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Planet Hulk is good?
by Catullus85
May 9th, 2007
10:14:10 AM
Geesh, maybe I'll change my mind and pick those issues up.
foist
by mikehuntsbloody
May 9th, 2007
10:15:13 AM
or maybe 2nd
I'd still be collecting comics
by Abominable Snowcone
May 9th, 2007
10:16:36 AM
If they weren't so goddamn expensive. Doesn't matter if they're 'worth' the money, if you can't spare the money. I stopped in 8th grade, twenty years ago. I'm sorry I missed out on a lot of stuff, but hey, gotta eat.
So they're going to split Marvel into two sides again?
by INWOsuxRED
May 9th, 2007
10:22:29 AM
Seems like we just saw this... Make my TV.
Planet Hulk is FUN
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
10:30:59 AM
The Prologue is better than Incredible Hulk #106.
oops
by INWOsuxRED
May 9th, 2007
10:40:39 AM
I meant "make mine TV".
As always, great read @$$Holes!
by Evil Hobbit
May 9th, 2007
10:45:08 AM
I'll pick up Hellboy, WWHulk, Zombies vs Army and Left on a Mission.
Unseen Peanuts was the best of the bunch
by Trazadone
May 9th, 2007
10:51:18 AM
150 "lost" Peanuts cartoons was the best find of the day, woo-hoo!
Hulk-arr the Barbarian..or Hulk-an?
by rock-me Amodeo
May 9th, 2007
10:54:24 AM
As Conan/Thundarr stories go, the whole Hulk thing was good, once I finally got my arms around the concept. I re-read it from the beginning, and stories where one must create an entire world/mythos are not easy, from a writer's perspective. But I personally think it was well done, and a great twist on an old character, and moving HIM forward as a character. That said, I'm looking forward to seeing Hulk smashing more familiar faces.
Whedon
by arrangedletters
May 9th, 2007
10:54:46 AM
I am a huge Whedon fanboy who loves his X-Men and thinks Buffy is awesome as well. That said someone please do something about Runaways. Kingpin, Punisher, and Crappy "Mystery" Guy? This is pointless crossover that ruins a good book fast. Sure he writes the characters well but the stories have been awful. Get these kids out of New York before Spidey shows up.
3 Joss Whedon titles
by xsi kal
May 9th, 2007
11:14:24 AM
I was just thinking to myself how weird it was to have 3 whedon titles in the same week as I sat back down to reread the issues last night... Astonishing, Buffy, and Runaways.

Honestly, I really enjoyed Astonishing. You're right in that not much happened in terms of the overarching plot... but a crapload happened from a character standpoint. Colossus and Kitty get it on? Scott and Emma finally talk shit out somewhat? Hell, did Agent Brand get her furry on with Beast?

Honestly, beyond the initial arc, I've been somewhat lukewarm on Astonishing, (my favorites are Carey's X-Men and David's X-Factor), but this issue reminded me how spot-on Whedon's characterization could be.

Runaways was my biggest letdown. Yeah, it was pretty good, and yeah, Molly is as cute as ever, but... I still am adjusting to Whedon's slightly different voice with the title... a problem I don't have with Buffy (for obvious reasons) or Astonishing (because he writes the characters so well 'in canon').

Anyway, good reviews. I may check out Planet Hulk as a result, though I'll only really be happy if Iron Man (how are they dealing with him being female ultron at the same time?) gets ripped limb from limb.
Oh come ON
by Psynapse
May 9th, 2007
11:56:05 AM
Who didn't laugh their ass off at Molly's sucker punch? I know I did......
Hulk FTW
by Reelheed
May 9th, 2007
12:34:27 PM
Seriously it would be a laugh to have the US run by Emperor Hulk for a while. Just for a while. Pls?
World War III is coming...
by BizarroJerry
May 9th, 2007
12:59:37 PM
No, not DC's World War III. The one that's coming soon in the new G.I. Joe comics. Starting off with a chick in a leather body suit kicking asses... C'mon, folks, give it a shot. And @$$holes, you should review one of these. At least in the "Cheap Shots" section. That's right, I'm gonna recommend the series in every comics talk back until I get someone to agree to read it... Gotta have a hobby, right?
What choo talkin bout Oscar Wilde 4 Prez?
by Ambush Bug
May 9th, 2007
01:02:21 PM
I never said that ASTOUNDING WOLF MAN sux because it doesn't follow the rules. I said it was kind of boring because it seems to resemble just about every other werewolf story out there. I would love it to not follow the rules, but it seems as if Kirkman watched American Werewolf in London and The Wolf Man and maybe even Jack NIcholson's Wolf and just rehashed them all into one story. Believe me, I would love to read a werewolf tale that throws convention out the window.
I don't read G.I. Joe
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
01:14:02 PM
It's not my bag. I do read Transformers on occasion, but not since the recent Infiltration arc started focusing on the kids rather than the actual TFs and arrived sporadically at my Friendly Local Comic Shop instead of on a regular schedule. I soon forgot about the storyline and the comic altogether.
Transformers comics
by BizarroJerry
May 9th, 2007
01:20:48 PM
They've had bad luck recently. They returned in a few series by Dreamwave, but the company went belly-up and the comics were cancelled. Then, IDW (I think) took over the license, and I think that series is ignoring the previous one. They even had some crossovers with G.I. Joe. The current Joe line has been going for six years straight now, thought they've had a relaunch with the same stories continuing. It's fun stuff if you like your 80s properties updated and slightly matured...
Wait wait wait...
by rev_skarekroe
May 9th, 2007
01:39:02 PM
Back up a minute... Doc Samson is GAY?
I did TRY them.
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
01:40:23 PM
I liked what I read, but I felt that there were too many nods to past continuity and characters who I have no association with, that I just never read "back then".

Do they acknowledge Sgt. Slaughter and The Refridgerator Perry as members?
Don't back up into Doc Samson
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
01:41:42 PM
He dresses like a gay wrestler.
Squashua...
by BizarroJerry
May 9th, 2007
01:58:22 PM
No Slaughter or Fridge in it these days. They may be out there somewhere, but not appearing in any comic. Lately, they've been sticking mostly to a smaller group of regular characters, while their earlier series may have been too reliant on the older 80s lore. The recent story arc that started can probably be followed without too much back story. But, it does help if you read the old series. I don't think you'll be lost, though. The current arc started with #21 of G.I. Joe: America's Elite, and #23 has just come out in stores. Here's a review of #21: http://tinyurl.com/36bc5n
If you like werewolf stories that don't follow rules..
by rock-me Amodeo
May 9th, 2007
01:59:02 PM
then you should check out "River" by Skyla Dawn Cameron. It's about a wolf that turns into a human--after being bitten by one. Its kinda chick-litty, but not bad, as debut novels go.
and What does a straight wrestler dress like?
by rock-me Amodeo
May 9th, 2007
02:00:46 PM
'cause I don't see much of a difference. Just wondering.
damn you rock-me
by Homer Sexual
May 9th, 2007
02:27:40 PM
For beating me to the obvious punch about wrestling apparel. It's actually kind of an insult to most gays,but what else to call the outlandish, spandex, spangles and skin outfits they wear?

When I am bored by a review, it's a bad sign for the comic, and World War Hulk was tiresome before the review ended.

Personally, I love Whedon's Runaways, to my surprise. I wasn't much into the Kingpin, but the Punisher appearance was a'ight...loved when Molly punched Punisher. My s.o., who usually reads none of my superhero books, likes Runaways.

And he liked "Welcome to Tranquility" but was getting bored by the 5th issue, so I definitely disagree with the review. It was plenty drug-out and would have been ruined by any more extension of the story arc. However, now that the story is done, I think it will be difficult to keep this book running for long.

Finally, which is worse? Boring or offensive comics? I never bought Civil War, because I found the heroes' behavior offensive, but I can't deny my interest. I had to willfully resist buying it, because I knew I would hate it. OTOH, I dropped Lucifer and Hellblazer after several months of Carey, because I found his writing to be very dull and uninteresting. (Yes, I know many people like him, and I don't hate him, I'm just not interested). So maybe I do play into the hands of evildoers like Marvel, because from a sales standpoint, it's better to be terrible and offensive than mediocre and boring.

It's the lime green Fabio hair
by Psynapse
May 9th, 2007
02:41:35 PM
That makes Doc Samson gay.....
wtf
by Shigeru
May 9th, 2007
02:47:06 PM
a review of Little Archie for FCBD but not one of the new Owly? @$$holes you know I love you but wtf.
Homer
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
03:09:52 PM
"When I am bored by a review, it's a bad sign for the comic, and World War Hulk was tiresome before the review ended."

You wound me, sir or madam, whichever the case may be.
Homer's a dude....
by Psynapse
May 9th, 2007
03:20:19 PM
He's my fellow AICN polesmoker! (and I wubs him vewwy vewwy mooch) (*_^)
Homer's a dude....
by Psynapse
May 9th, 2007
03:20:22 PM
He's my fellow AICN polesmoker! (and I wubs him vewwy vewwy mooch) (*_^)
Waitasec...
by Thalya
May 9th, 2007
03:22:21 PM
Wasn't the Archie comic gonna get Bizarro-reviewed?
Bizzarchie
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
03:36:51 PM
Maybe it was.
Double post!
by Psynapse
May 9th, 2007
03:52:54 PM
and I only hit the button once!
Double post!
by Squashua
May 9th, 2007
04:04:42 PM
Again! No, wait. Nevermind.
Hrmm…
by The Heathen
May 9th, 2007
04:39:43 PM
I'm behind one week as far as the talkbacks are concerned it seems. I just finished up with 52 and WWIII and those left me kind of, "meh." Especially WWIII and it's art and structure. The whole lot of it seemed rather rushed if that's at all possible in a weekly comic of 52 issues, but it did. Oh yeah, Didio spoiling the already kinda obvious ending was sort of a bitch too, but what's the big deal anyway? Psy? Thalya?

I agree about AXM, Humph. It wasn't bad, but it just kind of exists and moved things along while looking gorgeous of course. I still have Runaways to read out of my three Whedon comics. Buffy is awesome. How about that ending?

I'm really, really curious about Madam Mirage.

I actually missed going to my LCS on Saturday, but hopefully I'll be able to get that Slott and Jimenez Spidey issue… and Owly too! ; )

Hey, that's my header! Go smoke your constantly healing lungs out Wolvie!!! Btw, notice the inscription on the arrow?
What's the big deal?
by Psynapse
May 10th, 2007
08:28:09 AM
Please clarify the question. (*_^)
Oh my god...
by Thalya
May 10th, 2007
08:29:13 AM
Ok, so this is clearly not the TB to be in right now. We should either be chatting up Bruce Willis (you da man, dregmobile!) or geeking out about the idea of The Rock as either Captain Marvel (s'got potential..) or BLACK ADAM (*LIGHTNING STRIKES!*).
The Rock should be…
by The Heathen
May 10th, 2007
10:06:48 AM
Black Adam.
Re: Psynapse
by The Heathen
May 10th, 2007
10:14:09 AM
What's the big deal that there are 52 earths and that the mutiverse still exists?
H...
by Thalya
May 10th, 2007
10:54:54 AM
Aside from the fact that there was no "official" multiverse for over 20 years and that move by DC turned off thousands of readers, some dropping comics completely?
Not to mention....
by Psynapse
May 10th, 2007
12:15:37 PM
Things like the newest JLA/JSA crossover RE-validating all those stories that longtime old-fart fans (like my 39 but way younger looking self) read as kids. In other words: DC UN-RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!! (and while THIS multiverse isn't exactly the one I grew up one, it allows for any of those types of stories I read to be told once more). The Marvels are a perfect example of this. Now we know how and why Jeff Smith's story really IS canon after all.
Rock should be Black Adam
by Squashua
May 10th, 2007
12:31:55 PM
Heathen, nice title pic; it was one of the ones I voted for.
The Rock as Black Adam...
by Psynapse
May 10th, 2007
01:07:08 PM
Would be Uber-pwnage.
Woah.. Idea... Hold on a sec...
by Thalya
May 10th, 2007
01:13:12 PM
The multiverse could suddenly be an excuse for DC to go all Marvel on their characters (case in point: Mary Marvel). DC is now free to do things with all their characters that commitments to the older versions of them previously prohibited. Don't like what we're doing to Mary in Countdown? Look over at that Classic version on Earth 5. Etc, etc, etc..
Bongo's Free Comic Book...
by GenericGeek
May 10th, 2007
01:31:35 PM
...was awesome. The best freebie IMHO. And, with the first appearance of Glowy, the Radioactive Dog? Instant collectible. Ka-ching!
That's what DC intends T....
by Psynapse
May 10th, 2007
02:52:13 PM
(^_*)
Which is kinda odd when you think about it, Psy..
by Thalya
May 10th, 2007
03:34:26 PM
Because they were all about getting the Trinity and other A-listers back to some very simple basic state uncovered by the baggage of however many years. Though of course they went right out and starting moving everyone else forward right at OYL..
Didio is a blowhard
by Psynapse
May 10th, 2007
03:53:17 PM
nuff said
He is, but..
by Thalya
May 10th, 2007
04:02:26 PM
He's a good blowhard. And if he lies, then he flat out lies to your face and doesn't hem and haw about it. And he has a lot of fun while he does it and you do too. He's OUR blowhard, doggonit.
Thanks, Squash!
by The Heathen
May 10th, 2007
05:54:59 PM
Now regarding the multiverse thing, I get why some might like it now that it validates old stories, but I'm with T as far as thinking that I thought the goal was to get the characters to a very simple basic state uncovered by the baggage of however many years? It's kind of stupid to not focus on that in the here and now I think. That's part of what sold me on DC's agenda and overall game plan. If that's changed and it's damn near a 180 then I have a bad feeling about where things are leading. But who knows? I really hope that Thalya's Mary Marvel example never sees the light of day. Stuff like that would really irk me and cause me to drop a great many of my DC books just as I did with Marvel. 'Nuff said.
Well…
by The Heathen
May 11th, 2007
11:18:55 AM
when I said, 'Nuff said' I didn't mean anyone couldn't say anything else in the talkback.

Hello?
People are just turned off by...
by Thalya
May 11th, 2007
11:27:05 AM
..the bad Stan Lee impression from Spidey 3, is all. :)

Not to mention the TB isn't linked to in the comics list on the main page.
How's this...
by loodabagel
May 11th, 2007
01:31:05 PM
I enjoyed the dancing in SPider-Man 3. I am not joking either, by the way.
looda, it sucks that I have to ask this question, but..
by Shigeru
May 11th, 2007
01:39:57 PM
WHICH dancing? LOL
HA!!!
by The Heathen
May 11th, 2007
05:51:36 PM
"WHICH dancing?"

Oh man, that's great! The Mask meets Chicago or Chubby Checker doing the Twist while making the omelet? And looda… SHAME!!!!

Yeah, the @$$holes always get the short end of the stick when it comes to the best column on the site don't they? You always find the stray shit that has nothing to do with comics in it's section on the home page or the column isn't even there at all. Isn't it Doc Falken or someone who fixes those things? C'mon Doc!
Countdown?
by The Heathen
May 11th, 2007
08:07:06 PM
Eh, it wasn't exactly gripping. I wonder when Jason Todd will become Red Robin? Blarg…
Ray Palmer is the solution to the Great Disaster!
by Thalya
May 11th, 2007
08:44:05 PM
And that's not a spoiler, 'cause that's all we get. Isn't it nice that this will all ultimately come full circle to Identity Crisis because we've got Ray and now Jean Loring as Eclipso seducing Mary Marvel? Guys, who's read Rock of Ages from Morrison's JLA?! 'Cause this is where it's going, I bet!
My post has been deleted for being so damn bold!
by loodabagel
May 11th, 2007
10:11:53 PM
I posted it and now it's gone. But what I said was that I liked both dance sequences, but I think the jazz club one was better because it was so damn outrageous. In a better movie, you too would have enjoyed the dancing.
Just not Amazing...
by loodabagel
May 12th, 2007
09:45:52 PM
Absolutely not Amazing.
oh
by blackthought
May 13th, 2007
02:37:37 PM
my
Y'know, when you said "The Twist scene"...
by Squashua
May 14th, 2007
04:25:41 PM
...I totally thought you meant some M. Night Shamylamadingdong stylings were a-foot.

Unfortunately, "The Twist scene" is a literal description.
I still stand defiant...
by loodabagel
May 14th, 2007
10:18:01 PM
Peter did not turn into Jim Carrey. He turned into Connor Oberst. I was surprised to see Connor Oberst danced so well.
Ok, that's it, enough time has passed..
by Thalya
May 15th, 2007
08:21:36 AM
How would _you_ (random, anyone-out-there "you") do Spider-Man 3? Though at the same time that begs the question of where you'd put the Venom story because they clearly sandwiched two movies into one. So I guess the larger question is, how would _you_ do the sextology (hextology?, I dunno)? My version to come shortly..
My Spider-Man 3
by Squashua
May 15th, 2007
08:57:34 AM
The existing one can be fixed, as needed, much like Episode 1 was fixed by removing Jar Jar Binks.

First, I wouldn't have had Venom as some contrived meteorite that lands next to S-M/MJ. It would have either still been a meteorite or a lab experiment ala Ultimate Venom, but 100% unrelated to Peter Parker. As stated in a review I read, we would have watched it's journey to find a sufficiently stronger host and eventually end up on Spider-Man after having followed him. Prior hosts would be seen attacking people, as agressive muggers, etc.

The "suit" would never have come off; it would have made clothes ala the comics.

Sandman can't fly as a sandstorm. No dancing scenes, just shots of Spider-Man getting overly agressive in his crime-stopping antics (expanded scenes based on the photos); much more action-in-suit! Possible reworking/massaging of the "New Goblin" storyline to be less blatantly stupid, but name him "Green Goblin".

Though he was used well, I think Campbell would have been better served appearing as some iteration of an actor to fit in with his prior media-related appearances. That way he would be properly set-up to become Mysterio.

Even though the "canon" MTV cartoon states that Connors is already The Lizard, Connors using Venom suit extract to become Lizard has been properly set-up, though it would have been cool to have had him lose his arm in Spider-Man 1.
Nice reworking there, lots of good stuff, Squash..
by Thalya
May 15th, 2007
09:05:58 AM
My version would go something like:

#3: Sandman/Harry arc from Spidey 3 (justice vs revenge), with Harry him dying at the end, Black Cat introduced. MJ falls a bit harder for Harry here. No forgiveness for Peter/MJ yet, she blames him in part for Harry's death (though it should be all on the butler, but..).

#4: Symbiote, Peter and Black Cat. Peter's guilt from built-up baggage from Harry's death plus John Jameson (who brings back the symbiote) ragging on him for stealing away MJ, leads Peter into desiring the black suit so he can prevent any more deaths and avoid consequences. Single-again power-addicted Peter goes for a walk on the wild side with Black Cat in his black suit. A Gwen Stacy-like moment with her leads Peter to rush to a church for the bell tower scene. Last shot is the first of Venom (and perhaps Peter sees him or gets an indication that MJ isn't safe, thus reinforcing the theme of pushing away loved ones to protect them in #1). *** And I like your slow build-up of the symbiote for here, Squashua.

#5: Balls to the wall Venom and Carnage, lots of casualties, consequences, and fallout from all that's gone on before.

#6: Light and happy Sinister Six: it's been built up through random battles with other villains in the previous 3 movies. We've got Lizard, Mysterio (Bruce Campbell), Sandman, Electro(?), Vulture(?), and the return of Norman Osborn (super soldier serum = resurrection, which indicates Harry will also come back to take out his dad). We end on a nice happy Ewok party in the jungle kinda scene.
Symbiote
by Squashua
May 15th, 2007
10:50:16 AM
I can't take credit for that slow build-up; I got that from a suggestion made on a review I read, and I really liked it.

You've planned out 6 movies; I think this one was fine with the 3 different villains/conflicts. Eddie Brock was in just enough scenes and I liked his stuff the best, but I didn't like when he was Venom and talking with the goop on his face.

In fact, they need to stop taking Peter's mask off every 3 minutes. Dude has to pull sand out of his footie, so he sits on the side of a building in broad daylight and takes off his mask and empties his boot and probably puts his mask back on and swings off. Who DIDN'T photgraph him with a cameraphone from any of the 30 nearby office buildings?

There was a really stupid scene with the crowd going estatic on stage and Spider-man swinging in and making out with Gwen upside-down. Totally out of character; Peter would never have done that, he'd have known better or at least made an attempt to pull back out of it. The way he "asked for it", he wanted a smooch on the cheek, possibly through the mask, not a make-out session. And yet, he acted like he totally wanted it, which was crap.

Speaking of bad acting, when they announce Spider-Man to come swinging in, did anyone else see the ridiculous woman in the background of the stage very poorly feigning excitement? Shit like that needs to be fired, digitally edited out, or re-shot entirely. Was probably someone's relative.

I don't think I'm anywhere near a complete fix for the film, but I've hit a few problems so far.

The biggest issue I had was a requirement for more action in-costume scenes, not just swinging around, but stopping crimes. And not through photos.
Spidey 3 had too much going on
by Thalya
May 15th, 2007
12:32:20 PM
There were too many damn scenes, and none of them got a chance to breathe like those quiet moments in Spider-Man 2. Sandman and Venom were both underdeveloped (yes, even Venom was underdeveloped, ironic though that may be); I just didn't care at the end; I felt no tension or threat from either of those bad guys, though their visuals suggest otherwise.

I don't think we even got a solid understanding of how powerful the black suit could be - what if Spidey had stopped a runaway train while wearing it, how much would that scene differ from #2?

The Eddie Brock stuff was good, though I would've like it drawn out a touch more so the bell tower would be closer to the end (and then in another movie at that) - to be interspersed with more action scenes where he's always tailing. And yeah, much more with the unrushed and unconfusing action scenes, period. We could've seen some wicked black suit stuff, but nope, we wuz cheated.
Surprised lady in background!
by Shigeru
May 15th, 2007
12:41:28 PM
I noticed that too! Did you also notice when Spidey is standing on the building about to swing down over the crowd, the CGI crowd is ATROCIOUS?! Like, Playstation 1.

And with that, I hearby declare an end to all Spider-Man 3 talk, for anything further will bum me out ever more.
Huh..
by Thalya
May 15th, 2007
12:50:59 PM
And here I thought you weren't going to TB, oh high and mighty Shig. Frankly, I feel like dissecting the movie for the rest of the day..
And another thing..
by Thalya
May 15th, 2007
01:01:42 PM
I just wonder how well comics can be adapted to movies at all. Material from serial formats just doesn't seem to apply well because in order to really defeat a villain and have a complete, satisfying story, the villain has to die, which in turn adds liability and grayness to the "hero". What are the limits to episodic storytelling in films?
Spidey 3 Stank For Lots Of Reasons Offscreen.
by Buzz Maverik
May 15th, 2007
01:16:24 PM
First, movies are great. Movie franchises are not so great. I doubt that Sam Raimi ever intended to spend his career making back to back films about the same characters and situations. Even with the EVIL DEAD sequels, they were years apart, with other projects in between or, at least early on, advances in budget to make it interesting. He hasn't made a movie about anything else since before the first Spidey. That's okay for a hack, but Raimi is a good filmmaker...who happened to make a bad movie this time.

I don't think Tobey Maguire has played another character since SPIDEY 2, at least not in the movies, maybe on stage or something. He might as well be on a TV series. I caught a little of the first movie on basic cable the other night. Maguire actually looked interested in the role he was playing.

Avi Arad and Marvel productions think they know how to make movies but they don't. The first two Spidey's were good because, at the time, Raimi and the real producers had enough clout to ignore "Marvel" productions. But if you look at their HULK, ELEKTRA, THE PUNISHER, THE FANTASTIC FOUR, DAREDEVIL...they don't know what they're doing. GHOST RIDER...not knowing what they're doing paid off, but only because of the visual image. FF:SILVER SURFER may be the same way. It screams, "We don't know what we're doing!" but the Surfer is very powerful visually.

I Really Don't Think The Villains Have To Die, Thalya.
by Buzz Maverik
May 15th, 2007
01:25:44 PM
I think that's just where we are in our society and the audience's justifiable lack of faith in our justice system.

The original Green Goblin finally died in the comic in a very similar manner to the movie. That worked on film. But Doc Ock didn't have to die (and any good comic fan could see several ways that the character might have survived). What happened to sending these goons to jail?

That's what bugged me about the first two BATMAN movies. Sure, they didn't want to have to pay Jack Nicholson and, to a lesser extent, Danny DeVito, again but that set the trend for killing supervillains in the movies.

But even setting jail aside, we know from comics that there's a billion ways a supervillain's reign of terror can end aside from being killed by the hero, which is actually rather boring.

I Read That Maguire & Natalie Portman Would Star In....
by Buzz Maverik
May 15th, 2007
01:32:23 PM
...THE AMAZING ADVENTURE OF KAVALIER & CLAY, but the picture is stalled. It's too bad. I'm assuming that Maguire would play Sammy Clay, because no way can I see him as Josef Kavalier. They should have hired Maguire's childhood buddy, Leo DiCaprio, for that part.

Maguire has become such a lifeless actor, it just seems like he needs something interesting to do between franchise pictures.

Or they could just fire his ass and recast.

I wholly agree with you Buzz, RE: death
by Thalya
May 15th, 2007
01:43:46 PM
I'm more saying it's the in vogue thing. Jail is a hell of a lot more sensible, but per what seems to be in vogue, it's so anticlimatic versus a final, emotionally-charged, and sometimes redemptive death.

I can kinda see that side as well because otherwise the villain's storyarc somehow seems incomplete or abridged (which seems to be a no-no when you're trying to humanize the villain - although the bigger no-no would be to abjectly let the guy get away like Sandman).

Maybe it's the humanizing that's holding back the villains from being so monstrous that the only thing that could restrain them is a place like Iron Heights (wrong company, I know), 'cause the hero couldn't come close enough to actually killing them. Make death too much of a far-off possibility for the villain so everyone's relieved that he's simply shipped off to the hoosegow, y'know?
I Never Really Wanted To Make Comics But...
by Buzz Maverik
May 15th, 2007
02:43:11 PM
...a few years ago, I told my fellow @$$holes about an idea I had for a comic called SOLUTION. It would be a superhero team book, sort of doppelgangers for the Fantastic Four/X-Men. The hook was that in the face of all the ridiculous continuity with villains, etc., each story would follow the team's conflict with a villain to its' final ending. I thought the challenge would be finding different solutions besides death, but whatever, the villain wasn't coming back.

I actually pitched it to this artist who was clerking at my LCS. Let me just say that I learned that a talent for artwork is not an indicator of high or even moderate intelligence.

I tried to tell him,"In Marvel Comics, there's all these ridiculous stories where Dr. Doom has done this or that; or Magneto is reinvented every couple of years. What is our heroes in our stories hand permanent defeats to our villains, who would be similar to the great Marvel and DC villains, but different enough to avoid plagiarism suits."

He said,"But people want to see more Dr. Doom and Magneto stories."

I said, "They wouldn't be Dr. Doom and Magneto. They'd be characters we created for our own indie comic and maybe somebody like Image would pick it up."

He said,"They can't publish books with Doom and Magneto. Those are Marvel characters...hey, what're you doing with that Boba Fett helmet? Owww...owwww..."

In A Good Comic, Spidey Would Have Told Sandman....
by Buzz Maverik
May 15th, 2007
02:50:51 PM
"I forgive you...but you're still going to jail."

In a slightly different and darker version of this, perhaps the best handling of a humanized villain or anti-hero was in the Punisher stories Frank Miller did in DAREDEVIL.

DD sees the Punisher strictly as a killer, no different than the other goons running around shooting each other, except that he's more dangerous. The Punisher, whom at that point, has really only encountered a more impressionable Spider-Man (and met Nightcrawler in a weird team up, thinks DD will view him as Spidey has, and proposes a truce. But Daredevil says, "No truce. You're going to jail." And he shoots the Punisher. I guess this was pre-kevlar, and a case of poetic justice...and typical Miller slop because can you imagine what firing a .45 would do to Matt's senses?

upon further relection...
by blackthought
May 22nd, 2007
09:07:10 PM
spidey-3 still blows.
this is a test
by rock-me Amodeo
Jun 22nd, 2007
03:13:41 PM
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