now! by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:16:13 AM
Cadillac Jones, it's true, like you didn't even have to quote 1-3.
Giant Fighting Robots People!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:16:25 AM
What more do you want?!!!!!!!
TF tb by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:16:26 AM
This movie is still a month away, and i probably wont see it immediately cause the crowds in the theaters around me are friggin huge!!! Not to mention all the little kids that fuck up the movie for me. The drafthouse here doesnt seem to enforce their "no kids over 6" policy. They should send me to a private screening, ill be honest when it comes time to review the flick.
I just hope that in the sequel by Diagnostic	May 30th, 2007 11:17:03 AM
we get to see Cybertron, just as we say Zion in Matrix:Reloaded.
the "you got the touch" song by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:18:22 AM
the "you got the touch" song is super cheesy, along with all of the other TF movie songs. I hope the new soundtrack wont be along these lines.
Mr. Nice Gaius-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 11:19:47 AM
I said as much above, yes. Why do you ask?
Michael Bay by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:20:40 AM
Greatest....Filmaker....Ever!
You can write this shit by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:20:57 AM
Orci and Kurtzman, but you sure can't say it.
that song was also recorded in Boogie nights by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:21:40 AM
by dirk and chest after they lost their porn fortunes. No for real, ask fucking harry. Speaking of wambulances and harry....DUDE GET SOME EAR PLUGS
Cadillac Jones-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 11:22:14 AM
...err, what's wrong with those pieces of dialog? The fact that they reference scifi concepts? If that was "[blank] ain't like dusting crops, farmboy!" and "But I was gonna go to [blank] and pick up some [blank]!" it would sound like an arrogant jerk and a whiny teenager, which is exactly what they were...
Well, you can say it by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:22:49 AM
if you are Peter Cullen. I'd love to hear Optimus call Megatron a douchebag. "Megatron, you are...a douchebag."
@ Ricky Henderson by Romoehlio	May 30th, 2007 11:22:59 AM
even if all the scenes are from the last 20-30 min. still, they rock. and by the way it looks, they rock HARD!! then we have the landing on earth (1min), the blackout-attack (5min) for full action-mode. rest of the time we still have giant-fucking robots on screen hiding in shias garden (i really think this is going to be funny), getting catched by the army (bb) and what the f... i know. this is going to be awesome. bay himself said, the moneyshots weren`t even shown up till now and i really do believe him! and all this "anyone who has read the script..." tell them i want to read it too! no wait...i don`t. but perhaps you can tell me WHERE RATCHET is? kurzinski already pointed out to me that he`s only in for two scenes...correct? still. i kind of like that phrase. if el mayimbe was right, and i think he is, then A+ looks pretty good on my page...not flaming, just saying. one last thing: are they pushing the releasedate?
Cadillac Jones by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:23:43 AM
You don't happen to know of the Atlanta band, Cadillac Jones, do you?
Ricky Henderson by finky089	May 30th, 2007 11:24:09 AM
< p > for line breaks, just get rid og the spaces between the carats and the "p"
Optimus Prime flame on by Nezzer6364	May 30th, 2007 11:24:27 AM
My bad
zb.brox by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 11:24:44 AM
I just think it's best to talk about the emotional core of the film vs. mindless action or good/bad designs and/or horrible dialog after watching film. No worries.
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Bring It ... too!!!!!! by ludmir88	May 30th, 2007 11:26:36 AM
MEGAN FOX ALL THE FILM!!!
Tino's Breaks by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:26:42 AM
Jack Dangers is god, by the way.
I'm not hating on Star Wars... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 11:27:41 AM
...but c'mon! There was HORRID dialogue all over the map in ALL those films! It was awe-inspiring because of its effects and its effects alone; which is exactly what Transformers will be to the children who see it (although I'll admit in today's lavish effects-ridden world it's not quite the same as in 77). To Seagrass - Why no, I haven't! Are they any good? I loves me new musics!
Giant Robots Fucking Shit Up! by SlickyVonBoner	May 30th, 2007 11:28:18 AM
When was the last movie we got with this theme..hmmmm.. NEVER!! I think this will be the type of movie you'll want to see a couple times. Looks like a bunch of OH SHIT moments that happen so fast you'll want to see it again.
lost.rules SHUT THE FUCK UP by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:28:40 AM
Lour Reed luvs Frank Zappa, is gonna cum all over you. Michaels Bay's directorial debut was a playboy centerfold video, I think its be downhill since then....creativly speaking. This movie will be great, we get it. No really we fucking getitgoawaynow. Yes you lost.sucks
I liked this movie better as SMALL SOLDIERS! by Raymar	May 30th, 2007 11:28:58 AM
Well, not really but still this is a ripoff: 1) Geeky kid trying to impress the girl next door? Check. 2) Befriends a group of robots fighting other evil robots? Check. 3) Kevin Dunn plays the father? Check.
Ricky Henderson by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 11:30:12 AM
Hmmm, I don't know. Where you reflexively see a "wreck of metal", I see a sophisticated robot that actually looks like it could have realistically transformed from an Earthbound vehicle. And while the robots may be peripheral at the outset (probably necessary for an introductory film that has to set the stage), I'm sure they will move more to the forefront by film's end. While it's a valid concern, only the film can tell.
Optimus Flame!!!! by ludmir88	May 30th, 2007 11:30:26 AM
a transformers lighter.... mehhh
MNG-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 11:31:37 AM
I agree it's possible Bay pulled this off. But my point is, with Bay it seems much less likely than with Spielberg. And, honestly, can't you point to a Bay movie that has a real connection between characters on a level with movies like ET, The Iron Giant, Lilo and Stitch, or any other good "kid-and-an-alien" flick? Any reason to think that this movie will be more than just good action sequences?
1000 points for anyone who knows TINO's breaks by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:33:08 AM
seagrass see Tino corp live because its a great show. I was lucky enough to be FOH engineer on that one in san francisco and Jack is kind of a dick mad genius, but the dude ben who did all the drum legwork also has massive talent. And a listenable solo carrer.
Bay is really spending money on... by Freefinger	May 30th, 2007 11:33:45 AM
... Marketing this movie. Should we be concerned? When movie get this many trailers and get them otu so fast is not always a very good sign... Bay should stay with his Bad Boys ...
Cadillac Jones-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 11:36:13 AM
I think most of the dialog is fine in Star Wars--it fits with the whole mystique of the film. But even if the dialog was iffy in places, Star Wars accomplished a lot more than just good special effects, it essentially brought together and amalgamated all kinds of myths and hero ideologies and cultural archetypes in a way that Transformers can't even begin to hope to. It did for space what Lord of the Rings did for Fantasy. Plot and themes can save crap dialog in a way that simple special effects can't, because special effects, unlike plots and themes, can't just make you care.
Mr. Nice Gaius you are speaking truth by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:37:07 AM
A breath of fresh air. The robots are the name of the movie, its not called "lame dude with a car".
Designs by SlickyVonBoner	May 30th, 2007 11:38:16 AM
For those of you bitching about designs take a look at G1 bumblebee. His VW hood feet with his windshield chest. Not to mention his gay viking horn head. He looks like a fat yellow opera singer. Tell me the movie design isn't better and more realistic than that.
zb.brox by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 30th, 2007 11:41:47 AM
Spielberg is my only reason. That and I think that Transformers is tailor made for Bay's big action style. And let's fact it: the only emotionally connected relationship in the G1 universe (IMHO) is the one that existed between Bumblebee and Sam. That may be the one relationship Bay & Co. get right and (ironically) it's the one relationship everyone is bitching about.
I agree Cadillac by SlickyVonBoner	May 30th, 2007 11:42:37 AM
OT Star Wars trilogy are my favorite movies. But there are a few bad scenes and dialog. The point he's trying to make is don't judge an entire movie by a few scenes or lines. Once you see the whole movie then you can whine like a little menapausal girl.
Cadillac, dont waste your time explaining, you are righ by gride9000	May 30th, 2007 11:44:44 AM
"AIC TALKBACKS: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
My dream date by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:49:27 AM
So it's a bout 8 o'clock at night. Michael Bay knocks on my door. I open it. He's wearing a tuxedo, and has a bouqet of red roses for me. I graciously accept them. I ask him if he's ready to go watch his new movie, and he says no. Michael says we should have a drink first. I agree. We sit and pours us both a glass of champange. He doesn't say anything for a bit, and there is this awkward silence. I try to break the ice by asking about his new movie. He doesn't respond. He just stares at me very intensely. I get a little nervous, and ask him if he's alright. Still, he says nothing. There's a long silence, and finally I say "We'll lets go see your next masterpiece." Michael says,"No. Not yet. There's something I want from you first." I look at him, into his cold and searing eyes, and ask him, "What?" In a soft, monotone voice Michael replies, "This." Suddenly, he runs over and grabs me with his strong hands and pushes to the ground. I get so scared that I urinate in my pants. He hovers over me for a second, and flips me around face first to the ground. I'm so scared that I can't even manage to yell for help. Michael pulls down my pants violenlty, and starts to undo his pants. I'm breathing as hard, and as fast as I can. Then a moment later, when the panic was just starting to settle in, I feel it. Michael has just penetrated me with his twelve inch penis. It's so hard and painful. I can barely stand it. Michael keeps whispering into my ear, "Yeah, you know you like it." while he's raping me. A little trickles down my cheek. I pray that it ends soon, and surprisngly enough, it does. After he's finished, Michael removes himself from my insides. He stands above me like a towering giant. I turn around anxiously, hoping the whole ordeal is over. That's when I see a demented grin on Michael's face. He says,"You fucking whore! Why did you make me do it? Huh?" I reply in terror, "But I didn't" "Yes, you did! You filthy slut,"he shouts back at me. He then starts kicking me as hard as he can, and punching me with his huge hands of his. I start yelling for someone to help me, but no one comes. Michael, hitting me all the while, screams at me that 'I made him DO IT'. The beating is intense, and I can not defend my self. Finally, Michael seems to tire out. He stops hitting me, and tells me that if I ever tell he'll kill me. I nod, and say I believe him. He zips his pants back up, and slowly strides out the front door. I lay there on the floor with blood, cum , and piss all over me. I quietly whisper to myself, "I love you, Michael Bay."
Star Wars was a train-wreck... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 11:50:28 AM
...and let me make it clear I AM NOT HATING ON IT - I grew up with it as did a lot of people here, but script-wise it was a busy storyline that was a hodge-podge of everything Lucas grew up with; the effects are what made it popular. Lucas got better with 5 and 6, but, ironically, messed up with the prequels and it was the NAME that carried those films. If you had stripped Episode One of the Star Wars title and renamed the characters, it would've bombed horribly. I think Transformers looks just fine - and to whomever it was that mentioned the Sam Witwicky/Bumblebee plotline being the one verbatim straight from the comics & cartoon being the ironic-fanboy rant was spot-on. Kudos.
This will be the biggest box office smash by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	May 30th, 2007 11:52:18 AM
I said it before and I am saying it now. It will be huge. Will break so many records. I fucking can't wait!
gride9000 by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 11:54:51 AM
Tino Corp has never come through Atlanta while I've been here, unfortunately. I still spin quite a bit of their music out at my gigs, though. I love the Halloween Dub album!
Gride9000 by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 11:57:07 AM
Ahahahahahaha! Well said! But in all honesty - these guys aren't as bad as I've seen; so far the disagreement between myself and the others has been civil and enjoyable. I'm sure someone will jump in with the inevitable "fuck you" or "you're an asshole" or what have you.
Re: being woken up by the wife hoovering by wash	May 30th, 2007 11:59:42 AM
What the hell's wrong with you, that's awesome! Oh wait, I see what you meant.
fuck you gride!!! by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 11:59:48 AM
Just kidding
lost.rules by SlickyVonBoner	May 30th, 2007 12:00:14 PM
I see why you love him.."12 inch penis", "big strong hands." Fucking hysterical. A compelling read. I was entranced to the last word.
Naga stole mah bike by Calimist	May 30th, 2007 12:03:39 PM
.-.
Carl Winslow... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:05:29 PM
...stole mah bike!
So, Cadillac Jones by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:06:24 PM
Seriously...are you associated with the Atlanta band? A close friend of mine put out a remix 12" of their music.
Death by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:07:02 PM
8 year olds should NEVER be aloud to see this film. NEVER. we should round them all up and shoot them into the side of the grand canyon. Laughing while their blood runs down Washington's face. This movie is too violent for children their age. And they won't appreciate what transformers means to so many of us. It's like an ancient tome that was worshipped for centuries and now has come to fruition. It would be sacriliage to let them watch it.
yeah the parents line is stupid by Rupee88	May 30th, 2007 12:08:51 PM
Just has been done SO many times before..
or mount rushmore by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:10:08 PM
I mean we could hang a picture of washington in the grand canyon and then it would make sense what I just said, but logicaly maybe i should have said that they would hit a burro or something to that effect, but in hindsight, i guess shooting them into something would be too quick. Therefore I believe that they should first be clubbed to death and then fed to Kathy Bates
Seagrass by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:11:08 PM
...apparently you didn't see my reply above, but nope. I'm not. Are they any good? I'm always up for new bands to groove to. You people really should lighten up Bay. Joel Schumacher on the other hand... Imagine if HE directed the Hulk?! "Well...with Batman I had already put nipples on the costume, but the Hulk's nipples are already visible so I was forced to work a bit lower..." ::: shudders :::
who the hell is named Witwicky anyway? by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:11:38 PM
only Sam
Sorry, Cadillac by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:12:31 PM
Missed it. Yeah, they are pretty good, if you are into funk and soul and jambands. Their keyboardist is pretty great.
Hey Lost by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:12:51 PM
by any chance are you listening to Tool right now?
Yeah MNG by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:13:56 PM
I'm willing to give this movie a chance because I really do want it to be decent.
Yeah... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:14:01 PM
...I even snickered at that when I was a kid, but that was indeed Buster (giggle) and Spike's last name in the comics and Spike & Sparkplug's last name in the cartoon. Ahhh...the early 80's heyday of Marvel's creative staff.
Seagrass by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:14:55 PM
Hook me up with a link, dude!
Still looks like shit by NightArrows	May 30th, 2007 12:22:29 PM
And fuck anyone says otherwise. Have I seen the film? No. Do I need to smell shit to know it stinks? No. See the parallel?
Smell my shit... by SlickyVonBoner	May 30th, 2007 12:24:10 PM
cause it don't stink! It smells good to me. See that parallel.
Cadillac Jones by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:24:35 PM
Link: http://www.cadillacjones.com
SlickyVonBoner... by Romoehlio	May 30th, 2007 12:26:40 PM
that answer was pure gold!
Doesn't surprise me by NightArrows	May 30th, 2007 12:27:18 PM
That there are people excited for this. People loved Spiderman 3, and that was a punctured colostomy bag. So go ahead and see it, and see it more than once. You'll be funding terrorism, cancer, and Michael Bay's dead hooker habbit.
I'll break my own rule... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:28:29 PM
Hey Nightarrows... SEE DEESE NUTS?!?! SUCK DEESE NUTS!!! Transformers looks awesome. I dunno about beating out Pirates or Titanic. I'd love to see it topple Spidey 3 though. Speaking of Spidey 3: is it just me or were the only two good things in that flick connected to Bryce Dallas Howard?
NightArrows by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:29:15 PM
Well, fuck you too. Only an idiot judges something he hasn't even seen yet. I'm a huge TF fan, but if the movie sucks, I'll be the first to say so...after I've seen it.
All Bay suck aside... by Dr.Opticus	May 30th, 2007 12:29:27 PM
I will be there in line sleeping for tickets cause this movie is going to rock yer balls to dust!
Ow man by Kragmose	May 30th, 2007 12:29:51 PM
Dis be teh suck
Thanks Seagrass!!! by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:31:37 PM
I'm digging this band! Very cool! 'Preciate the hook-up!
Here's the thing by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:32:10 PM
The talkbackers here who are really psyched for this movie seem to be the type of people who are incapable of proper spelling, grammar, or punctuation.That doesn't bode well for my estimation of this movie.
To be honest... by Octopus Prime	May 30th, 2007 12:33:37 PM
... before the Summer I was much more psyched to see Spidey & Pirates, but after seeing them, along with the effects on show so far in the trailers for TF(and more promised...) I am super pumped for this. And Megan Fox can more than meet my eye any time she pleases...
I am really psyched for this movie... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 12:33:42 PM
...and so my spelling, grammar and punctuation have been spot-on. Although I guess one could argue that I am the exception, not the rule.
seagrass by NightArrows	May 30th, 2007 12:34:02 PM
Only an idiot DEFENDS something coming from Michael Bay. His films are fucking dreck. From the leaked script, to the fucking horrible bot designs, to the trailers, I've seen enough to know that what I've seen is fucking garbage. People bitch constantly that films are devoid of a good script and direction, and yet in the same breath defend horseshit like this. Oh and Cadillac Jones, I'll suck your heavily traffic'd balls when your mom releases her death grip on them.
Testing the magic of paragraph breaks by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:39:13 PM
or how about now?
Must there be those lame jokes? by Johnno	May 30th, 2007 12:39:39 PM
I know they're also trying to amrket this to kids, but c'mon... put some more originality into those lame jokes... you can been lame and original... that way I won't groan... as much...
Nightarrows by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:40:36 PM
you know that you are going to see this. And when your mom comes to pick you up after it's over, you and your little dweeb friends are gonna giggle and give each other handjobs in the backseat of mommy's suv. Then you'll go home, come in here, and write about how you hated it so much.
My mom by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:41:15 PM
will never let my balls go. Sorry to disappoint you. You'll just have to settle for your little brother's mansack. I do have a question for you: who, in your eyes, could have directed this movie and done the source material justice?
frakking hell--paragraph breaks elude Ricky by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:41:52 PM
sweet jeebus someone tell me how to do line breaks.
Wow...that was hard to watch. (Then there's Harry...) by Negative Man	May 30th, 2007 12:42:21 PM
...I'm not knocking the movie, but the trailer itself. Cut so fast that my old eyes couldn't focus on a damn thing. It just looked like a hyper-jumble of robotic looking crap. I hope the movie has a scene that stays focused for more than five seconds. So far, it looks like the typical Bay style of ultra-quick cuts to not let the audience focus long enough to figure out he is dishing crap down our throats. Plus, the marketing machine is relying too much on familiarity with a toy line rather than explaining any story points in the trailer. I'm thinking that at best, they may have a Independence Day type opening (97 mil+), but have a War Of The Worlds type domestic gross (250 mil). Which isn't too great now that less people see movies... $11-$15 a ticket here...sheesh... Not sure how popular Transformers are around the rest of the world, so no telling how much they'll rake in from the F.B.O. Personally, I think we should keep kids away from this movie... I'm afraid it will give the wee ones seizures through the quick cut pacing! HA! I kid! Though, most I know want to see it simply to see how badly they screw this up. I kinda feel that's how most of the over 30 crowd is viewing this flick. So a big initial weekend, followed by an expected beatdown by Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix as it takes the top spot the very next week. H.P., after all, does have a MUCH LARGER fan base. Plus, it's release is close to the release of the final book which will have a way bigger buzz and free media attention than Transformers could ever pray or pay for. That is a combination that will most likely kill any Transformers movie momentum. Either way, thanks much to this trailer, Transformers now has my suck-o-meter on orange alert.
Oh not only will the jokes be lame... by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:43:25 PM
...they'll be racially insensitive as well! (That's how you know you're watching a Michael Bay movie).
Cadillac Jones by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 12:43:59 PM
Saying the original Star Wars film was a trainwreck and you're psyched for Transformers in the same talkback is pretty amazing. Star Wars is an amazing movie. That's it. The special effects were not what made it the phenomenon it is. The fact that Lucas told an elemental story that resonated in the hearts and minds of nearly everyone that saw it is what made it a phenomenon. Star Wars is, simply, wonderful storytelling that happens to be aided by special effects (and don't kid yourself, the effects weren't that groundbreaking, take a look at 2001 a few years earlier...many of its shots were higher in quality than the original Star Wars). Michael Bay is a hack. The guy has never made a good movie. The Rock was...okay. But Armageddon? Pearl Harbor? I mean, what the fuck? Anyway, there's a reason the original Star Wars film is in the top 20 in the AFI list of top 100 movies. I guarantee a Michael Bay film will never enter that list. Kthx.
David Lynch Present's Transformers by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:44:01 PM
six hours of dancing sperm and lesbians. Robots are portrayed by giant shrubs with pencils for branches
Spelling? Grammar? Punctuation?! by Dr.Opticus	May 30th, 2007 12:45:35 PM
I would love to see the movie and when TBing I dont use punctuation alot also I type light speed cuz Im at work understand?
SHIA DOES NOT FUCK CATS!!!!!! by GARTHIMUS	May 30th, 2007 12:46:56 PM
BUT BAY WIL FUK YOU EYES WITH GRATE EYE POPPIN SUMMER ACTION!!!!!!
Matty by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:48:22 PM
Star Wars was awful. boring and way to focused on it's own vastness. It's spewed forth nothing to add to the world other than Lucas wanting to make money off of people. I mean, the guy did do Howard the Duck
Yes, Dr.Opticus... by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:49:57 PM
...but honestly now, exactly how much time are you saving by typing "cuz" instead of "because"? I just read some of these posts and I get tired of what appears to be 12 year olds breathlessly fawning over this movie.
This is ME talking about TRANSFORMERS by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 12:51:12 PM
First of all, Bay is garbage. It's true. Said this before. He has not yet made ONE decent film (I don't consider "turn off my brain to watch" to be a prereq. of a decent film). Secondly, much like Singer did with Superman Returns, it seems like they just MISSED THE POINT. The Transformers seem like elements in a story revolving around their arrival on Earth. Forget about the fact that the dialogue WILL be horribe, the love story will be overly simplistic and sappy....if I'm going to see a movie called TRANSFORMERS I'd like the main characters of said movie to BE the Transformers. I haven't read the script like so many seem, but I'd be surprised if Optimus Prime has more than 10 minutes of dialogue. I cringe at calling so many of you apologists, but that is what your immediate defense of this flick amounts to. You know that it's not gonna live up to your expectations (and granted, some you have WAY TOO HIGH expectations) so you're giving it the STAR WARS prequel treatment and excepting it. It absolutely sucks that this movie will make 500 million dollars...it REALLY sucks. And I'm sure the action WILL be cool...but it will be hallow. Like MOST of Marvel's films, it'll be a testament to what COULD have been. Damn shame.
Me like Michael Bay good by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 12:51:38 PM
id thunK Hes Movies is Awesum! My bad! But I 2 dunt like Star Wars. it too booring for mees
Original Soundtrack by Zombieflicker	May 30th, 2007 12:51:39 PM
Kicked Ass! (20 years ago, not including Dare to be Stupid). Vince DeCola should be allowed to score some of this with Trevor Rabin!
Seen the film, that's not Bumblebee's voice by filmcoyote	May 30th, 2007 12:53:07 PM
Bumblebee doesn't speak in the film at all. Oh, and the film rocks! I had serious doubts approaching but damn if i didn't love it.
Uwe Boll's Transformer by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 12:53:57 PM
Mr. Boll brings the Transformers to life with amazing bullet time!
Filmcoyote...ELABORATE by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 12:55:40 PM
Tell me, please, in reference to this film "rocking"...why?
Re: Hooking up Cadilla Jones by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:58:44 PM
No problem...seek out the remix 12" as well, on Jazz, Space and Bass records.
I mean Cadillac Jones by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 12:59:42 PM
You know what I meant. God, this site needs a bloody preview button.
Whole lotta plants around here today by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 12:59:49 PM
New names, new faces, and they all have one thing in common: the need to praise Transformers.
I enjoyed Independence Day by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:01:26 PM
on opening night, with a packed theater who cheered every single, cheesy moment. Yes, it was big and dumb, but it was a damn fun movie. If Transformers is even the tiniest bit better than ID4, then I will be very happy.
Kloipy by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 01:02:03 PM
Star Wars gave nothing to the world? Well, then I guess you can throw a huge amount of filmmakers working today out the window. Many of these people (like, say, James Cameron) were inspired by Star Wars to the point that they decided to pursue a career making movies. Sure, many of those inspired by Star Wars would go on to make crappy movies (see: most big-budget summer fare), but there are many who were inspired and produced great films (Cameron and Scott, to name a few). How many films can say that they've inspired the majority of the next wave of filmmakers? And how, again, was Star Wars 'focused on its own vastness'? Wasn't the first film just the story of a simple farm boy and his journey out into the world? Gee whiz, that story sure was way too vast... Right.
Freakin' COOL!!!!!! ...And yeah, B R I N G I T !!!! by JDanielP	May 30th, 2007 01:02:20 PM
Personally, I can't wait!
Filmcoyote by Octopus Prime	May 30th, 2007 01:05:05 PM
I wouldn't mind a little elaboration on your viewing of the film either... ...
Yeah, I just saw this movie the other night. by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:08:03 PM
It really is awesome!I think it's the best movie I ever....uh....I mean the best movie Michael Bay has ever made.
There's nothing wrong with Star Wars by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:09:24 PM
except for the way George Lucas keeps "revising" the mythology of the series. I don't care if he created it or not; a liar is a liar. I just wish someone had the cojones to call him a liar to his face.
I thought Bumblebee only speaks in radio snippets? by CreasyBear	May 30th, 2007 01:09:38 PM
Cutting this conceit is a plus, as far as I'm concerned.
Hey! I owned that Camaro when I was a punk kid! by ewokstew	May 30th, 2007 01:09:51 PM
Well, I'm still a punk kid in many ways and it was 1970 Camaro but the paint job was identical...now that I've outed myself as a Michigan hick I feel so much better.
looks UN-BE-LIEV-ABLE!! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:09:55 PM
(I used caps and spaces so you can know I mean it!) About halfway though, when you look up and you can see Leader 1 change into plane form = EXCELLENT! Also? At the very end, when Optima Prime is in the boy's yard? I think standing to his left is Perceptor (in robot form, of course, lol) but I'm not certain because I cannot freeze that frame. Can anyone freeze that last frame to see if that actually is Perceptor?
Ricky Henderson by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:12:13 PM
I am not a plant. I am a longtime lurker, but that's because I enjoyed reading these silly little talkbacks. Now that I have decided to contribute, I can promise you this: when I see Transformers and it does indeed end up sucking, I will be on here ranting about it for months.
O.K. You don't believe me. You think I'm a Plant. by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:14:09 PM
Well, let me prove that I've seen this movie. Check this out. In the last Great action sequence of the movie, that's twenty minutes long. All the robots fight each other at dusk. There are literally a hundred cuts per minute. There's tons of loud booming and explosions in the backround. The dialouge is corny and tear inducing. Optimus has flames on him. I don't know. What else do you guys wanna know?
Not familiar with transformers but still... by Silverglade	May 30th, 2007 01:14:36 PM
I just want to go into this and see shit get torn up. I wanna see those gigantic robot things kill shit and break stuff. I want panic. I want the sound to kick ass. I will leave my thinking cap at the door for this. I don't care who directed. I will not whine over CGI. Gimme some fun at the summer movies for a change. I wanna leave this with my ass kicked. And there better not be any 8-yr child old saves the day "Wait! UNIX I know this!" cop-out moments.
Matty by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:14:50 PM
and those filmakers all suck too. Seriously go back and watch Star Wars again. It's not deep, it's not cool, it's not an allegory. It's good when you are 10, but if you are in your 30's thinking that Star Wars is the best, most influencial movie ever made, than you really don't have a valid opinion. Look at Jedi. You can't tell me that you think that movie is just amazing. Star Wars is just Scifi to make money. You don't think George knew that he was gonna make so much money off these chumps. Some people believe this shit. They think somewhere out there, there is a wookie just waiting to help them fly a spaceship. People are easily led into crap like this. Lucas was the Bay of the 70's
WRONG! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:15:21 PM
Seagrass is W-R-O-N-G. (caps and spacing = for serious) I watched the preview again with my eyes very close to the screen = I am 88% sure that it IS Perceptor there at the end. Yessss! This movie will RULE!
FUCK ART. LET'S DANCE. by micturatingbenjamin	May 30th, 2007 01:16:34 PM
Yeah, this movie's gonna be a blockbuster. What's even funnier, is that kids who see this in July, this is going to be THEIR Transformers, The Movie. And you know what? They're not gonna care about that shit. Great, sez me. This movie is depending on whether or not you like the big ass robots making big ass explosions. I saw The Island, which is Parts, The Clonus Horror with big ass explosions, and it was ok. Bay gets bajillions of dollars to make the kinds of crap he and lots of other non-intellectuals like. More power to him. More power to us! Get over it, and don't go see it if you think it's going to suck! It's cool with me if you don't like it! I'm going to see it, I guess. I dunno...I still haven't seen Pirates 3 yet...but because I'm saving up for some big ass purchase in the fall. Later! MB
Star Wars hyperbole... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:17:56 PM
No offense Matty, you are a true Star Wars fan, I can appreciate that being a huge comic book geek myself, but Star Wars has been placed on a pedestal that is simply rediculous with grandoise defenses like you said "Star Wars is an amazing movie. That's it. The special effects were not what made it the phenomenon it is. The fact that Lucas told an elemental story that resonated in the hearts and minds of nearly everyone that saw it is what made it a phenomenon." Jorge Lucas got lucky because of the effects; I can guarantee that back in '77, audiences walking out weren't saying "Wow! What an amalgamation of Kirosawa and Japanese Samurai epics with Western and Flash Gordon influences" but rather "Holy shit! Did you see that X-Wing trench battle?! How did they do that?!" I grew up early with Star Wars, but, when I was 8, Transformers came along and stepped in for the remaining years of my youth in the 80's; that's why I will totally admit about psyched for Transformers and letting trump Star Wars. And EVERY director has had flops - Spielberg had 1941; Lucas had American Graffiti (which wasn't necessarily a flop,mind you). And as far as Lucas getting lucky - there's no shame in that; Look at Spielberg and Jaws? Jaws is the only instance that I know of where a film was better than the book. The book is truly awful, what with horrible plotlines such as the Mafia strong-arming Brody because their beach estates are losing money to the whole Moby Dick rip-off ending with Quint getting caught in the lines after harpooning Jaws. ::: shakes head :::
This is ME talking about GEORGE LUCAS & YES-MEN by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 01:18:01 PM
Quick story, a guy I work with is good friends w/ Drew Struzan and was invited to the EPISODE 1 premiere. They left about half hour into it and walked into the lobby to SEE that George Lucas and some producer were standing there...when asked what they thought the guy i work with replied "Well, it wasn't MY Star Wars." He said the look on Lucas' face was very telling. Drew told him later on that NO ONE critiques Lucas anymore...doesn't happen.
Oh, and one more thing... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:19:54 PM
Shia fucks a cat. Mom catches him doing it, and we find out why she has a "temper". Oh, and Optimus fucks Meagn Fox. Megan, surprisingly enough can handle the 20 ft Steel cock. Cinematic Masterpiece.
Telestream by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:20:55 PM
Think your aim is a bit off. I never said anything about Perceptor.
And leave Lucas alone! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:21:08 PM
Ever seen a little something called 'Logan's Run'? Hmmmm? Go watch that and THEN try and say Lucas sucks with a straight face!! Also-- my bad, it's NOT Perceptor in this new commercial. But it looks EXACTLY like him...maybe he's in the sequel? (Hope hope!) Perceptor vs. Cy-Kill! Bring it!
Ok, Lucas Sucks! by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:22:57 PM
Howard the Duck. I hate Star Wars, not even a fan of Indy. Look what he did to the force. He made it aids
I'm hoping this does well by SlickyVonBoner	May 30th, 2007 01:24:00 PM
So they can make sequels can concentrate more on the Transformers themselves. Bring on Hound, Mirage, Soundwave... and Unicron. Wouldn't that be sweet to see Unicron towering over Earth ready to destroy it. They can't possibly fuck up that. Just like Galacticus, yep just like Galacticus....
Kloipy by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 01:24:05 PM
I'm only talking about the first Star Wars film here, not the entire saga. Many people obviously have varying opinions on the whole saga (hell, many wish the prequels were never made), but the influence of the first film is undeniable. It is a great movie. I'm not saying it's the best movie ever made. I've seen better. But it is a magical film, one that resonates for many more reasons than special effects (which, again, were not that groundbreaking considering 2001 came out nearly 10 years earlier). And, did you just say Scott and Cameron suck? I mean, they have made a few stinkers, but I challenge you to name a science fiction film in the last 25 years that's better than Blade Runner. Or an action film in the last 20 years that is better than Terminator 2 (Die Hard is probably better, but T2 is still great). Again, I'm not talking about the quality of the influence. I'm just saying it had an undeniable influence. And saying Lucas was the Bay of the 70's is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard (especially since, his, as you might put it, 'money-mongering' didn't really hit full stride until the 1980's). I mean, isn't it obvious that THX 1138 was made to be a box office smash? Oh, that's right, it wasn't made to be one, and it wasn't. And American Graffiti was a box office smash because the film resonated with audiences at the time (hey, waddayaknow, just like Star Wars). All I'm saying is that A. the first Star Wars movie is a great film, period. and B. its influence, for better or worse, is undeniable.
Telestream by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:26:25 PM
Hate to break it to you, but Lucas didn't direct Logan's run
What's with all the cat-fucking and yelling here? by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 01:27:29 PM
Just wondering, because I didn't bring the appropriate toolbox for this shit.
Logan's Run by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:27:44 PM
Yes he did.
You misunderstand me, Sylar Returns by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:27:50 PM
I will only be on here bashing Transformers if it sucks. If I enjoy it, then I will happily defend the film based on its merits. I am indifferent to Michael Bay as a director. I loved the Rock, but I hate Armageddon.
This is ME talking about KLOIPY BEING OUTTA LINE by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 01:28:08 PM
"Lucas was the Bay of the 70s"?!? REALLY!?! you TRULY believe that statement. George Lucas is by no means a great director, but he IS a very capable storyteller. There IS a fundamental reason that STAR WARS sticks with so many of us the way it does. How it crosses taste in movies to the point where most, if not love it, at least find it watchable. Do you think that 5 year olds that watched Armagedon are going to keep watching it until adulthood and want to show thier kids the MICHAEL BAY collection? Star Wars WAS about much more than special effects, there was a very innocent story at the heart of the first movie that resonates with most of us. 2001 has special effects that were superior to STAR WARS and that was 7 years earlier...yes, people ate up the dogfights and wookies but to say that they didn't think it was deep is insulting. Hey, I HATED the prequels but the Star Wars Trilogy still remains a series of movie that I feel I can watch ANYTIME. Never felt that way about a Bay film...
What's totally amusing to me now... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:28:30 PM
...is the fact that I just remembered Hasbro made STAR WARS TRANSFORMERS! And the Obi-Wan Transformer had a robo-beard, signifying he had elder robot wisdom.
BAY WIL FUKK YUR EYES UNTL YOU SHIT UR PANTS ON 7.4.7!! by GARTHIMUS	May 30th, 2007 01:29:23 PM
U WILL GET UR $10 WORTH WHINY GEEWUN CRYBABES!!!!!!!
Matty by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:30:38 PM
I know what you are trying to say. It's fine that you believe what you believe. All i'm saying is I don't find star wars to be magical. It would have been better if it wouldn't have influenced other movies I think.
Spielberg is producing The Lot by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:31:42 PM
Great Show!
Yeah, its this Gabriel Gray fellow by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 01:32:01 PM
He seems to like screaming a lot. Dont you just hate it when the psychotropic prescrpitions run out? As far as the cat fucking goes, I have no idea whatsoever where that came from... I think the night shift is to blame for it.
Loved The Rock... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:32:39 PM
...loved parts of Armageddon, Bad Boys were fun action flicks. Saw Pearl Harbor once, never again. Never saw The Island - just didn't look interesting. Micheal Bay, is to me, an average filmmaker; not uber-talented but at least he knows the type of films he makes and make no apology for them. Even though I like his movies, Stephen Sommers is worse than Bay. I think we can all agree on that.
Also by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:33:17 PM
I still have my original toy of Optimus Prime, and I gotta say...he looks like a pussy: Skinny little arms, boxy non-streamlined shape. I never liked him with that flatcab design, even as a kid. Bay's Prime is much more impressive, flames and all. I was always a fan of the Sideswipe/Sunstreaker duo, because trucks were boring and slow compared to sports cars.
Cadillac Jones by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 01:33:48 PM
I am a Star Wars fan, and I'm not throwing around hyperbole when I say the impact of the original Star Wars film was huge. It's just a fact. However, I'm not going to go around preaching about my opinions on the films, because I understand Star Wars is a pretty touchy subject for some. But again, objectively speaking, the film had a huge impact. And I've refuted your point about the effects: 2001 came out nearly 10 years earlier, had effects that rivaled, if not bested, Star Wars. The effects work was not that phenomenal. I'm not saying people left the theatre knowing exactly what hit them, but they definitely knew they had experienced something special. Saying that Star Wars resonated because of the effects is like saying the same for E.T. The effects served a great story and both films resonated deeply in audiences. And American Graffiti wasn't a flop. It was a huge success, garnered a number of Oscar nods (including a Best Director nod for Lucas), and inspired Happy Days. THX 1138 was a flop, though. And I don't think Spielberg really got lucky with Jaws, either. The fact that you said the book isn't that great ought to reaffirm the notion that he didn't get lucky. I mean, think about it, if Spielberg was given a great book to adapt and adapted it, he'd be considered lucky. But he took a simple bestseller, changed many of the ideas in it, borrowed a bit from Hitchcock, and made a film with huge pop-cultural resonance.
Spielberg owns something...what's it called? by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:33:48 PM
OH, YEAH! DREAMWORKS! What studio is producing this film? OH, YEAH! DREAMWORKS!
Cadillac Jones-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 01:34:06 PM
I'm certainly not going to argue for the prequels. If this movie is only as good as Phantom Menace, I'll consider it a failure. Butthe original Star Wars had likable, iconic characters who got to do and say things that fleshed them into somewhat realistic (if stylized) human beings. It had the feel of mythology to it, and the plot was hardly busier than any other action-adventure movie. And it actually immersed you in a familiar, but different, mythology and world--what are the chances Transformers will do anything like that? The Star Wars prequels lost it because they abandoned exactly that kind of thinking, the storytelling lagged, the storylines were less classic adventure and more cumbersome, the dialog went from being merely pulpy to being, well, often awful. That looks to be more like what we're getting from Transformers.
Ricky Henderson... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:34:13 PM
...Nightshift indeed! Ahahahaha! Awesome!
????!!!!! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:34:37 PM
Cat f****ing? Are you serious? I hope NOT = gross. Who has REALLY seen this (no fakes) and please confirm if Perceptor makes an appearance (even in cameo format, or flashback format, or dream format)
Telestream and Brian by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:34:53 PM
No he didn't. go to imdb. type in Logan's run. You'll see. Brian the story never resonated with me. I'm not from space. I've never fought with a light saber. I never had the hots for my sister. George Lucas knows that he can do whatever the hell he wants and people will suck it up like cocaine. Star Wars christmas special, the ewok movie, all the toys and fast food tie-ins. He knows if he shows a bunch of dumb shit that people will drool over, he'll continue to bring it the bucks a la Bay
Italian Trailer for Transformers by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 01:35:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oFNIZ1Q_m74
Transformers>Star Wars by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:35:43 PM
Yep. I went there.
Re: The Lot by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:36:03 PM
Half the "shorts" looked like bad commercials for terrible products, especially the incredibly non-sexy airport security short. That woman has a future, alright: directing Prell commercials. I loved the barfing aliens, though.
Mr. Nice Gaius-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 01:36:36 PM
It's not just about relationships, though, it's about defining characters with emotional centers. If you can show me any movie by Bay where he successfully juggles more than, say, two characters with distinct personalities and emotional cores to them, I'll be very surprised.
Kloipy by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:36:45 PM
You are WRONG, sir. I don't want to get into an argument. But your fact is wrong. What in the heck is an imbb?
star wars transformers by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 01:39:13 PM
toy line into movie would just prove too much. my head would implode. chewie transforms into the millenium falcon, arcee's armpits into ewoks - bring it bay.
Kloipy by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 01:39:25 PM
Oh, that's totally fine. If you think Star Wars has had a detrimental impact, I agree on one hand. Most of the crap coming out right now is the byproduct of the successes of Star Wars, Jaws, E.T., Raiders...the early blockbusters. But I'd argue that, unlike a lot of the stuff driven by corporate execs today, many of those original blockbusters were great films in their own right, so I can't really blame Lucas or Spielberg for making a few great, popular films. I'd be more quick to blame money-hungry execs who tried to recapture the formula they developed. But if Star Wars never resonated for you, that's fine.
Harry selling out by trombone	May 30th, 2007 01:39:40 PM
Harry, could we please get a talkback devoted to the effects of success on your reviews? How the money has directly and indirectly affected the nature of this site? Sorry, man, as much as I am proud of you and congratulate you on Playboy and all the work you do for us, I really felt disserved by the whole Spider-Man 3 thing. I had been under the impression that AICN was partly here to warn us about the turkeys. And I went in to Spider-Man 3 fully expecting it to own. So just what influence DOES success have? And I'm not necessarily talking about the studios giving you goodies so that you will write favorable reviews. How does it effect your choices of what is and what is not a TB? How much do you consider the big budget projects as opposed to the smaller ones? Are you more resistant to tearing a hole in some disgusting project? Wondering if the studio will keep you in the dark next time? Maybe in the back of your head? I'm still very skeptical about Die Soft and it really seemed that Walter B "bought" Vern's opinion on that one with his presence. Vern turned right around. Curious how it looks from your end. How DO you do things differently? Curious.
Telestream by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:41:08 PM
IMDB is a website. It has a ton of movies and the facts about them. Logan's Run was directed by Michael Anderson.
Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose. by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:41:48 PM
Yes, he was. No, he wasn't. Are you kidding? He was on the cover of Newsweek. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. No, he wasn't! No.No.No.No.No.No.NONONONONONO NONONONONONONONONONNONONONONO! !!!!!!! He-haw,HE-HAW!
Kloipy.... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 01:42:29 PM
To each his own, Kloip. I absolutely agree that George Lucas IS a merchandising whore. However I also think that creating a story and making a deal for the merchandising rights so that you can have money to make more movies is QUITE different from making a SHIT movie and getting lucky because alot of stupid people will go see it. Keep in mind, also, that I don't consider Star Wars to be "stupid shit". Has Lucas gone too far? Absolutely...BUT I make an immense separation between young hungry and apparently talented director Lucas of the 70's and the media corporate whore he's become. BAY, on the other hand, has NEVER made a redeemable film.
FRIGGIN AWESOME!!! by Motoko Kusanagi	May 30th, 2007 01:42:29 PM
Not as awesome as the PG-13 LIVE FREE OR DIE WATERED DOWN trailer and not nearly as awesome as the frakkin cool RAMBO clip. But awesome enough to keep me interested.
These designs = FAIL by photoboy	May 30th, 2007 01:42:52 PM
It's like someone forgot to tell Bay they'd got the actual Transformers license and he didn't need to change everything to avoid a law suit, including covering Optino Prime with flames and giving him a mouth and making Megatino look like he'd been magnetised and taken through a nail factory. And that's before we even get to the shitty story with its hilarious dog peeing on Autobots gags! How hilarious, my sides will surely split...
Spielberg only barrowed from Hitchcock... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:43:20 PM
...because he was forced to, due to Bruce's tantrums when immersed in seawater. And I know there were studio fights because Benchley raised a ruckus and finally, they wised up and tossed him off the set. As Seagrass said - if Transformers is HALF as good as Independence Day, I, too, will be quite a happy camper. I fully realize Transformers is a movie based on a toyline; its not Ben Hur. Hell, it isn't even Spider-Man! But everything I've seen so far looks promising that it'll be a fun ride. And there's aboslutely no shame in that - up on my DVD wall I have Glenngary Glenross and Momento side-by-side with Jurassic Park and Stargate. I like ALL types of movies. And to be completely honest I totally forgot where I was going with this - so let's talk about the hotness that is Keeley Hazel.
RE: What the fuck does an Executive Producer do? by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:43:27 PM
?
Nice try! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:44:52 PM
Okay. I get it. Nobdy likes Michael Anerson on this site because he made Event Horizon. (Actually, I liked Event Horizon, but DePalma's version on TV was waaaaaaaaay better). But no...seriously. a) Lucas's Logan's Run RULES! and b) this other site claims, definitively, that Perceptor is NOT in Transformers. Oh well...there's always Part 2, right? (lol)
Lucas also directed The Godfather by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:47:54 PM
you fucking idiot!
SEE DEESE NUTS?! by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:47:57 PM
PERCEPT DEESE NUTS!!!
Gabriel Gray... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 01:48:23 PM
Lucas has DEFINETELY written some crap, BUT he's also responsible for three movies that helped shape my professional career and brightened my childhood. He ALSO wrote Indiana Jones, Herbie, and the FIRST American Grafitti....and hey, I liked Willow and Young Sherlock Holmes. Different Strokes, I suppose. He's no fucking Robert Frost, but he CAN tell a story.
Jeez. by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:50:00 PM
I don't appreciate being called an f-ing idiot. Just because I have an opinion!
LUCAS DIDN'T DIRECT LOGAN'S RUN by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:50:11 PM
STFU
Is Lost.Rules... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:50:13 PM
...Sean Connery? Because in my mind, I heard his "You fucking idiot!" with Sean Connery's voice. Uncanny! Know what's funny? Reading the old Conan comics, or original Robert E. Howard tales, but "imagining" Conan's lines being spoken by Arnold.
Cadillac Jones by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 01:51:19 PM
I think Spielberg borrowing from Hitchcock had more to do with the fact that he loves Hitchcock's films than anything else. I mean, the Vertigo shot in Jaws? It shows up again in E.T., and he definitely wasn't forced to put that in there. He just loves giving nods to his favorite filmmakers (or, some might say, stealing from them, but that's a whole different debate).
Yes. He DID! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:51:19 PM
what is an STFU?
Get your Transformers halloween costumes ready... by aceattorney	May 30th, 2007 01:52:07 PM
Bigger than Spidey and Witty Jack put together.
SK229...the entry I didn't have the patience to right. by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 01:52:35 PM
Well said...well said.
Telestream=Michael Bay by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:52:54 PM
How's that loser?
Re: Jurassic Park and Stargate by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 01:53:08 PM
Flawed but fun movies, I agree. Hell, thanks to Stargate, I have my guilty pleasure Stargate Atlantis to watch. Transformers will have plenty of problems I'm sure, but after seeing the way Starscream jumps, transforms and flies off in the trailer, AND watching Bonecrusher chase down that bus, AND finally hearing Peter Cullen's voice in action again...well, I'll be more than willing to overlook any of them. That's pure junk food for my inner brat.
Your opinion is wrong, telestream by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 01:53:15 PM
you don't know what you are talking about
SK... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:53:49 PM
...everything you just said was a reiteration of what Matty has said. The books you have mentioned, although I've only read about half, I would fathom were much better written and hold their own against the films, than Jaws did. I'm 30, for whatever reason.
Gariel...though he DOES need a script doctor... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 01:54:45 PM
Lucas CANNOT be responsible for writing a screenplay anymore. HE got ALOT of help on the original trilogy...credit him with story but he needs help writing dialogue. The prequels are testament to that.
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 01:55:09 PM
Willow was originally meant to be a Trilogy, but the studio forced Lucas to hack the story to pieces into a single film. For you Willow fans, you know Lucas co-authored some sequels in book form "Shadow Moon" "Shadow Dawn" Shadow Star" oh and I frakin loved "Howard the Duck"
Matty... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 01:55:53 PM
...no, I'm pretty sure in the interview on the DVD Spielberg admits he was forced to use a Hitchcockian approach because the shark backfired.
No. by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 01:56:33 PM
Opinions CAN'T be wrong. Because people have them inside. MY opinion is that Lucas made Logan's Run. You don't like it? Well tough knuckles! This is America and back off. No need to call people idiots or use the f-bomb. And oh yeah? If I equal Michael Bay, then I must equal AWESOME! (Zing! Comeback! Ouch!)
IM VERY STOKED ABOUT THIS MOVIE by BRUTICUS	May 30th, 2007 01:56:49 PM
LIE
THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BLOW YOU AWAY! by BRUTICUS	May 30th, 2007 01:57:10 PM
TRUE
Howard the Duck by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 01:57:55 PM
Good movie damn it! Talking smart ass horny duck. Hot Lea Thompson. Geeky Tim Robins! Freaky worm thing from outer space! What more could you want?
The only thing that could have saved Willow by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:00:59 PM
would have been to shelve it. God, I hated that flick. As kids, we used to call Kilmer's character "Madfartagain." We were so original.
Looks like a DEPARTED ripoff by J-Dizzle	May 30th, 2007 02:01:20 PM
Trailer looks good.
Brian's Life... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:01:54 PM
...is quite correct; all of Lucas' truly successful, good films have begun with his spark and the assistance of others, like Larry Kasdan on Raiders of the Lost Ark - my FAVORITE Lucas creation - hell that's where half my screenname here comes from! Spielberg's hands should be kept off scripts, though. The first season of SeaQuest was excellent - a great science-fact show. When the network didn't allow it to find it viewership, Spielberg messed things up by wanting script apporoval and upping the sci-fi junk (the giant alligator thawed from the arctic; the man-eating plant; the whole SeaQuest on an alien-waterworld). By the time Spielberg's damage was done, Roy Schieder wanted nothing to do with, Spieberg walked away from his own mess, and I'm not sure, but I think even Amblin dumped it on the third season. I quit half-way through Two.
My grammar is terrible by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:02:05 PM
today. I've been spending too much time reading Talkbacks, and now I am corrupted.
Cadillac Jones by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 02:02:18 PM
Haven't seen the doc, so I'll take your word for it. I was thinking mainly about the Vertigo shot, which has been repeated in a few of his subsequent films.
Brian's Life... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:02:43 PM
...is quite correct; all of Lucas' truly successful, good films have begun with his spark and the assistance of others, like Larry Kasdan on Raiders of the Lost Ark - my FAVORITE Lucas creation - hell that's where half my screenname here comes from! Spielberg's hands should be kept off scripts, though. The first season of SeaQuest was excellent - a great science-fact show. When the network didn't allow it to find it viewership, Spielberg messed things up by wanting script apporoval and upping the sci-fi junk (the giant alligator thawed from the arctic, the man-eating plant and my personal fave - the whole SeaQuest on an alien-waterworld). By the time Spielberg's damage was done, Roy Schieder wanted nothing to do with it, Spielberg walked away from his own mess, and I'm not sure, but I think even Amblin dumped it on the third season. I quit half-way through Two.
What is this? A George Lucas debate? by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 02:03:01 PM
I can't keep up with this TB. At least the shouting has died down a bit.
well telestream by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 02:03:30 PM
If you want to believe that someone did something that never really happened and there is evidence to prove it then yes, your opinion is wrong.
Errr....1941 was not the only flop Steven had... by Motoko Kusanagi	May 30th, 2007 02:03:43 PM
and I don't mean flop in a financial sense. But in an ultra big suckage kind of sense. Other annoying suckage-achievements by Mr. Overrat...err...Spielberg: M inority Report (lame) A.I. (godawful) Amistad (laughable) Always (obnoxious) Lost World (crappy borefest) Hook (stupid kids flick) I guess I just made new enemies...
Kloipy by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 02:05:04 PM
Your logic is flawed. But assume for a second that it's not flawed = the opinion you expressed in your last post is also WRONG. (How's that feel?)
Yack Backer by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:06:05 PM
We're discussing Star Wars Transformers and how the Obi-Wan Transformer has a robo-beard that apparently represents wisdom in elder robots, if I read some earlier posts above correctly, in regards to the cartoon Transformers having beards on Cybertron.
Fanaticism by Lawguy	May 30th, 2007 02:06:36 PM
Did I spell that right? Anyway, over 300 talkbacks for a TV spot? Does anyone else read them all at this point?
Minority Report by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 02:07:30 PM
was fantastic. Seriously. And I liked Hook, but, y'know, I was a kid at the time it came out. The Lost World was pretty unforgivable, though.
how is my logic flawed? by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 02:08:23 PM
Lucas didn't direct Logan's Run. The guy who directed Orca directed Logan's Run.
Munich,Minority Report,Schindler's List,E.T.,Jaws.... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:09:09 PM
Jurassic Park, Close Encounters, Raiders of the Lost Ark....uh yeah. We can forgive Spielberg when he makes a bad flick, cause he's made so many great ones. Bay on the other hand.......
No Enemy made her, Motoko... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:10:46 PM
I will disagree with you on Lost World; I thoroughly enjoyed it but when it comes to dinosaurs I have tunnel-view and tend to ignore things like "plot" in those movies. Someone mentioned Godzilla above. I guess it was only a matter of time before that old chestnut surfaced. I personally loved it and have it in my collection; it did everything a Godzilla movie was suppossed to do: had a big, reptilian monster tear-assing through a major city, fighting the Army and raising al sorts of hell. Yes - the dialogue was utter-shit. Yes - the baby Godzilla-raptors were a rip-off. But the FX were some pretty nice eye-candy, still hold up well, and I enjoyed it on that level. Why can't people just have FUN anymore?
OH MY GOD!!! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 02:12:56 PM
Orca the giant shark movie?!!! That was SPEILBERG, man!! Try checking the interweb before you jump all over other people with your "opinions". This AICN netsite is becoming really nasty and aggressive lately :( (frown face)
Ignore Telestream by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:13:17 PM
He's a fucktard! He probably still thinks Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. Afterall, it's his OPINION!
Haters by taekwondave	May 30th, 2007 02:14:05 PM
Seriously, all of you are outnumbered. You want your original-perfect-on-screen-ada ptation of a movie? Go watch Scooby Doo!
Spielberg by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 02:14:58 PM
Minority Report was going great until the last 10 mins or so. God, that happy ending was cringe-inducing. But up until then, that was some quality, dark sci-fi shit right there. I'm actually one of the few (or at least it seems like a few) that likes A.I. quite a bit. Sure, it has some problems, but I liked it overall. Haven't seen Amistad. Always wasn't terrible, but it seemed sort of unnecessary. Lost World is not only Spielberg's worst movie, it's a bad movie in general. And Hook. What more can be said of Hook? It's an interesting idea, but the execution is pretty awful. But he has made some really great movies, too. What's unfortunate is that the man seems to be force-feeding us Shia LeBeouf. If Shia is playing Indy's son in the next film, God Himself couldn't make that film work, much less the Berg. If Shia is just some pansy sidekick, it could work, but it'd require Spielberg to totally kick ass in every other respect. But yeah, it's too bad about Indy 4, because I was really looking forward to it before Shia was announced as a cast member.
DON'T YOU DARE-- by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 02:15:35 PM
bring October 11th into this.
"haters" by lionbiu	May 30th, 2007 02:15:45 PM
GOD FUCKING DAMN THAT STUPID WORD...ITS A FUCKING STUPID WORD USED WHEN SOMEONE CANT DEBATE WITH SOMEONE WITH A OPPOSING OPINION!!!
oops. by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 02:16:30 PM
September, I mean.
Stupiders by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:16:57 PM
Seriously, you got the numbers. If you hurry now, you can get in line and wait for Bay's new suckfest to come out. It's only a month away. Hurry Retards!
Re: Minority Report by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:17:19 PM
was a great movie, right up until Spielberg chickened out at the end. If he had taken the darker route, I think the movie would have been much better...but audiences would have hated it.
more beard discussion by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 02:19:47 PM
please, the more i think about them the more i like them. so why did scourge have on? evilwise?
Wow, Cadillac by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:20:55 PM
I liked Godzilla In Name Only, too. Except for the baby Godzillas. I was always hoping for a sequel, where one of the surviving Godzillas mutates, sprouts wings, and turns into RODAN. Rodan was a badass. Both of them were.
I seem to remember that by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:22:24 PM
I seem to remember that Cyclonus has a pimptastic goatee.
Cadillac Jones by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 02:24:38 PM
Robots with beards? Fascinating!
Hmm, I really can't see what was good about by Motoko Kusanagi	May 30th, 2007 02:25:15 PM
MINORITY REPORT. The look maybe. And some fx. I really wanted to like it back then but the story, the pacing, the weird undecided jumping from drama to comedy, the lame ending and lots of other little things just made it impossible for me to like.
Maybe Primus-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 02:25:38 PM
--was humanoid, and wrote beard-like protuberances into the Transformers' genetic "code" as it were. It's not like Transformers really evolve,d they were built one way or the other, they could be designed to mimic people.
ok now you jackasses are praising "Godzilla"? by Ricky Henderson	May 30th, 2007 02:25:51 PM
That's it, I give up, I'm outa here.
Not Cyclonus... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:26:36 PM
...whats-hiz-nuts, there...Scourge? Scourge! Yeah. He totally stole Batman's batmobile-wing-fin-thingies.
cadillac by lionbiu	May 30th, 2007 02:27:36 PM
although I like the sentiment...I cant forgive you for defending Godzilla. That movie was awful..so much hype and one of the best marketing campaigns imaginable and it fucked up badly. What says you cant have fun at a movie with intelligence, a great script and great characters...I had more fun watching 'The Thing' on cable two nights back than I did watching Spider-man 3 and Pirates 3 in the cinema.
Ricky... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:28:04 PM
...see? You're taking these things waaaaaaaay too seriously. Godzilla was fun. Gigli? Not so much.
Cyclonus by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:29:14 PM
Check it: skinny beard, goatee. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi kipedia/en/b/b4/Cyclonus_alt.j pg
Zen, my not so humble opinion and American Godzilla by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 02:29:47 PM
Umm.... if anyone hated Godzilla because it was a cheezy $#!+fest, I question if you have seen any of the original Godzilla movies. The Mathew Broderick Godzilla was Awesome!!! It was perfect, it was exactly what it was supposed to be. HUGS TO EVERYONE
Oh shit, I missed that Ricky! GODZILLA praise??? by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 02:30:00 PM
For shame, people.
Oh god please no! by Motoko Kusanagi	May 30th, 2007 02:31:12 PM
The annoying Gabriel kid is back.
Lion... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:32:17 PM
...but in the same turn, why does something have to be extremely deep and intellectual to be fun? As I've stated, there's more then enough room to like something dumb as well as something smart. I make no apologies for my film tastes, but at least they are broad and defined to one single genre or style. I like Citizen Kane as well as all the old Universal Monster flicks. Godzilla isn't as cringe-inducing as some of the intellectual snobs here would have you believe.
Why is everyone excited about this movie? by The Central Scrutinizer	May 30th, 2007 02:32:19 PM
It's going to be another CGI shitfest from Michael "The Hack" Bay.
Well.. by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:33:06 PM
I'm not really defending Godzilla. It was stupid, but fun. they probably should have called it something else...it was more like a remake of The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms to me. GINO was kind of a pussy, too. The real Godzilla would never have gotten stuck in a damn suspension bridgehell, the real Godzilla would never have fit on a suspension bridge. Still, it had its moments...just like Phantom Menace did, which was a hell of a lot more disappointing than GINO.
Nostalgia is a fanboy's kryptonite by ash_nyc_chelsea	May 30th, 2007 02:33:27 PM
I have been reading the posts in talkbacks for several years now and I have recognized a pattern that never fails. People glorify the past. Star Wars IV, Raiders, ET, etc.... Yes they were great films and all came out in the late seventies and eighties but do you also remember how many BAD films were also made back then. Maybe Transformers won't be as good as ET or Star Wars but I highly doubt it will be as bad as the horrendous sci-fi films of 2 decades ago like Robocop and many others which I cannot remember right now. My point is don't you think that on an average there are better more varied films being made today than decades ago when a good sci-fi/fantasy film came out once every few years. Star Wars, ET, and the "classics" are the milestones and groundwork for today's science-fiction. Transformers and Spiderman 3 may not be genius but they will be hell of a lot better than Superman IV or He-Man the Movie. Why doesn't anybody realize this.
SIZE DOES MATTER! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:34:21 PM
Godzilla:1985, now that was a good movie.
One of Spielberg's problems by Mattyboy122	May 30th, 2007 02:34:53 PM
Is that he often equates the grosses of his movies with their quality. A.I. wasn't a box office smash (it did make its money back, but it wasn't the big hit Spielberg had hoped it would be) and he now doesn't like the film very much. This unfortunately causes him to be a guy who doesn't take a whole bunch of risks. Sure, Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan were risks, but the sweeping sentimentality in his films is largely the byproduct of wanting his movies to be liked. So, I guess as an extension of this, if Transformers makes a lot of money, one might expect sequels produced by the Berg, for better or worse.
Robocop=horrendous???? by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:35:06 PM
You just crossed the line, buddy-boy.
Post deleted? by Mister Man	May 30th, 2007 02:35:40 PM
Strange.
Godzilla (1998) and praise/awesome/fun by just pillow talk	May 30th, 2007 02:35:54 PM
should NOT be used in the same sentence, even in jest. It was bad, bad, bad. And I am by no means an "intellectual snob".
nope by lionbiu	May 30th, 2007 02:35:59 PM
the original Godzilla movies were fun/cheese the remake was crap/shit/cheesey shit. They tried to explain what Godzilla was and how he formed...WHY?!!? Why does everything have to be explained? Add to that the disgustingly bad acting, the crappy script, the crappy action sequences which were ripped off several better movies and you get a shitty film which never reached its potential and did 'alright' at the box office.
Whoa whoa whoa-- "Robocop = horrendous"?!!! by Telestream	May 30th, 2007 02:36:16 PM
Your opinion is WRONG. Robocop = Siegel's best film (except for Magnum Force)
Robocop was bad? by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:36:32 PM
You, miss, have lost all your credibility.
Flames on Optimus=fanboy kryptonite by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:36:53 PM
Too bad it doesn't actually kill them...it actually makes them stronger.
Reserving judgement until I see hi-res scans... by PUSSY ON OPTIMUS	May 30th, 2007 02:36:57 PM
...of that gaping bot-slot on Prime. I'm not throwing down good money for CGI machine poon that hasn't been rendered enough or is only slightly less blocky and more realistic than the 80's cartoon version...which was designed only to sell toys.
I don't think "fun"... by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 02:37:06 PM
...should be an excuse for shoddy film-making. Spider-Man and Fantastic Four were both "fun", but Fantastic Four sucked and Spider-Man didn't. Jurassic Park and The Lost World were both "fun", but The Lost World sucked and Jurassic Park didn't. Empire Strikes Back and Attack of the Clones were both "fun"... etc. etc.
Seagrass by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:37:35 PM
Yeah okay - some of those pics look beardy. Some - not so much. But s'all good. Robo-beards are in. Thanks, Ash-NYC. I had completely forgotten Superman IV until now...you asshole. ;) Godzilla 85 WAS awesome! Those sailors at the beginning got attacked by by Godzilla's giant mutated lice. How cool izzat?!
Seagrass by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:39:06 PM
I can't stop laughing. Thank you, sir.
excellent by Necromunda	May 30th, 2007 02:39:54 PM
Dialog sounds like every other Bay film, shit. If I cut that trailer I would use as little talking as possible. More big 'plosions n' stuff. Because thats like Totaly Awesome Dude...
Wait, laughing at what? by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:40:08 PM
The fanboy comment or the fact thet GINO is a guilty pleasure of mine? Probably both, heh.
Pillow!!!!!! by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 02:40:20 PM
Sorry I was gone for so long. Had to do some marketing for FTB
Godzilla was just like the originals... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:41:42 PM
...with CGI instead of a rubber-suit. Dispute it all you want. Robocop was fantastic! It was an adult comic book and I savored every gory, hyper-violent moment of it. Robocop 2 was afterbirth. Robocop 3... ...what were talking about? Batman & Robin?
yo Kloipy! by just pillow talk	May 30th, 2007 02:43:19 PM
Your efforts are very much appreciated by "The Bates".
Yeah, ash_nyc_chelsea, stay away from the Angelica by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 02:43:24 PM
You're overdosing on arts-house arrogance. ROBOCOP is a great film.
I don't like Necromunda... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:44:06 PM
...but I do like Mordheim. Is that bad?
I've always wanted to say this: by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:45:11 PM
"Goddamn you, Michael Bay." Now I'm a true Talkbacker.
I wonder if by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:45:56 PM
Megatron is uncircumsized in his Protoform?
Godzilla:1985, Howard the Duck by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 02:47:29 PM
Have to find these movies some where and watch them again. Robocop is better than Terminator. Oh, yeah. I went there.
Micheal Bay and Jorge Lucas... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:48:00 PM
...both tag-teamed my childhoods in an orgy of blood! Not really, I was just following Seagrass...
guilty pleasure films by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 02:48:27 PM
PCU, Good Burger, Monster Squad, Freaked, Driving Miss Daisy
Cadillac Jones by Necromunda	May 30th, 2007 02:49:17 PM
I'll bring my Cawdor if you bring your Orlock.
Lawn power equipment at 8am by chrth	May 30th, 2007 02:49:19 PM
This is valid on workdays. Get a real job. It's only on weekends and holidays that you're supposed to wait until 10am.
guilty pleasuring films by chrth	May 30th, 2007 02:50:27 PM
my tutor, private school, excalibur
Dark Horse Comics... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:50:47 PM
...made a terminator vs. Robocop comic, which I think Acclaim made into a game for the Super Nintendo. Couldn't tell you anything about it, but there was an AWESOME gag in Tremors 3 where whats-hiz-nuts, the dad from Family Ties, walks into a grocery store and on the comic rack he sees some Dark Horse titles... Graboids... Shriekers... Graboids vs. Shriekers.
lost.rules by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:51:09 PM
is clearly delusional. The only thing better about Robocop is the fact that Kurtwood Smith in it.
Terminator: The Burning Earth by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:52:59 PM
One of the best licensed titles I've ever read, and still some of the best work Dark Horse ever released. THAT was how I envisioned the 3rd Terminator movie...now, those are my hopes for the 4th.
Necromunda by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:53:04 PM
It's on like Donkey Kong, beeeeeyatch! Awesome! We have some gaming nerds among us! Very cool. Tyranids will fuck your shit up, believe-you-me!
more! by Kloipy	May 30th, 2007 02:53:05 PM
ticks, kung pow, The Neverending Story
guity pleasure film by chrth	May 30th, 2007 02:55:37 PM
Center Stage
Seagrass... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:56:39 PM
You ever watch Politically Incorrect when it was on? There was an AWESOME one where Chevy Chase, Kurtwood Smith , NYPD Blue creator John Bronconto(sp?) and some bitch I never heard of was on. Anyhoo...long story short, the Bronconto(sp) dude was a complete asshole and shot down both Chevy and Kurtwood, saying "Chevy, I saw Vegas Vacation - it sucked. And Kurtwood - you were the bad guy in Robocop so shut the hell up!"
Ticks... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:57:51 PM
...is indeed a guilty pleasure because Amie Dolenz was in it. She was quite yummy back in the early 90's.
Some of My Guilty Pleasures by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 02:58:11 PM
Time Bandits, Cloak & Dagger, The Neverending Story, Howard The Duck, Clash of the Titans, Dragonslayer, Meaning of Life....
I saw that one by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 02:58:30 PM
That got some serious laughter.
Dragonslayer is NOT a guilty pleasure... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 02:59:45 PM
...that movie seriously rocks hard! Dragonheart, on the other hand...
My Science Project by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:00:11 PM
is guilty of many things.
RokurGepta-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:01:23 PM
Half those movies are actually good, though. No reason to feel guilty about them.
In fact, Rokur... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 03:01:59 PM
Of that list - the only guilty pleasures I see are Cloak & Dagger and Howard the Duck...all the others rock!
Also-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:02:18 PM
Is there any semi-definitive word on whether that voice actually IS Bumblebee, in contradiction to the earlier review and what people've said of the script? I know some people think it's actually Optimus, but I don't really hear Cullen in there...
Time Bandits and Cloak & Dagger by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:03:03 PM
and D.A.R.Y.L. were fantastic when I was a kid. Also, Flight of the Navigator!
OMG by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:03:19 PM
I heart "My Science Project"
seagrass-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:05:41 PM
Man, I'd like to see D.A.R.Y.L. and Flight of the Navigator again. I haven't seen either since I was about 10.
Nostalgia by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:05:41 PM
remember the cartoon "Dungeons & Dragons" I wish I could by that complete series on DVD
chrth by Sir Loin	May 30th, 2007 03:05:59 PM
Agreed (Center Stage)
This is ME talking about GUILTY PLEASURES by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:06:57 PM
What is the definition of guilty pleasures? I always assumed they were the movies you didn't want your friends to know you liked...but I'm seeing flicks like TIME BANDITS and CLASH OF THE TITANS & Monty Python?!? Those aren't guilty pleasures...THESE are guilty pleasures...THE SWEETEST THING, NIGHT OF THE CREEPS, THE MAN WITHOUT A FACE...oh, and ROBOCOP was the shit. Was when I was 8, still is.
My Science Project by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:07:27 PM
The title song for that movie equals "The Touch" from TF: The Movie in badness. "It's my sciiience projeeeeeect"
I Wish I Could Buy Stock In This Movie by cowboyone	May 30th, 2007 03:09:11 PM
This will demolish Spiderman's and Pirates Box Office.
This is ME talking about my shitty last post... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:09:30 PM
Day off. Rather high. Typing fast. Robocop is NOT a guilty pleasure...but here are a few more...Legally Blonde, Down with Love, The Life of David Gale, The last boyscout (and I don't even think THAT's guilty)
Sadly by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:10:43 PM
Transformers will not demolish either of those records. Only Harry Potter has a chance at doing so.
D.A.R.Y.L., The Last Starfighter, Flight of the... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 03:11:02 PM
Navigator, That Gorilla movie with Matthew Broderick, Short Circuit, Romancing the Stone, Batteries Not Included, Killbots, Child's Play, Darkman, Escape from New York, Golden Child, Goonies, The Thing, Can't Buy Me Love, Monster Squad, and so forth
Rokur... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 03:11:17 PM
You can. Go to Amazon.com $30 for the whole taco. Now if only they'd release Inhumanoids and Mighty Orbots.
I hated Darkman by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:12:12 PM
but loved The Golden Child. "I-I-I-I want the kniiiiife"
when I was in high school by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:12:29 PM
people made fun of me for owning Time Bandits, Clash of the Titans, and yes I'm hella shocked, but people made fun of me for owning Meaning of Life... since then I've put those movies in my "Private" collection
That Gorilla Movie... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 03:13:03 PM
...starring Ferris Bueller and Helen Cunt was Project X.
Oh, and all those movies we're nostalgic for.... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 03:14:12 PM
will get remade into crappy, inferior films in the very near future. I'm looking at you, Rob Zombie!
Life's too short... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 03:14:54 PM
...to worry about what people think of your movie tastes, dude. Unless...y'know...its some shit like "Debbie Does 101 Dalmations" Then yeah - keep that BEHIND the titles in the cupboard.
When did Bumblebee get a deep voice? by LordEnigma	May 30th, 2007 03:15:17 PM
Seriously? Bumblebee is a bad ass now? Really? Good lord, that's hilarious. Good going Michael Bay!
RokurGepta-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:16:44 PM
You went to high school with some assholes. Only explanation.
well I did go to a private christian high school by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:17:12 PM
and that messed with my head for years.....YEARS.... YEARS
Rokur...& anyone remember MIRACLE MILE by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:17:27 PM
I hear ya...but in the same vein people in high school made fun of me 'cause I used to READ BOOKS! What a concept! On a guilty pleasure note, anyone remember MIRACLE MILE with Anthony Edwards and Mare Winninghame. It was about a man (Edwards) that gets a phone call accidentally telling him that the US is about to enter a nuclear war with the USSR...for an obscure flick I caught on HBO and downloaded a few months ago...top notch.
Ahhhhh by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:17:44 PM
It all makes sense now.
perfect example of how crappy my school was by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:21:15 PM
in junior high, I got in trouble for bringing "A Wrinkle in Time" to school to read during lunch.
Miracle Mile... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 03:21:18 PM
...Kurt Fuller when he runs out on the roof and says "That thing's going all the way to Tija-fucking-uana!"
rickyhenderson by slkboxrman	May 30th, 2007 03:21:36 PM
first off, STFU... second, this is the internet..and not typing out whole words and punctuating correctly is not an estimate of education or intelligence. this isnt a resume for a prospective employer so get off your well punctuated throne and lay off.... and anyone that has read that years old script knows its years old and has since stopped referencing it. there are 20 action pieces in the film as opposed to only 5 in spiderman 3....i dont think all 20 will fit into the space of 20 min at the end of the movie...and even robert orci said that reading a script is misleading due to the fact that a whole scene of 15 or 20 min of action can be summarized in one or two sentences....anyone that likes the movie is not a PLANT, some of us actually arent as anal as the minority of you are now...the movie will undoubtedly break spider man 3s record....i believe that even more since pirates 3 couldnt beat pirates 2 opening weekend....thats not good....sequels are not bringing in what they used to, transformers will set marks that wont be broken for a long time... u must be fuming....OMG no capital letters, no apostrophes, take a zanax like u usually do...peace
Guilty Pleasure? by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:24:12 PM
the tv show "The Tomorrow People"
RokurGepta-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:28:05 PM
That's fucked up. I also have a fucked up story about A Wrinkle in Time! My fiance went to a shitty public school outside Detroit. She took a "Modern Novels" class her senior year. Her teacher assigned them A Wrinkle In Time--a book I read in the 4th grade for school. Now, nothing wrong with lighter reading, and that whole series does go some weird places and get kinda complicated. But get this. I shit you not, they didn't just READ the book--the teacher had them read along to the book on tape in class. Fucking 17 and 18 year olds sitting there listening to A WRINKLE IN TIME during class for god knows how many weeks. Because she didn't trust them to read it on their own. How fucked is that?
Slkoxrman...nah uh by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:33:20 PM
You're entitled to believe what you want about Transformers...but I highly doubt that it will have a Spidey 3 performance at the box office. Just NOT gonna happen. Most of the people I know that aren't fanboys couldn't really give a fuck about it. Not only that, I feel word of mouth is gonna REALLY hurt it. Spider-Man 3 was a movie everyone felt that HAD to see because Spidey 2 was so enjoyable, some people still remember how much THE ISLAND sucked..and in film circles people KNOW Bay is a coked up lunatic that should be directing Aerosmith videos.
slkboxrman-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:34:03 PM
Dude, if you think TF is gonna break Spidey-3's record, you're dreaming. I agree it might do very well, but that just isn't gonna happen. Look, mo movie Michael Bay has ever done has grossed more than about 200 million bucks--and Bay has been making movies just like this one for a long time. I admit, this may be his most successful movie ever--it's got a built-in fanbase his other flicks didn't. But how big is that fanbase really? I live in Boston, with about 500,000 people aged 18-30, and I've yet to see any trailer or commercial for this movie get the same kind of applause that Harry Potter or even Die Hard does. Hell, I've heard people start booing the second Bay's name comes on the screen. I will not be surprised if this flick makes 250 million, even 300 million--but 150 mil in 3 days? Not a chance.
The Tomorrow People! by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:37:59 PM
Great show (and a great band in the 90s!). I even have the soundtrack! My favorite episode: the one with the giant, pink bubbles that chased people around.
Iron Giant would kick their bot asses by Syd Mead	May 30th, 2007 03:39:25 PM
There's not enough out there to call this retarded (mentally challenged) yet so this has not dropped off my viewing list. Oh...80's cheese. Re-Animator, Night Of The Comet, Horror-Vision, Space Hunter: Adventures In The Forbidden Zone, Yor: Hunter From The Future... THAT was a decade for nacho-cheesy good flicks. When's the last time a movie title used : after the name????
Syd Mead-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:41:56 PM
I dunno, I seem to remember some movie... what's it... Pirates Of the Caribbean: At World's End, maybe? ;)
This is ME talking about MICHAEL BAY by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:43:27 PM
For those that want to work in the film industry, I hear there is no one better AND worse to work for than Bay. He's apparently a gigantic cock on set, and downright insulting if something is not going right (which happens 50% of the time) BUT he shoots with no breaks so crew cleans up on overtime and meal penalties. I know guys who have bought cars off of their meal penalties on a 2 month Bay shoot.
Year of the Comet vs. Night of the Comet by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:44:21 PM
Wine and cheese or zombies and cheese?
Brians Life-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 03:46:33 PM
So, essentially, if you're willing to get paid a shitload of money to be abused by your employer for a few months, he's the guy to go to? Interesting.
bumblebee was holding by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 03:50:34 PM
the hellraiser box. shia is about to enter a world of pain.
Its kind of like a Greenhouse in here... by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 03:50:43 PM
what with all these plants in here. I bet if you go over to the Don Murphy (is a hack) site, there will be hardly any activity over the past few days. It seems all those pole smokers have made a concerted effort to come over here and praise the shit out of michael bay and this POS. so sad...
Comets, and the 80's by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:52:08 PM
Remember the episode of "Benson" when a comet came, and turned everyone to dust? and the episode of the Cosby show, if I remember correctly a comet flew over, and men became pregnant, and Dr. Huxtable gave birth to a submarine sandwich? lolz
Prime Lips... by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 03:53:50 PM
If only he was holding the Hellraiser Box. then you might be able to explain how Shia LaQueef is able to kill Megatron.
primelips by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 03:53:53 PM
very funny. hope it's true
zb.brox...ain't it always the way? by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:54:50 PM
Sadly his movies make enough money that producers already factor his workstyle into the budget...they just accept that he's going to go over 12 hours and he's not gonna break for meals. AD's don't even try to tame him. He's like Paris Hilton.
Remember this Movie? by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 03:55:20 PM
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt008 7451/ Guilty Pleasure or Not? Someone should make a website "Guilty Pleasure or Not", i.e. "Hot or Not" thoughts?
it does look like by slappy jones	May 30th, 2007 03:56:10 PM
a majority of the action takes place at one time..allthe money stuff seems to be in the same setting...same time....but it looks fucking amazing
I wonder if I can get paid to watch Mike Bay's movies by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 03:56:29 PM
I mean doing it the other way around sounds terribly foolish!
He's like Paris Hilton... by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 03:56:36 PM
But with a little less cocaine in his system. Which is still enought o kill a Pygmie Elephant.
Remember that Hogan Family when they became Zombies... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 03:56:56 PM
Can't remember if it was Pre or Post Sandy Duncan....MAN, did she suck.
Tehgreekhammer likes it Greek style by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 03:57:23 PM
It takes a pole smoker to know a pole smoker. Trust me, if the movie sucks, I'll be on here the next day proclaiming its suckiness. Being an intelligent person, I'll reserve judging something until I actually see it...unlike you children who constantly parrot each other all day with gems such as: "Michael Bay sucks! Goddamn you Michael Bay! Lick my taint Michael Bay! Michael Bay ate my fetus!" All you know how to do is proclaim how much something sucks, without any reasonable argument or evidence show why it sucks.
greenlight GI Joe by stvnhthr	May 30th, 2007 03:57:50 PM
Will someone please greenlight GI Joe already? Can we start a talkback with our ideal cast of actors and characters. I'll start it off with casting Josh Holloway as Shipwreck, who wants to go next?
so reading the script by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 03:59:14 PM
and thinking that it sucks, doesnt constitute a reasonable argument for why I think this movies going to suck?
Paris Hilton>Michael Bay by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:00:45 PM
At least she's going to jail. At least her movie is better than all of Bay's stuff combined.
Seagrass-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 04:00:53 PM
If someone thinks every movie Michael Bay has made until now sucks, the script sucks, the designs suck, the cast sucks, and the publicly stated choices of theme and plotline suck, that isn't enough for them to be reasonably convinced the film will suck? I mean, you should always hold out hope that you'll be pleasantly surprised, but I didn't go see Delta Farce or Epic Movie on that off-chance.
PArdon me by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 04:01:58 PM
for not cumming in my pants because there are explosions in this movie. explosions, and giant blurry robots, and a pair or glasses, and Shia Laboof
Note: by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 04:02:39 PM
I'm not quite so negative on the film as the theoretical person I assign all those opinions to, for the record, but not as far off as I'd like.
scripts mean nothing by Bouncy X	May 30th, 2007 04:03:23 PM
this is an old "excuse" used a lot here but its true....how many good movies had shitty scripts or vice versa. especially action oriented scripts.
I watched Gili by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:03:52 PM
And Glitter. And Swept Away. All 4 star movies. Critics and "haters" are always wrong.
No, it doesn't by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:04:55 PM
All that does is show a partial argument, with evidence that may or may not have changed in the time it has been in the world. Without seeing the film, I'd like you to: Prove that the effects suck, prove that the voice talent sucks, prove that the actors suck. Goddamn fanboy motherpussbuckets always have to whine about everything, and if something doesn't meet your liking, you automatically insult people who have opposing views. I could care less if you like the film, just quit fucking telling me that I should hate it because you do.
Bouncy X-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 04:05:43 PM
But what are the odds a crappy script given to a crappy director will transmogrify into gold? Usually at least one of those elements had to be good for the movie to end up right...
Crossroads by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:06:12 PM
Best...Movie...Ever!
Seagrass-- by zb.brox	May 30th, 2007 04:07:56 PM
1: When did I say anyone else should hate it? 2: You can't "prove" anything, on a fundamental level, you can only establish strong and weak probabilities. All those things stacked together? Strong probabilities. 3: I don't recall insulting anyone regarding TFs, either. Wanna prove I did?
Scripts, Acting,Direction,Sound,Music,Eff ects... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:08:13 PM
ALL MEAN NOTHING! What truly makes a movie good is the Best Boy Grip. Everything depends on him.
zb.brox by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:10:16 PM
I don't have any problems with your opinion at all, but how would you like it if someone judged you on your past failures and nothing else? For example, if Tehgreekhammer couldn't get a girl off with his tongue 9 times out of 10, does that mean he won't ever be able to get a girl off, period? I also seem to remember that The Rock is more well-liked rather than hated. Spielberg has had plenty more failures than Michael Bay, but no one constantly shouts to the heavens "Spielberg? That hack fucking directed Hook! I won't ever go see a Spielberg film again!"
Im not a Michael Bay hater. by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 04:10:41 PM
I liked the Rock, I liked Con Air, I liked parts of Armageddon, and think that his car chase scene from Bad Boys 2 is one of the biggest and best ones ever put on film. Is he competely dropping the ball by disregarding the older designs in favor of a mechanical mishmash of stuff? Absotively. Will I pay to see this abortion? hell no. Ill be giving my money to whatever other movie oopens that weekend and sneak into theater showing this and basking in the mediocrity of Shia Laqueefs acting, and thinking about how Harry sold his soul to promote this turd.
Also, zb.brox by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:12:46 PM
I was referring to people like Tehgreekhammer, not people such as yourself, who seem to be able to form coherent sentences. I totally respect your opinion, but please, wait until you've seen the movie before you bash it...if you are even interested enough to go in the first place. See where I'm coming from?
Seagrass by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 04:13:33 PM
Your mom only gets off when I give it to her Greekstyle.
Wait until you see the movie before you... by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 04:14:49 PM
praise it and proclaim it to be the greatest thing since penicillin. Which I also need after sticking it in your moms pooper.
Tehgreekhammer by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:16:51 PM
The older designs would never have worked. I'm an old-school TF fan, and I still think that Optimus looked like a pussy in his vehicle form back in the day. Bumblebee looked like a chubby kid holding a pair of doughnuts. The robot designs may be busy, but they look like something that could actually exist in the real world. Now, Skids...there was a REAL Autobot.
This movie will BLOW by nelwack	May 30th, 2007 04:16:58 PM
Why am I the only one that sees this for what it is? We're currently watching the Comic Book world getting raped by the movie industy, now they're tapping the whole 80's nostalgia craze. They know you losers who grew up watching MEGATRON giving JOHNNY FIVE a handjob now have disposable income and free movie nights.... you do the math.
I've never once by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:18:57 PM
proclaimed it to be the best thing ever. I'm just looking forward to it, that's all. But when people like you come in here and insult people like me just for doing so, well, you understand why we get pissed. Having a little optimism goes a long way.
Don't all women by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:20:25 PM
get off when you give it to them Greek-style? That's nothing new.
Bumblebee by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:22:21 PM
Think I'm wrong about the old-school designs? Put this on a big screen and watch people laugh your ass out of a job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I mage:Bumblebee-boxart.jpg
Bumblebee redux by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:23:43 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi kipedia/en/5/59/Bumblebeeflies .jpg Complete and total asstastickery.
First off, BIG HUGS TO YOU ALL. by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:23:58 PM
I love you each in your own special way. As I have said before this is a pointless argument. You cannot argue over whether Bay is good or not. He makes mass produced cheesy popcorn flicks. Is he good at making these MTV style movies? YES. Can anyone dissagree with that? NO. What you are arguing about is whether you enjoy mass produced MTV style popcorn flicks. I love every type of film from the smallest world cinema piece to the biggest event movie out there. Some people do not. I actually think of it as to different interests altogether. The same part of my brain which enjoys a Bay film is not the same part of my brain which enjoys watching the original Solaris. True a lot of films cross this boundry in someway. You could say that Spiderman and Batman Begins show how small art can come into contact with big ideas and succeed. But there will always be the type of movie which is just pure art and the type of movie which is just pure entertainment. I don't think anyone including myself who enjoys Bay is pretending he is anything more than he is. Was the emotion in Armegeddon mass produced, cheesy, written by 11 people in a big room, shallow, false attempt to tug my heart strings? YES. Did it work? YES. The hairs on my neck stood up and I cried when Bruce died. Sorry if I enjoy having a good cry in a movie. It's as much fun as laughing or being scared in my opinion. This film will have the same false emotion and big action and no-one can say i'm wrong when I say I enjoy that.
I have a feeling... by Heckles	May 30th, 2007 04:26:42 PM
...that behind this trailer, there is more than meets the eye. Ugh, I hate myself for that. That was on par with Prime's flames, Greedo shooting first and Harry's reviews.
Am I caving in? by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 04:29:32 PM
or what? It seems the more trailers I watch for Transformers, the more I am actually starting to crave watching the movie, I need my transformers fix damn it, and Independence Day is just too god damn far away. where is the advance screener damn it? on another note "Ice Pirates" Guilty Pleasure or not?
That's Peter Cullen's voice! by Nick Michalak	May 30th, 2007 04:31:34 PM
Just because it's Bumblebee on the screen, you fucking TransFans should know the voice of Optimus Prime / Peter Cullen! It's deeper than it was back in the mid-80s, but that's his voice. Not to mention, Bumblebee's voice capacitor is damaged back on Cybertron - before the film begins. Bumblebee communicates in a very non-vocal, unorthodox manner throughout the movie. Check your facts, fellas!
Bearded Transformers = Nipples on Batsuit by finky089	May 30th, 2007 04:31:52 PM
Let's hope Michael Bay decides to include such memorable Auotbots as Wheelie and Blurr in TINO: Part 2 Tokyo Drift.
And hi Robertsilence, - what is going down by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:32:37 PM
in Club Neil tonight? Cocktails at 9? Yes please. Oh and welcome to the club lost.rules. Sorry if you could just remove your shoes before you come in. Sorry? What? Oh no I'll put them in the closet with the rest of the shoes. What's that? Who's the boy in the corner? He's our club retard. Yes you can take him to the zoo.
Alpha Trion had a fumanchu thing going on! by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 04:34:06 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2lvxjp
TISNF by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 04:35:21 PM
I havn't been invited to any club :(
meltedfacetoht I don't think anyone by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:36:36 PM
expects this film to be anything better than say Armaggedon or Bad Boys 2. You can say they are shit films but thats like me saying all musicals are shit just becasue they are not my taste (which they are). We are not expecting for Bay to have improved or changed in any way. It's a case of 15 - 20% of Tbers who simply don't care and will sit back and watch a Bay flick.
pjdon, you rock by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:36:48 PM
Thanks for the positive input. We need a Word Processor of the Gods, just for all the fanboys on here. "DELETE FANBOYS." I wonder if I would vanish as well?
tehgreekhammer, Simon West directed CON AIR by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 04:37:06 PM
Not Bay. But it was a Bruckheimer movie. What's funny is that most people think Bay directed CON AIR, which in my mind tells me he is both imitable and repetitive.
Con Air was a good movie by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:41:17 PM
That's how you can tell that Michael Bay didn't direct it.
Re: Bumblebee's dialogue by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:41:24 PM
That's still better than anything he said in the 80's cartoons.
RokurGepta you'll have to ask Silence - by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:41:46 PM
I currently hold head chair in "The Neil Cumpston to review everything" club. But silence makes the choices. But come in and I'll say he must have been drunk and let you in then forgot. That always works with people. take off your shoes though.
Bumblebee doesn't talk? by mondoz2	May 30th, 2007 04:42:02 PM
WTF? Bumblebee doesn't actually talk? Is that right? That's more annoying than the flames, the lips, or your mom. But not your mom's lips.
This is ME talking about BAY by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 04:42:42 PM
He's not yet made a good movie. Why are we still arguing about this?!? He's directed a couple of cool scenes in his entire career. Remember that scene in ARMAGEDDON when they're getting the psyche test....ohhhhhh...how tired. Oh, the big black man is asking for a hug and weeping...comedy gold. I cried at the end of Where A Red Fern Grows, The Yearling, and Man Without A Face....but ARMA-fuckin'-GEDDON!?! I don't think Liv Tyler has a soul.
Con Air is no more crddible than by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:43:23 PM
anything Bay has done. I do love it though and its is possibly one of my most re-watched films. So much fun when your drunk.
Sorry I meant Credible by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:44:52 PM
not crddible which of course is a type of small sock.
Thanks for the love seagrass by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:48:07 PM
I do feel for people who are TF fanboys but I think they are mixing up what they think would be right with what would make an entertaining film. I think this film should come from a human perspective, it's the only way to get peole to except the verisimilitude of the situation. Maybe the second film will focus more on the bots as characters once the world has excepted them.
This movie will BLOW...again by nelwack	May 30th, 2007 04:48:22 PM
I think my problem with Transgender is that its an obvious sign of whats to come in hollywood: Kids growing up and making big giant movies out of what they thought was cool when they were in third grade eating there own boogers.
This is ME talking about WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 04:49:19 PM
For me, it's not that this is a Bay Movie and that's why it is destined to suckstown...it's that it's a TRANSFORMERS movie in live action that I've always wanted to see and that Bay is directing it, the script is gawd-awful, i don't enjoy ANY of the cast particularly...sucks. I'm not apologizing for it (which so many are nowadays) but I LOVED the animated Transformers movie....LOVED IT! It was much more than a toy commercial to me. I can't imagine that Bay's movie will have anything as powerful as when a crushed Megatron is floating towards Unicron...MEGATRON: "NOBODY summons Megatron! UNICRON: Than it pleases me to be the first.." I dunno...
This Summer Belongs to Transformers!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:51:14 PM
Until Fanstic Four:2 comes out a week later. Then Harry Potter the week after that. The The Simpsons the week after that.
As for people criticising the script. by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:51:35 PM
1: Have you read many action movie scripts? They don't read that well , there is no real tension as that comes from the visual aspects and the dialouge sounds false. 2: The script is probably STILL being altered, bits taken out addeed etc. The script we read was over a year ago or something. I'm sure it will have changed, a lot. 3: A crap script can make a brilliant film and a great script can make a shite film.
Bumblebee's line of dialogue... by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 04:53:45 PM
at the end of the film he says "My Bad"
But here's the biggest clue it will suck....... by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:54:05 PM
psssst... It's directed by Michael Bay.
Remember when Optimus... by dramirezs23	May 30th, 2007 04:55:07 PM
Remember when optimus was a Gorilla? His best friend was a rat and a cheetah. The sequel to this should be a beast wars themed movie, I think my head would explode if I ever saw that.
Brians Life do you actuallt think by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 04:56:04 PM
they could just make a live action film with the same plot as the cartoon movie. That would be crap. There is no earth scenes set anywhere other than Autobot HQ so there would be no sense of scale for the robots. They could all be 2 ft tall. They are only giant robots in relation to us. Also would you really like to see the musical number on the trash plannet. Robots with beards. A big pink girl bot. A transformer fishing? Imagine how rediculous that would all be live action. Fishing! And you complain about the bots being in Shias back yard?
PJDon by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 04:57:18 PM
1. Most action movie scripts I've read actually read BETTER than the end product. Especially those from the 80's (Predator, Robocop, Lethal Weapon). Also the SUPERMAN RETURNS scripts reads very much like what's onscreen. The Star Wars scripts are describtive as well. Generally, you can tell what's gonna happen onscreen from the finished script. 2. Granted, but I'm just taking into account what I've seen of past screenplays that Bay is attached to and what he does with character and emotion. 3. Hell of a generalization. Examples?
The animated movie by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 04:58:12 PM
I have fond memories of it, but even when I was a kid, I hated three things about the movie. Number 1: "The Touch". Both times. Terrible. Number 2: "Dare to be Stupid"/the universal greeting. Ugh. Number 3: Blurr's voice. I blame Micro Machines for that.
Brian's Life and Pjdon! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 04:59:11 PM
Are you ready to RUUUUUUMMMMBBBBBBLLLLLLEEEEEEE E?
PJ...uhm..nope. by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:01:17 PM
I don't think a live action movie with the same plot as the animated movie would be appropriate at all. Didn't say that...just that I enjoyed it and think it's better than most give it credit. Don't think that one bit...I DO think that a Transformers movie should focus MUCH MORE on the TRANSFORMERS than it should the human characters though.
dramirezs23 - BEAST WARS by nelwack	May 30th, 2007 05:01:27 PM
Fuck, they probably WILL make a movie out of stupid ass Beast Wars becouse some punk ass who was a teenager in the 90's and liked it will grow up and go to hollywood in the future. I predict a beast Wars movie by 2020...
Brian's life by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:03:29 PM
Jabs with the left!
Bah Weet Granah Weet Nini Baum by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:05:36 PM
or something to that effect. Yeah, geek. I dunno, I still get a hell of a kick out of the Stan Bush tunes...cheddar. fuckin' cheddar. Yeah, Micromachines were HUGE at the time...I thought Blur's voice was appropriate...character that moves fast. I dug it.
Pjdon by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:06:52 PM
He's on the Ropes!
Pjdon by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:07:58 PM
He's Down! And the ref is counting!
Seagrass by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 05:08:41 PM
Just to set the record straight you were the one that insulted me first. I only came back at you with the "yo momma" stuff as a rebuttal to your pole smoker reference. Im not saying that bumblebee needed to be a Volkswagon Beetle but making him a Camaro is dumb because he was always the runt of the litter. Making him a bad ass camaro kind of goes against the whole idnetity of the character. He could have been a Mini, or a civic, or some other crappy POS car that gets an update (and a supercharger). take a look at this and tell me a design like this wouldnt have worked. http://tinyurl.com/2ze5vs I promise you its not a meatspin.com site.
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ALL OF YOU -- fuckin' rollercoaster by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:08:59 PM
Sometimes I CAN'T STAND the rest of the TALKBACKERS and than there are those moments you realize that the reason you're so frustrated is that you're talking to some one that is just as passionate as you are.....fucking life.
9 by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:09:14 PM
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Blurr has a beer and cheets on his Wheelie by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 05:09:19 PM
or should it be the other way around?
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Nelwack remember by dramirezs23	May 30th, 2007 05:10:57 PM
that they eventually got home and they were still animals for some reason? Except now they were like techno organic animals, that was fucking retarded.
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Tehgreekhammer by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 05:11:36 PM
I beg to differ. Your words: "It seems all those pole smokers have made a concerted effort to come over here and praise the shit out of michael bay and this POS. so sad..." You called everyone who is pulling for this movie a pole smoker.
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I do actually love the animated movie by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:11:51 PM
but it is no way what i would expect from a live action version. As for the script thing I think that this type of action movie is so action orientated that large sections of the action would where just described in afew words. It's like the whole 'they run down the staircase' bit in the LOTR script which turned into a brilliant scene. Brian's life - do you think that the script for TF or the movie itself will be any different in tone than Bay's previous films? No? Well then i'll enjoy it.
Come on Pjdon! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:11:55 PM
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YES! Pjdon Gets back up! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:12:51 PM
Oh, folks. I think were in for one hell of a fight.
Let's play a game... by Boober	May 30th, 2007 05:14:04 PM
All you talkbackers who grab your shit from the monkey-cage floor and fling it at the audience in regards to ANY upcoming flick...please post what you consider to be GREAT movies... because I think some of us would rather like to wing our own flaming bags at endlessly screaming moronic simians who equate importance to the attention they get from playing in their own excrement. Cheers!
Do it by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 05:14:33 PM
I dare you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FvpMcS9bXKw anyone know where I can find the junkions song?
I had no clue what all the bloody counting was for by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 05:14:35 PM
But I like to cause disruptions!
"IT'S YOU AND ME NOW!" by Mogwai Democracy	May 30th, 2007 05:15:09 PM
"... SO LETS SEE YOU JUST DROP THEM PANTS."
what are we counting down? by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 05:16:35 PM
Hows was everyones M-day.
Goodbye friends! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 05:17:17 PM
Enjoy the rest of you TB. I love you guys, and God Bless Michael Bay!
meltedfacetoht and Brian by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:17:21 PM
what I meant was more of a case of scripts that read like crap but up on screen are great. I read the script for SinCity and Crank and they where practically unreadable. Crank was downright embarresing but on screen it turned out brilliantly. And we all know that any number of good scripts can be ripped apart when it comes to shooting. Just look at how many writters try and disasoicate themselves with their work Frank Miller for one.
Your perogative by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:17:31 PM
And I will not enjoy it and PJDon, I am a rather selfish person. To me, it's a waste. I'm not one of those "be greatful it got made" type people...product for the sake of product doesn't do it for me. I'm not happy JUST BECAUSE there's a Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four movie...I want GOOD ones. That's all. I expect a rudimentary introductory story from ANY live action adaptation...just not in this mishandled a manner.
I'm also happy by seagrass	May 30th, 2007 05:17:56 PM
that Jazz's face looks almost exactly like it did in the cartoons and comic. The visor is spot on. Jazz, Sideswipe, and Sunstreaker were badass when I was a kid. I don't mind Bumblebee as a 2007 Camaro, which doesn't look like a muscle car to me. He probably should have been a yellow Solstice, though...Jazz would have been perfect as a black Camaro. However, there is no "old" version of the Solstice in existence, so the contrast between the old and new models for Bumblebee's upgrade would have been lost.
Imagine my surprize when I came back from my by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:18:12 PM
smoke break to see a countdown had started to my destruction.
Be Constructive! by Boober	May 30th, 2007 05:18:46 PM
B-E-CONSTRUCTIVE!!!
Boober by nelwack	May 30th, 2007 05:18:55 PM
Whats a GREAT movie? Is it a movie you enjoy? If thats the case, Commando is a great movie.
Boober, that's easy by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 05:19:28 PM
How far back do you want me to go? GODFATHER? RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? PULP FICTION? EMPIRE STRIKES BACK? SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? CHILDREN OF MEN? PAN'S LABYRINTH? THE GREAT ESCAPE? There are literally hundreds of movies that are better than the shit people are fighting here to protect-- esp. films by Mike Bay!
"The nose don't pick the coke, the coke picks the nose" by Mogwai Democracy	May 30th, 2007 05:20:05 PM
SNORT FOR THE EDIT. 7/4/07 When are we going to get Bay to do one of these talkbacks? It would be truly epic.
Look what I discoverd by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 05:23:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =d3uA-KDP5Zw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ntjVthsbOEs\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =eluBw3aVYXI&mode=related&sear ch=
Start Throwing Shit.... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:24:28 PM
The Star Wars Trilogy, Children of Men, The Great Escape, Stalag 17, Silence of the Lambs, Halloween, Night of the Living Dead, Day of the Dead, Delicatessen, Yojimbo, The Three Amigos, Caddyshack, Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Excalibur,Goonies, Ferris Bullers Day Off, Dazed and Confused, Pi, The Man Who Wasn't There, Memento,Seven, Fight Club, Mission Impossible, Poseidon Adventure, Munich, Jaws, Shawshank redepmtion, One flew over the Coo coo's nest, rservoir dogs...this is pointless as I could name movies I love all day.
Hey!!!! The Movie Commando by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 05:26:13 PM
had Alyssa Milano!!!
OK fling away by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 05:27:20 PM
Bullitt, Superman II, ESB,Die Hard Like YB said there are too many movies better this POS.
Brians Life Ghost Rider and FF by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:27:27 PM
could have easily been deeper more interesting movies. I don't have nearly the same respect for TF as I do for characters which have been around twice as long and have interesting subtext to them. TF has alwayus been a visual thing for me. I just want the action with some cheesy Bay emotion to help it along. If you think about it the original TF where not really giant robots in a lot of the cartoons/comics. They didn't interact much with humans and so like I said they where just like normal people. They didn't even change into vehicles a lot of the time. I only think Tf would work live action as a 'what if' type movie. Okay it's not the movie you dreamt of but I don't think a smaller director could have ever given you the visual action the material requires.
I would like to point out Mogwai Democracy's post above by Yack Backer	May 30th, 2007 05:27:39 PM
As being very funny.
RokurGepta by nelwack	May 30th, 2007 05:28:23 PM
hell yeah. the Begining is great becouse you see Ah-nuld tossing her around the pool like she's a rag doll. Ah-nuld also trashes Boy George in the first few minutes...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS (STILL) = NIPPLES ON BATMAN by robogeek.com	May 30th, 2007 05:31:18 PM
Haven't said it in awhile, and it really can't be said enough. (Though I do love me my giant robot action, and hence can't _not_ see this movie. Dammit.)
Brians Life i love the fact that you by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:32:48 PM
have The Three Amigos and Pi in the same list. I just found myself trying to remember the 3 amigo dance. Also appreciate your love for the underappreciated Mission Impossible. Classic De Palma. What do you think about MI:III? I thought it was one of the most intense action thrillers I have ever seen but was let down by a cheesy ending (Tom and his missus don't ebven act like they have just been through a terribe ordeal) what is wrong with the way movies used to just end on the last important scene intead of showing you what happens straight after and the next day etc.
PJDon...I like the cut of your jib by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:33:21 PM
whatever the fuck that means. I just look back on the promise that he was gonna please ALL the fans...ah, whatcha gonna do right? I think we'll have to do something that's a rarity here and end a conversation civilly....although I do think it depends entirely on what you mean by "visual action"...Bay certainly doesn't have the license on visual style. I'm just looking for more than a things go smashy smashy flick. I want to care about Optimus Prime...be invested in his struggles in the movie.
I had a whole lecture on Commando by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:35:10 PM
when I did my film and media degree. We spent half an hour analysing the opening as a means of setting up character and montage etc. Arnuld and daughter feeding a deer is my favorite movie shot of all time.
PJ...loved the ACTION in MI3 buuuuut by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:36:24 PM
I was expecting Tom and his "Gal" to jump in the air and freeze frame for the ending...JJ can direct decenct action. one hand at a time on each shoulder so that your arms are crossed, both hands down to the hips at the same time, turn your head and "UHHHH!"
pjdon by nelwack	May 30th, 2007 05:37:24 PM
Wow.... I would have loved to have heard that discussion... do you have anything saved? Notes or something?
I would hate to meet Bay by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:38:19 PM
I'm sure he is like a 15 yr old chest bumper on coke. I just can't help but enjoy his films though, they are what the term 'rollercoaster movie' was invented for. I do realise that people do hold these characters closer to their heart than I do and sympathize.
Was about 6 or 7 years ago nelwack by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:42:13 PM
our film teacher was called Mick the Wizard (not to his face), he looked just like a skinny gandalf. If you mentioned a made for TV movie you had caught once at 3 in the afternoon about a womans struggle with cancer he could name the whole cast/crew etc. He over 10,000 movies on video. He could appreciate anything for what it was.
Brians life I think MI:III by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 05:46:04 PM
was flawless in terms of action. With a bit of an edit; ending the film just after Tom gets shocked back into life (leaving you with the impression that his wife might even leave him for lying to her and putting her in danger) and cutting out 'humpty dumpty sat on the wall' (worst line ever?). The rest of the movie is quite dark and it could be perfect with a bit of chopping.
Awww, meltedface is... by Boober	May 30th, 2007 05:50:05 PM
both nostalgic AND a romantic.
Daaaaaamn that Gabriel Gray... by Brians Life	May 30th, 2007 05:55:43 PM
funny motherfucker. I like him. If I came to the present from 1999 I might think the interface on this site was pretty damn good...."oh you guys hear about that stuff FLASH animation"...i keed...anyway, yeah MI3 needed a few trims...the scene with the two agents in the car outside the vatican, & the ending was tacked on...agreed. Anyone see 28 Weeks Later. I haven't seen a zombie movie with such tight suspense driven action in a WHILE. LOVED seeing a semi-realworld military response to a zombie invastion too.
pjdon by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 05:57:56 PM
what film school did you attend? I went to Brooks Institute of "POT"ography
Nothin's gonna stand in our way by GornPirate	May 30th, 2007 05:58:06 PM
The fortunate ones To be fast and free and young I want to count myself among The fortunate ones We won't be denied We know that time is on our side We've got the passion and the pride We won't be denied This generation With fire in our eyes Strong are the ties that bind us We don't need no alibis Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Not tonight We want it all And tonight we got the call We're running high but we won't fall We want it all We won't be denied Like a breaker at high tide We're gonna take that sweet joy ride We won't be denied Grew expectations Moments in the sun We've waited all our lives And now we know our time has come Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Nothin's gonna stand in our way Not tonight
I actually think that Bay's films by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:01:05 PM
do manage to create a good amount of tension and intensity in his action. It's not his action is like the Starwars prequals or the Matrix sequals where the action just feels like a dance with no focus.
GornPirate - fucking A man by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:02:50 PM

lol by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 06:04:10 PM
lol
RokurGepta- by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:07:05 PM
University of Central Lancashire in the north of England. You know when I think about it anything I know is stuff I learnt myself, not in lectures. There where so many people who did not have the 1st clue when it comes to movies but where very academic and did better than me. I honestly think I knew more about films than anyone else in my class of 70 odd, just smoked too much dope and scraped by with an average degree. I did a 15,000 word dissertation on the Coen Brothers in the 48 hours before it was due in without any research and just about saved my ass from repeating.
Transformers save me!!! by spectrebeeyatch	May 30th, 2007 06:11:42 PM
So far the summer has sucked. Spider-man 3 was corny and under whelming. Shrek 3 just not that funny and Pirates 3 was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, like seriously back up and look at the movie, it's horrible. Transformers better rock my balls off or this summer was a waste. I'm hoping LF or DH will kick ass but I really have no idea and Bourne 3 will probably be cool but I'm looking for Transformers to be THAT summer movie that will make me go crazy. Here is to hoping...
i have to agree by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 06:14:07 PM
pretty much everything I learned about movies and film making, is stuff I learned by myself, outside of class through hands on experience. A lot of my classes and teachers were jokes, they were sometimes more stoned than some of the students, one teacher frequently lectured on the old glory days of being coked out on film sets, specifically mentioning his work on Apocalypse Now, he mentioned was always going off about how many different ways they would sneak coke through customs, and talk about the entire cast and crew of the film were coked out. It made me so irritated, I wanted to learn how to make movies, yet instead was taught how to sneek drugs onto a set. GRRRRR
TRANSFORMERS by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:14:23 PM
........................When one boys life is TRANSFORMED by love...when our world is TRANSFORMED by war...your life will be TRANSFORMED by a movie...
Re: Transformers save me!! by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:15:13 PM
Transformers will probably be a good summer movie. It's not a sequel. Apart from Robot Jox, I don't there has ever been a film about giant battling robots. The film-makers are trying to create a new continuity, but it appears to be quite far from the source. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
Re: TRANSFOMERS by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:16:47 PM
Let's just hope the script hasn't been transformed to shit
The whole AICN site selling out idea is getting old by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	May 30th, 2007 06:17:42 PM
You morons who claim that this site has sold out can suck a hot fart out of my asshole. I mean come on. I don't agree with every review this site churns out but that's just crass ignorance on your part to even assume that just because they get invited to sets or inside info, or talk to a director etc etc etc that they are less likely to give a movie a bad review. Did any of you idiots ever think about the banner ads that have been bought over the years of DVDs that got shit reviews from Harry and company? Prime example is Creepshow 3. There has been heavy banner ad traffic from the movie and Harry pissed all over it so the theory that money buys a good review on this site is total garbage. Just because Harry is stoked for Transformers like most of us are does not mean he is a Bay fan or going to give it a glowing review. However going into this movie knowing what it is and what some of us want which is giant robots kicking the fucking shit out of each other and everything in site I am sure it's going to get a decent nod as a fun summer blockbuster that is a must see for it's effects alone, and so fucking what. When Star Wars came out it was about the marvel of the effects and not so much the story but some of you idiots don't remember that. Really if you watch the original movie the acting was terrible, the script was not original at all and all around it was total cheese but it did well because there had never been anything quite like it seen before and we all got attached to those classic characters. Transformers is no different in that the script is cheese, the acting will be sub par but the robots are going to blow our fucking minds away and that's what Bay and company are banking on to put asses in the seats. To call AICN a sellout is a fucking joke. Believe me I disagree plenty. Eli Roth prime example. Other then that Thanksgiving trailer in Grindhouse I think his movies suck turds and I don't get why Harry is a fan but I am not going to call the guy a sellout for liking him.
I believe there was a sequel to by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 06:18:51 PM
Robot Jox, and I think there was another film about giant battling robots, I want to say it was called "Crash and Burn" but I could be wrong.
I'm a Transformers fan... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 06:20:19 PM
...and Seagrass is...but I can safely say there are much, much worse. They're are Transformers fans hating on this project for EXACTLY the reason that it doesn't take place entirely on Cybertron; that it has the nerve to actually feature HUMAN characters; that Unicron will not be mentioned or even refrenced. ::: shakes head ::: Sad but true. PJdon - wazzup?! Good to finally have another level-head 'round here. What else have I missed? Are we still talking Star Wars Transformers with robo-beards and doing MILF's greek-style?
RE: I believe there was a sequel to by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:22:37 PM
I remember seeing that crash and burn title in the video rentals in the 90s. I read in fanzine Starburst, interviewing Robot Jox director Stuart Gordon, that he made that film because he was influenced by the transformer toys. I don't think Transformers will be bad as that film.
WizardofOz... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 06:24:30 PM
...THANK GOD!!! I said that too waaaaay earlier, just in fewer wordz! Heh-heh - I love that greeting I got earlier too: "Cadillac Jones you're right - don't bother explaining - AICN Talkbacks: Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"
FUCK YES!!!! That is awesome!!! by Power_Girl	May 30th, 2007 06:24:35 PM
Amazing as fuck...I'm getting Lost world T-rex in the back yard vibes.
Cadillac Unless you are going to have a lot of human by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:25:26 PM
perspective it's not worth making it live action. An all set on Cybertron film may as well be a CGI cartoon.
Robot Jox... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 06:26:21 PM
...and Crash N' Burn. I just remember one them had some fine, fine titties in them.
Robot Jox was my biggest dissapointment when I was by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:28:24 PM
young. It just didn't live up to its premise. TF is really going to be the first real giant robots film.
Well, yeah PJ... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 06:29:23 PM
I mean the whole concept of the toy was that they - SHOCK - turn into cars and crap for - SHOCK - disguise! But these are the type of fans who probably make up fanfic's about Jazz & Ratchet having gay robot-on-robot sex. Nobody likes that kind of fanfic. Even the Trekkies don't like gay fanfic. Even if its Wesley and Worf. ESPECIALLY if its Wesley and Worf!
Why is the aspect ratio fucked up? by The Decider	May 30th, 2007 06:31:13 PM
n/t
Re:Cadillac Unless you are going to have a lot of human by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:36:01 PM
I think the line between CGI and Live action is really becoming blurred. This will probably be a half decent film but not pure to the source. I think that we will one day get the Transfomers film we want. Because the G1 base is too big. I see this film as just another alternate reality version, to add to the many alternate reality versions of Transformers that have come out in the last few years. Cybertron, Armada, Beast WArs anyone? I think that's why the film-makers have taken so many libertys. If this film was made ten years ago it would be totally different. I really despair at the movie Megatron, but watching Beast Machines, you can see that he becomes more demonic looking as the versions progressed. You dig?
Westerly flusher and the traveller by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 06:37:39 PM
"Wherever you are, there you are" -BB
why does my signature only appear by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 06:38:26 PM
on like 1 out of every 40 posts?
LORDMAKER RE STUART GORDON by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:38:43 PM
Re-animator is fucking BRILLIANT. from start to finish. I love the credit sequence. I think like many film-makers, his vision is quashed. Space-Truckers?
re: LORDMAKER RE STUART GORDON by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:39:57 PM
y'know a long time ago Stuart Gordon wanted to make an Iron-Man film?
No Bruticus by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:46:38 PM
I guess because Combaticons, Brawl and Swindle appear. We'll never see a Bruticus giant robot in a sequel, Damn! Hell, that's one thing I really loved about Transfomers at that time, the unbridled imagination developing the concept. We started off with cars, cassetes and planes. Then moved unto Dinosaurs, insects and giant combining Robots. Tom Hanks in big didn't invent robot insects, the Transformers did.
michael bay song by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 06:47:24 PM
has this been brought up before??!! bloody ell it's impressively ballsy even if i do disagree ha ha alpha trion's beard mmmm
LORDMAKER RE STUART GORDON by LordMaker	May 30th, 2007 06:47:34 PM
you got a copy of the script?
oops forgot link by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 06:47:55 PM
go youtube search Bay's Touch
LordMaker you say the G1 fanbase is big by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:51:05 PM
enough that they will eventually make the TF you want. I'd say the fan base will make up for less than 10% of this films profit. Another 20% of people who liked the original TF but don't care about the changes and then 70% of general public. They wouldn't spend more than 30 mill if it was just aimed at the fanboys of TF.
Stuart Gordon is doing by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 06:55:55 PM
House of The Re-animator. High hopes I have.
I can dig that... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 07:04:18 PM
...that's exactly like the comic book flicks being their own universe and not bogged down to certain continuities. But come the fuck on? When you think Transformer - you think giant-robot folding up into a police car or some shit; NOT having humans and NOT setting it on Earth takes away what the whole concept was about to begin with!
That was to LordMaker... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 07:08:05 PM
...because I was distracted mid-post.
Krull by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 07:10:06 PM
guilty pleasure or Not?
Thanks for putting the preview right here on the site by wackedfuck	May 30th, 2007 07:15:26 PM
Rather than provide a link that leads to another link and so on and so forth. God, I hate that.
Jeffrey Combs film.... by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 07:17:04 PM
that I would like to see a sequel too. FROM BEYOND Great movie
lazy ass by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 07:19:37 PM
www.youtube. com/watch?v=ZP7FXFFywy4 ;)
The whole 'Flames on Optimus' thing by McCroskey	May 30th, 2007 07:20:01 PM
I never thought it was as bad as some, but I do wonder what the point of including them was in the first place? I mean, why not just go with a solid red design? It would make more sense if realism is desired, as I've seen big red rigs on the road, but I've never seen one with flames. Also, it would just look better. Still, as long as Prime is not made out to be a chump in the movie -- which to me would require him having no equal other than megatron -- then I guess it'll be okay.
prequel comics by prime lips	May 30th, 2007 07:23:08 PM
have people been reading these? i am enthralled to find bumble scanned his form back in '03 and also found out the story behind the Mars Rover stamp-on from the original teaser. imho they seem necessary yet ... lacking.
Flames on Optimus is like the whole by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 07:33:50 PM
nipples on Batman thing. People who coouldn't explain why Batman n Robin was a bad movie just put it down to little things like that. If the Batsuit had of had nipples in Batman begins it still would have been just as good a film.
Jeffrey combs by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 07:35:46 PM
For anyone that loves Jeffrey Combs, check out "The 4400" it's VERY cheezy, but for some reason I like it, the Jeffrey Combs character, is some sort of doctor, and he's experimenting with some chemical, and in a total nod to Re-Animator, the chemical is green glowing.....
oh and I hate by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 07:41:19 PM
the flames on Optimus... but what can I do, nothing, my whining will acomplish nothing more than someone offering me some cheese to go with my whine. on the whole Nipples on the Batsuit, what pissed me off, was if you're gonna be so frakin gay as to put nipples on the bat suit, than god damn it put Nipples on the frakking Batgirl suit FOR CHRISTS SAKE
And here's the link to download & save.. by wadi77	May 30th, 2007 07:42:57 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3b3449
ewokstew by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 07:45:39 PM
Ewokstew..Learn your Camaro years!..The camaro used in transformers is not a 70, its a 76. They look quite a bit different. Pretty embarrassing for a dude not to know this, especially having owned one yourself.
Flames on Optimus Prime... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 07:46:39 PM
...equals hair on the nipples of my ex-girlfriend circa' 1997. Which was no big deal because she was cute and shaved 'em.
Gabriel Gray by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 07:49:04 PM
Did you ever play "The Thing" Videogame? I remember it being an easy game, but fun.
Cadillac Jones please tell me that's why you by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 07:58:30 PM
dumped her.
furry nipples.... by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 08:00:05 PM
some people like that short of $#!+
RokurGepta it was quite a good game by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:01:33 PM
very intense at the start when you would just be walking along and suddenly the camera would switch to a point of view of a creature behind you and then when you turn around it was gone. Liked the whole trust element aswell.
huggerorange by ewokstew	May 30th, 2007 08:03:14 PM
You should re-read my post all the way through! I said I owned a Camaro "like" the one in the trailer except that mine was a 70'. I also said the one in the trailer was between a 74-77. I couldn't tell exactly which year, though so good call. They started that wrap around rear window in 75? The 74' and earlier had the rear window like my 70' if I'm not mistaken. The bottom line is they both share the same 2nd "generation" body so in that respect they are indeed alike.
BIG by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:04:11 PM
........................HUG
one more thing by ewokstew	May 30th, 2007 08:05:52 PM
Mine was yellow and had black stripes on the hood. Guess that would have been a good thing to mention.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS - HAIRY NIPPLES ON CADILLAC'S EX by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:06:20 PM

Iron Giant Scene Rip Off by garyploski	May 30th, 2007 08:06:53 PM
A Window scene with a large robot and a parent that might freak out. Argh. Come on. Is Optimum really that naive to Earth? I was hoping for fun, now I'm expecting meh.
garyploski do you expect by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:09:58 PM
Optimus to do research on what annoys parents?
Yack did you see the promo for the new by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 08:10:44 PM
Star wars cartoon It looks like Lucas is trying to rip off Genndy Clone wars which in my opinion was better then all the Prequels. It winds up looking like VideoGame cutscene. and where's Ole AINTITSHOT I haven't seen the ole cumstain since this Topic started.
forgive me if this goes astray by Sebilrazen	May 30th, 2007 08:13:32 PM
The html code for a line break is: <br/> well, xhtml anyway.
hmmm by Sebilrazen	May 30th, 2007 08:15:00 PM
nope, maybe it's: <br> yep.
yes, it's <br> by Sebilrazen	May 30th, 2007 08:16:13 PM
make your site compli ant.
I want to know where Superninja is by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:16:31 PM
Big hug supes if your listening.
cmro by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 08:21:48 PM
Nah i remember what i read... dont need to re read.. Your post's title clearly says I owned THAT camaro. Its cool whatever,but a 70 and a 74-77 dont have the same back window. They share some body aspects but i dont even think the subframes are the same. fenders are different, quarters are different. If you ask me i dont know why they had to use a 76 in transformers, they shouldve used a 70-73.. they look much classier and tougher to me. I hate the 74-77 bodystyle unless its a firebird were talking about.
SeaGrass by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 08:21:50 PM
First of all my intention with the initial Polesmoker comment was directed at the fanatical DonMurphy/Transformers fans that post over @ The otherfat bastards website. talk about fanatical fans. Those guys think everything coming out of Bays camp is "FUCKING AWESOME!!!" Its like theyre mindless drones who just repeat the same damn thing over and over again. "GIANT FUCKING ROBOTS" "THANK YOU MICHAEL BAY" etc.etc.etc. Its like a collective mind over there. Disobedience or a differin opinion will not be tolerated. What I said was it seems like those mindless drones made a concerted effort to come over here to "enemy territory" and flood the TB's with overwhelmingly positive posts about how great this movie is going to be with its explosions, and giant fucking robots. you can only read the same catchphrases so many times before you get sick of them. If you are one of those fanatical Don Murphy/Michael Hack Bay cult members then yes, my barb was directed at you. But if you are as you say, just a TF fan wanting to give this movie a chance, before you shit all over it, then my polesmoker comment was not directed at you. I hope this clears things up.
One might think everyone here hates it.. by Reception Fades	May 30th, 2007 08:22:48 PM
but in reality, its like the same 10 people posting 400 times. you're all arguing about this movie like you probably argue about whose dick is bigger. This movie is going to be extremely enjoyable, and if you don't like it, do go! Fact is, most of you will, and then you'll bitch about how it sets a July 4th record.
tehgreekhammer what if I am someone by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:26:30 PM
who isn't a G1 fanboy (not a crime) and thinks that while Bay has not one shred of artistic talent I can still kick back and enjoy the explosions. What does that make me?
youre right about the 74 by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 08:29:44 PM
youre right about the 74 rear window its like the 70-73. that still doesnt save it from being a crappier camaro to me though. bad ass camaros are from 67-73 for me
PJ Don by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 08:35:12 PM
Nah. I dumped her because she became a total bitch. She was a Trekkie too. There was a time when Star trek was okayish. She killed it quick. It'd be a gorgeous day outside; 80' degress, sunny. "Hey Hon, let's go hiking?" "No - c'mon watch this with me! It's episode 347 where Picard mind melds with the space amoeba and learns the dark arts of bukaki! I've only seen 7 or 8 times - not counting its initial broadcast." "..." THAT'S why I dumped her.
I wonder how bumble bee by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 08:38:06 PM
I wonder how bumble bee becomes the new model camaro in the movie..Does he get mangled or almost destroyed in battle and ratchet has to fix him up?.. or does he simply see a later model one and decides to change his bodystyle for looks?
shia makes a comment to bb, by Reception Fades	May 30th, 2007 08:40:20 PM
shia makes a comment to bb, and bb changes into an '08.
I really wanted him to be a VW by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 08:40:22 PM
oh well, I'll still go see the movie, and probably love it
GABRIEL GRAY by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:45:01 PM
why were you banned this time? You have made amends and proven yourself a good TBer over the last 2 nights.
on the topic of remakes by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 08:45:11 PM
does anyone have high hopes for the re-telling of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" ?
thatd be really gay and by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 08:45:52 PM
thatd be really gay and corny if shia made a "comment" on bumblebees looks and he changed to a new camaro. could michael bay be that cheesy?
Ugh.... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 08:48:13 PM
..."my parent's will freak out" oy vey so that's the kind of ham fisted garbage we're in for. More resolve on not seeing that one.
PJ by tehgreekhammer	May 30th, 2007 08:49:47 PM
that just makes you a movie fan. Not a mindless drone who just repeats catchphrases and and is salivating at the very idea of seeing a Michael Bay film.
tehgreekhammer thats okay then by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 08:53:18 PM
RevSick - explain exactly what is wrong with that line. Isn't he alowed to have parents?
It's not so much the line it's the context... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 08:59:15 PM
...it's a bad joke, it's just one of those jokes that makes me cringe everytime, smacks of lazy writing.
Gabriel Gray by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 08:59:53 PM
glad you're back. HUGS pjdon glad you're around HUGS Anyone that gives me a job BEAR HUGS How old is Shia's character supposed to be? God I want to see a Motorcycle transformer God I want to see a Robotech Live Action Movie, who's with me? thoughts?
I think people just don't by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:01:44 PM
want this movie to have any fun or human element. It's like having a love story or humour is 'un-cool' or some shit.
It's gotta have a human element by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 09:05:35 PM
Spike and the other humans where a huge part of the G1 Transformers story. I'm glad Cybertron isn't in this movie, it SHOULD be saved for future sequels.
Ive become numb to lines by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 09:07:20 PM
Ive become numb to lines like "My parents will freak out if they see you" only because hollywood has been spewing corny cheesy unfunny lines like that for as long as i can remember. It sounds like something an 11 year old girl would say to something theyre hiding from their parents. I cant think of any 18-19 year dude saying that, only in hollywood land. I dont know why they have to keep regurgitating stale lines like this, but its a live action transformers movie so i have to let it slide. It seems that alot of pg movies have the demand for such dialogue.
No it's not a matter of no human element... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:08:42 PM
....but when you spend time with lazy shit like trying to hide 100 foot tall robots in your back yard WHEN THEY CAN TRANSFORM INTO CARS so you can utter a cheap one liner it's lazy writing and it's bad writting. I'm all for humor, I'm all for having some kind of human element but I'm not for blatantly cheap lazy writting.
trite by PeteBogs	May 30th, 2007 09:09:52 PM
why does every damn action movie trailer use that music?????
what does this movie have going for it? by WolfmanNards	May 30th, 2007 09:13:46 PM
Yeah, people will go see it. But how big will this movie really be? I don't see it being that huge. The studio thinks they have a guaranteed hit on their hands, but... for people who don't know anything about the transformers (of which there are many, which is why the movie is aimed at them) according to what is presented in the trailers, they have no idea what the hell is going on. NO plot is presented in any of the trailers. There's no way to tell what this movie is abot.
It has a major studio push behind it for one... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:15:53 PM
...I mean really this movie is banking on the mentality of people going to a movie just to see shit blow up. No talk of storyline, no talk of any kind of substance to it, it's all about special fx, which to an extent is fine but you are basically getting what you pay for with it.
Live action AKIRA by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:19:49 PM
If you are going for an English speaking cast then Justin Chatwin should be Tetsuo. I loved him in War of the Worlds and in that ep of LOST. Something about him, he just oozes screen presence and has that big eyed look suitable for Tetsuo. Maybe Topher Grace for Kaneda.
RevSick if it starts being anything other than by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:25:11 PM
a Bay movie I will walk out. I'll save the good film half of my brain for Iron Man and Dark Knight. I'm going to TF to zone out for a couple of hours.
As for Transformer motorbikes- by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:27:11 PM
my favorite part of the animated movie is when the one motorbike bot is in bot form riding another in bike form then as they crash they transform and swap places. Genius, would love to see that live action (without the metal beards)
Tetsuo... by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 09:29:19 PM
I'd have to agree with pjdon, Justin Chatwin WOULD make a good Tetsuo
And that's fine... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:30:21 PM
...but right there you acknowledge that you're not there for good writing or even there for the human element you're there to watch shit blowed up real good. And that's fine but don't make it out like I don't want humor or human element in a movie, it was bad writing, you yourself don't care about that I do.
I do want Bay style emotion by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:38:29 PM
you know the same kind of emotion in Armaggedon and the same type of humour. I know it feels false but they throw so many writers at it that it always ends up being satisfying and very polished. But your right that there will be no real depth or real emotion or cutting edge humour.
One Question by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 09:41:28 PM
why the hell would you have american cast playing Asians?
Phategod... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:43:42 PM
they're talking about an american remake of Akira, and seeing as that they would enevitably set it in LA or NYC they would probably either go with an all white cast or some kind of one of each race type deal rather than just pick an all japanese cast to do it.
Wouldn't know.... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:45:59 PM
...never watched Armagedon looked like garbage to me and seeing the same emotional heartstringy badly written pablum in every film is not my idea of a good time, so have fun with it.
I'll go one better... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:47:09 PM
...why the hell do anime have caucasians as Asians? Casting Justin & Chatwin wouldn't look out of place in the least!
My bad... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:48:04 PM
Topher & Chatwin.
Look I like me some cheese... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:48:06 PM
...but if I want cheese I go looking for it and it better be sold to me as cheese. I don't like being sold top quality if it's not, this is not, this is cheese of the highest order, and frankly could've been handled far better as a property, the ball was dropped and I'm not going to it, at most I'll catch it on video or on demand.
My bad... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:48:11 PM
Topher & Chatwin.
Phategod2 AKIRA would be snatched by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:49:26 PM
up by hollywood if it was ever to go live action. Don't know the names of many young Japanese stars but Tony Leung is pretty much my favorite actor of all time and I'd love to see him play Kaneda, he's just too old though.
A live-action Robotech? by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:50:26 PM
Sign me up! But JUST the Macross Saga - or Macross as it should be called. Sure. Josh Lucas would make an excellent Roy Fokker.
Hey gany long time.... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:50:56 PM
...what's been happenin. If this was put out by The Asylum I would have expected this kind of plagaristic hackery but it's not so I expect more from it.
wheres Don? by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 09:51:33 PM
It fun when shows up. I love the little plays on my Screen name He comes up with. Not to mention the Other Screen names he likes to make fun of. Plus I love his dedication to correcting spelling, punctuation, and grammer in TB's that will be lost and forgotten in weeks if not Days to come.
He pops up now and again... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:53:02 PM
...you can usually tell because he starts going off about how shocked he is that so and so hasn't sued Harry or that everyone will go see the movie yadda yadda.
I'm Transformers fan... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:53:12 PM
...and behind the movie, but damn if it ain't fun riling up Don. It makes for some damn fine amusement.
So when is the Live Action Voltron coming out? by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 09:53:31 PM
And how will Hollywood be raping it?
Phategod... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:54:21 PM
...I guess you weren't here earlier. Voltron will be raped Greek-Style.
They'll rape it by using the third... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 09:54:39 PM
and unseen in the states version of voltron, there by covering there asses against fan boys hoping for the lions or cars.
Revsick - that is kind of what i have been saying by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 09:55:23 PM
people can either enjoy Bays films or not stomach them. I like more complex films but I also like going on big dumb rollercoaster rides. I suggested to Harry and Quint that they choose 4 of us to review the film when it comes out in the following catagories: 1: Bay hater/TF fanboy 2: Bay lover/TF indifferent 3: Baylover/TF fanboy (probably the most intruiging combination) 4: Bayhater/TF indifferent. Because this is why there have been so many arguments - someone who can't stand Bay is not going to start loving him and someone who has no interest in TF is not going to care about design choices. Ths way 4 of us would get to review from a different point of view and it would be our reward/send of for what has been a TB event over the last year. They like the idea and I've emailed them with specifics but we'll have to see if they get round to setting it up.
Minmei.... by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 09:56:08 PM
would be played by Lucy Liu there is no other
The Vehicle Voltron... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:56:27 PM
...was the best. ::: SHRUG ::: I'm also the only one here who wants DVD sets of Inhumanoids & Mighty Orbots. Even though I have the UK Inhumanoids set and it plays just fine on my computer.
Are you serious? by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 09:59:24 PM
I was hoping for Blazing Nunchukus formed by the Teal Salamander tickling his taint till it popped out. Followed By Ro-Beast's that grows to immense sizes when the magic words Mecha lecka Hi mecha hiny ho being spoken by Empress Haggar.
Minmei... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 09:59:27 PM
...can be played by Tom Cruise, who is a short, annoying brunette. In all seriousness - Sam Neill should play the German Doctor who they have onboard to study the fold-system.
Haggar... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 10:00:45 PM
...wanted Prince Lotar is the worst way. Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom, baby!
That cold by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 10:01:36 PM
As long as has scene where he runs away or to something I'll be good that man run like nobody's business.
GABRIEL GRAY do you not agree by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:02:20 PM
that his films all look like every inch of set has been built from scratch and that every line of dialouge has been put through a computer to see if it is as good as it can possibly be. I'm not saying this is a good thing but polished does describe his films.
I'd do it if I didn't have to pay to see it... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:03:20 PM
...I won't give Don Murphy any money out of my pocket on theatrical on this. Even for a cool review project.
Let's see... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 10:08:17 PM
So far for my Robotech we have: Roy Fokker - Josh Lucas Dr. Lang - Sam Neill Rick Hunter - Topher Grace or Jake Gyllenhal Lisa Hayes - Laura Linney Captain Gloval - Gary Oldman Max Sterling - ??? Ben Dixon - ??? Claudia Grant - Beyonce' The Zentredai: Breetai - ??? Exxador - ??? Mirya - Jessica Beil
RevSick - well you'll have to see who they choose by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:10:45 PM
I suggested they send the chosen ones tickets but they probably won't. I can't believe even the biggest haters are not going to see it in the cinema after all the effort they have put into these TBs.
I want to see Jake play a Superhero by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 10:11:51 PM
before he hits 40 or before superhero movies become passé.
They are, PJDon... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 10:11:51 PM
...though they won't admit it to you or me.
Breetai by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 10:12:56 PM
Ed Harris there is no other
Never thought of Ed Harris... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 10:13:42 PM
Good call, Rokur!
Christian Bale should play by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:14:55 PM
that big general guy with the mustache in AKIRA. But seriously imagine how fucking cool the bike scenes would be. And Kanedas bike still looks perfect, hasn't aged one bit in terms of design.
My complaint... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:15:54 PM
...isn't from the standpoint of some jilted G1 fanboy. My problem has to do with the constant false advertisement that was involved with the film from day one. They constantly referenced G1 how much they loved transformers especially G1 and how they're seriously looking at all things G1, all the way to bringing a giant G1 style Optimus Prime G1 style mac truck onto the floor of San Diego Con back in 2005 drapped with the logo. Then you add Don Murphy's childish behavior and there's just no way I'll sit in a theater nowing I gave that guy dollar one of my money.
He still Owes me $19.25 by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 10:19:04 PM
For LOXG.
I can't count... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:19:37 PM
...how many movies I've been suckered into based on the false advertising of studios selling shit as one thing and it's completely different so since I know this isn't what I want to see I'm not going.
Oh good god don't remind me of LOXG by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:20:50 PM
...I tried to block that turd from my memory.
Now you know... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 10:23:06 PM
...my pain, RevSick, when somebody reminded me of Superman IV... DAMN YOU MARIEL HEMINGWAY AND JON CRYER!!!
GABRIEL GRAY pearl harbour is by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:23:22 PM
different due to the fact that they tried to deal with a serious subject. That type of dialouge is made for Armageddon etc not for a war film. I'm not saying his dialouge is subtle or realistic, it is cheesy and each line has clearly been thought over until it gets the bigest laugh/cry from your 15 yr old movie goer. It matches the editing, action, sound, music in the fact that it is constucted by lots of people with infinate money to make every aspect as commercially succesful as possible. If they made a computer which could write a script and asked it to write a big budget cheesy action movie it would write a Bay style script. Every aspect is well done and very poilshed and there are no rough effects or shots but it has a complete lack of any human input.
Oh GAWD Nuclear Man.... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:25:55 PM
...sloooooopppppyyyy!
LOXG by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 10:26:04 PM
man that story was raped more than any story has ever been raped. AND I CRIED AND I CRIED after I saw LOXG
I've heard rumors of people... by Cadillac Jones	May 30th, 2007 10:28:27 PM
...finishing Gigli. Start to finish... ...but these are rumors...
Yeah I turned LOXG off by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:29:09 PM
...when they gave Alan Quartermain Tom Sawyer.
I did like Sean Connery punching things by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:30:16 PM
really hard though. I always thought that if there was a longer edit with more character then LOXG wouldn't be too bad.
Who would do such a horrible thing to themselves... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:30:19 PM
...I mean are they repenting for some horrible crime of humanity, to sit through Gigli I think I'd rather get the chair.
Read the comic.... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:31:20 PM
...the bastardized that I mean they gave it a mean no-luber.
For a second I Got Gigli confused with Gia by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 10:34:51 PM
Where we get tons of scenes with Agie in the buff when we was young and supple.
Anyone who paid to see LoXG by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 10:36:37 PM
should get to see Transformers for free! I would be equally pissed If paid to see "From Hell"
If I remember LOXG correctly by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 10:40:05 PM
There were no cars or machine guns in the comic book
Never had too much of a problem with From Hell by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:40:36 PM
...but at the point I watched it I knew they were only adapting a very small part of the comic.
I paid for myself, my little sister and 2 of her mates by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:41:39 PM
to see White Noise because they really wanted to see it and I promised I'd take them to see whatever they wanted. I sat through it though because i have always said I would never walk out of a film no matter how shit.
And if I also remember correctly... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:42:20 PM
Alan Quartermain was Mina's love interest and Tom Sawyer and Dorian Grey were added to split that up in order to turn Alan Quartermain into a father figure and to put two hot people together as the couple.
I've walked out of a couple... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:43:34 PM
...Boogeyman and Godzilla 1997
I like the fact I can use the word 'mates' by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:45:15 PM
now without confusing Americans. Thankyou Charlie Pace from LOST you have taught them well. Now I'm just goin ta leg it to the loo. Back in a mo.
lxg by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 10:49:10 PM
So many people hated these..but I fucking loved LXG and i fucking loved Waterworld, i still find them both very rewatchable. Hopefully transformers wont be as bad as everyone is making it out to be..even though the majority of the wambulances in here havent seen it yet.
As bad as Godzilla was by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 10:49:37 PM
I never found it hard to watch, quite enjoyable even. It's not bad films that test me, it's really boring seen it all before types I hate. Has anyone seen Secret Window with Jonny Depp (written and directed by Koepp who is normally good) it was so fucking dull and predictable. At least with LOXG your seeing something newish that keeps your interest going even if it did rape the source material.
Cheezball horror movie by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 10:56:30 PM
It's from Australia or maybe New Zealand, it's called "Body Melt" It's gorry, it's cheezy, I LOVED IT!!! have any of you seen it?
the only Movie I've ever wanted to walk out of was by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 10:57:50 PM
X-3. the death of Xavier and Scott seemed like a slap in the face to all X-fans.
LXG kicked ass! they got dr by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 10:59:28 PM
LXG kicked ass! they got dr jeckyll and hyde right!!...unlike van helsing's version. All of the other characters in LXG were awesome too, including sean connery's.
new doesn't equal good by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 10:59:36 PM
there's lot's of new stuf out there, but that doesn't make it good. Hell the olson twins stuff is NEW but it doesn't make it good.
Phategod2 it's even more of a slap by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 11:01:25 PM
in the face when they ressurect xavier at the end, chicken shit hollywood can't even carry through on its mistakes. By the way it was my little bros Confirmation the other day and he chose Xavier as his confirmation name.
haven't seen Body Melt... by RevSick	May 30th, 2007 11:01:46 PM
...will look for it
nah..we dont get cool shit by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:03:44 PM
nah..we dont get cool shit like that...just lame ass horror movies that for the most part have been copying each other since that retarded Scream movie came out... a lame ass horror movie i saw not long ago --"The breed"
RevSick but the Olson twins when they by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 11:03:57 PM
themselves where 'new', now they where good, eh eh eh eh.
I thought creepshow 3 was by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:05:42 PM
I thought creepshow 3 was cool in its own little way
I believe the special fx make up in by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 11:17:52 PM
Body Melt was done by the same crew that worked on "Dead Alive" aka "Braindead" If you can hunt down a copy of Body Melt, I salute you, I personally paid $90 for my VHS copy.
by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 11:21:59 PM
test
RokurGepta where is the by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 11:23:02 PM
whole 'feeling bad/badly' line from you F Begbie quoted on the over TB. It's been on the tip of my mind for the last half hour.
LOVE by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 11:24:21 PM
........................AND HUGS
I know,Its like they didn't have the stones by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 11:24:49 PM
to stick to there guns. and keep up there own BS. I would have excepted it better if the White Queen or Magneto to run the school.
3 letdowns in xmen 3 for by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:37:02 PM
3 letdowns in xmen 3 for me..no sentinnels, lame colossus, not enough wolverine action---yet again!!!everything else wasnt that bad for me.. the 2 deaths were unwarranted though..couldnt she have just injured them really badly?!? theres no bringing cyclops back now-idiots
X3 pissed me off! by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:40:07 PM
That's why I won't go watch Spidey 3. I don't ever want to get that angry again.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. by lost.rules	May 30th, 2007 11:41:37 PM
Yeah, that movie pissed me off too!
lost.rules surely X3 by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 11:45:39 PM
was shit because they gave it to Brett Ratner and he made it to the lowest common denominator. Spidey 3 is still full of Sam Rami greatness but he got in over his head and it is a bit off a mess. But it isn't in the same leauge of lameness as X3
I dont know if you Game by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 11:45:43 PM
but there is supposed to be a Video Games coming out early next year that takes place after ROtS Where you play a young Sith Apprentice working for Vader tracking down Left over Jedi's that might give you a good Vader Fix.
dude spidey 3 was way worse by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:45:47 PM
dude spidey 3 was way worse than x3 could ever!... ever! ever! ever! be! good idea in not seeing it. wait till it shows up in the one dollar theaters at least... i dunno some people will defend SM3, i do not, didnt enjoy it. eventhough i think raimi is a good director, and has been able to make good movies .
dude spidey 3 was way worse by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:46:53 PM
dude spidey 3 was way worse than x3 could ever!... ever! ever! ever! be! good idea in not seeing it. wait till it shows up in the one dollar theaters at least... i dunno some people will defend SM3, i do not, didnt enjoy it. eventhough i think raimi is a good director, and has been able to make good movies .
The Hulk is another film which was flawed by pjdon	May 30th, 2007 11:48:47 PM
but I appreciate the effort that went into it and the respect they showed for the material.
pjdon by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 11:50:25 PM
KISS KISS BANG BANG
I dont fully blame Ratner for his Direction by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 11:54:12 PM
I blame him for not having more Balls to demand more time, more money, and full control of a script. One thing I'll say about Bay. He takes no shit, problem is he's a hack who really needs to listen to other peoples Opinions.
Why I hated X3 by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 11:55:42 PM
Juggernaut is supposed to be Xavier's brother, Juggernaut wears the helmet for the same reason Magneto wears a helmet, to block Xavier from messing with his head. The Phoenix is supposed to be an alien being from outer space. Xavier would never have tampered with someone's head the way he did in the movie. The Phoneix kills Cylcops in the Movie... I could go on, but those are my biggest problems
i just didnt like how fake by huggerorange	May 30th, 2007 11:56:39 PM
i just didnt like how fake hulk looked in about 70% of the movie. it took me right out of the action, just thinking how cartoony he was. My favorite scenes, were when he looked the most realistic: if remember corectly- most of the desert sequences and in san francisco where hot ass jen conelly shows up.
I can easily defend the finger gun scene by Phategod2	May 30th, 2007 11:56:58 PM
not the jazz club scene. But X-3 was a complete Failure in story telling effects and Fight sequences (at least what made it to the Big screen.)
what strikes me funny by RokurGepta	May 30th, 2007 11:59:42 PM
is when people complain about the Hulk looking cartoony.... It's a film based on a comic book....
Gepta your subscribing to the Fox Kids by Phategod2	May 31st, 2007 12:02:51 AM
version of X-men. But none the less You must remember how Singer skipped the Relationship between Logan and Sabertooth, Storms Incantations, and flying, the Wolverine Costume, and Damn It I also wanted Storms Throwback one piece bikini outfit. and Callisto, and Arclight were more manlier then Rosie O donell Not a hotty with the ability to run fast.
huggerorange how does a big green man by pjdon	May 31st, 2007 12:05:13 AM
ever really look that real. Even if they spent years and made it perfect your mind would still say 'hey that looks odd and out of place. I thought the effects in Hulk where spot on. As I always say if I can watch a stop-motion gorrila in the original Kong and not get taken out of the film then I can deal with slightly less than perfect CGI.
Since I have said all I'll ever need to say about this by HeWhoCannotBeNamed	May 31st, 2007 12:06:23 AM
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Fox Kids by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:07:05 AM
I started collected X-Men comics right around when Bishop first appeared, and the whole Phoenix saga happened. I did watch the Fox Kids Cartoon, but only like 2 or 3 episodes...
I didn't have a problem with the Hulk till by Phategod2	May 31st, 2007 12:07:37 AM
the last 10 minutes. The scene with the electric Chair was priceless (gotta love crazy old hollywood stars Nick Nolte)But the end was a complete WTF moment. In a related Topic I cant wait to see Gary Busey Play someones crazy ass father.
RokurGepta thanks for that by pjdon	May 31st, 2007 12:07:57 AM
was really bugging me. I love that film the ultimate post-modern film noir or maybe the brilliant Brick is, or The Big Lebowski, ah fuck it they don't have a robot in them.
.. by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:08:29 AM
maybe its a lil ironic but its not a cartoon anymore as soon as its being made into a live action movie. even if it came from a fuckin jo blo gum wrapper. It certainly matters that it looks as realistic as possible, or they wouldnt be blowing half of the movies' budget into the CGI alone.
hulk still didnt let me down by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:13:26 AM
hulk still didnt let me down as hard as SM3
huggerorange they made it look as real by pjdon	May 31st, 2007 12:15:13 AM
as technology, money and most of all time would allow at the time the film was made. People think CGI is easy or something, like the computers do most of the work and that when the CGI is not up to 100% perfection it was a case of whichever artist just wasn't as observent as your average movie goer. People never slagged effects like this when they where practical because you could easily visualize the time and effort it would take to put them together. Doing something on a computer is a lot more time consuming than even stop-motion was.
if it helps.... by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:16:10 AM
I think todays movies are relying way way way too much on CGI
Spazatronic 2000 your mom looks hot by pjdon	May 31st, 2007 12:17:24 AM

Spazatronic 2000 by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:17:58 AM
ok paris hilton, everything is "hot" to you...we get it
I think Realism Get too much attention by Phategod2	May 31st, 2007 12:18:52 AM
Look at the source material when you starte demamding Realism about a guy who gets bitten by a radioactive spider, Blast of radiation, Aglo-Saxon aliens,radiated families and Sentient Robots from outer space, how hard is it for you at any point to suspend reality. If superman can run around in prime colors how hard is it to believe any other costume would be any more or less rediculous.
I think Realism Get too much attention by Phategod2	May 31st, 2007 12:18:58 AM
Look at the source material when you starte demamding Realism about a guy who gets bitten by a radioactive spider, Blast of radiation, Aglo-Saxon aliens,radiated families and Sentient Robots from outer space, how hard is it for you at any point to suspend reality. If superman can run around in prime colors how hard is it to believe any other costume would be any more or less rediculous.
I don't think it's so much.... by RevSick	May 31st, 2007 12:19:35 AM
...people relying too much on CGI I just think people need to stop going to movies based only on the special fx.
The Dark Knight keeps me going. by lost.rules	May 31st, 2007 12:20:04 AM
Real hope for that one. No dissappointment, please. PLEASE!
superman looked pretty by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:22:58 AM
superman looked pretty fuckin real in the shuttle action sequence...but they fucked it up in the final flying into space sequence....why did they ever choose to make something simple like that cgi? christopher reeve looked more real flying space than that!!!
Hollywood is too CGI dependent. by lost.rules	May 31st, 2007 12:25:25 AM
You've got to use all the effects tools to be effective.
Before CGI people would make a film by pjdon	May 31st, 2007 12:25:41 AM
and then add the action into the structure of the film. Now because of CGI they seem to think up a lot of big set pieces first and then film around them. But anyone who says we would be better off without CGI is wrong. I've seen too much I thought I'd never get to see when I was young- dinosaurs, the hulk, spidey swinging through newyork etc. It was all in my head and I remember actually thinking it would never happen. Then I saw Terminator 2 and my face lit up.
Phategod - you don't have long to wait... by Cadillac Jones	May 31st, 2007 12:26:30 AM
...as Gary Busey plays Jake Busey's crazy-ass father 24/7. Good to see some Ang Lee Hulk Lovin'! That movie was da' shizznet and too good for a summer release; it was a mega-budget arthouse flick and I can appreciate what Ang Lee tried to do - hell the editing alone was art. I'm pretty stoked for the latest Hulk too. I know a lot of people loved Bana, but I think Ed Norton is going to be a much better Banner. We need an R-Rated She-Hulk movie with some bra-bursting momentum. I need caffiene!
im all for a she hulk flick by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:28:47 AM
im all for a she hulk flick
I just have zero confidence in that guy by pjdon	May 31st, 2007 12:30:09 AM
who directing The INcredible Hulk, hopefully all the great acting talent will kick is ass if he starts to get out of line. Anyway I've just finished work for the weekend (6.30 in the morn here) am going to go home for the weekend. See ya next week all. ...................... .. BIG HUGS AND LOVE TO YOU ALL
hulk will be 9 feet tall in by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:31:07 AM
hulk will be 9 feet tall in this new movie so does it mean he wont be able to smash and throw tanks around? or take down helicopters?
they should have the hulk by huggerorange	May 31st, 2007 12:32:47 AM
they should have the hulk tear a car in half and wear the 2 halves like armor gloves
Wow, can we use Boldface? by Daddylonghead	May 31st, 2007 12:40:31 AM
no shit!
I mean by Daddylonghead	May 31st, 2007 12:41:10 AM
No shit!
What the god damn hell? by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:43:21 AM
I just watched a commercial for transformers merchandise, and it showed a toy for the new flaming optimus prime truck, transform into a gun... prime in truck form, transfroms into a gun? TELL ME THIS AINT SO
How the fuck did PJDON use boldface??? by Daddylonghead	May 31st, 2007 12:43:22 AM
[b]Like this?[/b] or like this? or like this?
bold test by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:45:40 AM
bold test
but seriously by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:46:52 AM
WHY DOES THE PRIME TOY TRANSFORM INTO A GUN!!!!!!! NOW I AM REALLY GOD DAMN PISSED.
Okay, your right, HuggerG...I didn't say "like" by ewokstew	May 31st, 2007 12:51:27 AM
But I think you get what I'm saying. And your right...the later Camaro's were crappy looking compared to the 70-73's. I liked my 78' Rally Sport but no other year is sexier than the 70-73's.
WHY by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 01:16:56 AM
Does one of the new optimus prime toys transform into a GUN!!! Oh Michael Bay you TARD, DAMN IT, I AM so IRRITATED right now, WHAT THE HELL
damn it by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 01:28:26 AM
everyone's asleep now, I have nobody to share my irritation with. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
if we told you how to use bold.... by moondoggy2u	May 31st, 2007 01:35:24 AM
........................Then we'd have to tell everybody!
Not Getting Bugged by mrbill67401	May 31st, 2007 01:45:58 AM
My kids aren't constantly bugging me that they want to go see this movie, so there might be hope for "Transformers"
OK I'm home now by Phategod1	May 31st, 2007 01:46:38 AM
Thats Prime's voice at the end not BB's.
Alamo by mrbill67401	May 31st, 2007 01:52:29 AM
Wow, just saw a spot on FoodTV about the Alamo Drafthouse. Looks like a good time.
I just came back from the by Phategod1	May 31st, 2007 02:21:42 AM
FF2 Talkback and Vern is crazy I can't wait to see his & Wyrms review of Transformers
I WANT TO SEE GIANT F***** ROBOTS BLOWING STUFF AROUND! by Strajder	May 31st, 2007 02:48:11 AM
I am a G1 fan, but I also understand these are totally different Transformers. Looking forward to see Bayformers blow cars up and smash the buildings. Bring them on!!!!111
Shia looks like by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 03:29:48 AM
he just got done fucking a cat in this movie...
They promised Shia by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 03:35:10 AM
that he would get to fuck Mr. Jinx from "Meet the Parents" if this film does more than $350 million domestically. Do you think he has a shot?
Teen Titans by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 03:50:13 AM
A Teen Titans movie has been greenlighted by Warner Bros. Scooped again, AICN!
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	May 31st, 2007 04:02:26 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
someone pray for Mr. Jinx by Phategod1	May 31st, 2007 04:18:48 AM

flames on optimus = flames on rodimus by prime lips	May 31st, 2007 05:25:08 AM
the art dept just got confused sat there watching the 86 movie 'for ideas', stoned out of their minds and not paying attention just likE all those gremlins in the theater in the new batch (my GUILTY PLEASURE gorramit - GO HOGAN!. all they could remember was THE HERO WORE FLAMES MMMM. They couldn't even remember spike's bloody name! but they managed witwiticky??
new batch by prime lips	May 31st, 2007 05:41:56 AM
my bad
GABRIEL GRAY by Rupee88	May 31st, 2007 06:01:15 AM
Intereting, but I've got to think it is fake and staged and just promotion for the movie. Something about it doesn't ring true and that same actor was cast by Apatow in another movie.
Great Idea! by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 06:02:41 AM
Cat Fucking!
More Matrix by mooseaka	May 31st, 2007 07:01:00 AM
Ahem, I think we're getting a little off topic here. Can we get back to discussing the Matrix sequels????? Did you see my first and second posts? Come on people!!!!
My god by Kragmose	May 31st, 2007 07:28:55 AM
Saw the trailer just now. Megan Fox sounds boring.
fox by prime lips	May 31st, 2007 07:48:21 AM
speaks? i thought her voice box was crushed before the movie
original theme by prime lips	May 31st, 2007 07:57:19 AM
soundtrack.net reports composer Steve Jablonsky has done a new version, but prob won't be in film, maybe on soundtrack... WHY NOT ON FILM? sorRy if you've all seen this
Cat fucking? by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 08:19:26 AM
Zang!
Tehgreekhammer by seagrass	May 31st, 2007 08:34:54 AM
No worries...I agree with you 100% about blindly fanatical followers of any director, actor, or producer. No one is infallible. Damn, you guys just keep going and going until the early hours. Doesn't Gabriel Gray ever sleep?
messi by Mr. Nice Gaius	May 31st, 2007 08:38:27 AM
You see, that's where you're wrong. I've been critical of certain aspects of this film...especially since the "Megatron leak". (Maybe you don't remember so good?) But the fact that I CAN tell which robot is which must really burn your ass though, eh?
Finally something that admits to being stupid! by cdubbs727	May 31st, 2007 08:55:34 AM
I don't know...after Spider-man 3 and Pirates 3 spent nearly three hours confusing the hell out of me, I'm looking forward to a big stupid movie that is nothing more than robots blowing stuff up. The effects look amazing and, really, Michael Bay is perfect for a story that is nothing more than giant metal toys blowing each other up. And whoever posted about the Knocked Up scene...that was actually on Funny or Die this week. It's Michael Cera and Judd Apatow doing a goof on the I Heart Huckabees stuff.
Transformers script... by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 08:58:36 AM
sucks. It sucks worse than AnimalStructure's reading comprehension. It sucks worse than Caddyshack II. It sucks worse than Van Halen without David Lee Roth. It sucks more than Kirk Cameron's infomercials. It sucks more than the Iraq War. It sucks more than going to South Dakota for vacation. It sucks more than watching an ex-girlfriend makeout with a different guy. It sucks more than Britney Spears' parenting skills. What I'm saying is, this script sucks. Oh, and I heard that Shia fucks cats.
BAY TRANSOFORMERS WILL FUK YU IN TEH EYES!!! by GARTHIMUS	May 31st, 2007 09:54:36 AM
wit his MOVE MAKIN MAGIC he wil give u all ANYERISMS!! on 747 u wil all pay to be fukked in teh eyes by talntd MIKE BAY!!! FUKKD UNTIL YOU PISS UR PANTS!!!! MOVIE TAHT AWESOME!!!! WIN!!!!!
Grow Up... by knightstalker-666	May 31st, 2007 09:54:51 AM
OK...Just grow up people...enjoy it for what it is. And if you wanna blame anyone for the new Transformer designs blame Hasbro...Michael Bay really didn't have much to do with it. Hasbro wanted to make more money by being able to produce more toys with new designs. Besides which the new designs KICK ASS. Sure I was disappointed when I heard they would be different, but I like the idea now. Change is good sometimes. And I have a comment for the guy who said he just saw a Sideswipe animation...first of all you are a frickin moron...it wasn't sideswipe despite what the post said...which tells me you are NOT a Transformers fan to begin with. And secondly, I severely doubt that it was done by ILM. MORON!!!! If you are a true fan you will watch the movie, shut your mouth and enjoy it. It's merely a new aspect of your favorite cartoon. Suck it up and shut up.
Knightstalker... by Dr.Opticus	May 31st, 2007 10:16:29 AM
ur right change is good, hey transformer purists lets have a movie about giant toys YAY! Douche Bags...
Octopus Prime and someone else by filmcoyote	May 31st, 2007 10:28:19 AM
Okay I just sent Harry a review so if he uses it (didn't use my Spider-Man 3 one though) i have elaborated to long-winded effect
knightstalker-- by zb.brox	May 31st, 2007 10:34:13 AM
I don't have a problem with new designs, I have a problem with shitty new designs. And Bay has claimed responsibility for them himself--if you think Hasbro told him the designs had to look like cars that had been frozen, shattered, and then stuck together by a fourth grader into vaguely humanoid shapes, you are incorrect, sir.
Re: Designs by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 10:44:57 AM
They don't bother; the script. on the other hand, does. Also, Shia fucks cats.
Doesn't FOX have the live action rights to Akira? by Johnno	May 31st, 2007 11:33:24 AM
And aren't they just sitting on it? If they're gonna make that one, my dream is that it would be an action trilogy with each movie covering 2 books of the manga. But teh budget needed for these flicks would be sheer craziness... we need James Cameron or the Wachowski Brothers on that one!
Optimus Toy transforms into a GUN by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:33:43 PM
WTF, last night I saw a new Optimus Prime toy based on the new movie, and it transforms into a GUN Does this bother anyone else?
Gabrial Gray by RokurGepta	May 31st, 2007 12:34:47 PM
Check this story out, this movie sounds like something you might be interested in http://www.darkhorizons.com/ne ws07/070531c.php
Errr....the Gabriel Gay guy is still around??? by Motoko Kusanagi	May 31st, 2007 01:21:47 PM
After all he did on the other tb? Astonishing I say. He still seems to have some trouble with his caps lock...
Colonel Activity by Abominable Snowcone	May 31st, 2007 01:40:31 PM
But does the script suck more than going to South Dakota on vacation, with only Sammy Hagar VH discs in the car, and on arrival, you catch your ex making out with your best friend in a hotel lobby, which happens to be broadcasting CNN coverage of the war in Iraq on wall-mounted TVs? Say, what if your best friend happens to be another hot chick? Then it wouldn't be bad at all.
Touche` by Colonel Activity	May 31st, 2007 02:35:33 PM
Well played, Snowcone.
Gabriel Gray = That guy with the bad TB case by Yack Backer	May 31st, 2007 04:42:18 PM
Quarantine this kid!
Prime looks goofy in an ET in the closet way by superninja	Jun 1st, 2007 12:13:49 AM
standing outside the house. Ridic. Also, his legs look all wrong.
Those big letters by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 1st, 2007 12:53:27 AM
start to hurt my eyes...
last! by prime lips	Jun 1st, 2007 07:19:08 AM
my bad
TINO - Transformers In Name Only by Strajder	Jun 1st, 2007 05:03:08 PM
That's right. Couldn't be more right. AND THEY ROCK!!! Just as G1 ROCKS! Come on, you guys. You know it is true. They are the Transformers of the 21st century, for Primus' sake! What about other generations? What about the latest cartoon series? Are they disgusting to you? And in each of them the Transformers are more or less different than G1.

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