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Six Years... by TheRealMoriarty	May 2nd, 2007 04:29:35 AM
Wow. It's been a genuine pleasure to publish you guys for six years now, and I think AICN COMICS continues to be one of the things we can be justifiably proud of as a website. I want to thank every single @$$hole who has ever contributed, and congratulate you on the consistent quality of your work. It doesn't get said often enough, so I'll say it here. Oh... and first, bitches.
Sorry Mori by Horace Cox	May 2nd, 2007 04:31:48 AM
I would have held off in deference to such a distinguished gentleman as yourself. However, the world needed to be made aware that Niemla is, in fact, a douche.
3rd?... and TheRealMoriarty.... by Quintus_Arrius	May 2nd, 2007 04:34:47 AM
You bastard.
Basking in Jeff Parkerness by Boondock Devil	May 2nd, 2007 04:44:26 AM
The guy can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned.
Hot Damn Uh Moseys! by Dr.Zeus	May 2nd, 2007 05:17:55 AM
I WON!?!?!?!!! ........ummm but I never win anything??? Surely this must be some "Crisis on Infinite A$$holes" convergence of worlds! Are you sure it was me?....It could have been The other me from Earth 2. Or even worse, that A$$hole from Earth 3! :o Hey! If truly thou hath bestowed upon me a new A$$hole accolade, then I shalt covet thee like mine neighbor! :D -Dr.Zeus (Earth4Thor) ....hmm I hope I get a secret A$$hole decoder ring, and an Official A$$hole No-Prize, or heck, just a new A$$hole. heh
Hey Dan Grendell by Dr.Zeus	May 2nd, 2007 05:21:53 AM
If you liked Parker's Marvel stuff. Try and check out his "Interman" book. It has shades of Jonny Quest with lots of action, exotic locales, and secret government experiments thrown in.
old sat' morn', it ain't what it used to be... by Acne Scarface	May 2nd, 2007 07:00:03 AM
ever since they stamped network logos on programs, tv's gone further down the toilet. e/i=flames on the television.
Holy shit, a Hollywood writer, called FIRSTIES! by LordEnigma	May 2nd, 2007 07:17:59 AM
Dont see that everyday. Nevertheless, huzzah to the assholes, and continuing awesome comic discussion. Plus the pic is so true.
Walking Dead by Salamander	May 2nd, 2007 07:44:20 AM
I picked up one of the books a little while back when issue 32 was out and couldn't put it down. I will admit that the whinging in the comic can be a little tiresome but for lack of zombies i dont have an issue with. Yes zombies need to be in it but other stories need to be told too and setting up the other camp will hopefully lead to a mad max 2 type battle (i hope) with zombies in the mix. I love the comic and although the torture scene felt a little out of place or at least OTT but with no authorities seemingly around people will do crazy stuff. the only thing was it did go a little far and the fact that none of the governor's people outside of his little army knows anything to me is a little dumb. It does need more injection to the story line but for now i still enjoy the read and can't wait for the next issue.
Recommendation for dot.comics by chrth	May 2nd, 2007 07:51:49 AM
Looking for Group (LFGCOMIC.COM). They're doing it in twice-weekly page installments with 32 pages equalling a comic book (which last I heard they are planning to publish on dead trees). It's a WOW/D&D style comic, but it's clever and action-packed. Start from the beginning and you will be a Richard Convert. Highly recommended.
52 has been good, but World War 3 was terrible by ChorleyFM	May 2nd, 2007 08:03:45 AM
Why they couldn't have just extended the war over 2 issues of 52 instead of releasing the pointless and shoddy tie-ins is just an exercise in blatant commercialism. I like the Walking Dead, even with the melodrama aspect, but finally someone has admitted that Kirkman can't write dialogue, it is so heavy and hammy that it just brings you out of the story. It would be okay if it was stylistically meaty, like Mamet, or to a lesser extent Bendis, but it is just plain bad.
Horace Cox is wrong... by Squashua	May 2nd, 2007 08:09:49 AM
...I'm the douche! Just look at that picture!
Breakfast of the Gods by whoopdeedoo	May 2nd, 2007 08:53:28 AM
This is a truly incredible series. I've loved it from the beginning and seriously hope it continues on. I mean come on, the Sugar Smacks frog is a fucking gangsta! How cool is that!!!
All-Star Batgirl!!! by CarmillaVonDoom	May 2nd, 2007 10:19:33 AM
The Nightwing annual was a great read...nice mix of the comical and the poignant. Here's hoping that Barbara will be up and running (literally) this year. It is time to bring back BATGIRL!!! J.G. Jones doing the art on the new book has me almost too impatient. Very good column this week! As far as Breakfast of the Gods, how is it much different than Alan Moores usual schtick??
The Walking Dead by Bluejack	May 2nd, 2007 10:22:58 AM
Stories need a good balance of plot advancement and character development. Too much character development without the characters reacting to plot makes the characters boring. Too much plot without character development makes you not care about the characters. Kirkman has too much character development and not enough plot advancement. Not once has anyone asked WHY there are zombies or at least contemplate finding out so they could stop what is going on. That just seems logical to me that they would discuss it. So, yeah. I agree with the review, "the Walking Dead" has gone a little "Lost" on us.
Hyperion/Nighthawk, Walking Dead and more by SavageDragoner	May 2nd, 2007 10:23:47 AM
Wow, that review of Hyperion/Nighthawk was so right on, I wish to God you had written the story. I LOVE the direction Squadron Supreme has gone (although I wish they would get back to the ongoing monthly) and was looking forward to a story that would explain how Nighthawk came into the group. Anything, ANYTHING would have been better than this. I thought I was having deja vu with all the flashbacks covering the same incident over and over again. As for Walking Dead, I have to disagree. For me, this book still has the same edge-of-your-seat storytelling its always had. Of course, that could be because I wait for the trades on this one, so I get a huge chunk of story all at once. I loved the torture book, and can't wait to see where Kirkman is going next. I think a lot of respect also needs to be paid to the Luna Brothers for Girls. This was consistently one of the best comics out there through its entire run, good enough to have me buy the individual issues and then also go back and buy the trades. The art was gorgeous, the storyline a balanced blend of characterization and action, and, although it probably didn't provide all the answers the readers wanted, it was a masterpiece nonetheless.
Nightwing by Bluejack	May 2nd, 2007 10:27:23 AM
I wish I didn't have the whole run of Nightwing. Besides this annual, nightwing has sucked donkies. He just needs to fight crime and bang chicks. Enough with the angst already!
SavageDragoner by Bluejack	May 2nd, 2007 10:30:32 AM
I still really enjoy Kirkman's work. I'm not dropping "The Walking Dead" at this point. I just think he needs to move things along bit.
Black Panther the Fantastic Jerk by Zebtron A. Rama	May 2nd, 2007 10:30:57 AM
I've had enough of Dwayne McDuffie take on the Black Panther in the Fantastic Four. Everyone wants to cry when characters act out of sorts in Civil War but are praising things in F.F.? First he bullies Uatu with the Ultmate Nullifier (just to find a dead body mind you). Then puts the SILVER SURFER in an unbreakable headlock?! No. McDuffie needs to take some characterization lessons from Reginald Hudlin. The Panther is a diplomat, why queer the F.F.'s relations with Uatu? I hope Reed spanks him good when he returns.
about time someone said it by v1cious	May 2nd, 2007 10:54:15 AM
seriously, Kirkman needs to hear this. The Walking Dead is getting boring as hell. the whole "other survivors" plotline was a complete waste of time , and it accomplished nothing.
THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS CLONE SAGA DEBACLE!!! by Err	May 2nd, 2007 11:32:55 AM
Ugh...
Fuck first posters by ErnieAnderson	May 2nd, 2007 11:52:46 AM
Fuck them in their stupid asses. God dammit, Perfesser. Stop making me post in the TalkBacks.
I dunno, comicgeekoid... by Thalya	May 2nd, 2007 12:16:05 PM
JSA:C was kinda a weak story (though loads better than anything with Wonder Woman this week). The story was good, but somehow I don't think Bedard fully grasped Alan Scott. His characterization didn't feel right, like it wasn't all there. The best book for my money boiled down to this: "IS. THAT. A. GIANT. GREEN. FIST?" "It's why I've never had to raise my voice." More heart in its pinky finger than the rest of my pull list combined.
Are any of you @$$holes... by BizarroJerry	May 2nd, 2007 12:28:56 PM
reading G.I. Joe comics these days? There's so much 80s geekery around here, I would expect it. Some cool things are going on in the land of G.I. Joe, with new writers, artists and an upcoming storyline titled... World War III. Seriously. But it'll be cool. Anybody? Reviews have been popping up on newsarama, etc.
Zebtron: "I hope Reed spanks him good when he returns." by mbeemer	May 2nd, 2007 12:34:16 PM
... Totally removed from the point you were making, but Reed Richards doesn't have the moral authority to spank anybody after all he did during CW. Just sayin'.
Get over yourselves losers! by Borgnine JR	May 2nd, 2007 12:53:36 PM
Your 6 th anniversary is the biggest non-event the internet has ever seen. Chris Simms kicks your asses all day every day. Hang it up and go back to the stock room at Kohl's.
That's The Stock Room At Wal Mart, Dipshit! by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2007 12:59:41 PM
Or, as Dane Cook likes to call it, "The Wall."
Ooh a Troll!! How rare! by Psynapse	May 2nd, 2007 01:00:57 PM
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Oh and Prof. ? by Psynapse	May 2nd, 2007 01:09:27 PM
Fuck you ya fuckin fuck. (I hope this makes my position on swearing in comics abundantly clear) (*_^) After all, if a creative writing endeavor is deliberately censored to achieve a wider audience how is that any different from a movie?
Black Panther's headlock by Jinxo	May 2nd, 2007 01:27:31 PM
I willadmit that the weakest bit in the FF was the idea Panther could successfully use a headlock on Silver Surfer. I didn't buy the direct explanation but I stil did buy it. Why? Because of the setup for the fight. This wasn't the FF vs. The Silver Surfer out for blood. This was the FF vs. a Surfer who actually liked them and was only throwing down with them because that's his job. So he was trying to getthem to leave but not kill them. WHen Panther put his hold on Surfer I could picture Surfer thinking, "Okay, I'll humor him for a little bit, let him think he's accomplishing something before I swat him like a bug."
I liked Hyperiod Vs. Nighthawk by Homer Sexual	May 2nd, 2007 01:28:56 PM
Of course, I love pretty much everything about the Squadron Supreme the last couple years, but I found this to be an interesting (if, yes, overly expository)miniseries. I generally HATE to be "taught" anything in a comic, and am embarrassed to say I didn't even know Darfur existed before this mini. I found that I miraculously learned while being entertained, and it wasn't too preachy. Maybe just a little. I have also been, generally, a fan of 52, though I could have done without the redonkulous "origin" pages, and agree that some of the revamps (Martian Manhunter, in particular) have been atrocious. The WWIII stuff was definitely entertaining waste of time, with no real "there" there. Last month's Heroes for Hire, the first by Zeb Wells, was so poorly drawn and weakly written, that I was about to drop what was once (when it was a mini called Daughters of the Dragon) one of my absolute favorite comics. This issue, the art was better and the story much improved. Still, I used to find this a fresh book, and now it seems pretty average. Not bad, but not unique anymore. Also, I feel Zeb Wells has much less feel for the characters. Still gonna buy next month, but it's an issue-to-issue thing with me now. Finally, I am a big dork and I really enjoyed that Nightwing annual. It touched me.
Martian Manhunter by BizarroJerry	May 2nd, 2007 01:41:13 PM
The new MM series struck me as something being written by someone who doesn't even like the character. I can picture someone sitting in a conference room saying, that Martian Manhunter is boring. We have to make him more exciting!
Homer... by Ambush Bug	May 2nd, 2007 01:45:22 PM
Can you show the jury where the NIGHTWING ANNUAL touched you on this doll right here? I think Wells first issue with H4H was kind of weak, but I blame that on Wells having to fiinish a story that he didn't start. Now with this story with Moon Boy, I think Wells is going to have a chance to shine. I'm glad Wells has been given a fun book like this to play wiht. Gotta get back to the stock room now...
Coolest comic character makeover this year? by Psynapse	May 2nd, 2007 02:01:58 PM
MR. MIND bitches! That splash page near the end of 52 #51 was the shzz-nits yo!
Black Panther puts Uatu in a figure-four leglock.... by Zebtron A. Rama	May 2nd, 2007 02:24:35 PM
Hmmmm Jinxo...yer headlock explanation isn't bad. I'll buy it. I don't know if I'll go back for the rematch next issue though. ...and good point mbeemer. I, like Sue Richards, must be blinded by Reed's supremo honeymoon. (another strike against the current F.F. run) Get Walt Simonson off Hawkgirl and put him on the F.F.!!!!
Yeah, The Surfer Can Sort Of Increase His Strength... by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2007 02:29:51 PM
...at will. In the past, he's easily altered himself enough to slug it out with the Thing and the Hulk. This may be an instance, such as his first Hulk battle, where he allowed himself to be manhandled because he was too merciful to splatter his opponent. In the Hulk story, he was about to remove the gamma radiation from Bruce Banner but the Hulk just wouldn't stop slugging him in the face.
I dunno... by Ambush Bug	May 2nd, 2007 03:36:04 PM
I kind of liked the fact that a character with powers so miniscule compared to the Silver Surfer's was able to hold him back. I didn't attribute the Panther's success with the hold to the SIlver SUfer giving him some leeway. I thought it was cool because the Panther had such a knowledge of basic physics that he was able to use a move that uses the strength of the person against them no matter how strong you are. There are plenty of martial arts moves that uses an opponent's strengths against himself. I thought this was a nice way to show that even out of the throne room and the jungle, the Black Panther was still a formidable opponent.
Panther by Jinxo	May 2nd, 2007 04:35:12 PM
I wanted to buy that Panther could legitimately grapple the Surfer but... I just couldn't quite go there. If Don Knotts put Hulk Hogan in the same hold, I wouldn't expect it to work out so well for Don no matter what, unless Hulk was willfully holding back a bit. And given the scenario I truly don't think Surfer was giving it his all.
Hehehe by Jinxo	May 2nd, 2007 04:38:47 PM
Dang it. Now I have a picture in my head of Storm showing the Surfer that trick where women can stand with there head against a wall and pick up a chair but men can't. Surfer has his head against the wall, trying to pick up the chair, going, "I'll be darned. I have the power of the cosmos but... I really can't pick up this chair. I have been defeated by Ikea. Go figure."
Nice! by The Heathen	May 2nd, 2007 05:12:47 PM
I was one of the winners for the cover caption contest! Anything to help you @$$hole's. Congrats on the 6th year too, that's a nice accomplishment (I'm serious, it's called sincerity folks). It's also nice that Moriarty gives credit where it's due. Now, enough of the @$$ kisery! Vroom! Right on about Elk's Run man. Thanks for pointing to the article all those months ago saying that it would be collected. I ordered the a few copies of the first issue and was so impressed that I gave one to my LCS way back then and they started to carry it. Then, a few weeks ago they handed me the completed trade and I nearly wet my pants A) because I didn't know the trade was out and B) my LCS fucking rocks. Anyways, anybody who wants something different and bitches about mainstream affair, check out Elk's Run. Call me crazy, but I thought Kirkman has been 'bringin it' lately with the Walking Dead. I haven't read #37 yet, but does all it take for readers to get their panties in a bunch one issue of talking? Read a the first 3-5 issues of a Bendis 6 parter and get back to me. Oh, snap! Awww, just kidding Bendii, take it easy! Oh, and somebody mentioned Girls. I haven't read the last issue yet, but thank the maker that it is the last issue. That thing pandered around for so long and had no sense of urgency, chemistry or purpose for about 20 issues of it's 24 issue run. That said, I think there was a huge 'potential' there, but the ball was dropped. I seriously doubt that the final issue resolved everything and that it did it well, but I'll reserve final judgment for when I read it…
Shcleppy's been… by The Heathen	May 2nd, 2007 05:17:00 PM
GUGINO'D!!! Awesome work Squash.
'Schleppy' by The Heathen	May 2nd, 2007 05:18:17 PM
Spelled the filthy lil' things name wrong. May bad, Schlepp.
Yo Psynapse by Prof Challenger	May 2nd, 2007 06:30:05 PM
Just sos we're on the same page. Censorship means someone in power (usually guv'mint) comes in after the fact and changes a work of art or literature because of a perceived sense of indecency. For example: The famous fig leaf placed over Michealangelo's DAVID or more recently, The New York Times when they airbrushed the cigarette away on a cover photo of Pres. Franklin Roosevelt. All my caution there was mainly directed towards the artists involved, and it's not wrong for editor or publisher (in this case Josh Howard) to make suggestions for the contributors to consider, to sometimes just step back and consider whether the "fuck" is so incredibly essential to the work or might it have a wider audience if a different euphemism was used. Check out GALAXY QUEST sometime. You can clearly see when Tim Allen and Sigourney Weaver were facing those giant hammer thingees that Sigourney clearly yells "WHAT THE FUCK?! If you watch her mouth. Yet, somewhere in the editing process, it got overdubbed in as "WHAT THE HELL?!!" Sure, the original line was probably funny, but the dubbed is just as good and it helped make the movie PG-13 rather than R and that translated to a pretty big hit that summer. An R would've limited the viewership immensely and the movie itself is hugely enjoyable for pretty much any age. SASQUATCH is great. I suggest that it would sell younger without that one word.
Hey, Prof C... by BizarroJerry	May 2nd, 2007 10:13:25 PM
I hate to be "that guy" but the actual bit from Galaxy Quest was that she obviously says "Fuck that!" and it's dubbed "Screw that!" Just to clarify. What I find weird is, Bruce Almighty came out, was rated PG-13 and he said, "Back to you, fuckers!" As far as I can tell, the MPAA lets you get away with saying "fuck" one time and you can still get a PG-13. Unless they allow a noun and not a verb... dumbasses. In Bruce, the fact that it was essentially the only curse word, and was the worst one, made it a shock and extra funny. Obviously, Sigourney's line would've worked the same way. Maybe they just thought the flick would attract younger viewers?
Thanks for being "That Guy"... by Prof Challenger	May 2nd, 2007 10:33:12 PM
Cause not all of us geeks are SOOOOO anal-retentive that we remember every line of every movie VERBATIM!!!! :) The ratings principle, as I understand it, is that a movie CAN receive a PG-13 with no more than one use of "Fuck" so long as it's not used to describe a sex act. WhaHUH???? But, even that is not set in stone. If the movie itself is one that is overall geared towards a younger audience then even one instance is too much -- especially if there's heightened violence or action. That would likely be the thing in GALAXY QUEST which, if you watch the deleted stuff you'll see that the language in that entire movie was quite a bit rougher throughout originally. But all that was still to just reinforce the point that censorship, in general, for it to be "censorship" means that it is imposed by someone other than the creative artist(s) involved -- and usually after the work is finished. Language choice is a creative choice, but in the world of commercial art like a graphic novel, as with any other novel, the target consumer audience needs to be considered because if the artist alienates consumers then he kills his chances of having publisher invest in him in the future.
um.... by blackthought	May 2nd, 2007 11:00:38 PM
what he/she said.
I think in Christian Slater's "KUFFS"... by SleazyG.	May 2nd, 2007 11:23:48 PM
...there's a scene where his partner says "fuck" five times. They actually just bleep out all of 'em except for the final "Fuck you!" for comedic affect. I also believe (keep in mind I haven't seen the movie since 1991) that at one point Slater actually addresses the audience directly (his character does that a lot in the movie) and tells us that a PG-13 is allowed up to three uses of the word "fuck". I could be wrong, but since I haven't bought a copy of the movie yet I can't be sure.
I'm glad some other folks liked that NIGHTWING annual. by SleazyG.	May 2nd, 2007 11:25:18 PM
I thought it was pretty well done. That single annual, for example, contained more quality, heart, fun and DCU continuity than the entire MARTIAN MANHUNTER miniseries that ended last month. Blech.
Thalya, I'm glad somebody else "gets" BLUE BEETLE. by SleazyG.	May 2nd, 2007 11:28:41 PM
It's pretty much the best thing to come out of INFINITE CRISIS, along with maybe ALL-NEW ATOM. John Rogers is really doing a great job on BEETLE; I just wish more people noticed. I loved the scene you brought up too, and having Guy Gardner show up and actually kinda apologize for previously being a jerk while still coming off like Guy was handled really well. And I still find myself laughing at the whole "Forehead Of Justice" gag from a coupla months ago. SERIOUSLY, PEOPLE: BUY BLUE BEETLE ALREADY, DAMMIT!
AND BUY ASTRO CITY TOO!!! :^) by CarmillaVonDoom	May 3rd, 2007 12:31:18 AM
Top talkbacks are almost ALL comic related. Our time has come.
Heathen by Squashua	May 3rd, 2007 01:47:51 AM
Thanks for the props; been working on that thing for a couple weeks. I'm not sure which images you submitted in the contest, but I know which ones I liked and I voted.
Holy steamed fuck on a quivering fat chick ass-platter! by Psynapse	May 3rd, 2007 09:20:10 AM
So...yesterday it happened, I had my first actual Whedongasm. AXM, Buffy, and Runaways all hit on the same Wednesday. My pop-culture entertainment gland throbbed so long and so hard it is sorer than a Bangkok whore's quim on buck-a-bang Tuesday! I smirked, laughed, and was so goddamn entertained I needed a cigarette. Oh and Prof? I hear what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. Oh and censorship is defined as the act of censoring, period. Governmental or other parties of power are irrelevant to the definition, it is the act itself plain and simple. If the author DECIDES (for whatever his/her reason) to change something that's one thing. The moment the request/decision comes from someone OTHER than the author it IS censorship plain and simple.
Oh and MAD props Squash by Psynapse	May 3rd, 2007 09:54:46 AM
That image PWNZ.
I don't get Blue Beetle..and 52 SPOILER by Homer Sexual	May 3rd, 2007 02:19:11 PM
I bought six issues and it wasn't bad, just boring. So I had to drop it. I think I didn't like the end of 52..and I am also a bit confused SPOLIER ALERT SPOILER ALERT...is there now a "megaverse?" But the Freedom Fighter and JSA are still on the same earth as JLA, etc. They have various earth people just in the personnel of Checkmate. Can someone explain? I was confused by the WWIII too, and it was nicely explained to me.
52 Explanation by Squashua	May 3rd, 2007 03:08:15 PM
There are currently 52 different Earth-# in the multverse, each of them "derived" from the "New Earth" at the end of Infinite Crisis. Mr. Mind sucked nuggets of history from each of these Earths, creating different and separate timelines for each, all derived from Earth-1. "New Earth" is Earth-1; it is the current mainstream DCU. A different iteration on the Crime Syndicate is Earth-3. Earth-5 (Earth-*S*) is the Shazam! Earth. Based on ION, expect an Earth-# to be named for the Tangent Earth eventually.
Not quite Sqaushua by Psynapse	May 3rd, 2007 03:36:59 PM
New Earth is NOT Earth-1. As Rip said in the issue the Multiverse is now Earths 1-51 AND New Earth which is the mainstream DCU. New earth is now an amalgam of everything DC has published to date.
Still confused... by Ambush Bug	May 3rd, 2007 07:29:44 PM
Soooooo does that mean that there is an Uncle Sam Earth and a Earth Prime (New Earth) where Uncle Sam interacts with the rest of the DCU and functions on the same timeline? Same with SHAZAM? If so, why is this a good thing? DC did a lot of work to clean up all of the continuity flubs and weird multi-earth crap. Now they seem to be messing things up again.
which one of... by blackthought	May 3rd, 2007 10:44:13 PM
those earths was captain america killed on again?
Well by Squashua	May 4th, 2007 09:24:55 AM
It's a good thing in that pre-crisis books aren't invalidated anymore. I guess. The "New Earth" is essentially the timeline since Post-Crisis till now, with a number of tweaks.
It figures.... by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 09:38:52 AM
Only an @$$hole would see acknowledging your entire publishing history while re-opening the full potential of it's storytelling capability as 'messing things up again'.
well, that settles it. by Homer Sexual	May 4th, 2007 09:56:07 AM
I am a big @$$hole because I was not thrilled with the 52 earths. I do appreciate the explanation, though. No Whedongasm for me. I am a true oddball, because I think he's done great on Runaways so far, but this week's Astonishing X-Men was unimpressive. Was ok, but not that great. My feelings about Astonishing in general.
oh dear... by blackthought	May 4th, 2007 10:50:15 AM
no comment.
Well then..... by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 12:06:41 PM
Why is it 'cool' for Marvel to have a multiverse but 'dumb' for DC? I'm really failing to see the distinction here....
Psynapse by mbeemer	May 4th, 2007 01:04:14 PM
Because DC has destroyed and rebuilt their multiverse several times over the last 2 decades. They can't even figure out themselves whether they even want it or not.
Really? by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 01:56:53 PM
That's funny, I seem to remember 2 attempts to clean up continuity and then an understanding that continuity isn't the end-all be-all and fuck it, why not tell whatever story we want. But whatever, those of you not liking it are fucked, so get over it. Oh and Mbeemer? 1st Crisis destroys Multiverse(1985), Zero Hour attempted to rectify the continuity holes left by Crisis (1994), 2nd Crisis restores Multiverse (2005) is ALL I've seen from DC Since 1985. What are you reading? (By the way, please note that only 2 of those had ANYTHING to with a multiverse also)
Also.... by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 01:59:19 PM
I'd take the fact that they recreated it pretty damn big sign that they DO want it. But there I go again, looking at all of those pesky trees messing up that beautiful forest.
Why I'm not into it. by Homer Sexual	May 4th, 2007 05:44:43 PM
It's just confusing and a waste. I am honestly asking "Why?" Since all the JSA people exist in New Earth, along with the Marvels, Freedom Fighters, etc, what is the purpose in recreating all these different earths? To tell new Freedom Fighters stories on Earth 5 where the Nazis won WW2? Whatever, no one wants to read that sh!t. We already have a great FF on New Earth. To put the Marvel Family in a self-contained universe with all that retro whatever? To see that Earth 2 Huntress in action again? Bleegh!
Agree to disagree and all that... (*_^) by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 09:40:35 PM
If it turns you off, don't spend the coins, eh? For me, Jeff Smith's Shazam series has reminded me that I will damn near always enjoy a decent take on the classic Marvels. (As a kid reading 'em in the 70's the Big Red Cheese was just plain cooler than Supes) Though I repeat, it doesn't suck to have all those stories I've read re-validated and that's that. :)
Mark Waid says it best.... by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 09:57:10 PM
Frome Newsarama: 'Some of them may resemble some pre-Crisis realities. Most do not. I don't think it was anyone's intention to "restore" a multiverse, nor to "restore" old stories. You're overthinking it.'
Better yet...the writers all.... by Psynapse	May 4th, 2007 10:01:47 PM
NRAMA: And these new earths affected by Mr. Mind just happen to resemble earths that existed before the first Crisis, which happened, as certain DCU characters remember the earlier multiverse... MW: Some of them may resemble some pre-Crisis realities. Most do not. I don't think it was anyone's intention to "restore" a multiverse, nor to "restore" old stories. You're overthinking it. NRAMA: So, to put a philosophical twist on it, this really is the worlds being changed by the flapping of a butterfly's wings, huh? MS: Yes. You know, I had a much longer and far more amusing answer, but at the end of the day, the answer is still “yes.” NRAMA: The various earths that we've seen here - characters that are alive there, but not on ours, etc...what's up with that? Specifically Power Girl, missing on Earth-2, but present on Earth-1. Why aren't there just two versions of Power Girl, as there are with the Marvels, the Charlton heroes, etc? MS: As we have now been joined by the one and only Geoff Johns, writer extraordinaire, I humbly pass the mike to Mark and Geoff. Fellas, do your thing. MW: There's probably more than two. Of any or all of those guys. That's the beauty of it. INFINITE IDEAS, dude. Don't make me look at you and start wondering how big a boot you'd make. Geoff Johns: Everything in that shot is in there for a reason. NRAMA: Okay…but then, does the JSA still exist on New Earth? But it exists on Earth 2 as well, right? MW: Sure! Why not? And maybe Earth-46. And maybe Earth-29. Who knows? The entire point of making 52 worlds was to create possibilities, not limit them. NRAMA: Alright then, is there a master list of all the earths that charts all of these differences and similarities? MW: There is not. We, at one point, were asked to provide one, and that 's when we all pointed out that cataloguing them and locking them all in stone is totally antithetical to the whole concept of opening up a realm of wonder and infinite possibility. Superhero comics aren't about rules. They're about flying. Greg Rucka: Why in the name of all that is holy would we give that away three days after we've brought them back? Sheesh. You guys give a whole new definition to the word "impatience.
haha... by blackthought	May 5th, 2007 08:47:18 AM
me likey. i hope earth-15 kicks ass....i enjoy that number. a world where the justice league cartoon never gets canned.
52 baby!!! by Thalya	May 5th, 2007 02:08:59 PM
52! And Mark Waid really did say it best: Superhero comics aren't about rules. They're about flying. Also, did anyone notice that the former Earth-X (Freedom Fighter Earth) is now Earth 10? Heh. But really, what a way to end it. There were so many breathtaking and geekout moments in there.. I haven't seen anything like it since Infinite Crisis, only these moments resonated more. Ted Kord! Wow. Imagine seeing the moment in Booster's new series when he has to place the scarab where it'll be found and recovered by Hawkman, only to have Ted recover it for CtIC.
Hey Prof, speaking of all-ages... by Thalya	May 5th, 2007 02:14:27 PM
Didja read Korgi? Huh huh? The pyrorespirations and the UFOs and the "It's SOOOOOO CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTEEE!!!!!"
Thalya... by Prof Challenger	May 7th, 2007 01:33:21 AM
It's like you're speaking a foreign language. Enlighten me to "Korgi"
Prof.. by Thalya	May 7th, 2007 10:50:44 AM
http://tinyurl.com/yqtexm As simple as it's drawn (and it makes like the Larry Hama G.I. Joe silent issue), it really was enchanting and there's promise of more to come. The surprises really made it. But then I also happen to extremely like Welsh Corgis.
Thal by Shigeru	May 7th, 2007 11:09:55 AM
Did you get the Free Comic Book Day Owly? If you like Korgi...
"Superhero comics aren't about rules... by Shigeru	May 7th, 2007 11:16:16 AM
They're about flying." BWAHAHAHA after reading about this 52 shit, that's the funniest thing ever. Reading that summary does not inspire thoughts of realms of wonder and imagination, it inspires me to buy a different comic.
Nah, I didn't Shig.. by Thalya	May 7th, 2007 11:18:18 AM
I didn't really take advantage of the free books because there was this one book, Comics 101 from TwoMorrows Publishing, that I had requested but my shop ran out before I got there. sigh And I know, they put Owly and Korgi in their FCBD book, but it seemed redundant to get that book and Korgi. D'you get any interesting reads this weekend?
Who's reading Runaways? by Psynapse	May 7th, 2007 12:25:59 PM
And if so, do you have your copy of issue 19 volume 2 handy? ( I ask because there is a bit of dialogue in there that utterly slams while clocking the 'Pro-Reg' bullshit that has poisoned the Marvel U. proper)
Don't Crap too hard on Mark Waid, Shiggy by Squashua	May 7th, 2007 01:06:57 PM
Dude writes Brave & the Bold which is by far the best thing DC is putting out next to All Star Superman.
And by the by, Squash.. by Thalya	May 7th, 2007 01:22:30 PM
What'd you think of B&B #3? I'm personally thinking this Beetle could fit in equally well as Ted Kord into a JLI, though for different reasons. I'd love to see that, if only for the tug of war that'd ensue between Batman and Guy Gardner. (not to mention the interaction he's had with Booster Gold, Fire's appeared in his book, and his one adventure with the New Gods isn't even a hop and a skip from Scott Free)
Squash by Shigeru	May 7th, 2007 06:12:27 PM
that's pretty hilarious, putting those 2 books together. heh. ....wait, you weren't kidding? Psy is that the latest issue? I am liking Whedon on it, but I'm not so sure about giant dude with metal wings and a sword controlled by old lady...seems way to 1990's for me. Also, I miss Alphona, though the new cat is pretty good.
Speaking of artists by Shigeru	May 7th, 2007 06:13:29 PM
I would let John Cassaday have his way with me. Sexually.
T by Shigeru	May 7th, 2007 06:15:50 PM
Yeah I believe the Korgi thing in the Owly book is just a few pages from the first trade that came out (and my shop somehow didn't order, grrrr). It kind of threw me off cause I was expecting a somewhat realistic tale and I get a Korgi lighting a tree on fire with its mind. Still am going to have to pick up that trade, though. And for the love of all woodland creatures, PLEASE get the Owly Vol. 1 trade. $10!
Wait... by Thalya	May 7th, 2007 08:15:02 PM
Lighting a tree on fire with its mind?! Tree or troll? 'Cause that wasn't in the book! DAMMIT! Gotta have Pyro Korgi goodness. The full first trade has a lot in common with something like The Hobbit, actually.
Hm by Shigeru	May 8th, 2007 09:45:11 AM
Well maybe the few pages were not from the trade. Actually they probably weren't. Yes there's a troll thing, hiding in a tree, and spoilers Korgi gets a look of fire reflected in his eyes. And then we see the tree half-burnt with a grumpy burnt troll thing in it. To be fair, the troll thing stole the dog's cookie. That's just mean.
Blue Beetle in Brave and the Bold by Squashua	May 8th, 2007 02:23:48 PM
B. I think Mark has an excellent hand on his characterization in B&B #3, and Batman is treating him like a father might treat someone else's kid. Not like Bruce treats Robin, but more like a "fun" High School coach and a student one-on-one. And not the kind of coach that touches you in the team shower room. I loved their back-n-forth banter, and I think Mark has done more for Supergirl than anyone has since she was first re-inserted into the DCU.
Supergirl got re-inserted? by Psynapse	May 9th, 2007 09:29:58 AM
Ahuh-ahuh-ahuh.....
hack! coughcoughcoughcoughcough by Psynapse	May 11th, 2007 02:01:26 PM
Pray for those of us living in central Florida today. Seriously....
coincidence maybe? or not! by ruiz2010	May 13th, 2007 08:05:46 PM
"The restoration of the DC Universe's multiple earth(52), the terrible future their actions are having an implied relevance upon what is going on(DC's upcoming countdown)". I think these story ideas have been lifted from "Twilight of the superheroes" by Alan Moore?
How about some Shut The Fuck up, ruiz2010? by Psynapse	May 14th, 2007 10:09:01 AM
You are SERIOUSLY retarded if you're trying to imply that Morrison or ANY of the 52 writers cribbed from Moore in any way.
Last? by Quintus_Arrius	May 16th, 2007 08:17:24 AM
may be... may be not

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