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HEROES Gets Spin-Off!! 30 Eps Of OFFICE!! FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS To Friday Night!! STUDIO 60 & APPRENTICE Gone!! NBC FALL SLATE!!

Friday Night Lights renewed by Sidius	May 14th, 2007 01:05:34 PM
Is the best news I've had all day. Best new drama on network TV last year. I liked Studio 60 but I said it would be cancelled after wathing the first eps.
No Studio 60? by Coenbro	May 14th, 2007 01:07:41 PM
That's too bad.
STUDIO 60? by THE KNIGHT	May 14th, 2007 01:08:54 PM
It's gone?
second by nrn	May 14th, 2007 01:09:15 PM
second!
Is The Apprentice dead? by sparkflyer	May 14th, 2007 01:09:29 PM
Finally?
Way to copy and paste Herc by The Funketeer	May 14th, 2007 01:09:32 PM
Could you have possibly taken a minute to format those paragraphs?
FIRST? by david19	May 14th, 2007 01:11:08 PM
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NOPE by david19	May 14th, 2007 01:12:18 PM
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FIRST by spideyparker37	May 14th, 2007 01:18:33 PM
!!!!!!!!!
DAMNIT, NEVERMIND by spideyparker37	May 14th, 2007 01:19:30 PM
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Office by chrth	May 14th, 2007 01:22:28 PM
I think Herc is reading it wrong. It will not be 30 eps, it will be 30 half-hours. Five of the eps will consume two half-hours (i.e. be an hour), so there will be 25 eps.
bye studio 60 by Unnatural	May 14th, 2007 01:23:27 PM
Yet another show I enjoyed that was not sci-fi bites the dust. My final three network tv shows are The Office , 24 and Heroes. Soon, I will be all cable shows all the time. Bring on Rescue Me!
R.I.P. Studio 60 by Booster Gold Lives	May 14th, 2007 01:29:59 PM
I hate to see S60 get the axe, since I think it had a lot of promise. However, if killing it was the karmic price to pay for a FNL renewal, I'm OK with that.
Origins by lowman	May 14th, 2007 01:32:11 PM
So are theses Origins episodes going to be before the 2nd season, so these characters will be in the new season... or is this going to be during the 2nd season and they will be in the 3rd? That voting thing is kid of retarded, we will just end up with another blond bimbo who cant act just like Jessica/Nikki.
I enjoy The Biggest Loser.... by SydBarretsMyDad	May 14th, 2007 01:33:29 PM
mainly to see if the fat pretty chicks will become portly pretty chicks with too much skin.
On the Lot talkback by stlfilmwire	May 14th, 2007 01:36:50 PM
They just announced the semi-finalists. Is there gonna be a talkback?
Studio 60 and Arrested Development are parallels by zoltarthemachine	May 14th, 2007 01:41:43 PM
The problem with both Studio 60 and Arrested Development is that both shows weren’t designed for the average TV viewer. They were designed for people slightly (and I mean slightly) more intelligent. I’ll just briefly hit on the favorite criticisms of Studio 60. 1. Too liberal. This one is pretty funny, all things considered. The best part about someone complaining about the “liberal” bias of this show is that they can’t actually point to the bias but more of a general sense of bias. The reason for this is that most “left” or “right” labels are just that: labels without introspection. Regardless of a political slant that the writing may have shown, the critics fail to point out what is inherently wrong with a show that has a slant. Heaven forbid there exist a show about writers and entertainers that leans one way or another. Or, more appropriately, heaven forbid someone brandishing the “liberal” word actually have to back up their position rather than tossing the word out and relying on associations to do their work for them. 2. The dialogue. This one is great. We’ve all read posts from people complaining about the characters speaking in a way that “actual people” don’t. I would rather not watch a 60 minute show where people speak like an “average” person. For the love of God, do you realize how people speak on this forum? Other than being a psychology lab on the effects of anonymous actions, this rather popular forum is yet another exhibit on the deterioration of rational discourse. (Oddly enough, this ties in to my first point. Weird, huh?) 3. The seriousness of the subject. This complaint was interesting. A lot of people didn’t like the fact that most episodes were so heavy handed considering the fact that the show revolved around a sketch comedy program. This is crazy. Do you realize how many doctor/lawyer/police programs there are on at any given moment on primetime? Sorkin was bringing a level of gravity to a situation where people wouldn’t think it would exist. Nothing more. Obviously I could go on, but the lesson of the day is one that everybody already knows: the average viewer doesn’t like to actually be engaged. Lost, Heroes and 24 are engaging, but only because there is so much material for people to think about between the episodes, not as it is actually happening (though Lost is, thank God, changing that if the last few episodes are any indication). If you consider the average viewer it is a wonder that anyone thought Studio 60 ever had a chance.
The problem with Studio 60 by zacdilone	May 14th, 2007 01:49:22 PM
Was that these people considered themselves WAAAY too important, and their show was given too much weight. Add to that unfunny sketches (on what was supposed to be THE show on that network written by THE writers in Hollywood at the time), and the cumulative effect was too much to swallow.
"NBC DELIVERS THE QUALITY ONCE AGAIN THIS FALL" by RenoNevada2000	May 14th, 2007 01:51:18 PM
Then why are we getting such recycled crap as JOURNEYMAN and BIONIC WOMAN?
More Heroes? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! by newc0253	May 14th, 2007 01:52:01 PM
Now, if only they'd thought to do that for the 30-odd Lost castaways...
Oddly enough by RenoNevada2000	May 14th, 2007 01:54:31 PM
STUDIO 60 had 1 million more viewers than FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, but got axed. Probably due to the high talent cost...
Don't confuse 'too intellgent' and 'too smug' by jimmy_009	May 14th, 2007 01:56:34 PM
Nothing on Studio 60 could be considered the least bit intelligent. A 10 year old kid could watch it and understand it perfectly. What came across to the average viewer was the amount of SMUG that dripped off the screen when you watched it - from the out of touch writing to the one note acting. So they canceled a show you like. That must mean everyone that didn't like it is just too dumb to 'get it'. Sorry but it was just a bad show. The end. R.I.P.
Sure, more Heroes sounds good. by Cameron1	May 14th, 2007 01:57:09 PM
But I've heard it's going to involve the audience voting for which characters they like to be integrated in the original show. Ugh. Interactivity and storytelling need to be kept seperate for the most part.
Did Studio 60 win a Peabody award though? by jimmy_009	May 14th, 2007 01:58:59 PM
Friday Night Lights did. The difference between the two is one was actually good, and the other was junk. NBC is keeping their critically acclaimed shows regardless of the ratings, and I say good for them.
Whoa. Studio 60 and Arrested Development are not... by Cameron1	May 14th, 2007 02:01:28 PM
parallels. AD was maybe the 2nd or 3rd finest American comedy of all time and it didn't cost a small countires GDP to produce. Whereas Studio 60 was an ok show that cost about 3 times more than it should.
No law and order (regular)... by blacknoi	May 14th, 2007 02:02:13 PM
In the fall? I'm confused... so Law and Order is now on Sundays, but not coming back until after Football is over? Is that right?
Blah, blah, blah Studio 60 deserves cancellation by Mister Man	May 14th, 2007 02:04:10 PM
It is pretentious, and demeaning - regardless of the "intelligence" of the targeted viewer. The pilot was excellent - the following episodes, however, have steadily sunk into a murky glob of Hollywood political diatribes.
The problem with studio 60 by Dopenose19	May 14th, 2007 02:04:33 PM
Was that it actually (and unfortunately) assumed that people would have the ability and desire to pay attention to something for 60 minutes, and then be able to thoughtfully analyze what happened and apply it to the next episode. It was the sort of show, much like "West Wing" or HBO's "Deadwood", that tried to truly tell a story without painfully and obviously emphasizing everything that was taking place. It's a shame that the average TV viewer would rather watch Howie Mandel give awway money for an hour than thoughtful television.
Lets not overdo it on Office.. by Judge Briggs	May 14th, 2007 02:08:01 PM
Seriously... lets not milk the fuck out of this show or will suffer ... !!!! I mean, duh!
Fuck, disappointed about Studio 60... by DanielKurland	May 14th, 2007 02:09:55 PM
Not entirely surprised ,but still sad about. A Heroes spin-off, really? You're going to give people too much of it, until they're sick of it.
Thank God Deal or No Deal was renewed! by DocBosch	May 14th, 2007 02:24:42 PM
Whew! Load off my mind.
More Heroes? Less Studio 60? by indyit	May 14th, 2007 02:24:55 PM
Damn shame. I can't get enough of Heroes...but what makes it work is the ensemble cast and the writing made to fit the scenario. I loved The Companyman ep with the more emotional and narrow story...but will an anthology/origins thing work?? Let's hoep Kring has it in him. And as far as Studio 60 goes...I'll be honest, I don't live in the States and i'm not the smartest chip in the block..but i saw entertainment in the show .-. and something interesting. Maybe I didn't get the "liberal" stuff but it was a good show, and it was fun seeing Matthew Perry working in comedy again. Ahh well. Some good things are simply not meant to last .-. RIP AD as well sigh
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip by newkie brown	May 14th, 2007 02:25:06 PM
Well...cock. I knew it was a lost cause but I held out hope that Studio 60's obvious quality would save it. I thought it was near-perfect, and if I had one criticism, it was that we never revisited Judd Hirsch's Wes Mendell character. Never mind, I'm looking forward to the DVD. On to the next, Mr. Sorkin.
"Quantum Leap" and "Jake 2.0" by Hagakure	May 14th, 2007 02:37:51 PM
You ever get the feeling these scripts are just being fetched out of the dumpster of one studio and created as brand new pilots for another? I was upset that "Drive" was cancelled, but all I have to do is wait until next season when ABC will premier "Go Fast!"..Nathan Fillion starts as police officer who plays by his own rules who goes undercover in a race around the world to track down the people who killed his sister.
The original Office... by DocBosch	May 14th, 2007 02:38:48 PM
...lasted for a total of 7 1/2 hours. The new US season will be four times longer then the entire run of the UK series. I love the US Office, but it seems like it's in serious risk of over kill.
Sweet creamy jesus by notbad	May 14th, 2007 02:42:14 PM
Would someone please put a bullet in "E.R."? Why is this show still on the air? It's so bad that I can't even watch the commercials for this show.
I loved Studio 60... by xsi kal	May 14th, 2007 02:43:52 PM
...but even I knew it was gone when they yanked it off the air and decided they would re-air the remaining episodes 'later.' One of my favorite shows on television... which meant it had to die.
I was already to... by jimmy rabbitte	May 14th, 2007 02:45:11 PM
...launch into a diatribe against NBC for cancelling Studio 60; but then I remembered something. It was a show called Freaks and Geeks (which I didn't actaully watch, but... whatever). It had a rabid but (some would say) limited following. It was a show that tried to do something a little different from everything else that was on at the time. People loved it; and wanted like crazy to have a second season... so NBC cancelled it. This is the way NBC treats its' viewers... how could I have the nerve to be surprised that they axed S60? Oh... and so what if Criminal Intent is moving to USA, I'm sure they'll come with three more Law & Order shows to take it's place.
R.I.P. Studio 60 by IForgotAbout19	May 14th, 2007 02:48:42 PM
You will be missed.
So, you put Friday Night Lights, a story about.. by Toby Wan	May 14th, 2007 02:49:23 PM
high school football..on Friday night, when they actually PLAY high school football? That makes no sense. Dumb asses.
dogapeandman2 by david19	May 14th, 2007 03:02:49 PM
Don't like Christians, eh? I know some great desert property overseas where you would fit in nicely.
You people are really MISSING STUDIO 60? by LordEnigma	May 14th, 2007 03:04:11 PM
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! Studio 60 is a sham of a show that was written by two guys who are not INHERENTLY FUNNY! Tommy and Aaron are inadvertently funny. For a show like Studio 60 to work. It needed really funny people to write it. Instead, Aaron and Tommy, tried to WEST WING a show. When 30 Rock obviously set-up how this type of show would work. The thought that anyone is surprised or shocked by this schlocky show being cancelled, might be one of the more surprising things I have discovered today.
Yes, we are, LordEnigma... by -guyinthebackrow	May 14th, 2007 03:09:19 PM
Yes, we are. And... you can stay.
LordEnigma... by jimmy rabbitte	May 14th, 2007 03:12:58 PM
You're right to point out the shortcomings of S60. There's no doubt the show wasn't perfect; but I did find it interesting. I would have atleast liked to see it get another season. Especially since the rest of NBC's new slate of shows does look at all impressive. ...seriously The Bionic Woman? They cancelled it thirty years ago. A real gutsy move would have been moving Battlestar Galactica to the main network... instead of just trying to coast the "street-cred" of one its' cast members.
Fuck studio 60 by minderbinder	May 14th, 2007 03:16:29 PM
They had every opportunity and they blew it big time. Shows like West Wing have proved that people are willing to watch talky, smart shows. But there's a difference between smart and pompous arrogant asshole. I liked bits of S60, but it was way too preachy and generally a giant mess. You can't do that at three million an episode. That first season supposedly cost $100M to make. The only reason they're een finishing the last few episodes is because Sorkin's contract for the show made it cost just as much if they didn't air them. This show was an obvious casualty since the pilot aired.
Lord Enigma, Studio 60 wasn't a comedy by Big Jim	May 14th, 2007 03:26:50 PM
It wasn't supposed to be funny. It was a drama, like West Wing. However, they did hire Mark Mckinney in the later episodes as both a writer and perfomer. The show was greatly improved since he joined. NBC execs are stupid. Studio 60 didn't get the ratings, Black Donnellys didn't either, and I see Wedding Crashers is not on tonight (L&O episode instead). Maybe the reason why your shows suck in the ratings aren't the shows but the TIME SLOT. Move Studio 60 to ER's slot (like everyone here has been saying all season) and you will see its ratings soar.
Timeslot wouldn't have saved S60. by minderbinder	May 14th, 2007 04:05:37 PM
The show simply wasn't well-executed. Things like wsitching timeslots aren't going to help when the show itself is botched. With Arrested Development and Sports Night, blame the network. But this show was botched in the making.
Did those fucking morons can RAINES already?! by Uncle Stan	May 14th, 2007 04:06:00 PM
NBC execs are a bunch of dick-heads.
Seinfelds New Show? by onusbone	May 14th, 2007 04:13:02 PM
Am I the only one who read about that in the press release? Are they going to make a series of "minisodes" much like that first trailer? Could be funny...
Too bad about S60, Great move on The Office. by CatVutt	May 14th, 2007 04:13:59 PM
That show is poised be a huge hit at some point, it's just taking the mass viewing audience awhile to catch up to it. It may very well be this coming season.
an IT Crowd remake? WTF? by Jarek	May 14th, 2007 04:19:13 PM
I love the original series, but I don't know how well this will play stateside. Oh well, guess time will tell.
I don't see 'IT Crowd' on the fall slate by GregoryHarbin	May 14th, 2007 04:22:05 PM
I doubt I'm interested in it, but it's not in the schedule anywhere. Is it just a replacement show when something fails? I'll probably watch 'Journeyman' since it's on after 'Heroes,' but I doubt any of the other new shows will interest me. I don't expect 'Bionic Woman' to last more than a couple eps anyway. And 'Raines' was getting really good, sad to see it's gone.
And yes, it's 25 episodes of Office by GregoryHarbin	May 14th, 2007 04:24:30 PM
30 half-hours including five hour-longs means 25 episodes, with five 'extended' ones. And no, we can't have enough 'Office.' And yes, it's sad that S60 is gone. The show was getting its footing and would have had a great second season.
Office by Larry of Arabia	May 14th, 2007 04:30:45 PM
Great! They have to get as many eps in under their belt before Steven Carell and Fischer are too big to do it any more. Mark my word, after a few clunkers get cleared out of the things she has in the pipeline she's going to be big.
jason smilovic exec on bionic woman? by Charlie Murphy	May 14th, 2007 04:39:46 PM
i'm so fucking there. i'm pissed raines is gone, a little disappointed (but not surprised) friday night lights is on fridays, and very pleased with the extra office. all in all, nbc looks to be a good place to be come september.
NBC: You'll Be Sick of Us Yet! by tonagan	May 14th, 2007 04:44:10 PM
You'd think they'd show some restraint after the recent Law & Order: Trouble With Tribbles debacle.
Studio 60 deseves better by exie	May 14th, 2007 04:47:02 PM
Studio 60 deserves a 2nd season. What happens if it actually gets better ratings when they show the remaining episodes which won't be following Heroes. It's a smart show and it's loss this season when they pulled it for the Irish Sopranos was a big one. I really wish NBC and the networks would learn something from cable TV and rotate shows throughout the season giving them 13 episode runs. The 22-24 episode standard for network TV is prehistoric. HBO and Showtime have shown people will watch a series season in 13 weeks and wait another year for the new episodes. Shoot a 13 episode 2nd season of Studio 60. By the time you cancel most of the crap they are debuting because the ratings aren't boffo, you could slip in 13 episode season of something that will only have a bigger fanbase once the complete season is aired in it's entirety.
Better luck next show, Aaron... by tiredpm	May 14th, 2007 04:49:24 PM
...might we suggest you don't write angry next time? Studio 60 had the kernel of a good show and some of the actors placed around it were excellent, but the show just didn't come together. Oh, well. As long as Steven Weber moves on to bigger and better things that make better use of his talents I'll be happy -- he was the absolute breakout from the show.
The IT crowd by ElPaw	May 14th, 2007 04:58:08 PM
Won't work without Chris Morris.
Looking at the Thursday night schedule... by FilmNerdJamie	May 14th, 2007 05:11:33 PM
...is further proof that NBC doesn't know what the fuck they're doing! If they really want these comedies to build an audience, they should all together abandon their "Night of Comedy" bullshit and move them to a better timeslot (i.e. they'll be killed by GREYS, CSI, SURVIVOR, SHARK...yet again!) And yes it sucks that STUDIO 60 was axed. I was a huge fan, and its ratings were consistently better than 30 ROCK and FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS. But...yeah I knew it was toast too. At least we'll get the last 6 episodes, plus the inevitable DVD set.
Scott Bakula called by supertoyslast	May 14th, 2007 05:12:37 PM
He wants his show back.
Better idea than Caprica Spinoff by _Maltheus_	May 14th, 2007 05:35:57 PM
I'm usually against the idea of an early spinoff, but it seems like they're limiting this one to just six episodes and I think it's a very good idea that lends itself well to the show's format. It also allows them to test out new writers without fucking up season 2. People like me are also so starved for new TV in the summer that it's a good way to bring new people on board. Story aside, I've really liked the way they've handled Heroes, even down to the hiatus schedule. At no point, in the season, did I feel like I was being dicked around by the schedule. None of this taking a break between every episode or the extreme flip side, taking no breaks and waiting 8 months for a new ep. Just two reasonable short breaks in the entire run (I think), which seems to be the sweet spot. Knowing I'm gonna get some more over the summer makes it even better.
Studio 60 was killed by the Timeslot by Dreamwriter	May 14th, 2007 05:38:43 PM
Who in their right mind expected a 10 pm show to do well??! That's not primetime anymore folks, that's the grey area between primetime and latenight. I had 3 friends who loved the pilot and second episode of Studio, but didn't watch a single episode after that because it was just too late. Could it have still flopped in a good slot? Sure, but the studio didn't even try to find that out, they just pulled it and cancelled it, regardless of the fact that everything they replaced it with flopped just as badly. I too wonder what will happen when it shows in the ER slot after the other series' have ended.
30 Rock is still awesome!! by Russman	May 14th, 2007 05:39:55 PM
Welcome back Tina Fey!
The IT Crowd by supertoyslast	May 14th, 2007 05:49:21 PM
I'm wondering where they will end up putting THE IT CROWD. Because they don't have any half-hour slots where it could go mid-season. Unless SCRUBS or 30 ROCK comes off air for a while. They can't put it in a slot vacated by a failed hour-long either since, unusually, there isn't another new half-hour sitcom that it could be paired with. I get the feeling that this will end up being this year's THE SINGLES TABLE and not shown in the main season at all. Whatever happened to that? Ok, let's play the "first to get canned" game. It's a tough call since practically the entire schedule appears to be uninspired derivative crap. But that's no barrier to success! I'm gonna go for BIONIC WOMAN leaving our screens sharpish. As for the others, either JOURNEYMAN or CHUCK will probably go too as one channel cannot possibly support 3 new sci-fi-lite shows. I would like LIFE to succeed because it sounds halfway interesting. But since it's a show that seems to have some serious intent I don't rate its chances on network TV. The best bet for success there seems to be LIPSTICK JUNGLE. Sounds like SEX AND THE CITY without the sex. DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES viewers might tune in later on Sunday nights to try it out.
Dear NBC Executives... by Leafy McPlantsalot	May 14th, 2007 05:50:28 PM
thank you for having the balls to give me one more season of Friday Night Lights. I will savor every moment as i am sure this will be it's final run. You idiots could have an enormous hit, every one who sees this show loves it (the majority) if you gave it any kind of lead in FNL would be massive but putting it on friday at 10? how does one become a Network executive? it must not be as hard as i once thought because my little brother petey could tell you that the audience for FNL is 13-30, and all those people will most def be out friday nights at 10. UGH. so, thank you for giving me just a little more time to enjoy my new favorite show and your retardedness.
Also... by Leafy McPlantsalot	May 14th, 2007 05:54:01 PM
I've seen the IT crowd pilot....wow, so bad I can't find the words. It's shot in the standard three camera classic sitcom way and feels like something that would have debuted on Fox in the mid ninties and would have been called outdated then... "oh man, people call the IT guys because they don't know how to turn their computers on!!!" PS: I will always love the only episode of Lipshitz Saves the Universe ever made...RIP Lipshitz
Heroes: Origins in summer? by supertoyslast	May 14th, 2007 05:56:40 PM
I don't see anything there that suggests that it will be in the summer. I think Herc's right and that it will be shown when HEROES would usually be in repeats. Airing in the summer would surely be too late if they wanted viewers to vote for a new character to join season 3. Unless they had the character join halfway through season 3 rather than from the start.
How about 365 episodes of Office by White Goodman	May 14th, 2007 06:02:35 PM
I could watch this show everyday. "Go tell someone exactly what you're seeing right now."
Heroes overkill? by nemesisdarkside	May 14th, 2007 06:31:23 PM
Heroes' schedule was indeed awesome, I was actually surprised when the the Christmas break arrived that there had been no breaks. Same goes for Veronica Mars. A great alternative to the No Reapeats January start that's becoming more and more popular. I'm not sold on Heroes: Origins seems like milking. If it's just for the hiatuses (hiati?) than I guess it might not be too bad. I really hope Heroes doesn't have a lame 2nd season! P.S. RIP Studio 60, this crazy Christian is gonna miss you! ;)
Brit to US conversion by nemesisdarkside	May 14th, 2007 06:40:47 PM
Yeah, what's with all these shows next season being "US Versions" of Brit shows. Where's the creativity gone? IT Crowd, Footballer's Wives and Life on Mars! What next? Hustle: US Version?
Journeyman: Better than "Real Wedding Crashers" by ZeroCorpse	May 14th, 2007 06:52:34 PM
Even though it is just a repackaged Quantum Leap. At least NBC is being smart and keeping the geek audience they pick up with HEROES by slotting more SciFi after it. It was stupid to put "Real Wedding Crashers" after HEROES. One's for doofus types, one's for brainy geeks, and the audiences are NOT interchangeable.
Tina Fey dances on the grave of Studio 60 by MGTHEDJ	May 14th, 2007 07:34:42 PM
Why did this show get no love? Tina Fey had it killed. A year ago Studio 60 was to get the Thursday night slot. NBC pulled it because of Grey's Anatomy moving to Thursdays. NBC had to put it on Mondays because Sundays was NFL night. It suffered in the ratings. Tina Fey then launched a campaign inside NBC, openly dissed the show to the press in January, and lo and behold, in February 30 Rock is moved to Thursdays and Studio 60 does not get moved to Sundays to put a dent in that crap Sally Field/Calista Flockhart soap. Ratings were still stagnant, and Studio 60 was pulled in mid Feb. Meanwhile Fey and Baldwin and Tracy Morgan were on publicity tours to promote 30 Rock all March and April. Sorkin burned a lot of bridges with this show, and he may never work in TV again.-----later-----m
If Apprentice is gone, will Apprentice UK stay? by seven0	May 14th, 2007 07:52:47 PM
I love Apprentice UK, like most UK versions of US shows it is much much better than the Apprentice USA. I just hope the cancelling of Apprentice USA does not impact the UK version, that would be a shame.
Yea, Journeyman looks stupid... by twitchinmonkey	May 14th, 2007 08:04:05 PM
But I figure I'll give it a shot just because Lucius Vorenus is in it
BIONIC WOMEN looks great by McGsStepson	May 14th, 2007 08:10:51 PM
As in Katie Sackoff and Michelle Ryan. I can't wait for that show. And love HEROES doing 30 episodes (ok 6 HEROES: ORIGINS episodes). EAT IT LOST!
CHUCK by McGsStepson	May 14th, 2007 08:12:08 PM
Seriously, I think a lot of people will love this show. I've seen it and its pretty cool - don't know about how it will work over a long series but the pilot is pretty fantastic.
BUT WHAT ABOUT JOEY?!?!?! by BitterMan23	May 14th, 2007 08:12:12 PM
Its been on hiatus for almost 2 years now!!!
Quantum Leap 2.0 by Alientoast	May 14th, 2007 08:18:40 PM
I would so watch this show if instea of hologram Al they had Titus Pullo. "It appears these ruffians want to drive me out of this city!" "Ziggy says you an' me should crack some skulls!"
NBC Did'nt fire THE DONALD... by glodene	May 14th, 2007 08:18:43 PM
THE DONALD FIRED NBC!
Heroes: Origins another rip-off? by BrowncoatJedi	May 14th, 2007 08:28:23 PM
Will it rip-off X-Men, Lost, and Watchmen even more?
When do we find out about VM? by ElPaw	May 14th, 2007 08:36:02 PM
Is it Thursday?
Journeyman = QL 2.0, Chuck = Jake 3.0 by themikejonas	May 14th, 2007 08:50:17 PM
And RIP Raines...does that mean he's talking to himself now (like he wasn't before)?
Heroes: Voting by Arguendo	May 14th, 2007 09:09:25 PM
I vote for Jason Todd!
Office being bled... by Judge Briggs	May 14th, 2007 09:30:19 PM
Execs: Holy shit guys, I think we found our next Seinfeld! Execs: Now if we get the writers to write in shit into the dialogue, we'll hit pay dirt! Execs: Sir, if you wanted me, you could have me. Execs: More of Office! 30 Hours of Office with the word shit in it!
Chuck must be bionic if he can download data by kabong	May 14th, 2007 09:33:44 PM
into his brain from an email. Or maybe he took a quantum leap with Journeyman. These concepts are mind-boggling dynamite! Not-to-be-missed TV fare that is far beyond fair. The excitement is starting to build. Woo Hoo Hoo Hoo! Yeah, sarcasm.
Bionic Woman Preview... Pretty cool by modlight	May 14th, 2007 09:41:29 PM
And kudos to NBC for finally using their youTube connections right. http://tinyurl.com/3x7peb
more of the same... by dengreg31	May 14th, 2007 09:42:54 PM
god, I swear there are monkeys programming that network... "IT Crowd"... "Journeyman".. "Chuck"?? Really?? This is the best you can do? Seinfeld getting free pub for his animated movie and this is a "series"? When "The Bionic Woman" is by far the most promising thing on your fall schedule... you've got problems... Greg www.denvertvguy.com
Write-in votes by NudeGobblin	May 14th, 2007 09:44:42 PM
What we need to do when they have the voting is 'write in' our own nominations. eg "I don't want to see any of those lame-duck prats from Origins - Bring back Charlie" (or Lindeman or Ted or after next week Peter - whoops sorry...)
Creed: The Series by Larry of Arabia	May 14th, 2007 09:57:09 PM
A fish grabbin' money grubbin' bush peein' spectacular!
So they say they're bringing quality TV back.. by polyh3dron	May 14th, 2007 10:39:26 PM
WTF, you're just APING Quantum Leap and Bionic Woman when you get rid of The Black Donnellys which is on of the best shows to come on TV in a long time.. Never watched The Black Donnellys?? All 13 episodes are up now to watch on NBC.com for what I'm sure is a very limited time and also iTunes.
creed by onusbone	May 14th, 2007 11:05:54 PM
Creed is the man, followed closely by Kevin. I think Creed should get more love on the Office.
More Heroes? Yeah for Geek Mediocrity... by HappyHamster	May 14th, 2007 11:55:51 PM
More mediocre writing, mediocre B-list actors, and terrible special effects? Heh, I'll be watching every week (scratches Geek Itch), but I can't get too excited about it.
It's a Shame about Raines by oisin5199	May 15th, 2007 12:15:01 AM
just like the old Lemonheads song. I'm not going to get into another Studio 60 argument - everyone took a side on that a long time ago and no one is budging. I really enjoyed it and would have liked to see it grow, but it did have problems. Now Raines is more of a disappointment. Not that I had any illusions of its renewal, but I really liked that show. I was pleasantly surprised when I first saw it - and generally I'm not a fan of procedurals (Medium and Bones are as close as I get), but this really made me feel for the characters (the regulars and the guests) - and it was pretty dark and emotional in unexpected ways. I especially loved the title sequence. And Jeff Goldblum was brilliant. And it was neat seeing Nicole Sullivan in a 'non-wacky' role. Oh, well. I really hope these new shows aren't just ripoffs but actually have their own style.
Some good, some bad. by Prespez	May 15th, 2007 12:23:47 AM
I really wanted to like Studio 60, but the word used a few times on this thread summed it up...SMUG. Talking fast with the occasional big word does not make a show smart. Studio 60 had one of the best first 10 minutes I've seen in a long time, but after that it was inconsistent. The casting was off, the dialogue was forced and no one watched it...at least not enough Vs. how much it cost to make it. 30 Rock does it right, and thank you NBC for bringing it back! I'm not sure how i feel about the extra episodes of Office and Heroes. I think NBC has it backwards...people would rather watch 13-16-22 episodes of their shows uninterrupted...no long breaks...and quality episodes. This can spell disaster if those shows can't keep the quality up for that long. Time will tell. I was hoping Bionic Woman would be on AFTER Heroes, if not just for the BSG connection, it has great potential.
Friday Night Lights = amazing by symphy	May 15th, 2007 12:39:54 AM
I'm ecstatic that we'll get a second year. And frankly, with my Replay, why would I care what night it's on? :)
More Friday Night Lights by Volstaff	May 15th, 2007 04:17:43 AM
and Heroes is a good thing. I both liked and hated Studio 60. The writing was awfully fucking pretentious at times, but I did like some of the characters. What killed the show for me was basically after seeing them rehearse their sketches i just couldn't believe the premise. the sketches just weren't that funny. The only one I can remember is the sketch they were working on that involved Santa and Chris Hanson from Dateline. The problem I think is Sorkin and crew started believing their own hype. " I'm Aron fucking Sorkin, anything i touch will surely turn to gold!" Bleh..
Apprentice by paulrichard	May 15th, 2007 04:20:21 AM
I seem to remember Burnett being interviewed somewhere and saying even if NBC cancels the show, he'll take to another network. I'm sorry I can't remember where I read this so I can't provide a link.
SORKIN! GO WRITE FEATURES, BABY! by HostileOrganismX	May 15th, 2007 06:13:27 AM
The one hour television format must be exhausting to write. And I wonder if cranking-out-the-pages came at the expense of quality control. But writing a feature, you can think and chill and get high (but not too high, you still need to type!), then turn out a tightly controlled piece of work, full of great characters and crisp dialogue. That's what I'd do, if I didn't have to work at Wal-Mart, tomorrow.
The Problem w/ S60 by ZeroWolf	May 15th, 2007 08:32:49 AM
was that it tried to capture the "behind the show" antics of SNL, but unfortunately, it seemed that Sorkin was using the modern SNL setting as his backdrop/main plot driver. Now, had he used the SNL from the age of Gilda Radner and Belushi, the show might have done a heck of a lot better. I mean god, half the acting sucked on S60. Matthew Perry always seemed like he was just reading lines as himself and not the character, and the guy from West Wing was basically reprising his role with a different name since he plays both characters exactly the same. Oh and since all the fanboys and crying foul about the cancellation of S60, remember, it may not have been the execs at NBC who killed it, but rather a certain Baldwin who wanted out of his contract that perpetuated this whole mess.
QUE BIGGLES! by biggles2_22	May 15th, 2007 08:38:43 AM
Just kidding. Sorry you Sorkin luvas. It'll free him up to work on Billary '08. Hey libs, 30 Rock is here at least until spring of next year! You're gonna owe me $20 Wonka. But I tell you what, if Baldwin self-destructs (we made the bet before his loving bon mot to his daughter) and they cancel the show, I'll let ya off the hook.
the it crowd should come with a health warning by emeraldboy	May 15th, 2007 10:04:59 AM
Episode one will have you laughing alot. Episode two will have laughing all though not as much as Episode one. Episode three will have you laughing at lot lees than the first two. 4. a sense of frustration creeps in. Episode 5. you will get the sense that this actually pretty much a mirth free zone. Episode 6 will have tearing your hair out. How do I know all this. Cause I Saw the original on Ch4. The writers were Linehan and Matthews and any sense that these two had another father ted on there hands quickly deflated as did the viewing figures. This was a massive Wasted opportunity. The only good that came out of it were the three main cast members. It was pitiful to watch as these fine actors struggled the best they could with the material. I loved the opening slagging between the two and the horror when they meet there boss. Who is as utterly useless as they are but then this went downhill really rapidly.
Bionic Women Looks lame by erichaislar	May 15th, 2007 10:46:41 AM
the only cool thing about the preview was she was fighting starbuck.
Note to Sorkin by emeraldboy	May 15th, 2007 11:56:49 AM
You will never have the west wing again. Dont copy it. DOnt even try. It happens to all artists. Even Andrew lord Webber, as they call him knows that he will never have another musical like phantom again and he knows he is not capable of it.
I always have to laugh about transporting UK shows to t by skimn	May 15th, 2007 01:57:29 PM
as though its something new. Ever hear of a little show called "All In The Family". Or "Sanford and Son"? Yea those studio heads can't do anything original, they have to repeat practices that were done 35 years ago.
Rte bought Friday night lights by emeraldboy	May 15th, 2007 02:02:48 PM
and put it 1 am.
Official Heroes DVD Release Date by glodene	May 15th, 2007 04:03:32 PM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/ne wsitem.cfm?NewsID=7322
LordEnigma, you are so right... by sparkflyer	May 16th, 2007 12:04:35 AM
...about Studio 60. Not funny.
And another thing... by sparkflyer	May 16th, 2007 12:05:34 AM
Studio 60 would have only lasted two weeks if it weren't for Sorkin's name.
their website ain't working... by lynxpro	May 16th, 2007 12:14:37 AM
Trying to watch Ep. 22 legitimately on the NBC website and it won't load properly.
sparkflyer by biggles2_22	May 16th, 2007 08:17:47 AM
Studio 60 could have lasted for two seasons if it WEREN'T for Sorkin's writing!
DON'T BE AFRAID, HERC! by biggles2_22	May 16th, 2007 08:19:21 AM
LOST TALK-BACK NOW!
How will Trump spin THE APPRENTICE's cancellation? by FilmNerdJamie	May 16th, 2007 04:28:52 PM
And if 30 ROCK continues to generate shitty ratings like they have so far, it will be cancelled this time next year...
Studio 60 by stvnhthr	May 16th, 2007 06:16:42 PM
The problem wasn't it was too liberal or too smart. It just wasn't very good. I really wanted to like it, but it just never clicked, seemed more like a Hollywood vanity project than anything else.
Blow Chucks 2.0 by cornstalkwalker	May 19th, 2007 01:42:53 AM
I thought they already did that show on UPN. Man, there might be one new good show this fall on all the networks. Perhaps the Heroes spinoff. I don't feel excited about any of the new shows. Well, I guess I'll just have to wait till this summer when the pilots get leaked to the net to see if anything is worth my time.

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