Watch where you step.

Don't trust whitey.

See a doctor and get rid of it.

Good Luck!

...my pants got tight...painting the carpet...I reckon I could still scratch some delicious cashew remains from a freshly squeezed turd...a ripe mound of mule foreskins...

Man, I am trying to eat out here! Take it down just a bit...whatever happened to...it sucks, piece of shit, fucking garbage, shitstorm...

My delicate sensibilities cannot take the filth any more!

The actual trailer itself is decent but doesn't give me the same amount of hope that others have. I liked the teaser better. Plus, the attempts to "Caucasian-ize" Jessica Alba are getting really ridiculous. Either accept the fact that she's Hispanic or recast her with a white actress.

not silver enough, not like thc comics.. ive seen the trailer and tell the whole movie is gonna be rubbish. they've raped my childhood

fuck already, if you aint gonna see it. so be it

Agreed Johnny was the best part of FF1. The story was terrible and Doom was unforgiveable. It seems like they haven't learned their lesson bringing Doom back in and ruining Surfer and Galactus.

P.S. You're film picks are top notch. I really love Spiderman 2, BB and Sin City.

Fact...I could take ten hours of footage of a camera pointed directly at a bucket of sand and make an exciting trailer.

Fact...trailers are not movies. Just like roller coasters, the ride is short and thrilling, but if I had to sit through that for 90 minutes, someone would have to pay.

Fact...opinions are not facts.

Fact...why do you care if people have mixed feelings about this trailer? Are you working for the studio?

Fact...seriously, dude, anyone who uses "69" as part of a screen name is a...fact.

I'm a little cunt. Well fuck me.

I love you.

After a few rounds, the drunk repeats the story. The man is starting to feel his liquor, but calls him out on it, "You're full of crap!" "No, its true," the drunk says. "I'll show you. Come up to the roof with me and if I'm telling the truth, I'll buy your drinks!"

So they get up from the bar and up to the top of the building. The drunk jumps from the roof, and sure enough, the wind blows him back up! The man can't believe his eyes! The drunk does it a few more times and then says, "You try it!"

The guy jumps off the roof and plunges to his death, hitting the sidewalk with a splat.

The drunk makes his way back downstairs and sits down at the end of the bar and orders another beer. The bartender just shakes his head and says, "Man, Superman. You're a mean drunk."

Oh and Harry, if you're wondering why God screws you, perhaps you ought to recant your Austin-liberal-athiest views and maybe, just maybe he'll deliver.

Hell, I wouldn't even mind the idea of the cloud if it was just part of Galactus' arsenal, like he sends the cloud swarm to devour the planet and then he absorbs the energy from the cloud or something...I could ive with that because at the end, we'd see the real Galactus finding out that his fluffy clouds failed and that the Surfer turned against him, prompting the purple-helmetted one to take matters into his own hands and travel to Earth for a showdown in the third film...I could live with that.

However, I have a feeling that the Surfers powers will end up coming from the same type of Cosmic Storm that gave the FF their powers in the first movie, instead of getting the powers from Galactus.

Which is another thing...why the fuck would the Surfer obey a damn cloud? A giant being with ultimate power, I can understand...but there's no way he would follow a cloud.

Tim Story said regarding Galactus: "most will be happy".

Now most of us want the proper Galactus...not Gah-Lac-tose-In-tol-er-ant or whatever the clouds name is.

So I have my fingers crossed that Story might have pulled a fast one, convincing the world that he's usng the cloud, even saying as much in the novel...but when the movie comes out, prepare for GALACTUS.

Then again, I also believe in the tooth fairy so what do I know? :P

The double standard debate was of course that Harry is a filthy poster and her story paled in comparison to his standard x-rated comments. If that sounds remotely familiar to anyone, and perhaps it does, as I know so many people change their uid's which makes it impossible for me to recognize anyone, I invite you to head over to this talkback:

http://www.aintitc ool.com/?q=node/32476

for my post about harry's awful subtitle to the "superbad" story and join in with what will become a pretty hot debate. see you all there...

Must.Learn.To.Type.

Red Skull as an Afghani warlord who paints his face red to terrorise his enemies...

Darkseid as an Ausralian car salesman who turns insane after fracuring his skull in a car accident?

Two-Face as Tommy Lee Jones...wait a minute...

Galactus better not be a fucking cloud...worst idea since Halle Berry signed on to do Catwoman.

The first FF flick was second only to "Daredevil" in Marvel's modern-day hall of shame. I'll likely check this sequel out on video, but that video did absolutely nothing to get my hopes up.

I like dumb movies, so long as they are told with wit, zip, and panache. I like Flash Gordon. I'd like this to be good. Hmm.

So, that's what they shoulda done. Oh well. My original point was that if this sucks, it's not because it's dumb, it's because it's shit.

This makes me wanna dig out the review of the original that one of my English Language students wrote for me. Yes, despite my inarticulate and typo-filled posts, I taught English for 2 yrs in Japan... so if you wanna see a review of FF written in English by a 16 year old Japanese schoolgirl, maybe I'll post that in the next FF TB. Spoiler: she can only remember two of the four main characters, and describes the film overall as "moderately amusing". I gave her high, high marks.

I agree with your logic The Artist FKA Vesuvio on the team-up movies. While potentially a kickass movie could be made, it never would be. I personally would be so jazzed up to see an Avengers movie with Cap, Iron Man, Goliath, Wasp...and your token 'strong-man'. Herc or Thor may be difficult to convey onto the big screen, but dammit, this movie needs to be made!

As always, we reserve final judgement until we see the movie. I'll be there based on the first trailer, although Cloudlactus and just about every word out of Tim Story's mouth as well as the first movie have tempted me to stay away.

This just isn't the kind of material that you can modernize, like X-MEN was. They needed a filmmaker who would go for the 50 foot tall horn helmeted alien in shades of purple. Someone geek enough to go for retro-future, Kirbyesque trippy visuals but with story sense enough to turn it into a mainstream movie. From what Story says and from the first film, he doesn't seem to be the guy.

In EW, he talked about the first film being hampered because it was an origin story and that accounted for the lack of action and uh...plot, at least plotting by Dr. Doom.

Tim, have you seen SPIDER-MAN? Origin story? Check. Action? Check. Villain plotting? Half-check.

Somebody, probably Arad, seems to have sold the Warren Ellis nano-cloud thing. As somebody who actually read ULTIMATE WHATEVER, I can tell ya, any comic series that takes two full issues for the heroes to step through a door isn't something you can base a movie on...unless you don't want people to watch.

As always, we reserve final judgement until we see the movie. I'll be there based on the first trailer, although Cloudlactus and just about every word out of Tim Story's mouth as well as the first movie have tempted me to stay away.

This just isn't the kind of material that you can modernize, like X-MEN was. They needed a filmmaker who would go for the 50 foot tall horn helmeted alien in shades of purple. Someone geek enough to go for retro-future, Kirbyesque trippy visuals but with story sense enough to turn it into a mainstream movie. From what Story says and from the first film, he doesn't seem to be the guy.

In EW, he talked about the first film being hampered because it was an origin story and that accounted for the lack of action and uh...plot, at least plotting by Dr. Doom.

Tim, have you seen SPIDER-MAN? Origin story? Check. Action? Check. Villain plotting? Half-check.

Somebody, probably Arad, seems to have sold the Warren Ellis nano-cloud thing. As somebody who actually read ULTIMATE WHATEVER, I can tell ya, any comic series that takes two full issues for the heroes to step through a door isn't something you can base a movie on...unless you don't want people to watch.

I think the Surfer could work on film. He's a great visual character. I'm not too much of a Surfer fan in the comics. Would anybody who is that much of a cosmic flowerchild ever herald for Galactus to begin with? When Stan Lee tried to do a Surfer series, the character was just irritating. For almost 20 years, Stan wouldn't let anyone else write the Surfer without special permission, which was weird. You could write Spider-Man, the Hulk, Captain America, the FF but not the Surfer. So his solo book tanked until a late 80s version came out with a more proactive Surfer.

But then I thought about it, and it occurred to me that as soon as Sue takes in the manseed, it too will disappear or at least become more translucent as she incorporates (swallows) it. It would have to work this way; it's as much a part of her now as her blood, her bile, her loving mucous, her sphincter lube. When she turns inviso, we don't see any of that stuff. So, to make it more fun, right before you're about to blow, pull out of her unseen mouth and unload on her invisible face, which will then turn visible where the mayonnaise drippeth. This concludes today's physex lesson.

And yes, there will always be truly notable exceptions (anyone know if Nolan was into Batman prior to landing the gig?), but how can getting a writer and director who at least have a solid like for the source material not be seen as a safe bet? I mean, HALF of Kevin Smith's success is his enduring image as 'one of the people' (accurate or not).

In fairness I should say that my daughter (again, going on age 8) has asked to watch Ang Lee's Hulk a few times. She likes it. But if for some reason her viewing is interrupted by a family outing or whatever, she won't come back to it, whereas with Spidey she would. And she had the same opinion of "Superman Returns," which I took her to see at the theatre. Our opinion was "meh." She prefers the Chris Reeve movies, and we can recite the General Zod lines verbatim (we can rattle off any lines by anyone from any of the Rocky films, I should mention). So there you go. This Saturday I'll take her to see Spidey 3 (I'll have already seen it at a midnight show). And we'll most assuredly see Transformers and FF2 at the show. While my expectations are not high, I know she'll dig'em and I'll be mildly amused. Especially by Jessica and Shia, who come to think of it they really ought to get together in the same movie. Jessica could be the hot piece of ass she is, and Shia could be like a 14-year old wannabe who has the chance to score but doesn't know what to do.

Uh, I'm sorry pillow, what was the question? Oh, yeah--my daughter liked FF, but only just a little. We are Spidey people. Although now I recall that she very much enjoyed "Batman Begins," and that DVD has played a few times at home. But ours is a Spidey house and this week I have an arachniboner.

And I completely agree that the FF are not badasses, but more like adventurers. They shouldn't be left on Earth, they should be in the negative zone, or involved in a Kree/Skrull War. Something big and, well, fantastic.

So Abom, what's your rating for Spidey 3?

I feel that a true Fan Boy at the helm would be a disaster. Kevin Smith's SUPERMAN script was continuity heavy and full of references and guest heroes, etc. Sure, it got screwed with but it needed screwing with. They just didn't screw with it in the right way. Mark Steven Johnson was too much of a fan boy for DAREDEVIL. We got a movie that aspired to Frank Miller's grit but failed, while also failing as a superhero fantasy. Johnson succeeded with GHOST RIDER on the power of that image. I doubt if most people even knew GHOST RIDER was a comic book, or cared. It was a cool image and an unintentionally fun B movie, more grindhouse than GRINDHOUSE.

SPIDER-MAN, while not a perfect movie, got it right. Not slavishly devoted to the comics but embracing the source material. Sam Raimi is a real filmmaker. So is Ang Lee but I don't know what the hell Nick Nolte dosed him with when he was making THE HULK.

All of this crap should have been left of the movie. Like Superninja said, Doom on the board but they can't do what Terry Gilliam did in TIME BANDITS before CGI?

Verbinski can do a JLA movie, I'd love to see his Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman arguing while repelling an army of the dead brought forth by Ares armed with LexCorp technology modified with Ra's Al Ghul's WMDs.

pillow, I'm not sure how I would rate Spidey 3 yet since I haven't seen it, but having read the novel, seen 2nd unit shoot here last year, and watched the trailers, I'm guessing it'll be up there with the other two (with two getting my nod as the better). I think the mass appeal of Spidey is that Peter is an "everyman" who just happens to get these powers. He's a young guy trying to balance out a life of school, work, and getting the girl, and he's delightfully awkward at it. Unlike Superman, he's not from space and he's not invulnerable on earth. Unlike Bruce Wayne, he's not a millionaire with lots of toys and time on his hands. And the catalyst for Peter--the whole "with great power comes great responsibility" could be true of anyone (human), and his self-imposed guilt over having not thwarted his uncle's killer could, theoretically, happen to "regular" people in similarly tragic circumstances. It's a very human story, I guess is what I'm saying, and his fallibility is the charm. The fact that he is a normal guy who gets this "gift" is underscored by the fact that he's excited by his own amazing power. When he goes webswinging, he does it with a "Whhoooohh!!" And it seems like the last thing he wants to do is use his strength against bad guys, especially since so far they've been sympathetic villains

Also, I want a Thor movie. Verbinski can direct that one, too. It needs more Surtur. Why? Because you can never have too much of a giant fire demon.

On the other hand, wouldn't you try out the board if you were given a shot? I'd be coming to a town near you in a heartbeat!

No Beta Ray Bill though.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery /ss/0167261/lotr2_CN-2-204-21A .jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_k ey=Urban%2C%20Karl&seq=3

See? That's Thor.

Abom, I think that bit of humor should be added to the movie.

And did someone say these movies should be like Ghostbusters? Who exactly in this cast do you think could pull that off?

Notness

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If that is your actual opinion, then I am at a loss. There is a reason fans are seen as picky and fickle to the point of being blown off entirely, and that kind of thinking just makes it harder for us.