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AICN Comics: Ambush Bug -vs- SPIDER-MAN 3!

FIRST! by darthbauer	May 5th, 2007 03:59:19 PM
Yay...or second prol' now or third. Whatever...yawn.
I thought the movie was great... by corvette63	May 5th, 2007 04:03:25 PM
It was definitely better than Superman III, the third Batman movie, X-men 3 and definitely the third Blade. Yes, It was a character driven movie but the fight scenes kicked ass. One of my first comics was Web of Spiderman #1 and it was awesome for me to see so many of the things I love about Spidey up on the big screen.
i wish i had a butler by whatyoufear	May 5th, 2007 04:05:34 PM
and a fallout boy haircut
Perfectly said by Keo	May 5th, 2007 04:05:59 PM
This movie did so many things wrong, it was mind boggling. But Ambush Bug hits it right on the head here and lists them all. I never thought a film could fall apart like that. At least Batman & Robin was bad from the start.
ya know... by Lt. Kaffee	May 5th, 2007 04:13:31 PM
i've never been huge on the spider movies. but everytime a trailer came out for a new one i knew was in for the long haul and gonna see it theatrically. Interesting point though... my ex used to loooove the goofy/bizarre aspects of the first two films... and i gotta wonder if to those unfamiliar with comic books... the talking green goblin mask... the "raindrops" walkin' peter... and rest actually attract some viewers.
There was a lot wrong by GrandpaUlrira	May 5th, 2007 04:18:11 PM
but I thought the first half of the movie hit all the right notes. The birth of Sandman was just beautiful. But the end just lost any touch of the grounding in reality that made the first two movies so great, and the giant, stupid Sandman at the end (outta The Mummy Returns), the pretty shitty Venom, and the whole buddies together ("by the way, I know you spent the last one and a half movies brooding over this, but your daddy killed himself. Sorry for not mentioning it before. If you look at Spidey 1.5, you can see my hand reaching up from under the bed and cleaning the wound while you're emoting") just screwed things up too badly. And why the hell would Spidey date the jealous and selfish MJ over the cute cookie girl or Miss Brant anyway?
Movie sucked ass by Horace Cox	May 5th, 2007 04:19:18 PM
I've never been that bored in a theater. If more Spidey movies are to come, they need to restart from scratch with all new talent who will show enthusiasm about the character and embrace the possibilities a good Spidey story can offer. The new actors in 3 gave it their best shot but they aren't given anything meaningful or significant to do so they are relegated to glorified extras. Raimi and company phoned it in on this one. What a waste of time and money.
A PERFECT REVIEW. by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 5th, 2007 04:19:50 PM
Since seeing this monstrosity a few hours ago, I've been thinking about putting my thoughts on a blog, or review site, anything... but there's really no need since you nailed every single thought I've just had. Thank you for this spot-on, perfectly written review of the biggest, 300-million-dollar-dissappoint ment of my life. These guys just raped some of the coolest moments in reading comics of my childhood. What a horrible, horrible day to be a life-long comic book fan. Keep the faith for part 4, brother, I'm with you on the Kraven note. Take care.
Good review Ambush, though by Lando Griffin	May 5th, 2007 04:35:13 PM
I wish we were all singing its praises at this point rather than talking about what could've been and what may be next
If you noticed... by LordEnigma	May 5th, 2007 04:35:33 PM
Venom is not technically dead. There is a little bit of symbiote left. If I remember correctly, that could be enough to bring him back. ALso, Sandman, is not dead. This film...technically...kept it's two villians alive. Which was a nice touch. However, again, this is very much in the vein of the Spidey stories driven by his life and not by the action. He feels his life is going great, then it falls apart. It takes everything in this movie for Spidey and Mary Jane to grow up. Harry was doomed by his own revenged. However, a fourth film, now has a set-up of a grown Pete and Mary Jane. If they want to use it, and Spidey does dance asshole. What do you call fucking Black Cat? Now that's danciN!
^ I agree by misnomer	May 5th, 2007 04:36:16 PM
pevlis thrusting, and the jazz club scene were great. I do agree with the reviewer that the movie didnt give enough screentime to a number of elements and too much to weaker parts (pete/mj especially)
Comic Geeks ARE NOT the audience by antonphd	May 5th, 2007 04:37:53 PM
I read comics since I was a little kid, now I make video games. For my birthday the other day I got myself a couple graphic novels along with my new punching bag. So, ok, I'm not a comic geek, but I do still love them. Spiderman was always my favorite by far. Now, I understand the disappointment in the film. It's just not something anyone who isn't a comic geek is feeling. The crying bothers guys, but crying in any movie bother guys. This movie wasn't made just to satisfy the comic geeks. It has many many many many touches that are for comic geeks clearly, you know that's true, but it was made for the billion dollar audience. Personally, I find that the soap opera drama of this movie is the most mature of the 3. It's not as tight as the other 3 that's clear. It's too bad that you can't enjoy it like everyone else. I know people say it's a matter of the general movie public not having good taste that they are loving it(and they are, midnight geek heavy shows are 180% different from the general audiences this weekend) but you have to consider that geeks don't have good taste to begin with. It's sad, because the movie is a B and because it's not an A the one group who should enjoy it most doesn't. Maybe... maybe because you're not a little kid and this movie is for little kids. Maybe... maybe because you want Kraven the hunter and Lizard(as do I) and there's no fucking way that will happen in a family movie. Spiderman got as dark as he'll ever be in this movie. They could NOT go darker without losing parents approval of the movie. And let's face it... just because you and I still read comics as adults, doesn't mean that the movies should be gears toward us 1%-2%. Anyway, I liked it much more the second time, when my expectations were gone and I could just enjoy the movie. I think you will too. It's not a bad movie, just doesn't stack up to the 1st two. There it is. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Sex with just you and your girlfriend/wife after a threesome with that hot chick at christmas can still be fun.
i can see where you're coming from by allyousay	May 5th, 2007 04:41:21 PM
but I disagree to a point. True, it had its faults, but still, it was a kick ass movie. They did an excellant job on Venom and Sandman, but I do have to concede on the fact that they should've shown more darkness through the suit instead of through the person. Perhaps they should've shown Spidey becoming an excuitioner on some small-time thugs after he "kills" Sandman. The ending though...the VERY ending...the MJ/Peter ending....SHOULD. NOT. HAVE. HAPPENED. It was tacked on, pointless, and completely ruined the awesome ending that would've happend with Pete's signature monologue.
SO embarassed to be a fanboy... by Audets70	May 5th, 2007 04:42:22 PM
I will admit...Im a fanboy, but I want OUT of the club!!! You guys are just a disgrace. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. ALl most of you ever do. Gotta wonder how one can go thru life NOT LIKING ANYTHING?? I am so fucking sick of this sloppy editing shit being shovled at Spidey 3!!! Where were at you jackasses bitching about the awful editing in RETURN OF THE KING and its 30 endings??? And that piece of shit won an editing oscar and you all cheered? Double standard much? THis review 100% lost me when he said it was sloppy editing to see Peter outside talking to Harry and then the next scene hes backstage. That HAS to be the lamest bash on Spidey 3 I have heard yet...and Ive heard so many stupid ones. Did this Comic reviewer REALLY need an extra scene showing Pete go back into the bulding and get backstage to see his girl? WTF? If that scene HAD been in the film, the reviewer would be bitching cause they didnt need to have it, cause even a mentally challenged 2 year old could figure it out without seeing it. You fanboys...especially on this site...have just been downright sicking in the last year. THe bitching about EVRYTHING that doenst involve gay midgets walking is beyond annoying.
Someone Call Chris Nolan by Liberty Valance	May 5th, 2007 04:43:01 PM
For we are in dire need of a "Spider-Man Begins." For the majority of this movie I sat staring blankly at the screen with mouth agape, utterly horrified at what unfolded before my eyes. The incessant weeping, the contrived plot devices (amnesia..are you fucking serious?), the criminally underdeveloped villains, the muddled fight sequences, the atrocious script, the absebce of comic relief from J. Jonah Jameson. Then throw in that they abritrarily killed off another great villain after a lifespan of about 45 minutes. This series needs fresh blood. A new Spidey, a new director and a screenwriter under 80 years old would be a good start. RIP Spider-Man.
Missed opportunity with the dance scene by SoupDragon	May 5th, 2007 04:43:22 PM
That whole segment was crying out for a Hypno Hustler cameo.
on sandman. peters parents by iwontwin	May 5th, 2007 04:44:00 PM
the reason sandman was sent to prison, is because he was hired to kill ben parker, who was a spy. Peter Parker's parents were spys in the cold war, and peter parker is part of some cloning experiment gone haywire. thats why you never see his mom and dad. The sandman ran to the only military base he knew could corroborate his story, but ended up hiding in one of their experiments.
I dug it, but don't read comics much. by kikuchiyoboy	May 5th, 2007 04:44:22 PM
The audience seemed split. Some seemed to have dug it and some seemed to have been VERY underwhelmed. I actually really dug it. It was all about Parker. It was a journey through the heart and soul of a superhero. Eventhough, the script wasn't well thought out and quite a few things seemed to fit too neatly. But what Sam Raimi, editor Bob Murawski and the actors brought to the screen was a wonderful kaleidoscope of images and emotions. They took a slam bam frenetic script and somehow managed it to squeeze out a single story about the growth of Peter Parker and the Superhero within. I could see why a lot of people won't dig this. There's story lines and character developents coming in from all angles, but it isn't about them. It's like a painting buy Picasso. I'm not saying this film is fine art. But what I am saying is that you have all these different sections that are expressing different sides of power. It's a view of a superhero through a prism. It's one giant collective. It's all about the bits and pieces. The full picture isn't recognized until you take a step back. Once again it's all Parker. It's jump from slapstic to very soapy style moments help mold the overall emotional tone. It's much how we are in life. There's no easy line between good and bad. There are wonderful surreal moments in our lives mixed in with real dark moments. It's not linear. Things just come at you at all sides. Life is one big jumbled collection of memories twirling around in the now. It's not till you take a breather from where you are at this very moment that you can put things into perspective. I thought this movie kind of captured that. Maybe without even knowing it captured that. Much like" Buffy the Vampire Slayer" it translated the emotional core of people's lives into a heightened reality. But that's how it is in life sometimes. Sometime something comes out from left feild that it feels so surreal you become third person. Then moments after it hits you. Spiderman 3 was one fun ride. It was different from the average comic book or action film. It was more about the journey of the character. There was no real plot. It was just a crazy day in the life a superhero or that is Peter Parker. I don't deny that there are MANY tparts about the script that are squint inducing. Overall I like the impression of the characterof Spidey. Like I said I'm not a huge comic book reader. I only recently got back into it again. I read things like Fell, 30 Days of Night, X-23, Buffy and whatnot. So I know the writing doesn't reflect the comic book world. I don't know if the average movie goer thinks that. For one reason. There are many MANY shitty action films out there today that get the happy pat on the back by movie goers. I don't think they care about the source. Only if the media or reviewers emphasize that it's a comic book movie is when they think of it as one. I don't know. That's just my opinion. Reading these reviews I can see why they didn't like it. I don't have any real connection to the Spidey world, but dug what they were trying with this film. It's a Hollywood version and a completely seperate entity. But there's enough moments that Sam Raimi pulled through to give it an interesting overall picture. It's not for everyone, but I obviously dug it. Besides who am I, but one lone ticket buyer?
LordEnigma by antonphd	May 5th, 2007 04:45:07 PM
I agree 100% about Peter finally becoming a grown up in this movie. That ending was way beyond what I ever expected out of a Spiderman or any comic book movie. Best ending in any fantasy movie period in my opinion. Utter beauty. I know exactly how it feels to be in that position that Mary Jane and Peter are in the end and it was the most real and mature moment. I was just so gutted by it when I saw it the second time. The first I was waiting for the last moment of swinging spidey and was kinda disappointed. But the second time... I was just... wow... how the fuck did a moment that deep end up in a spiderman movie?? That's not even shit you get in any american movies. Definitley felt like Peter and Mary Jane were very much real and learning to grow up together. Forgiving each other after what they did... and it does happen just like that... except you have the make up sex on the table... but the looks they had and the way they were vulnerable and insecure as they open themselves back up to each other. Great moment. I don't expect it to be lived up to in sequels though. I think Raimi ended his trilogy on a moment he could feel proud of, even if geeks can't see it yet. They will.
if The Borg saw SpiderMan 3, would they like it? by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 04:45:11 PM
if The Borg went to the movies and saw SpiderMan 3, do you think they would like it?
Just keep the maximum number of villains to one by Doc_Strange	May 5th, 2007 04:48:39 PM
Problem solved.
WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE by TotallyGayForChristianBale	May 5th, 2007 04:49:46 PM
I went through and told my friends exactly what I would have done, and they agreed that that would have made more sense and worked better thematically. I would have started the movie with Peter being very organized and fastidious with his life now, like he's got everything in order. He makes sure he's on time to see MJ's show, and all that. More or less identical to how this movie starts off. I would abandon all the NYC
I Hate emo kids, and emo haircuts. by IngoSaint	May 5th, 2007 04:51:02 PM
They are not badass and movie studios need to stop going towards that if they believe it conveys you are a bad guy.
Get over yourselves by spiderknight1102	May 5th, 2007 04:51:17 PM
I am sick of all these talkbackers trashing this movie so much , was it pefect no , could it have been better, yes but the same could be said for every movie . It is still worlds apart from almost every other comic book movie to date. Get over yourselves and knock those chips off your shoulders , and if you think you could of made it better WHY DONT YOU ! , go ahead go out there and actually try that , I would love to see the crap that comes out of your asses.
Betty was the real star of the movie! by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 04:51:32 PM
Betty and her buzzer!
how many movies have y'all written? by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 04:53:50 PM
since everyone seems to have a good idea for SpiderMan. How many scripts has anyone here handed in to the Marvel & Sony offices?
Betty and her "buzzer" sounds hot. by kikuchiyoboy	May 5th, 2007 04:54:04 PM
Hee hee. That is all.
"That's not the position i hired you for!" by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 04:55:32 PM
the theater laughed out loud at that!
I've Decided. I'm never going to see this. by DOGSOUP	May 5th, 2007 05:02:33 PM
I'm perfectly happy letting the cinematic Spidey end at Spider Man 2. "Thanks Spidey, you've been a great movie character for those two movies but I'm going to have to block you. You see, the kids will think comic books suck now and as a parent I just can't allow that"
"MJ is a conceited bitch!" by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 05:03:34 PM
thats exactly how she came off on screen.
your complaints are so anal . . . by freak2thec0re	May 5th, 2007 05:07:18 PM
"Sloppy editing: At the very beginning, Peter sees Harry leaving the Broadway show MJ is performing in and has words with his former best friend. End scene and somehow Peter is now backstage with MJ." -- what did you want, a five minute scene where we watch him walk back inside the theatre, through it and into the backstage area? you think that would have made the movie better? "sloppy storytelling: Harry shows up in the third act sporting a scar when the audience wasn’t even made privy to the fact that he survived the earlier confrontation." I don't even understand that complaint.
Harry's hair sure grew back fast! by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 05:09:17 PM
for a guy who survived a firebomb he sure grew his hair back quickly!
Avenge ME, Butler!!!!! by George Newman	May 5th, 2007 05:11:43 PM
I wanted Norman to cry out to the butler. That would have been icing on the cake.
CAll 'em like you see 'em, @$$hole! by Squashua	May 5th, 2007 05:12:17 PM
Good review, AB!
why were Captain & Gwen Stacy at Harry's funeral? by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 05:14:15 PM
did they even know him?
Well said by Fabulous Freak	May 5th, 2007 05:19:04 PM
Peter should have macked the shit out of Gwen to show the suit's influence on his personality. Fuckin danceoff.
The audience in my theater... by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 5th, 2007 05:20:45 PM
Sure, I do appreciate everyone's opinion on who this movie was made for, and I can definitely agree with your opinion on this movie NOT being made for comic book geeks, antonphd. However, I had to add that I saw this movie today at a 1:00 pm show full of little kids. The kids were completely loving it, laughing at every joke... and... every touching moment. Every time I'd groan over some lame joke or odd-fitting emotional crying sequence, there would be a giant crowd of kids laughing through the whole thing. At the end of this film... the laughing continued through every crying scene and there were several groans and sighs when the credits started to roll. Everyone left with these sad faces, people were shaking their heads in what seemed to me like disappointment. I can sure remember the looks of complete amazement when leaving the theater after 1 and 2. I felt like I'd just seen the best thing ever. Afterwards I called a friend of mine who doesn't like comic books at all, and whom I'd consider an average film-going guy. He's not read all these reviews and been emersed in the hype of negativity like me. When I asked what he thought about it, he told me it was a 300 million dollar waste of time... he was really shocked at how terrible some of the scenes were, and he actually asked me... "was that Venom guy that lame in the comic books?" "Why did they cry so much?" "What happened to Sandman's daughter?" I totally agree that this movie wasn't made just for the 2% of us comic fans... but in my opinion only, the things Ambush Bug talks about here aren't just geek issues... they're bad filmmaking issues in general. I agree with him completely here, but this is only my opinion. You guys are right, the numbers and money will speak for itself, and those of us who didn't enjoy it will be swept under the rug as usual. No big deal, it's just a movie. Take care.
Sloppy Storytelling = Spider-Man 3 by Kezilla	May 5th, 2007 05:22:24 PM
>>"sloppy storytelling: Harry shows up in the third act sporting a scar when the audience wasn’t even made privy to the fact that he survived the earlier confrontation." I don't even understand that complaint.
Sloppy Storytelling & Scars by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 5th, 2007 05:26:24 PM
I understood Ambush Bug's complaint to mean that all we get to see is a HUGE explosion in Harry's face. The same kind of bomb that blew Venom to NOTHING only scarred up Harry's face a little bit. All we see is the guy getting blown to hell, and then he just shows up out of nowhere (like a day later?) with a big ass scar and that's it. Maybe Ambush Bug means to ask: did he go to a hospital? Did the Osborn drug give him super healing powers? How the HELL did he SURVIVE that kind of explosion? I mean, holy fuck, it was blowing the columns down and knocking paint off the wall. Wouldn't that have blown his damn arms and legs off? It melted Venom like a piece of styrofoam in a microwave, and Harry's face is the only thing that was hurt? Seems way weird to me too.
I bet Dylan Baker (DR. CONNORS/LLIZARD) is pissed by George Newman	May 5th, 2007 05:27:12 PM
I'm sure his casting meeting went like this: "We'd like you to play Dr. Curt Connors. He is a teacher/mentor character for peter, and he turns into THE LIZARD!! Now we won't do the Lizard in the first film, but we'll work on developing him for the second, or at the very least by the third film. Dr. Connors: Sounds awesome. Sign me up. I also suspect Anna Paquin's casting for Rogue in X-Men went that way too.
I'll try this again... by Kezilla	May 5th, 2007 05:29:03 PM
"sloppy storytelling: Harry shows up in the third act sporting a scar when the audience wasn’t even made privy to the fact that he survived the earlier confrontation." I don't even understand that complaint." What it means is that unless you're a comic book geek (whom this movie apparently wasn't made for)you're not going to remember that super-healing is part of the Goblin powers package, and you'll be scratching your head that Harry survived the expolosion (which needed either a througly messed up Harry coming out of the flames or some kind of acknoledgement from Dark Peter that he's surprised that Harry's not dead), much less had the time to form badly healed scar tissue instead of raw wounds.
Kezilla = exactly right. by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 5th, 2007 05:31:52 PM
I totally agree... seeing a messed-up Harry moving around or walking out of the flames WOULD have done the trick. Really.. ANYTHING would have been better. Right on man.
Dancing Spider-Man Gif: The Movie! by Flim Springfield	May 5th, 2007 05:37:45 PM

aint that bad by sagasea	May 5th, 2007 05:39:44 PM
I have got to disagree with most of the hyperbole surrounding this movie - too many threads to follow - please you don't need ADD to follow this film you just have to let it flow. I enjoyed the movie was it perfect - no. What a shock? It was never going to be as I envisaged it but that aint no bad thing I aint Sam Raimi. What he got right he knocked out the park - the gestation of sandman was incredible so much was said without words it was the most moving CGI scene I have ever had the privilege to view - the action was awesome and I thought venom worked - I was all set to hate it but in an actual story with more thatn one dimension he's only worth 20mins tops in the scope of this film. the singing - criticism is fair enough - there was a bit too much - sam made it clear from the first 15mins that mj could'nt hold a note no need to keep punishing us with the bad chicago style numbers. Overall I really enjoyed spiderman 3 it aint as good as 2 but I enjoyed it more than the 1 - go see it and make up your own mind :)
Don't know why people's panties are all in a bunch.. by halfmadjesus	May 5th, 2007 05:43:40 PM
...I'd say Spider-Man 3 was about on par with the other two. Yeah, they probably crammed too much in this time, and there are contrivances a-plenty, but that's all I could really find fault with. It seemed to pretty much fit the tone and pacing of the other films. Audience I saw it with seemed to dig it. Maybe people's expectations were a tad too high this time around?
A comic book is what... by Napoleon Park	May 5th, 2007 05:44:04 PM
...about 17 to 22 pages long? Okay, Ditko packed in a standard nine panels per page grid and Lee was verbose. Still, it's hard to believe that they can't take a comic book and get it to fit into a two hour movie. "Well, let's take the entire five year story arcs of a half dozen different characters and then stuff them into one movie." Well, DON'T. Spider-Man is Marvel's mainstay character, an iconic American hero. Are they telling us that in forty-five years there hasn't been one single Spider-Man story, arc or graphic novel that would stand up on it's own as a film? The original Sinister Six annual? "The Kid Who Collected Spider-man"? "Just A Guy Named Joe?" Not one goddam Spider-Man story they could make a movie out of? * They get a bunch of non-comics writers in a room and they don;t even read the comics they just read about the comics. Okay, what's the best Spider-Man story. "The Death of Gwen Stacy". Let's see, here's a panel with the Green Goblin impaled on his glider. That's a good visual, let's use that. Wait, who's Gwen Stacy? I thought Spider-Man was married to Mary Jane Parker? Okay, lose Gwen Stacy and put in Mary Jane... but we can't have the hero married... and we can't kill Mary jane because she married parker in the future... so we make The Death of Gwen Stacy and call it "The (non death) of (not in this movie)". * A-ha, after all these years of recycling the 'what's it called?' joke, I finally figured out why these fucking movies don't have titles. Take a story, remove all the story elements, and then use what you have left: nothing. That's your title: "Spider-Man (nothing)." Now I get it.
oh boy is it ever bad by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 05:49:46 PM
the first time i saw it i came out with a mixed feeling, so i went back to rewtach it for the 2nd time all the contriavens really got to me, then there were some really dumb choices they made to get things going (okay so harry goes into the chamber but the way they showed it, it played out with an absolute FLAT note, just like the retarded score by christopher young)..... when eddie brock's camera got smashed by the "evil" spidey (does brock have a radar attached to spidey's butt or something? or maybe it was the cabbie with the psyhic powers who knows exactly where spidey is at any given moment) eddie says "WHAT THE HELL!?" as the spidey leaps into the sewers - topher, you just read my mind.
Spidey 1 by killjoke99	May 5th, 2007 05:54:24 PM
ok, i'm not sure if anyone really talked about this but its been bothering me since i saw the movie. here goes... alright, when we break it down, the essence of spiderman comes down to the infamous line of "with great power, comes great responsibility...," right? that whole idea comes from the fact that peter had the power to stop the robber/burglar from escaping the wrestling arena and chose not to (i'm going with movie continuity here, fyi). ok, so raimi decides to tweak the origin by having marko/sandman be the shooter. ok. in my mind, that completely washes out the emotional resonance of the first film. when peter sees ben die, and begins his chase of the "killer," that scene gave me goosebumps when i first saw back in '02. you are with him when he is on his raging quest to find him. and in my eyes, whenever peter/spidey is fighting or chasing a bad guy, hypothetically its the burglar he's chasing. because he can never choose NOT to use his powers to stop something bad from going down. so anyway, in spidey 1 he's not even chasing the actual shooter of ben? and forgives marko? accident or not, that doesn't sit well with me. what i'm trying to say (and i don't think i'm writing this exactly how i want it to come out...) is that the plot in this movie falls waaaaay short of the previous two. i wish it maintained the quality. but, nevertheless, some scenes were good i just wish they chose to have just sandman or just venom (preferably sandman as church did have some emotional character moments). ok, my thoughts are all over the place so i'll end this here. does anyone get what i'm saying?
blah....blah....blah by sith-vol	May 5th, 2007 05:55:26 PM
I can not even begin to count the number of negative reviews for Spider-Man 3 on AICN. Fine. Perhaps all of the fanboys of Spidey, myself included should just get over it and quit the bitching already. I didn't love the movie, but I didn't hate it either. I would think that by now, everyone would realize that eventually, comic book films let us down....no matter which comic its based on. The origins are almost nerver right, the characters are wrong or the story is just shit. Spider-Man is no different...imagine that. We have now been given three films that, until now, got geek semen all over them. Now though, Spidey 3 has been uncovered for what it is....just a movie...and not even a great one...GASP! Give me a break. While I agree with a lot of the posters here about the problems with the film, I.E. phone tag, dancin petey, and an under-utilized Venom....I thought this film measured up well against the first film which only had Willem DaFoe going for it. I think that everyone should just get over it and realize that the film wasnt awful...its only crime was not meeting everyone's expectations....so shame on it.
brock telepathic powers by sagasea	May 5th, 2007 05:55:29 PM
My interpretation was brock used the same radio frequencies parker used to listen in to police radio that and bribes to NYPD officers for info - aint that far fetched - all he'd need would be cash and a moby :)
Hell yes, Killjoke99. by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 5th, 2007 06:02:16 PM
Dude, I'm RIGHT with you on that one. It's like this movie should have been Spider-man 3, 4, 5 and 6 in one film. All these different plot lines which should have been HUGE... they each could have EASILY been their own film.. all jammed into one. Making such a GIGANTIC decision about having Flint Marko be Uncle Ben's real killer... and not giving it the proper attention and explanation, did (in my opinion) WRECK the emotional ties to the first film. Personally, it left me feeling confused, irritated and frustrated that something as important and emotionally stirring as the Uncle Ben situation was made as a really weak plot device to (badly) advance Flint Marko's dry character. I completely agree with you. The Sandman's story would have made an EXCELLENT sequel, if given the time to further develop him and push his tragic story all the way through. The same could be said for Harry's sequences and ESPECIALLY the Venom problem. Topher Grace gets NO time to shine here! It's SO damn rushed, I wanted a whole, beautiful film about this interesting character... not 15 minutes. The symbiote has a wonderful set of personality traits that was just buried under lame phone calls, crying scenes and jazz dance sequences in this movie. 4 films in 1 = 2 and a half hours in a dentist's chair.
well that does make sense by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 06:03:19 PM
i know im just nitpicking, but brock gets there before the cops, that just aint right. Oh well that scene is just one of the 100 coincidences in this movie, and it wasnt among the biggest ones.
You know... in the end... the movie is a mixed bag. by antonphd	May 5th, 2007 06:03:30 PM
I really enjoyed it. It did everything wrong that everyone is saying(though I do disagree with the dancing part cause that shit was hilarious) but it's not a bad film. It's just not as good as the first 2 and it's clear that it is due to having too many characters and not enough time to follow them thru and you can also see that Raimi had ZERO passion about Venom. There you go. Raimi always said he hated Venom and he was forced to put him in the film. Consider that it's not easy to make everything work when you do have passion. And, who the fuck would have passion for Venom, he's just plain retarded. Movies are hard to make and harder with a time limit and being forced to add major elements into the mix of what you already had going. I see this movie as the best it could be considering the situation. it's exactly part awesome and part wtf?? that's hollywood for you. but... FUCK YOU to the people saying that the actors weren't into the roles. i don't know what crack you are smoking. nobody phoned in their performance. seemed to me that everyone was a step up from the last two movies.
its not ALL bad but its 75% bad by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 06:09:04 PM
i really liked the "angry" spidey when he was punching the shit out of sandman between the tracks down in the sewers. "Its time to pay marko", that was very nicely done. Really made spidey out to be the bad guy when considering sandman's motives. But then again sandman's motives take away the significants of ben's death in the first 2, making the angry spidey lines feeling cheap.
and i agree by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 06:11:45 PM
for the most part the actors did what they could with the scripts, with their lines and their roles. 13 year old venom fans, suntanning studio execs, old man avi arad are the ones to blame. raimi's got his revenge on the studios with this one.
$59 million says it all by Rupee88	May 5th, 2007 06:13:03 PM
Any of you who paid to see this are supporting bad movies and ensuring more will be made...thanks guys!
75% bad - bollocks by sagasea	May 5th, 2007 06:18:50 PM
I have seen some shite in my time -i.e. phantom menace - spiderman 3 is well worth 2hrs of your time you won't love everything in it but JJ Jamieson is worth the price of admission alone his scene with his secretary and the pills is hilarious :) and did I mention the bruce back to his cringeing best as THE french waiter - awesome - sil vou plait :)75% bad - feck off and review the last mimzy.
negative spidey 1&2 reviews = whiney fanboys..... by waggy	May 5th, 2007 06:29:30 PM
negative spidey 3 reviews = viewer who can tell a good movie from a bad one. there is a difference. this is the series' batman forever. and this from someone who liked x3 and was slightly disappointed but still enjoyed superman returns.
okay im probably being a whiny harsh bigbaby by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 06:33:48 PM
but didnt peter steal mj from jj's son in spiderman2? seems like jj's got a case of amnesia as well.
SONY should take all the money this makes and by The Only Woj	May 5th, 2007 06:34:51 PM
remake Spider-Man 3. a complete do-over. Raimi is to blame, but not completely. he should have stuck to his guns about not having Venom. I mean, as a trilogy, why let yourself get strongarmed into a finale that you don't want? It always felt like Venom would be the big draw for the first post-Raimi film, but now that is gone. Unless they pull something like Hulk 2, and forget continuity. but that would mean waiting 4-5 years. really unforunate. Spidey 3 isn't a bad movie ... people SHOULD still see it if they're on the fence ... it's just a massive disappointment. and it's hurt the options for sequels.
spiderman 3 - this series batman forever?-hmm no! by sagasea	May 5th, 2007 06:37:14 PM
SM3 comes no were near the car crash which was batman forever, am getting fed up with the assumption that spiderman fans hate batman or someant - are from same demographic - get a grip :) Go see this movie and decide for yourself I enjoyed it and I was dreading watchin it after reading AICN reviews.
Some fan-tards don't have a sense of humor by BrowncoatJedi	May 5th, 2007 06:40:29 PM
As if Saturday Night Fever Peter was serious!
Interesting ... by Darth_Valinorean	May 5th, 2007 06:52:23 PM
As a huge comics fan and having read comics from age 7-8, I can assure you I understand the pain of Ambush Bug - I really do. This is a movie and they have strayed - strayed too far when expectations are high and keeping it true to the characters would have been easy. Raimi could easily explore, as Bug, you correctly say, the 'Dark' side of Pete with the suit. How hard it is to take off .. how it appears over and over again .. how violent it makes him stuff like that. Pete going overboard as Spidey with a simple mugger would suffice. A salsa is not the same as knocking the shit out of a mugger. I think that at the end of the day is the key point. I agree with Bug almost 99% on this review.
fantads - don't have a sense of humor by sagasea	May 5th, 2007 06:53:08 PM
Totally agree jedi, SNF Peter was obviously for comic relief and I enjoyed those scenes - spiderman at his cockiest - whats not to enjoy he's turning the hotties on and he's at heart a nerd - what's not to love about that scenario? :)
we get it, the dancing was supposed to be funny by waggy	May 5th, 2007 06:54:41 PM
doesn't mean we want to watch a movie where the characters and universe are treated as 1 dimensional jokes. i think i speak for just about every so-called "hater" here (with a few exceptions) when i say that i take absolutely no pleasure in trashing this movie and wanted nothing more than to love it as much as the first two.
Let's hope the DVD will have the 3 hour version! by HEROES FOR SALE	May 5th, 2007 06:55:23 PM
I can't help but think that if they kept Venom for a fourth film this would have been better than Spider-man 2. A film with Peter wearing the Black suit, exploring and enjoying the power would have been awesome. A darker film with a cliffhanger ending. FUCK Hollywood!!! They always rush this shit.
SpiderMan 3 - this series Phantom Menace? by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 07:11:19 PM
i think no!
this movie needed some Cybermen! by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 07:15:46 PM
delete! delete!
COMIC RELIEF??? by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 5th, 2007 07:17:50 PM
I think the biggest mistake was EXACTLY the comic relief!!! Darth_Valinorean was soooo right in making the point about the mugger. The Venom series in Ultimate Spider-man really did a great job in showing how the suit made him into an aggressive maniac... when he stops that crazy mugger in the comics and all his emotions build up, he starts seeing Uncle Ben's killer instead of the bum, and gets ENRAGED... almost killing the bastard with his bare hands... even showing the teeth for a second there. That dance sequence (for comic relief as you say) completely wrecked the seriousness and horror of that suit. A scene where he loses his cool with a mugger in this movie (instead of a jazz dance sequence and hitting some bouncer) would have made SO much more sense and added so much needed explanation to the plot. All that talk about how powerful the suit makes him, and we never get to see it. What a shame, man. Damn.
yeah in the first scene where spidey goes "this suit" by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 07:24:43 PM
is to powerful, they didnt really show anything apart from the regular spidey. How about showing off the ability to move faster, jump higher (you know, since hes black)?
so the "black" SpiderMan was evil...how racist! by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 07:28:23 PM
i hope Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton dont see this movie!
ultimately, the movie is targeted to kids and teens. by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 07:41:51 PM
not adults or comic fans, because the majority of the audience i was with were little kids and tweens.
Not bad by jsm1978	May 5th, 2007 07:46:17 PM
I saw the movie a couple hours ago, and I liked it. No, it wasn't as good as the last one, and yes they should have saved Venom for number 4 so that there was less wedged in. However, it isn't NEARLY as bad as many of you are making it out to be. All this "they need to reboot the franchise" talk is flat out stupid.
Sorry for the double post by jsm1978	May 5th, 2007 07:48:19 PM
But I forgot to mention... I really don't understand the inclusion of Gwen Stacy at this point. Could have just made it Felicia Hardy and set up for a future appearance by the Black Cat.
"my spidey sense is tingling if you know what i mean"! by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 07:51:55 PM
when Venom said that line it got some laughs in the audience!
Ahhhhhhhhhh by livrule	May 5th, 2007 08:03:06 PM
Makes X3 look Oscar worthy!
.... by The Dum Guy	May 5th, 2007 08:06:43 PM
I've resigned to wait for the DVD, at least then I can get get drunk and watch this (maybe ensuring a good experience watching it).
OK, it wasnt as good as part 2, but it wasnt that bad! by jojo-pimp	May 5th, 2007 08:11:52 PM
I mean...yeah, some sloppy story telling..but some good action, good humour, great FX, and yeah, it does bring the whole peter/harry/mj story full circle at least. Not my favorite of the series by far, but not as terrible as some people are saying
SpiderMan-3 gets a "B-" from Yahoo Movies. by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 08:12:37 PM
is that good?
what were the trailers with SpiderMan 3? by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 08:30:14 PM
i know there was Harry Potter, POTC: AWE, Surfs Up, and there is another one i cant remeber. it was about the 60's or something.
Rupee88 & Boomers_Lips by AlwaysThere	May 5th, 2007 08:32:23 PM
I need to watch a movie before I can truthfully say that it sucks. That or acquire it through some over avenue. Boomers, a B- on Yahoo is NOT a good thing.
yep i need to rewtach the first 2 movies to by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 09:07:16 PM
erase the bad memories of this one, have to wait for an extended and recut DARKER version of this movie to be able to even consider it an offical sequel.... "awesome?" "wicked cool?" no kids, how about godzilla should have no place in a spiderman movie.
why SpiderMan 3 smelled so bad. by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 09:16:17 PM
Sam Raimi, writer/director of Spider-Man 3, told SCI FI Wire that he had a smaller sequel in mind with fewer characters, until producers Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin suggested adding a key villain and a key love interest. "I had worked on the story with my brother, Ivan, and primarily it was a story that featured the Sandman [Thomas Haden Church]," Raimi said in a news conference in Beverly Hills, Calif., last week. "It was really about Peter, Mary Jane, Harry and that new character." That's Peter Parker/Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire), Mary Jane Watson (Kirsten Dunst) and Harry Osborn (James Franco). Then Ziskin suggested adding Gwen Stacy, played by Bryce Dallas Howard, a popular character in the Marvel comics, who was Peter Parker's first love interest before she perished and before Mary Jane Watson appeared. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire /index.php?category=3&id=41291
Jonny_Dr_Thunder by waggy	May 5th, 2007 09:23:24 PM
you nailed it. a ten second scene where spidey lifts a truck and goes "wow, couldn't do that before" would quickly establish the increased power the suit gives him. and a beating gone too far switched in for the dance scene would show why the suit is bad for him. black suit spidey should be someone you cheer on at first, then become wary of, then outright scared of. not the annoying little punk they made him here. and save venom for the cliffhanger ending (a la harry discovering the goblin shit in 2), which would give sony 2 billion dollar blockbusters intead of one. geez, it would've been so easy to make this movie awesome.
Boomers_Lips by waggy	May 5th, 2007 09:28:32 PM
it's so frustrating to read that. when in the history of cinema has studio interference ever resulted in a better film? the man made them over a billion dollars with the first two movies (to say nothing of the revenue reaped from licensing). you'd think they'd have a little confidence in the guy at this point.
Boy... by F69	May 5th, 2007 09:32:55 PM
Harry Osbourne sure banged his head alot in that movie.
I liked it by Dkev00	May 5th, 2007 09:38:00 PM
Just saw it at the IMAX. I really enjoyed it. For as much as they jammed into it, I thought it flowed pretty well. I actually thought it is better then the first two. But you know I'm just one of those people that can go to a movie like this and just enjoy it. I don't try to nit pick it like some that have no fucking life. It's a popcorn movie nothing more nothing less. And I was entertained, so it was a good night.
its really Avi Arad's and Laura Ziskin's fault! by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 09:39:15 PM
Sam Raimi, writer/director of Spider-Man 3, told SCI FI Wire that he had a smaller sequel in mind with fewer characters, until producers Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin suggested adding a key villain and a key love interest. "I had worked on the story with my brother, Ivan, and primarily it was a story that featured the Sandman [Thomas Haden Church]," Raimi said in a news conference in Beverly Hills, Calif., last week. "It was really about Peter, Mary Jane, Harry and that new character." That's Peter Parker/Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire), Mary Jane Watson (Kirsten Dunst) and Harry Osborn (James Franco). Then Ziskin suggested adding Gwen Stacy, played by Bryce Dallas Howard, a popular character in the Marvel comics, who was Peter Parker's first love interest before she perished and before Mary Jane Watson appeared. "Well, my brother and I had written in the story about another woman that recognized Peter and knew who he was at this dinner and that Mary Jane got jealous of her," Raimi said. "But Laura Ziskin, my producer, said, 'Let's make it Gwen.' And I said, 'I don't think I should, because, ... really, Gwen was introduced before Mary Jane in the comic books, and now I'm introducing her later, and ... she's not even in high school anymore. She's in college. And I'm afraid if I introduce Gwen, the fans will have all these expectations, which we're not going to deliver in this picture.' And she said, 'Well, the fans would much rather have Gwen make an introduction now, and you can do what you need to do or someone can do what they need to do in the fourth picture with her, but at least you've introduced her, and they would appreciate that.'" Raimi said he considered the suggestion. "After much soul-searching, I thought, 'Maybe it's true. I've already screwed up the order, and I've already started the Mary Jane [storyline] first,'" Raimi said. "'Whenever [Gwen's] introduced, she'll be introduced in the wrong order. I might as well give the fans the introduction to Gwen.' So I took her advice and named her Gwen Stacy and therefore connected her to a policeman who had been on the periphery of the scenes [and became her father, Capt. Stacy, played by James Cromwell]. Made a little stronger relationship between them but, not much, just enough to be true to the fact that she was his daughter. That's about all." As he has discussed previously, Raimi added that it was Arad's idea to add the villain Venom to the mix. "Avi Arad, my partner and the former president of Marvel at the time, said to me, 'Sam, ... you're not paying attention to the fans enough,'" Raimi said. "'You need to think about them. You've made two movies now with your favorite villains, and now you're about to make another one with your favorite villains. The fans love Venom. He is the fan favorite. All Spider-Man readers love Venom, and even though you came from '70s Spider-Man, this is what the kids are thinking about. Please incorporate Venom. Listen to the fans now.' And so that's really where I realized, 'OK, maybe I don't have the whole Spider-Man universe in my head. I need to learn a little bit more about Spider-Man and maybe incorporate this villain to make some of the real die-hard fans of Spider-Man finally happy.'" Spider-Man 3 opens May 4.
sorry if my last post was too long. by Boomers_Lips	May 5th, 2007 09:41:37 PM
im very passionate about this, or really drunk.
what i still don't understand by waggy	May 5th, 2007 09:50:27 PM
why did they feel like they HAD to cram venom into this movie? it's like they pre-supposed that this was going to be the last one, even though that doesn't seem to be what ANYONE (cept maybe kirsten) had planned.
ghei review by bamboogrove	May 5th, 2007 09:50:57 PM
This just in: nobody gives a shit about comic continuity, Kraven or why you wanted to see Peter go all Anakin. My audience loved the movie, applauded at the end, and I'm sure they'll buy the DVD, as will you, after you see it 3 more times at the theater this weekend. Give us all a break and quit bitching about a fucking comic book movie.
I'm cravin' for Kravin and no more Bat nipples by aboriginal	May 5th, 2007 09:59:05 PM
that would've been a worthy sequel and a story worthy of Peter to find what he really is as Kraven seeks to hunt and become him in an attempt to understand him. I can't help but think that Raimi's got a treatment somewhere that is just this. Don't let another one get Silverized please. One villain and one major plot that invloves Peter finding more about life, love, friends, enemies and all that. It felt like this was it and he wanted to pack it all in and get it over with - that's what sucked. It was rushed, mis-edited and ruined by all the darkness of it all. It retrospect the previous two were dark and gloomy and damn near suicidal, but that's Peter's life. He's the poster child for hard luck cases, with that one gem. I have no problem in seeing what drives the bad guy, but they need equal time then and three is too many. We saw that it worked so well in the previous two that it almost seems that Raimi worried that it was formulaic - so what?!? Another chapter, not a wrap up in the worst sense of trilogy wrap ups. I've been a heavy Spider-man fan since I was a kid and have a collection that seems a tad insane now, but it was something that I enjoyed. Seeing the newest movie was something I really looked forward too as it was like gettin' together with old friends again kinda stuff, but I was distracted by the mishandled structure of the whole thing. As I write this I've got Spidey 2 on USA in the background and I can still remember how great it was walking out of that one in the theater and what a homerun Raimi hit. The bar was set and it tripped him up.
this line from the review worries me. by HypeEndsHere	May 5th, 2007 10:08:49 PM
"What pisses me off the most about this film is that a ga-jillion people will be seeing it. This is what people think a comic book is like." -- it highlights the elitism present in the comic reader's mind. some sort of ownership. "this is what people think a comic book is like"... uh, why wouldn't they think Spidey 2 is what a comic book is like? i understand the general public cannot decide between something they like and something they don't, but really. are there not good comics and bad comics? did 300 show the public what a comic book is like?
ok, after reading a previous post article clip by aboriginal	May 5th, 2007 10:09:51 PM
I gotta correct myself and lay the blame right . . . Avi Arad's a dick and so is Ziskin - they're about the money and if Ziskin ever picked up a comic book it was to blow her nose in it. GIve the fans what they want? They haven't got a clue what we want. Raimi, you should've stuck to your guns and I'm sure you realized the train wreck you we're making well before it got to the editing room. Director's cut it the way you wanted it and save it for DVD release and tell Arad to shut his pie hole - oh yeah . . . he's off now fucking other Marvel projects. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
arad should have been casted as whistler by christpunchers2007	May 5th, 2007 10:12:15 PM
in blade 1, he should have been the one who got mulled by frost and the pack.
What would have made this movie 10 times better... by Raphman	May 5th, 2007 10:13:46 PM
If Bruce Campbell played every part in it. But I thought the movie was okay, not as good as the first, but better than the second(I hated the second).
So anything less than perfect is unacceptable anymore? by Outburst	May 5th, 2007 10:24:57 PM
Man, some of you people are spoiled. It's definitely my third favorite Spider-man movie, but to say the franchise needs a reboot a la Batman Begins is just childish. Was it as good as the first two? Not for me, no. But it wasn't crap. X-Men 3 was crap. This was just a different type of movie than the other two, plain and simple. It should have been called Peter Parker: Spider-man. It was more about Pete's problems and choices than Spidey's. Anyway, I hope ALL of the primarys are back for the next one. This was a story that needed to be told to move the characters along, and I can't fault Raimi for that. Granted, some of the execution was a little off, but I'm willing to forgive an average third film after spectacular first and second efforts.
Maybe it's a tie in to the new Julie Taymor musical by Gozu	May 5th, 2007 10:26:10 PM
Because there is a Julie Taymor musical. Of Spider Man. And Galactus is a cloud.
Get Over It by Roboteer	May 5th, 2007 10:31:16 PM
Yes, there're flaws in plot movement, some sloppiness with transition, but the characters are still true, and where movies HAVE to deliver, as entertainment, SM3 does big time. Where Sam has succeeded most is bringing Stan's poignancy to the screen. Of which, probably Spidey led that parade. He gets that right on target, builds this into a behemoth franchise, and now he's for shit? Where's the love, man? And the comics, don't get me started. It was Spider-Man #4 that I bought at the newstand when it was first published, where Sandman made his first appearence. So I've been around longer than you, sonny. Remember how Stan ended that classic? Fighting Sandy in a garage, Spidey sucked him up in a wet/dry vac. I kid you not. David Oreck to the rescue! I agree Marvel comics were heads above their competition in the Silver Age. But they were still comics. They still killed off characters and brought them back soon afterwards with some preposterous nonsense (see Jean Grey). Significant changes have to be made in the movies so it isn't laughed off the screen. Did Stan ever explain how Pete could cling to walls? No. Well, a spider does it, we assume so should he. Comics are what they are, and it ain't Shakespeare. (Despite a little Hamlet in Harry's arc.) This is far from perfect, but it still delivers in all the most important ways. I think a lot of folks just couldn't wait for Sam to stumble and hop off the bandwagon. Many pros felt a little guilty for liking 1&2, and like to cut the feet out from the comic book movie phenomenon. Well, just be glad there's something to be disappointed about. This is still heads above X3, probably both FF movies, SR, and PIRATES2. So, sorry it ruined your day, but personally I'd like to see it again. I do like your choice of villains in Kraven and Lizard. And I still have now a hopeless pipe dream of a LizBanks(Betty Brant/T.Grace(Parker) reset in 4, but that's never gonna happen. This is the movie they made, not the movie maybe we'd like to see made. So deal with it. It's good, not great. The one thing it ain't is some imagined insult to comicdom. Frankly it takes the comics to another level never imagined back in the day. Just be careful what you wish for, Sony's liable to replace Sam with some hack like Ratner or Story and then we can be really, really disappointed. Oh, and PS, Sam was right, Venom ain't all that cool.
I agree 100% with your review, Ambush by hadez	May 5th, 2007 10:35:05 PM
And I laughed at that image..until I realized it was what I saw in the film :(
spread the blame around by Napoleon Park	May 5th, 2007 11:02:21 PM
Big director plans a movie with Sandman to continue the plot lines begun in the first two installments. Then the major studio head asks him to add Gwen Stacy and V-Man. for a fricken gazillion dollars you do what you're told. But DON'T shoe horn the new elements into your pre-existing script and go "there, this will suck, that'll show them to mess with my artistic vision". You suck it up, kill your darlings and start over and write the movie the studio wants - and you do it good. Blame Arad, fine, but don't defend Joxer's brother, he messed up too. *** I'm not a jmajor screenwriter, just a small press comix guy, but if your collaborator says "lets do a story with this, this, this and this, then you sit down and work out a plausible way to combine those elements in one story, then you polish it. You don't just take some story you already had and force the new elements into it. This was where Raimi and his writing staff messed up. (Well, that and using non-Ditko characters in a Spider-Man movie, but that argument's getting stale.)
great review. by tile_mcgillus	May 5th, 2007 11:04:54 PM
These apologists are just trying desperately to clinge to the idea of the film. Sorry guys. This movie was fucking awful. Try as hard as you can to make excuses, you know its true.
Clinge, tile_mcgillus? What does that mean? by tonagan	May 5th, 2007 11:17:42 PM
I'm just kiddin' with ya.
BTW, did you guys saw Galactus' Cameo in this movie? by hadez	May 5th, 2007 11:25:31 PM
Oh, wait. That was Sandman "flying" trough the air. My bad.
Top 10 things that bother me about Spidey3: by future help	May 5th, 2007 11:39:24 PM
(inpo)1.missing Spider scences 2.Mary Jane no longer hot or talented 3.Harry's butler character. where did he come from and why hold back so long on the info? 4.too mant coincidences i.e. meteorite lands right next to PP and MJ...Brock is in same church as Venom/Parker 5.they somehow tarnished the Russian girl 6.poor edits and soundtrack 7.Ben killed by Sandman bit 8.too much crying 9.fuckin news reporters at the end 10.Harry's face scar and Venoms easy death AND NOW A FEW THINGS I ENJOYED: 1. Bruce Campbell ROCKED 2. some of the action was nice 3. errrr...i would love to have all the extra footage Sam did not use and re-edit my own cut.
Raimi getting a free pass? by Blanket-Man	May 5th, 2007 11:47:17 PM
Yeah, I've read Raimi's comments about basically being forced to use Venom and Gwen, but I don't buy it. Sam had just completed two of the 10 most successful films EVER: If he wanted, he could've told Arad and Zuskin "Ya know, I appreciate the suggestions, but FUCK OFF!" SM3 was HIS SHOW. He more than probably any director this side of The Beard had the standing to do what he wanted to with the Spidey franchise. Obviously, Raimi thought he could make a great movie with Venom and Gwen in it - that's HIS name on the Story By credit (along with his brother). If he so despised the character of Venom, he should've walked. I, by the way, enjoyed the movie, but it was the weakest of the three. I'd still love to see Raimi come back for number four to see if he can get back to the quality of 1 and 2, maybe with The Lizard as the main baddie.
I understand the pain by a rolling stone	May 5th, 2007 11:56:01 PM
I understand the pain that comes from seeing a comic book movie done wrong. Comics are our modern day mythology. They are NOT for kids anymore. Many are well-written, so there's no excuse for the movie adaptations to not follow suit. I think the Bug's disappointed that people with low opinions of comic books won't change their minds after seeing this movie. They'll excuse the coincidences and the lazy story-telling because it's based off of comic books. And yes. The use of Bernard was lazy. I enjoyed the movie for what it was. I'm in no rush to see it again, but I'll buy it. But to say it again, the use of the butler was lazy. I'm ok with Aunt May popping in just when Peter needs him most, I'm okay with Peter's 'bas-ass' walk and even dance--he's a nerd and that's how a nerd acts cool, since nerds don't understand cool. But left-field extra no-name Bernard makes everything right with 30 seconds of dialogue? And why are they all pronouncing it burr-nerd? Isn't it Burr-NARD? As in balls? Remember how low-budget and underrated kung-fu movies were? Then Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon came out and raised the bar. I don't think this movie's the train wreck everyone else thinks it is, but I wasn't blown away. It's no X3, but it's no X2 either.
the objective truth by pencil-man	May 6th, 2007 12:00:30 AM
watching the movie sux, remembering S-M 3 is OK, and X2 is not as good as X3. Fuck you jaded assholes. 'nuff said. (how come the reviews mention Bruce Campbell but not Stan Lee?)
aicn by maluquiro	May 6th, 2007 12:00:52 AM
is the only place where reading spiderman comics could qualify you for something...
jesus fucking christ by kahootz	May 6th, 2007 12:01:33 AM
It's obvious. The cast were contracted for three movies. They crammed stuff into one movie to satisfy their contracts. This is two complete movies edited and truncated to fit ONE movie. That sucks. However...this movie had lots of action and laughs and f/x. It was an enjoyable romp. It was the funniest of the three. It was a popcorn movie that didn't dwell on relationships. It focused on the goofiest and funnest aspects of comic books. And that is the operative words: comic books. Any reader of them will understand the suspension of disbelief that is required. Take that suspension of disbelief into this movie and you will walk away saying, "That was a lot of fun."
perfect review by wcoop893	May 6th, 2007 12:03:46 AM
its pretty much exaclt how i feel. i was embarrased for much of the film. it was sloppy and venom was forced and emo peter was completely retartred
Gee, you know what this site needs? by Zarles	May 6th, 2007 12:06:10 AM
Another Spider-Man 3 review.
Jesus doesn't like Spiderman by purplemonkeydw	May 6th, 2007 12:07:22 AM
Topher asked, and Topher received. Alas, Topher did not deliver.
yup by disfigurehead	May 6th, 2007 12:11:31 AM
I totally agree with the review. It sucked...
Just turn on your nite-lite and go to sleep, Bug. by Andy Travis	May 6th, 2007 12:11:42 AM
This movie is not the end of the fucking world. Also, Kraven's Last Hunt is vastly overrated (aside from the great art by Zeck).
I had a thought by Smashing	May 6th, 2007 12:23:24 AM
Given Venom's lack of screen time maybe they just wanted to introduce the idea of an alien to set carnage up?, I know its a long stretch but cinematically it would mean we have not really seen the symbiont in action, maybe why it was underused?, or it was the whole got away from him thing. Still I would rather bemoan a comic book movie for trying too hard than too little.
Venom deserves less than 10 minutes by antonphd	May 6th, 2007 12:43:42 AM
I'm glad it's done and over with. Thank God he didn't get a whole movie plot. What a fucking waste of time that would have been. The whole bullshit of the simbiote is almost as retarded as the clone peter parker. Just... total idiocy. Thanks for carrying the cross of venom and making us suffer as little as possible, Raimi. Can't wait for the movies to get back to the kick ass villians. Thanks for not walking and letting us get some douche like Bay to replace you. Now. Bring on the Lizard and let's talk about some cameos from other Marvel movies.
antonphd is right by christpunchers2007	May 6th, 2007 12:49:18 AM
venom or not (and no dont even talk about carnage), symbiote storylines should of had no place in any of raimi's movies, theyre simply not grounded in HIS version of spiderman's reality. That god awful symbiote theme by chris young is still stuck in my head....
FUCK KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT! by INWOsuxRED	May 6th, 2007 12:58:23 AM
That was some "dark" and gimmicky bullshit, and would not make a good Spider-Man film at all. Spider-Man should be fun, not a rejected Tales from the Crypt episode.
Soup montage by INWOsuxRED	May 6th, 2007 01:04:20 AM
The Soup showed a great compliation of clips the cast did to "hype" this film. All of them came off like they could care less about this or any other Spider-Man film. Raimi and the cast had all the leverage on this film, and to blame the finished product on studio meddling is just lame. Raimi started filming HIS script, when he could have either made a power play, or just walked off completely. I highly doubt there was a gun to his head to make this film. He makes it sound like he is a first time director who is finally getting his big break with Spider-Man 3, and he had to make all these comprimises so that he might have a real career in the future.
screw you haters... by Merlox	May 6th, 2007 01:30:53 AM
it wasn't THAT bad...it wasn't that GREAT either...but in no means was this film an utter disaster like every reviewer here seems to think...
Julie Taymor for "Spider-Man 4"! by Christopher3	May 6th, 2007 01:33:12 AM
It'll be scored to Beatles tunes, set in a Roman coliseum and star freaky puppets. Hey, at least she'll never compromise with the studio in terms of her artistic vision.
Spidey JAZZ HANDS!!!! by Merlox	May 6th, 2007 01:33:30 AM
seriously look at the cover to Secret Wars #8 and tell me that black suit doesn't bring out the inner beatnik...;)
EMO PETER PARKER = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by GibsonUSA Returns	May 6th, 2007 01:45:00 AM
Spiderman 2 >>>>>>>> Spiderman 3
Just saw it... by fluffybunnywhiskers	May 6th, 2007 01:51:27 AM
Loved it a lot, but I'm not a whiny bitchy fanboy and don't read comics and say stupid shit like "har har Mary Jane should die, I'm badass." Wanting MJ to die doesn't make you badass, my friends, it makes you assholes. If you're proud of that fact, hooray, good for you... but I hope you die. Anyway, loved the movie a lot.
It's just stylish to hate on Spidey3 by omarthesnake	May 6th, 2007 02:20:33 AM
that's the reason for this dogpiling, from people here and from critics. Because the movie wasn't that bad. It was eeeeeasily the best "third movie in a superhero franchise" ever. The coincidences? You have read the comic books, right? Get off your goddamned high horse and acknowledge that, in a world where everybody is everybody else's cousin/secret love child/ parent-figure-slayer/ sibling/etc, the fact that Sandman runs onto the military base at the wrong moment just ain't that big a deal. Yes, the movie could have been trimmed a half hour, but so could every movie out there. As for Peter's life going down the crapper, again, you've read the comics, right? When is he ever happy for more than half an issue? sheesh. Whiney crybabies, bitching that they didn't make the movie you had scripted in your fanfic.
Thoughts on VENOM: THE HORROR ANGLE!!! by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 6th, 2007 02:38:42 AM
Man, just writing this will probably get me tons of hate mail and death threats (cuz damn, you've gotta love the harsh, harsh world of the AICN talkbacks), but I'm actually a Venom fan. It's only my personal opinion, and I certainly won't make any hating comments about Raimi's choices to handle the character the way he did, apart from honestly being really disappointed. I know Spider-man is essentially a nice, family-oriented PG-13 affair, but damn.... I can't help but wonder what would happen if Sam Raimi actually liked Venom and used the horror angle instead of the cheesy angle. ONLY FOOD FOR THOUGHT: My very favorite (and really only cool, in my opinion) scene regarding the symbiote in this film was that brilliant scene in Peter's apartment when we see the creature's shadow on the wall, lurching towards him. What a brilliant, classic horror moment. Sam Raimi knows horror. He shot his first film not even 15 minutes away from where I sit typing this right now, and his style of horror has become modern classic. The tentacle scene from Spider-man 2 is a perfect example. Super, hyper-stylized, visually kinetic, aggressive and hard-as-nails to watch. It seems to me that the potentially horrifying aspects of Venom would have made a HELL of a great film. In the comics, Venom pretty much eats people, drinks blood and laughs about it. This thing is a monstrosity on a rampage, a killing machine. I think that contrast in Spider-man is absolutely fascinating!!!!! On one side, the bright-colored-suit-wearing good guy with wisecracking jokes and positive attitude versus this all-black, giant, razor-sharp teeth killing machine who eats people and is clinically insane, driven on revenge. Spider-man's spider-sense was never even used in this film, but if it was, it would have been amazing to see how the suit reacted with it, and learned from him.... then bestowing those powers to Eddie Brock. We never get to see the suit learn to shoot webbings or learn how he moves and adapts. When Eddie Brock gets the suit, he automatically knows how to do all these things, even shoots black "webbing" from the tops of his hands, but we're never given a chance to understand why... or how this twisted, fucking symbiote works. John Jameson just came back from a mission to Mars, what a perfect segue into this alien costume... what a perfect chance to bring it back to earth and systematically find its way to Peter through a Jameson & Mary Jane conflict. It's still only my opinion that a REAL Venom movie could have been way past badass and into the areas of drinking fiery hot molten lead and shitting hammers. One of the scariest aspects of the Venom character was his knowledge about Spider-man's secret identity and how he preyed on Aunt May, Mary Jane and everyone else in Peter's life. Damn, ALL these things are WONDERFUL elements of a potentially terrifying horror film!!! It's like Cape Fear!!! He knows who Peter is, and he's STALKING HIM like a hunter. I know a lot of people always hate on the "WE" concept of Venom; a lot of folks say it's completely retarted... but it's EXACTLY what the writers did with Doc Ock in part 2. It was brilliant horror. One of the most interesting dynamics of that film was Doc Ock's weird, insane relationship with those crazy arms. The voices in his head, the control, the lack of control, the constant battle to overcome their influence. Damn guys... THIS is the foundation that Venom is completely built on. A man being slowly driven insane by a disgusting, carnivorous, symbiotic alien?? That sounds absolutely fucking awesome to me. Right out of a scene from John Carpenter's "THE THING!" Unfortunately, I know these things would have never happened, and this movie would have never been made. The closest I'll ever get was what I just saw today, and that wasn't quite what I had in mind when I pictured a Venom film in my head. But just for the record, I really do believe that the horror angle on Venom would be SO very interesting, and Sam "EVIL DEAD" Raimi would have DEFINITELY been a man I would have trusted it to.
Heckuva job, Avi ... by falawful-314	May 6th, 2007 02:48:29 AM
First thing I want to say is, ANYONE out there who thinks Raimi would have had the final say about whether Venom and Stacey were in the film or not has his head so far up his own ass it must have popped back out his own mouth again. Oh yeah, the Studio Execs (famous for their deference to directors) are going to give Raimi carte blanche to call the shots on THE MOST EXPENSIVE FILM EVER and their #1 franchise. No way. Instead, Avi walks in to sell the suits on the Black Suit, and what's his pitch? Everybody now! "Just read the AICN Talkback boards ... the kids LOVE Venom! They want to see Venom!" Personally, I think Raimi responded with something of a cinematic "fuck you." Yeah, Spider-Man was his baby. Yeah, he managed to pull off not only the most financially successful comic book franchise, but the most CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED comic book franchise ever, and they respond by strong-arming him with the ONE character he specifically said he didn't want to use. So instead we get fragments of a GREAT film (the one with Peter/MJ/Harry and the Sandman as the McGuffin) sprinkled into one haphazard film that Raimi phoned in. I think it's pretty obvious that Raimi had his storyline laid out and only reluctantly shoe-horned in the Venom storyline. Think about it - Harry chasing after Peter because he thinks he killed his father ... and Peter chasing after Sandman because (ding! ding! ding!) he thinks he killed his uncle. Revenge vs. Justice. And yes, I think the Sandman's relationship to his daughter would have received WAAAAAAY more attention. It's Thomas Haden Church, for Christ's sake! He was hot after Sideways ... you think he'd have lept into a role that gave him (i.e., the REAL him) about five-minutes of screen time and three sentences of dialogue? I bet he was told he'd have a role as meaty as Doc Ock or Green Goblin ... and instead he got fucked. The movie picks up steam in ALL the scenes relevant to those core characters. Harry comes alive when he's plotting to ruin Peter's life - that scene in the cafe where Harry rubs MJ's betrayal in his face ... that rocks. The first battle scene between Spidey and Sandman is one of the best battle scenes in ALL the films. (Funny how that scene is in daylight and all the other fighting scenes are in the concealing dark of night ... hmmm, you think maybe those scenes were rushed in production as more of an after-thought?) And the reconciliation at the end could have really meant something if it wasn't so rushed. (And on a final note, the dancing sequence rocked - it showed what a nerd drunk on power would do and it worked like almost none of the other "black spidey" sequences in the film. If you want to know why they didn't give some demonstration of his new "powers," it's because no one in the audience would give a fuck that he can jump 30% higher or punch 40% stronger, or whatever the hell you expected. Without comic book exposition bubbles, it's hard to realize "super SUPER powers" on screen. And if your not a fanboy arguing over whether the Hulk or Thor is stronger, then you seriously DO NOT CARE. It's about what it does to Peter's character ... and yeah, dialogue and acting can be REALLY boring sometimes without CGI to get your juices flowing, but what are you going to do?)
Raimi should go make a comedy now by BenBraddock	May 6th, 2007 03:18:58 AM
Get it out of his system. Humour can work great in superhero films, and is often a welcome and much-needed element, but in moderation please! The first two films had their comedy "bum-notes", comic-relief scenes that played too long, the timing was off and they should have been cut way sooner. This one, #3, has a whole bunch - those of you who've seen it know EXACTLY which ones I mean. What was Raimi thinking? Why the need for loooooonnnngg scenes of Pete embarrassing himself (and us)? 10 seconds would have done, just the once. Not long minutes of seemingly never-ending, squirm-inducing, "WTF is this?!?!", "Did I just fall asleep and wake up in another film?" precious screen time. Raimi keeps doing it - did nobody close to him dare say anything? Like, "Hmm, that's not actually that funny, Sam, maybe we can just edit that bit?" Obviously not. Did we really need a 60 second hiatus in the (admittedly pretty unengaging) finale to have a lame "JJJ in need of a camera" joke (Hej, JJJ, there are like a hundred people behind you with SLRs - ask one of them instead of a little kid with a plastic toy camera)? I know, it's only a movie, but certainly it could be a LOT better if those shitty "funny" scenes were removed - they are, especially the "Bad-ass Pete" ones, the low-point of the entire series. Dunno if I'll even buy this on DVD - and I am a sicko completist. 'Nuff said. Until I think of some new stuff...
SPIDERMAN 1 & 2 DENIAL by sergio_lapel	May 6th, 2007 03:28:25 AM
Why can't anyone admit that the first 2 Spidermans sucked????? The CG looked like shit in both of those films! The action scenes have had no impact because there's no weight to the scenes. It's all a big fucking video game. And both movies were BORING! Peter Parker's agnst in part 2 was repetitious. Aunt May was exhausting. The fight scenes, short and unexciting...which I guess is better than long and unexciting. (Woody Allen: "The food in that restaurant was terrible." "Yeah, and such small portions) And everyone's commenting on how goofy SPIDERMAN 3 is...well, does anyone remember the stupid the RAINDROPS KEEP FALLING ON MY HEAD montage from part 2? It was ridiculous. Everyone's criticizing Spiderman 3. The time to be critical was 5 years ago. Someone needs to make a Spiderman film with practical stunts and locations and less of this greenscreen CG shit.
Give 3 its due. by Jaykay	May 6th, 2007 03:49:33 AM
C'mon guys. Why is everyone hating on this movie? I've seen it twice already. And I'm not gonna even try to sit in denial like I did for SW Episode 1 about it's flaws. It's absolutely not the BEST movie that there's ever been that's for sure. And we pretty much understand that and take it for what it's worth. I'm sure that the professional critics have jabbed at the film enough times to make a small impression on the next (if there will be one) for the lot of us. But I think that the movie was headed in the right direction. If the crew hadn't been so rushed for the movie to finish up then I'm sure we would have been able to see a second half that was as decent as the first half. Yes. It was a messy ending. Yes, people cried. But c'mon! Don't know about you, but I think that this movie was jotted with some of the most powerful scenes in all three of the Spideys. No one has mentioned this yet, but don't tell me you didn't hear those heartwrenching gasps in the theatre when Peter smacked MJ in the club. Don't tell me that you didn't feel for the guy when she told him it was over. Don't tell me that you didn't get off just a little seeing him struggle with taking the suit off in the belltower (boong...). I don't know what the standard is for a perfect film nowadays, but I know that we are far from making perfect comic books. And tell me, since I am unknowing, what your idea of great CG is... I saw glimpses of absolute greatness in the second half just as much as the first half, and for that, it doesn't suck. It's good. Not great. But good.
Yes, by RadWon	May 6th, 2007 04:39:23 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself. As told by a true Spidey fan.
Sorry, by RadWon	May 6th, 2007 04:43:14 AM
I was referring to the review. 'Couldn't have said it better myself'. I'm not SW:EP1-3 disappointed but I'm still disappointed.
Thanks Ambush Bug by BannedOnTheRun	May 6th, 2007 05:14:55 AM
It's always refreshing when someone who can actually write pops up on the site. Salient points, too: The POWER...I think I'll...dance.
Peter Jackson for JLA! by UltimaRex	May 6th, 2007 06:46:42 AM
And no dancing!
matter of taste by foree forehead	May 6th, 2007 07:08:13 AM
ambush bug reveals he's always had spider-man comics in his (ahem) 'pull' since he started reading but i find this to be impossible for if anyone over the age of 8 had read the clone saga they would never read a spidey comic again! so maybe he started reading after that pile of shit?
Spiderman 3.1 by GERALD THE DALEK	May 6th, 2007 07:11:42 AM
We are currently in the process of creating Spiderman 3.1, which despite the general aceness of the original wll most definitely be an improvement. Until the project is complete here are some exclusive behind-the-scenes making of vids. Raimi needed $300 million. We needed a tenner and a few beers. 'Nuff said. Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hDTWNtJ07z4 Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Jl2gI937mxU www.myspace.com/drzonino Z
spiderman 3 waste of my time and money by crazykrug72	May 6th, 2007 07:59:51 AM
three's always suck why is everybody shocked this movie sucks
I wonder by photoginit	May 6th, 2007 08:50:18 AM
I thought I had read somewhere that the original cut of this film was longer and Raimi had to cut it down to get it under 2 1/2 hours. There are parts of this movie that seem disjointed. There def. should been more of Peter in the black suit beating criminals almost to death. I think that would have help explained the darkness more. I am sorta mixed. There were things I liked, the action set pieces, how much peter loves being Spiderman now, Harry showing up in the final fight but there are things like, sloppy cgi-it was like watching matrix reloaded there real spidey theres fake spidey it was just sloppy, venom should have been created in the movie but not used except for the final shot-they could have done something really cool with some woman getting saved and thinkin it was Spidey but it turns out to be Venom and then she screams and end movie a perfect set up for the next, at times Dunst was great but sometimes it was like she didn't want to be there. Spiderman 2 is one of my fav. comic films they got so many things right(and the 2.1 version was even better hopefully we will get a 3.1 or directors cut) and they just crammed to many things in this one. I don't totally blame Raimi. I just don't understand after making 2 great movies that the producers would mess around with this franchise by forcing him to use a character he didn't want. But it is Hollywood after all.
Tobey Maguire as Captain Kirk! by Ingeld	May 6th, 2007 09:22:56 AM
He can't get into a fight without all of his clothes always getting ripped or shredded.
Anyone notice? by ihuntrobots	May 6th, 2007 09:50:30 AM
Hi. Few things I loved. The (fake) break-up at the park, Harry, and Spidey sitting on top of a building getting sand out of his suit. Things I didn't like? Well, same things as most everyone else. I did like the jazz club dance scene, but before that just looked like a blooper/gag reel to me. Also, the Sandman and Venom team up was unconvincing. Why would Sandman do that? I realize Spider-man tried to kill him, but it seems to me that Sandman would have steered clear of Spider-man after that rather than seek him out...and injure/kill a bunch of police in the process... Anyway,there are two things I think I noticed..just looking for some confirmation. Was the bank Sandman robbed the same bank from Spider-man 2? And wasn't the same bank teller (the one that denied Aunt May's loan) in the movie? I swore I saw him. Also, was Flash at Harry's funeral? Swear I saw him aswell. Thanks!
Am I missing a Harry review somewhere? by INWOsuxRED	May 6th, 2007 10:50:02 AM
I want to know what he ate for breakfast before he saw the film!
Negative reviewers by teethgnasher	May 6th, 2007 11:05:42 AM
" The FIRST time I paid to see the movie, I didn't like it." " The SECOND time I paid to see the movie, I still didn't like it. " The THIRD time I paid to see the movie, I didn't like again." Someone at Sony is laughing at you fools.
ZombieSolutions... woah woah by Jonny_Dr_Thunder	May 6th, 2007 11:08:21 AM
Hey there man, did we see the same film? I think maybe you saw something completely different, where "super fucking cool, wildly entertaining, funny, touching, and asskickingly cool" stuff happened "from start to finish." I saw a bunch of needless crying, hard-to-understand editing, lame phone tag and probably not more than 25 or 30 minutes of actual action. That's cool, though, to have your opinion, I support you. But where does all the aggression and anger come from, anyway? Why do you come to a geek Web site where geeks talk about geek stuff and blatantly name call and spread hate & aggression? Middle Age Virgins? Apparently fat people are the only kind of people that read comics now? Apparently movie and comic fans eat large sandwiches, drool on themselves, have acne, can't afford clothes and can't put words together? Dude, this is a talkback on a geek Web site. You coming here and posting that kind of slander and aggression makes you even worse. I love your writing skill & impressions of the film and I really enjoyed your perspectives on a ton of great points... for example, WILL the opinion change when the DVD comes out? The King Kong comparison was pretty fascinating, and it was really interesting to see someone give it praise for "bursting" with good stuff. That's definitely something I'd seen as a burden, but maybe there's some merit to it? Not really enough to make me change my opinion, but really solid points. Maybe just hold off on all the lame name-calling next time and write something really cool and thoughtful? Just my opinion, man, take care.
ihuntrobots by INWOsuxRED	May 6th, 2007 11:11:22 AM
Joel McHale of the Soup is not listed in the imdb for Spider-Man 3, and imdb knows everything.
Spot-on review, Ambush Bug by bottleimp	May 6th, 2007 11:26:47 AM
What a disappointment this film is, especially considering how good Spidey 2 was. Maybe some of that rumored $300 million budget would have been better spent on script rewrites than sub-par CGI. Too many underdeveloped characters, too much time spent on song-and-dance routines, and not enough time spent on actually SHOWING Peter becoming stronger and darker. An entire film could have been made focusing on the alien suit/Venom storyline alone-- by just tacking the character onto this movie, an intriguing concept is reduced to a mildly baffling cameo. Was this movie only 2 and a half hours long? It felt like I was sitting there for at least four hours. Raimi really Shumacher-ed himself with this dud.
Alternate Ending by TissueConscience	May 6th, 2007 12:10:24 PM
Maybe there was an alternate ending and it will be on the DVD, but just an alternate ending wouldn't change the entire movie. But if this is the last of the series I'd hate to have it end the way it did.
Spidey 3 Was a Dancing Snoozer by princess Zombielicious	May 6th, 2007 12:12:42 PM
Ambush bug, you are so dreamy. Love your writing! You're awesome! I look forward to reading your work every week. I could agree more!
Harry is taking the wait and see approach by AlwaysThere	May 6th, 2007 12:26:52 PM
He's currently deciding if he should upload a rave review or a dissection of this movie.
Regarding the GC by Smashing	May 6th, 2007 12:28:01 PM
I set my TV picture up through the colour/contrast/brightness section of the Return of the Sith DVD, my picture has never looked better and I watched Spiderman 2 and the CG looked way cooler with the Lucasfilm settings.
The Spidey Twist ? by ludmir88	May 6th, 2007 12:37:30 PM
The film was nearly to become a campy batman of the 70's just for the dance sequences. But i liked the movie after all. Too much crying!!!. Some people had wrote in this site a better script or, i have to say, better ideas for a diferent spiderman 3. I'm sure that Raimi had all the story figured out with sandman and the new goblin as villains but Avi Arad speak and everything change. Sandman story wasted, Eddie Brock wasted (Venom belong to spiderman 4), Gwen Stacy wasted. Well despite all this i liked it. We need a time machine people. And Iron Man, is he Iron Man or Plastic Man or Kevlar Man. The video disappointed me
Harry's review is curiously absent. Maybe... by BiggieKaiju	May 6th, 2007 12:41:39 PM
... he's still writing it. After all, it's not a Harry review unless we know the exact size, shape, and consistency of the bowel movement he had the morning he saw the flick. Damn, that guy can ramble like nobody's business. But since "Spider-Man 3" is (arguably) THE geek movie for 2007, his lack of comment is puzzling. Post it before you put those quesadillas in the oven, you tubby bastard!
Spiderman no m(ore)ask!!? by ludmir88	May 6th, 2007 12:51:20 PM
Does Iron Man will have his helmet on all the time or he will take it off for crying or for a drink?
Cooking Scene by runfoodrun	May 6th, 2007 01:13:33 PM
Ok, this is the scene that threw me off, I liked the Peter dance scene, etc, but CU of omlets being made? I get that it was meant to show the relationship between HArry and MJ, but wouldn't the play he wrote for her have said that without eggs and the twist?
Spidey on Disco Floor < nipples on Batusi by Napoleon Park	May 6th, 2007 01:25:44 PM
Not a fan of sleazy and unfunny gossip monger Perez Hilton but I got a LOL from this line: "Spider-Man 3 made $59,000,000.00 it's opening day and Kristin Dunst probably thinks it's all because of her".
at 148 million buckaroos opening weekend by kikuchiyoboy	May 6th, 2007 01:48:42 PM
This will hardly be the last we see of the webbed one.
Yeah, i think its safe to say we will get a part 4 now! by jojo-pimp	May 6th, 2007 02:22:09 PM
148 million in the US ALONE this weekend? the film has already made over a 100 million $ profit when you figure in foreign markets.....its a safe bet that even if tobey maguire asked for 25 or 30 mill for a part 4, he will definately get it. Maybe theres some hope we will get carnage and the lizard and a better story
I'M THE SPIDER-MAN, BITCH by zombieslayer	May 6th, 2007 02:32:01 PM
...was yelled from a couple rows behind me when he smacked MJ at the club. Also, when she kissed Harry, I yelled "Bitch!" as, simutaneously, 2 others yelled slut and whore.
I gotta agree with ZombieSolutions... by TheAllSeeingEye	May 6th, 2007 02:39:41 PM
I thought the movie was fucking brilliant, and I'm an avid collector of the comic. I'm not saying that it's perfect, i'd say S2 has, so far, been the best version. But...i will say this Spider-Man 3 has quite possibly the most beautiful origin scene for any comic book hero or villain. That scene with Sandman is amazing. Absolutely fan-fuckin-tastic. To whine and bitch about trivial things while not giving those 5 minutes of screentime their due is disgraceful. Thomas Hayden-Church plays the role beautifully. What this bullshit about making you like the guy and having a go because they mention his sick daughter? That's the drive for the character and, for once, it's a human emotion that makes him do the things he does. I loved they line "I'm not a bad man, I've just had bad luck". I also loved the conclusion of the Harry/Peter conflict. I absolutely adored the scene where the butler who has always kept his mouth shut, acts more like a father to Harry than his own ever did and tells him the truth. I actually got choked up at that scene. It closed the whole, "revenge" backstory nicely and, while it was very cliche, I just loved to see Harry come save his old pal. It kinda reminded me of the comic where Harry goes back to save Peter after having succesfully lured him to his mansion to kill him. That's one of my favourite moments in comics, and while not a scene for scene replay, i can tell the whole thing was written and shot with that issue in mind. Overall, I can't see the problem with the movie. Yes, Venom sucks balls, but it was better handled than I gave him credit and at least we don't have to worry about that shitpot character appearing in the future.
JUST POSTED UNDER MORIARTY'S.... by DECKERS	May 6th, 2007 02:44:13 PM

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