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"New Cast And Plotlines"!?!? TERMINATOR Reborn Again (Again)!!

FUCKIN' WANK by Cameron1	May 10th, 2007 08:24:34 AM

first by RokurGepta	May 10th, 2007 08:24:36 AM
read this last night at darkhorizons
Milk it for all it's worth... by RowanM	May 10th, 2007 08:26:12 AM
Um... yeah
missed it by that much by RokurGepta	May 10th, 2007 08:26:13 AM
only reason I didn't get first is cause I actually typed a message
Sounds like it could work but what about Mikey Beihn? by boyblue	May 10th, 2007 08:27:14 AM
His character would be the main link between the original continuity and this New continuity, it would be nice if Reece was played by the same actor but I cant really see it happening. If he doesnt come back does any one else think Timothy Olyphant looks like Micheal Beihn??
so... he won't be back? ... by jimmy rabbitte	May 10th, 2007 08:32:52 AM
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Has Potential by MightyOs	May 10th, 2007 08:32:53 AM
All they need to do is use some cunning CGI to replicate Arnie's face from back in the day to create a Terminator army. Then use that age regression technique from X3 on Michael Biehn. Get rid of 'the nostrils' guy from T3 and give the job to someone who can play a baddass take-no-shit resitence leader. As a Terminator fan I hope they don't screw this up. And finally we might see a film set entirely in the future!? How cool would be an all-out war with T100s 1000s and X's? Get your hating out of the way now but try to imagine the fun that they could have with this film. :)
Rule number 1 of how to get a great cast! by boyblue	May 10th, 2007 08:33:18 AM
Get Marvel to part fund as thats where all the talent is these days!
the point being? by filmcoyote	May 10th, 2007 08:36:36 AM
for "chance to reinvent" read "couldn't get any of the original players back". Restarting Terminator is a horrible idea. The original is an 80s classic, the sequel plays a little differently but is on a par with the first - i thought it was better for about a decade but as time has worn on i appreciate the simplicity of the pounding original all the more. But T3 sucked and Terminator without Schwarzenegger? Hell they might as well make a PG13 Die Hard, do a Snake Plissken film without Kurt, or...oh hell, never mind!
Whis is AICN loading SOOOO SSSLLLLOOOOOWWW by RokurGepta	May 10th, 2007 08:46:58 AM
the pages are loading as fast as a dead turtle
another Terminator film would be like broken pencil: by newc0253	May 10th, 2007 08:47:59 AM
utterly pointless.
at least you can sharpen a broken pencil by RokurGepta	May 10th, 2007 08:50:40 AM
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"And then you say.." by brock landers baby	May 10th, 2007 09:09:43 AM
Ooh what a lovely tea party!
I think the server has been utterly swamped... by Sledge Hammer	May 10th, 2007 09:12:40 AM
...since the word of Willis actually posting in talkback started to spread far and wide.
filmcoyote by KillDozer	May 10th, 2007 09:18:06 AM
I totally agree...except I liked T3. Maybe I should watch it again and see how it holds up...
Too late for a Future War movie by eg4190	May 10th, 2007 09:24:12 AM
It should've been made in 1996, when Cameron would have needed to use the same cool practical effects he used in T2. A cut-rate T4 made now is just going to have lots and lots of faceless crap CGI like we saw during the Future War scenes in T3. And they'd better not cast Michael Biehn. That de-aging effect from X3 was cool but distracting for a five minute prologue sequence. If applied to an entire feature length performance, it would be maddening trying to constantly find the seams.
MADTV Skit by MRJONZ72	May 10th, 2007 09:31:34 AM
It's been years since I see this skit, I remember watching this episode, the XMAS special. It also had one of the Rudolph specials on here, but I cant remember if it was Raging Rudolph, or The Reinfather.
T3 = MUCH better then it should have been. by kinghenryVIII	May 10th, 2007 10:09:21 AM
Still pissed off about Die Hard being PG13. I was really hoping for some liberal use of "cock sucker" and "butt fucked" and what not .... Guess I should just watch a Ben Stiller movie.
Nick Stahl could play John Connor again though by Demosthenes2	May 10th, 2007 11:30:22 AM
I like him...
Terminator 4 without Arnold? FORGET IT. by performingmonkey	May 10th, 2007 11:38:07 AM
Every Terminator movie needs 'SCHWARZENEGGER' in big letters on the poster. Arnold needs to be in the movie. Otherwise do NOT make it. But if they really MUST make it without him, pay him money to use his image from previous movies and somehow make it work.
Gritty-as-hell war film would be kinda cool by Boondock Devil	May 10th, 2007 11:51:42 AM
If they're going to do future Terminator movies they have to scrap the time travel storylines. You can only send out more and more advanced terminators so many times before it gets plenty old. I like the idea of making a hard-R rated war film of humanity vs machines. I'd like to get a trilogy of films seeing the beginning of the war to the (finally) very end. Also, it could be done without Scwarzenegger but it'd be a nice bonus to atleast throw in a cameo.
TONITE, WE DINE IN HELL!!! by Stuntcock Mike	May 10th, 2007 12:23:36 PM
Ian Mcshane as John Conner.
after the god aweful Terminator 3 this could be good by Datascream	May 10th, 2007 01:26:06 PM
It certainly couldn't get any worse. I honestly refuse to accept T3 as part of the Terminator trilogy. Way too silly and too much taken from the 2nd movie. Nothing original about a female terminator that's part T800 and T1000. Too much "Let's take it up a notch dude!!!", gimme a break.
What The Hell Happened To "No Fate But What We Make"? by uss cygnus	May 10th, 2007 01:29:46 PM
There should have been no T-3. The whole message in T-2 was that "There is no fate but what we make", meaning NOTHING is inevitable (save for death and taxes). The whole mythology of the pair of films was shattered by "Judgement Day is Inevitable." Such complete and utter bullshit. They HAD to start the war. They HAD to have Skynet be built and become self-aware. They HAD to do some kind of morally relativistic bullshit about "See! the military and computer automation is EEEVIL!" There was a perfect symmetry to the two films that in no way needed the third. T4 is The Matrix Revolutions. Check, please.
Ha ha, Merrick made a funny by MikeTheSpike	May 10th, 2007 01:31:34 PM
Good job there, raggin' on the guy's last name. Champagne all around!
I always thought the Matrix by CherryValance	May 10th, 2007 01:38:16 PM
was what would have happened after the machines took over in the Terminator series. Anywho, I'm not interested. As far as I'm concerned a Terminator movie without Arnold is blasphemy.
Terminator franchise dead. by Darth Fart	May 10th, 2007 01:50:39 PM
There are no stories to tell - it's all been. Showing the war is nice and all, but the fact that we only see glimpses gives it that mystique quality.
I'm' with everyone else--who cares about this stuff? by Mr Incredible	May 10th, 2007 02:09:15 PM
It won't be long until someone will "reimagine" ROBOCOP. Let this stuff die and move on to something original.
no no no fellas...T4 = EPISODE 1 by Mike_D	May 10th, 2007 02:57:02 PM
get it? kinda like a prequel? except in the future? goes cross-eyed
terminator is dead by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	May 10th, 2007 04:05:36 PM
No Arnold, no Cameron, no interested anymore.
If T2 could be made then T3 should as well by prince_fufu	May 10th, 2007 04:06:02 PM
I remember in T1 when Kyle was captured by the police and he was being interviewed/grilled. They asked him why didn't other bad guys come back, why did they only send one. He said (and I'm paraphrasing from memory) Because we had won, the machines had lost and Skynet only had time to send one machine through to change the outcome before the humans blew up the time machine. That's why I never really understood T2, they didn't really go into how another was sent. Please correct me if I am wrong.
THE TERMINATOR WILL TAKE THE FORM OF A CLOUD by Pound Sand	May 10th, 2007 04:12:18 PM
And somewhere, Kurt Russell will be laughing
If the're gonna make T4 set in the future... by gusborwig	May 10th, 2007 04:34:00 PM
Michael Biehn better fucking be in the movie. They dont have to show him close up or anything, but I want to see Kyle Reese being put into the time displacement machine and John Connor look at him with so much sadness because hes sent his dad into the past on a suicide mission to save his mother. They do this one little thing, maybe a tiny cameo by Schwarzenegger and I'll be happy.
I always thought a future war movie would be cool by Gozu	May 10th, 2007 04:42:08 PM
But they'll fuck it up.
What About Cameron by Mad-Maximus	May 10th, 2007 04:54:16 PM
You would think James Cameron would have bought the rights back. I can just imagine what he would have done with T4 and so on, especially if he used the new 3D tech he has been developing.
Fuck this, I say bring back Eddie Furlong by Doc_Strange	May 10th, 2007 05:17:04 PM
Despite his real life problems, he could totally pull it off. The fact that Nick Stahl was cast as Conner killed T3, but the movie itself sucked ass anyway. I say they cast Furlong and get a capable director and sci-fi screenwriter who'll do justice to the franchise if there's even a franchise anymore.
The original T2 script kinda answered fufu's question by eg4190	May 10th, 2007 05:27:46 PM
There was originally an extended Future War sequence, in which we saw exactly how the Resistance defeated Skynet and gained access to the time displacement equipment. Kyle is sent back first, and John explains Kyle's fate to another soldier. John then looks at a bunch of T-800 models on an assembly line, trying to figure out which one he remembers from his youth -- an interesting idea, because whichever one he picks is the correct one. It is therefore implied that Kyle thinks there was only one Terminator sent back in time, because it's vital to his mission that he impregnate Sarah (this also explains why John didn't just send another T-800 back to 1984). John knew all along that Skynet managed to send two Terminators back, so he takes the necessary steps to deal with it. I'm actually glad they didn't include this scene, because it's too deterministic.
MAdtv by Alientoast	May 10th, 2007 05:49:04 PM
That Jesus skit was one of the only good ones to come from that show, besides the classic Raging Rudolph ;) Thanks for reminding me of that one. "Who the f*k are you?" "I'm Yukon Jack, the best hitman in the north" blows Santa's brains out*
Clueless T3 Bashers Ancient History by Roboteer	May 10th, 2007 06:27:42 PM
After a lot of bad press mostly because Cameron dropped out, because of the huge budget, and because of Ahnuld's age and politics, T3 was widely predicted the can't-miss bomb of 2003. Apparently that's as far as some TBers got, because it totally surprised on the upside with good acting from the non-cyborgs, a sense of humor, good FX that wasn't all CGI, a chase scene that put MATRIX to shame, and a surprise non-Hollywood ending faithful to the original material. Besides Getting 71% Fresh on RT and making almost a half billion worldwide, anyone who got past yet another Cameron no-show wouldn't flaunt their ignorance saying it sucked. Mostow did good, and at least he made it, which can't be said about Cameronwho any more these days. T3 was a worthy contribution to the franchise, overcame incredibly bad buzz, kicked ass, and was successful in a variety of ways. T4 should be so good.
I just pretend T3 didn't happen. by Ranson	May 10th, 2007 07:09:37 PM
Works for me.
Who will play John ? by Logan_1973	May 10th, 2007 07:26:21 PM
Edward won't dry out and Stahl flat-out sucked. And T3 HAD to happen. Duh !
This is almost as upsetting as... by JackTheMime	May 10th, 2007 07:49:01 PM
... finding blood in your stool. And T3 was too "T.V." for my tastes.
Can't be as bad as.... by Spidey3SUCKED	May 10th, 2007 07:59:05 PM
Wait for it...... Spider-man 3. Horseshit of the highest order.
Terminator 3 is a very underrated film. by DARTH VOODOO	May 10th, 2007 08:25:37 PM
I enjoyed T3 as much as just about any summer blockbuster of the last few years. T3 is better than Spiderman 3 both of the Pirates of the Carribean films. Both of the Matrix sequels. Should I go on?
T3 contradicts T2... by Christopher3	May 10th, 2007 08:43:16 PM
But T2 contradicts the first Terminator, which essentially ends with the message that fate is inescapable.
How they should have ended the Terminator saga... by thecomedian	May 10th, 2007 08:57:34 PM
I always thought the logical way to do a Terminator film completely set in the future would be to have John Connor mortally wounded in the beginning of the movie and his only choice to save himself would be to have his people put his brain inside of a T-100. So essentially the story would come full circle. John Connor himself would become the Terminator. But Arnold's too old and I don't think he could pull it off.
Do it right! by bamboogrove	May 10th, 2007 09:36:54 PM
Either leave the Terminator saga alone, or do the shit right. Everyone has been wanted a "future war" movie since 1992. Now they have the technology to make it cool. I don't want to see anymore Terminators traveling back in time, getting sunglasses and wounding a bunch of cops. Future war or bust. I was SO disappointed with the brief, actionless future war shot in T3. So much potential...
I really REALLY love Terminator 3. by Cotton McKnight	May 10th, 2007 10:17:50 PM
I am its biggest advocate. Quite frankly, it blew me away- I had NO idea that the new people would have the guts to actually do judgment day. And the way they tied everything together was absolutely brilliant. In many ways, it mopped up a lot of Cameron's messes in T2.
Why not do Robocop Versus Terminator? by Johnno	May 10th, 2007 10:19:47 PM
I hear those versus movies are all the rage these days! Plus I only have the first comic and would like to know how it ends...
I say go for it by Neo Zeed	May 10th, 2007 10:24:23 PM
Besides, T3 already sucked. they might as well go for broke.
Please get Brad Fiedel to do the music.T2 music rocked. by GibsonUSA Returns	May 10th, 2007 10:39:33 PM
A new on-screen case, but an old face for composer, please. The theme music must reign.
Skynet be dumb by EdRyder	May 10th, 2007 10:55:47 PM
Why didnt it ever think to go the First Contact route and enslave mankind in the past?You could combine everyones favorite current fads-Prequels+Pirates, add some endoskeletons in there with patches over one eye and your Golden!!
Made for TV by a rolling stone	May 10th, 2007 11:10:01 PM
This could be our new Quantum Leap. Time travel 1-hour drama.
Damn! by LonelyComic33	May 10th, 2007 11:31:30 PM
They should pit a Human Arny against terminator Arny. Now that would be a good premise!
T-2 3-D is the third Terminator movie in my book. by Mace Tofu	May 11th, 2007 12:14:55 AM
The "official" 3rd movie. Are they ever putting that short out on DVD?
T5: How John Connor Aced Calculus by Doctor_Sin	May 11th, 2007 12:33:49 AM
Dear god, why? Why? WHY??? Can we stop the self-referential mythos crap??? The shark has been JUMPED.
T6: John Connor Sprouts Pubes by Doctor_Sin	May 11th, 2007 12:34:19 AM

T7: John Connor Grows A Mullet by Doctor_Sin	May 11th, 2007 12:35:22 AM

T8: John Connor Gets Laid by Doctor_Sin	May 11th, 2007 12:36:06 AM

T9: The SMS War by Motoko Kusanagi	May 11th, 2007 01:10:42 AM
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T10: Total Fucking Destruction by Motoko Kusanagi	May 11th, 2007 01:11:11 AM
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Not excited at all by DanielAlexander	May 11th, 2007 01:41:08 AM
Terminator...meh. But who knows, it all change depending who they get for a director, DP and cast.
RYAN GOSLING as JOHN CONNOR!!!! by wackybantha	May 11th, 2007 02:37:50 AM
He's a damn good actor and close to his thirties, maybe. Anyhoo, T4 will be CRAZY DELICIOUS!!!
Of course James SAWYER Ford could do it, too. by wackybantha	May 11th, 2007 02:39:17 AM
Aw, cast whomever the hell ya want ya greedy BASTARDS!!!
I will watch this if... by Franklin T Marmoset	May 11th, 2007 02:48:57 AM
They reboot the whole thing and make it about robots from the future who come back in time to hunt and kill The Kaiser Chiefs. I'll give you RUBYFUCKINGRUBY, you annoying pack of cunts.
No Cameron = No Terminator by CuervoJones	May 11th, 2007 07:00:34 AM
T3 = caca
Terminator 3 was silly. by Conan_the_Humble	May 11th, 2007 07:04:51 AM
Just thought I'd be GL to the punch... Actually I didn't mind the movie and the ending rocked. Cheers.
Pointless, don't bother making them by Steve Rogers	May 11th, 2007 08:06:26 AM
The whole Terminator thing has run its course. Without Cameron was stupid, without both Cameron and Arnie it is dogwank.
Sorry but the star of terminator was by kingoflight	May 11th, 2007 08:41:56 AM
The terminator. The humans in the story are bullshit no one wants to realate to the humans in this franchise because they are weak. Unless they are hatching a plot to get another terminator on the human side of the war i won't care for this film as much. infact its gonna suck watching a bunch of humans blowing up terminators. The only film that would be good for the future world of terminator is the one where the machines win.
I love T3, at least in concept by INWOsuxRED	May 11th, 2007 09:10:51 AM
There are a few parts that bug me, but that is true with almost any film. T3 had the balls to blow up the world before blowing up the world was cool. Thats how all movies should end, especially romantic comedy and documentary films.
this will probably live or die based on the robo-people by INWOsuxRED	May 11th, 2007 09:12:55 AM
If they get a Robert Patrick or an Arnold, it should be good. If the cast The Rock, or some bullshit like that it will suck. I'd be happy if Stahl came back, but there isn't anyone that can't be replaced in this series. They should have left Arnold out of the third film.
I have been waiting for the man vs machines war by colivo	May 11th, 2007 10:31:21 AM
This storyline has been sitting out there since 1991, and I think they wasted T3 by doing a rehash, instead of jumping to the war of man vs machines. This story wont appeal to the masses, but that will make it better cause they won't cater to the kiddies like Lucas did with the Prequels. To the creators of this project, PLEASE FOCUS ON CHARACTERS!!!!! Sure you need cool action, and cool effects, but don't overshadow the characters. There are so many summer movies now that wow you with cool effects, and forget about the characters, and are forgettable years later.
What does "rag-tag" mean anyway? by tonagan	May 11th, 2007 11:37:17 AM
What a silly word.
Rag-Tag by MarkoOhNo	May 11th, 2007 01:16:46 PM
It's a game homeless people play to take their mind off of their situation... kinda like capture the flag.
To eg4190 by prince_fufu	May 11th, 2007 01:20:50 PM
Thanks for the reply, I've often wondered about that. So, to clarify, Skynet sent back the first terminator, then the resistance got to the time machine and sent back Kyle, then the T-1000 somehow overcame the resistance, reprogrammed the time machine for a later date and went back, then the resistance pulled itself back together and sent back good-guy T-100 to help stop the T-1000? Then somehow the girly terminator went through and yet again the resistance sent another T-100 back to help? You know thinking about it that way, it's probably good they kind of glossed over all that. PS. The only bad scene that bothered me in T3 was when she took over the cars with nanobots? and had them chase Connor, they weren't even automatic cars, some were stick shift, I call b.s. on that. They could have easily had humans chasing them via an APB and came out with the same effect without being stupid.
T-2 by disfigurehead	May 11th, 2007 01:36:39 PM
T-2 was the high water mark for the series. T-3 was pointless.
Terminator 4 by Reznik	May 11th, 2007 03:11:04 PM
please... no more Terminator movies... please I'm begging you.
Make T4 just like 300 by Reznik	May 11th, 2007 03:49:03 PM
millions of terminators, only a few hundred humans... que Terminator theme. Action! or just dont make anymore terminator movies... that would be just as good. Btw I loved the first 2 movies. I just really cant stand the guy who played J. Connor in the 3rd movie.
T4 by THEGODFATHERs	May 11th, 2007 05:35:34 PM
So at the end Arnie could be in it just that they will use the de-ageing process like in X-3
T11: Arnold Is a Good Guy In This One, Too by Doctor_Sin	May 11th, 2007 07:16:52 PM

If JC is 30ish, then Kyle Reese could be youngish too. by kabong	May 11th, 2007 10:21:19 PM
Not that I really care. Whatever happened to Michael Edwards? He was great in his one scene as JC.He was exuding authority. And that scar was better than Plissken's eyepatch.
prince tofu by Ikaruga	May 12th, 2007 04:41:28 AM
In the Terminator 2 arcade game, the time machine belongs to SkyNet, and it's the resistance which somehow hijacks it in order to send the T-800 after the T-1000. That "somehow" in the arcade game involves dozens of quarters and assloads of bullet and rocket attacks at enemy weakspots. :P Anyhoo, a Terminator set in the post-apocalyptic future is what I've always wanted. But setting a story in a weird sci-fi world is usually a bad idea when it comes to mass appeal. Terminator movies always set things right in modern day stuff. But, maybe there will be lots of settings in destroyed major cities. That would be cool, watching the Resistance battle Terminators in a nuked Los Angeles, with ruined landmarks and what not.
yipee by misnomer	May 12th, 2007 05:50:18 AM
with all these sequels now the terminator can go the way of the aliens and predators!!!! sweet!
Better to by RogueWarrior65	May 12th, 2007 09:17:15 AM
take off and nuke the site from orbit...it's the only way to be sure.
I'd like... by radio1_mike	May 12th, 2007 09:40:49 AM
I want a future war movie(s)... Maybe two more. #1 would show the beginning of the Resistance, and the fight that Mankind has to have just to survive after Judgment Day. Show me some mop-up action by SkyNet. #2 would jump a few years later showing the Final Battle and Man's Victory over Machine. It could even show John Connor or his wife taking out the last Super-Duper-Duper Terminator. Or the first Organic Terminator. Or tie it into the Matrix with SkyNet developing the Matrix and battery power....
Without Cameron and Arnold by Orbots Commander	May 12th, 2007 12:26:30 PM
the Terminator movies are basically DOOM. Re-booting or re-imagining a tired franchise sounds, well, tired. This what happens when hedge funds get into the movie business, which Halcyon basically is. They're like Legendary Pictures (that financed SUPERMAN RETURNS); it's private hedge fund looking to strike it rich in the movie business by trying to revive old franchises. It's what has been done in the corporate world the past few years: private funds buying up once profitable but tarnished or fallen brands.
Nice shot at Superman Returns by Napoleon Park	May 12th, 2007 02:43:50 PM
Specifying Batman, Bond and maybe Hulk as the successuful 'reinventions' is a great swipe at all the many times that idea's failed (Superman, Apes, Kong, etc.) Still, a total recasting of Spider-Man might reinvigorate that failed franchise. I'm glad I read/skim entire threads before I post, I was totally wondering about "RagTag" as a street game, sort of a cross between tag and keep-away. But it's been covered. Yesterday; RoboCop vs. Terminator. Today; Borg vs. Cylons.
how does T$ tie in by Napoleon Park	May 12th, 2007 03:00:55 PM
with the Sarah Connor Chronicles? On the Kids WB @ CW, the Legion of Superheroes go back and pick up young Superman after he's designed a costume but before he's gone public in it, as he's getting ready to move from Smallville to Metropolis. The year he spends in the future gives him the training he needs to be a public costumed hero. So it's the link between the end of "Smallville" and the start of "Superman: The Animated Series". On "The Batman" season finale (series finale?) J'onn J'onzz approaches Batman to join thier fledgling 'league' (apparently in the works since Smallville) and he joins, linking The Batman to the beginning of Justice League/JLU. Meanwhile, it's been informally established that the Teen titans series was set a few years between Batman and Robin: TAS, and the JLA/LJU shows. (Robin os more confident and capable on Titans, supporting characters and villains who appeared on both (Aqualad, Dr. Light) are shown as older on JLU). Sorry to bore and non-comic-geek Terminator fans, but my point is, it's fun when various versions of a property have at least an informal but logical connection. And if being a sci-fi geek isn't fun for you, you;re doing it wrong. If we have any fan writers here, someone needs to write a fan-fic in which Desmond (visions of the future) and Allison Dubois (precognitive dreams) see a future in which Superman, Dr. Who, Sam Beckett, the T-100, the guys from The Time Tunnel series and Ando all cross paths. Let me know where you post it when it's done.
T4 : Live Free or I'll be back... by Alonzo Mosely	May 12th, 2007 05:10:08 PM

So Spidey 3 is a bit of a letdown and by Trader Groucho 2	May 12th, 2007 10:53:26 PM
the first reviews on Shrek 3 ain't exactly enthusiastic. Here's a great idea. Do something ORIGINAL, that isn't based on ANYTHING ELSE. Like maybe roll the dice on a spec screenplay. Remember those? How we got stuff like the first Lethal Weapon. American Beauty. We may well be reaching the point as an audience where we we'll reflexively (and not just the folks on AICN, but audiences in general) recoil in horror at the prospect of yet another bloody re-imagining or sequel.
PG 13 anyone? by HarryBlackPotter	May 13th, 2007 03:42:43 AM
The rights got sold off for an undisclosed sum, which means a huge fucking sum. And the best way for them to recoup their investment? You got it, appeal to the kiddies. You wait, soon they'll be a Terminator cartoon, a Terminator cereal. The Terminators will therefore only stun their human enemies with tazer guns; will never hurt the general public of kill a dog, or steal a policeman's bike, and never, ever say 'Fuck you asshole'.
T1 wasn't deterministic by jeffv	May 13th, 2007 05:13:31 PM
There was an exchange between Reese and Sarah Connor which went something like "you're from the future?" and he answers something like "well, one possible future. I'm just a soldier don't ask me how it works." It was clear from the first movie that the future was not inevitable. They just made a more blatant deal about it in T2.
Terminator Cereal?? by GibsonUSA Returns	May 13th, 2007 07:45:38 PM
That would kick fuckin ass! Imagine the marshmallows with the red dot eyes! Rocck on! Make this part of an everyday balanced breakfast immediately!

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