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UPDATED! The Joker Deploys Viral Marketing!! Help Trash Dent's Campaign Site!! Is Ledger's "Big Reveal" Nigh??

FIRST by PsarevoOmorfia	May 19th, 2007 04:14:41 PM
OH SHTI
About time by hargon27	May 19th, 2007 04:15:35 PM
Nice job WB, its nice to seem them actually start to promote movies way in advance than the piss poor promotion they gave Batman Begins (no comic con, wtf??).
Hurry up people! by tile_mcgillus	May 19th, 2007 04:18:43 PM
I can't get it to work either. I still havent received an email either. I want to see the joker!
How do we know by Zorak5	May 19th, 2007 04:20:07 PM
it's really WB doing this? I'm kinda wary about giving my e-mail out to whoever.
Yahoo and Hotmail don't work... by frazzle dazzle	May 19th, 2007 04:21:19 PM
gmail does though
Not too Shabby by StupidAndUgly	May 19th, 2007 04:21:31 PM
It seems like they are doing this thing right.
Yes Yes Yes by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	May 19th, 2007 04:21:39 PM
mail it hard bitches!!!!!!! just a couple million more pixels to go!! :D:D:D
Nth!!! by SpencerTrilby	May 19th, 2007 04:22:44 PM
I hope the image underneath is not Conrad Veidt, hey Mori?
I have an erection by Mr Chuff	May 19th, 2007 04:23:02 PM
this is SO how to keep us geeks wooded up till the movie opens...!
Yeah, Hotmail doesn't work on this. by thelivingdoll	May 19th, 2007 04:26:50 PM
Hmm, gmail perhaps? That's my last option as I don't use America On Lifesupport
Moviemack Revealed! by RedGobbo	May 19th, 2007 04:27:44 PM
I hope when its done we can finally see what he looks like.
You know what this reminds me of? by Anna Valerious	May 19th, 2007 04:30:18 PM
Sorta like the mining game in P-mon Diamond and Pearl...only it's going to take a long-ass time to find anything good.
I give you: THE JOKER by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 04:30:49 PM
check out this difference overlay I've created just minutes ago: http://www.avi-film.com/joker3 .jpg
THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS JOKER PIC!!! by Err	May 19th, 2007 04:31:09 PM
Can't wait!!!
Already looks awesome. by tile_mcgillus	May 19th, 2007 04:31:27 PM
You can see the darkness around the eyes, the patchy white face paint and the smeared disgusting red makeup around the mouth. Interesting take, really plays on the insanity and darkness of the character. Can't wait to see more.
skynetbauxi... by Err	May 19th, 2007 04:33:00 PM
Or is it Harvey Dent with bandages on?
it's a big white face by samsquanch	May 19th, 2007 04:33:30 PM
you can already see the edges on either side, sit back from your monitor and you'll see it.
You know what this reminds me of? part 2 by Basehead	May 19th, 2007 04:34:30 PM
the slow way the picture of Costner got revealed in No Way Out
IT'S THE JOKER! by Wonderboys	May 19th, 2007 04:34:45 PM
I've tweaked a screen grab with photoshop, and this is the result - The grab: http://img264.imageshack.us/im g264/6549/harvey1ie1. jpg - Filtered http://img510.imageshack.us/im g510/4194/harvey2cr2. jpg - Cleaning Harvey parts of the image http://img523.imageshack.us/im g523/4183/harvey3hr4. jpg - And tweaked to improv: http://img102.imageshack.us/im g102/4084/harvey4ga6. jpg As always, remove the blank spaces
JOKER PIC? OR HARVEY IN BANDAGES??? by Err	May 19th, 2007 04:34:58 PM
Which is it? Must sign up!
Err by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 04:36:08 PM
possibly :-)
No Way Out- hilarious by samsquanch	May 19th, 2007 04:36:55 PM
the movie that hinged on computer technology that took 18 hours to render a jpg.
You can already see the face developing by Furor	May 19th, 2007 04:38:35 PM
White skin. Deep pink lips. Dark eye hollows. A field of black on both sides of the boundaries of the head. Looking good.
This is so cool. by dekionplexis	May 19th, 2007 04:42:37 PM
I wish more films had interactive marketing like this.
I should probably have hit F5 before posting by Furor	May 19th, 2007 04:43:06 PM
oh well
Yeah looks like the jokers face by DigitalDong	May 19th, 2007 04:44:20 PM
you can kind of make it out atm.
tried a school account and Yahoo - neither worked! by microwavable?	May 19th, 2007 04:45:38 PM
i wonder if they stopped the "reveal" or whatever.
update by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 04:48:08 PM
www.avi-film.com/joker4.jpg
The Time Limit by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	May 19th, 2007 04:49:48 PM
I've just received my first mail, after several minutes. The "five minutes to play" are actually the time you have before the website sends the code you´ve got to someone else. I tried entering the coordinate and I got the following message "Broken plot, my friend. Invalid X/Y coordinates."
Is he smiling though? by samsquanch	May 19th, 2007 04:51:48 PM
It kind of doesn't look like it.
It is The Joker (will it be Ledger or artwork?) by performingmonkey	May 19th, 2007 04:52:40 PM
But I'm not receiving the email. Gods-damnit. Maybe they decided they don't want the face revealed so fast. They must be pretty pleased with The Joker's face if they're going to reveal it in this way. Looking forward to seeing it.
I wonder if the "joke" is on us. What if it's just a... by Err	May 19th, 2007 04:55:24 PM
clown mask.
Why is this not a warnerbros site as well? by Flim Springfield	May 19th, 2007 04:57:16 PM
Doesn't that seem a little strange?
If I was the Joker.... by TheEqualizer	May 19th, 2007 04:58:57 PM
I dunno but if this website is supposed to be the joker's.... I wouldn't put it past the ace of knaves to watch us geeks do this repeatedly till about half the pic is revealed, and then fill the screen with playing cards or something.
that website is clownshoes... by lynxpro	May 19th, 2007 04:59:33 PM
Because it didn't reveal Christopher Eccleston in makeup. No, but seriously, Warners needs to pay for some more bandwidth to this because the site doesn't respond that well. It took a long time to crunch my email address, and then nearly forever for the X/Y access stuff which only removed one square pixel, and that's it. It does work with Gmail though.
Am I The Only One... by Anton_Sirius	May 19th, 2007 04:59:47 PM
WAY more excited by the thought of Eckhart as Two-Face down the road than by the thought of Ledger as the Joker... ?
Yes. by Breadocide	May 19th, 2007 05:00:31 PM
Yes.
"Trying to cheat a cheater..." by Mosquito March	May 19th, 2007 05:04:56 PM
Everytime I punch in my email address and the code and hit "submit", a blood-spattered message comes up: "TRYING TO CHEAT A CHEATER. YOU MAKE ME SMILE." And then I never get the email. WTF?
Mosquito- did you put in your adress twice? by Mike_D	May 19th, 2007 05:09:52 PM
Or hit submit twice? probably why.
My respect for Warners marketing is increased by TheGreenStyle	May 19th, 2007 05:09:54 PM
They are taking this movie serously. Far more than they did Begins.
Mike_D - yeah, I've got the "5 minutes" message, now. by Mosquito March	May 19th, 2007 05:10:48 PM
But no email.
For yahoo mail users - check your JUNKMAIL by Mike_D	May 19th, 2007 05:13:42 PM
I found mine after my 5 minutes was up in my junk mail folder under 10 pieces of junk. The sender is "Tragic Past".
Hotmail doesn't seem to work. by JackBauer24	May 19th, 2007 05:13:59 PM
I tried it hours ago and never got an email.
I revealed a widdle bitty pixel on Dent's collar by Zeke25:17	May 19th, 2007 05:14:23 PM
Sheesh, how many people are gonna haveta do this before we see the pic: hundred thousand or so? Gotta say though: clever idea. The look of the Joker is extremely important; I still say he was drawn the best in The Killing Joke; and I just don't think Ledger can match that unless he drops about 90 lbs like (ironically) Christian Bale did in The Machinist.
Holy moly... by FilmZ0mbie	May 19th, 2007 05:17:43 PM
Fucking Awesome. used my personal and business e-mails. Bet we can get this revealed by tonight.
You know, this is a big pain in the ass. by Mosquito March	May 19th, 2007 05:18:00 PM
I'm officially tired of doing the gruntwork on this. I'm sure the Joker face will be everywhere tomorrow.
NONE of my e mail accts work. by JunoFallon	May 19th, 2007 05:19:18 PM
I've got a two hotmail accounts, a yahoo account, and a pop mail account that came with my website and after 20 mins none of them work. Wonder what the deal is.
use this to reveal lots of pixels by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 05:19:18 PM
http://www.10minutemail.com
Hurry all you morons, so I can see what's underneath... by Riley Martin	May 19th, 2007 05:20:56 PM
Why should I give my sacred email address to god knows how many spam marketers when I know there's thousands of idiots out there that will do it for me? So hurry up - I'm checking back tomorrow and it better be done. :)
well... by keyserSOZE	May 19th, 2007 05:21:14 PM
i've done it with two e-mail addresses, and it STILL has not sent me the e-mail that it apparently needs me to have in order to "play." lame.
mailinator.com addresses WORK. by TheGreenStyle	May 19th, 2007 05:22:06 PM
made up 3 hour email. I have to go to work, but bretheren, LAUNCH AN ALL-OUT ASSAULT ON THIS THING WITH A BARRAGE OF TEMP EMAILS!!! There. This fucker should be down by the time I get home.
The 10min mail thing WORKS DO IT! by JunoFallon	May 19th, 2007 05:23:25 PM
http://www.10minutemail.com Awesome! Got the e mail in less than 2mins.
works perfectly here... by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 05:23:53 PM
I've revealed about 20 pixels so far :-)
I can kinda see it. by IronSpidey	May 19th, 2007 05:24:30 PM
But I am not sure if it is the real Joker or a drawing.
www.10minutemail.com WORKED!!! by Err	May 19th, 2007 05:26:08 PM
I revealed a pixel in the blue in the lower right quadrant of the picture.
COME ON ALREADY! by TheFunkyEnigma	May 19th, 2007 05:30:07 PM
IVE BEEN WAIT 2 FUCKIN YEARS FOR THIS!
"Check your email. You have 5 minutes to play." Right. by robogeek.com	May 19th, 2007 05:30:40 PM
10 minutes later, I still haven't gotten an email. Impressive execution, Warners!
cool, I just totally... by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 05:31:13 PM
revealed the only flesh-colored pixel in the lowest row of the image lol
just an idea by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 05:33:23 PM
can someone make a screenshot of your partially unraveled picture and put it online somewhere? I'd like to check whether we all see exactly the same revealed pixels
THAT's the Joker!?!??! by leavittj1982	May 19th, 2007 05:34:31 PM
You've gotta be kiddin' me! Look, batman-on-film.com thinks it has the image of the Joker that's underneath. I really hope it's not the Joker in full makeup. It looks awful. To think that the Joker looks like a normal guy with white skin, dark eye shadow and a lipstick smear...! Surely not!
Without a doubt by TheFunkyEnigma	May 19th, 2007 05:37:17 PM
This is one of the best marketing ideas ever..... I know im a geek, but i find this fucking exciting!
Mine's quite evident too.. by JacknChucksLovechild	May 19th, 2007 05:37:58 PM
the only reddish one in the underline of the word "TOO"
It's Ledger with a white face - WHAT A SURPRISE!!!! by performingmonkey	May 19th, 2007 05:40:21 PM
Why do people think The Joker is going to look like anything other than Heath Ledger with a white face, green hair and red lips?? The only difference with Nicholson was the crazy perma-smile and they're never going to do that again.
performingmonkey by leavittj1982	May 19th, 2007 05:42:15 PM
It's WORSE than Ledger with red lips; it's Ledger with smeared lipstick! I can't help but feel a little cheated.
Ledger with a white face, eye shadow and red lips... by leavittj1982	May 19th, 2007 05:46:24 PM
... would've worked for me. I can see how they might have chosen that in an effort to be more realistic, or to mirror the appearance of the Joker in the landmark work, The Dark Knight Returns. But SMEARED LIPSTICK!?!?! Who came up with THAT idea!? I mean, that's not realistic; that's SLOPPY! He's not the victim of a color-altering substance; he's the victim of putting his makeup on in a moving vehicle!!! All hail the great and powerful crime boss who brought all of Gotham to his knees! C'MON! He can't even put his own MAKEUP on!!!
when you respond to the email... by CTUBAUER	May 19th, 2007 05:46:33 PM
this is what you get: People always ask me about my charming boyish smile. Jessica used to love it. She was the loneliest girl in high school, and my first big kiss...
what it looks like now by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 05:46:49 PM
www.avi-film.com/joker5.jpg
From what I can see in the pixels... by IronSpidey	May 19th, 2007 05:48:16 PM
The lip makeup isn't smeared.
Don't be so hasty to judge... by JunoFallon	May 19th, 2007 05:50:05 PM
Knowing Nolan and company, this picture is just a teaser, and most likely will not be what his final appearance as the Joker looks like. I can't see him going so overly plain with it that he just smears some lipstick on the man. Remember folks, were working with a trickster here (Nolan not the Joker. lol)
For those who can't see it... by Deathpool	May 19th, 2007 05:50:10 PM
The email states: "I always say, you never know what a man is truly made of until you peel the skin off his face one piece at a time. Here is your chance to help." Then gives a link and the X/Y code. I took out a piece of Harv's lip, if it matters. The word's make me think Joker's got something to do with Harvey becoming Two-Face.
Lipstick? Eh, what craziness are you talking about,? by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 05:51:20 PM
"Lipstick? Eh, what craziness are you talking about, woman? There is no lipstick!" ;-) it's just the normal color of his lips showing, where he didn't put on any white make-up
Everybody needs to relax until the image is revelealed by Mike_D	May 19th, 2007 05:52:19 PM
the other "photoshopped" images are just that...photoshopped. I'll reserve my judgement until i get a de-pixilated image.
JunFallon by Mosquito March	May 19th, 2007 05:53:02 PM
That would be a pretty self-destructive action on the part of Nolan, wouldn't it? He's already taken some well-deserved slamming on the fight cinematography in the first film, and I say that as a huge fan of BATMAN BEGINS. I just don't see how he or the film would be served by releasing a fake image.
Deathpools theory sounds kind of fun... by JunoFallon	May 19th, 2007 05:53:56 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing that. Could be really cool. I'm also with Mike_D. It's SO hard to tell with those half decoded pixel images. I want high res before I totally critique...
Re: Who would have thought... by leavittj1982	May 19th, 2007 05:54:03 PM
Who WOULDN'T 've thought it! We, the all-authoritative fan-base, care deeply about this sort of thing. For example, we complained about Optimus; we complained about the raised webbing; we even complained about other things. Fortunately for the producers, the only thing yours truly care about that much is the Batman series. We wanted something at least a little better than something that looks like it was produced by a 5th-grader having fun with Photoshop during recess.
Mosquito... by JunoFallon	May 19th, 2007 05:56:28 PM
I don't disagree, but even if the image is a "fake" of some sorts or more of a "teaser" of the Joker than anything then, either way they win. This whole thing has everyone excited (myself included lol. The seed has been planted as it were...
How fucking wicked is this?! by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 06:06:32 PM
This is almost too elaborate to be a hoax (though the possibility remains). I have a feeling TDK is going to put other comic movies to shame, and force me to write in Harvey Dent for president in Nov. 2008. How long have (some of us) waited for a truly deranged Joker?
If you gotta go... by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 06:14:30 PM
Go with a smile! Although this could be Marilyn Manson.
10minutemail.com Use this! by topper44	May 19th, 2007 06:15:53 PM
gives you an instantaneous email account that lasts for 10 minutes before expiring
I can already see by Automaton Overlord	May 19th, 2007 06:19:05 PM
that hes got six fingers!
probably not the Joker himself by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 06:21:31 PM
maybe the guy in the picture is dead... killed by the Joker... looks kinda like a bullet entry hole there on his chin... might even be a woman... wait, isn't this the Joker's girlfriend with the white mask from Tim Burton's BATMAN?
probably not the Joker himself by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 06:22:30 PM
maybe the guy in the picture is dead... killed by the Joker... looks kinda like a bullet entry hole there on his chin... might even be a woman... wait, isn't this the Joker's girlfriend with the white mask from Tim Burton's BATMAN?
progress by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 06:29:07 PM
http://www.avi-film.com/joker6 .jpg
I went to Meltdown a few years back... They're all a... by Negative Man	May 19th, 2007 06:30:08 PM
...bunch of cocky wankers. They really think working in a comic store in the middle of Hollywood means something in life. They aren't helpful, they look down on their customers, and I'm pretty sure they shower with incense. Not to mention the prices were OUTRAGEOUS. The only way they must make money is off new comics and dupes that think it's cool to buy comics on Sunset. They're only one uped by Golden Apple...the absolute WORST comic store on the planet! Well, that I've been to at least...
How pissed will Warner Brothers be ... by chrth	May 19th, 2007 06:30:26 PM
When they send out the next marketing email and get 40,000 undeliverable messages?
so i still haven't received the e-mail... by keyserSOZE	May 19th, 2007 06:34:29 PM
the whole, "check your e-mail within 5 minutes to play" thing...yep, i STILL have not received that e-mail. nice work, douchebags.
I WANT THIS IMAGE REVEALED BY SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 06:40:20 PM
come on !!!!!!!!!!
Wow by Smashing	May 19th, 2007 06:41:14 PM
I got my mail from Google no problems, did you read that bit about cutting the skin off a mans face being good for something or other?, creepy, I invited the sender to join Google mail and got this back as a reply "People always ask me about my charming boyish smile. Jessica used to love it. She was the loneliest girl in high school, and my first big kiss..." Pretty damn effective play.
i can see something green!!! by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 06:44:13 PM
green?
This is prob best someone here has gotten. by Smashing	May 19th, 2007 06:49:05 PM
http://www.avi-film.com/joker3 .jpg
So, plotwise... by Burgundy82	May 19th, 2007 06:49:46 PM
... are we getting an abridged version of the long halloween here, sans holiday killer? will Falcone be back this time around? already heard cilian murphy will be back in the burlap mask...
Truly exciting geekness by kafka07	May 19th, 2007 06:51:24 PM
and ingenious marketing.
Nice marketing gimmick, too bad it will probably reveal by JackPumpkinhead	May 19th, 2007 06:51:29 PM
...a giant turd. If the "gray cut face" description is real, and if Nolan will go for his moronic "realism" again. "Curses, I must make my movie about a guy who dresses in a black bat costume and jumps between roofs in order to scare supercriminals bent on destroying the world EXTREEEMELY realistic! That's my priority number one!"
Image so far by fozziebear53	May 19th, 2007 06:52:41 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/alb ums/b299/poochthedawg/harvey.j pg
lets go! by mattthebat	May 19th, 2007 06:53:08 PM
why has this picture not been revealed yet? i would think that with the amount of geeks out there that this wouldve been done with sooner.
It's Peter Criss! by lucasjackson	May 19th, 2007 06:54:12 PM
and he wants to Rock and Roll all night and then take a nap. He's pretty old you know.
www.L.A.M.E:.......com.org. by Kai_Mah'gra	May 19th, 2007 06:54:22 PM
......that is all.
this is what it currently looks like by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 06:54:47 PM
http://www.avi-film.com/joker7 .jpg
it's just a mask!!!! by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 06:54:57 PM
a mask!!!!!!!!!! why???????????!!!!!!!:(
The mask. by TheFunkyEnigma	May 19th, 2007 06:58:34 PM
I heard that the joker is going to start of as a "nutjob" in a mask, then envolving some some shanagins with batman, ends up in the acid tank, and the mask is printed on his face as it burns, turning him into "super nutjob"
That Would be the shizzlenittle by Cigsandcoffee1756	May 19th, 2007 07:00:56 PM
FunkyEnigma, I don't know were you heard that but that would definitely be a sweet way to go about it. Totally fits into the realism angle.
But yeah, looks like this is the rubber thug mask. by JackPumpkinhead	May 19th, 2007 07:01:11 PM
Hopefully, at least. Otherwise... Howard the Duck lips? It looks like a blind tranny trying to apply powder and lipstick in the morning... http://img523.imageshack.us/im g523/9645/joekerryn0.jpg
Harvey Dent... the joker? by dundundles	May 19th, 2007 07:02:13 PM
It kind of looks like the pic of Harvey dent, just whited up to look like the joker... will know in a few hours... Mask could be a good idea.
No, that's ledger's face all right... by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 07:03:08 PM
i took the liberty of doing a quick photoshop reconstruction from the available portions of the picture: http://i20.photobucket.com/alb ums/b210/ollirudi/joker63.jpg
yeah its what i thought the funkyenigma... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 07:03:40 PM
so we will see his origin as the jocker cool!!!!!!!!! but the acid should kill you right, melt your body like the bad guy in robocop but ... well this is still a mask
silliness... by Damer1	May 19th, 2007 07:05:43 PM
i think it's all a big joke
Photoshopping by mattthebat	May 19th, 2007 07:08:40 PM
just like to send out a thanks to all the guys who are posting the images with all the front poster crap gone. much appreciated
that's why he call himself the joker ....mehhhhh!!!.. by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 07:10:30 PM
the joker hahahahaha.... mehhhhhhhhh and yes he is ledger but with a mask duh...!!!
Thanks... by VanLingoMungo	May 19th, 2007 07:13:01 PM
To everybody who is putting in the effort, putting the updated pictures in the talkback. The rest of you whiny little nonce pieces of shit, quit fucking complaining. Ooooh, it may be a mask. Waaaaaaaaa! It very well may be, but it's better than a kick in the nuts. Quitcher bitching and enjoy it.
mattthebat by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:13:06 PM
you're welcome :-)
christ, I've been sat here for almost two hours... by TheFunkyEnigma	May 19th, 2007 07:13:20 PM
waiting for the picture, yet I still got another fucking year to wait for the film!
I did my part by HeWhoCannotBeNamed	May 19th, 2007 07:16:55 PM
twice (2 different e-mail accounts) crafty (them, not me)
so vanlingo ... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 07:17:17 PM
do i have to enjoy a mask? you moron Warner a want my time back!!!!!!
Wah! by dundundles	May 19th, 2007 07:19:00 PM
then stop wasting your time posting on something that is already as you say... wasting your time.
Anyone else feel kinda united? by TheFunkyEnigma	May 19th, 2007 07:22:55 PM
As sad as this may sound, its kinda cool us talk-backers taking part in in something that will eventually reward us all with that fucking picture............WE ARE BROTHERS!
ummmmmmm by mattthebat	May 19th, 2007 07:23:13 PM
would it be possible to get another update on the ol pic?
cry more dundundles....!!! by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 07:27:22 PM
cry more!!!!!
I'm having fun. by AnchorpersonOnTV	May 19th, 2007 07:29:05 PM
Gonna be an extra on the movie next month here in Chi-Town. Should be cool. Love the flicks and am having fun helping out with this. Two pixels so far.
WAH WAH WAH!!! by dundundles	May 19th, 2007 07:29:37 PM
No seriously, I'm riveted by this little pixel reveal. And I'm not being sarcastic... I keep refreshing the page, caught up in this thing... That and I'm on Duty and have nothing better to do.
The Dark Knight just got cooler... by Artifakts	May 19th, 2007 07:29:46 PM
Very cool marketing idea. Top marks for whoever came up with this idea.
there ya go... by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:33:41 PM
http://www.avi-film.com/joker9 .jpg
trying to cheat a cheater: you make me smile! by Zardoz	May 19th, 2007 07:35:40 PM
That's the message I got when I tried to get a 2nd email. Guess we only get one shot per account? Get busy, geeks!
I guess we're about half there now by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:35:57 PM
don't get lazy now, people! it's not bad what we got, but it's far from done
Looks like... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 07:36:08 PM
it's just a mask. Either that, or this Joker eats balls.
Mask is better than... by dundundles	May 19th, 2007 07:38:51 PM
that Crow looking crap we were fed a month ago.
you can make out what the pic is a bit by Power_Girl	May 19th, 2007 07:41:20 PM
Its a face with dark eyes and a big grin...safe o say it is the joker.
Someone beat me to it by leavittj1982	May 19th, 2007 07:41:35 PM
myspace.c om/ ibelieveinharveydenttoo myspace.c om / ibelieveinharveydent
I did my part - have YOU?? by Undercover Fanboy	May 19th, 2007 07:43:06 PM
I resubmitted my email address after getting nada the first time through, and got my X/Y coordinates emailed to me in a flash. For those that were out of luck before, try it again.
do it as often as you like by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:43:48 PM
use http://www.10minutemail.com
im submitting a bunch of fake email addresses. by dr.bulber	May 19th, 2007 07:44:01 PM
joker will be getting tons of returned emails. heehee!
I find this by Bruce Leroy	May 19th, 2007 07:44:21 PM
Pretty cool. Just hope they don't go for something as simple as the Cesar Romero look. I'd be extremely disappointed. I can be wrong but from the last reconstruction i saw, it looks as if the side of his face is mutilated. Could that my mind is just playing tricks...oh well.
His eyes... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 07:45:09 PM
isn't the Joker supposed to be "less about his laugh and more about his eyes"? I want to see his eyes. Hurry up, you cock-gobbling cum clowns.
2nd image reconstruction by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 07:45:36 PM
this makes me feel like i'm in a bad cop show. A little clearer now, enjoy: http://i20.photobucket.com/alb ums/b210/ollirudi/reconstructi on2.jpg
fake email addresses? by thefoggiest	May 19th, 2007 07:46:10 PM
won't it actually take longer for us all if people submit fake email addresses?
Who is that "Tom" guy on Myspace by Gwai Lo	May 19th, 2007 07:48:46 PM
I joined Myspace just so I could look at the pictures of Michael Myers on the Rob Zombie page when they first come out. Within minutes that Tom guy had added me. Who the hell is he? Why is he bent on having millions of friends? Is he the owner of Myspace or something? I did my part and knocked out a pixel. Maybe I'll do another. That 10 Minute Mail thing is useful as hell, how many times have I needed some dummy account to register for some stupid site? Thanks to whoever posted that. I think I'll save my Joker comments for when the picture is fully revealed.
and yeah, it def looks like by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 07:49:05 PM
and yeah, it def looks like they've gone the way of mutilated cheeks
ollirudi by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:50:06 PM
these are pretty good!
DAMN YOU MYSPACE TOM!! by dundundles	May 19th, 2007 07:51:05 PM
DAMN YOU MYSPACE TOM!!
TheFunkyEnigma by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:51:47 PM
yeah, feels nice :-)
Would reporting him do much good? by Gwai Lo	May 19th, 2007 07:54:06 PM
If he's on everyone's Myspace that would make him infamous?
thefoggiest- no. by dr.bulber	May 19th, 2007 07:54:57 PM
you will just have to work a little faster thats all. im keeping mr. joker busy so you can sneak up on him.
thanks skynetbauxi! by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 07:55:01 PM
it's not like i should be doing any actual work anyway:)
his eyes are closed in the pic and he isn't smiling by Power_Girl	May 19th, 2007 07:55:24 PM
He has two gaping cuts by his lips and red lipstick smeared over it.
Someone better get a screen cap when its almost done by Gwai Lo	May 19th, 2007 07:56:03 PM
I have a feeling it's going to disappear or turn into one of those shrieking flash things after the big reveal
bulber by thefoggiest	May 19th, 2007 07:57:43 PM
good plan, i'm on it...
ollirudi by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 07:58:12 PM
heheh, same here
I only got Hotmail.... by The Dum Guy	May 19th, 2007 07:58:51 PM
So, I can't see this shite or help out... Why the hating on Hotmail?
Humor by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:01:04 PM
I have a feeling that they're going to make this Joker not funny at all. He's going to be "too dark", which isn't going to be dark at all, since this is a PG-13 movie. I heard that the Joker is going to turn the water supply into Jell-O. Yup. Fuck you all.
possibly by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 08:01:16 PM
Chrisitan Bale in joker makeup?
this may take a while... by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 08:02:02 PM
my guess would be the picture won't be complete before next week or so... 'cause as it gets almost complete, more and more people are gonna feel like they've pretty much seen it and lose interest... and it's gonna be up to a bunch of real geeks like us to finish it
Joker by Negate	May 19th, 2007 08:02:24 PM
For those who say the Joker doesn't wear lipstick, read The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller (Sin City, 300). He uses poison lipstick, and mind control lipstick (if I remember correctly). It looks like this Joker's grin is carved into the face. My guess is he mutalated himself.
Joker's not funny though by Gwai Lo	May 19th, 2007 08:02:55 PM
Absurd, yes. But his jokes are rarely funny to anyone but himself.
so, Batman is trying to stop Dane Cook in this one? by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 08:05:15 PM
.
Both of my e-mails worked... by qemuel	May 19th, 2007 08:06:45 PM
...although my Yahoo! account took a couple of minutes to show up. My Gmail was instantaneous. Two more down.
Batman Vs Pandaman! by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 08:07:32 PM
...just kidding. actually, i think i've seen enough to say it looks great now!
Harry must be creating now a lot of e-mails ... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 08:07:37 PM
just to finish this shit. what a geek!!!!!!!!!!!!
bleagh!!! pppfffttt!!! by f a w k e s	May 19th, 2007 08:08:18 PM
I can't bother to read all of these comments to see if anyone else has already suggested this, but: with all this talk of mutilated cheeks and tranny make-up, has no one considered that it's a picture with fingers pulling the corners of the mouth w i d e and tongue protruding forth, sputtering and issuing forth microscopic (yet expensive) droplets of Ledger (or Eckhart) saliva? ... Just a thought...
Where did the guy taking the Harvey pixels out go by Gwai Lo	May 19th, 2007 08:09:12 PM
WE NEED YOU MAN
This image has come a long way in the last few hours by zillabeast	May 19th, 2007 08:09:56 PM
You can start making out a white face, for sure. It's definitely Heath.
jesus this is gonna take forever by supermarch	May 19th, 2007 08:11:08 PM
if only someone would download the embedded flash shell and grab the pic right out of it? Great picture.
Here's a direct link to the image... by I Hope You Die	May 19th, 2007 08:12:05 PM
So you can more easily see what's going on. http://tinyurl.com/2o2sdn
supermarch by I Hope You Die	May 19th, 2007 08:14:40 PM
The URL I posted above is the actual image the flash movie downloads (I decompiled it like you suggested) and it's being generated server-side, so there's no way to cheat and download the whole thing. They were smart.
In DKR, by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:14:54 PM
the mind-control lipstick is purple. Also, the Joker is supposed to be elderly in DKR...like 67 or some shit. Also, he fucks cats.
So this is how... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 08:15:27 PM
Warner is traying to find out how many people are interested in this movie. ZILLIONS!!!!!!! I want a teaser with harry potter 5!!!!
well that sucks? by supermarch	May 19th, 2007 08:17:13 PM
Thanks for the effort though. I guess I'll just have to wait for forever. Damn you Warner IT guy!
But is Maggie Harley? by BenIdom	May 19th, 2007 08:17:50 PM
I am just going to paste a clip of the 40 minute long convo I had with a friend about my far too high standards for this film because I thought Batman Begins would be terrible but I saw it 7 times in theatres and another 30 on dvd and is my second favorite film only to Field of Dreams: -i am just praying to God that since the script has been kept under such lock and key that chris nolan is keeping a sick ace up his sleeve and that maggie gyllenhall is actually going to be Harley Quinn and not Rachel Dawes. as a fan. i would worship the ground nolan walked on if he pulled something that huge. to me that would be as big a move as the secret they kept that Darth Vader was actually Luke's father in Empire. -yeah but isnt she just slated to take over for rachel homes? -that is the word on imdb. but if they are on closed sets than who knows? -wow. that would be fucking amazing!
ollirudi, your myspace page is f'ed up by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 08:18:58 PM
how about another progress report skynetbauxi?
the latest version by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 08:22:00 PM
http://www.avi-film.com/joker1 1.jpg
Has anyone heard... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:22:24 PM
if the Scarecrow will be back? I think this movie will be as good as "Van Helsing" or that Captain America movie starring J.D. Salinger's kid. Eat shit and die, you fucking cheeky boys.
i thought all myspace pages were fucked up by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 08:23:22 PM
the webdesign is horrid, anyway.
BenIdom is dumb by supermarch	May 19th, 2007 08:24:35 PM
Please come back when you're not frequenting imdb message boards for facts.
His face... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:26:10 PM
his head is slighty tilted back and his eyes are half-open. He has bad acne, too. He's the before picture in a Pro-Active commercial.
ollirudi is dumb by supermarch	May 19th, 2007 08:26:23 PM
web design? It's a flash page u dolt. Not much design to it. Der
but not judgemental! by BenIdom	May 19th, 2007 08:28:51 PM
How does what I wish would happen in the sequel make me dumb? I just told my friend that as a quick reference.
supermarch by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 08:29:56 PM
well, i was referring to myspace, not the dent teaser page. not that it matters.
He doesn't look menacing.... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 08:32:36 PM
yet... I'm sure there will be toys of this psycho with the happy meals next year. "Yes mom, i want this psycho-killer with my big mac" well done warner you did it again
His mouth by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:33:50 PM
Looks mangled as George Bush's language skills and Courtney Love's goo-pot cubed and then multiplied by Pi. I think the Joker is going to be a gay hustler in this movie. He might also sell dictionaries door to door.
skynetbauxi by mattthebat	May 19th, 2007 08:37:08 PM
the last link you sent doesnt work....or maybe its just my computer...who knows....thanks again for posting these
A "smile" like the Captians in Pan's by BenIdom	May 19th, 2007 08:38:55 PM
I was also thinking it would be pretty badass if they gave him a sliced open mouth like the way the Captains mouth was sliced open in Pans Labyrinth and you coud see all his teeth. Just a thought.
Eyes Open But Black? by KnightBorn	May 19th, 2007 08:38:59 PM
From this photoshop (http://i20.photobucket.com/al bums/b210/ollirudi/reconstruct ion2.jpg)posted earlier, it seems to me that his eyes are actually open but is wearing black "all-eye" contacts....which if true, would look very creepy. Dead eyes.
facial reconstruction update 3 by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 08:39:08 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/alb ums/b210/ollirudi/recreation3. jpg
Well, judging by the lips, it's Angelina Jolie. by JackPumpkinhead	May 19th, 2007 08:40:06 PM
He seems to look somewhat like this: http://www.nightmarefactory.co m/FA60.jpg
Fuck it all by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:44:20 PM
Dwight Schrute from The Office is scarier than this douche bag. This Joker sits around watching "Best Week Ever" and listens to Sheila E's "The Glamorous Life" while shaving his pubes with a Gilette Venus razor. He also doesn't like football, eats White Castle, read "Babysitter Club" books, uses mascera, and he likes "Gilmore Girls". This Joker sucks. All the things I wrote above are in the script I read. I got the script from this homeless retard who was eating sardines, wearing a Superman III T-shirt, and he was smearing poop on the window of the public library. His name is Renny Harlin.
mattthebat by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 08:44:57 PM
you're right! now it's really online: http://www.avi-film.com/joker1 1.jpg (don't forget to remove the spaces)
Van Buren, the images they're uploading are edited by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 08:45:12 PM
it's not that people are lazy that they can't just go to the site and look, it's that (I assumed you saw the site already) there is something in the way, mainly the banner, that doesn't give you the full effect
Van Buren by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 08:46:48 PM
on the actual site it's a little hard to see the hidden picture, with the Harvey Dent picture still mixed in... that's why us people remove the Dent image
GERRRRR-RILLLLLA-MARKETING by THE KNIGHT	May 19th, 2007 08:47:26 PM
I tells ya it is!
Colonel Activity by Breadocide	May 19th, 2007 08:48:27 PM
Is a cow fucking idiot.
ollirudi by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 08:48:43 PM
awesome!
"Try to Cheat a Cheater." by BenIdom	May 19th, 2007 08:49:44 PM
Putting in your email address you already used is actually kind of fun too cause he of the message in the block!
where is the hair?? by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 08:50:43 PM
and looks like a drag queen now
Colonel Activity by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 08:52:17 PM
is the biggest bad ass on this board.
red lips = batman symbol by Jubba	May 19th, 2007 08:52:56 PM
the red lips look like they are shaped the same as the bat symbol
Colonel Activity by Breadocide	May 19th, 2007 08:53:45 PM
Is my father. He broke my mom's heart and now I'm out for revenge.
good night by skynetbauxi	May 19th, 2007 08:54:06 PM
just added pixel no. 604x310 and uploaded http://www.avi-film.com/joker1 2.jpg and now I'm going to bed (it's almost 4 a.m. over here). guess this'll look great tomorrow morning. it's been fun, guys
facial reconstruction 4 by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 08:55:48 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/alb ums/b210/ollirudi/reconstructi on4.jpg there's enough material to reconstruct a fairly accurate representation of the look now... dunno why i bother though, the whole thing's gonna be visible tomorrow anyway.
So is Rachel Dawes going to be supporting Dent or by chrth	May 19th, 2007 08:56:49 PM
Opposing him? And how will the Joker's animosity towards Dent get Dawes in distress?
... by snafu069	May 19th, 2007 08:57:07 PM
In the reconstructions people are doing, they're making his lips really thick. Looks to me likes he's actually showing some teeth in that smile, right above where the blue panel starts in the Harvey Dent image. Just a thought, might make your reconstructions a little less, uh, Jolie-like.
The face is getting quite clear now by photoboy	May 19th, 2007 08:58:28 PM
Quite a cool way to reveal the new Joker.
Dawes is no Mary Jane!!!!! by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 09:00:31 PM
i hope... the damsel in distress formula meehhh....
snafu069 by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 09:01:28 PM
i'm not actually adding any material to the reconstructions, merely duplicating the pixels nex to the missing areas...so it's fuzzy, but it should be fairly accurate to the final picture.
how come??? by Lukin	May 19th, 2007 09:04:49 PM
how come it aint clear yet,cmon boyos,give us a proper smile :)
there does seem to be a hint of teeth though... by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 09:07:31 PM
as if a bit of his lip was missing.
It's obvious! by Negate	May 19th, 2007 09:10:16 PM
I think he's going to look a lot like the picture of Dent. Blackened eyes & smeared lipstick. I don't know why I didn't see it sooner.
"I am the world's first fully-functional... by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 09:10:29 PM
homicidal artist." Warner Bros., you are geniuses.
ollirudi by snafu069	May 19th, 2007 09:10:45 PM
Are you talking about the textured area on the right side? Could be white scar tissue, like if he had had stitches there.
Scars by Alcevious	May 19th, 2007 09:17:31 PM
Definitely looks like the sides of the lips are all scared up--think Pan's Labyrinth.
This Joker sucks... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 09:19:18 PM
you heard it here first. Cesar Romero or bust.
I remember when I saw Pan's Labyrinth... by AnchorpersonOnTV	May 19th, 2007 09:19:58 PM
...when Capitán Vidal opens his sliced mouth a bit... First thought was how that would look cool if they did that effect with the Joker. They're not exactly doing that, but hey. Love him having self-inflicted scars, regardless.
seeing a mouth like that by BadMrWonka	May 19th, 2007 09:21:38 PM
always makes me remember in film school when I got Toshiro Mifune's name confused with Takashi Miike... so embarrassing...
His lipstick... by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 09:21:50 PM
does resemble a rudimentary bat logo. Can we just skip this summer and all of it's shit movies and go straight to summer '08?
I think his showing his tongue by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	May 19th, 2007 09:22:15 PM
on us (look at that shadow at the middle of his mouth, right above the blue stripe)
Made my post without seeing Alcevicious' by AnchorpersonOnTV	May 19th, 2007 09:22:57 PM
Nice timing. Haha.
Sorry by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	May 19th, 2007 09:23:46 PM
"HE'S showing his tongue..." Damn I'm excited.
Colonel Activity, we get it... by VanLingoMungo	May 19th, 2007 09:24:24 PM
You don't like it. You've said it a number of times. Duly noted. Hey, everybody, Colonel Activity doesn't like it. Roger that. 10 fucking 4, good buddy.
Definatly sticking out his tounge by Negate	May 19th, 2007 09:24:26 PM
^^^
You know what I think would be cool... by MaulRat	May 19th, 2007 09:24:36 PM
I see the Scarring runs along the jawline, along where the teeth are, what if when he smiles you see the scars open up revealing ALL his teeth.. so he doesn't smile like Nicholson or the grinch, or some Gay cowboy wearing makeup... but more like an ALIEN........
here's another portrayal by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 09:24:37 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/al bums/w57/stink_fish/53946cdc.j pg I know, it looks like the one sheet for Factory Girl
I tried to by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 09:24:56 PM
get all those sociopaths on the Rambo thread to join in. That's helping the cause, no? Oh, and on a different subject, isn't it awesome that Jim and Pam are hooking up.
Again, thanks to those folks putting up the pics by VanLingoMungo	May 19th, 2007 09:25:58 PM
Really appreciate the effort. We all do. Very cool.
tickle this by BadMrWonka	May 19th, 2007 09:27:02 PM
you should have drawn just lines with hash marks on them for scars, like you did as a kid...you know? that would be even funnier!
OH MY GOD!!! by MaulRat	May 19th, 2007 09:27:57 PM
ITS PAUL STANLEY!!!..... Evidently KISS is making a comeback... ROCK ON!
Actually... by MaulRat	May 19th, 2007 09:31:33 PM
It looks more like Peter Cris than Paul Stanley... or maybe since he "has his tounge haning out" it might be Gene Simmons.... It can't be ACE.... it hasnt got the right amount of Gay.
"I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard." by Flim Springfield	May 19th, 2007 09:32:22 PM

AWESOME!!! by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 09:32:25 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yqkufw The guy on the left rules over all of you. Fuckers.
alright, this is the last one from me... by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 09:32:36 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/alb ums/b210/ollirudi/reconstructi on5.jpg it's getting late over here and the image is getting pretty clear anyway. dunno what causes the bumps on the right edge of his face, might be the missing pixels in that area affecting the end result...either that, scarring or his hair.
eter Cris? by Negate	May 19th, 2007 09:32:42 PM
Nobody wants to be Peter Cris. Not even Peter Cris!
BadMrWonka, like this? by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 09:33:46 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/al bums/w57/stink_fish/3a076396.j pg
Not showing his tounge by Alcevious	May 19th, 2007 09:34:01 PM
I think the white paint just doesn't cover right below his lip and what you're seeing is skin color. Also I don't think teeth are showing in this picture, the revealed pixels are all black.
C'mon by Negate	May 19th, 2007 09:35:50 PM
It's the Joker, of course he's sticking his tounge out! lol
The Joker Image Ripped from file structure by anansie	May 19th, 2007 09:36:40 PM
I took this image from tree on the website - here is a link http://www.flickr.com/photos/a nansei/505199918/
corrected link by anansie	May 19th, 2007 09:37:29 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/a nansei/505199918/
The link isn't working by Night of the Living Kris	May 19th, 2007 09:38:08 PM
The last few photos don't work.
I hope there's more than this.... by Jabbu	May 19th, 2007 09:38:16 PM
The first shot of Joker should be with a crazy-ass grin. Not like some reject juggalo at 3:30am getting back from an ICP concert.
Or, you could click reply by mattvideo	May 19th, 2007 09:39:14 PM
I replied to the email. Addressed it to the joker. Got this back as a response: People always ask me about my charming boyish smile. Jessica used to love it. She was the loneliest girl in high school, and my first big kiss...
Joker Pic - Relink by anansie	May 19th, 2007 09:39:48 PM
www.flickr.com/photos/anansei/ 505199918/ anansei w/o spaces -
the eyes by The Only Woj	May 19th, 2007 09:39:49 PM
could easily be because of shadow. based on the light source (see the shadow under the nose), his eyes might be dark without there being makeup present. keep in mind the picture outside the trailers in Chicago. there didn't appear to be heavy eye makeup present.
Best movie I've ever seen? by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 09:43:37 PM
Van Helsing. It rules, because this Joker sucks. The Joker should have a purple face with yellow lips with a pair of Arabian Googles.
So what does this tell us.... by MrScratch0753	May 19th, 2007 09:44:12 PM
...about the story? It would appear that the Joker has a hate on for Harvey....does this mean that Two-Face's origin/creation is now attributed to the Joker? (i.e., is he the one that disfigures him?) For a streamlining of plot/character lines, this makes sense, I guess, but it smacks just a bit of Jack killing Keaton's parents instead of Joe Chill in Burton's not-aging-very-well-except-for -Keaton flick....any thoughts?
cheek to cheek by The Only Woj	May 19th, 2007 09:47:29 PM
has anyone noticed that the smile looks like it's marked cheek to cheek? didn't BOF have a spy that reported this?
Colonel Activity by Specktron	May 19th, 2007 09:48:05 PM
..is that you? Cute? Us hot 'gals' dig that shizzle. You must get the mizzeat often.
ticklethis by BadMrWonka	May 19th, 2007 09:49:28 PM
no no, like in a crude drawing, whenever you see a scar, it always looks like a line, with hash marks through it. like this: --\|-\|-\|-\|--
No thanks by Mr Bonefish	May 19th, 2007 09:50:03 PM
I have better things to do than follow the sheep.
Full Image from BOF by Night of the Living Kris	May 19th, 2007 09:50:22 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/b atmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages /heath_joker_ibelieveinharveyd enttoo. jpg Hm, looks pretty crap if youask me
Full Image from BOF by Night of the Living Kris	May 19th, 2007 09:50:25 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/b atmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages /heath_joker_ibelieveinharveyd enttoo. jpg Hm, looks pretty crap if you ask me
Completed Image... by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 09:51:58 PM
...on batman-on-film.com! Kickass it is, and anyone who says otherwise hates America. It's just enough to appease the rabid fanbase....for awhile. And even then, only some of us. But it's Heath Ledger as The Joker.
Colonel Activity by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 09:53:01 PM
is six foot tall and 190 of muscle. A total stud. The best looking guy to ever post on an AICN board. Bow before him. This Joker sucks. He also cured polio.
I SEE VENOM! by chrth	May 19th, 2007 09:53:40 PM

kris, that's just one of my edits/reconstructions by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 09:53:57 PM
not the full image
BUt seriously... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 09:54:23 PM
There are people on the superherohype thread that says Joker Strikes that have cleaned up this pic REALLY well. Looks pretty kick ass.
BOF May 11th by The Only Woj	May 19th, 2007 09:54:58 PM
http://www.mywasteofspace.com/ ibelieveinharveydenttwo.jpg "More from "Chicago Extra" and the possible look of TDK Joker: "I'll say that it resembled THE CROW in that it looked like the character did it himself, but it wasn't 'THE CROW makeup' (as I look again at pictures from THE CROW, I think part of it is that Ledger's facial structure with the white makeup resembles Brandon Lee's). All of the makeup looked like the character used stuff you could buy at a store, and did it himself. The white went about mid-neck. He had a dark blue around his eyes, giving them a sunken, slightly demented look. The red smile was a thick (1/2") arc from mid-cheekbone to mid-cheekbone. It looked like the character grabbed a red stick of clown makeup and drew on a 'smile.' His hair was a greenish brown that looked like a poorly done home dye job. Overall, I thought the makeup looked like the character was trying to draw something that resembled the masks (of which, I assume you have see pics)."
On that Website by anansie	May 19th, 2007 09:57:02 PM
There isn't a full image on the website as the code looks like it will load from someplace else after enough is uncovered - the one I posted is all there is and not one of ollirudi's edits
whatever it looks like now by The Only Woj	May 19th, 2007 09:58:14 PM
there is still mention that he gets a big gash due to something Batman does in an early altercation. so this may very well be pre-incident with Batman. I like it more than him having perfectly applied makeup ... he is, after all, a fucked up clown murdering nutjob. I can't wait to see what Ledger does with this. should be special. they better have Jack Nicholson at the TDK premiere.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... ............... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 09:59:55 PM
what?hhmmm does the image showed up completely? no? mehh i'll be back later zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzz
re BOF:who's this jackbauer24 clown? by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 10:01:01 PM
don't take credit where it's not due, man
School Bus by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 10:01:16 PM
hopefully the bus he uses for the bank heist is full of children. That would be great.
Well I'm sorry.. by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 10:01:32 PM
some of you hate America, and this Joker look. I dig it though, especially for Nolan's realistic Batman, and as reported on Batman-on-Film, the scarring apparently happens in the movie because of Batman. So this is probably one of two looks for The Joker, plus the masks.
Nicholson by Night of the Living Kris	May 19th, 2007 10:01:43 PM
Does anybody else think Jack Nicholson should have a cameo in the movie, such as being Joker's boss (before he becomes the Joker)?
nevermind... by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 10:03:13 PM
that was for the pic below mine
we want the joker and we want him now by pipergates	May 19th, 2007 10:03:19 PM
this is taking too long forbannade unger
Nicholson playing Nicholson? mmmm by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 10:03:25 PM
no thanks. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
BOF by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 10:08:14 PM
has jumped the gun. His tongue is sticking out the side of his mouth...
Possible Refference Makeup for CGI by AgainsttheStorm	May 19th, 2007 10:08:23 PM
Guys he has his fingers in the corners of his mouth as he sticks out his tongue... He's mocking us... this is Heath but it isn't the "Joker" it is probably referrence makeup for perhaps something digital Ala, Davey Jones POTC-DMC at least thats what I think.
what the fuck by Fenrisulfr	May 19th, 2007 10:10:58 PM
This is bullshit. I tried with two fucking different addresses and I didnt receive no mail. Oh yeah, but sure now I'll receive some fucking Warner spam.
If anyone is deserving of a cameo by Alcevious	May 19th, 2007 10:12:18 PM
It's Mark Hamill.
His lip is dangling a bit by VanLingoMungo	May 19th, 2007 10:12:35 PM
It's not his tongue. It's as though his lip has been severed from the corner of his mouth. I don't see any fingers. You can clearly see the swollen scar tissue on the corners of his mouth. Looks like he got cut up pretty nastily.
My hotmail didn't work either by CherryValance	May 19th, 2007 10:13:15 PM
so I yahooed. Now what happens?
It seems like it's like... by fluffybunnywhiskers	May 19th, 2007 10:14:28 PM
It seems like it's like... 3/8 done now. Not halfway yet. I think?
Going to bed... by Fenrisulfr	May 19th, 2007 10:16:26 PM
... and hopefully tomorrow I'll say "Good morning Joker !"
Chain in his mouth too by AgainsttheStorm	May 19th, 2007 10:21:57 PM
Anyone make out the chain in his mouth???
For those who don't know by Negate	May 19th, 2007 10:23:00 PM
Go to 10minutemail.co m (remove the space) and use that.
For those people with Hotmail... by mattthebat	May 19th, 2007 10:23:18 PM
go to 10minutemail.com and use the address they give you. you get your email in a matter of seconds. after ten minutes they expire the email address, so you make a new one so you can reveal a new pixel. ive done it a billion times now. single handedly took out half those dots...
Great Campaigning by getsomebs	May 19th, 2007 10:23:24 PM
I love it when films campaign like this. It reminds me of the campaigning for the first X-Men film. They had sites like this for Senator Kelly and fake news sites about mutants and sites where you could report mutants to the government (which were always your friends). I hope the online advertising for Batman continues in this direction. I'm really excited for this film and it's probably the first time DC has ever had me excited for something.
Batman does the cheek scarring... by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 10:27:03 PM
in TDK, according to BOF. In fact, as I previously said, this is likely the 2nd look of Ledger's Joker, plus those clown masks. I love this bit of marketing though. Dent '08!
messi by BadMrWonka	May 19th, 2007 10:28:44 PM
REVEALED!!! the same photo that ollirudi created an hour or 2 ago!! YES!!!!!
Nawp...that ain't what the Joker should look like by Zeke25:17	May 19th, 2007 10:29:25 PM
Looks like some blurred image from a Marilyn Manson video...come to think of it, Manson woulda made one HELL of a Joker; is it too late to cast him?
F**k WB!!!! by Foucault	May 19th, 2007 10:32:01 PM
So much trouble for this crappy image... I'm sorry for those who waited so long!!!
messi? by BadMrWonka	May 19th, 2007 10:32:59 PM
yes, I saw that when I edited out the spaces in the site name...still the same image ollirudi made an hour ago...I wasn't implying that you made it, just that, you know, you might want to read the threads and see what's been posted before you get too excited...
Wow, it's Jor-El from Superman by darthbauer	May 19th, 2007 10:33:13 PM
Is it me, or is Nolan's Joker, none other than Marlon Brando's Jor-El from Superman Movie? This IS a crossover! Yay, just what I was hoping for. In an evil twist of fate, Jor-El survives the planet Krypton's explosion, and travels through space for dozens of years only to go crazy and end up on earth as Batman's arch nemesis the Joker. Which puts Supes in a pretty tricky spot, because Superman of course starts out helping the Dark Knight only to realize as they are fighting the evil Joker that it's none other than dear old CGI resurrected daddy....oops.
Shouldn't the Joker look "gleefully crazy"? by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 10:35:52 PM
Instead of "Norwegian-Viking-Black-Metal fan" crazy? Just a thought...
that's NOT the actual full image on BOF by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 10:36:42 PM
...just so you know. it's just a reconstruction.
Instead of picking... by Pagliacci	May 19th, 2007 10:38:17 PM
someone that actually already resembled The Joker in appearance or demeanor like Marilyn Manson or Crispin Glover, Warner Bros and Chris Nolan decided to with an ACTOR, in this, a motion picture; this technique is often used for movies/films. In this case, the ACTOR is Heath Ledger. Move on.
bland by rainbowtrout1265	May 19th, 2007 10:43:55 PM
Ledger is a pretty bland actor, so he's not exactly the best choice for "crazy."
He does look a lot like brando in that pic. by ollirudi	May 19th, 2007 10:48:11 PM
heh. btw, if you zoom in on the flash pic now, he does appear to be sticking his tounge out
How many more guys need to complete the pic???? by havehope	May 19th, 2007 10:49:47 PM
HOW MANY MORE?????
QUALITY TIP TO REVEAL IT FASTER!!! by havehope	May 19th, 2007 10:52:02 PM
First, you should use your googlemail account if you have one. Once you do the first email thing. Simply add +1 when you do it the second time. Then +2,+3 and so on.... For example; bobby+1@gmail.com LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
Are we the only people doing this? by CherryValance	May 19th, 2007 10:54:29 PM
It seems like it should have been done by now. Aren't there rabid fans on other sites? Or are we the fans on the other sites?
actually Ledger is capable of crazy by kafka07	May 19th, 2007 10:58:22 PM
You just haven't seen the right movies where he displays this. Check out Candy. But anyway, what's wrong with the Joker's cheeks? He'd better not pick at that.
There are fans on other sites by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 10:58:23 PM
The SHHHH! Boards have been running wild; one guy claimed to have been at since 10 am.
Some may not have Googlemail by havehope	May 19th, 2007 10:58:45 PM
It's all about googlemail. It works quickest with googlemail. Some cats probly dont got googlemail so they haven't received the stuff yet.
The Joker's likes and dislikes... by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 11:01:06 PM
I really hope this Joker shares Krusty's affinity for hookers, booze, and gambling. That would rule: A Joker that bets against The Harlem Globetrotters because he thinks the Generals are due.
he's got that pan's labyrinth smile by pipergates	May 19th, 2007 11:05:47 PM
stole that from del Toro i just knew that would pop up again.
Michael Meyers? by lost.rules	May 19th, 2007 11:07:58 PM
Is that who that's supposed to be?
Have you seen this wizard? by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 11:08:06 PM
so joker stop playing around... SHOW YOURSELF!!!!!!!
Reply to E-mail by jarjarmessiah	May 19th, 2007 11:09:10 PM
The Joker senr me a reply to when i ask for more coordinates.
He has his fingers in his mouth by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 11:09:30 PM
The skin on his cheek is ridged like he's pulling back the corners of his mouth. Look closely....
Text of e-mail reply by jarjarmessiah	May 19th, 2007 11:11:39 PM
People always ask me about my charming boyish smile. Jessica used to love it. She was the loneliest girl in high school, and my first big kiss...
I grant you, Ledger can act, but... by Zeke25:17	May 19th, 2007 11:15:36 PM
I don't think it would have been such a terrible thing to attempt to get the Joker's "look" right along with getting someone who can say the lines properly. Brad Pitt can act, too. So can Hugh Jackman, Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, etc. But I wouldn't have picked ANY of em for the Joker (to be honest, as much as I got a kick out of Nicholson's portrayal, I didn't particularly see HIM as the Clown Prince of Crime either). Christian Bale not only is a fine actor; he has the right LOOK for both Bruce Wayne and a guy just nutty enough to want to dress up as a bat. Ledger, to me, just does not have it. To date, I'd say the best film portrayal of the Joker was Andrew Koenig's in the Batman short film Dead End: that IS the dude from The Killing Joke. Psychotic, colorful, gleefully and violently crazy. Nolan got it absolutely right with his portrayal of the Dark Knight: let's hope he also does appropriate justice to the best villain in the entire Batman camp. (And here's another Actor who coulda done wonderfully: Robert Joy, whose most recent work was as one of the mutants with the most screen time in the Hills Have Eyes remake. That guy had crazy nailed down as far back as Milos Forman's Ragtime.)
looks like "MARVEL" by lynxpro	May 19th, 2007 11:15:49 PM
When the screen shifts to being pixelated and you can somewhat see The Joker's face, it distorts the word "HARVEY" so much that it looks like the Marvel logo that plays before the opening of every Marvel character film adaptation. Probably not what Warner Bros. Pictures intended to do...promote Marvel instead of their own DC.
I'm not giving WB my e-mail by Larry of Arabia	May 19th, 2007 11:20:22 PM
sorry, dudes
FMVorenkamp: by supermarch	May 19th, 2007 11:24:26 PM
We solved that ages ago. See above.
ONE SHEEP, TWO SHEEPS , THREE SHEEPS ... by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 11:27:16 PM
FOUR JOKERS, FIVE JOKERS, SIX JOKERS, ....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
people that say it's the "Pan's Labrynth Look" by tickle_this	May 19th, 2007 11:32:27 PM
Actually, it's from Ichi The Killer http://www.subwaycinema.com/fr ames/archives/nyaff03/images/m ovies/ichi1.gif
Who Cares What he looks like? by lost.rules	May 19th, 2007 11:32:29 PM
All I care about is if its a good movie. Heath Ledger might not have the perfect look for the part, but as long as he gets the acting part of the job done then I don't care. Nolan Rocks!
an image by posbasso	May 19th, 2007 11:34:01 PM
why do we go so crazy over an image?
His looks don't matter? by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 11:35:05 PM
Why don't they just trot out Heath Ledger the way he looked in "10 Things I Hate About You."? Looks don't matter? Go fuck a cat.
Colonel Dickface by lost.rules	May 19th, 2007 11:42:08 PM
I didn't say they don't matter. I'm saying that Heath Ledger is close enough to looking like the Joker. Pretty damn close I'd say. You're probably one of those jackasses that wanted psycho loony Clover to play the part. Go Fuck yourself.
Naw, I don't like it. by rev_skarekroe	May 19th, 2007 11:43:48 PM
Maybe it'll look better in the film.
I think the look is good. by St. Cyr	May 19th, 2007 11:47:56 PM
The joker, from what we've seen thus far, has a look that's CLOSE to his in the comic books/previous incarnations, but retains the more realistic look that Bat Begins seemed to favor. I mean, if a person were in real life to be nuts enough to actually commit some of the crimes that Joker is supposed to have, one would assume that he's pretty depraved. Combine that with the idea that, as in the original Batman, Joker is scarred from some previous accident, I think this look reflects both his desperate craziness and his scarring. I think the look will probably be pretty good when all's said and done. And remember, if Ledger may not resemble what we already consider the Joker to look like, then perhaps Nolan simply WANTS us to see this joker without necessarily connecting him to his past in other mediums. Just a thought.
lost.rules by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 11:50:01 PM
First off: go fuck yourself, because no one else will. Second: You said that you didn't care. Most people that I know usually don't care about things that don't affect them, i.e., things that don't matter. Did you say that you didn't care? Sure you did, you little shithead. Go wank off while dreaming of Jerry Falwell's fresh corpse, you ass-plundering cock-smoker.
Who cares? by Magnum Opus	May 19th, 2007 11:51:10 PM
Have faith in Nolan, he won't fuck it up.
Good Point, St.cyr by lost.rules	May 19th, 2007 11:52:11 PM
Really. If I wanted the same old same old, I would just pop in Tim Burton's Batman into my DVD player. It's nice to see Nolan doing something different.
kulik by lynxpro	May 19th, 2007 11:53:13 PM
Funny you should mention dubbing Mark Hamill's voice. I said that ages ago, but with Christopher Eccleston playing the role and then dubbing in Hamill's voice once "The Joker" became the dominant personality. That would have made an Ultimate Joker for the cinema screen but the Warner execs apparently have no vision.
Colonel Dickface by lost.rules	May 19th, 2007 11:55:02 PM
If you're thinking of Jerry Falwell's rotting corpse in your sexual fantasies, well, I think you help dude. Really, it's not too late.
Crispin "Creepy" Glover by ludmir88	May 19th, 2007 11:55:54 PM
did you see his film What is it? are you crazy!!!!!??? he would take the joker character too far like... really killing the dark night on set!!!!!!!!!
You are one by Colonel Activity	May 19th, 2007 11:57:41 PM
Ah, great come back: "Seems you think about xxxxx too much, you need help," is the oldest stand-by for the tiny cretins of the internet. Come up with something original...and in that vein, how much help does Bret Easton Ellis need then? Dumb fuck.
Colonel Dickface! by lost.rules	May 19th, 2007 11:58:36 PM
Could this be the ultimate Batman Villian? Just think about. He could annoy Batman to death with all his whinning and bitching all the time. Batman doesn't stand a chance.
I BELIEVE IN JAR-JAR BINKS by uss cygnus	May 19th, 2007 11:59:10 PM
Sucking Ass.
Colonel Dickface LOVES Spiderman 3! by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:01:56 AM
He says Batman Begins is a "silly" movie that didn't build on the previous films like Batman & Robin. Right on, Dickface!
I've used four different email addresses... by film_fanatic_in_the_original_bla ck_and_white	May 20th, 2007 12:06:03 AM
And only two got through. Also, I used them more than once. I waited a while and used them again, so don't give up people.
Lost.rules by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:07:57 AM
Did you finish your autobody repair course at the local CC yet? You're not very creative, my little butt-pee slurping ignoramus. Grab your Hardy Boys book, curl up in your My Little Pony blankey and sink into the oblivion that suits you and your void of talent and imagination.
Okay now it's looking like the Phantom by CherryValance	May 20th, 2007 12:08:58 AM
of the Opera. WTF?
Enhance... Enhance... Enhance... by br1947	May 20th, 2007 12:09:25 AM
http://i18.tinypic.com/661t3jd .jpg Take the original pic, layer the pixeled on over, add a difference filter... bingo, Joker thus far... can't wait to see the full res version
Where is Harry and his 10 000 e-mail acounts? by ludmir88	May 20th, 2007 12:09:30 AM
where are you? you have to finish that image!!!!!!!!!!
Colonel Dickface LOVES My Little Pony! by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:09:56 AM
and Hardy Boys.......nuff said.
Glenn Danzig by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:11:29 AM
He looks like a Misfits fan circa 1983. It still looks to that he's got his fingers pulling at the sides of his mouth...
Colonel Activity by Mister Fame	May 20th, 2007 12:12:01 AM
I raped you and had your daughter.
oh yea, take out the space in that link.... by br1947	May 20th, 2007 12:12:14 AM
:-)
Reference Pee Wee's Big Adventure by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:13:58 AM
for the inspiration for lost.rules comebacks. Name the novel Marcel Proust is famous for writing lost.rules. Hurry up, you cockless ass-pirate.
Of course, one should expect someone like Colonel.... by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:16:19 AM
DICKFACE to be skeptical of a new Batman movie. I mean, hey, if you or I should be dissappointed by it, we'll just say,"Oh, well. Wasted eight bucks on a stupid movie." But if someone like Dickface did that....well...that's a lot of money to someone like him. Sympathize people, if you can.
Proust? You're quoting little Miss Sunshine? by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:18:50 AM
Christ, you're gay.
lost.rules by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:21:37 AM
I promise you that I am A) more successful B) better looking C) more intelligent D) liked more by more people and E) not skeptical about this movie, but instead concerned that they're going to make Heath look too "Crow"-like. The look of the Joker might distracted me, but not as much as Katie Holmes "lost.rules" talent level acting or the fact that she talks out of the side of her mouth for the whole movie. Capice?
Are you guys seriously going by snafu069	May 20th, 2007 12:22:47 AM
Are you guys seriously going to keep this up all night? Go out. Have a beer. Stop the adolescent bickering.
Colonel Dickface, you're so smart. by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:23:10 AM
I won't even bother getting into a intellectual debate with you. What chance would I have against someone who uses phrases such as, "butt-pee slurping ignoramus"? No chance at all, my friend.
another retouch by ollirudi	May 20th, 2007 12:25:20 AM
i did a quick enchancement based on the pic br1947 posted...(remove the spaces in the address) http://i20.photobucket.com/alb ums/b210/ollirudi/retouch7.jpg
12:30 am CST... by The 76th Cave	May 20th, 2007 12:25:26 AM
...and the scarring on the cheeks looks much worse (i.e. better) than the BOF pic. Looks more defined and much more of a "smile"...in fact it looks like a smile even though Ledger ain't...cool.
Little Miss Sunshine? by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:25:55 AM
Never seen it. Okay, how about you name seven Dostoeveky novels for me, a few Baroque composers, and the theme of "White Noise" by Don DeLillio. Hurry, my gay little ass fucking piece of shit who has never been laid and who was once denied by a hooker...
lost.rules by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:28:59 AM
still thinks that Iraq was behind September 11. And he has the first season of "Joey" on DVD.
Intelligence... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:30:17 AM
and Colonel Dickface is just oh-so-clever. How have you not killed yourself yet? Do it; it would be a good move for you.
Fire ledger and Hire Crispin Glover! by BatPsycho	May 20th, 2007 12:33:34 AM
You all know he was born for this part. Why couldn't Nolan see that for himself?
Calm down, Colonel Dickface. by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:33:36 AM
It's alright. Just breath. Find your pills, and take a couple. It'll be O.K.. It's not fair to the other Talkbackers if we hog it all up with your bitching and whinning, and my superior comebacks.
Fuck you all (are you reading Colonel in Retirement) by ludmir88	May 20th, 2007 12:35:02 AM
I'm out now. I have a life Warner Brothers!!!!!! Boston Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lost.rules by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:38:12 AM
Seriously, go slit your wrists. You have nothing to offer anyone. You're going to die alone.
No, by ollirudi	May 20th, 2007 12:38:38 AM
batman on film has one of the earlier digitally reconstructed versions of the image...
Further pic enhacement by br1947	May 20th, 2007 12:39:01 AM
http://i17.tinypic.com/4yoxx0x .jpg remove the spaces, this should be pretty close to what is in the image (remove the spaces in the url)
Guys remember this picture from a few years ago? by ajtk210	May 20th, 2007 12:41:26 AM
http://www.sequart.com/members /graphics/18/bermejo_joker1.jp g Seems like he was influenced by this picture. Granted not a total rip off but influenced.
good job br1947! by ollirudi	May 20th, 2007 12:41:55 AM
that's pretty clear!
Good fan-made poster by mrwho	May 20th, 2007 12:43:44 AM
Kinda small, but still cool. Wish this was more of what they were doing, as far as the look is concerned, but i'll wait for a trailer before making judgements about Nolan's Joker. http://www.themovieblog.com/ar chives/Heath-Joker.jpg
Remember by Negate	May 20th, 2007 12:44:47 AM
that Tobey Maguire was thought to be a bad choice for Spider-Man before the first film came out. Now, try picturing someone else wearing the webs.
br1947 by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 12:45:38 AM
That is a great job! Still don't care for the look, though. He looks like he'd hang out at S&M clubs or something.
nice work br1947 by mrwho	May 20th, 2007 12:45:39 AM
looks pretty good
That Harvey Dent website... by ScarranHalfBreed	May 20th, 2007 12:47:25 AM
...isn't very exciting is it?
I like this joker... by Reznik	May 20th, 2007 12:48:12 AM
I'm sure some of you may have seen this but I thought I'd share it anyways. http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=4095303199635469669& q=PATIENT+J&hl=en if you notice any gaps in the URL close them up before trying to enter.
Well, done. br1947 by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:48:33 AM
Psyched to see him in action.
trying again... by Reznik	May 20th, 2007 12:49:49 AM
http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=4095303199635469669& q=PATIENT+J&hl=en
The scarring just looks so heavy... by br1947	May 20th, 2007 12:50:26 AM
I like the idea of him being dark & twisted, but it almost looks more like a cancerous growth than scarring, looks like it comes out about a half inch. Guess we'll just have to wait for the whole image to clear up sometime tomorrow, I'm out of ideas for further enhancement. Curious to see how close I got.
I gotta admit. by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:52:31 AM
that scarring is pretty heavy. Am I watching Batman, or a new Excorcist film?
better yet... by Reznik	May 20th, 2007 12:53:33 AM
if the url does not work just go to Google and search for Patient J in the video section... its worth a watch. its about 30+ mins long. Its a good comic version joker brought to life.
Think his skin will actually be white? by ajtk210	May 20th, 2007 01:01:42 AM
Or do you think he'll just paint his face like that to cover the scarring?
This Joker is insane...the way it should be! by Power_Girl	May 20th, 2007 01:04:38 AM
INSANE
Emos and Goths are going to love this film!!!! by Power_Girl	May 20th, 2007 01:06:42 AM
It's the new Crow and Jack Skelington...hurry up and print some badges dammn it...the emos need their Joker badges!
my name is Patient J, and I stab people by drave117	May 20th, 2007 01:09:19 AM
That Patient J movie is stunningly awful in terms of writing and acting, but the makeup is freaking fantastic. It looks dead-on just like the Alex Ross paintings of Joker.
Please no.... don't even mention that... by br1947	May 20th, 2007 01:09:32 AM
Emo-Spiderman was far, far too much, killed the series as far as I am concerned. Joker is evil... Joker is evil...
NOOOO! Not the scarred mouth! by ZeroCorpse	May 20th, 2007 01:11:32 AM
They're just remaking the version of the Joker from the 1989 movie!!! THE JOKER DOES NOT HAVE A SCARRED FACE TO MAKE HIS GRIN! He just has a big mouth, dammit. No scars. No cuts! Dammit. Dammit. Dammit. I HATE the scars.
This Joker wouldn't listen to Emo... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 01:13:48 AM
He looks like he would be into, like I said before, Norwegian-Viking-black-metal.. .maybe early Slayer. But he doesn't look emo. Emo people look like the painter brother from Wedding Crashers.
Seriously... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 01:18:53 AM
this guy doesn't look like he's capable of joking about anything.
Joker masturbates with a cross! His head spins backward by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 01:18:57 AM
and he says, "Look what she did. You're cunting, daughter." to Batman. Pretty Fucked Up!
It's just plain ugly by CherryValance	May 20th, 2007 01:18:59 AM
Being all scarred might make sense but no one wants to look at ugly. And you can't help but think of emo kids and their 'woe is me' crap. I really don't know. If he painted lipstick on Harvey Dent where is his? After all that, I'm not impressed. Stallone hands us magnificence on a platter and WB makes us work for hours for poop on a stick. I'd hate to think of what they're gonna do to Aaron's face.
zerocorpse by BadMrWonka	May 20th, 2007 01:20:37 AM
way to take the whining back WAY old school...most people are still whining about Ledger as joker...as someone who has never read a comic book in his life, I salute your nerdy sense of duty! (makes salute with Spock finger-separation)
In my opinion, he looks too freakish... by Chief Redcock	May 20th, 2007 01:25:04 AM
...and not enough like a clown. I realize this might be closer to what a person scarred by toxic waste might look like, but I don't care. He needs to look like the freakin JOKER... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Oh well, too late to complain now.
Emo Joker by SamBlackChvrch21	May 20th, 2007 01:25:12 AM
When I was a young boy, My father took me into gotham city To see a broadway band. He said, "Son when you grow up, you will dress like a bat-man and be the saviour of the the damned" He said "Will you defeat them, your demons,the joker and the plans that he has made?" Because one day I leave you, A phantom to lead you in the summer, To join the black parade."
has anyone calculated how many pixels... by ckone	May 20th, 2007 01:31:25 AM
this thing is? Cause, if in a day and a half, this one image generates how ever many email addys sent to WB, that is a HUGE picture of the online fan base.. as well as how dedicated it is. Sure you can't count how ever many people did multiples..but I stopped after four..I would say it is pretty impressive if this thing gets cleared in a day. I'd put a lot more stock in the valididty of the internet after that.
This is what the Joker is like (my favorite quote) by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 01:32:41 AM
"And he didn't die all at once. It was hours before the screaming stopped. I almost didn't get to sleep that night. That was the last time I'd used crushed glass..."
I do have to say by Jak0lantern01	May 20th, 2007 01:32:56 AM
Some of the best internet marketing yet, a lot of fun. Especially after a pint of JD, three shots of tequila, something that included goldschlager and jaemeister(???spellng?) and realizing that your own band is just as decent if not better than the one you just paid to see. Happy Saturday night, it's not over yet. :)
I called it by Alcevious	May 20th, 2007 01:33:55 AM
Praise me.
Jokers Wild by Reznik	May 20th, 2007 01:43:07 AM
looks like he caught a batarang with the left side of his face (right side as viewed). His face looks like a road map of pain... I mean I like the idea... but I just wonder how funny he'll be when he looks like a plastic surgery gone wrong candidate. Only time will tell I suppose... we have about a year or so. If this is a real pic... It might be to guage fan reaction over the look. It might even be revised. Either way I'm looking forward to the movie and I hope its as good as the first if not better.
coolest marketing idea ever by warp11	May 20th, 2007 01:44:47 AM
Who came up with this?
:) by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 01:46:20 AM
Hahahahahhahahahhahahahah..... ..HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHH AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAH HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA HAHHAHAHA!
This is plain great by Freakemovie	May 20th, 2007 01:49:23 AM
the power of viral marketing - making you feel like you received a personal e-mail from the Joker himself. This is a lot of fun, and pretty smart, especially with all the anticipation and false-starts to see his face.
A final pic by br1947	May 20th, 2007 01:51:15 AM
http://i17.tinypic.com/4u1ivb8 .jpg (remove spaces... blah blah...) Holy shit it's 2am... night all!
Comic book movies 2008 > 2007? by Boondock Devil	May 20th, 2007 01:57:02 AM
Starting to look that way. Yeah, it's early but 300 has been the only satisfying comic book movie I've seen this year. I think I remember seeing Ghost Rider... just nothing memorable about that movie at all. I didn't hate Spider-Man 3 as much as a lot of people around here did but there's no way I thought it was better than 2 and maybe even the first one. Unless FF2 REALLY shocks me and ends up being a good fun movie I don't think they can hold a candle to next years films. I'm getting more and more psyched with each new tidbit I see about The Dark Knight. Iron Man looks like it's in good hands. I really want to like the Incredible Hulk. Cast looks good so far but I'm about as apprehensive about this movie as I am about FF2. Not sure if Supermax is supposed to be out next year or not but that also could make for a fun, and thankfully, original take on the superhero genre. Of course I should mention that I kind of figured that the comic movies of 2007 would be better than 2006...
And the biggest joke is... by Sledge Hammer	May 20th, 2007 01:59:48 AM
...it's not even his face.
Looks so good...The best Joker ever!!!! by Power_Girl	May 20th, 2007 02:02:13 AM
I can see Heath giggling and being devilish in that makeup...These new batman films are about trying to make Batmans world as real as possible so this Joker is great. We had our comicish Joker in Burtons first Bat film and now it's time to get real.
mark hamill should have played the joker by funnyhat	May 20th, 2007 02:02:45 AM
as much as i want to love this movie, because the first one was one of my favorite comic book movies ever... i cant imagine this working out. the joker is a maniac, not the crow.
Anyone else think this is fake? by rollnstns	May 20th, 2007 02:04:04 AM
In the original Harvy Dent page, Warner Bros. is listed in the address line. In this other page, no WB mention. I have to believe that they would want their name on this, especially if it is the "first" glimpse of the Joker. Otherwise anyone can grab this image and do as they please.
I tried too by lionbiu	May 20th, 2007 02:07:19 AM
last night and did not get a email. I want a R rated Batman movie....please make this be R, pretty please.
That "Whiteface" guy... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:08:17 AM
from Squadron Supreme is better than the Joker. Scary.
Whiteface.... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:10:03 AM
I meant Supreme Power.
Guy,,, by Darth Tubs	May 20th, 2007 02:19:52 AM
I'm not really seeing anything yet, all I see is some basic outline shit, but its also kinda late and I'm kinda sick. But yeah, I'm digging the shit out of how their pushing this flick.
Be sure to check your junk email by Jinxo	May 20th, 2007 02:20:26 AM
My protection software routed the reponse email from this site to a junkmail folder and didn't even play my "you've got mail" alert sound.
Nolan=Mamet....except by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 02:20:44 AM
not as good. Anyone with me on this? Maybe Nolan is like a weird bastardization of DePalma and Mamet. That makes sense. I can't stop watching his movies. You Rock, Nolan!
Wow by Thegipperlives	May 20th, 2007 02:29:42 AM
This is actually really cool. I cannot wait to see his full face...it will take forever though, glad to do my part ha.
Neat. by AnchorpersonOnTV	May 20th, 2007 02:29:44 AM
Looks like an image for teaser posters, what with the bat symbol and all. Don't know if that neat little gimmick is worth losing out on seeing him grin and have green hair... But still. I guess saving that is a better idea.
Johnny Depp by CHRIS GRAVES	May 20th, 2007 02:32:40 AM
I still wish Johnny Depp had been cast as the Joker. Or even Crispin Glover. But the person that would've made it really special and crossed over from the Tim Burton Batman films, was Michael Keaton! Just think about it. Beetlejuice was kind of a Joker-esque character.
Paitent J, great indie stuff,. Nolans Joker? Eh. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	May 20th, 2007 02:34:01 AM
1st. Patient J has been online for awhile. Great stuff. Looks like they took the story straight from The Killing Joke which should be the blue print Nolan follows for the next Batman film if we are getting it with the Joker. As far as Ledger. I am not sold. I like Ledger as an actor, I just can't see him as "The" Joker. I think the whole Crispin Glover idea was a great one and was also my 1st choice as was many of yours here on the TB's. I want to be excited about the next installment of Batman from Nolan because the 1st one was top quality and while I am sure The Dark Knight will be as well it still does not mean that I will enjoy the interpretation of how the Joker is portrayed. His even more iconic in some ways then Batman himself. You can't really stray to far from the source of what makes him him is what I mean. It's really rooted down pretty solid and the last thing I want to see is Ledger playing him quietly if you catch my drift. Looking at that picture does not excite me. It worries me. Are we going to get a Joker who is TOO serious and does not have that maniac quality that makes him over the top? I am not talking about the things he does I am talking about the way he acts. He's truly insane int he comic books. Very over the top. Not subdued. Yes he can be serious too. We saw that in The Killing Joke. And BTW for those reading this rant if you have never read The Killing Joke please go buy it. It is by far the best introduction to the Joker you will ever read. Hands down a true classic that is so good it STILL gets reprinted to this day and is available at most comic book shops.
Colonel Activity and lost.rules by Itblowstherobot	May 20th, 2007 02:34:42 AM
You two are like children slap-fighting, just stop. I'd argue that Joker would listen to some fucked up experimental shit (think of John Lennon and Yoko Ono type stuff). Also, I'd like to point out that I mentioned the Bremejo drawing a while ago and was chastised for it. Sweet vindictation!
It's Fake, look at domain registration info... by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 02:41:22 AM
for Ibelieveinhaverydent.com for here: http://who.godaddy.com/whoisch eck.aspx? Domain=IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENT. COM (remove spaces) And for the one with the fake pic go here. http://who.godaddy.com/whoisch eck.aspx? Domain=IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENTTOO . COM(remove spaces) The company who has created the pixelation is a well known dead domain forwarder... it's fake... So, sorry for all of you who wasted your time...
tallboy by BadMrWonka	May 20th, 2007 02:42:48 AM
what are you talking about? your links are just to defaced Dent posters we've seen before...
Love that Joker!!! by Redfive!	May 20th, 2007 02:44:57 AM
It looks like Nolans going for a real psychopath for the joker,a real crazy would defantly smear red paint on his lips and all on his face,I think Ledgers gonna blow this role out of the water and probally upstage Christian Bale,But Bales still gonna rule this film.
ArasinGM by fluffybunnywhiskers	May 20th, 2007 02:47:14 AM
those sites didn't work for me when i put the spaces back in, but whatever. i doubt some "dead domain forwarder" would have put so much effort into this and been such a good coder to avoid saving and stuff... making the game and making it remove a pixel at a time would surely take a load of work. also, i heard that one was registered BEFORE the first, regular dent one. which would mean its not just someone who saw the opportunity and went with it... they had to have known about the site before its existence....
FluffyBunnyWhiskers by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 02:53:47 AM
the first site was registered on may 11th, the pixelation is registerd on may 14th, i believe that was right after the Dent site went up. and FYI the pixelation game is easy, it's called an interactive flash dissolve, and all you have to do is give it a command to remove a specific piece of info... not that hard. couple hours worth of programming, for about an estimated 2.7 million email addresses... Warner owns the domain for the dent site, the pixelation site is registered to a company in scottsdale arizona. which is a KNOWN dead domain forwarding company.
I don't care if it's fake or not... by film_fanatic_in_the_original_bla ck_and_white	May 20th, 2007 03:06:47 AM
It's pretty damned cool.
Aaron Eckhart by Mr Gorilla	May 20th, 2007 03:14:27 AM
THe guy's a great actor, and he's had bad luck with the badly performing run of Paycheck, The Core, The Wicker Man etc.... Duds all. Here's to him finally getting recognition for being, er, good.
Ledger is the joker,Crispin is not.-shut it,have faith by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 03:15:01 AM
Nolan must be so tired of listening to those whiners if he bothers cheking these sites. Nolan, unlike Raimi, made an exellent change in a villains appearance in his first movie. Scarecrow was cool, scary& and realistic, and totally worked in the gritty setting of the film. Dafoe was great but his goblin-suit was just ridiculous. And his son's suit is worse. Nolan nailed it first time, mostly, and he is nailing it again. Hopefully having gained the trust of the suits they wont interfere too much and this movie will be a f'n piece of art, like the Prestige. Just give Bowie another role ok?
Bowie is Dents opposition and gets two small cameos. by Power_Girl	May 20th, 2007 03:30:35 AM
No, I just made that up...but it would be cool.
hmmmmmm by mattthebat	May 20th, 2007 03:41:25 AM
it's quiet.....too quiet....
pixel people by drave117	May 20th, 2007 03:43:49 AM
I put the count at around 34080 total unique codes to uncover the whole picture.
which begs the question by drave117	May 20th, 2007 03:47:22 AM
Where the hell did ArasinGM get 2.7 million email addresses?
There's already an official Joker pic on Batman-On-Film by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx	May 20th, 2007 03:48:28 AM
you retards. go look! not the sharpest picture, but great enouggh for me.
UH OH! by Rocco the dog	May 20th, 2007 03:49:53 AM
I have a sinking feeling that "the Ledge" is going to be channeling Val Kilmer to get a handle on his "really creepy guy" Joker. He'll trip around like Jim Morrison and shuffle accents like The Saint. Oh please God, let me be wrong just this once.
Doesn't look like Ledger by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 03:51:39 AM
http://tinypic.com/4u1ivb.jpg
good morning by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:54:17 AM
wow, looks pretty fucked up (in a fucked up way)! http://www.avi-film.com/joker1 3.jpg
Colonel Activity by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:56:06 AM
link ain't workin. and of course it looks like Ledger
CRIES OF THE BEWILDERING HEARTS! by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 03:58:11 AM
Movie is not out yet! Let's just reserve judgemnet till then. I will not post again, in a Batman forum, untill that day.
Megan Fox's chest sooooooooooo hot!!!!!!!!!! by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 04:09:42 AM
So says Colonel DICKFACE! Sorry....couldn't resist. I love you, Colonel Dickface.
If it IS fake then WB should find the people who did it by BenBraddock	May 20th, 2007 04:15:26 AM
AND HIRE THEM! Great way to scam 4 million e-mail addreses btw
This should be The Joker's Theme Song... by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx	May 20th, 2007 04:18:42 AM
if they decide to go the gay Prince route, that could totally be averted with a badass tune like this. Imagine Joker creeping up behind you in a lonely-ass, dark apartment with a song like that. It's a Clockwork Orange sample anyway... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KVfR2YKCt0M
That's rad. by CoursinLarry	May 20th, 2007 04:36:29 AM
That is awesome. I'm probably gonna have nightmares about the mangled mouth of the Joker. I can't wait for this movie.
You'd think the Joker would do more.... by LHombreSiniestro	May 20th, 2007 04:42:16 AM
to graffito the website. Hmmmmm, seems kinda lazy. Cool idea though.
I'm undecided about the smile via scar by chrth	May 20th, 2007 04:51:01 AM
I can see why you'd do it: forces the Joker to have a smile even when the actor isn't smiling ... but at the same time, it looks like it might be too distracting. I'll need to see it in a trailer before I can judge properly.
BOO! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 04:58:45 AM
I bet when the last pixel is revealed, the Joker is gonna say "boo!" and laugh insanely... that would elevate the whole thing from cool to mind-blowing
Better look by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 04:59:42 AM
http://tinypic.com/4u1ivb8.jpg And I'm the best looking man alive.
the talkback has died!!! by dundundles	May 20th, 2007 05:00:44 AM
Beginning CPR...
That link should work.... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:09:03 AM
pic is pretty clear
Colonel Activity by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 05:13:06 AM
that's not bad at all, how did you do it? except for the red spots on his forehead, I'd say that's exactly what we're gonna see in a few hours. here's the current status without photoshopping: http://www.avi-film.com/joker1 5.jpg
It's actaully... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:17:27 AM
from an older post from this bp1947 guy. I just remembered it because I thought it was good. I figured I'd keep it alive for other fans because it was so well done. I am, in actuality, very computer illerate...but I am amazingly handsome, so it evens out.
i see by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 05:19:36 AM
lol
Rumor by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:20:57 AM
I heard the Joker gets the gash on his face when he's trying to escape on a zipline and Bats cuts said line with a bat-a-rang; it then whips back and catches him across the face.
Hmm, Tyler Durden in drag by Sepulchrave	May 20th, 2007 05:24:59 AM
Maybe it'll work.
full image by Evil Hobbit	May 20th, 2007 05:39:03 AM
http://i17.tinypic.com/4u1ivb8 %20.jpg
and it's up on main page by Evil Hobbit	May 20th, 2007 05:44:52 AM
that was a weird post and refresh incident. Like I posted the image straight to the main page :)
Better Choice to play the Joker... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:45:30 AM
would have been Mario Lopez. That combination of Latino Jheri-curl and pleated acid-washed jeans would be lethal on the big screen.
that's the joker? by speed	May 20th, 2007 05:48:17 AM
looks like he belongs in a NIN film clip. not saying it's bad, but it kind of doesn't work with that reveal from harvey dent.
aw man Quint by bowtiehoon	May 20th, 2007 05:50:23 AM
bad form mate! LOL...You spoilt everyone's fun...i was curious to see how it was gonna take for the pic to come up...i've got a baby with a lollipop here, you wanna take it from him too...keke
but i guess... by bowtiehoon	May 20th, 2007 05:51:43 AM
if it wasn't you guys, some other site would have posted the pic up...
I want this Heath to speak Aussie-like by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:53:27 AM
in this movie: "Oi! G'Day Bats! You caught me in the middle of worky, you did! Jumbuck scally-wag! Kangaroo!"
That... is fucking nightmare inducing. by Boondock Devil	May 20th, 2007 06:00:13 AM
How'd you like to wake up in the middle of the night to see that face hovering over you? He does give off a whole Buffalo Bill/Pennywise feeling that's very unsettling. Very cool.
What a surprise, Quint ruins the fun by DigitalDong	May 20th, 2007 06:00:49 AM
I'd expect nothing less from a Halo fan.
not the final picture, joker! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 06:07:54 AM
the red spots on his forehead give it away, because they're exactly where the missing pixels were a few hours ago... it's a photoshop-polished-up version
THIS JOKER IS PERFECT! by Frye777	May 20th, 2007 06:14:56 AM
...and way better than the fake one. Scary and sick. That's what we need after the Nicholson prankster.
It's Arnie as Mr. Freeze by Det. John Kimble	May 20th, 2007 06:15:29 AM
notbs ftw!
I like it by Bobo_Vision	May 20th, 2007 06:20:11 AM
I like that he looks like a disfigured man, whose scar kinda looks like a smile. Its more realistic than the previous jokers where their mutation or scar somehow formed into a perfectly shaped grin.
I agree: PERFECT! by Pagliacci	May 20th, 2007 06:22:45 AM
Different enough, that (hopefully) comparisons to Nicholson will be kept to a minimum. I loved Jack's Joker. I have a feeling I'll love this one as well. Ledger's Joker doesn't look like he'll be a big Prince fan though.
Are they using Alan Moore's "Killing Joke"? by Boondock Devil	May 20th, 2007 06:26:05 AM
Only reason I bring it up is because of the email titled "tragicpast" after logging onto the dent site. I'm personally pulling for this movie to be as vague as possible about where the Joker came from.
re: Prince fan by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 06:28:48 AM
No, this Joker looks more along the lines of a Cannibal Corpse fan who also enjoys watching "Faces of Death" movies; I was hoping for a Joker who looked like he liked listening to Interpol but acted as if he watched "American Psycho" and "Fear and Loathing".
I want to know.... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 06:30:38 AM
is his skin that white? Or does he just paint his skin, like a buttfuck.
It kind of looks like Sylar got to him... by Boondock Devil	May 20th, 2007 06:32:59 AM
Just the way the picture's cropped and the red specks just underneath it.
And Jack... Don't forget, your lucky deck. by dundundles	May 20th, 2007 06:38:40 AM
They need to ressurect Jack Palance to reprise his role of Carl Grissom. And I love the idea of having Nicholson play a cameo, wether it be of relation or first victim. A great way of passing the torch.
it's a good thing... by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 06:39:52 AM
they didn't use actual pixels for this, but 3x3 pixels :-D
have you noticed? by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 06:57:36 AM
there's another image appearing through the photo of the Joker... looks like a man... is it Aaron Eckhart?? and what does it say there at the bottom? "I believe in something-something Dent"... cool!
Too soon... by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 07:08:59 AM
TDK has now been officially ruined by this mystery-blasting pic. You'd think they would've held off longer and shown the new batsuit instead.
Maaan this is ... by Bruce Leroy	May 20th, 2007 07:12:54 AM
FUCKED UP! I do mean Pogo the clown fucked up. A psycho that dresses up as a clown. I think (i hope) this joker is going to be one messed up individual, so disturbed even that it ceases to be funny and he'll be (guess what) scary.
Interesting.. by Bad_Lieutenant121	May 20th, 2007 07:20:26 AM
I have full faith in Nolan and think that Ledger is an interestng choice..still would have liked Depp in the role but whatever.. Is it me or does the pic remind you of a American Staff Bull Terrior?? Still, looks cool as hell!!
Can't wait to see by erichaislar	May 20th, 2007 07:26:46 AM
A clearer version of this picture with hair and all.
Tranny Ledger is f$#%3 awful by themanwhojaped	May 20th, 2007 07:32:54 AM
This is fucking awful. It doesn't look like the Joker. It looks like Heath Ledger's morning after photo after attending a showing of the Rocky Horror Picture Show on the tail end of a coke binge. That is not the joker. That is Tranny Ledger. Nolan is severely straining my trust. I just can't get behind this..
CANT FUCKING WAIT!! by connor187	May 20th, 2007 07:34:38 AM
The Joker and his gang all wear masks when they rob a bank or somthing because it serves two purposes. 1 to hide their identity and 2 to strike fear into their victims, all a form of intimidation I guess. But that crazy bastard Joker looks like that underneath as well....I Like it my friends, fucking like it.
scary fucker!!!!!!!!!.... by DECKERS	May 20th, 2007 07:38:34 AM
ludmir88 says he doesn't look menacing: yeah, if he met him a dark alley 1.00 am he would take him for a beer! Maybe some Clearasil would clear his face up a little though....this movie is already 3000% better than Spidey 3 and its still a year away....
Also... by connor187	May 20th, 2007 07:42:54 AM
Ive heard that when they attempt to rob the bank in the scenes we have all seen being shot in Chicago, the bank manager isnt playing ball, that is until The Joker takes his mask off to the crys and gasps of the people on the floor. Somthing tells me the manager sings like a little bird after that.
Comic movies ain't for the kiddies anymore -or Bob Kane by aboriginal	May 20th, 2007 07:43:26 AM
Even in the declining sales of comics these days these are still iconic characters that kids will want to flock to see and if this is more of a true-to-life Hannibal-esque tragic, yet truly psychotic Joker like that portrayed in the more graphic of the graphic novels what's this gonna be like for tykes on the big screen? This ain't no Saturday cartoon - even though Mark Hammil's Joker did get a little out there back in the day. Parents are still gonna take their six and seven year olds to see this movie and if its moved into the more adult realm of Frank Miller and less even of Tim Burton kids'll have a tough time getting it and others getting some tweaked nightmares afterwards. I look forward to this as a mature adult now with years of comics, cartoons and movies and love the evolution directors have taken this particular character, but Bob Kane might even have a tough time with this one.
that aint the Joker... by d a v 3 y	May 20th, 2007 07:43:42 AM
...its Robert fucking Smith from the Cure =p
Hey jft2006 by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 07:45:28 AM
You go hype this sht up like Snakes on a Plane and I'll sht down your neck, you twat. Warner Bros doesn't need to listen to fanboys. How cool was the Tumbler pic, then how pathetic did it turn out on film.
Looks amazing! by tile_mcgillus	May 20th, 2007 07:55:41 AM
Captures the essence of the character. It is a dark and sinister interpretation...Great job Nolan!
Someone ought to call that stripper a cab by Eel O'Brian	May 20th, 2007 08:06:17 AM
She's looking pretty rough.
godawful by foree forehead	May 20th, 2007 08:07:01 AM
no accounting for taste i suppose
Don't suppose by OneintenMan	May 20th, 2007 08:13:05 AM
anyone feels like photoshopping some green hair on there? I think with the hair it'll rock.
Looks like the bad guy (Dorian) from The Mask by chrth	May 20th, 2007 08:13:52 AM
(The Jim Carrey one, not the Cher one)
Dead Presidents II: The Lipstick Touch by JackPumpkinhead	May 20th, 2007 08:16:51 AM
Jesus. What a gigantic turd. And I'll bet the freak's "realism! I must have realism in my comic book movie!" is to blame for this travesty.
Reinventing the series was a mistake... by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 08:17:03 AM
Continuing on from Batman and Robin would've worked. Now I'll have to sit thru the same retread that BB offered. God, that movie sux. I just want new adventures, not a remake. That's all BB was - a remake of Batman '89. It was boring. Nothing new. No fun and fantasy. Nolan hasn't a clue. Put Batman in lycra like Spidey and Supes. Bring back the BF batmobile. I should know, because I grew up with the original saga and they didn't seem to need to re-begin the Bond franchise every time they fucked-up a couple. Nolan is a pussy. All he's really doing to regurgiating what we all know. Just bring back Robin, the nipples and simply retcon (or re-edit) Batman and Robin minus all the one-liners. I HATED BATMAN BEGINS! IT WASN'T FUN!
Hideous by JackBauer24	May 20th, 2007 08:17:34 AM
and not in a good way. It's not clever, it's not scary, it just ugly and distracting.
"Old School" Joker? by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:19:01 AM
I thought they'd said the Joker was going to be "old school" in this movie? To me that does not equal old-school! I hope this is fake. I didn't like Batman Begins, Liam Neeson can't act for peanuts, and he ruined the role of Raz just as he ruined Qui-Gonn "Bloody" Jinn. Nolan is over-rated, Bale is over-rated. It wasn't as good as a Frank Miller version of Batman would have been. That's the version they should make and until they do so (let's face it you'd think it would be more likely, with the success of Sin City and 300)the rest of the films they churn out are just marking time in my opinion. God, why do they keep mucking things up so badly??
*it's by JackBauer24	May 20th, 2007 08:19:22 AM

Screw the realism, Nolan... by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 08:20:12 AM
Grow a brain! Fantasy = fantastic, not cartoonish. Get it? No need to be afraid of a bit of colour.
messi, is that true? This may yet be quite a thriller by JDanielP	May 20th, 2007 08:21:07 AM
Bring it on. But whatever the take, I would like to see the Joker make a mental and physical transformation,...from grunge to the stylish, homicidal showman we know (as seen in "The Killing Joke",...though without Batman laughing at the end, just to serve the story at the sacrifice of character). Open a can of whip-ass, Batman.
They're taking it down the wrong path.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:24:49 AM
..I mean, doing Raz-Ahl Guhl or however it's spelt as the main villain in the first movie to the detriment of the more interesting Scarecrow, and all that crap with the crime-boss was just boring, to me the first movie suffered in the same way as Spiderman 3 funnily enough - too many baddies spoil the broth. Especially when one is played by Liam "I hate him" Neeson, and the non-threatening English actor who played the Crime Boss, and Scarecrow - Christ! he's only in the movie for about a total of 2 minutes, the rest is Bale boring the tits off us all with his "I'm conflicted" stuff. It just wasn't entertaining, it wasn't true to the comics and it wasn't well executed. There are a couple of stand out images but that's it. My brother rates it and to this day I have no idea why.
I think the red specks on the forehead are a mistake by chrth	May 20th, 2007 08:25:26 AM
Looking at the website, the only red I see are from pixels
Fan boy or Realism? by Monkeychow01	May 20th, 2007 08:27:56 AM
I personally like Nolan's take on realism. I remember going to the movies to see the original Batman in 89. It was a fun experience. But I REALLY like where they are taking it now. By going back to the Origin Comics, I'm SURE he meant that the Joker is going to be WAY darker and play more on the insanity of the character. The look? I like it. I was tryin myself to get the correct SWF file last night to pull the image out of it, but it looks like someone beat me to the chase. This definately shows that Ledger is going to play the insanity of the character. I'm really not sure why everyone really hated Batman Begins. Other than his cheesy ass batman voice, there wasn't much NOT to like. It put a new spin on the series. I enjoyed the "what if" realism that was put on to the series. If I wanted the cheesyness, I would go back and watch Batman and Robin for the god aweful horror that it was.
aussie accent... by bowtiehoon	May 20th, 2007 08:28:11 AM
ahem, come on messi you can do better than that, colonel activity's ocker attempt was better! how about... Blimey ding-batman, now ya really making me spit the dummy, fair dinkum i'm gonna bung that sheila on the barbie if ya don't piss off to whoopwhoop...alrite i can't do ocker either :-p
I can't believe people are criticizing Batman Begins! by chrth	May 20th, 2007 08:29:05 AM
I mean, so what if Wayne spares the farmer's life and to do so kills everyone in the monastery--including the farmer? Oh wait, he saved the only other white guy, forgot about that.
Seriously, whoever thought a cut smile was a good idea by JackBauer24	May 20th, 2007 08:29:48 AM
should be shot. That's EVERYONE who thought it was a good idea - all fans included. It was always a bad idea, dreamed up by people who had no imagination cos they thought it would be 'dark' and 'realistic'. Who cares if it's totally not right for the character, right? Who cares if all it will do is distract from the performance? Seriously. For the record, I LOVED Batman Begins and had high hopes for this, but now I'm just worried that all I'll be looking at in the movie is Ledger's stupid dumb smeared lipstick chelsea smile. Terrible.
Continued use of horror motifs. Yes!!! by wowsah156	May 20th, 2007 08:31:21 AM
What Nolan has done with the characters is closer to the spirit of what the characters are the the flagship comic book. In Begins The Batman hmiself becomes a thing of fear and horror, to he criminals and the cops through the hallucinations from the gas. ( I bet we will see this gas modified by The Batman for THe Dark Knight). This horror motif continues with The Joker. The pic we got is (for a pg) horrifying. It removes in one fair swoop the bad memeories of the 60's and the Burton effort. Nolan is closer to the nasty horrifying aspect of what The Joker really is with this single photo shot.
Nolan's lost it by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 08:32:20 AM
The piercing eyes and the smile make the Joker creepy. The laugh and his actions. Why the bloody unsubtle scars? They're not creepy, it's revolting. Zsasz is more interesting than this pic. (btw, no kiddies are gonna buy a figurine of this Joker, Nolan. No one wants to walk by a poster advertising TDK with this image either. Don't rape my childhood with this garbage. You wanna go overboard with the pyschotic-thriller angle, don't bring your agenda into Batman. You don't need to make a Batman film this un-photogenic.
sigh by JackBauer24	May 20th, 2007 08:33:50 AM
The Joker isn't some goth freak who likes listening to death metal and watching gore movies. His tastes are actually quite refined. Smart suits, classical music (think Alex from Clockwork Orange) and SMART MAKE-UP, ie. lipstick that STAYS on the lips! Ugh, I just can't get over how hideous this thing is.
For Nasty and Horrifying See... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:35:21 AM
Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's "The Killing Joke" His face was fine as was in the comics...All the needed to add was some yellowy teeth when he's being scary and then remove it (yeah, it's a continuity error from one point of view - terrifying surrealism from another) when he's being charming...Check out Batman Dark Knight Returns, he looks completely straight faced at the start then when he starts doing his "thang" his face assumes all of these horrific exaggerated evil qualities. Now that would be sweet to see on film. Not this half-assed attempt.
Oh fuck off and die Nosferatu Jones by JackBauer24	May 20th, 2007 08:38:53 AM
The dialogue is not atrocious - it's better than any other comic book movie that's ever been made that's for sure. Honestly it really pisses me off when people rag on Batman Begins just because they have no taste whilst simultaneously singing the praises of immature, overbaked crap like Sin City. Yeah, one might think Sin City was better than BB - if they were 13 years old.
I wish I worked in Hollywood Quality Control... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:40:08 AM
Bet you all do too; why are they so blind to stinking ideas?The so often mistake butchery of subject matter for "exciting innovation" too. Let's hope it is exciting innovation and turns out to be a classic re-interpretation of the character and not just the same old rubbish with arse make-up to further spoil the soup. Man, I get worked up about this stuff. Think my blood sugar levels are low...Come on Nolan, wake up you dozy gimp!
Sin City was better than Batman Begins by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:44:55 AM
The two don't even deserve comparison. For one thing Sin City was the closest interpretation of a comic book ever as evidenced by frame-by-frame comparisons to the books. It was innovative in it's use of effects. It was humorous, tongue-in-cheek and brilliant. Batman Begins was ill-concieved, ill-structured, couldn't decide who the main characters should be, dull, pretentious, badly acted, and unsatisfying. I think most over 13 year olds would agree with this assessment and under 13 year olds too, you know under 13 year olds have taste to and Batman should be for them aswell.
yeah i figure messi.. by bowtiehoon	May 20th, 2007 08:46:26 AM
LOL...i'm an aussie too mate, yeah no one friggen talks like that...well most aussies don't talk like that, i'm just taking the piss with the sterotype...ok that and i'm bored ;-p
"Why do we fall....?" by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:50:22 AM
It's not that profound, I mean it's not the Bhagavad Gita we're watching - it's Batman. And he had loads more profound things to say in Miller's work. Year one for instance, where he crashes the corrupt society party and extinguishes the lights and the fire and that; great image that speaks a thousand words. And Dark Knight, "This will be a good death, good enough" and all that. Much more artistic, I think Neeson comes across as insincere. You can see through the facade of "wisdom" he puts up when he plays these "wise" characters, like Qui Gonn, didn't carry half the gravitas that should have been associated with the role.
who the fuck is ragging on batman begins? by repligin	May 20th, 2007 08:52:40 AM
what are you muppets doing!? i wasn't going to even write on the tb cause i just assumed there woulbe a consensus on begins being fantastic and this joker being pretty awesome. we have yet to see him in action, or even a anything other than the low-light tight close up, so give it a chance. my god, how can you complain about begins? and who ever that was that thought they should have sticked with 'fun' batman, should not be allowed anywhere near a cinema or dvd store. people like you, my retarded monkey fuck, are the reason why fantastic 4 was 'fun'.
Messi by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:53:19 AM
You're a prick, everyone saw it but if you think Hollywood should only make movies for your age group you sadly don't understand the industry you reactionary piece of shit. I said Batman should be for them too, ie they should enjoy it, we should enjoy it, everyone should enjoy it, not be subjected to the boring mess of a plot that Nolan thrust upon us, and the fighting! What was that about? They spent ages researching and practising this amazing martial arts system and in the edit of the fights you can't see jack-shit of it. Useless. Rather like yourself messi....Twat
I'm relly enjoying this by SteffanLongdon	May 20th, 2007 08:54:01 AM
I'm relly enjoying this teaser stuff, really cool eh? I just wish that more movies would follow this suit.
PS by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 08:55:41 AM
I'm in no way in favour of bringing back the old Batman films - they were even worse, what I'm saying is the can do "Gritty, real and dark" but they can still not fuck it up in the process.
JOKER LOOKS LIKE CRAP! by stones_throw	May 20th, 2007 08:55:55 AM
Why mess with the design when you have the most iconic villain ever? Come on, EVERYONE knows what the Joker looks like and that ain't it. Too much realism will just wind up looking silly, cause there ain't nobody real who swings around in a bat suit.
GlenyD by repligin	May 20th, 2007 08:58:38 AM
if they make films that everyone enjoys, then it'll be forgettable bubblegum. they should try and tailor a film to its audience, so that even if you don't like nolan's batman, something else will be made that caters more for you precise taste, even if it is at the expense of others' enjoyment.
That's true enough repligin by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:01:15 AM
Indeed they should, but looking at Batman Begins and the indications we're getting of Dark Knight, who exactly are they trying to aim this at? I mean it's not at the hard-core fan boy who will as has been done here rebel against the changes from source material? It's not the kids, as it's obviously too scary? It's not the mature grown ups is it? It's the Goths in't it? that's who it must be.... Hmmmmm....Jaws wasn't very forgettable.....I think everyone enjoyed that.
Batman and Robin by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:02:57 AM
Sucked you cunt sucker. I'm not a major fanboy....You grow the fuck up you fucking gaylord. You get your kicks insulting random people on forums? Shit eater.
Whiny bitch parade out today by tile_mcgillus	May 20th, 2007 09:07:07 AM
Stop blocking the streets you little girls the actual fans have to get through. Nolan has made joker sinister and scary. He might be playing up the bat shit crazy angle/ evil murderous fuck. Although probably not like the cartoon or the 89 movie. He is going to make the Joker horrifying to look at. Good. I mean we could have gotten these: http://www.bigredhair.com/port folio/illustration/joker.sm http://www.myconfinedspace.com /watermark.php?src=wp-content/ uploads/2006/11/joker-4-realz. jpg Which although interesting for a over the top Batman film do not fit in the Nolan "realistic, gritty, horror" Batman interpretation. Consider me excited and I want to see more! Although I did always kind of hope for this...http://shopping.animazi ng.com/cart/images/4277.gif
Pardon my French by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:07:31 AM
But he deserved it...and started it I might add.
Anyone who uses the word 'gay' as an insult... by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	May 20th, 2007 09:08:27 AM
on the internet is automatically an imature, virgin-for-life, insignificant and pathetic piece of shit. Pro or anti-Begins, it doesn't matter.
So much anger! sigh the Joker is already winning by chrth	May 20th, 2007 09:08:32 AM
There's too much confusion I can't get no relief
You.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:10:12 AM
...must be a member of Stonewall...non?Gay used as an insult doesn't necessarily equate to homosexual. I'd like to point out that some of my best friends are Gay..but then, come to think of it, so are some of my arch Nemeses....
Another classic joker pic... by tile_mcgillus	May 20th, 2007 09:11:30 AM
http://static.flickr.com/93/24 2074309_240f3ad03b_o.png
..... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:12:40 AM
"First time someone touched a nerve that wasn't half way up my own ass!";-)
If this is what they are doing to the Joker by Eclipse7015	May 20th, 2007 09:13:23 AM
I hate to wonder how Two Face will tirn out.
Now Two-Face by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:14:22 AM
Should have scars...Yes...They'd probably get him right...There's more room for maneouvre with his look.
Missing the point... by XXVIII	May 20th, 2007 09:18:56 AM
In all the hubbub about the image, we've missed that fact that this Joker may be a raving psycho, but he's obviously pretty skilled in HTML code and webmail. Interesting.
You're right by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:20:29 AM
He should give up Crime and get a job in I.T. He'd probably make more cash at the end of the day and could get his face repaired. Plus his look would be a unique selling point....hmmm
OH NO!!! by phaedrus007	May 20th, 2007 09:21:08 AM
The scars on Joker's face was pretty the thing I HATED most about Tim Burton's original movie Joker. It was the stupidest tweak of a villian ever!!! It looked horrible and took so much away from Jack N.'s performance. I'm a big fan of Begins, but this just totally killed my enthusiasm for this sequel. Ugh... it looks fucking awful... how hard is it to the Joker Hollywoodpeople? It's a fucking man with fucking clown makeup on.... go to the fucking circus and STOP RUINING CLASSIC SHIT!!!! This is why DC's movie don't gross enough to scrub Marvel's balls.
And why Harvey Dent? Why not go after Dent's opponent? by chrth	May 20th, 2007 09:23:58 AM
I think there's a story behind this somewhere. Hrm...
"The Krays give Heath a Chelsea Smile !" by DANZIGG	May 20th, 2007 09:25:13 AM
looks crap, sorry but thats no joker
Grant Morrison by Chaka!	May 20th, 2007 09:25:37 AM
That's his joker ... as he wrote him in his Batman comics (self inflicted scar across the mouth with a knife). Very creepy looking. For people who want a 1:1 comic variation: It would NOT work. He's drawn in the comic with overexagerated features (tons of teeth that are SUPER long, a longer than human chin, etc). On a regular dude, that smile would look silly (Nicholson for example).
Joker by Redmantle	May 20th, 2007 09:31:15 AM
I trust Nolan to make a good film. Yeah, the make-up is different from what we're used to. So what! Raping my childhood? Ridiculous. Dear lord people.
GUESS WHAT!?! IT'S FAKE!!! by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 09:31:30 AM
Seriously, stop and look at it! There's no way that's the real deal. It's entirely blurred and photoshopped. There are no details or textures. It's shrouded in darkness. And he's not smiling nor are his eyes sinister. As if this is a promotional pic!!!! Get with it! It's too soon for this kind of image! It looks like a soulless drug addict, not a demon jokester! IT'S FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!!!
Nolan is taking the right path by performingmonkey	May 20th, 2007 09:33:48 AM
You want the comics, go read them. You want to masturbate over Year One and The Dark Knight Returns, be my guest. Remember that this is Nolan's vision. He cast Ledger for a reason. He's given The Joker this look for a reason. He's influenced by the comics but he isn't making a comic, he's making the movie he wants to make. Now...WHY AREN'T YOU LAUGHING????
What i like about that pic is the eyes by PotSmokinAlien	May 20th, 2007 09:36:10 AM
there is some serious pain/brain behind all that latex. other than that, if they're still going for the 'if this was real life' vibe then have done a nice, fucked up job. shit man if my mouth looked like that i would probably become a smile-obsessed psychopath as well.
Ah, you emericans ... by Filou	May 20th, 2007 09:36:50 AM
... you ave no taste. BB was magnificent, sure it had it's weaknesses, but it was very bold. Heath Ledger is a wonderful actor and he is a great choice. I just hope it will be really-really dark. Let the Joker be arrogant and not care about that flying bat, let Batman fail completely and let the Joker be out of his league. Then we will have what everyone is waiting for: Badass-Grunge vs. Iron-will-Darkness! I like Nolan, he may be a bit of a sissy, but Bale (remember The Machinist) is not. They'll carry the film.
Best. Joker. Ever. by Magnum Opus	May 20th, 2007 09:37:48 AM
If you think otherwise, you are a moron. Please don't watch this film when it comes out, because you don't deserve it.
@Darrenspool by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 09:37:57 AM
I agree 100%. FAKE,FAKE,FAKE! But you gotta admit, when the shit hits the fat, this is gonna rock. The guy who did all this is gonna be the coolest/most hated guy of all time. For anyone wondering what we are talking about. Look at the side of the mouth on the right. Crappy smudge marks from the white they used to blend the face. Then on the right hand side of the head, its blurry and uneven. The face has messy parts and is made dark on the side to hide any details that would have been more difficult to photoshop. It seems like they didnt care about the details because this thing was gonna be covered by pixels for awhile. They just got thousands of email addressed through this.
Cannot wait to see the full effect of... by mrfan	May 20th, 2007 09:39:08 AM
Heath as the Joker. I think it will be great. Honestly, I still hope for a Two Face in the third movie. Great villian.
I dig it/NOT AKIN TO FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by mrsinister7381	May 20th, 2007 09:41:24 AM
This is different, this isn't a purple suit wearing flower lapel sporting cartoon Joker. Good call by Chaka!, this is very Morrison inspired. It looks realistic and gritty, as Batman should be. The Nolan version is the deepest, most accurate, richest translation of comic to big screen ever. Watching "Begins" feels like reading a Batman comic. CUT ALL THIS "RAPING MY CHILDHOOD" BULLSHIT!!! Flames on Optimus is raping, nipples on the batsuit was raping, Peter Parker as a jazz musician was raping. Heath Ledger as a dark, psycho Joker? not even close to a rape. Sounds great to me, in fact.
Initial proof it's FAKE by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 09:43:56 AM
The original TDK logo on the warnerbros site linked to the Harvey Dent teaser pic, and yet that pic has no further link to the trashed joker-dent pic. An elaborate hoax. Where did this ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com link originate? It's not under the same WB domain. Also, notice the sides of the Joker's face blur with the black on the sides to hide the former background.
Eh? by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 09:48:13 AM
I'm not American - I think masturbating over a Batman comic would be slightly odd. I think voicing an opinion on Nolan's vision is justified. It's not his money he's using after all, it's the studios. They wants Batman - it's his job to deliver Batman. End of. I am laughing.
FAKE!!!!!! by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 09:53:15 AM
Yes, yes, yes. I think everyone will slowly realize this today. Every single picture I have seen has looked the same. I have been working with photoshop for a long time, and this is a decent picture that was made very sloppy. This is the picture I keep seeing linked, as 'finished'. http://img523.imageshack.us/im g523/8831/jokerslash1ug7.jpg When I saw this, I thought the people who extracted it, did the bad photoshop mess ups. But now I can see on the 'official site' that it is being revealed on, the same crap is on the real pic. Notice the mouth first of all. The person who made this, used a layer of red for the mouth, and masked around it to make it look nice. Except he did a crap job between the lips. You can clearly see that he did not take time to match up the lines. Also, look at the sides of the head, it is very blurred and eneven like he used a light eraser to cut off the hair and rest of the head. Then look at the smudge marks on the right and left side of the mouth. They are clearly from the white layer he used to blend the face with. Recoloring a face in Photoshop is very easy. Messing with the hair, and perfecting the lighting is a bit tougher. He went the easy route and just bypassed all of that to get everyone excited. He chopped off the hair and made it choppier to give it a 'crazy' feel, but also hide all the harder details. Trust me. Its fake, and me and Darren should be hailed as gods when this is exposed.
yes, it's photoshopped...but it's not fake. by ollirudi	May 20th, 2007 09:54:19 AM
read the whole thread, people. the entire pic has not been uncovered yet, people are photoshopping in the missing pixels to make the available image clearer.
Its all relative by Mr Chuff	May 20th, 2007 09:54:32 AM
I'm not entirely sure what I mean but its good to have a clever subject it seems... Wait till you see this Joker moving, talking, laughing, shoooting by-standers for no good reason...we can but hope for the last one.
Happily Convinced It's a Fake by phaedrus007	May 20th, 2007 09:57:17 AM
It better be.... if that's real, Nolan needs a new line of work.
This is SO much more exciting... by Spidey3SUCKED	May 20th, 2007 09:58:23 AM
Than ANYTHING in that greasy whale turd, Spider-man 3. Looks awesome! Until this baby opens, I say go see Pirates 3 like crazy next week. Take back the opening weekend record from the wallcrawling waltzing whiney whale turd!
Hey Christopher Nolan. Fuck off, eh? by WolfmanNards	May 20th, 2007 09:59:20 AM
First things first, in regards to batman begins- if you truly did want to make it look like that movie took place in the real world, I got a little news for ya, prissy brit boy (I can sense your elitism in your casting), IN THE REAL WORLD SHADOWS AREN'T BROWN! What's what, you used the color scheme for cinematic effect? You intended to bend the rules of reality to enhance your storytelling? So you do understand that being absolutely literal about everything is unnecessary. Okay, then why did you spend hours explaining to us how he bought his bat ears? We'll accept it as it is. Stop ruining the mystery- that's part of the fun. exhaggerate. We're fine with it. Nobody's gonna believe that Batman could possibly happen in the first place. Stop watering down this brilliant fantasy. Give us a joker who is so fucked up, he's always smiling. Don't give us some goth kid with wax wounds around his lips. A good actor with the right look (hence - NOT LEDGER) could pull off the performance of a mad genius with a sick sense of humor. Whatever. Fuck off. I'm not gonna watch your batman movie. You pushed me off that cliff with this picture. It pains me to say that I'm not gonna see a batman movie. Christ I saw Batman and Robin in the theater. However lame the characters were portrayed in that movie, their comic book origin's essence was still there. Once you show me a picture of the joker... not smiling... with a bad makeup job... (the joker takes care of his image very well- its one of the many facets of the character that you apparently will never understand) well - I'm out.
So this one's directed by Rob Zombie then... by jimmy_009	May 20th, 2007 09:59:25 AM
Will have to see this in action, but otherwise I'm pretty underwhelmed.
AICN is laughing.... ANOTHER FAKE!!! by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 09:59:37 AM
Don't believe this elaborate hoax! A Joker pic of this magnitude would not be released so soon. Plus there are no official links from the WB search engine to this particular flash site.
FAKE MY ASS by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:00:14 AM
why don't you FAKE-shouters just wait until it's completely revealed (or, how about actually CONTRIBUTING by revealing a few pixels yourself), then you'll see that it won't just end with the final image, but I'd bet my ass there'll be more! either the photo will come to life and scare the shit out of all of us, or something else... but we need to finish it!
darrenspool by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:02:51 AM
yeah, and just because DVD easter eggs aren't clearly linked in the DVD menu, they're fake?? how boring would it be if there was an official link on the WB site, saying "click here to reveal the face of the Joker"
Ledger said it was all about by Mcfearless	May 20th, 2007 10:03:09 AM
Ledger said it was all about the eyes not the laugh in TDK but i can't help but think Panda bear when i see this. Hope it comes across better on film.
WAKE UP!!!! IT'S ANOTHER HOAX!!! by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 10:04:09 AM
STOP! You're giving your email address away to Internet fraudsters!
no-one's giving away their email addresses by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:09:53 AM
at least you don't have to, simply use http://www.10minutemail.com and you can reveal as many pixels as you want
I see..... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:10:56 AM
Messi's missed his medication time again this afternoon. Come on Messi, take the pill.
Regarding the fakeness... by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 10:12:50 AM
As I said, some of the parts look like they could be 'translator' messups. However, the part I can already see through he pixels on the site, is the messed up right side of the mouth and head.
hope it's a hoax by rainbowtrout1265	May 20th, 2007 10:13:09 AM
Ledger is bland and the pic is a fake. And it looks awfully gay.
PLEASE BE FAKE by Toxic Frog	May 20th, 2007 10:13:48 AM
Oh good lord - will we NEVER see a good Joker on film? Why must every director try to leave his mark on the best fictional character in comics?
Riiight, and by the way... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:14:35 AM
Box office returns have got balls all to do with how good a film actually is, it's all about the concept, and often people will see a shit movie twice just to make sure they weren't dreaming the first time round, as I did with the Phantom Menace. The reason this film has any anticipation is because it's a major studio and it's "Batman", nothing else.
hey! by themykra	May 20th, 2007 10:14:37 AM
I POSTED THAT CLER IMAGE AT CHUD MBs! THEIFS! I CALL THEIFS!
Looks great, hopefully this is real by fish tacos	May 20th, 2007 10:16:41 AM
Demented, creepy as hell and completely different from the awful Nicholson Joker.
PLEAS PLEASE PLEASE be Fake! by ZeroCorpse	May 20th, 2007 10:17:20 AM
This is a suck-ass version of the Joker. It's just the Nicholson non-Joker redone to look more creepy. It sucks. Why can't WB and DC stick to the fucking source material, ever?
here's what it looks like by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:17:59 AM
no photoshopping, only replaced the pixels that belong to the Harvey Dent picture with plack pixels, so the Joker pic becomes more clearly visible: http://www.avi-film.com/joker2 0.jpg
almost there! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:20:05 AM
keep revealing pixels, guys! it'll be worth it!
wouldn't use my e-mail addy by theonlymj	May 20th, 2007 10:20:08 AM
Uh, I think the joker site is fake for a simple reason. If you go to the harvey dent site, it is ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbro s.com. The joker site is just ibelieveinharverydenttoo.com If warner bros put that on the first site, the "hacked" site would still have it too. take it from an novice web designer
skynetbauxi by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 10:21:45 AM
The Joker I know wouldn't make his first appearance in this way. He seems to be playing games here, but then it reveals a sombre, uninteresting drug addict. Doesn't that ring false?
Updated Image by br1947	May 20th, 2007 10:22:09 AM
http://i8.tinypic.com/5zmlzip. jpg The one posted by Quint is from my post late last night (about 12:45 am, remove spaces). Here's the latest version as of 10am this morning. fyi... RedClover9 and Darrenspool, you guys are idiots. "There are blurred places, it must be fake" The image I posted is based on an incomplete image on the site with the pixels from the Dent poster removed. That leaves gaps in the image, how do you fill gaps in an image??? BLUR!!!! Anyone that has ever used photoshop would know this in a second, so don't give me the "I've been using photoshop for a long time" bit. Jackasses
It's funny how.. by IronSpidey	May 20th, 2007 10:23:14 AM
Just because this particular picture of the Joker isn't exactly like the comics people think the whole movie is ruined. The Batsuit isn't the same as the comics either people. Give Nolan and Ledger a chance, though I know you'll all be seeing the movie anyways.
Check you out messi by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:24:47 AM
What's your fucking problem prick baws? I was stating my personal opinion on the movie - if you've got a problem with it go and suck your Grandad's nutsack. Some people thought Begins was great - maybe it was to them, but at the end of the day I think it's a flawed movie which ripped off it's best ideas from source material that was superior to the product they put out. This movie is anticipated also because people are wanting the Joker - he's as loved if not more so than Batman himself. And no, most people I know will not tell me I'm full of shit, most people tell me I'm spot-on. So away and stick your dick in a blender whydon'tcha?
Almost there! by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 10:26:03 AM
Come on guys, keep sending your email! Remember, it doesn't work for Hotmail or Yahoo, only Gmail and "10 Minute Mail".
Another thing... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:27:18 AM
Where's the Joker's hair at?
BTW by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:27:24 AM
BATMAN BEGINS was ok, but it's not a movie I want in my 500+ DVD collection... because it's no fun to watch, it's trying too hard to be realistic, and the microwave heating water in pipes but not the water in the human bodies is really stupid... it doesn't have an interesting villain, and I never felt anything more than the urge to smirk and some very mild excitement when watching it... it doesn't suck hard, but doesn't rock hard either... which is also the main difference to SPIDER-MAN 3, which sucks hard at times, but then again also rocks incredibly hard the rest of the time
br1947 by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 10:27:34 AM
Where did that right smudge mark off the side of the mouth come from? Its on the picture being revealed on the site, so you cant take credit for that one.
BULLSHIT! by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 10:29:25 AM
There should be a copyright on an image of this magnitude either way. And there isn't. I mean, come on. This shit has no certification.
oh and about the hair... by br1947	May 20th, 2007 10:30:27 AM
it's kinda puffy/curly, but you can only see it by bumping the brightness and contrast way, way up.
PRAY that thats fake by CaptGrogan	May 20th, 2007 10:30:31 AM
cause it fucking sucks. Thats NOT the joker - HAS to be a hoax.
Redclover9 by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 10:31:10 AM
I already told you it was fake, the site is nothing more than a mass email collection scam by a dead domain fowarding company in scottsdale arizona. THe registration info for the original dent site is for warner brothers, so is the admin contact, anyone who knows how to use a WHOIS look up could tell you that. The second is registered to a company called DomainsbyProxy, Inc. They are known email collectors. An elaborate hoax is not beyond spam kings. And AICN is historically easily duped into thinking something's official. They need to have better source checkers on this site, Especially if it is web based. And of course it's photoshopped. All publicity shots, fake or real are photshopped a bit. Some more extensively than others. God, you people will believe anything... CHECK YOUR SOURCES!
The Superman Sequel by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:32:09 AM
Doesn't have any hype because it's further off than this sequel. Why would they waste money hyping it yet spaz? Trust me the machine will kick into full gear closer to release, and everyone will go see that too. Begins WAS well recieved - I never said it wasn't. I said I didn't like it. That's what I said. I don't know why I'm bothering my arse replying to you, you're clearly incapable of intelligent conversation.
AICN was duped... so was superherohype by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 10:33:15 AM
FAKEASS SCUM FRAUDSTERS! I am the master of logic. You can't defeat me!!! I know you're reading this, you bastards!
Messi by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:34:28 AM
You seriously have a hardon for the whole Bale/Nolan thing don't you? You assume because they guy didn't like Begins he has no taste? Twat. His review was spot-on.
Messi by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:34:45 AM
You seriously have a hard on for the whole Bale/Nolan thing don't you? You assume because the guy didn't like Begins he has no taste? Twat. His review was spot-on.
messi by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:35:18 AM
my DVD collection is full of entertaining movies, which is why BB isn't in it
I can't believe I believed this fake... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 10:36:15 AM
...and gave the swines my e-mail address. Twat it!! AICN should take down the scam link ASAP, and then grovel for forgiveness.
I think by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 10:36:43 AM
I think this Joker looks pretty good. At first I jumped on the "it's shit!" bandwagon, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. Sure, I will always love the Nicholson Joker I grew up with, the same way I will love the cartoon and comic book Joker, but that is not what he is going for. This should be pretty cool, how the rip in his face deforms the signature smile. To all of the fan boys that are saying how bad it is: if it will suck so much because you personally couldn't design the make-up, don't watch it, let alone waste all of your time talking about it on a talk back page. If it is so bad, I am sure you have better things to do with your time, like sticking your wiener in a meat grinder.
Fake? by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 10:38:30 AM
Is there any proof it is fake, besides the fact that it doesn't have the WB logo all over it?
darrenspool by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:38:55 AM
yes, you're right, the Joker we know wouldn't make his first appearance like this... but Nolan will definitely "realistic-ize" the Joker like he tried to do with everything else in BB... his Joker is gonna be a fucked up, mean criminal, and that's exactly the face we're seeing right now
Marilyn Manson IS The Joker! by uss cygnus	May 20th, 2007 10:38:56 AM
Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm glad a lot of you guys aren't directing this movie. by WhoDis	May 20th, 2007 10:40:29 AM
Those that loved Burton's vision already have your films. Those that are comic purists already have your beloved (non-sarcasm) Batman : The Animated Series. Christoper Nolan's got his take on the material, just like any other comic writer/artist who gets there hands on the Batman series, and I'm loving every minute of it. We don't want another "Superman Returns", do we? (i.e. no new vision, just recycling the past = boring).
Dr. Cliff Huxtable by Donnie_Drunko	May 20th, 2007 10:41:04 AM
I would laugh my ass off if Dr. Cliff Huxtable was behind this and when the final pixel is gone the picture with him holding the Jokers Cards pop up. He moves the cards away from his face and it is him with a homemade Jokers face on. Maybe he will have a mustache under his paint too.
Holy shit, revelation! by WolfmanNards	May 20th, 2007 10:41:08 AM
Why the fuck isn't Aaron eckhart playing the joker? http://tinyurl.com/yo47f9 I pray that they are fucking with us like they were with the last movie in the case where we thought liam neeson was playing ducard, and he turned out to be ra's al ghul all along. Wouldn't that be fantastic? Otherwise, fuck you christopher nolan.
Poetic Warrior by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 10:45:02 AM
If you don't like the movie, don't watch it, don't talk about. Get a life you loser. It is pathetic that you have nothing better to do then complain about one little thing. And, what do you want this movie to be? A carbon copy of Burton's? Face it, no movie will ever be exactly like what the original was, and losers like you need to accept that. Get a date, loser.
WhoDis... He IS recycling the past. by ZeroCorpse	May 20th, 2007 10:46:30 AM
The 1989 Batman had a scarred Joker. This is just a more extreme version of that. Anyway, I'm holding out hope that ArasinGM is right, and this is a scam.
just don't kill him off by Jubba	May 20th, 2007 10:48:52 AM
keep the joker alive at the end of the film!
Actually if you look at the picture by Donnie_Drunko	May 20th, 2007 10:49:44 AM
Of Dr. Cliff Huxtable holding the cards something strange sticks out. Look closely at his hair that is peering out over the top of the cards he is holding. Do you see it? Think about it for a second. I swear I think Dr. Cliff Huxtable is really David Hasselhoff!!! Look at the hair its him I just know it! He was drunk one night while chewing on a tasty burger when he came up with this crazy shit. What a mad man indeed.
Wait, what? by OBSD	May 20th, 2007 10:51:13 AM
Seriously Quint, Harry et al, please do some research for once and figure out if this site is truly fake or not. Otherwise you are encouraging millions of your readers to give their email addresses to an unknown entity, which is highly uncool and generally pretty shitty. It's funny how you people feel the need to protect your readers from spoilers of the Lost Finale, but you don't feel obligated to protect them from internet scams. Way to go, guys.
The comic book Joker doesn't work on film by rollnstns	May 20th, 2007 10:51:43 AM
Look at all the fan films, the purple suit, the bright green hair. If that joker showed up, it would rob this Batman series of what it did right in the first one. Comic book Joker on film belongs in Dick Tracy II.
So its fake!!!!! We where all dupped! by erichaislar	May 20th, 2007 10:52:18 AM
Man this is getting annoying.
Fake? by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 10:53:24 AM
What proof says it is fake?
Proof it's fake by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 10:54:27 AM
I said it last night after checking the domain names for both sites. http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/32723#comment_151 8370 check that link for me sayign that. If you want to prove it to yourself. Find someone who does a WHOIS lookup for domain names, and find the registration info. for the site Ibelieveinharveydent.com it was registered on may 11th, and is registered to Warner Bros. The second site which iss the fake pic Ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com is registered to DomainsByProxy, INC. a known email spam database dead domain forwarding company. The people who actually participated in this just got themselves included in a spam database. 2.7 million people duped into giving out email addresses(this is accounting for those who may have used alternate or 10 minute mail addresses) AICN is very readily duped by these kinds of elaborate scams. They need better fact checkers on the site for the millions of pounds of crap they receive. And as for everyone out there who says "i've worked with photoshop for years, this is fake" etc. I say this: of course it's photoshopped, almost all publicity shots are to some extent. it's not like the program is completely unknown except to a few elite people with access to it.
FUCK THIS, U PIGFUCKER! by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 10:55:22 AM
Promoting a movie way in advance? Hey Quint, ain't that a bit suspect?
animated Joker reveal by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:56:19 AM
check out this little animation I made (sorry about the jump in the middle, but I needed some sleep last night) http://www.avi-film.com/joker. reveal01.mov
@Night by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 10:57:30 AM
No proof. Just many, many hints. And this is coming from someone who hopes this is all real, but I doubt it. The pic looks badly photoshopped, and the site does not appear to be registered to Warner Bros. Its also funny that ONE guy found the cards at ONE shop, for a NATIONAL campaign. Did anyone else notice how shitty the email submit section is too? fade from the pixels is all nice, then you get a submit button straight from the shitty spam sites you try to avoid.
TRUE ADAPTATIONS by Jewish_Batman	May 20th, 2007 10:57:59 AM
So I think it is awesome that they are using the "I believe in Harvey Dent" line, which is from the Long Halloween for those of you Marvel nerds who don't know. And the blood writing that comes up when it tells you to check your email is EXACTLY the same as the blood text used in Arkham Asylum by Grant Morrison... fucking awesome shit. I love Nolan because he really loves the great, dark, fucked up Batman comics that true dark knight nerds love. BB is so true to Year One by Miller, and its sequel is going to be equally of a "holy shit that's just like..." experience.
This is bullshit by erichaislar	May 20th, 2007 10:58:22 AM
we should all file a fucking lawsuit against DomainsByProxy so this shit does not happen again.
ArasinGM by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 10:59:16 AM
didn't you (or someone else) say last night that the www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.co m domain was registered BEFORE the www.ibelieveinharveydent.com domain?? so how could a faker do that??
Whoa whoa whoa by TruPhan	May 20th, 2007 10:59:38 AM
When did it become cool to hate Batman Begins? I guess I must've missed that train.
I think its real... by mistakeagian	May 20th, 2007 10:59:53 AM
Here is the Registrar info for the site: Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENTTOO.COM Created on: 14-May-07 Expires on: 14-May-09 Last Updated on: Administrative Contact: Private, Registration IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENTTOO.COM@do mainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENTTOO.COM@do mainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: NS49.DOMAINCONTROL.COM NS50.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
@ArasinGM by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 11:00:30 AM
Of course a lot of work is photoshopped. And even some adds have some mess ups. But this is not the caliber of picture that they would release first. Its blurry and splotchy.
If it were fake by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 11:03:47 AM
If it were fake I think it would allow the same email address to be entered more then once, but when attempting to do so, it says "Never try to cheat a cheater". The whole thing just looks so professional, I am not sure. We need the people at AIC to investigate.
Clear this up... by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 11:04:09 AM
I would also like to point out that I am not a Batman hater. I am looking forward to this, and I think that (if this was real) its a genius marketing campaign. However, after pouring over the picture, the site, and all the information, I just could not take it as truth, once I started to get all the little bits of information.
blurry and splotchy by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:05:16 AM
of course it is... I keep telling you guys, this is the first frame of a video that's gonna start playing as soon as the last pixel has been revealed... and that's why the image quality isn't as good as it would be with a promo photo (for example the black around his eyes, which is not really black)... the Joker will talk to us, I bet
batman on film by Thegipperlives	May 20th, 2007 11:06:56 AM
they have this same picture at the batman on film website claiming to be official as well.
WolfmanNards by skiprat1	May 20th, 2007 11:08:04 AM
What...are you saying he's elitist because he cast a lot of British people? Aren't there enough movies full of Americans for you? What difference does it make anyway? And if that's no the problem, then what is? Why are you so angry about this? Just don't see it, and don't read the talkbacks if it bothers you that much. Jesus.
that's one ugly joker by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 11:08:06 AM
we got there
WolfmanNards by skiprat1	May 20th, 2007 11:08:24 AM
What...are you saying he's elitist because he cast a lot of British people? Aren't there enough movies full of Americans for you? What difference does it make anyway? And if that's not the problem, then what is? Why are you so angry about this? Just don't see it, and don't read the talkbacks if it bothers you that much. Jesus.
skynetbauxi is a PLANT! by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 11:10:12 AM
There won't be no fucking video at the end, you cunting wank artist. Why even say that?
If You AICN Motherfuckers... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:11:12 AM
If You AICN Motherfuckers have passed the community a spam website, I swear to bloody Jesus I'll never visit this site again. You WILL doublecheck that (as well as every future) domain before you post them to your site. Fucking AMATEUR HOUR, the lot of you. Class action. Say it loud. Say it proud.
Skynet I still think by Donnie_Drunko	May 20th, 2007 11:12:06 AM
It's going to be a video of Dr. Cliff Huxtable aka David Hasselhoff will appear in Clown makeup. Drinking a beer and eating a burger if we are lucky.
so, because the site's registered, by OBSD	May 20th, 2007 11:12:55 AM
that means its not a scam site? Since when? It seems to me that Domainsbyproxy.com is a site that PROTECTS scammmer sites, but what do I know? I still think that AICN should investigate, and apologize for encouraging 2.5 million of their readers to give up their email addresses, but that won't happen.
Has anyone READ The Dark Knight Returns? by topaz4206	May 20th, 2007 11:13:42 AM
Joker looked like a horror-show. This is about right! WTG Nolan
This can't be real. by Cleyu	May 20th, 2007 11:18:08 AM
Why wouldn't they just change the original Harvy Dent poster on the Warner Bros site? Instead of creating a whole new site?
No Half-Measures... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:19:21 AM
Here's info regarding the registrar of the site: Registrant: Registration Private Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: GLOBALDAILYPAY.COM Created on: 10-Dec-02 Expires on: 10-Dec-04 Last Updated on: 18-Feb-03 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration GLOBALDAILYPAY.COM@domainsbypr oxy.com 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration GLOBALDAILYPAY.COM@domainsbypr oxy.com 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: NS2.WORKDIGITAL.COM NS1.WORKDIGITAL.COM This was pulled from http://www.chatmag.com/help/sc am.html. The registrar has been running scams for a while now. Great fucking work, AICN.
Mad Hatter, Black Mask & Grayson (cameo only) by Pagliacci	May 20th, 2007 11:20:27 AM
Those are the only tweaks I would add to the masterfully revised Batman franchise. Make a serial rapist version of the Mad Hatter played by Steve Buscemi; a murderous Black Mask played by either Viggo Mortenson or the godlike Vincent D'Onofrio; and finally a character named Dick Grayson, who makes only a cameo (and no Robin). He would have to be played by, who else, America's Sweetheart, Shia LeBouf!! (or however the fuck you spell it)
darrenspool by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:20:29 AM
why wouldn't there be a video at the end?? it's definitely what I'd like to see, and it's also what I'd do if I had designed this campaign. or don't you think that a campaign like this oughta have some kind of payoff, instead of just "revealing" what everyone has pretty much been seing for 24 hours? oh, and... you donkey-raping shit-eater! (guess you don't understand an argument if there's no insult included)
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:21:21 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
ryanislyin by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:22:13 AM
doh
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:22:30 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:22:33 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:22:38 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:22:43 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:22:49 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:22:54 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
Don't Give Your Email! by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:23:01 AM
This is a scam!!! It is run by Domainsbyproxy.com, a known internet scam group!!!
If its real... by Dr Dischord	May 20th, 2007 11:23:36 AM
its fucking frightening.
ryanislyin by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:23:52 AM
fuck you
More Proof by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:25:08 AM
http://www.securitymanagement. com/library/Pfizer_Domain1004. pdf
KILLER CLOWNS FROM SPACE by AgainsttheStorm	May 20th, 2007 11:26:00 AM
Is it me or does he look like one of those killer clowns from that cheesy B-movie horror...
Even More... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:26:30 AM
http://www.corp.ca.gov/enf/inf o/dr/05pdf/orionventures.pdf "...is registered through Domains by Proxy, Inc. Domains by Proxy, Inc. is a company operating from 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Suite 160, in Scottsdale, Arizona. Domains by Proxy, Inc. allows domain owners to conceal their identities from the public by registering their domains in the name of Domains by Proxy, Inc."
If it was a scam by mistakeagian	May 20th, 2007 11:26:32 AM
Warner's lawyers would have shut the site down by now! Domains by proxy is a company that buys domains for people, hence "by proxy" and the site was registered after the first site. I think warner is just covering their tracks. The more talk the site stirs up the better. Remember controversy is free press!
RE: Video at the end by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 11:27:38 AM
There are no embedded javascript tags for a player, nor are there any code descriptions for a flash video file aka an SWF extension file. Sorry to disappoint, no dice on the video... oh and the registar info states the sites were registered almost 4 days apart, the supposed joker site was registered less than 24 hours after the dent site from warner brothers launched. Dent site: May 11th launched same day, Fake Joker site: May 14th, launched May 16th. IT'S FAKE
No Messi by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:27:45 AM
You have a hard-on for Nolan/Bale because you jump down the throats of anyone who doesn't love that shit as much as your sorry ass does. I'll start my mission of getting fucked by shagging your maw. And what the fuck has music got to do with fucking anything? Fucking retard...what do you listen to Happy Hardcore? Cock jockey.
If it was legit... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:29:08 AM
If it was legit, the url would have been ibelieveinharveydenttoo.warner bros.com, not ibelieveinharveydent.com. Why the fuck would WB pay a domain name registrar under the amount of litigation domainbyproxy.com is under to do something they could do themselves?
skynetbauxi by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 11:29:21 AM
Delusional garbage spewing forth from an irresponsible poster. Take it elsewhere, you monkey cum-catcher.
errrm by Kizeesh	May 20th, 2007 11:33:31 AM
You're not too up on this whole viral marketing schtick are you Ryan?
Morons, by Pagliacci	May 20th, 2007 11:33:46 AM
your bus is leaving. The site is 100% real. Check out batman-on-film.com - the creator of it, Jett, has serious connections to Warner Bros. and has confirmed it. That's Heath Ledger as The Joker.
It's not legit by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:34:03 AM
I've still had no e-mail...some bugger has seen the shit-storm the last fake caused and thought "I can do better than that!" Let's make the scars even more extreme and listen to everyone cry. That's what's happened. I'm amazed AICN fell for it really.
So why isn't Joker smiling? by Chishu_Ryu	May 20th, 2007 11:34:49 AM
That's the too milion dollar question...
Yeah.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:36:44 AM
...why isn't he smiling? It's Batman : The Dark Knight, in which Batman faces off against his arch-nemesis the Joker who is suffering from Clinical depression and launches a series of armed raids in order to meet his extortionate medical expenses.
Real by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 11:37:40 AM
Think about it, as mentioned above, if it was fake, Warner Bros would be all over their ass like you guys on Issue 1 Spiderman. Also, it only sends the email if you have Gmail, or 10 Minute mail.
and.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:38:54 AM
..why would Warner Bros launch a site that ignores Hotmail - possibly the largest e-mail client in the world?? Duuuh!
You do realise by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:40:12 AM
....That one way or the other one half of folks on here are going to look like tits when it's revealed as a fake? Or not...
fan made... by d a v 3 y	May 20th, 2007 11:40:44 AM
...but cool. http://tinyurl.com/2nkoqt
ArasinGM by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:40:47 AM
well, so there's none of that stuff on the site NOW... but they need only exchange the site with the "goal" site as soon as the image is revealed. obviously they wouldn't include anything so obvious now, but I don't really see the problem in switching two websites at a certain moment
Why They Didn't Use Hotmail by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 11:41:10 AM
It is obvious why they didn't use hotmail! If the whole thing was unvieled with in ten minutes, nobody would care! Making this long and drawn out by using less used emails makes want us to see it all the more.
Craptastic! by shogunshin	May 20th, 2007 11:42:05 AM
the first batman SUCKED, cause you could see none of the martial arts choreography. i know people loved it, but why couldn't they pull the camera back to see the kung fu? why make bale learn moves, if you are going to americanize and 'blur' the kung fu to make it seem faster? this joker sucks big time. the first batman sucked, this joker sucks, meaning, good chance im not wasting my time at the movies over this junk.
You reckon... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:42:25 AM
...they're that smart? I don't know - if they were bothered about that they could just add more pixels.
Lol... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:43:19 AM
Fine... you submit your email. Makes no difference to me. Meanwhile, I'm going to try and make people aware. I deal in this shit all day long, dude. Looking at the source code, the head tags have big differences between the two sites. For instance, the first site has no DOCTYPE defined. Also, it was created by WEBSIDESTORY, a web development house. NOW, all of the sudden, there's no mention of WEBSIDESTORY anywhere in the second site. Also, the second story adds some heavy .js, including some Visual Basic scripting. The first site has relative links that go very deep, while the second one parses CSS, JS and VB scripts one folder deep. You guys are being duped.
Watch out Shogunsin by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:43:34 AM
...you'll have messi jumping down your throat in a minute.:-)
GlenyD by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:43:39 AM
yeah, like HUGE tits (but not as hot as huge tits)... lucky that's not gonna be my half :-)
"when it's revealed as a fake? Or not..." 11:40 by TruPhan	May 20th, 2007 11:45:22 AM
"It's not legit...I'm amazed AICN fell for it really." 11:34. C'mon GlenyD, don't lose your balls and start wavering in your belief that it's fake in less than 7 minutes.
why? by rainbowtrout1265	May 20th, 2007 11:46:00 AM
"Excellent casting choice" Why? Ledger will probably mumble his words like in Brokeback.
Thank God for... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:46:07 AM
Ryanislyin, you talk some sense Sir! Good on you. It's fake there's no two ways about it. The studio are NEVER going to make something so grotesque as that as the bad-guy...I mean, come on. Get real. They're in it for the money folks, and they're not about to let a "gritty" "realistic" vision of a Director rain on their money parade...I mean Think about it for feck's sake.
To reiterate by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 11:47:52 AM
Websidestory created the first site, with relative links deep in the bowels of WB's site, and the second site drills down only one level. No mention of Websidestory on the second site. Funny, I didn't think WB would want to pay TWO companies to perform their viral marketing. Oh, and it's Sunday. Maybe WB's lawyers are asleep in bed, because WB didn't expect to have to monitor any marketing moves today.
as bad as GINO by rainbowtrout1265	May 20th, 2007 11:47:53 AM
This Joker look is about as good as the Americanized Godzilla when compared to the Toho original.
Not wavering yet... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:48:12 AM
TruPHan...I fell for it initially I must admit, with the "Oh Fuck!!!" response...but not now i've had a think about it.:-) huge tits are pretty hot....Hopefully it'll be a video of some of them playing at the end. hahaha.
GlenyD by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:49:00 AM
stupid argument... like you (or anyone else) isn't gonna see the movie with THIS Joker in it? it's gonna make huge money, whether it has a grotesque Joker in it or not, and the studio knows it
AICN got titted by TruPhan	May 20th, 2007 11:50:35 AM
I'd like to see that headline.
video of the Joker AND huge tits maybe? by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:51:13 AM
then we'd all be happy :-)
Further proof by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 11:51:28 AM
Gmail works because it's spam filter is subjective, it lets you choose who to mark as spam. Hotmail and most other email providers block spam using what's called a path reader. the email address s just a visible address, the email is actually coming form a server that hotmail/yahoo/ etc have marked as a spam DB. They also include interactive spam filters, but not as subjective as GMail. 10minutemail works because it has no spam filter... why put a spam filter on an email address that's only gonna exist for 10 minutes? As for the video, yes, they would have to because any designer knows the precusros would have to be there before you posted a flash video file simply because uploading another site on top of a current one = downtime. You have to point to the video once the server has the file. Otherwise no dice on it playing. And if it has some invisible "Goal" site trigger as you stated, it would be in the code already to switch over, and nothing is there.
NOT a stupid argument... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:52:12 AM
You do realise of course how much Cash the studios rake in from toys/game and other merchandising don't you? You do realise who buys that stuff don't you? Kids - that's who, and occasionally fanboys...There is no way on God's Green Earth that they're going to have a guy with grotesque holes in his cheeks as a Mattel action figure. It's just not going to happen. Studios can drop an idea in an instant; believe me, if it's going to reduce sales of anything relating to the film it's just not happening....so my argument stands I think.
And one more thing by ArasinGM	May 20th, 2007 11:53:58 AM
And exactly how is Warner gonna take the site down when the friggin FBI can't serve these DomainsByProxy guys with a cease and desist?
And the Joker.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:54:31 AM
..Laughing and dancing around a room full of massively breasted naked women would truly be genius...Total genius.:-p hehehe
ArasinGM by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 11:56:17 AM
DOWNTIME?? replacing one html file with another on the server... let me think, that takes my own web server about 10 milliseconds... that's some terrible downtime! lol
It's odd.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 11:58:58 AM
..that there hasn't been an "old school" style fake yet.... I wonder if Warner is publishing this stuff deliberatly just to get people all worked up and annoyed and then have them all relieved when it turns out not to be the case? Wouldn't put it past them.
True, ArasinGM... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 12:00:10 PM
But AICN can perform some due diligence, and protect the users of their site by actually investigating hosted content. By COB today, this will either be retracted or other media outlets will realize it is a scam.
GlenyD by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 12:00:55 PM
true, that would be total genius :-D sure, your action figure argument kinda stands... however, what action figures were there in BB? except Batman and maybe Scarecrow, I don't think any of the characters would be very interesting to children... "coool, I got a mob boss! you don't stand a chance with your asian looking guy who isn't really Ra's Al Ghul anyway!"
Logic goes put the window. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:01:13 PM
I am having a grand time reading the many moods of Talkback. For every ridiculous leap of logic, there's a deafening crescendo of petty and childish insults. Keep it coming. I'm sick in bed and need to be entertained. I believe this is a legitimate Warner Bros. venture. One of the things that Spider-Man 3 taught the studious is More is Better. By the time the film was in the theaters, Sony had released a mountain of footage and material, and people still went in record numbers. I predict The Dark Knight will usher in a new era in film marketing. I predict books will be written on the subject. I predict awards will be presented and careers will be made.
Logic goes out the window. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:01:23 PM
I am having a grand time reading the many moods of Talkback. For every ridiculous leap of logic, there's a deafening crescendo of petty and childish insults. Keep it coming. I'm sick in bed and need to be entertained. I believe this is a legitimate Warner Bros. venture. One of the things that Spider-Man 3 taught the studious is More is Better. By the time the film was in the theaters, Sony had released a mountain of footage and material, and people still went in record numbers. I predict The Dark Knight will usher in a new era in film marketing. I predict books will be written on the subject. I predict awards will be presented and careers will be made.
Smeared lipstick looks like the Anna Nicole Smith vid by briantag	May 20th, 2007 12:02:53 PM
Heath gotta eat.
Hehehe by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:04:10 PM
yeah, there weren't many great characters for figures from the first film, but they did produce loads and loads of toys. I remember seeing them in the back of an ARGOS catalogue (Brit store) not sure if it's in America. They had scarecrow, and Raz etc. I'm pretty sure they had the escaped nutters etc too. :-) I can just picture kids unwrapping that version of the Joker on Christmas morning...hahahaha, "ARghghghgh, Waaaaah! Mummmmm, I'm scared"..they'd have to go into therapy after that.:-)
MARILYN MANSON by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR	May 20th, 2007 12:04:38 PM
JUST SAYIN....
Smeared lipstick looks like the Anna Nicole Smith vid by briantag	May 20th, 2007 12:05:43 PM
Heath gotta eat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =A_L7QaS-R3k
True, no parent will gonna buy a figurine of this Joker by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 12:06:30 PM
for obvious reasons! It's too gruesome.
Bronx Schmuck by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 12:07:43 PM
Just because you can pull up an Internet Explorer window doesn't mean you understand what's happening. WB all of the sudden started using GoDaddy as their registrar? WTF kind of logic is that?
sigh.. youtube links work for shit by briantag	May 20th, 2007 12:08:29 PM
Not that anyone cares, but it's anna nicole crazy clown shower, scroll down this page. whatever, the joke's over. http://www.youtube.com/results ?search_query=anna+nicole+smit h+clown
Well by mistakeagian	May 20th, 2007 12:08:40 PM
Batman-on-film .com and comingsoon .net have fallen for it, so I am not seeing many sites decrying this a a fake. If aintitcool is being duped other sources are too.
Funny... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 12:09:36 PM
But the first site was registered by MARKMONITOR INC. It's a scam, guys.
getting closer by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 12:13:00 PM
just about 1000 to 2000 pixels left, I'd guess: http://www.avi-film.com/joker2 3.jpg
I just.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:16:23 PM
..looked at that Batman on Film site, from the way it's written it sounds like the guy who did that site made the picture we see here today! He says, "Well, what do you think?" then the pic, then " I think I pretty much nailed it!;-)" Is this where all this stuff has stemmed from? I can't see the bit where he claims it's from the film though...... G
Warners can go out and hire subcontractors, by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:18:11 PM
who then can go hire their own vendors. The argument that all their lawyers are sleeping and they can't possibly deal with copyright infringement on a weekend is silly. At the very least, even if all their lawyers are in suspended animation, they might release a statement declaring this other site to be fraudulent, or they could just let it go because it's getting them free promotion. Have you people seen the toys sold these days? If there are Freddy Kruger dolls, costumes, etc, then why is this Joker such a stretch? There are untold numbers of toys made and sold with questionable taste. I think the site's legitimately tied-in with the film, but if it's not, good on them for pulling such an elaborate hoax. The character design is close to what I would expect anyway. Joker is a loon, a dangerous psychopath. He's going to be scary, frightening. Okay, you can get back to the name-calling.
Possible... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:20:31 PM
..but you don't usually see Kruger dolls in national retail outlets, mainly they are made in the fixed-pose exclusive fan-boy doll style. You know the ones I mean. I think it would be very brave of them to go with this look for obvious reasons but I somehow don't see them having the "cojones" to go through with it...Having looked into this look I am going to have to get Grant Morrison's batman books. Should be great.
Black Mask? by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu	May 20th, 2007 12:22:23 PM
I read awhile ago that Black Mask was also going to feature as a villain (along with Maroni to set-up the Long Halloween courtroom sequence where Dent gets acid thrown in his face). Is it possible that the whole Joker getting a mask burned into his face with acid is confusion with Black Mask or has new shit come to light? (with apologies to Lebowski)
Of course it's real. No one by skipbrilliantine	May 20th, 2007 12:22:26 PM
Of course it's real. No one spends this much money on a hoax, and email addresses aren't that valuable. This is just one shot (a TEASER shot) of the Joker... do you really think the action figures will end up looking this grotesque, anyway? Those scars will measure about 2 millimeters each on tiny plastic heads. Fucking relax. If you saw the first film and know anything about Nolan, you should have expected the Joker to look something like this.
Skiprat1 by WolfmanNards	May 20th, 2007 12:23:37 PM
I don't have the evidence, but I'm pretty sure heath ledgers foreign origins gave him an advantage over the choice of the role of the joker in Nolan's Eyes.
I'm not bothered by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:24:12 PM
..if they go with this look..I just think it's unlikely at the moment. You're right the scars would be minimised on the dolls....good my shares are safe. Hehehehe.
Joker from the Batman Beyond movie gave nightmares by TruPhan	May 20th, 2007 12:24:34 PM
to my girlfriend. It was very well-received by fans. Mark Hammill hated that version of Joker though because he was so not over the top like he had previously played him. I imagine this is the same Joker that Nolan wants. ...a Joker that Mark Hammill can hate.
It's Real! It's Fake! It's REAL! It's FAKE! by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:24:37 PM
It's real. It's fake. It's real. It's fake. It's real. It's real. It's fake. It's real. It's fake. Real...Fake....REAL!....FAKE!. .... REAL FAKE! REAL FAKE!...wait
I like it ! by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 12:24:53 PM
It's certainly "different", but in a good way. He looks like a fucking psychopath. I hope he will be as dark in the movie as the pic suggests !
Read this TOTAL contradiction on BOF... by darrenspool	May 20th, 2007 12:26:41 PM
http://www.batman-on-film.com/ opinion_hold-off-on-that-Joker -picture_jett_2007.html
Skip... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 12:26:43 PM
How much money do you think it costs to create this hoax? I'd say $5.00 on hosting, about 2 hours invested in Flash, and configuring their databases to accept a flood of emails. Who gives a rat's ass about toys? I never mentioned them. They're for children. I'm talking about web hoaxes, not toys.
Twas me by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:28:13 PM
Who mentioned the toys....Hahahaha..Heeehehehehe ehe, ahahahhahahahaaa....Getting carried away sorry, ahahahahaahaahahah.....ahehehe hehee. etc
Perhaps Nolan goes with many non-Americans by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:29:00 PM
because there aren't many great American actors? Or perhaps it's to give his films a broader appeal to the global market? Or perhaps--and this is nuts, so go with me on this one!--perhaps he casts his films with the actors that seem best suited for the roles, and those he is confident he can work well with, because it's a collaborative art. All of this concern about Nolan casting "foreigners" is embarrassing. We're all foreigners to someone.
If he could not only be a by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 12:29:45 PM
If he could not only be a dark psychopath, but also some kind of a tough adversary in a final hand to hand fight with the bat, that would definetly get me off. Let The Joker give Batman a good beating, yeah !
Did they do hansocorportation.abc.com? by jimmy_009	May 20th, 2007 12:30:10 PM
Uh...obviously not.
It won't be 'coz of a Batarang? by PrezMike	May 20th, 2007 12:31:00 PM
Let's hope it has nothing to do with Batman, I'd rather not have another Joker origin because of Bats
Scars on Joker's face=Flames on Optimus by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:32:21 PM
I just got off the phone with Christopher Nolan... He says the Joker face is disturbing, but he looked over and saw Kurt Russell laughing, so it's cool.
Um... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 12:35:33 PM
I guess Harvey Dent has the WB as a major campaign sponsor then.
darrenspool, that's a month old. It refers to the mess by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:38:01 PM
this very site got into over those fake Joker pics. Or am I missing something? In the other article, this new image is mentioned as part of a greater whole, the ad campaign, and as an example of the often contradictory fanboy reaction to new takes on source material.
ryanislyin, by skipbrilliantine	May 20th, 2007 12:38:06 PM
handling that flood of emails at ALL indicates a level of server commitment unlikely to arise from an illegal prank. And unless you think that's not really Heath Ledger in the pic, where did the hoaxers get this sneak peek? Do you think both the site and the pic are hoaxes?
ryanislyin by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 12:39:08 PM
didn't you notice there's a considerable amount of graphic design and motion graphics animation in this "hoax"? I work in that same industry, and just to create all the graphics and animation (let alone the flash programming behind it) I'd charge at least 2000 euros (that's almost 3000 us dollars)
Here's a Joker for all the purists: by Toxic Frog	May 20th, 2007 12:41:02 PM
http://tinyurl.com/32l2tj
Remind me.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:43:25 PM
..not to get you to do my website then! hahahaha, Not that I have a website. But if I did, you know? I'm sure a clever fan with some time on his hands could figure out a way to do that site.
Just because it would take time and money etc by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:44:05 PM
doesn't automatically give it credibility. Scams and phishers go to great lengths to land a few victims. That said, it's a legit site. Why do I think so?
A gun pointed on his cheek.... BAMMM ! by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 12:45:09 PM
and the bullet goes through the mouth, exits through the other cheek. He pisses and pukes blood everywhere, laughing hysterically coz he's already half fucked up in his brain, lol.
SPOILER! I know how The Dark Knight ends. by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 12:46:23 PM
Two fat kids chest bump Batman. His chest collapses, and he goes into the hospital. The Joker hires Michael Bay to finish him off. Bay goes to Batman's hospital room, and plays Pearl Harbor on DVD. Batman calls Clint Eastwood to pull the plug.
If it's legit... by ryanislyin	May 20th, 2007 12:46:59 PM
I'll take my hat in my hand and quit posting. Maybe the pic is real, in which case it's the "motherload" if someone created the site to scrape emails. It's something everybody wants to see.
ryanislyin by torgosPizza	May 20th, 2007 12:47:47 PM
darren, that article was from April. and ryanislyin, did you forget about the rubber-stamped "I believe in Harvey Dent TOO" cards that showed up? It's a viral marketing campaign, just like the Aqua Teens Crisis of 2006. No hoaxer would go to such great lengths.
I'm just going to wait now... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:49:36 PM
..until the truth "outs". I'm sure it'll be a fake that will be admitted to in due course, but there's really not much point in continuing the debate here much longer. I mean it either is or it isn't, and at the end of the day, what does it matter really? Not alot. It's just a movie after all...let's hope it's a good one!
GlenyD restores reason to the madhouse. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 12:52:14 PM
Thank you.
No Problem Bronx by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:53:22 PM
Anytime. :-)
GlenyD by torgosPizza	May 20th, 2007 12:54:02 PM
You're right! I'm still looking forward to it. Even if it is a hoax, it makes me want to see it more!
compare the noses etc. by skipbrilliantine	May 20th, 2007 12:55:42 PM
This is Heath: http://www.fazeteen.com/pipeli ne/images/heath.jpg (remove any spaces) ...and the pic is him. If it's not official, someone's been working on the pic and the site together for a long time.
I'm looking forward to it too... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 12:58:12 PM
...even though I didn't fall in love with Begins, I reckon it could be fantastic. You just never can tell. Fingers crossed. As long as they don't introduce Batman's kid they should be on to a money-spinner. Hahaha. Even if they do they'll still make money no doubt.
Will this Joker Makeup deem a PG-13 rating?? by Otter	May 20th, 2007 12:59:49 PM
I mean, the heavy scarring due to flesh being rendered is more like R rated material. Also, everytime he opens his mouth or smiles, those scars are going to open wide and bleed; won't the MPAA have an issue with that??
@torgospizza by RedClover9	May 20th, 2007 01:00:33 PM
Who said they were stamped? Did you see the pics? They were not stamped. And funny that they only arrived at ONE single store in the whole country. Hmm...
I still think this is a legit pic. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 01:00:44 PM
I don't know why some think it's a fraud... http://tinyurl.com/2jumnc
Well, I don't know... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 01:01:40 PM
...studios are funny about those kinds of things. They like to protect their investments and they can be very controlling. They're not averse to kicking people off projects if they take something in a direction they feel is too "out there", it's happened in the past. I wouldn't underestimate their anal-ness when it comes to marketing.
fake or no fake... by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 01:02:02 PM
this was fun :-) and we're getting REALLY close now! http://www.avi-film.com/joker2 4.jpg those last few pixels are gonna fall in no time... guess I underestimated people's will to pull this through :-) by the way, I don't intend to soften my position now, so I say firmly: NO FAKE! :-)
Scared for life=REVENGE by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 01:04:44 PM
Bruce Wayne and Jack Napier were out camping one chilly night, and Bruce tells Jack to get into the tent because it's too cold outside. Jack does, but while he's sleeping in the tent, Bruce puts his arm around him. Jack gets really upset.He suddenly pulls down Bruce's pants, and starts the scaring process. Bruce becomes obsessed with Jack, and admits to him that he 'can't quit him'.
Hahahah by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 01:05:02 PM
@Bronx...now that is More like it Sir! Good job, that must have taken ageees. hehehehe
It's telling when people hate this pseudo-Joker so much by JackPumpkinhead	May 20th, 2007 01:10:03 PM
that they start creating conspiracy theories about a hoax. Hear that, Nolan? Hey, how about adding several more "realistic touches": have Batman's ribs broken from the impact when the armor deflects bullets fired at him, have the Hulkhoganmobile trip over when it cuts a sharp corner, with Batman calling for road assistance? Oh yeah, how about this realistic touch: have Alfred NOT SPEAK LIKE A FUCKING COCKNEY!
the REAL question right now is... by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 01:10:06 PM
who gets the final pixel?
I hired skynetbauxi for $3000. Nice, huh? by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 01:14:54 PM
Now, everyone give me yer emails!
"There is no trick. It's real." by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 01:15:00 PM
Great movie
lost.rules is onto something by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 01:17:30 PM
Let's not forget who we're dealing with. Nolan has taken the relationship between viewer and film to a new level. "The Prestige" is proof of that. I think only good things will come of his involvement with Batman.
LOL!!! First Pixel in Eckhart's Chin Each Time! by topper44	May 20th, 2007 01:18:14 PM
i love how the first square that appears, each time it loads, is dead center in that magnificent cleft in Eckhart's chin!! LOL!!! there's no way that's a coincidence. Eckhart's chin owns all of you and your mothers!!!
LOL!!! First Pixel in Eckhart's Chin Each Time! by topper44	May 20th, 2007 01:18:46 PM
i love how the first square that appears, each time it loads, is dead center in that magnificent cleft in Eckhart's chin!! LOL!!! there's no way that's a coincidence. Eckhart's chin owns all of you and your mothers!!!
Let's hope it's rated R!! by Evil Hobbit	May 20th, 2007 01:21:45 PM
That would be awesome.
Echrat's Chin is My Daddy. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 01:22:38 PM
Papa!
jfp2006 by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 01:24:59 PM
yeah, sure... so which page of the Guiness Book of World Records are you on as the fastest designer on the planet?
JOKER PICS!type www.batmanscmartist.com by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 01:25:53 PM
Just type in your e-mail, social security number, credit card number, and address....and then you're going get some sweet, sweet Joker pics!
Evil Hobbit by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 01:26:43 PM
sure, since the current trend is making R-rated sequels to PG-13-rated movies... oh wait...
Yeah... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 01:29:59 PM
....perhaps you're right on the toys thing. Still, I don't know if it's real. Didn't think that one through to completion. Hahaha, Anakin was pushing it mind you in the toys department, but then it was Star Wars.....bigger deal....hmmm, bigger appeal for the toys also.
10minutemail by mistakeagian	May 20th, 2007 01:31:07 PM
Hmmm, everytime I use 10minutemail now I get the "Trying to cheat, a cheater" message now. I used it like 15 times last night, but now it no worky...
weirldy by lionbiu	May 20th, 2007 01:32:16 PM
I love this joker. Now I admit I was not in love with Batman Begins...I think it was a great movie made decent by terrible MTV style editing, a silly doomsday plot which had a huge gaping hole in it and some melodrama whihc was a little heavy handed. Still its one of the best (if not the best) comic book movies ever made. I do hope they iron out the problems from the first (CUT OUT THE FUCKING MTV ACTION SEQUNCES) and I would love this to be rated R. I know it aint happening, but I think the movie would benefit greatly from a darker approach.
I'm gonna go carve... by Pagliacci	May 20th, 2007 01:33:52 PM
up my face, then go to the local movie theater and start a line for TDK. I should probably bring a towel what with all the blood and whatnot.
I don't buy it by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 01:35:07 PM
There's something about this that dosen't hold water - call it a gut feeling...I do not see why DC would allow one of their oldest - not to mention most lucartive - characters get mutilated - pardon the pun - like that...even the recent "re-envisioning" - if that's the proper term - of the Joker in the books ain't nearly this gory. As for the bit about Toys...well, unfortunately, major films like this do need marketing tie-ins. THAT face on a t-shirt? Ummm, won't fly. I still think it's a sham, but, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? Slick marketing if it's true, and, if not, some people need to trun their energies to more productive ideals. Still clever, though...
Damn you PG-13! by lost.rules	May 20th, 2007 01:36:31 PM
I want the X-rated Batman! Batman pounds Viki Vale. Catwoman straddles Batman and rides him like a horse! Poison Ivy.....oh......sweet poison pussy! Batman can't get enough!
I guess the haters... by Pagliacci	May 20th, 2007 01:45:47 PM
wanted something more cartoony, ala the Spiderman trilogy or Star Wars! Sorry this is too scary for you.
I think it's by HessenRoots	May 20th, 2007 01:48:40 PM
Clever...fake but clever. The HarveyDentToo.com was created 3 days after the actual WarnerBros domain site, I don't buy it. If that is an official pic WarnerBros must really be scraping the barrel for Photoshop artists, you'd think they could do better. Heck maybe it's even a fake pic released by them just to keep up the buzz until a trailer hits.
i think it's a good idea. by occula	May 20th, 2007 01:51:03 PM
that face is, like, real arkham asylum scary. like, dave mckean scribbly dark. i think nolan didn't even go dark enuf the first time in dealing with the asylum. but i just watched 'memento' last night for the first time in years and it has reaffirmed my faith in his mad skills.
Honestly.... by avs28785	May 20th, 2007 01:53:43 PM
they are just fucking emails..... Oh no! we got more spam mail. It would be a fucking waste of time just to scam people out of their emails so they can send junk mail. Junk mail we never look at and delete instantly. I have complete trust of the man over at Batman-On-Film. If he says its a real pic its a real pic. I personally love the way Joker looks. Its different. And for that toy arguement, seriously they can change the way the toy looks. They made scarecrow's mask orange because they were toning it down for the kids. And Batman Begins wasn't for kiddies. Kids sat for at least an hour bored out of their minds cuz they had no idea what was going on. TDK wont be for kiddies either. I am ready for this movie to fucking kick my ass.
this just keeps getting worse by acebandage	May 20th, 2007 01:54:35 PM
This is just about the last straw! I had a lot of hope for this movie but that was just flushed by the piece of shit I just saw that was the pic of the "Joker". I LOVE Batman Begins! It was spot on! I love the casting in it! That was one of the best things about that movie. I love the casting of Harvey Dent. I was SOOOO displeased by the casting of Heath Ledger as the Joker that I ALMOST gave up hope on this movie, but I retained a glimmer of hope based on how well Nolan did on the last one. If he could portray the Joker's character correctly, I am sure Heath Leger will be OK in the role. Not perfect but passable. Seeing this image I have just given up all hope. This is proof that they are NOT going to portray the Joker in this movie. This shit makes me sad AND makes me want to vommit with rage at what could have been the greatest Batman series of movies EVER! SOOOOO DISAPPOINTING!
this just keeps getting worse by acebandage	May 20th, 2007 01:54:43 PM
This is just about the last straw! I had a lot of hope for this movie but that was just flushed by the piece of shit I just saw that was the pic of the "Joker". I LOVE Batman Begins! It was spot on! I love the casting in it! That was one of the best things about that movie. I love the casting of Harvey Dent. I was SOOOO displeased by the casting of Heath Ledger as the Joker that I ALMOST gave up hope on this movie, but I retained a glimmer of hope based on how well Nolan did on the last one. If he could portray the Joker's character correctly, I am sure Heath Leger will be OK in the role. Not perfect but passable. Seeing this image I have just given up all hope. This is proof that they are NOT going to portray the Joker in this movie. This shit makes me sad AND makes me want to vommit with rage at what could have been the greatest Batman series of movies EVER! SOOOOO DISAPPOINTING!
Sad by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 01:56:36 PM
Acebandage you are sad. Get a life.
Messi... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 01:57:15 PM
I said Interpol because I was thinking he'd kind of look like Carlos D. Lazy, I know. And I love Aussie accents, even though the only Aussie I ever met was a total dumb fuck; he went the typical route of saying that rugby players are tougher than American football players...which would be true, if professional rugby players could step on the field with NFL players without getting paralyzed on every play.
sorry about the double post by acebandage	May 20th, 2007 01:57:38 PM
That's all...just wanted to apologize for that.
Sweet! by kyle051554	May 20th, 2007 01:58:15 PM
This Joker looks like a badass. Can't wait for THE DARK KNIGHT.
10minutemail by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:00:34 PM
still works perfect for me... I use it on 3 different browsers simultaneously, so I do almost 3 pixels per 10 minutes, yay! :-)
Night of the Living Kris by acebandage	May 20th, 2007 02:02:40 PM
What do you mean? Why do you say that I'm sad and need to get a life?
re: Batman Forever by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:03:52 PM
I read earlier that someone wanted the batmobile back from Batman Forever? You think that this Joker is going against the Batman mythos, yet you want something from Batman Forever brought back? The movie that turned Harvey Dent into a hyper-kinetic cackling jackal? This Joker looks like what he's become: A pure case of anti-social personality disorder. Which I guess is okay, if you want to base your character in this movie on a guy that feeds poisoned cotton candy to Boy Scouts. Yeah, it kind of looks like this guy would do that. I think it looks awesome and anyone that wants to bring back shit from Forever should drink bleach.
all together now, one last time! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:04:01 PM
come on, guys! just a few puny pixels left! get em!
it might be fake because.... by Bouncy X	May 20th, 2007 02:04:28 PM
that looks like a very similar shot of his face from a magazine, the wya his face is tilted and everything...so it might be a photoshopped image...but if its not, oh well
I agree on Ledger by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 02:05:14 PM
This was really a VERY poor casting choice...I do not care what Hollywood says, or the critics say, or whatever nomination he got...he's a lousy actor, and if that is the make-up he's in? R.I.P.
Are you hoping by avs28785	May 20th, 2007 02:05:53 PM
for Burtons vision of the JOker? Or Cesar's Joker? Dude that is not that joker. The joker is a pyschotic serial killer. Just because his image isn't what you expected, you jump on the bitch bus. And what did u really expect coming from a Nolan film? I really want to know.
See, knew I was right about the red streaks on the head by chrth	May 20th, 2007 02:11:30 PM
Photoshop mistake, the true image is all white.
The Joker is not a psychotic serial killer by acebandage	May 20th, 2007 02:13:51 PM
The Joker is a derranged and dangerously disconnected sociopath, but he is not as base or as simple as a serial killer. The Joker derives no pleasure from killing or maiming, his pleasure derives from the overall plan that he concieves and is completely out of touch with reality to a point where the killing means NOTHING to him. He has no joy or passion or other emotion about killing. and he should appear ridiculous physically, not gruesome.
the scarrng should be MORE intense by Mogwai Democracy	May 20th, 2007 02:14:59 PM
I like the direction they're going in, and I think that is a freaky image, but I think they wimped out on his appearance. I would have mad e his mouth cut open all the way from cheekbone to cheekbone, with his teeth exposed all the way back on either side. Yeah, that probably would have shot their PG-13 rating all to hell, but it would have been intense & made the Joker look like he was SMILING. This Joker just has a couple of holes in the side of his mouth and, even with the lipstick, doesn't give the impression of having that maniacal grin.
The Joker should be scary. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 02:15:42 PM
I peed my pants when I saw him.
Im a fucking tard. by avs28785	May 20th, 2007 02:16:43 PM
My previous post was directed to you Acebandage.
The Joker version.... by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 02:19:40 PM
...Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The more I look at it, the more I dig it. But the haircut may fuck up the whole thing.
I think it resembles John Wayne Gacy by Doctor_Sin	May 20th, 2007 02:19:41 PM
Very cool. imo.
Once Again Fanboys Jump to Conclusions by NHRonin	May 20th, 2007 02:20:24 PM
Whah, Dark Knight will completely suck because of an unconfirmed picture I saw on the internet. Wah, Spiderman will suck because of organic webshooters. Wah, Transformers will suck because of flames on Optimus. Wah, Mommy ruined my Superman t-shirt in the laundry. You clowns are pathetic.
Re: pyschotic serial killer by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:21:53 PM
A serial killer doens't need to "derive" pleasure from killing people; he just needs to kill alot of people. Also, killing means nothing to a person suffering from anti-social personality disorder because they don't care about anything. They cannot feel empahty. They cannot decide on a life plan or plan ahead for the future. They repeatedly engage in activities that they can be arrested for...and so on and so forth. The Joker is the most extreme example of a person with anti-social, and as a byproduct of that, he's a serial killer as well.
Colonel Activity by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:25:39 PM
I think that would be a mass murder. I'd say that serial killers do derive some kind pleasure from the killing... that's why they do it, after all
Joker image -- almost hope it's fake by jorson2	May 20th, 2007 02:28:23 PM
That image Moriarty forwarded appeared the first time I went to the site and before I ever even put my e-mail address in. If it is real, it figures -- the sort of dopey glam-queen expression with goth makeup under the eyes is about what I'd expect from an actor like Ledger in this role. He's not even smiling -- at all! The stuff about it being all about the eyes and not the smile -- BS. If he doesn't smile, why call him Joker? I really like BATMAN BEGINS -- the stuff about the lisping is something I really don't get -- but I'm worried about this one. I'm worried that Nolan's "realistic" approach isn't going to work so well with such an unrealistic (image-wise) villain like The Joker, and with a villain like that, well, the whole movie is going to rest on how much Ledger sells The Joker.
mass murderer by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:28:26 PM
was what I meant
re: Heath Ledger by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:28:35 PM
I think he'll work for the directin they're going, but going in a different direction, does anyone remember when they were thinking about casting Steve Carrell? Wow, could you imagine him with this make-up? Can anyone give me their thoughts on what his take on the role would be? And if you don't look Ledger, then who would you rather see in the role? And don't say Glover, because it would have never happened. Me? I always thought that Bettany would have been good. He has charisma and a shark's grin; plus he's lanky...any other thoughts?
So he won't be white skinned.. by ajtk210	May 20th, 2007 02:30:25 PM
Just wear makeup to cover the scars he has...:(
So he won't be white skinned.. by ajtk210	May 20th, 2007 02:30:26 PM
Just wear makeup to cover the scars he has...:(
So he won't be white skinned.. by ajtk210	May 20th, 2007 02:30:29 PM
Just wear makeup to cover the scars he has...:(
Hate to burst both your bubbles by fluffybunnywhiskers	May 20th, 2007 02:31:10 PM
Skynet and Colonel, but the terms "mass murderer" and "serial killer" have no psychological requirements at all. The only requirement to being a "mass murderer" is to kill a large group of people at a time. The identifying factor of a "serial killer" is to kill a lot of people, over time. A mass murderer can be a serial killer, but most serial killers aren't mass murderers unless they kill a group of people at some point... no psychological requirements are attributed to these titles because every serial killer is different. A person who lacks empathy is called a "sociopath", skynet.
Poetic Warrior by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 02:31:15 PM
Wow, are you still stuck on goofs from Batman Begins? To have such an obsession is pretty pathetic. Maybe it is time to turn of the computer, and go outside? Wow, what a loser.
wtf- the Dent page wont pixelate... by samsquanch	May 20th, 2007 02:32:05 PM
all I'm getting is the Dent poster with the black eyes, no Joker image underneath. I'm going to have a tantrum.
The Crow.... by goatfever2007	May 20th, 2007 02:32:24 PM
The Crow is the new Joker?
godfuckindamn by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:32:30 PM
now it seems I can't reveal any pixels anymore... always get the "trying to cheat a cheater" message... can anyone still do it?
Heath Ledger by BrightEyes	May 20th, 2007 02:32:44 PM
Why are you guys making such a big deal hes the perfect Joker, Have you ever seen a movie he has made or do you just knowhe was in Brokeback mountain so you dont like him, I think its clear he could play Joker from Watching Lords of Dogtown not a great movie but he was the best thing about it, hes crazy and serious at the same time. Watch his performance in that movie and stop crying, hell I could name all his great movies but somehow I doubt that will make a difference to you opposed to him, if your gonna give up on the dark night than just do it and stop Bitching about doing it.
Viral Marketing Company. by Mal Carne	May 20th, 2007 02:34:38 PM
WB wouldn't handle a promotion like this "in house"; they'd subcontract it out to a company that specialized in "viral marketing". Who might take a few days to finalize the ad and use a company that files off domain ownership, becuase A) it's what the Joker would do and B) They're used to and familiar with that sort of thing. The actual photo that we can now see has no Photoshop distortion. I'm betting on legit.
fluffybunnywhiskers by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:34:47 PM
I see, didn't know that, thanks!
Serial Killer by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:34:51 PM
The criteria is that they kill three or more people. That's it. The whole "deriving pleasure" archetype of serial killers is from fiction. That is known as an expicitly morbid type of serial killer. The Joker, in reality, would fall under the subtype of Hedonistic serial killer, but he is also just a pure criminal. The fact that he kills so many people makes him a serial killer by proxy, where the most pure diagnosis of his mind would be simply that he has antisocial pesonality disorder...in the most extreme variation of the disorder.
I like it by SexyBeast	May 20th, 2007 02:35:05 PM
I'm on board with this newest incarnation of the joker. I hope he has green hair though.
ah, never mind by samsquanch	May 20th, 2007 02:35:38 PM
I scrolled up. I reserve judgement. Who know? This could work, but a Joker without a maniacal grin doesn't seem like a Joker to me.
Fanboy by 30Plus Darknight	May 20th, 2007 02:36:01 PM
I'm a total fanboy... and I love this incarnation of the Joker. Personally, I enjoyed some of the bogus pics that surfaces but I really like this take on Joker. To bring the Joker into Nolan's Batman universe, I think the scarred, disfigured smile will work great. I hope he's scary as hell and disturbing. I was really bummed when alot of Nolans visions for 'stage 2' of the Scarecrow transformation were cut to keep the rating it got (hopefully they'll release it into a directors cut or something) and I hope this looks even more frightening on screen... I'm all for this version and I have great faith in the team that's making this flick!! [30+]Darknight
samsquanch: just hit F5 by chrth	May 20th, 2007 02:36:38 PM
Sometimes it doesn't pixellate correctly, you have to refresh
so you're saying... by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:37:13 PM
he's a wacko who kills a lot of people, heh
Jorson2, what the heck was so real about the Batman? by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 02:37:18 PM
I mean, I love the character, and thought BB was a good film, but to argue that Nolan will have trouble adapting the Joker into his reality-based film, well, I'd like to propose that Batman is hardly a realistic figure. Just as they created a plausible reality for Batman etc, I expect they'll handle the task of bringing the Joker to the screen. Nolan has done a great job of grounding the film in a recognizable world, but I watch Batman movies to see his world, and his world had a bunch of freaks running around in it. The Joker will fit right in.
The Grin by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:38:28 PM
I think that Ledger has a great smile for this. Imagine Ledger's smile with the scaring added...it's going to look great.
BrightEyes- bit of advice by samsquanch	May 20th, 2007 02:39:36 PM
Text is such an impersonal medium, try to use punctuation, it makes all the difference. Without it, you come off sounding like an angry victim of Down's syndrome on cocaine.
finish it! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 02:40:41 PM
I'm counting about 70 pixels left
Much better than any cmoic book origin by Doctor_Sin	May 20th, 2007 02:40:46 PM
I mean, come on - falling in chemicals that dye different parts of his body different colors? AND instills in him a fetishistic obsession with clowns, clown imagery, and pranks??? This will GUARANTEED be the best Joker ever. I'll be in the TB when you haters eat "crow."
Damn typos - I meant "comic." by Doctor_Sin	May 20th, 2007 02:41:34 PM
The point remains valid, though.
Hey, I know who that is! by Mel Garga	May 20th, 2007 02:43:15 PM
It's funnyman Bobcat Goldthwait. He's a stitch.
I consider myself a Batman by a rolling stone	May 20th, 2007 02:44:11 PM
I consider myself a Batman purist and I have nooo trouble with this. The Joker is no joke. He's a bad man, scary enough to be up there with Jason and Leatherface. You do not want to cross paths with the Joker, and this picture conveys that. The Joker should be horror. A gashed-up face is horror. I love it. I hear angels singing. Now let's pixel-fuck the left side of Arron's face.
Im horrible with grammer and by BrightEyes	May 20th, 2007 02:44:35 PM
Im horrible with grammer and punctuation so I cant really argue when it comes to that but honestly people fighting over Joker being psychotic vs joker being deranged is a bit, no it's just ridiculous.
Thanks fluffy by avs28785	May 20th, 2007 02:45:09 PM
I did make the mistake of saying pyschotic. I didn't mean that, it seams i am so used to saying psychotic serial killer i just typed it. Dont ask. Yes one hundred percent what bunny said. Anyway you put it Joker is a serial killer. That is fucking scary. And Acebandage you want him riduculous looking..... but you enjoyed the BB with the realistic approach. Do you think that add something ridiculous looking into the Nolan movies. I want to be scared of Joker not fucking laugh at the way he appears on screen.
Other villains... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 02:45:54 PM
What other villains do you think will be able to fit into Nolan's "reality-based" world? When you think about it, if you take away his costume, The Riddler is just a guy with OCD that robs banks. I heard Nolan doens't think that the Penguin doesn't fit into his world...which I think is odd because I could easily see him in this reality. What villains does everyone think would work, and which does everyone think wouldn't work? Me? The Joker, Two-Face, Catwoman, and Hush are the only villains that make sense in this movie series. Think about it: A guy robs a bank and leaves a clue that he did it...what a dumbfuck.
Hhmmm... by The Dum Guy	May 20th, 2007 02:46:43 PM
I don't know, I'll wave my opinion till I understand the context of the scar(s). I do hope this signals that this will be a darker film than the first, i.e. Batman to Batman Returns.
I guess this means no "Joker Gas" or other goofiness by Doctor_Sin	May 20th, 2007 02:48:45 PM
No smile-inducing chemicals in Gotham's water supply?
can you tell i didn't sleep last night by avs28785	May 20th, 2007 02:49:12 PM
i can't type worth a damn today. I meant to say do you think that adding something ridiculous looking into the Nolan movies would work?
I think that even in a 'reality' based world.. by samsquanch	May 20th, 2007 02:52:34 PM
We could still have some fantastic characters. Maybe not full-on supervillains, but some sci-fi tech, maybe a bit of occultish magic stuff, Mr. Freeze (not the Ahnuld abortion) and Solomon Grundy come to mind.
IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO SAY WELL.... by connor187	May 20th, 2007 02:53:07 PM
You can basically go and fuck right off. All its been towards the end of this Talkback is fucking little bitchy negativity, why? it started off very positve on here then you so called fans must of seen that and thought 'shit I better get on there and act like a fucking little twat' I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion but jesus stop trying to spoil it, lifes too fucking short. Looks amazing by the way.
Nice by ikensteiner	May 20th, 2007 02:58:58 PM
One part of me is not happy about this picture of the Joker. The other is excited that the movie is going is unknown direction. Oh BB was good but I thought the camera on the fighting was a little to close. Oh and stop the fucking love interests for Bruce dammit. More sicko badguys -- less batlove and more badasskicking.
Colonel points out a key problem with these films. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 03:00:01 PM
I enjoy seeing comic book worlds on the screen, but there's an inherent problem with the source material. Most of the villains are ridiculous. The names are stupid, the costumes are laughable, and once they are translated to the big screen, it's hard to take them or the film seriously. One of my fears with the continuation of the Spider-Man films is the villains they have left to choose from. That's my opinion of course. But if these Batman films have multiple sequels, you better look forward to seeing Captain Stingaree and Film Freak in an upcoming Batman adventure.
Thanks for leading by example, connor187. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 03:01:50 PM
Have a nice day.
Is the 10 Minute Mail thing still working? by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:02:51 PM
because it isn't for me
Spider-Man villains by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 03:03:49 PM
Electro is a dipshit, but his powers would kick major ass on the big screen. Scorpion and Vulture also work. Rhino would be kick ass...there's a few left for Spidey to take on.
FINISH IT! by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:04:05 PM
there looks to be about 30 more squares... let's finish it and see what happens next!
Cheers Bronx Cheer.. by connor187	May 20th, 2007 03:04:38 PM
Good day to you sir.
Right, because obviously.... by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	May 20th, 2007 03:04:58 PM
... if the Joker isn't smiling in this particular picture, that means he never smiles at all, not ever.
Even though the image is up... by Twitchy McGee	May 20th, 2007 03:05:01 PM
...everyone who hasn't done it yet should do it. There could be more to the site than just an image.
I'd like to see them take the Spidey films and by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 03:06:00 PM
start making them using mocap. Then the entire environment would be heightened, and a man in a rhino suit wouldn't look so silly.
I WANT THE LIZARD!!!!!! by wackybantha	May 20th, 2007 03:07:52 PM
WITH A FREAKIN' LAB COAT, DAMMIT!!!
10 minute email doesn't work for me. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 03:09:06 PM
I've used my three emails. I want to see that damn thing finished. I'm hoping there's a flash movie, maybe a song and dance number...GET ME PARKER!
LIZARD!!! by wackybantha	May 20th, 2007 03:11:31 PM
AND PURPLE PANTS, TOO!!!!!!!!
About the JOKER image.... by wackybantha	May 20th, 2007 03:13:23 PM
He shouldn't apply make-up and drive at the same time.
The Dance number in Spider-Man 3 by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 03:14:35 PM
could definitely work in this movie. Think about: The Joker sees some woman he's stalking in a jazz club, he goes in and tries to woo her by playing piano, he gets up like he's going to dance, he does some intentionally horible dance moves, then he pulls out a .44 and starts blowing people away at random...laughing and dancing the whole time.
Oh... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 03:17:14 PM
and Black Mask would be pretty gnarly in this reality as well.
I am man enough to admit that there a couple of by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 03:18:02 PM
moments in BB that I found pretty intense. I was surprised to see the movie going for scares. I want them to turn the next one into a psychological fright fest, and the Joker is just the man to be the Master of Ceremonies.
Did the Joker escape from... by connor187	May 20th, 2007 03:18:04 PM
Arkham in Batman Begins? I remember Gordon talking about not picking up half the inmates then tells Batman about The Joker, but was he one of the inmates? I like to think that he was.
come on, kids by djosiana	May 20th, 2007 03:18:51 PM
So probably, if this picture is indeed real, it's not the one that would be turning up if any of us were directing the movie. I was pretty pissed about it--the Joker's my favorite character, and certainly what actually got me reading Batman comics. This picture really does look like shit. I mean I'm personally upset because what I wanted to see was some hyperstylized whatever from the comic books, a psycopathic super-fey David Bowie or something. (Awesome.) Obviously not going to happen. But come on. It's not like this interpretation is coming out of nowhere. I love the shadows. I love the lipstick. I love the scars. He's like some angry fucked-up version of Loki, which kinda makes sense anyway. This could work.
i think they've closed it.... by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:19:34 PM
put a completely new and legitimate email address in there (a college one) and i got the 'don't tryt to cheat a cheater' message. Hmm.... bastards!! there must be something we're not supposed to see yet when the thing is finished.
If it were a bit more symmetrical, by Eel O'Brian	May 20th, 2007 03:20:09 PM
the scarring would work better. On the right side of Ledger's face it seems to be curved into a smile-like shape, while the left side it's just a circular lump of flesh. I know making the sides match a little more wouldn't be "realistic" scarring, but we are talking about a series of movies where people ride up the sides of buildings in special cars, soft fabric can be hardened with the press of a button into a glider, and madmen try to drive entire cities insane by putting "fear juice" in the water supply.
2cents from hardest-core of the hardcore by mrjoker	May 20th, 2007 03:22:25 PM
I live, sleep, eat, and breath The Joker. He has been my favorite fictional character since before I could read the words. NOTHING in the world of Entertainment means as much to me as this character. With that said, I am bursting with excitement at the new Batman movie. I love the direction Nolan seems to be taking with this; making The Joker dark, twisted, and above all- Scary! I loved how Jack did it in '89, I think Mark Hamill is a genius- but this one seems cold and evil. Different than what any mainstream fan or casual fan might be used to. I think the Harvey website was a very cool way to début this to all of us, and I can't wait to see Heath in full costume. I have a lot of confidence in Heath and especially Nolan. There is little that means more to me than the Joker (sad, i know)- and I am very enthusiastic about this.
used a completely new address too by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:23:18 PM
and it didn't work... but I think there are still pixels disappearing
TOO SLOPPY by iwontwin	May 20th, 2007 03:24:30 PM
If you are going to reveal the joker, we need to see him smile, he looks like hes getting a blow job from clayface. I always thought the joker was well kept?
djosiana by TruPhan	May 20th, 2007 03:24:55 PM
Thanks for coming in and stating the obvious and logical concept, that everyone has their own interpretation of Joker and no matter what we'll be disappointed. Too bad it will still escape most of the others here.
Hamill's laugh... by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 03:26:18 PM
... is the greatest Joker's laugh. Period.
WE EARNED IT! by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:26:43 PM
we've worked hard for this... how can they shut it down right when we get there? It's not our fault they underestimated us :)
Closed? by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 03:26:50 PM
I tried entering a Comcast email, and I got the cheating message. Why would they close it?
yep, they closed it... by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:29:08 PM
try putting in completely random, made-up email addresses. Same "trying to cheat a cheater" message. fuck this!!!
Not very clown like by Rupee88	May 20th, 2007 03:29:12 PM
The whole point of the "Joker" is that he's supposed to be some mentally deranged clown. I hope they keep it fairly consistent with this.
35 pixels left by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:29:18 PM
why is it getting so damn hard now?
Colonel... by Mezzanine	May 20th, 2007 03:33:17 PM
That is, at the same time, one of the worst ideas that I have ever heard, and one of the best ideas I have ever heard. This Joker is going to be awesome.
I still hope he calls Batman "Bats," though by Doctor_Sin	May 20th, 2007 03:33:25 PM
Hello, pot? Meet kettle.
NOT CLOSED! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:34:40 PM
2 pixels desappered in the last few minutes... keep trying! only 33 to go!
skynetbauxi... because they closed it by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:34:45 PM
no more squares are being removed
Crispin Glover as Joker would have been GENIUS!! by Mogwai Democracy	May 20th, 2007 03:35:32 PM
Glover rocks and his take on the Joker would be fucking amazing! Maybe when they finally film Frank Millers the Dark Night Returns we'll get to see that.
topper44 by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:35:33 PM
no they didn't
Just looked at that site again.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 03:35:49 PM
..think it's definitely real...The more I look at it the more it's growing on me.
not working on my comp... by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:36:00 PM
what are you doing differently than us, skynet?
WHERES THAT DAMN FAT KID!!??, I NEED A CHEST BUMP!!! by adamthelegend	May 20th, 2007 03:37:37 PM
Fantastic. Nolan has got it spot on - if the rumour that its a stray batarang that causes the "smile" is true too, then this could be the best show down....ever.
I'm guessing they're blocking our IPs by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:38:25 PM
so that other people can finish the thing (for whatever reason)... it's the only logical explanation
HE WHO LAUGHS LAST.... by connor187	May 20th, 2007 03:39:00 PM
LAUGHS THE LOUDEST MY FRIENDS
Glover would be ace... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 03:39:20 PM
Hahahaha, that you Andy?
Caused by a batarang? by Fenrisulfr	May 20th, 2007 03:40:21 PM
Damn, I didn't know a batarang could scar a man like that ! Unless it's as sharp as a meat cleaver !
Cool Idea... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 03:41:33 PM
Getting scarred by a Batarang....Mind you wouldn't there be loads of Jokers kicking about if they were as sharp as all that?
Nightmarish... by singsingjohnny	May 20th, 2007 03:43:02 PM
Seriously, that looks like something out of a really f'n scary nightmare...truly frightening, something I always thought Joker should be...can't wait to see more!
that last pic by rajium32	May 20th, 2007 03:43:27 PM
kicks ass. They should do no more. That is IT.
that last pic by rajium32	May 20th, 2007 03:43:39 PM
kicks ass. They should do no more. That is IT.
The Joker is cool, I want a kick in the nuts! by adm1976	May 20th, 2007 03:44:02 PM
If heath Ledger can pull it off well, I will slap Icy Hot on my ballsack.
BUT WHAT DOES BRUCE WILSON THINK?? by tracheattack	May 20th, 2007 03:49:38 PM
Whoa... a totally dark version of something! Really gruesome! Man, this is so fresh! eat a dick, nolan.
Truth be told, Batman can be interpreted in many styles by JDanielP	May 20th, 2007 03:50:35 PM
In both story and visual terms, Batman has lots of artistic room. I'm a fan of a fair number of comic book artists...and I can easily imagine how the style of each and every artist would be visually interpreted as motion pictures, in animation and/or live action. I would love to see a Marshall Rogers styled Batman come to life,...just as I desire to see a Brian Bolland interpretation, or Neal Adams, or Alex Ross, or Jim Lee, or Simon Bisley, or Bill Sienkiewicz, or Steve Rude, or Dave McKean, or Berni Wrightson, or David Mazzucchelli, to name a few. At least in visual terms, these artists can have trememdous impact in how a Batman movie...looks. And I believe that "one hand washes the other" (so-to-speak) in that...you want a style to mimic and enhance the story that is being told. In other words, you want a great recipe...and to not leave a bad taste, if you get what I'm saying. And you can't please everyone because not everyone has the same taste (as proven here, in the AICN-talkbacks). So, personally, it's probably more important to me that the BLEND is right,...that the recipe is right. If you're going to interpret Miller & Mazzucchelli's "BATMAN: YEAR ONE", then I want to see it closely match the cinematography of the movie "SE7EN", with shades of brown and dull greys,...quite the cool cinematic style. If you're going to interpret the art of Simon Bisley's "JUDGMENT ON GOTHAM", I expect lots of BLUE/GREEN SCREEN work with a body builder as Batman (likely voiced by someone else), with computer manipulation to make the body builder's muscles part of the costume itself. And a classic like Frank Miller's "THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS" would just as obviously go the "SIN CITY"/"300" route, with stage work against GREEN (or BLUE) SCREEN, with lots of computer animation. I guess in the end, I only care about a great flick,...as long as it's mostly faithful to the source material. But don't stray too far. And keep in mind that there's nothing wrong with COOL visuals...and great costume/character design. That's one aspect of "BATMAN BEGINS" that was underwhelming. And I'm hard to please, that way.
DARK Knight by Magnum Opus	May 20th, 2007 03:52:06 PM
Seriously, people are bitching about how dark Nolan's vision is? Like Batman was never dark in the books? Simpletons.
i don't know, skynet... I think it's closed by topper44	May 20th, 2007 03:53:19 PM
i keep watching a handful of the squares and they are not going away. watch the red and blue ones to the side... i really think they're closing it so we don't find out what is suppose to happen next
another pixel disappeared by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:55:29 PM
either someone's still getting in, or this thing is on a timer
It's awesome by mattb127	May 20th, 2007 03:56:59 PM
It's perfect. I thought it would suck after I saw those grainy images of Heath Ledger on set. Also, Heath Ledger. But this totally rules. It blew me away. It's so much better than the whacked-out Nicholson version. He looks DISTURBING. He looks F'D up. What the hell is going on on the side of his face? It's scarring or warts or what. It's f'ing CREEPY. And Nolan's whole thing is grounding the universe in believability. The Joker has always been a stretch, physically-- but you believe this. Some dude who got seriously messed up and now he's nuts and this is what he looks like. WOW.
the one on his upper lip just went by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:57:21 PM
no, it's not closed! I'm comparing screenshots all the time here
It's come to this? People are staring at pixels? by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 03:58:09 PM
God, I need to kill myself.
and no, I'm not obsessed with this! by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 03:58:53 PM
goddammit! :-)
I thought he had Bleached skin not white paint by BenIdom	May 20th, 2007 04:03:37 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Joker's whole body is white, not just his face from the chemicals he fell in. Which is also why his hair turned the awful bleach green like hair can do if you dont dye it properly. And as far as his red lips goes I thought that was also a result of the accident. I know he has the different gadgets like his flower with acid and lip paints with poison in them but to say he should be like the Joker in DKR is like saying Superman should be like the Superman in Kingdom Come. They both work in an elseworlds type fashion and while there are great moments from them it isn't the way the characters necessarily are in regular continuity. For that matter I think a Thrillkiller-esque Batgirl is "realistic" enough for the Nolan Batman universe. Just a thought though.
I thought he had bleached skin not white paint? by BenIdom	May 20th, 2007 04:03:44 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Joker's whole body is white, not just his face from the chemicals he fell in. Which is also why his hair turned the awful bleach green like hair can do if you dont dye it properly. And as far as his red lips goes I thought that was also a result of the accident. I know he has the different gadgets like his flower with acid and lip paints with poison in them but to say he should be like the Joker in DKR is like saying Superman should be like the Superman in Kingdom Come. They both work in an elseworlds type fashion and while there are great moments from them it isn't the way the characters necessarily are in regular continuity. For that matter I think a Thrillkiller-esque Batgirl is "realistic" enough for the Nolan Batman universe. Just a thought though.
Sexual harrassment panda by CherryValance	May 20th, 2007 04:04:07 PM
I can't get that little tune out of my head now. I can see how some people here might think it's cool. But I'd be surprised if the general movie-going public went for it. Now I think Nolan is a great director and I'm sure he knows what he's doing somehow. But to make the Joker look like that just seems really wrong. It'd be one thing if a new character looked like that. But the Joker is huge and iconic. And I don't think you should mess with stuff like that.
why people jump to conclusions by Cedar_Room	May 20th, 2007 04:05:47 PM
based on a single image from a film is beyond me. Batman Begins was great - it established the world perfectly (for me) that we can now explore further in the Dark Knight. Nolan knows his stuff, Ledger is a great actor - stop your bitching and have a little faith. I think they've earned it don't you?
No Sir, I don't like it by TheAFLACDuck	May 20th, 2007 04:09:07 PM
Seems a little too hard edged or something, I dunno. I think thye just out Tim Burton'ed Tim Burton with that design (if it's true).
968th by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 04:10:56 PM
Pwnage!
color saturation by NotThatGuy	May 20th, 2007 04:11:34 PM
Not a big deal, but if you screen cap it and change the color saturation from 100 to 130% it looks more like it probably will in the movie...the picture is washed out pretty good.
jesus...this looks fantastic! by Datascream	May 20th, 2007 04:16:42 PM
I'm really digging the Joker look for this movie. Go Nolan! I'll always trust his judgment for his movies, he hasn't let me down yet.
another one down by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 04:17:24 PM
blue one on his chin
Some points: by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 04:17:31 PM
For those who called me "bitchy": 1. I really loved BATMAN BEGINS - great movie, Nolan was right on target. 2. I NEVER liked the idea of Heath Ledger as the Joker from square one - he is Hollywood's Golden Boy right now and that is the ONLY reason he got it...which is tragic as people like Crispin Glover, Christopher Eccleston and a host of others would tower over him in terms of interpetation and delivery. 2. I have seen several of Ledger's roles - he is not an actor, he is a hack. Period. 3. The makeup is just revolting - an insult to the character, pathetic, cheap and a disgrace. 4. The Joker's character, for all his psychosis, has a certain degree of panache and style - Ledger is unable to convey it - I repeat: he is a talentless hack - and the idea they are trying to convey with this makeup is just drivel. 5.Nolan wants Batman set in a mor "realistic" frame of view? Who is he kidding? IT'S A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER! No that the SPIDERMAN films are exactly based in reality, but this bit about the Penguin and the Riddler not being able to fit in his world? Not a good sign - sure, characters like Captain Stingaree and Killer Moth I think I can live without, but come on, Nolan, lighten up a bit. 6. I do NOT want a return to the style of the 90s BATMAN films - like I said earlier, BATMAN BEGINS is a brilliant piece of film making - but let's not screw with the established characters so much they become something unrecognizable. Finally, if you don't like my opinion, that's great - you're entitled to yours as I am mine, but, please, let's can the insults, OK? IT'S AN OPINION ON MESSAGE BOARD - DEAL WITH IT!!!!! gets off of high horse and goes to watch this weeks episode of DOCTOR WHO
They are checking your IP address... by Rindain	May 20th, 2007 04:21:15 PM
Anyone try it froma completely different computer/IP address? I've tried from multiple legit email addresses on this computer and I get the cheating a cheater message...bet they log your ip now.
Gritty by stewiegriffin	May 20th, 2007 04:25:34 PM
I'm liking it a lot. Can't wait for this to come out.
Rindain, by skipbrilliantine	May 20th, 2007 04:28:16 PM
You must be right, I got away with it earlier today but no longer. The last few pixels are going reeeally slow.
I don't normally do this but ... by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 04:30:07 PM
i have to tell all you bitching little fan boys to just lay the fuck off - you asked for a creepy joker and they gave you one. Now you're crying left and right, i can't take this shit. Wait before you jump ship. This picture is setting the tone for the movie. It's going to be a twisted tale, dark, creepy and intense. STOP THE BITCHING or go rent B89 for christ sakes.
Rindain by Keo	May 20th, 2007 04:35:50 PM
A friend who hadn't done this before just tried it and it gave him the "cheating a cheater" message. Looks like they've closed it.
Heath Ledger is a gay cowboy... by AD_Skinner	May 20th, 2007 04:36:53 PM
Who eats pudding. He is not The Joker. If I was looking at a pic of Christopher Eccleston, Lachy Hulme, Mark Hamill, Crispin Glover etc... right now I'd be thinking "wow that looks shit, but at least they got a decent actor actor to play him". But currently I'm thinking this is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my entire life. Heath Ledger is a talentless non-entity piece of shit who isn't fit to lick Jack Nicholson's shoes. And to top it off this is what he’s going to look like? What is happening? Is this hell? What the fuck is wrong with the world!?!
Skinner by Keo	May 20th, 2007 04:38:42 PM
"But currently I'm thinking..." No one caaaaares.
Ledger will be fantastic. by Barry Egan	May 20th, 2007 04:39:53 PM
Anybody who doubts his chops hasn't seen Brokeback Mountain. And don't be afraid, watching it won't make you gay. But if you fear watching you probably are.
god I hate those pixels... by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 04:42:19 PM
grrrrrrr
Mark me as.. by P2Rock	May 20th, 2007 04:43:17 PM
Unimpressed. Like I said the only prob with BB was it lacked a certain theatrical component. To gritty. I understand what Nolan was doing but a brown palette does not inspire... much. The Joker contrasts bats perfectly in that the joker provides colour where the batman is darkness. But these characters contrats in every which way. This Joker seems to be from the same place bats is from. too gritty to real. He needs to be completely comic and insane. I did not like Nicholsons Joker as he was not menacing at all. I think Hamill nailed it except in a movie I would turn the menace up and comic side down a bit. This Joker is too much of a deviation from the source I fear. He needs to be intelligent, funny and well completely unreal. I dont like the fact he is scarred. I want him to be completely inhumane. Nuts and psychotic just cause he is, not cause mummy never loved him or daddy loved too much. I really dont know how ledger is going to pull this off. Can you really imagine Ledger doing a maniacal cackle that would seen a chill down your spine? He is too good looking. He does not have the rubber face required to contort and quickly change from jovial to menacing. I think Jim Carey at this stage of his career would have been even better than Glover. BUt this is spilt milk. I am not condemning this film, but I am not supportive of the casting or the look. I hope I am proved wrong. This is by far Ledger's most difficult role. Lets see if he can handle it?
I like it by JayHoytt	May 20th, 2007 04:45:35 PM
Full disclosure: I think BB is probably the best all-around comic superhero movie out there, primarily because of the realistic approach. I began to lose interest during the climax when comic book physics took over. That's not to say I don't enjoy comic book physics, but there is a medium that is well-suited for that scale of action: comic books (and of course, animation.) The fantastic characteristics of the superhero genre -- costume design, spectacular feats -- shine in those media, but IMO they tend to fall flat on film, even in the best cases (X-men 2, Spider-man, Donner's Superman). I offer that the genre is almost inextricably enmeshed with the medium. Trying to recreate the comic superhero experience in a dramatic (or action) film is most likely going to be as satisfying as recreating the dramatic film experience in superhero comics (ref. Bendis's work with Marvel.) All of this to say: "What JDanielP said." Thus far, I think Nolan's take on the Joker looks promising in the context of the world shown in BB.
RE:I don't normally do this but ... by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 04:46:30 PM
Claudio: IT'S AN OPINION - if you do not like it, go away and wait for the movie. I will speak my piece LIKE IT OR NOT.
Everybody Stop Whining by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 04:46:44 PM
God, all of this "Joker looks like crap" and "Heath is a bad actor", just shut up! If you think the movie will be so bad, and unbearable to watch, nobody is forcing you too watch, and nobody is forcing you to stay here to talk about it.
I agree--I like Ledger and BOOBS! by dead youngling	May 20th, 2007 04:46:53 PM
anyone who's been in a movie with anne hathaway's blessed tongue exciters can be in any movie they want to. NOW HOW GAY WAS THAT?
I agree--I like Legder and BOOBS! by dead youngling	May 20th, 2007 04:49:39 PM
anyone who's been in a movie with anne hathaway's blessed tongue exciters can be in any movie they want!
that Smile was sculpted by a Master artist! by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 04:49:59 PM
its fantastic,unbalanced yet balanced,creepy,disgusting,rem arkable.no matter that they got the idea from del Toro......I cant believe there people still thinking this is a fake.... the Joker obviously listens to Alien Sex Fiend!
I meant I love LEGDER's BOOBS! by dead youngling	May 20th, 2007 04:52:41 PM
i'm going to hell for loving heath's boobs. I hope JOKER is TOPLESS, and has Anne as a prostitute. Nolan will rock the flick, calm down haters. Heath and Bale make a good couple...
jfp2006 by themanwhojaped	May 20th, 2007 04:53:46 PM
Firstly, fuck Cesar Romero, seriously. And fuck you. Why is there this need for the Joker to have facial scarring at all? That isn't canon. He doesn't have any of that shit in the original source material. He smiles because he is insane, not because he can't help it.
RE:Everybody Stop Whining by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 04:55:33 PM
IT IS A MESSAGE BOARD. IT IS AN EXPRESSION OF OPINION. If *YOU* do not like it then *YOU* can leave as well.
29 by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 04:56:36 PM
so maybe this'll take until next week after all
jfp2006 by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 04:57:12 PM
Class act, aren't you? yawn
RE:Everybody Stop Whining by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 04:58:11 PM
Yeah, but I actually like discussing the thing, not hearing the same people complaining on and on about how the scar is two inchs too high. It is such a small detail, and they bitch on and on, yet you know that they are the ones buying tickets for the movie 4 months in advance.
Night of the Living Kris by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 05:00:13 PM
I'm not complaining on the scars or anything of that nature - and I say this with all humility - go back and read my original post and my thoughts on the look and why I think they blew it.
my tweak to the image by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:01:33 PM
http://i15.tinypic.com/6cnl4ew .jpg
To EVysther by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:04:21 PM
why dont you take your own advice and wait for the movie as well before you cry up a river ...
28 by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 05:08:51 PM
dumm-de-dumm
To:Claudio by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 05:08:53 PM
Why don't you develop some manners?
EVysther by Night of the Living Kris	May 20th, 2007 05:09:47 PM
EVysther I am not talking about you personally, I am talking about all of the people in general, complaining about silly things like saying this movie is ruined just because the make-up wasn't done exactly how they wanted it.
HEATH WILL ROCK AS THE JOKER! by apolo_sputnik	May 20th, 2007 05:09:49 PM
Chris Nolan brought new life to the Batman franchise in Batman Begins. That was one of the, if not the BEST comic book movie ever made. I am an AVID Batman fan, and I am ALL FOR Nolan's Joker. I want my Batman DARK. SCARY. INTENSE. That is exactly what NOLAN will deliver. Heath Ledger will OWN as the JOKER. Period. Go back and watch BURTON's BATMAN. They are 100 percent CHEESE. Worse yet, check out the Batman TV show (live action, we will leave the animated epic out of this discussion) or even WORSE still, Joel Schumacher's Batman. We should appreciate the BRILLIANCE of Nolan and his vision, his drive to bring us Batman the way he should be seen. I have NO DOUBT whatsoever that HEATH LEDGER will be scary as hell as the Joker. Don't like it? Go watch Batman and Robin, or Batman forever. You want a cheesy Joker? Watch Burton's Batman. It's great for kids, but for adults who love the genre, bring us the gritty more terrifying comic book epic. Be grateful, BATMAN FANS, that you are NOT a TRANSFORMER fan. Or, if you are both like me, at least BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT will be worth looking forward to, and it will NOT DISAPPOINT. At least Batman doesn't transform into a meteor. Or have a truck with flames. Or indistinguishable character designs or an atrocious script and director. Sigh. It's a sad time to be a TRANSFORMER FAN. Thank you NOLAN for BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT.
re: Gotham = Chicago by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:12:38 PM
Yeah, it's kind of distracting. As someone from the Cities, it seems like Gotham is the place where I go to when a band only goes through Chicago and not MPLS or STP.
Jesus by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:15:34 PM
Are you being paid by Warner Bros apolo_sputnik? Cause you should be. Hahaha...
multiple versions of Joker in print & yet they whine by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 05:16:20 PM
in comics & graphic novels and animation and toys, and yet some people whine about the scar. it fits the style of Nolan's version perfectly.
Um, I for one think facial scarring makes SENSE... by brokentusk	May 20th, 2007 05:16:52 PM
Christopher Nolan is obviously trying to make his Batman universe more realistic, more believable. What's cooler actually - a guy who falls into acid and comes out with scars that happen to form into a permanent grin, or a guy that used to be good-looking who goes insane and cuts a grin into his own face? I'll take the second one, thanks. I'm not sure that that's exactly what happens in the film, but it looks that way. Whoever thought Nolan's version of the Joker was going to look like Nicholson's or any other classic version of the character didn't pay much attention while watching BATMAN BEGINS. Carry on.
EVysther by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:21:42 PM
Dear, EVysther could you please stop crying over this picture and wait for the movie? Your opinion is appreciated and heard, but now i think we can move on. If the movie is awful, i will be the first one to say you were right - but until we can prove otherwise, judging on one picture and all the assumptions you laid out is just jumping the gun. It's illogical and at this point too early. I appreciate your opinion. But please, don't be offended when i say it's time to shut the fuck up. Thank you very much. Your friend, Claudio
More TDK thoughts by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 05:22:36 PM
Part of it is, I am a bit of a purist, and while I do like the idea of frightening Joker, I'm sorry, the make-up design is AWFUL. Just AWFUL. The entire point of the Joker was you weren't supposed to laugh or scream at his appearance, but this is just plain LOUSY. I agree this may be just a teaser and his appearance may change through the course of the movie, but, the Joker is an ESTABLISHED CHARACTER with a definite look. You screw with beloved iconic images, people get pissy faced. Artisitic liscence is one thing, but a good example would be SPIDERMAN 1 & 2's villains. The Green Goblin? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???? A friggin' Transformer look? Dr. Octopus - ahhhhh, much better, nicely done with enough tweaks to work in the film. As for Ledger as an actor? I stand on my opinion with NO apologies offered - he sucks. Period. And, NO, that is not a gay referenece, but, I must say Brokeback Mountian was the most pointless flick I have EVER seen. So what about the gay cowboy schtick? IT'S A LOUSY MOVIE PEOPLE - DEAL WITH IT! I guess time will tell, but, I will say this: It ain't looking good. ...and as for the folks who keep complaining about "whiney" fanboys and "crybabies", the same philosophy could apply to you - can it until the film open next year - it could really disappoint as well.
brokentusk by skynetbauxi	May 20th, 2007 05:24:31 PM
Jack Napier in BATMAN (89) doesn't fall into ACID (that would obviously kill him). he falls into some poisonous and/or chemically dangerous liquid, which turns his hair green and his skin white... and LATER, the doctor who operates on him says something about severing some of his facial muscles, which causes his permanent grin... I find this both believable enough AND comic-ish, and therefore better than Nolan's realistic style... after all, these are supposed to be COMIC BOOK ADAPTATIONS
To EVysther With Love by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:25:27 PM
Please read above or reference this updated version if the first one didn't get through to you. This is the cliff noted version: Dear EVysther, ... Please, don't be offended when i say it's time to shut the fuck up. Thank you very much. Your friend, Claudio
re:re: Gotham = Chicago by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 05:27:01 PM
On the other hand, at least it's not based on San Fran. Everytime I watched a Batman movie, I'd think to myself, "Why would anyone want to live in a bay, on a isthmus that's a hill, that's on a fault, where it's foggy all the time, where the people suck, and you pay $1100 to live in a cracker-box?" It would just be distracting.
Don't be Offended when you tell him to.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:29:15 PM
...shut the fuck up? Exactly why Wouldn't that offend him. This place is like a verbal war between people who want to suck Nolan's cock and people who want to castrate him...Why can't you just share your opinions/news without resorting to being total total bawbags?
To Claudio With Love by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 05:29:57 PM
I'll state it this way for you: Take your own advice and go away if you disapprove. If you don't like it, don't read it - and stop responding. Thanks again for your participation, buddy. EVysther
Maybe the "surprise" under the pic isn't ready yet... by Rindain	May 20th, 2007 05:30:08 PM
I'm sure The Joker is working on whatever trick lurks underneath the completed picture...anyway, I'll be checking back tonight---hope those last few pixels are gone by then.
HEY WHITE GOODMAN by PsarevoOmorfia	May 20th, 2007 05:30:15 PM
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO CAN SUCK IT.
GlenyD by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:30:35 PM
Mr. GlenyD, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I hear.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:31:23 PM
San Fran is full of homosexuals, which probably means it would be worth taking the risk for a straight guy to move there and try to get some action with the women....But then this has nothing to do with the Batman movie and is probably a lot of bollocks anyway. The scars could be better than they are.....Hehehehehehe. Ahahahahahaha, as the Joker would say.
TO: GlenyD by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 05:31:54 PM
RIGHT ON, BROTHER!
I apologize if I hurt you by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:32:16 PM
Evy, Glen, buddies. I'm sorry.
You can't.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:32:49 PM
have heard many insane idiotic rants can you then Mr Claudio. Away and cook us all up some Tapas, there's a nice immigrant. Fuckwad.
No Probs EVysther.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:34:59 PM
...I'll stand up for your right to a coherant opinion any day. Some people can't stand criticism.
Pixels Will Stay by xenophile15	May 20th, 2007 05:35:18 PM
First, I don't think all the pixels will be going anywhere soon. Whether it is real or fake, the site wants emails, and by leaving at least a few of the pixels people will keep entering their addresses. It would be against the people responsible for the sites best interest to remove all the pixels. Also, I emailed the reponse from the page back and got this message and got this: People always ask me about my charming boyish smile. Jessica used to love it. She was the loneliest girl in high school, and my first big kiss... Did anybody get anything else, or has anybody even tried?
Colonel Activity by Mr_Sleep001	May 20th, 2007 05:35:25 PM
I remember reading somewhere, I think it was about Kingdom Come or Infinity Crisis that Gotham was meant to have more in common with New Jersey. But I could be wrong.
Bats & Dredd:Judgement on Gotham,the movie by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 05:36:03 PM
if they make that i swear i will walk to Tibet on my knees. Bale as Bat, Vinnie Jones as Dredd, designs and stuff by Bisley, directed by Luc Besson...just the idea of it makes me happy.
Well that wasn't nice now was it ... by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:37:30 PM
First off, your assumption that i am spanish is wrong just like your comments ... Secondly, with a name like "Gleny" my assumption is that you enjoy bagle bites for lunch and masterbate quite regularly. Good luck with that fuckwad.
t.piper gates by ollirudi	May 20th, 2007 05:38:18 PM
vinnie jones as judge dredd sounds pretty fucking perfect actually. it's probably the only non-hooligan role he'd ever be fit to play.
Stating your opinion is batastic ... by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:39:20 PM
but when you repeat the same shit over and over, that's just retarded. It awesome both of you found each other. Now you can hold one another and cry.
It's... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:39:34 PM
"Bagel" bites and "Masturbate" and I didn't call you Spanish, and you started it. So I win and you are the cunt.
GlenyD is actually right. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 05:40:43 PM
I live in NYC and there is a shortage of available hetero males. Women looking for a man have a rough time. Hell, even Trump gets some...but then, he's filthy rich. Maybe that's my problem.
Except.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:42:03 PM
...I wasn't repeating myself fool. But you are beginning to sound a bit like a stuck record yourself.
Can't we all just get along? by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 05:42:35 PM
Let's all try it, just for a while.
Looks like.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:43:28 PM
I'm jumping on the next plane to NYC Cheer.:-)
Gleny - who died and made you an english teacher? by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:43:58 PM
we're on the internet you moron. I got a little hobby for you. Why don't you go and edit all the typos in these posts, seems like you got the time. I'm done. This is stupid. Cry all you want.
I'm up for getting along Cheer... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:45:42 PM
But whenever you voice a personal opinion on this sequel that isn't 100% stoked about it, you get barked at by someone. It seems they are not even willing to entertain the alien notion that it might not be a perfect movie. I thought Burton's Batman was going to be perfect before it came out, Boy, was I ever wrong. The lessons you learn when it comes to comic book adaptations.
Yeah, get lost Claudio... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:46:46 PM
Glad to hear you're done fool. Now leave us. Your presence is irritating to us all.
Me plus Glenyd equals Friends by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:49:57 PM
Ok, you're right. I think we all learned a valuable lesson and that is to respect one another, care for one another and most importantly - it's just a movie. For now on EVERYONE will get along. Much love and respect. Cheers Claudio
looks innocent by EVysther	May 20th, 2007 05:50:30 PM
rolls his eyes and whistles a happy little tune
Very well... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:51:04 PM
...Reconciliation accepted Claudio.:-) Take care Sir. G
Hahaha by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:52:31 PM
Is this barney your fault EVysther? ;-) I'm looking forward to the new Bats film, I just wish it was out now....Man, it's a pain waiting ages for these things to get made.:-(
What ....? by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:52:44 PM
I tried you piece of shit. I wanted friendship but you're a fucking baby . I hope this movie is fucking awesome so you can remember how much of a bitch you were. Everyone here is my witness. I tried to be friends.
Looks good to me. by Lucasblows	May 20th, 2007 05:55:11 PM
It fits in perfectly with the world Christopher Nolan created in the first film. Can't wait.
I accepted your attempt.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:56:52 PM
To be friends...If you'll notice the time of the posts Sir...At least be consistent...Christ's Sake...Yeah, I'm sure everyone here is a witness to that.
Sorry by Claudio	May 20th, 2007 05:57:08 PM
I didn't see your above message, only the one with hurtful comments...i take it back...
Ok... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:57:57 PM
..not to worry.:-)
"Who died and made you an english teacher?" LOL by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 05:58:14 PM
No, let me answer! An English teacher! Weakest comeback ever.
Peace now reigns Supreme.... by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 05:59:28 PM
Ooooooommmmmmmmmmm.. Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. ;-) They should have some Krishnas dancing with the Joker in the new movie...Hahahaha, that would be funny.
Well actually.. by GlenyD	May 20th, 2007 06:01:23 PM
..it wasn't that weak a comeback. Someone DID die and made me an English teacher. :-( Mr Lawrence who took Class 2B.... Naaah, just kidding. P.S. Should I mention Batman here?:-s
that email by djosiana	May 20th, 2007 06:10:26 PM
Just got the Jessica email. Awesome.
That is jaw-droppingly, shockingly shitty. by NinjaRap	May 20th, 2007 06:14:36 PM
How do you fuck up the look of the Joker? I didn't even know it was possible to do that. But I guess "some dude who got shot in the cheek and then smeared on too much lipstick like a three-year-old girl playing dressup with her mommy's makeup" is definitely one way to take this classic villian and then take a fat shit on him. Maybe it's just unflattering because it's so close-up. Might look a little better when it's pulled back. But I mean... damn... that looks unbelievably bad. Maybe it'd also help if he was SMILING. "Emo Joker" wasn't really what I expected either.
Did he eat the edge by Dragulf	May 20th, 2007 06:15:07 PM
of a sidewalk? Nasty!
Wow by HippieFella	May 20th, 2007 06:15:50 PM
Every geek(self included) always asks for a dark dark comic book adaptation...it appears we have one. Are we 100% sure this is real?
I nominate BringingSexyBack for worst TBer ever by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 06:25:11 PM
Seriously just shut up.
second that by djosiana	May 20th, 2007 06:29:18 PM
seriously, what the crap?
sarcasm? by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 06:31:10 PM
So I guess you agree that you're a witless twat?
I think i get it... by twinkikabuki	May 20th, 2007 06:32:30 PM
The only way i see this joker happening is if he has the hollow eyes like someone alluded too... This face with eyes like the animated joker had in the latter end of the series could be awesome.
Scars on Joker = Nipples on Batman by SpencerTrilby	May 20th, 2007 06:35:37 PM
not to mention the Flames on Optimus, or Gwyneth in Iron Man. Seriously, I prefered the fake photoshop we had a few weeks back (no, not the Conrad Veidt, the "Ledger with a multicolor sheet of paper in his hand") but his eyes are creepy enough. Gotta ear his laughter, and apply the lipstick better. ANOTHER color of lipstick.
Best talkbacker ever? by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 06:38:44 PM
Easy: Colonel Activity. Because he's the most handsome.
'It's all a monstrous demented gag!!' by performingmonkey	May 20th, 2007 06:38:54 PM
The grin will sell it. That's why he isn't grinning here and his eyes are closed, they don't want to give that away. My guess is that he'll shoot Gordon's wife as opposed to shooting his daughter in The Killing Joke. Gary Oldman's role should definitely be bigger than in Batman Begins.
i need to see hair by barbossa78	May 20th, 2007 06:40:10 PM
I mean,,that pic is too close up. i wanna see the whole shibang a bang..with wacky green hair . will it be lank and stringy or slicked back and styled?..i thing if his hair is back, and hes in a fucked up purple hued suit,it might look a lil better..so ill hold judgement till then..and i wanna see a smile, thatll really show if hes gonna look crazy or not
picking on? More like pointing out by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 06:41:51 PM
Kind of like how I pointed out how you're a total douche and have nothing to offer anyone at any time. 20,000 people in America kill themselves every year, why can't you be one? How dull was that you irritating little cocksucker?
SMILE!!!!!!!!!!!!! by ludmir88	May 20th, 2007 06:44:22 PM
Creepy look, better than Crispin Glover with make up. where is the hair?
would be nice if this was a place to exhange opinions by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 06:45:31 PM
discuss films and art and things like that, find creative input,a place where the movie industry could go to get a feel of the fans reaction,without having to skim over the rantings of a bunch of kids insulting each other. do we need a filter?
Realistic... by Damer1	May 20th, 2007 06:46:52 PM
Only after 420 can the fanboy say that Nolan's Batman is realistic. Get a clue...
It's amusing how people can go insane over a robot... by JackPumpkinhead	May 20th, 2007 06:51:53 PM
...because it looks just like the toon robot that they know EXCEPT that it has a few flames added on its chassis - but they're masturbating over this disgusting travesty. By the way, I first thought only of Dead Presidents, but now that I looked at the abomination again, it reminds me even more of that freak "musician" that named itself after Charles Manson. I guess if they got Nolan's "realistic" take on Spiderman - a hairy mutated man-spider creature a la Jeff-Goldblum-in-The-Fly - they'd be ejaculating over how "gritty" and "creepy" it was. (By the way, learn some more adjectives other than those two, will you?)
my grandma looks... by ludmir88	May 20th, 2007 06:53:08 PM
much more menacing than that.!!!
wow, reverting to assiging yourself control? by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 06:55:59 PM
What are you 12? Did you want me to give you a wedgie because you love the way they feel? Pissants always have this weird, slightly gay, puppet master bullshit they reach for when they're being verbally sodomized. Consider suicide because as bad as your life is now, it'll seem 1000 times worse when you're in the exact same position in 10 years. Do yourself and everyone who has the misfortune of coming into any kind of contact with you a favour and hang yourself from a doorknob now. I didn't say try to think of something to come back with. This is the end of the interaction: you can either kill yourself or further validate my assertion that you should go kill yourself.
per the arthouse forum suggestion by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 06:58:05 PM
there are plenty of rainbow themed places for discussing "art" and "cinema". This is for movies and was run this way long before your busted up ass got here.
art cinema movies,all the same by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 07:09:53 PM
but im not interested in pointless rantings.boring waste of time.
re: George Bush by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 07:11:41 PM
I wish this Joker would get his hands on George Bush and show him wonderful new things...
they leave piper by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 07:17:17 PM
Don't show up and expect to change things because you don't like'em. Like I said, this was the way long before you showed up. Either deal or gtfo. Art, cinema, and movies may be related but the terms carry very different meanings especially in their usual context(s) and source(s). This place is for movies. You want to room down the hall.
Why do they still have the photoshopped pic by chrth	May 20th, 2007 07:23:08 PM
When the real one is pretty much completely revealed? Get off your ass, AICN.
yeah shove bush how global warming works by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 07:25:33 PM
personally and physically
I think it looks great! by the darkman	May 20th, 2007 07:27:45 PM
If it's real I'm very excited to see this movie already, and it's still a year away.
And by Mattyboy122	May 20th, 2007 07:43:23 PM
My worst fears have been realized. This is so disappointing for a number of reasons: 1. Christian Bale is a wonderful actor and, in the right Batman universe, could be the definitive onscreen version of the character. 2. Nolan is a great director, but he is not suited for Batman. Let me expand on the Nolan issue, because I'm assuming there's no argument with Bale, because he's easily one of the best actors working today. Batman is so rooted in the noir genre that it sucks the life out of the character when you try to make it ultra-realistic. He lives in a fantastic world, full of costumed criminals in which he fights for justice. Now, a bunch of the glaring problems with BB were with the dialogue, which Goyer was largely responsible for. Yes, the dialogue in BB was atrocious much of the time. However, this 'realistic' take on Batman is, I'm sure, Nolan's idea, and it quite frankly sucks. Wasn't it Frank Miller who essentially said that these characters work best as the fastastic, iconic characters that made them popular? When you boil them down to be realistic, it just makes them boring as shit. Case in point: Batman Begins. I don't think I was excited at all during the movie, save for the moment when Batman turned the card over at the end to reveal the Joker. The whole movie was just so...plain. Take, by contrast, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, a film that utilizes the noir influence on Batman to create maybe the definitive portrayal of the character in movies. Mask of the Phantasm is interesting, intriguing, wonderfully plotted and imagined. Hell, even Tim Burton's Batman (1989) was entertaining, and while it wasn't faithful to the comic in terms of facts, it was faithful in spirit. Nolan's Batman is the equivalent of Law & Order. It's paint-by-the-numbers, takes itself too seriously, and ultimately is boring. And I don't dislike Nolan. I love Memento and The Prestige was my favorite flick of 2006. But that doesn't mean the guy is right for Batman. Sigh Maybe a reboot in a decade or so will get it right.
bsb by jedimindflayer	May 20th, 2007 07:50:57 PM
around here, we call that 'getting yer red wings'. great job with the viral marketing, wb... very impressive. that shit is creepy
he needs some green on his face... by ludmir88	May 20th, 2007 07:57:09 PM
i don't know. the scars looks great but he needs to laugh with a psycho expression and... they will convince me
Happy... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 07:57:28 PM
this has to be the happiest looking Joker I've ever seen. It looks like he wants to go door-to-door for UNICEF, that's how happy he looks. Not a care in the world. I think he and Bats are going to be bestest friends.
it's not the Joker by acebandage	May 20th, 2007 08:08:42 PM
Joker is not scarred, he grins because he is ape-shit insane. He is not a dark and brooding killer, he is a garish and manic disassociated sociopath who delights in his plans and schemes the way a brilliant yet spoiled teen would in playing a video game seeing the deaths with the same moral weight. He is not intimidating to look at, what is so unnerving about the Joker is the ridiculous clown face that hides this homocidal sociopath who has no conscience and is all about the theatrics of his game. If you don't see this as "realistic" enough for a Nolan film, then I guess I don't like Nolan films because in MY reality, I have seen people wear garish purple suits on the streets. I have seen pictures of John Wayne Gacy and did not see a scarred maniac but someone who looked as normal as you or me but hid a dark sick twisted persona underneath. Villains who look like villains aren't nearly as scary as those that look safe and friendly. Hitchcock believed that the villain must look like a real charmer or he could never get close enough to his victim. I don't doubt that Heath Ledger will do a fine job playing the creepy horrific looking serial killer that stalks Gotham's streets at night and comes face to face with Gotham's Dark Knight Detective, but I sure as Hell don't believe that the character he will be playing will be the Joker...unless of course all of this has been the most elaborate hoax of all time and none of this is true. That is what I'm hoping for. An eleventh hour reprieve that will save this movie. And wouldn't that be perfectly in line with the Joker's modus operandi? Here's to hoping! Ta!
YackBacker by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 08:15:43 PM
That's a strange bit of advise to give after I'm already done with him (by done I mean I slapped him around till I realized he was handicapable).
Boy when Talkbackers get pissed off at a movie by Lovecraftfan	May 20th, 2007 08:15:50 PM
There's nothing else like it on the Net.
I wish this Joker would... by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 08:18:30 PM
torture Sean Hannity to death. He's the biggest piece of shit this side of Bill O'Reilly.
I just want to ask you all something... by brokentusk	May 20th, 2007 08:23:08 PM
Remember a film called BATMAN BEGINS? Yeah, now please calm down and look at the larger picture before you all start throwing your toys out of the cot.
For the love of... by Keo	May 20th, 2007 08:25:21 PM
Talkbackers need to calm the fuck down.
This Joker looks awesome by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 08:26:27 PM
like an unpredictable asshole who will kill at the drop of a dime. It's too bad he didn't exist; if he did, he would probably kill Karl Rove by sodomizing him will a broomstick...kind of like what Sean Hannity thinks should happen to minorities, because he's a pieve of shit. In fact, every neo-con supporter deserves to die.
this movie is going to be awesome by serum1979	May 20th, 2007 08:27:12 PM
How the hell can people dismiss an entire movie based on one goddamn picture?! jesus, you must be joking me (no pun intended) thank god none of you are professional movie critics otherwise you would never have jobs. I have complete faith in nolan, bale, ledger, and the rest of the amazing cast in this film to be certain it will kick total ass.
To respond... by P2Rock	May 20th, 2007 08:27:50 PM
yeah I agree with the criticism of being too good looking. But my point is stated more accurate when refering to his inability to emote facially. The pic looked like a calvin clein model with face paint. And I strongly agree Ace bandage. The Joker needs to be as unrealistic as possible. Thats what scares the shit out of everyone and makes him one of the most feared villians in the DCU. He is flat out insane with a single minded manic life purpose on death and mayhem. He is larger than life. Think an evil Micheal Jackson......wait... err. Well you catch my drift. i mean, I dont want the Joker to be real. You see unlike bats we dont need to know his motivation or his origin we dont need to empathise or understand, cause we can't. we need to bit shit scared of this crazy sonofbitch who has no fear (re: his immunity to scarecrows gas) and no conscience. Also he needs to stick with the look. The Jokers persona like bats is embodied in his suit and look. I agree somewhat with Mattyboy122 in that batman begins was not overly entertaining. I loved and however and do think it was the best comic to film adaption cause they pretty much nailed the batman character.However this part is so important. because the Joker is the ultimate antagonist for Bats. His foil if you will. But i think he is just being trewated as a slightly nutty villian with a dramatic flair. I like all Nolan's films, however I do not like what I have seen with his Joker. Im hoping it turns out ok. BTW why the fuck do we need rachel dawes anyway? Hope Joker kills the bitch.
omg P2rock you just made this so much better by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 08:30:55 PM
The Joker absolutely MUST kill Maggie Gylennhal!!!
The Joker does exist by kafka07	May 20th, 2007 08:34:15 PM
He's you, Colonel Activity. Hats off. And P2Rock, I don't need no evil Michael Jackson. This Joker is the bastard spawn of John Wayne Gacey and Michael Myers, and that's cool with me.
damn by kafka07	May 20th, 2007 08:35:44 PM
I've never seen talkback this long before.
Scars...Why? by Will Panic	May 20th, 2007 08:36:02 PM
Acebandage has a point. In regards to Batman movies, this is two for two movies with an unnecssarily scarred Joker. I also agree with Col. Activity regarding Neocons.
I've seen the unrealistic Batfilms. by XXVIII	May 20th, 2007 08:37:13 PM
They made me want to punch a baby seal.
an evil mickael jackson?what does he do to boys? by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 08:42:15 PM
apart form getting them drunk and molesting them?
That is amazing! by Kirbymanly	May 20th, 2007 08:47:46 PM
I cannot WAIT for this now. Anyone know when we're going to see a trailer?
ITS COMPLETE! by stevothorne	May 20th, 2007 08:51:59 PM
The photo is done WOOOO!
Heath Needs to Grow a Moustache by FlyingToupee	May 20th, 2007 08:52:29 PM
Than he can look like the greatest Joker of them all-Cesar Romero. Can't you just see Heath cackling "Ho ho ho...delicious!". And Bale needs to wear a grey leotard and get a beer belly so he can be the true replacement for the only real Batman, Adam West. He needs to have a full supply of shark repellant Batspray to fend off those crazy smiling Joker fish. Hopefully Nolan is in deep contact with Lorenzo Semple, Jr. for ideas. This is gonna rock!
RE: Ledger's looks by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 08:52:55 PM
He's not too good looking for the part. He looks like he couldn't buy sex in this pic. Even without the make-up, he's not that good looking; I'm better looking than him.
Looks Very Creepy by Darth Melkor	May 20th, 2007 08:53:35 PM
And that's what I wanted. I want a psycho dark joker, note a clown Nicholsan Joker. And that pic is just disgusting.
Who cares? by Bruno Diaz	May 20th, 2007 08:54:11 PM
this is a really boring-ass, lame promotion that makes me wonder if the movie might suck. Who gives a shit about a picture of Heath Ledger's face smeared with make-up, etc. Fucking retarded.
The photo is done . . . YAWN. by Mankind	May 20th, 2007 08:54:30 PM
Not excited. Looks like the cover of a CD I wouldn't buy. Dang. I had high hopes.
Imagine by stevothorne	May 20th, 2007 08:54:58 PM
If you started hearing the pic laugh and its animated into a grin or something, id poo myself.
yeah this talkback is looooooooooooooooong by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 09:03:11 PM
im on a slow conection and it takes me ages to load it.nolan and the company peolpe must be rubbing their hands and calculating those $$$.
hehehe by Reznik	May 20th, 2007 09:05:35 PM
must be a pain in the ass to shave around all those scars... which makes me wonder... about the original joker... if he didnt shave his facial hair would probably grow out green right? that would be something to see. A green 5 O'clock shadow.
Nolan is going for realism here. I like it. by JusticeSabre	May 20th, 2007 09:05:57 PM
I'm guessing they'll play up more of the psychotic genius aspect of the character more with Ledger in the role. He does have to pull off the comedic shit well, though... Hopefully it'll translate. PS: MICHAEL BAY STILL FUCKING LOST.
A word on Realism by P2Rock	May 20th, 2007 09:06:19 PM
We dont need realism (or at least I dont) in my comic to film translations. It simply needs to take the characters and stories seriously. Thats where I think Burton failed and Nolan succeed with the Batman character. By the wway there is no f^%*ing way anyone can argue about Bale as Batman. He is perfect, and the highlight of begins. My fear is that Nolan has looked at the traditional Joker and said "no, cant see it working, I'll make him like this." Note I love the joker character but do not like his origin story in the killing joke. We dont need to humanise him please. Also the main reason why Supes sucked was because Singer did not take Superman seriously, ignored the source material and came up with a completely boring and fucked up story line. Go suck a dick Singer you egotistical arrogant fag. Call me Isaiah Washington bitch.
The Picture Can't Be Done! by FlyingToupee	May 20th, 2007 09:12:09 PM
Where's the moustache?
Does anyone by stevothorne	May 20th, 2007 09:13:26 PM
Fell alittle sympathetic when you see this pic of the Joker, like how the character must feel. Also anyone got any ideas how he creates his gang of goons and whether it will show this in this version?
realism? by wolf of manhattan	May 20th, 2007 09:16:32 PM
people think this is more realistic than the comic joker? how the hell could you think that? he has a giant gash on his face forming a smile. how is that more realistic looking than a normal clown (comic joker). i'm sick of nolan's 'REALISM' bullshit. IT'S BATMAN. c'mon nolan.
BringingSexyBack by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 09:16:57 PM
I already finished with you. If you're ever funny we can have at it again. As it stands all you did was back me up in nominating you for worst talkbacker ever. Now shut the fuck up you annoying little pussy. You never really said anything back either. So fuck off pencil dick. Did you notice how long the nomination took to be 2nd'd? About 5 fucking seconds. So suck my nuts, assfag.
fucking crap bull shit pic it looks stupid by JeanLuc Dickhard	May 20th, 2007 09:19:06 PM
fuck off dc ......
PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT!!! by REMcycle	May 20th, 2007 09:20:02 PM
That face is freakin' terrifying! It doesn't get any better than that! Let's hope it's not a fake.
What a boring looking Joker..... by Forestal	May 20th, 2007 09:26:07 PM
This pic doesn't get me excited for The Dark Knight...Nolan's taking this realism thing too far....
Looks like SHIT by Blok Narpin	May 20th, 2007 09:29:02 PM
Some people believe Nolan can do no wrong and will make excuse after excuse for him ... but there is no denying that this is a shitty makeup job. This looks like total crap. Is this really the best Nolan's team could come up??
Mattyboy122... by REMcycle	May 20th, 2007 09:30:32 PM
...I totally agree with you re: Mask of the Phantasm. I remember seeing that in the theatre thinking "THIS is the Batman film that all the others should have been!" I think I'll go watch that now, actually. It's been years!
I'm really surprised by the backlash. by Lighthouse	May 20th, 2007 09:34:39 PM
I'm actually really psyched about this picture. I think we're gonna have one helluva movie.
Why would you be surprised by the backlash? by Lovecraftfan	May 20th, 2007 09:36:20 PM
You do realize this is the ACIN talkback boards. Theyre kind of known for that.
I'd say 85% of people love this Joker by Rindain	May 20th, 2007 09:39:07 PM
and 10% are taking a wait and see aproach. Only 5% seem to truly dislike it.
some of you really suck by rubbin_nubbin	May 20th, 2007 09:44:30 PM
This looks great, it is a fuckin disgusting pic and i love it. I almost puked when i saw it...perfect. Some of you pussies were crying cuz of that fake pic and you wanted him to be more sadistic and sick looking, well he does
F-ing LOVE the direction they're taking this! by odysseus	May 20th, 2007 09:47:18 PM
Is Dave McKean consulting?
Joker this, Joker that.. by Lerkst	May 20th, 2007 09:48:51 PM
..first thing, whoopee. It's just a pic. I thought Bats looked retarded in the promo pix for Begins; then I saw what became the best film I've seen in 25 years. Second, I don't think it's the Joker in the movie...it's just marketing. Heath Ledger is perfectly cast as the Joker, and he's going to be a brilliant YOUNG Joker. Granted, I think Aaron Echhart is the REAL inspired casting---his Two-Face will be fantastic. Seriously, did anyone expect Cillian Murphy to be good as the Scarecrow? This movie will be on par with BB, but from a completely different angle.
I think I found something on there... by soupcan58	May 20th, 2007 09:52:52 PM
I moved the cursor around the page (mostly out of being tired) and saw something interesting. When I moved under the image, there's a box to input text into. I tabbed through the page and found that text box highlighted as well. When I clicked in there and typed, I didn't see anything, but maybe there's something out there we should be looking for to put in there.
That is the face of a deranged lunatic by slone13	May 20th, 2007 09:53:53 PM
Perfect. Now go cry in your pillows, you hater douches. Good day.
me too, its creepy crazy and sold me on ledger by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 09:56:22 PM
hope he's got the force of nature personality nailed convincingly.
Yeah... by shitstorm23	May 20th, 2007 09:56:42 PM
You HAVE to expect a backlash, people here bitch about everything. People were bitching forever about that Optimus with lips thing, when a bunch of fucking transformers had lips in that cartoon, Optimus just had that face guard, which they should have left on, but who gives a shit. Anyway, back to the matter at hand. I think the Joker looks sick! I've been a Batman fan for a long time and while I understand why people want a "traditional" joker, I'm all for re-inventing the look. Now, if he isn't maniacal and bat-shit crazy, then I'll have a problem. But, the picture of Harvey with the eyes and lipstick scribbled over, makes me think it will be all good. People just need to realize that no one will top the Mark Hamill Joker, but did anyone REALLY want a copy of that? I can count tons of different looks for the Joker, from scarred to queer makeup wearing loonies, but the all acted the same. Look at Tim Sale's Joker, he looks so cartoony it's crazy and illogical, but it's cool as fuck. I guess my point is, as long as they get the attitude, the Joker CANNOT suck. I can't wait to see a trailer, but it will be a while, I'm sure.
Batman's been everything... by Mal Carne	May 20th, 2007 09:57:04 PM
...from a goofy Boy Scout to a psychopath. Why not try the realistic approach? Is one friggin' picture going to make you scream "they ruined it", already? Please. Grow up. My take? This is Tyler Durden wearing clown makeup. (Although obviously, Tyler proper would be Two-Face. But I digress...) Think about possibilites, toss out all your preconceptions, and savor the possibilites. Ah, wait, I forgot. This is ACIN. Go back to your whining.
Love that Joker! by Valkyrie_Lenneth	May 20th, 2007 09:59:55 PM

ROUND GOES TO SUPERMARCH by montessaurus	May 20th, 2007 10:02:40 PM
sorry bs b.
quoted for truthery by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 10:10:28 PM
"Is one friggin' picture going to make you scream "they ruined it?" Exactly. At the end of this I'm saying he looks better than I expected him to and I expected A LOT. They've knocked it out of the park in terms of his face. I can't wait to see and hear him in action. This will be a Batman movie but it's really about The Joker.
more sarcasm by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 10:12:15 PM
Just when you thought he couldn't make himself look any worse he reaches up his swollen ass and pulls out a hamster. Golf clap for retards everywhere, BSB your king as knocked the floor out and lowered the bar for you all yet again.
Is it just me? by Antonius	May 20th, 2007 10:13:47 PM
Or do Yackbacker and BSB hate fucking everything?
So...people love disturbing more than accuracy? by MonteCristo	May 20th, 2007 10:16:02 PM
Hmm. I'll have to remember that when I make my documentary on the affect violence, disturbing images, and gore have on the average moviegoer.
I Want to Believe But This Isn't the DC Joker by Alexander Luthor	May 20th, 2007 10:16:31 PM
This Joker looks nothing like the one in the comics for the past 20 years. I like it that they went for the whole crazy alex from 'a clockwork orange' angle on the character as it matches up with several takes on the Joker (most notably Grant Morrison's in Arkham Asylum and his recent issue of Batman). BUT, the look is all wrong. At least what I've seen thus far. That being said, I'll still see the movie with an open mind and I'll probably like it because I love the team behind it and I loved Batman Begins. I do think that do to the fact that the creative team had such critical success with re-inventing the franchise for the movies (so to speak) that they think they have some room to maneuver when it comes to the look of certain bat-characters. I think that is true for a lesser-known Ra's Al Ghul. Or the batsuit and gadgets even for the batmobile (which has changed so many times over the years). But the Joker has always pretty much looked the same. Screwing with that is equivalent to flames on optimus prime IMO. Or nipples on the batsuit. BUT, if anyone can make me a believer Nolan can. Good luck dude.
MonteCristo by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 10:19:35 PM
I hate to burst your bubble and the bubble of those like you but this character is not in fact a real person. Accuracy is abject in the interest of entertainment and that's absolutely allowable since these characters have and always will be ficticious. Also: when pitching this doc, you should use the proper 'effect' and not'affect'. Details are important. In reality.
Let's clear up a few minsconceptions here. by themanwhojaped	May 20th, 2007 10:20:05 PM
1) In Burton's 1989 Batman the reason Joker ends up with that facial scarring is because when he fires at Batman after shooting Lt. Eckhardt Batman deflects the shot with his gauntlets and the ricochet hits Napier in the face, severing the nerves. That's what fucks up his face. And then the surgeon can't do much about it, and comments as much to the newly reborn Joker. 2) Other than very recently in Grant Morrison's Batman run, the Joker has never had any facial scarring whatsoever. In the original source material when the Joker falls into the vat of chemicals they bleach his skin and hair, however his lips remain normal. He isn't given a permanent smile by the chemicals. The Joker is capable of a normal human range of facial expressions. He smiles a lot because he is insane and delights in doing fucked up things to people. He does this a lot, and hence smiles a lot. 3) Recently in the comics the Joker was shot in the face at point blank range by an imposter dressed as Batman. Subsequent to that in the prose issue written by Morrison (I think it is Batman #662) he cuts his cheeks open and sews it shut again, Ichi the Killer style. It's implied that this scarring may be permanent, but when the Joker shows up in issue #50 of DC's 'Countdown' maxi-series he does not appear to have any scars. 4) There is no reason why Joker needs to be deformed. I personally think it detracts from the character. He is scary enough without having to make him physically disturbing. 5) Out of all the characters in the Batman rogues gallery, The Joker should be the easiest to translate into film as his whole point is that he is an aberration. He is theatrical and dramatic. That doesn't mean he should mince around like Caesar Romero did. He should act the way that Hannibal Lecter does, but with the occasional, dark, scary laugh.
looks like something John Wayne Gacy by palewook	May 20th, 2007 10:20:17 PM
would paint.
Guess I Won't Be Helping On This One by Birdys Piano Teacher	May 20th, 2007 10:23:07 PM
Tried twice and failed to get emails both times. I'm assuming others will be picking up the slack. ;)
(edit) by ollirudi	May 20th, 2007 10:23:26 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yrha5w
awesome by jmnwolff	May 20th, 2007 10:26:43 PM
it just looks awesome.
Just got in and looked at that picture again. by Bronx Cheer	May 20th, 2007 10:32:54 PM
That Joker is one freaky, scary, upsetting, disturbing mother. If he doesn't look to you like your comic book Joker, then try to remember that the comic books will always be there...this is a movie. I happen to think this movie will add to the Batman mythos, not take away.
this IS awesome by teddanson37	May 20th, 2007 10:40:44 PM
but i like x-menTLS. so what do i know.
Um...Cool pic, I guess. But where's the Joker? by SpyGuy	May 20th, 2007 10:51:17 PM
'Cause that sure as hell ain't the Joker...It's a drag queen after waking up the next morning.
agreed bronx cheer by pipergates	May 20th, 2007 10:53:10 PM
As with what you said earlier about the "foreigner" issue, Nolan is just choosing good actors, and there's a lot of top quality british actors. I would have loved the Joker to be skinny and have a pointed chin just like in the comic, but the Batman universe is so rich and well-established that to do a different version-Elseworld you could call it-just enriches it. And i do enjoy the gritty tone and above all the intelligent storyline in Nolans take.
Yeah, Joker looks lame... by kintar0	May 20th, 2007 10:57:55 PM
but so did Batman, Scarecrow, Ra's al Ghul and the Batmobile, so I'm not really surprised/disappointed. Sure, Batman's my personal favorite superhero and I'd love to see a Batman film that's really great and exciting and all that, but I'm way past having any hope. And yes, I will go see it in the theater when it comes out if only to satisfy morbid curiousity and to inform my opinion. This, too, shall pass.
The Scar by kedohmen	May 20th, 2007 11:04:58 PM
I think it was caused by a gun shot wound. The left side of his face being the exit wound, that is why its 'puffed out' Anyway, I like it. I wouldn't want to run in to this crazy bastard in a dark ally.
The Joker Rocks by BrightEyes	May 20th, 2007 11:06:10 PM
jesus. I'm sorry but you guys complaining about the Joker are just pussys. Dont see the movie and stop complaining if you hate a picture so much.
I rule by Colonel Activity	May 20th, 2007 11:06:17 PM
And I'm the best looking guy ever. Turdstrussel
Creepy and Cool--but what's he going to ACT like? by heyscot	May 20th, 2007 11:09:42 PM
This looks considerably darker/more realistic obviously. I can't wait to see what he looks like on screen while acting. . .the Joker is a hard role to play, but I trust Nolan because Batman was a hard role to play, too. I'm shutting down my spoiler machine now so I can go into the movie not knowing any more. It's far more enjoyable that way.
The Real World: Arkham Asylum by a rolling stone	May 20th, 2007 11:15:34 PM
Catwoman: hooker turned thief / Maxi Zeus: mobster with god complex / Black Mask: mobster with parental issues / Ventriliquist: mobster with split personality / Mad Hatter: mind control freak / Deadshot: expert marksman / Bane: steroid-using mastermind (I think Ivy, Croc, Man-Bat, Clayface & Mr. Freeze are out)
What's all the bitching about? by DeusExMachina	May 20th, 2007 11:17:41 PM
Let's just face it. Everybody is not going to be pleased. Some people just can't let go of what they know the Joker to be. Me on the other hand I'm open for whatever they bring at me as long as its good. We should all know that anything other than what we have just seen will go against what Nolan is doing and will look too cartoonish. You know what though. The movie is a whole year away so just chill and wait to see what else comes out. Even though I like what I see, it is still only the face. I don't know how his outfit is going to look. How he's going to sound. How's he's going to carry himself. There's all that to consider other than the simple face we all just saw.
I'm disappointed. by Felix Buckman	May 20th, 2007 11:20:01 PM
Heath Ledger is a fantastic actor, Nolan a very good director, but this pic is not what I want to see. I'll always wonder what would've happened if Adrian Brody were Joker. I'll still see it, though.
im excited whether the pic is fake or not by Lance4431	May 20th, 2007 11:20:27 PM
Ledger CAN act. After Brokeback, it's obvious that he has the potential to be one of his generation's great actors. You dont even realize that he's acting in Brokeback, the character just exists. I will not be suprised if he blows the roof off with his Joker performance.
yep by Lance4431	May 20th, 2007 11:23:40 PM
Oh yeah, Nicholson was a terrible Joker. It was what Nicholson has been doing for the last 20 years, which is too much Jack "I wear shades and bang a lot of women" Nicholson and not enough acting. Barely better than Cesar Romero. Hopefully, Ledger will not prance around to Prince.
SORRY BSB by montessaurus	May 20th, 2007 11:25:36 PM
i just call em as i see em. you just got ,as the kids say, "owned", with a "p" substituting as the "o". nothin to get wack about, brah. life's to short, no?
Look closer... by Bad_Lieutenant121	May 20th, 2007 11:30:32 PM
Even the defaced Harvey Dent pic mirrors the Joker, it looks like Dent's face is scarred under the red lipstick and has dark rims arond the eyes...subtle but very clever to indicate what the Joker would look like!!! Hurry up and Return Dark Knight, DAMMIT!!!
Homophobes and half-wits by theseventhshore	May 20th, 2007 11:35:28 PM
I didn't fully appreciate Mr Ledger UNTIL Brokeback...the man has serious fucking chops, kidlets - and he's being directed by a master storyteller who knows how to cast, and how to work with ACTORS! And get over the 'hoax' delusion. I know one of the main marketing folks at WB who was beaming about this Dent/Joker reveal - this person knows how apprehensive I was, but promised that loads would be blown (not just with this reveal, but the eventual Two-Face showing that TRUMPS it). As the great Ric Flair used to crow, "You don't have to like it...but you're going to learn to LOVE it!!!". Whoo.
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Not to 'poo poo' the first one... by thedottedlion	May 20th, 2007 11:42:33 PM
It was really good. It's just... I wanted a little more batman year one, and a little less SUV. Hearing that Heath (Knight's Tale) Ledger was the Joker in the new one didn't excite me, but this picture looks pretty damn sweet! The scar reminds me of the acid kiss in fight club. It has that gritty bubbly hideousness, y'know? Can't wait to see this.
BringingSexyBack by supermarch	May 20th, 2007 11:42:48 PM
Give up. Fuck off. Kill yourself. With every word you type you validate my nomination that you are the scum on the bottom og the AICN barrel. You're an annoying douche with no more sense that a bag of dog shit. You're not funny, insightful, or intelligent. So what can you offer? I mean besides saving the second most annoying person on here from attaining your title of queen retard? When you parent's friends ask about how you're doing they just smile and excuse themselves from the room.
Villains that could work in Begins unvierse by DBHughes	May 20th, 2007 11:51:00 PM
Looking back to Rolling Stone's comment, I think Croc could happen in a variation. Look at the fourth picture here: http://www.bmeworld.com/amago/ bodmod/index.html I can't see Croc being more than a background cameo like Mr. Zasz; but Croc could work as a gang leader. Ivy could also work with the deletion of the spectacular stuff. At her core, Ivy is a poisons expert with a black widow complex.
I don't know, supermarch... by kintar0	May 20th, 2007 11:52:42 PM
reads like love to me.
it is fully revealed now by themanwhojaped	May 21st, 2007 12:00:26 AM
And I must say, now that it is much clearer and at a higher resolution it is growing on me... but I still think the scarring is completely unneccessary
poeticwarriorII by supermarch	May 21st, 2007 12:09:42 AM
You MONUMENTAL fucking retard. I said the pic looks great you fucking moron. I got on BSB cause he made some stupid post that wasn't funny nor constructive. Now you pipe in like a fat guy late to the buffet all pissed and not knowing where to direct his anger? Get fucked! You're in the running for biggest douche now! BSB has competition already?
I think the Joker's part isn't going to be as big... by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:10:46 AM
as you guys think. I don't think he'll die at the end either. Remember, that Nolan said he wanted to keep the focus on these films on Batman. Joker will probably be like Raz, and be on screen for about a half an hour.
And when you think about it... by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:13:27 AM
Tim Burton's film shouldn't have been called Batman. It should've been called The Joker. Since it was all about him, and had very little to do with Batman.
All this Love all this Hate. by JUSTICE41	May 21st, 2007 12:15:26 AM
All this Love all this Hate. Better than a Meh. I say let the lovehating continue because I need a few chuckles.
I like it! by vampirepacman	May 21st, 2007 12:16:56 AM
I'd like some of the haters to make someone up and post a pic of what they think a Joker should look like...I bet it'd be crap, but you never know....
lost.rules by djosiana	May 21st, 2007 12:19:18 AM
Shit, you're probably right. Now I am sad. If it's going to be a disaster, I want it to be an amazing disaster. And he better not die. That's what Nolan has over everyone else at least.
Once, when I was in third grade, during recess... by kintar0	May 21st, 2007 12:19:56 AM
the Special Needs kids took recess at the same time as the rest of us. They were trying to play four-square or tetherball or whatever. They went unsupervised for some reason and a bunch of them got in a full-out brawl. You know, grabbing nuts, kicking each other in the face, gouging eyes, psycho dingbat stuff. And they were all four or five of them sobbing, crying the whole time. The teacher came back from where ever she was and broke the fight up. Those crazy mongoloids were a mess, all dirty and bleeding and crying. Good think there was a teacher around to break up the retard fight.
It's alright by Twitchy McGee	May 21st, 2007 12:20:47 AM
I don't dislike it, but I don't love it either. When Grant Morrison did this to the Joker a few issues back, I thought it was a bad call too. I trust Nolan to bring me a Batman movie I'll enjoy, but I just think that the character is scary enough with his richtus smile.
and also by djosiana	May 21st, 2007 12:21:30 AM
good point, vampirepacman. What WAS everyone else expecting exactly? Other than, "not this?"
realism by Director17	May 21st, 2007 12:23:28 AM
is the best thing that happened to the batman franchise. You all had your rediculous cartoon joker before. If thats what you want watch the original film. This Ledger joker picture goes perfectly with everything Nolan set up for the universe in begins.
Why don't you all fuck yourselves!!!!!! by J-Dizzle	May 21st, 2007 12:23:31 AM
You muthafuckin cum guzzling pieces of maggot trash. I mean what the fuck are you fuckers doing on this smegging fucking piece of shit mutha fuckin site? You fuckers probably take it in the fucking ass on a daily fucking basis. I mean what the fuck??? I mean shit man! Fucking shit! What the fuck is wrong with you sons of motherless goats? Its a fucking cum guzzling piece of shit picture. I mean I fucking come on to this fucking piece of shit site to read some intellectual posts and instead I fucking have to read you fucking jack offs go at it like a fucking queer at a bratwurst sausagefest. God dammit! Really, muthafuckin god damn cum guzzling piece of shit it! Why the fuck do you retarded retardations have to fucking argue so muthafucking cum guzzling so much? You are the biggest douches in the fucking world! No you're a fucking douche, the other guy is muthafucking turd sandwich, and third guy is a just cum guzzler. Shit man! Muthafucking shit! Back to you fuckers!!!!!!!
Twitchy McGee by themanwhojaped	May 21st, 2007 12:23:39 AM
Agreed, I don't know why Morrison had to do that..
I don't know. by fluffybunnywhiskers	May 21st, 2007 12:25:05 AM
It's just fucking weird if you look at the whole promotion and the picture together. The site itself is all like making fun of Dent and such... so then you'd think when the picture comes up, it would be like a happy joker. You know, um, smiling. Like "look at me." Instead, I mean, he looks like really, um... not emotional at all. Which is what, I think, makes this picture seem sorta crappy.
Batman:The Animated Series by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:26:20 AM
That, Spiderman, and X-men we're the best cartoons shows in the 90's. That was a good time to be a kid.
poeticwarriorII by supermarch	May 21st, 2007 12:27:21 AM
Put down the 'bad boy ' thesaurus and think before you type. This is like watching an idiot savant have a fit minus the savant. Poo poo. Pee pee. I'm super clever right guys? No? awww Hulk sad.
ideally by djosiana	May 21st, 2007 12:27:40 AM
Hahaha...because, condescension AND sarcasm. Together. For the first time. But seriously, I'm curious, what was everyone else wanting? And don't post a picture, just say it.
Fuck this, I 'm gonna go listen to Partyman...... by Doc_Strange	May 21st, 2007 12:27:57 AM
All hail, the new king in toowwnnn. Young and old - gather round, yeaahhhh. Black n white, red n green. The funkiest man you've ever seeeeeen. PARTYMAN, PARTYMAAAN. Rock a party like nobody caaaan. Rules n regulations, no place in this nation. PARTYMAN PARTYMAAAN, party people say it now - yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah OOOOOWWWWW. Somebody holla if you wanna party.
Little J-Dizzle, If you don't like it.... by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:29:00 AM
GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE THEN!
i thought j-dizzle was being sarcastic by Director17	May 21st, 2007 12:31:52 AM
?
Poeticwarrior by J-Dizzle	May 21st, 2007 12:34:20 AM
You muthafucking retard, I was fucking defending you! Fucking cum guzzler! Out of 10 million fucking sperm and YOU were the fucking fastest???? And how is typing for a talkback equate to rubbing shit in my face? I fail to see the fucking connection, but then again your piece of shit logic probably blew out of your cum infested ass!
maaaayybe not by Director17	May 21st, 2007 12:35:29 AM
perhaps party man has the best idea
Wow, poeticwarriorII... by kintar0	May 21st, 2007 12:36:33 AM
you really got me there. And J-Dizzle, too. You truly are a titan among men.
Yes, Director17, I was being sarcastic by J-Dizzle	May 21st, 2007 12:36:48 AM
Plus, I have to maintain my reputation as the "AICN Talkback feud" instigator. This usually works on the Conservatives vs Liberals talkbacks.
Joker will be fine... by spectrebeeyatch	May 21st, 2007 12:38:13 AM
Jeez who really cares if he has scars or not? All that matters is how he works in the story. I'm guessing all of you guys loved the Adam West show and believe that is better because the Joker didn't have scars right. Calm down this will be the kick ass movie of next summer. It probably will be better then anything coming out this summer.
Well, if you compare the early work of Kane to...... by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:38:33 AM
Hemingway, you will find many differences in style. Yet, there rythm in dialouge is very......IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LITTLE J-DIZZLE? Go fuck yourself!
oh....cool by Director17	May 21st, 2007 12:41:05 AM
on a scale of 1-10 ....I approve. peace out mofos
And then follow it up with Trust....... by Doc_Strange	May 21st, 2007 12:41:17 AM
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lost.rules by J-Dizzle	May 21st, 2007 12:41:19 AM
You want me to get off this site? MAKE ME BITCH! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
And then follow it up with Trust....... by Doc_Strange	May 21st, 2007 12:41:31 AM
W, X, Y, z OOOOOHHHH, OOOOHHHH, OOOOHHHH!!! AHAAA. TRUST. WHo do ya. TRUST. What makes you a real lover? TRUST. I put this question to ya cuz I want you to be with me. Love. You cannot imagine. How much I wanna give to you. Hot. I'm gettin so excited. Just thinkin' about all we could do. Dig it now. Another world awaits us. Another power to see. Close. Don't worry about nobody else. From now on you'll be here with meee. TRUST. Who do ya? TRUST. What makes you a real lover? TRUST. I put this question to ya cuz I want you to be with meeeee. Money. How much'll make you happy? You can have it all if it'll suit you right. Love baby, you see nothing can take the place of you and me, kickin it tight. Come, it's easy. Just let yourself go, don't put up a fight. SEX. It's not that type of party, girl we're gettin' higher tonight. TRUST. Who do ya? TRUST. What makes you a real lover? TRUST. I put this question to ya cuz I want you to be with ME-EE-EE-EE-EE!!!
The picture really doesn't reveal enough... by Kemerton	May 21st, 2007 12:44:24 AM
I don't think that this promo picture is going to sway me one way or the other on The Joker. All we get a good shot of is the mouth/cheek scarring, and while I'd prefer an open, smiling mouth I'm sure we'll get plenty of those pictures, eventually. This is too much of a tease to be critiqued so severely. You can't even see his eyes because of the shadow. But it does look pretty frightening.
Oh, I get it. Sorry J-Dizzle by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:44:43 AM
my bad :)
The Joker = awesome!!! by m4st4	May 21st, 2007 12:44:58 AM
Blabling about something NOT GOOD here is just insane...Ledger is going to kick some serious ass and THE DARK KNIGHT is going to be THE BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE EVER! Except the third part... Gordon:''I never said thank you.'' Batman: ''And you'll never have to.'' ->This line made Begins so fucking good...And it's going to be better...much better Cheers from Croatia, Bat-fans! ; ))
"If It Breaks When It Bends..." by YokoTits	May 21st, 2007 12:45:15 AM
I like the scars. It one-ups Burton, adding a more gruesome physical and psychological element to the character. One can picture him removing his red hood, seeing his disfigured face for the first time, then taking a knife and adding the finishing touch, cackling breathlessly. What I dislike is the lipstick. Lending feminine or "queer" characteristics to a villain (to heighten his villainy?) is the saddest cliche of all. Finally, a Talkbacker once suggested that the Joker have a face full of chemical burns. Damn good idea, Talkbacker!
The Funny Thing Is...... by MasterSong	May 21st, 2007 12:47:01 AM
The people hating this fist pic will still see it. The people who like the look of this first pic will obviously see it. Too early for anyone to make a call to be honest. The film has not even wrapped yet !
"Why didn't someone tell me he had one of those.... by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:47:46 AM
things! Bob, gun. Going to need a moment or two alone, boys."
Hang on - I get it now by MasterSong	May 21st, 2007 12:52:01 AM
The Haters like the old Batman. Anything not in bright coloured, form fitting support tights is bad right ? Mwaa , kiss kiss princesses.
Overrated by AlwaysThere	May 21st, 2007 12:53:17 AM
Already you twits have overrated this movie and overhyped yourself. Congratulations.
Where's his nipples? by lost.rules	May 21st, 2007 12:54:31 AM
I'm not going to see any Batman film without nipples!
lipstick by djosiana	May 21st, 2007 12:56:27 AM
But it's not necessarily a cliche here--okay, I'm tired and not so articulate, wasn't the whole concept discussed in Arkham Asylum? Joker was wearing heels the whole time, not to be feminine or "queer" but to prove one of Morrison's points. I really like it.
Talkbackers suck by ScanCase	May 21st, 2007 01:02:24 AM
Thank god this movie is nearly gruanteed to make money. Because if it didn't the fucking studio would look here and make fucking Batman and Robin again. Do you guys really want to go that way agian because last time i checked everyone in the universe hated that movie. I like the realistic batman, it has brought more to the character than

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