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VERONICA MARS Might
Return With A Title Change??

testing by xega	May 8th, 2007 01:39:55 AM
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you taste like a burger. i don't like you anymore. by Bob C. Cock	May 8th, 2007 02:44:31 AM
paul rudd in wet hot = comedy gold
Oh great by ElPaw	May 8th, 2007 04:13:49 AM
prepare for some shit English accent.
Herc: Your best guess-Stay or Go? by MemBirdman	May 8th, 2007 05:13:01 AM
Give me a ballpark idea. How much of a chance do we have for VM 4? I'm about 70/30 for.
It's "Ren and Stimpy", they're way existential by WadeCryBabyWalker	May 8th, 2007 05:16:04 AM
Liam Gallagher? Let's hope it's a bad Jarvis Cocker imitation. Give Piz at least some hipster cred.
Jake Kane by NudeandAroused	May 8th, 2007 06:27:16 AM
Is my guess to run against Keith.
Veronica makes me... by mrtwig48	May 8th, 2007 06:36:48 AM
...nude and aroused.
Im hoping it all went well by Mr_X	May 8th, 2007 08:52:59 AM
and we get more VM next season. Fingers crossed.
it's gotta be one of by aicmb	May 8th, 2007 10:49:42 AM
Sacks, the bar owner, or the deputy Keith fired. Possibly Deputy Leo?
Just stop. by CatVutt	May 8th, 2007 10:59:48 AM
It's not coming back. It's not. It's a goner. I refuse to even retain the slimmest of hopes at this point. There's simply no evidence to suggest that the CW has any intention of even considering the FBI fast-forward. It's done, I'll miss it terribly, but it's done.
I just hope that by sfgeek	May 8th, 2007 11:08:52 AM
when they do cancel VM (which I hope they don't) that they place some shitty reality tv show in its place... perhaps america's next pop princess' jail term? No? Howabout The next Spice Grrrrrl? I wish that tv execs would stop placing these reality shows in place of decent (if not always great) TV shows... it is a sad state, the next thing you know is that gas prices will soar to above 3.00 bucks a gallon
Title Change. by erichaislar	May 8th, 2007 12:29:11 PM
Please don't call it FBI girl. Worst title ever.
I could work. With title change. by erichaislar	May 8th, 2007 12:32:44 PM
With Veronica and I'm sure some sexy new love interest. As her partner. it will be like Bones only way better written.
Change HER name by Napoleon Park	May 8th, 2007 12:47:23 PM
Tiny Venus, FBI. Suzie Saturn, Federal Agent. Erika Merkury, Government Cop. Agent JJ Jupiter. Special Agent Betty Pluto. (Go on, make up your own Uranus joke.)
What makes me nervous... by rosasaks	May 8th, 2007 12:54:00 PM
IF the FBI time jump thingy went ahead, when would the show return? September/October seems incredibly risky because wouldn't it effectively give them zero time to properly conceptualize what would to all intents and purposes be a new star vehicle for Kristen Bell? I'm not saying the production team aren't talented but it sounds like a bit of a recipe for disaster. Unless Rob Thomas just happens to have the outline to a novel or something just lying around in a desk draw somewhere precisely for such an occasion, it sounds like they'll be flying by the seat of their pants.
I don't think the FBI Idea came out of his ass.... by Mr. Profit	May 8th, 2007 01:18:06 PM
The FBI seeds were planted with the Landry recommendation V got and then was referenced in last weeks episode. I think that while working on a struggling drama, Rob and Co. have probably been devising a strategy to take the show in a new direction.
God that came out wrong... by Mr. Profit	May 8th, 2007 01:20:34 PM
What I meant was that the show has been making reference to a post college FBI career. Also Rob and Co probably already have VMars FBI plotted out since they did film a presentation for the networks didn't they? Anyhow, I hope the show sticks around. One more thing, I saw Piz on the Grey's Anatomy spinoff. Dude is in shape but has huge nipples.
Damn! "Life on Mars" is taken by rockgolf	May 8th, 2007 01:25:01 PM
Have to find another name. But here's a great idea for the first episode: after a hard day at Quantico, Veronica has to rush home to pick up her 2-year-old from day care.
rockgolf by erichaislar	May 8th, 2007 01:26:51 PM
That would be funny! And Logan is the father!
Fucking Retarded by tristeele	May 8th, 2007 01:30:52 PM
Just cancel this once awesome show and be done. I dont want a fast forward. I want a better written season 4. Get back to the roots of what made the show great. One season long mystery. V's friends actually IN THE FUCKING EPISODES! Those 2 things would bring me back. V in FBI will not.
That Rachel Nichols show by veritasses	May 8th, 2007 01:36:32 PM
that got canned after only a few eps had the Clarice Starling thing going and wasn't all that bad as I recall.
Mission To Mars by Samuel Fulmer	May 8th, 2007 01:44:51 PM
Have De Palma direct the pilot, with Gary Sinise as Veronica Mars.
Goddamn it, NO. by CatVutt	May 8th, 2007 01:46:03 PM
I'm not getting sucked into thinking there's a chance for this. Would I love it? Yeah, keep Veronica and Keith, and lose everybody else, maybe have her jot an email to Wallace occasionally. But it's not going to happen. It's not, dammit.
WHAT. sighs, beggar v. chooser by Demosthenes2	May 8th, 2007 02:04:49 PM
Then that would be an almost entirely different SHOW!!! I wasn't born yesterday. I love Kristen Bell and all the writers, but losing all the supporting cast would be chopping off a leg. Still, I'd take it over no Veronica, so I guess it's no time to be bitching.
Why this has a shot of working. by erichaislar	May 8th, 2007 02:05:42 PM
The CW is looking for something that will get more adult viewers. So they kinda reboot VM into this FBI thing so new people can watch and not have to know anything about veronica Mars to enjoy it. Its a great Idea Rob Thomas can pull it off. Plus i'm tired of College and High School I want more adult stories my self.
Mars Attacks! by Son of Hades	May 8th, 2007 02:17:49 PM
Veronica single-handedly invades the Earth with a deadly combination of irresistible weapons and a cruel sense of humour.
Why this has a shot of working.......more by erichaislar	May 8th, 2007 02:18:48 PM
Plus this has a build in audience already plus they can market it as a new show and get more viewers.
Eyes of Laura Mars by Son of Hades	May 8th, 2007 02:23:20 PM
In a blatant nod to season five of Buffy, Veronica's hitherto unheard-of younger sister shows up - and she can see through the eyes of a serial killer as he commits his crimes!
Look, I like the ensemble... by Son of Hades	May 8th, 2007 02:30:21 PM
...but they've had fuck-all to do for a couple of seasons. They should have brutally murdered Logan for this year's mystery; he's a painful shadow of his former self. Even the actor senses this, mumbling his lines like a bad Brando impersonator. I swear I have to turn the volume up whenever he says anything. So yeah, get rid of the lot of 'em, save Keith and maybe Mac. We now return you to your scheduled Veronica Mars fourth season title puns.
Can it be called "Quantico"? by Squashua	May 8th, 2007 02:33:04 PM
That could work.
John Carter of Veronica Mars by Son of Hades	May 8th, 2007 02:37:07 PM
In a bizaare scheduling mixup, the American Civil War veteran is mysteriously transported to Neptune, California, where he must help the annoying blond one to figh...oh you can fill in the rest yourself. Oh, and Harry fucks it up and the show is cancelled in pre-production.
Squashua by erichaislar	May 8th, 2007 02:40:48 PM
Best thing I have heard for a title all day.
Yeah, I'd support "Quantico" as a title... by DanielKurland	May 8th, 2007 02:51:59 PM
I suppose this means that the theme song is probably going to change "again".
How about..."The Blue Rose"? by SpyGuy	May 8th, 2007 03:17:04 PM
FBI Director Gordon Cole calls in Agent Veronica Mars to find out what happened to Special Agents Chet Desmond and Dale Cooper. Special cameo appearance in the first episode by Keifer Sutherland as Sam.
ooooh I'm down with SpyGuy's idea by Demosthenes2	May 8th, 2007 03:59:48 PM
I remember the big reveal for Veronica's season 1 mystery wasn't that exciting to me because it reminded me too much of the Twin Peaks reveal. I've often thought that the show could use a more personal season or half-season mystery for Veronica like Lily's murder; that was such an involving catalyst for this season. The two mini-mystery arcs weren't that interesting this season; I wish they'd go back to season-long mysteries but I doubt that'll happen, if it even gets picked up at all. But anyway back to TP: I've often thought that Twin Peaks could have an expansive universe of spinoffs, but I'm sure Lynch would refuse. While at the time they were talking about doing a series of movies, I sensed that Lynch deliberately made that movie as noncommercial as possible so that no one would ever touch it. I'm one of the fans who appreciated the film, albeit with reservations. Yup.
Mike Ausiello is reporting... by GregoryHarbin	May 8th, 2007 04:03:18 PM
...that renewal chances are good. I'm looking forward to the FBI storyline, especially if it manages to bring in more viewers and the show a bit more money.
Good, I'm officially anticipating next season now... by DanielKurland	May 8th, 2007 04:18:32 PM
So a cancellation is going to be all the more crushing if it happens. And I also am a huge, huge fan of Fire Walk With Me. Bring on Ray Wise as the FBI director for season 4.
Quantico was by nemesisdarkside	May 8th, 2007 04:27:40 PM
the original name of Criminal Minds. I still haven't got used to the FBI fast forward. I'm gonna miss Wallace and Mac!! If only this show had become a hit, we'd be getting an awesome sophomore year season with one big arc and possibly a few mini arcs. If only! Will this be The Inside v2?
What Would Happen to Keith? by Bungion Boy	May 8th, 2007 05:33:50 PM
I love VM and I fully support some sort of future jump. Right now I would mind them dumping the whole supporting cast. But the dynamic between Keith and Veronica is one of the best things about the show. I would really miss Enrico.
The Gilmore Mars by ThornBalls	May 8th, 2007 05:56:07 PM
Fast forward five years - Veronica and Rory work together so closely that they both discover the best way to celebrate solving a mystery is through hardcore lesbian action.
Herc - another question by Trader Groucho 2	May 8th, 2007 07:14:40 PM
Is it possible that the contracts with the other acrots are the reason CW would consider a name change for the FBI series???
IF the CW is trying to attract an older audience.. by RokurGepta	May 8th, 2007 07:23:56 PM
why are they making that new show Hidden Palms, that looks like a teeny bopper sci-fi sit-com
No Keith = No go by David Lazarus Long	May 8th, 2007 07:26:23 PM
Without Keith Mars, there IS no Veronica. Jesus, he's the only one of the support cast actually still IN the show as it is. Still not getting my hopes up. The CW can lick my nuts either way.
I don't care if they call it "Blue Toast"... by FilmCritic3000	May 8th, 2007 07:31:44 PM
as long as this show, the best damn show on television comes back next year, I'm game. And David Lazarus Long is right - Keith and Veronica's interactions are what make the show. Their bond is the glue that holds the show together. If nothing else (and as much as I'll miss Mac), they MUST bring Enrico Colantoni into this proposed new incarnation of the series.
What good shows does the CW actually have? by RokurGepta	May 8th, 2007 07:32:12 PM
I enjoy watching Veronica Mars, Supernatural, and Smallville? Anybody know if Supernatural has been renewed or not? If the show becomes Agent Mars, FBI, I don't know if I'll be able to bare watching it... I just had a funny random silly thought ... Are there any Agents in the FBI with the last name Orange? dumb, I know, too much caffeine for me...
I meant "Blue Socks"! by FilmCritic3000	May 8th, 2007 07:37:32 PM
I mailed my letter to Dawn Ostroff, head honcho at The CW. Renew "Veronica Mars", Miss Ostroff!
Veronica Does Dallas by mrtwig48	May 8th, 2007 07:55:50 PM
or at least Kristen Bell does MrTwig48.
No more Supporting cast? CW is NUTS!! by Drath	May 8th, 2007 08:00:17 PM
No Keith? No Logan? No Wallace? No Mac? No Wevil? Are they dead set to ruin or kill this show? They've fucked with it from the start, nevermind that it had a following just fine when it started on their lemon/lime themed network of crap. I dread that they'll ruin this show like I hear they ruined Gilmore Girls. No wonder they haven't meddled with Smallville, it was the only show dumb enough to satisfy them as it was.
I missed the first two minutes... by keanho_in_nyc	May 8th, 2007 08:18:58 PM
Did we see who Keith's competition is?
A new title? by jocutus	May 8th, 2007 08:25:28 PM
In a bizzare twist, Veroncia's new mentor at Quantico is the late Sheriff Lamb's older brother who is a criminologist genius and was rendered a deaf-mute after a run-in with a lector-ish escaped serial killer. The new mentor is the main character of the new series leading a team of misfit FBI wannabes including V. The new title? "Lamb of the Silence" (cause he's a MUTE, get it? HA!) It'll be like Criminal Minds or NCIS for teens and twenty-somethings. Can't Miss, I tells ya! Oh, did I mention its a comedy?
"I hope we're still friends after I taser you." by Pennsy	May 8th, 2007 08:27:44 PM
LMAO. :D
Question by NudeandAroused	May 8th, 2007 08:36:47 PM
For all who seem tobe against the show, where exactly did it lose its greatness?
"An ass-terpiece." by Pennsy	May 8th, 2007 08:54:09 PM

My Before and After by jocutus	May 8th, 2007 08:54:32 PM
Took me a minute to place the song. From the Cotton Mather "Kon Tiki" album from 1997. Sounded familiar. Very Beatles-ish. Especially the full band version.
Sheriff Vinnie? by Pennsy	May 8th, 2007 08:58:51 PM
Sylar, we need to talk; can you go out west and do a little brain surgery? ;)
Agent Mars by JediShaft	May 8th, 2007 09:42:40 PM
Would be a better name. First off this is not CBS, this would be a huge mistake. The supporting characters are what makes this show, and the misuse of the supporting cast is what has weaked this season so much.
Flash forward to Veronica as by kabong	May 8th, 2007 09:56:57 PM
Desperate Housewife Detective, married to John Goodman, and she's psychic too.
VERONICA'S CLOSET!!! by wackybantha	May 8th, 2007 10:02:11 PM
Could work? Special guest star Kirstie Alley.
Please. I Hope Not. by JohnIan	May 8th, 2007 10:05:51 PM
I'm not into the whole FBI boot. It makes more sense that Veronica takes over Mars Investigation. The season arc could be a hit on Keith, leaving him in a coma. Regular bills and hospital bills need to be paid, Veronica takes up her part time hobby - full time. This also marks the first time she is totally alone; no support or guidance from her dad. Remember how emotionally crippled she was when she thought he died in the plane explosion? This would be a very defining year for little Miss Mars. I could also see her needing Mac and Wallace's help for various cases and for the main story. Who tried to kill Keith Mars???
VERONICA MARS .............................. CROSS-EYED by Red Dawn Don	May 8th, 2007 10:17:58 PM
I have only watched this show once, but I enjoyed it. It must have been the teen angst angle. That girl playing VM is a cutey in her blonde cross-eyed sort of way. ***** Harry number all these comments for easy referencing by us posters.
Oh my Lord, what incredible crap. by AnnoyYou	May 8th, 2007 11:45:31 PM
So...they're getting rid of the supporting cast and changing the title? Why don't they just CALL her "Clarice" Mars? Too bad the reason everyone watches the show, namely fangirl favorite Logan Echolls/Jason Dohring, will be gone from this great concept. I really wish they had cancelled it after the first few episodes of S2. Sheesh. Talk about beating a dead horse.
This could work by Mister Mets	May 9th, 2007 12:04:12 AM
I really think Veronica Mars could work as an FBI procedural. One thing that it would do is bring back the season long mystery since it's a lot easier for an FBI agent to become involved in major murder mysteries that than it is for a high-school/ college student. The mysteries would also likely be more dramatic/ high-stakes. Keith Mars would likely be in many episodes, and it would be fun to see him as sheriff getting into arguments over jurisdiction with his daughter. And it would be compelling television if the big mystery of a later season is his murder.
And it would be hilarious if.... by Mister Mets	May 9th, 2007 12:05:07 AM
they did an episode (or two-parter) where Veronica goes undercover in a high school. Hell, that could be the series premiere.
They should also keep Mac as a Cast Member by Mister Mets	May 9th, 2007 12:06:55 AM
I see no reason she can't be the FBI's computer girl, or at the very least Veronica's room-mate.
Bwah-ha-ha-ah-ha-hurk by arrangedletters	May 9th, 2007 12:10:55 AM
So sad. This comes right as the show hits a creative peak because it's been focused on the characters and not the mystery arc.
tonight's episode was slightly disappointing by RokurGepta	May 9th, 2007 12:25:09 AM
but I still loved it...
Who made the creative decision . . . by Mankind	May 9th, 2007 12:34:41 AM
. . . to make tonight's episode all about Hal Fischman talking about a fire?
paul rudd is a god by keyserSOZE	May 9th, 2007 12:43:23 AM
maybe not quite a golden god, or a rock god, but he's definitely a deity of some sort. when paul rudd strikes, hilarity ensues.
Didn't air for me tonight... by DanielKurland	May 9th, 2007 01:50:36 AM
3 + hours of breaking news regarding this brush fire took the time slot instead. I'll see it eventually though.
I've never watched this show by Volstaff	May 9th, 2007 01:59:48 AM
Just one of those shows where I hear a lot mof good stuff about, but I just don't have the time or availability to catch. Maybe I'll check out a season dvd some time.
Mankind by Trader Groucho 2	May 9th, 2007 02:46:16 AM
Thank you! I'm totally bent about that too. Channel 13 didn't cut away from the frakking Hooters girl bikini-fest (and why they didn't choose the Venezuelan hottie is beyond me). The local affiliate just isn't showing VM any love.
Hal Fishman pondered ominously if this fire by Trader Groucho 2	May 9th, 2007 02:47:00 AM
could be the end of Spiderman.
I'm going out on a lime and assuming.... by RokurGepta	May 9th, 2007 03:57:57 AM
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0279 873/
lime is supposed to be limb by RokurGepta	May 9th, 2007 04:02:58 AM
nuff said
Make her a lezzie... by Kid Z	May 9th, 2007 07:31:31 AM
...and call it "Mars Needs Women"!
The foul stench that was... by Kid Z	May 9th, 2007 07:38:17 AM
... UPN has totally infected this chimera called the CW... purging what little good there was in the mix from the WB. The entire network, right down to their friggin' color scheme, is a steaming, corn kernel-flecked, semi-liquid, puss-swirled mound of slowly putrefying, vermin-infested SHITE! Please just let it slowly dissolve into a white, ashy pile and blow away!
I heard that by RokurGepta	May 9th, 2007 08:32:45 AM
Warner Brothers is splitting from the CW and reforming the WB
Vinnie Van Lowe... by Squashua	May 9th, 2007 08:37:52 AM
YOU SNEAKY BASTARD! An "ass" to this community. :-)
Enrico Colantoni by Dradis Contact	May 9th, 2007 08:56:48 AM
I like the fact that dad isn't irrelevant and bumbling. You don't see it on other shows and it's one of VM's strengths. The show appears to be about a teen sleuth and her lawman dad but it's really about trust.
I said it before and I'll say it again ... by Itchy	May 9th, 2007 09:27:03 AM
if you want great ratings, move it to Cinemax, make Veronica Mars go undercover investigating a series of strip club burglaries, and have her decide the only way to solve the crime is to go down on the prime suspect ... some stripper played by guest starring Michelle Trachtenberg. Guaranteed ratings bonanza. As for the FBI idea, it's pretty good actually. You could unload all of the "co-stars" from this season (other than her dad and Vinnie Van Lowe) and I wouldn't care at all ... too many "bit players" and none of them very interesting.
Veronica Mars - WWE Smackdown crossover by rockgolf	May 9th, 2007 10:20:24 AM
(May 9) - AP - CW is proud to announce that a retitled Veronica Mars will return to the CW fall line-up. In a cross promotion, wrestler Val Venis from Friday's top-rated WWE Smackdown will join the series that moves the story five years into the future. Venis will play an eccentric FBI agent who becomes Veronica's mentor as she enters her last year in Quantico. The new series will be retitled, you guessed it, "Val and Veronica". "We tried every other combination of names, but none of the others were memorable", said producer Rob Thomas.
remane it Lesbian Initiations by SylarTheCylon	May 9th, 2007 10:51:51 AM
and have an all female cast where veronica punishes bad, bad girls by forcing them to have sex with her in her basement.
LET - IT - DIE by performingmonkey	May 9th, 2007 10:55:57 AM
Have Kristen Bell join Galactica (as Starbuck's long lost sister who just happens to be in the fleet?)
Make Veronica FBI who returns to Neptune... by Prof. Pop-Cult	May 9th, 2007 11:18:15 AM
This is how you do it: Veronica, a brand-new FBI agent, returns to Neptune to solve a big case. Keith is the sheriff who's also on the case, and father and daughter, though reunited, are at odds over this case. Mac works for Kane Software, and the FBI contracts out Veronica's computer needs to Kane Software, since it doesn't have an office in Neptune. Logan is around, and he could be tied to the big mystery. Mr. Thomas, please feel free to use this setup and PayPal me via my email address. Thank you.
LA Viewers by FentonCrisp	May 9th, 2007 11:36:43 AM
The show got pre-empted last night by coverage of the Griffith Park fires. Anybody know if/when it will re-air?
I love that I already pitched this last Wednesday. by Ellipsian	May 9th, 2007 03:58:14 PM
"Veronica should not be cancelled." by Ellipsian May 2nd, 2007 12:36:40 PM That we know. But should The CW require some kind of change, they should forward the series to V's FBI years, write in as much of the cast as possible, and (naturally) keep Rob Thomas in charge. Most importantly, they should alter the look/name of the show, in order to attract new viewers and make it seem new to lure in the closed-minded morons who won't watch now. Win-win-win. That's what she said.
i love that ausiello's been talking about it for weeks by mollyunravel	May 9th, 2007 05:15:44 PM
at least since mid-march michael ausiello's been reporting about the possible new format that rob thomas proposed to the network. http://community.tvguide.com/b log-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog /Ausiello-Report/Update-Mars-C ast/800010961
i love that ausiello's been talking about it for weeks by mollyunravel	May 9th, 2007 05:16:21 PM
at least since mid-march michael ausiello's been reporting about the possible new format that rob thomas proposed to the network. http://tinyurl.com/2zy3aq
I love that history lesson (& sarcasm, I love sarcasm). by Ellipsian	May 9th, 2007 05:35:51 PM
But the discriminating and detail-oriented reader will notice that my post references the critical difference--an alteration of the name of the show, which to my eyes at least, has been heretofore unmentioned or suggested.
They'd be foolish to ditch Keith by The Selecter	May 9th, 2007 05:53:21 PM
Next to VM, he's the only indispensable character. The fact that the Pussywhatever slut ensemble show outdrew VM, and there are actually people who take up the non-entity Paris Hilton as a cause just shows what a sad state this society is in.
I'll take what I can get, but... by _Maltheus_	May 10th, 2007 05:02:46 PM
...I'm really not looking forward to the FBI thing. The charm of the show is largely based in how Veronica bends rules to do good. If she bends rules as an FBI agent, then I stop rooting for her. If she doesn't, then it'll be too boring and serious. Just like her Dad is more fun as a P.I. than as a sheriff (hence the fake ID lesson of the week). Of the supporting chars to keep, Dad and Dick. The rest can be dismissed. The supporting cast hasn't been worth much since season 1. I say, do a prequel season. Lilly and Veronica together again, as it should be. Think of having Lilly, S1 Logan an S1 Weevil back on the screen. It's the characters that are now lacking, not the venue. That's where the reboot should come from.

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