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First by Bombadils_Bane10	May 2nd, 2007 04:16:52 PM
First??
first? by oisin5199	May 2nd, 2007 04:17:53 PM
um, yeah.
d'oh! by oisin5199	May 2nd, 2007 04:21:18 PM
almost had it. Anyway, the reveal at the end of this issue was freakin' fantastic. It took me a second to figure it out, but damn! Didn't see it coming. I'm not spoiling it. This is continuing to be a great series. The letters say at the end that the success of the comic so far has prompted Joss to pull back from his 20-30 issue statement, and say it's pretty much open ended and will probably go way past that. Bring it on!
so where does one download it then... by dj_bollocks	May 2nd, 2007 04:24:58 PM
good news about angel though...
Star Trek by Jinxo	May 2nd, 2007 04:27:33 PM
To be fair, I believe the new Trek book made the decision to go as "Season 4" well in advance of the Buffy book coming out. That was in fact the whole point of starting the new Trek book, to fill in the missing years on the original Trek's mission.
Star Trek by Jinxo	May 2nd, 2007 04:27:36 PM
To be fair, I believe the new Trek book made the decision to go as "Season 4" well in advance of the Buffy book coming out. That was in fact the whole point of starting the new Trek book, to fill in the missing years on the original Trek's mission.
Dark Willow Dark Schmillow... by performingmonkey	May 2nd, 2007 04:27:58 PM

WHERE'S THE TOM POSTON TB?!?!? by chrth	May 2nd, 2007 04:37:09 PM
Although in thinking about it, after your abortion of a Jerry Orbach RIP Talkback, maybe you shouldn't post one. Where's Father Geek when we need him?
it was a great week for comics by BigDogg	May 2nd, 2007 04:39:58 PM
So far I'm through 52, Buffy, Marvel Zombies/Army of Darkness, Shazam: The Monster Society of Evil, and Runaways and haven't had a single book yet not be excellent. I still have many more books to go though.
Angel Season 6 by chavee	May 2nd, 2007 05:07:32 PM
All I know is that they better bring back Wesley.
it's a great week for Joss comics by oisin5199	May 2nd, 2007 05:15:57 PM
We have 3 Joss-penned comics on the same day: Buffy, Runaways, Astonshing X-Men.
Spoiler (But a question) by mrtwig48	May 2nd, 2007 05:32:49 PM
The First (in S7) appeared as Warren...meaning he was dead. So either this Warren was brought back to life or they messed up the continuity.
SPOILER. Remember ... by Hercules	May 2nd, 2007 05:52:16 PM
The First could impersonate Buffy too. You don't have to BE dead, you just have to have died.
Herc's Read the new Buffy comic!! by Lando Griffin	May 2nd, 2007 06:04:02 PM

i also noticed the pic of joss by Charlie Murphy	May 2nd, 2007 06:53:35 PM
but wasn't sure if it was actually supposed to be him.
oh yeah, a variant cover--- by Charlie Murphy	May 2nd, 2007 06:55:18 PM
was there one? the inside cover says there is, but i didn't see one at the shop (but the title wasn't even on the shelf when i bought it, so i may have missed it)
Comics by The Funketeer	May 2nd, 2007 07:14:01 PM
It's bad enough we've got the @$$holes reviewing comics, now we get Herc too.
I bought the variant cover by mrtwig48	May 2nd, 2007 08:06:25 PM
It was a jigsaw puzzle.
I bought the variant cover by mrtwig48	May 2nd, 2007 08:06:25 PM
It was a jigsaw puzzle.
Oooh, Herc.... RE: Kennedy by ArcherNX01	May 2nd, 2007 09:30:12 PM
I'm trying to avoid spoilage here, but, could that instance you just posted here also co-mingle with the OTHER thing Willow was talking about at the bottom of pg. 17. (i.e.: "Only lasted a month") Hmm, you got me thinkin', Kimosabe
Oh My God! by Nojas	May 2nd, 2007 09:38:01 PM
Why are there still talk backs about a show that went off the air almost 4 years ago. Let it go!
yeah didn't this show end, like 4 years ago? by RokurGepta	May 2nd, 2007 09:51:34 PM
shux, while we're at it, why don't we have some Dallas or Cheers talkbacks....
Bleh on Buffy by Bass Ackwards	May 2nd, 2007 10:44:05 PM
Loved the show at first but it really lost my interest those last few seasons. Besides, that show had a full 7 seasons already, if Joss wants to revisit the Buffy-verse AND his comic writing he ought to get back to Fray, I'd love to read more of that.
Jesus by KneelBeforeZod	May 2nd, 2007 10:53:22 PM
Let. It. Go.
Does anyone remember..... by RokurGepta	May 2nd, 2007 11:06:51 PM
The cardboard standup for the Buffy movie that inspired the series? The original Buffy was way hotter than SMG.
Insult to comic books in general by ZeroCorpse	May 2nd, 2007 11:23:31 PM
Whedon's work is so incredibly juvenile. . . I just do not get the appeal, but to each their own. Some people like manga and anime, too, and those are pretty sad, too.
hate to sound too much like a geekwarrior by oisin5199	May 3rd, 2007 12:11:46 AM
but Chuck Austen dreams at night wishing he could erase the CRAP he did on X-Men and be half as good as what Joss has done with them. Same with Liefeld, though maybe Gravy Leg was being sarcastic. I just don't understand idiots who say 'let it go' or 'this show is old.' As if those are logical arguments just because you don't like the property. You could say that about ANY franchise. And let's see who else is working on Buffy. Hmm, Brian K. Vaughan - oh yeah, he must be juvenile because he writes about teenagers (but then there's that pesky Y the Last Man and Pride of Lions, among other things. Not so much with the juvenile there.) I guess the fact that this book is selling out (in the good way), is getting good reviews and each issue does better than the last must bother some people. Or the fact that most people in the biz have praised Joss' recent comic work must really annoy you guys.
Whoa you got to BUY the variant from the SHOP? by CarmillaVonDoom	May 3rd, 2007 12:24:54 AM
Lucky! Where I'm at, only two major stores exist, same guy owns both. He hoards ALL variants...seriously. Won't even entertain selling most of the good ones in the shop, they get slabbed and go on Ebay. Grrr. BUT...Season 8 so far is the tits...can't wait for ANGEL SEASON SIX!!!!! :^)
Fray by Boondock Devil	May 3rd, 2007 12:29:41 AM
I was just thinking that now that Joss isn't doing that Wonder Woman movie now (I still think that's a blessing in disguise) why doesn't he get a decent budget and make a movie based off Fray? Or have movies like Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet kind of scared away studios from making any more "women kicking ass in the future" films?
what's going on with Fray? by RokurGepta	May 3rd, 2007 12:34:19 AM
is it happening, did it happen already and I missed it? Was it canceled before it ever began? tell me all of if, now now now, please please please
RokurGepta by Boondock Devil	May 3rd, 2007 12:42:21 AM
Fray was a mini-series that came out through Dark Horse comics a few years ago. Written by Joss Whedon about a future Slayer named Meleka Fray. Check around for a tpb if you can find it... well worth the read.
spoiler...RE: Amy's boyfriend by blackhole4140	May 3rd, 2007 01:54:57 AM
Warren was incinerated after he was flayed, if memory serves correct. So assuming Amy brought him back to life cause of the mystical death loophole, why would he still be missing his skin?
I remember reading on some website by RokurGepta	May 3rd, 2007 02:56:20 AM
maybe even the official CW website that this fall Fray would be airing on television? Is my memory failing me?
No Fray tv series by Boondock Devil	May 3rd, 2007 03:30:02 AM
That would be one very expensive show...
Speaking of Fray by Archangel7883	May 3rd, 2007 04:39:07 AM
Fray makes an appearance (of the vaguest sort) in this comic. Look at what's being read in the strip poker scene with Andrew.
Buffy vs. Caprica-Six by Boomers_Lips	May 3rd, 2007 05:03:12 AM
who wins in a fight? Buffy have Slayer strength which and Six has Cylon strength!
OKAY, SO HOW COME FRANK COTTON WANTS TO KILL WILLOW??? by Jackson Healy	May 3rd, 2007 06:01:31 AM
Loved Willow's voice, though! "I always tell that wrong." That's so Willow.
I want to like this comic, but there's something wrong by tonagan	May 3rd, 2007 07:24:36 AM
with it. It might be the whole "it's a comic, so anything goes" aspect of it (just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD). I think the show's budget limitations might have made them work harder on characterization, maybe. Now, since everyone's familiar with the characters, they can just coast? I don't know. And is it necessary to have every character that ever appeared in the series also appear in the book? And (possible spoiler-related topic ahead), I thought the whole Warren plot was wrapped up kind of nicely in the season 7 ep when Willow "became" Warren. Who knows? It's been a couple of years, maybe I've just grown out of it (and comics). I'll still hope for the best. (Sorry, I'm cranky.)
Did Herc "see" BUFFY 8.3 or "read" it? by SpyGuy	May 3rd, 2007 08:13:06 AM
Me, I read the thing because it's a COMIC BOOK, not a TV show. Pretty good issue, despite some jarring scene transitions (the Giles scene in particular) and a surprise return by skin-free Warren. I get the feeling, though, that he's not the Big Bad for this "season"...or at least I hope he isn't...
BUFFY IS SO FIVE YEARS AGO. by Pound Sand	May 3rd, 2007 10:41:02 AM

STAR TREK was so 40 Years Ago!! by darthuser	May 3rd, 2007 12:18:57 PM
If people don't stop talking about old stuff I'm going to pee myself again! Stop it stop it stop it! Too late. Mom!
Buffy vs Caprica Six (Six would win). by Shan	May 3rd, 2007 12:57:15 PM
Caprica Six would win. Because no matter how many times you kill her, she would be back again and again and again until she won. Buffy has also come back from the dead but it seems to be a much longer, more complicated process. Also Six could bring all her friends with her, namely Six, Six, Six, Six, Six and ... She (well a Six) also gave Starbuck quite a beating, so she sure can fight.
re: Buffy vs Caprica Six (Six would win). by Boomers_Lips	May 3rd, 2007 01:37:24 PM
I think you're right, its like Sharon once said: "Death becomes a learning process." Six could just not do what led to her death the first time and kick Buffy's bum when she comes back, over and over.
PUH-LEEZ Buffy would EFF Six right the EFF up by Psynapse	May 3rd, 2007 02:04:00 PM
Though the Sixes versus the Slayer army would be hot. (Sixes would lose though, the Slayers would find a way to destroy the resurrection ship)
Eh... by Foxxed	May 3rd, 2007 07:41:52 PM
I loved Buffy, but this season 8 is really kind of blah. I'm not digging the storyline at all. I guess what I love about Buffy (the metaphors and each episode kind of having a theme) just gets lost or disappears in the comics.
It's missing the tiny little quite moments by kikuchiyoboy	May 3rd, 2007 08:29:52 PM
in between that gave the show character. But all in all, I'm enjoying this incarnation of good 'ol Buffy.
I agree...it's awful by BeatsMe	May 3rd, 2007 09:02:18 PM
Just kind of makes me glad they ended the show when they did. It's missing that everday-life-is-campy-hell metaphor that made the first couple of seasons so genius. It's called context Joss...find it again.
Okay, finally read it...SPOILERS!!!! by CatVutt	May 3rd, 2007 09:21:53 PM
Thank God for a.b.c.dcp. Anyway, I had pretty much figured it was Warren, so no real surprise there. The Ethan Rayne in the dream caught me by surprise, and it's becoming pretty obvious that Joss loves the character, as he was a big part of the Chaos Bleeds game as well. I disagree about the lack of a 'theme'. I think the title of the arc is telling, but I wanna read the last issue of the arc before commenting further. And you gotta love that the book looks like it was be ON SCHEDULE. If this thing was getting stretched out like Astonishing X-Men, it would be absolutely infuriating. Honestly, I read that latest issue too, and I had a hard time remembering what the hell was supposed to be going on. But I'm liking it so far, though gotta agree with Herc (and probably everybody else)...Andrew looks unrecognizable.
This Series Needs A New Artist by VinnyManowar	May 3rd, 2007 10:24:30 PM
Joss is doing a great job on this series and I was happy to read that he is stretching the series to around 50 issues. But the artist has to go go...quickly.
photoman by oisin5199	May 4th, 2007 12:25:39 AM
People must not get that you really love Buffy but you pretend to hate it and pretend to be an idiot who doesn't know Buffy has probably one of the most thriving fanbases of any genre property out there. Time to give up the charade and move on.
Haters and Trolls? KISS OUR COLLECTIVE ASSES by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 08:28:34 AM
If you're not into Buffy then piss off already. Why don't you go back to kvetching about Lost or something. Keep up the awesome, Herc!(*_^)
Gamorrean Guard?! by Zebtron A. Rama	May 4th, 2007 11:04:51 AM
Was that a Gamorrean Guard laying on the ground in the dream sequence? (joss loves his dream imagery) And if so why?
Whedon on a roll by Summertime_Killer	May 4th, 2007 10:44:26 PM
Hooray for the Whedon Hat-trick this week. Hasn't had this much going for him since Fall 2002.
comics... by bowtiehoon	May 4th, 2007 10:45:35 PM
man...read the first two issues. Nothing happened in the first issue and the second was kinda meh too...Are all comics like this? read for 5 minutes. wait a month. read for 5 minutes. wait a month...etc etc.. Ain't into comics so i don't know.

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