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Let's try this again... Is this The Joker? I guess not...

Stil looks like the Crow by wadi77	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:37:49 AM

First and... by LordEnigma	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:39:02 AM
That's a cool fucking design for Joker. Again, in the right light and with a great story, that may be one of those DEFINITIVE versions of this character. DC...get somebody ready to have a JOKER look like that!
pretty cool by LeviDTinker	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:39:52 AM
looking forward to seeing the final results next year on the screen.
Ichi! by boyblue	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:44:06 AM
Yeah he looks like the guy from Ichi and for me thats to much of a distraction.
Actually... by LordEnigma	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:46:41 AM
He looks like a dude who has been tortured. THose are all healed scars all over his face and neck. This could be used to explain how he became the sick and twisted bastard, that we all know and love. Again, that's a real-life design, and I give Nolan and Co. props for heading in this direction.
The Animated Series and The Killing Joke by Xiphos	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:47:18 AM
should be the template for Joker, they nailed the look and attitude of one of the best villians in funny book land perfectly. As I said in the other TB, at least this villian HAS a body and is not a cloud. Hey Quint, I hope your not getting fooled again, because getting thrown under the bus twice by big red in one night can't be good for your health.
Where's the grin? by FelixReyesTorena	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:48:02 AM
I like the way the makeup is shaping up, but to me the Joker is only truly the Joker when he's got that sinister grin plastered on his face. Heath Ledger, as is, is looking kind of emo and pissed off, instead of brilliant and insane.
fuck knows! by RighteousBrother	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:48:05 AM
Doesn't look like Heath Ledger to me. It does tie in with what Grant Morisson is doing with the Joker over at Detective Comics at the moment.
A little TOO real world by one9deuce	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:50:38 AM
The Joker should look like The Joker. Heath looks like some goth kid with some pale make-up and green rinse in his hair.
He's Still Wearing The Gray Shirt...Plus, Fingers???? by Darth Fabulous	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:52:52 AM
How many fingers does this dude have?...and Quint's right, the scarring on the mouth is the same. But is that really Heath Ledger?
That Rubicks Cube Chest Plate Won't Stay by Boba Fat	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:53:10 AM

um... by tibbar	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:55:15 AM
so basically, the joker is gonna look like ledger with a white face? what happened to the shoulders-and-up cast they supposedly did of him? THIS is supposed to be the joker? i could do this for halloween with shit i have in a junk drawer, guys... try harder.
Kind of dig it by Boondock Devil	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:55:15 AM
Of course won't really good a good feel for the character until you see him in action. Remember how absolutely hokey those first X-Men pics looked like when they first surfaced online?
If this is real im a little disapointed.... by BatPsycho	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:56:09 AM
I am all for the make up concept, but I just don't like the smile scars. his smile should come from being an insane psycho, not a physical result of the accident.
Emo Joker-Crow needs to wipe the mayo off his cheeks by Regicidal_Maniac	Apr 23rd, 2007 03:58:57 AM
Still can't say I'm entirely convinced, again perhaps it looks better in motion.
I like it by sayanything9	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:01:17 AM
I think this look has real potential.I do think shorter hair would have suited him better but meh...I'm happy
they arent even trying... by tibbar	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:01:52 AM
wouldnt you try to cover your scars up with makeup, if you were deformed? why do the lips not even go onto the scarring at all? this has GOT to be some form of diversion, or the laziest makeup work ive ever seen. are they planning to suppliment cg or something? this is so hokey.
I'd like this better without the scars by Xeniten	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:03:29 AM
I think this picture is the real deal. I kinda like it. But I don't dig those scars.
The Killing Joke should be the ideal Joker template by Xeniten	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:07:32 AM
Stick with that and you won't go wrong! :-)
the joker is more than grease paint by tibbar	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:07:39 AM
period
They put nipples on Heath. by Optimus Murphy	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:09:30 AM
Don't they have any respect for the source material of Heath?
IF this is real... by DerLanghaarige	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:11:57 AM
...I hope it looks better in the movie.
At this point I TOTALLY believe Quint! by Xeniten	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:25:35 AM
The first image was merely a proof of concept. I believe it now. However after looking at this latest image for a reasonably long time now, I REALLY don't like the scarring. He does look far too much like the Crow. I think Heath does have the ability to pull off the Joker on his own, he has the hair line for it as well as the eyes and mouth and jaw for it. The scars are totaly unnecessary.
I LOVE IT by Mike_D	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:25:55 AM
The coloring, the scarring...it works.
That's a pictures of that 80's new wave singer by Orionsangels	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:28:21 AM
Wait what's his name? It's on the tip of my tongue. Oh yeah GAY!!!!! That's what that pix is
No. What the other guy said. Six fingers! by hulk_beanpoll	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:31:04 AM
Last time I checked Heath Ledger did not have six fingers on his hand. Few people do. I would guess it was put there on purpose to make AICN look more foolish for posting it. Of course I could be wrong and maybe Ledger really does have six fingers.
Fake by Wonderboys	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:39:48 AM
Why would a studio put its logo (in the usual disposition as its used for poster) in what appears to be a picture for internal use... also, there is something in that face that is screaming photoshop... believe me, i know photoshop, I've made enough manips to know one at first sight (I succesfully cheated several sites, this included, with a poster for SW:EP II, and with a fake picture of Ben Affleck as Daredevil.. I was a bad boy then)
WTF !!!! by juliomario14	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:39:56 AM
i think the same people that came out with optimus flames and galactus been a freaking cloud are designing the joker's make up .....
I think it's kinda rad by JERRY HORROR	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:40:26 AM
If The Joker was in the real world, this is kinda what he'd look like. Nice and psychotic.
When does he turn into a giant moth? by playahatersball	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:40:43 AM
ROBERT SMITH! ROBERT SMITH!
Jesus wept... by TheAllSeeingEye	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:40:48 AM
It's a test shot, hence the reason for him to be holding up a colour chart. Or did you think that was The Jokers new movie weapon? For fucks sakes. And he doesnt have six fingers, that's quite obviously the underside of his hand. Suggest you go get yourself a better monitor.
wow - that looks like shit by slappy jones	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:42:15 AM
i hope this is just an early idea that has already been scrapped as all blurry photo early days aside that just made my heart sink....terrible.
Happy Halloween by readingwriter	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:43:03 AM
He looks like one of those college kids who goes trick or treating and claims it's satire, a joke, a gag, a funny, but he still eats the candy.
Is that Ledger???? by adamthelegend	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:50:07 AM
Even if it is, im not a fan of it. The Joker is pretty easy to do and they've messed it up - even if they wanted to make it look more "real world" then they should have just done this >> http://www.comictreadmill.com/ images/JokerSmile.jpg
I don't see what the problem is! It's the damn Joker! by The Real McCoy	Apr 23rd, 2007 04:53:25 AM
It's a fake - he has six fingers! I don't like the way he looks. Well, you're not supposed to wanna f*ck the Joker so what's the damn problem. He looks better than I expected. No cheesy grin. No fake smile. No awful bright green hair. He looks like a sick, sadistic, clownish sociapath. Isn't that the point? And for the guy who asked why Warner Brothers would put their logo on something like this, maybe it's to mark it as their property which, if my vision serves me, is what the little blurb says - Property of Warner Brothers.
Looks FAKE by caravaggio	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:07:51 AM
If this is reallly just a photo for the makeup dept to use, then why the WB copywrite info on the bottom? Plus, look at that flipper. Speaking of hands, where the hell is his other arm?
Er.... by TheAllSeeingEye	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:14:10 AM
Maybe that logo is there because it IS property of WB? I'm just throwing that wild guess out there for ya Carvaggio.
Hmmmmm by Brendon	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:14:59 AM
It certainly looks fake... Let's see if somebody can find the 'original' online... Is Quint essentially saying there ARE scars running from the corners of the mouth? Is this the 'word' he's been hearing?
Is this THE CROW DIRECT TO VIDEO Part 600 by Motoko Kusanagi	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:15:06 AM
or some silly joke? THIS HAS WRITTEN fake ALL OVER IT!!!
Thats not going to impress me JACK by kingoflight	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:15:30 AM
This guy looks like a fucking retard look how close his eyes are they are almost touching. He's also not in anyway scary, you can't tell me that even jack nickleson with out makeup on is not scary because he is. This guy looks like a poor halloween dad whos been ropped in to taking the kids on the candy run. Be back before 7 dear.
Her'es the test of it being real or not... by Brendon	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:24:56 AM
...somebody tip off Warners. If they start issuing cease and desist messages, then I think we can ssume it is real... If not... Who knows?
Crispin Glover by juliomario14	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:31:56 AM
he should it be the joker !!!!!Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover Crispin Glover
yeah crispin glover would have been better by kingoflight	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:36:12 AM
but was he just hanibal ?
I STILL SAY... by cornponious	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:39:58 AM
that the Joker in Batman: Dead End is the best version of joker ever brought to life on-screen... that guy, whoever he is, WAS the Joker.
Fingers on Joker make jack go something something... by Axl Z	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:43:26 AM
Go crazy? Don't mind if I do!! Flames on Joker gotta eat!
What DO people expect here? He looks like the JOKER! by Mike_D	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:43:43 AM
If you guys were expecting a shaped-smile ala Batman '89, then everybody would be complaining that Nolan wasnt being original and getting "too comic-booky" and not realistic enough...you just cant win. THATS the joker.
Hey, it's a fat bald tramp being booked. by JackPumpkinhead	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:48:11 AM
How interesting. Here's to Jack Nicholson, Tim Burton and Michael Keaton, the creators of the one real "Batman" film.
i really hope that... by roccotheripper	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:50:03 AM
there isn't black makeup around his eyes in the movie. that would be so stupid!
Has anyone given any thought to the idea that Warners.. by The Real McCoy	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:50:58 AM
...may be testing the waters. Reports on location have said that Ledger wasn't sporting makeup, suggesting they haven't shot him as "the Joker". This could be the WB leaking this stuff just to get an idea of how the fans feel. Or not. But it's definitely not a fake. Enough with the six fingers and the logo talk. I've never seen a fake that good and I've even spent the morning searching Heath Ledger pics for "the original". This may not be the final design but it's definitely real.
After a close inspection...I think its fake. by Mike_D	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:53:30 AM
look at the color (where the neck meets the t-shirt)..its a little..blocky? And his left arm...where the image meets the background, its been blurred a bit and looks like its been "cut out". I'm sad to say...but yes, its fake. And this is coming from a photoshop user.
He looks like Edward Scissorhands with green hair! by Xeniten	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:55:21 AM
Come on! The Scars have to go! Otherwise Heath is the Joker! I love the gray skin, the hair is perfect, the eyes... everything is just right. I totally believe Heath can pull this off. But those scars undermine him.
Ichi the Killer was awesome!! by Poisonouskid	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:56:01 AM
One of the best ultra-violent pics from Japan yet. Heath actually doesn't look bad as Joker. Should be interesting.
To all you Sour-Fuck people: by jedimast3r	Apr 23rd, 2007 05:58:29 AM
All you can do is bitch. We all know that. You come here thinking that you're funny with your play-on-words and sarcastic itchy-twat tounge, but guess what: Noone gives a fuck what you think. The AICN staffers provided a glimpse os Nolan's Joker and even unfinished it looks great. Pays homage to the character, and looks great. What the fuck do you people what? And you come here hating Batman Begins also? Are you people fucking kidding me? You bitch only to bitch, but you're gonna whack off to this movie just like everyone else cause its gonna fucking kick ass. Until you run your own fucking movie spoiler site with something worth saying, shut the fuck up and stop hiding your desire to see this movie. IT'S NOT THE COOL WAY TO BE.
I agree with The Real McCoy by Xeniten	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:01:24 AM
I get the feeling that Warners is testing the waters. So voice your opinions. It's all good. :-) I was totally opposed to Heath as the Joker, at first I thought Crispin Glover would be better for it. But after seeing Heath in these test shots, I rather like Heath. I still hate the scars though. Heath is perfect without the scars.
The movie has just gone into production by emeraldboy	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:02:25 AM
Its early days yet. Calm down.
What's the point? by Blarney-Man	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:10:29 AM
That's a little too dull looking to me.
probably just a test shot by lionbiu	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:16:49 AM
so I am not going to go all psycho over it, I am sure it will look better.
Look what the joker has done to his rubix cube by kingoflight	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:21:59 AM
He just could not solve it so the crazy bastard cut it to pieces and took photos of himself playing with the dead body!
Looks like SHIT by Steve Rogers	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:22:55 AM
I trust Nolan and I hope this is a fake, or an early test, or whatever else it could be rather than actually being what they're going to do. I REALLY don't want to see the Joker as some 2nd rate Ichi the Killer rip-off.
TOO SOON!! by Pageiv	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:23:03 AM
He'll never top Jack!
And his little friend, Rubik! by TomBodet	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:24:49 AM
Cue early 80's tv theme music.
Quint, Harry threw you under the bus. by Bronx Cheer	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:29:01 AM
I absolve you, my son, so now go finish your contest!
jedimast3r by kingoflight	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:29:23 AM
STFU our opinions own you !
Okay, I'm confused by OneManHairBand ATX	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:33:22 AM
So, Nolan said that they used Moore's "Killing Joke" and Morrison's "Arkham Asylum" as reference material... and they came up with THIS as how the Joker's face should look? Did they even LOOK at Bolland's artwork?
What the heck is Two-Face gonna look like!?!? by kinanswer	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:33:30 AM
If this is the Joker, will Two-Face be more 'Man Without A Face' than OTT Batman Forever? Not sure how Heath will sound. I still have Mark Hamill ringing in my ears ...or they may dub him with another actor. Laurence Fishburne anyone? Anyone?
It's all in the lighting by DEZDOONZ	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:42:54 AM
If this is the final version, with the great Wally Pfister's cinematography, he could look pretty menacing. We'll see...
lol funny guy by kingoflight	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:45:38 AM
Joker take blue pill story ends wake back in a nice clean arkham cell or take the red pill and i'll show you how deep batmans cave really goes. Just dub over his voice with tony the tigers.
I don't like it by YackBacker	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:46:48 AM
And that is my honest gut reaction-- it's not me spewing forth venom and hate at the movie. I'm still excited to see the film, but I'm not diggin this Joker look at all.
Looks crap. by stones_throw	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:51:03 AM
What's with the scars? Everyone knows what the Joker really looks like.
i'd bitch more about this joker than the cloud in ff2 by JeanLuc Dickhard	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:54:28 AM
cause this is a major fuck up by warner bros and dc if this is what they decided to go with .... fucking crow looking crap ....
The Chelsea Smiles! by FirstBornSun	Apr 23rd, 2007 06:58:48 AM
A Glasgow smile (or Chelsea grin) is a nickname for the practice of cutting a victim's face from the edges of the mouth to the ears: the cut - or its scars - form an "extension" of what looks like a smile. Sometimes to further hurt or even kill the victim, he or she would then be stabbed or kicked, most notably in the stomach (or in case of kicking, the groin), so that the the face would be ripped apart when the victim screams. The practice originated in the Scottish city of Glasgow, which gave it its name. It also became popular in Chelsea, London (where it is known as a "Chelsea grin") and other areas of Britain, for gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang members.
Not bad!! by jojo-pimp	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:04:29 AM
I rememer when the first pics of Bale in the batsuit came out, and cause it had a white background, everyone said it looked terrible. I think this look will be great in a dimly lit sit with just the right lighting to make ledger as creepy as possible.
I like the scar smile idea by Lone Fox	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:06:24 AM
But I'd prefer it looked like a fresher wound. Or better yet, the scars were left open, so he really has a wide smile. If they can put nads on Silver Surfer...
It doesn't look like Ledger to me by Bobo_Vision	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:06:39 AM
Neither did the other one. It looks like some wannabe actor who probably has a lot of people always telling him he looks just like Heath Ledger, so he cooked up a hoax for him and his friends to laugh about. Just a theory.
WIPE THE SCARS OFF!!! by yeah boss!	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:08:17 AM
Yo what's with those bloody scars!! Keep the Jack Nicholson look with a permanent leer not some crappy fake green that's really a scar. This looks waaaay toooo much like the frickin' crow. His eyebrows are supposed to be a bit more arched too like in the comic and Nicholson's was.
BEST WAY FOR THEM TO HANDLE JOKER: by stlfilmwire	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:09:15 AM
The first movie did a nice set up. They just need to not feel like they have to go too much into The Joker's origin. Let's just say he's been around. The world knows who this villian is. Let's get into the guts of the story. And one comment: DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO KILL HIM OFF BY THE END OF THE PICTURE. The problem with Marvel flicks is that IT SEEMS that they introduce and kill off villians to freaking quickly. Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Venom... need I say more?
It won't look like the Crow by Sepulchrave	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:09:41 AM
if he laughs or smiles at all, particularly if those scars open up at all. It could be really horrible. And that does look like Heath Ledger.
i meant grin there above not green! by yeah boss!	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:09:42 AM
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Heath's smile... by yeah boss!	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:13:27 AM
...is already quite wide and big, why the hell have they gone down the scar route. oooh to make it more 'realistic'! Stupid look says I. Don't mind the hair though just the eyebrows and the 'grin' (or lack of it) is what sucks bigtime.
Oh and Morrison's Joker in Arkham Asylum by Sepulchrave	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:13:35 AM
was meant to be a drag-queen sort of Frankenfurter character in stilletto heels and fishnets but they also wussed out on that.
scars ? (where i can find ? question) by juliomario14	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:15:29 AM
does anybody knows where i can find a pic (comic book) where the joker have the scars or explain how he get the scars ? thank you damn you kichael bay lol
Calm down, folks by BizarroJerry	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:16:48 AM
I remember when the very first picture of Bale as Batman came out and there was still a lot of bitching. And hell, it's a makeup test, who knows what he'll really look like. Start bitching after a real publicity photo shows up. But I do agree that after Batman in '89, some more casual fan types have forgotten that Joker does not have a permanently affixed grin on his face. He actually smiles on purpose. In fact, he's been know to frown on occasion. And after all that, I must add that the Joker isn't easy to do if you're trying for a more real world kind of setting. Burton's strange world makes it easier for the Joker to fit in, I think. Let's not be too superficial, anyway. The performance is more important.
Chad Lowe by jinnjab	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:19:25 AM
He's playing the Crow? Sweet!
I thought this was a Batman movie... by Fridge	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:20:51 AM
...not another Crow sequel. Jesus, that better not be what I'm looking at when I go to see The Dark Knight because that is NOT the Joker. The Joker is a CLOWN, a psychotic CLOWN. Not some stupic Crow rip-off, not some emo cutter, not Edward Scissorhands. He's a damn clown, now make him look like a twisted, crazy, insane one.
shannon sossamon for catwoman by hesky75	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:21:13 AM
you know im right!!!
shannon sossamon by juliomario14	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:22:19 AM
yes you ARE
casting perfection! by hesky75	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:24:04 AM
i could see the definitive selena kyle she is foxy enough alright!
Nick Nolte's in trouble again? this isn't news! by HypeEndsHere	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:24:21 AM
did he get busted for being a tranny hooker this time?
Batman: Dead End by themanwhojaped	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:24:58 AM
I agree, The Joker from Batman Dead End is the definite screen version in my mind. That whole fan film was awesome.
hmmmm.... by klattimus_darby	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:26:24 AM
Well shit, that is a different look, isn't it? I don't know man...
Another Matthew McConaughy... by Kid Z	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:27:34 AM
... drunk driving arrest???
RighteousBrother: by the_chick	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:29:36 AM
No offense, and not to be nit-picky, but Morrison's working on "Batman", and Paul Dini is doing "Detective Comics". Not trying to be a bitch, but what else is the use of working at a comic books store if you're not going to smug trivia fanboys to death?
its just a mekeup test. by Cotton McKnight	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:30:46 AM
I cant add anything to the discussion other than to say that its just a test, thats all. And he looks "emo" for a reason, im guessing. Its just a normal shot of him with a blank expression,thats all. They probably didnt want him to smile.
Glascow Smile? Chelsea Grin? by Kid Z	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:32:23 AM
... the gangsters can't just whack the guy? Geez you Brits are weird!
It's fine by Fecal Debris	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:32:43 AM
and with the right amount of light or darkness, it'll come off all right. Jesus Christ, it's just a test shot.
to quote someone from The Zone... by The Only Woj	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:33:10 AM
"There are sketches out there of his ideal Joker, and maybe they'll see the light of day, eventually, but they were basically labelled too extreme by Warner Bros. and then, ultimately, too unrecognizable. They consider Joker a commodity like Batman (and unlike characters like Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul) and feared that fans would reject a radical deviation from canon. Their memo to Nolan was to basically create a "real-world Joker," which is why he looks like all the photoshopped versions of Ledger that we've seen online for the past several months." personally, we've seen the Joker from the comics (appearance-wise). I'd rather a "new" Joker look with Nolan's version than another derivative of the comic version.
red lipstick on the mouth scars... by klattimus_darby	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:34:45 AM
THAT would make it cool, the joker literally drawing his smile out to cover the damage
That NOT the Joker!!!!! by Sigmar25	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:35:06 AM
LOOKS LIKE THE FREAKING CROW - THIS IS THE JOKER NOLAN & BROS. HAVE COME UP WITH?!?! NOOOOOOOO!
Still looks like SHIT by Steve Rogers	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:36:43 AM
Took some time out, came back to look again. Opinion unchanged. If anything it looks worse. PLEASE don't be doing this, Nolan.
I think the scars will be covered with CGI... by Flip63Hole	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:38:44 AM
for extra large mouth opening and the brow scars are probably for enhanced/exaggerated jokery brow.
Anything we see here will pale to the on screen result. by YotzVonFrelnik	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:38:45 AM
Just an optimistic/realistic view on things to put in perspective.
someone leak Nolan's sketches! by The Only Woj	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:45:01 AM
lets see what WB said "no" to first before we crit Nolan at all for this one. I'd like to see what his versions looked like, even if they didn't look like his comic counterpart.
Meh..... by Angry Golfer	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:51:57 AM
That looks way too plain and not the "sadistic and crazy" look they've been talking about. Right now it looks like he fell off his bike and got a few scrapes.
Glasgow Smile and Chelsea Grin... by BizarroJerry	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:53:57 AM
Sounds like some goofy euphemisms from British porn, to me...
"Bob. Gun." by uss cygnus	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:55:03 AM
bang I'm going to need a minute or two alone boys...to call Kevin Spacey.
Hate that Joker! by sirbroiler	Apr 23rd, 2007 07:55:36 AM
Okay - I'm all for realism but this is just way too mild for my taste. Any chance this is a pre-chemical accident Joker? Maybe, just maybe he's not "full-on Joker" until later in the film. Even though he was mentioned at the end of BB, doesn't mean he's disfigured yet. If would fit with the Red Hood-type origin discussed elsewhere? Still keeping the faith, but struggling.
What?... by jimmy rabbitte	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:04:38 AM
...no test shots of The Joker's cowboy taint?
It's Not a 6th Finger ... by Thunderbolt Ross	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:10:16 AM
... It's the Silver Surfer's balls! Galactus is gonna be pissed.
hmmm - well by Lost Prophet	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:12:25 AM
Don't hate it. Not excited by it either.
I hope... by 7pointedstar	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:16:49 AM
...that this is the look they go with. A killer who cuts his own face into a smile is much more plausible than a guy who falls into some acid/toxic waste/discarded chemicals and comes up with a grin and green hair. I'm a huge Joker fan...but I want to see him get a slightly more "real world" treatment for this movie. And this picture is a step in the right direction... ...if it's real.
as a JOKER fan by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:17:20 AM
...it looks good so far...the scars is cool (even though its been used so many times) but I wanna see the evil grin Mr. J is known for...
Nolan Was Probably going to go with something like this by ajtk210	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:24:30 AM
http://www.sequart.com/members /graphics/18/bermejo_joker1.jp g
Innie scars by LordShinerBock	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:32:01 AM
Let's hope they use the innie scars instead of the outties. Like the idea that he tried to cut himself to make his grin bigger...then again it DOES look a lot like the CROW.....
Jokers asian brother... by ABVH	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:34:12 AM
http://www.cinemastrikesback.c om/news/daily/ichi-1000-new-1. jpg
Looks like the Crow! by kinghenryVIII	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:34:33 AM
Still, if it's any where near as good as Begins I'll have wood till openning day.
OMG! Makeup tests MONTHS before production starts SUCK! by Zarles	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:37:31 AM
Seriously, some of you guys are total fucking assholes. Maybe knitting is more your bag, because you obviously know shit-all about movies.
Hmmm... by skycrapper	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:38:55 AM
That doesn't really look like Ledger. Which is fine, I wouldn't expect him to being made up as the Joker but I really hope that's an early concept make up picture. I would expect him to be a little scarier. I mean have the mouth look like a gaping scar not something that looks like a surgery scar.
Well Production has started by ajtk210	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:39:22 AM
Like a month ago, in Chicago. So dont be an asshole and get a clue Zarles.
I like it, but I don't think it's Heath Ledger... by Sidzed	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:40:51 AM
I sorta dig the direction Nolan is going in, and remain hopeful that Heath could be bloody scary. But to be honest, I don't really think that is Heath Ledger - it barely looks like him. I've studied some photos of him, and the facial structure is veeeery close but the eyes seem wrong. Perhaps it is just very clever make-up. Furthermore, it doesn't really look like that infinitely more believable (albeit blurry as heck) spy photo. This joker thing is very interesting, and I can't wait for WB to release a proper promotional still.
I like it...and here are some reasons why... by isispop	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:40:57 AM
I think it's real, & I dig it. I also work in Photoshop 10 hrs a day just like some of the doubters of whether this is real. I won't go into exactly why I think you're wrong in sayin it's fake cause that's a whole other talkback. I really like it though. This may be a little too real worldly for some comic palettes, but that's what I want. Do you know how insane you'd have to be to cut your own face to look like a big smile & think it looked good? We've all stood next to those great Jokers/Harleys and had our pics snapped w/em at whatever comic con...but those are cartoony/Burton/Schumaker like. If I were to see this shot and he had some store bought white clown make up, (which did come off on Jack's neck in unedited shots btw) and a bright colored suit then I'd be upset. Does anyone here really want a Joker with the crayola purple suit, orange shirt, whiter than white face & kelley green hair? Also, in this pic he's not in character. Assuming this is real...it's a test shot. No mood lighting, atmosphere, or even acting. If you were to have a shot of Killain Murphy standin there like this with his scarecrow mask in this context, you haters would have the same predictable shit to say about that...but the movie/character utlimatley worked for me & then some. Bottom line is I trust Nolan & company. I went into the first w/serious doubts, but I was proven wrong. That in turn resulted in me realizing that in some of these cases, the filmmaker might occasionally be right, and your basic fanboy is sometimes not only wrong...but rushes to judgement w/very little info to draw from. Your comic book joker doesn't fit into Nolan's Gotham. He wouldn't look right there & would stick out of the scenery like a sore thumb.
Are those supposed to be scars, or by Snookeroo	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:46:33 AM
is that just places where the prosthetic makeup has been pulled off? Frankly, I'd like to see a Joker that is more believeable than the comix version -- and Nolan is the guy to do it.
Yeah, what isispop said by Snookeroo	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:52:26 AM
I agree 100%
Ichi The Killer by Skankardly	Apr 23rd, 2007 08:56:15 AM
now that's a seriously disturbing fuckin' movie.
Don't listen to Harry by StovetopStuffin'	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:06:32 AM
If you recall, he also told everyone emphatically that Venom will not appear in Spiderman 3.
More Bat-crap from Christopher Nolan... by anchorite	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:07:51 AM
Batman Begins was tripe, and if this is how he intends to make the Joker look in Dark Knight, I'm gonna call TRIPE ALERT! I know there's a desire to make things less "cartoony" and more realistic when adapting them to film (hence the X-Men in black leather), but the Joker isn't just meant to be some guy with a scarred face and a bad dye job. And is it just me or does that guy in the pic look a lot like Wes Bentley?
I can't quit you, Quint! by Cheif Brody	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:07:59 AM
What did our fearless leader say? Oh, yeah..."Fool me once...shame on you! Fool me twice...uh....eh...not gonna get fooled again"! This appears to be WB publicity's lame as attempt at controlling the spin on the very FIRST far away fuzzy paparrazzi pic some hack shot. The first pic, with the Black Dahlia scars they sent ya, was wrong...so they panic, and send ya this one. It's cool, Quint...it's just WB jerkin yer chain. I still say, with Nolan's "darker" take....that the plan is to give us what we EXPECT Joker to look like for the first 3/4 of the movie...and then he's gonna show up looking worse for wear at some point....and probably be really fucked up by the end. I have to imagine Nolan will want to put his own unique stamp on the final look of the Joker...and what they are giving us now, is NOT the final, really fuckin evil version. Hope he doesn't end up looking like the girl in the ad on the home page with the packing tape messin up her grill!! The question is....will we get a Harley Quinn in this outing?
I didn't have faith in Batman Begins... by Dr_Zoidberg	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:08:47 AM
I had no anticipation for it, the trailers did very little for me despite the fact that I was a HUGE fan of Memento, and though Insomnia and Following were really good. But DAMN, Batman Begins is hands down the BEST comic book movie, or should that be best FILM based on comic book. It's a real movie, especially the first half. I adore the film. So I'm not worrying about ANYTHING with The Dark Knight, because I know it will be awesome. The Prestige was awesome. Nolan is awesome. Or should it be The Nolans are awesome. Stop saying awesome. Awesome.
Stare the pic, right in the eyes... by ajtk210	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:09:11 AM
Imagine him giving a dark and insane look, and imagine him grinning as you stare, this is the Joker.
Yeah, what isispop said, pt. II by nhoj3	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:10:24 AM
I also agree 100%
emo youth is not 60 yr old dark knight nemesis by JRKerr	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:12:19 AM
this is really irritating me
The hair is green, the face is white, the lips are red. by TheFunkyEnigma	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:24:59 AM
For me, this is all you need for the joker, make-up wise. The rest is all in the Ledger's ability to creep you the fuck out. Need to see the fucker smile before I bitch and moan.
Regardless... by Zarles	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:25:07 AM
It's a fucking makeup test. That's it. Nothing final at all. Some of you act like this is a goddamned screenshot or something.
JRKerr by Darth Kong	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:27:07 AM
There are more important things to be irritated about. Chill. You'll go and see the movie, so what the f*** do WB care?
I originally hated the idea of Ledger as the Joker... by rbatty024	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:28:34 AM
and I still sort of hate it, but Nolan has knocked everything else out of the park that I'm willing to trust him. Now the guy has to figure out how to film action sequences because the quick cuts just are working.
"I hope, ten years from now, they reboot the reboot." by Shermdawg	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:32:51 AM
Well, at least he's not a cloud. logs out
Just out of curiosity... by Cletus Van Damme	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:37:39 AM
...what does it take for you people to give Nolan the benefit of the doubt? If 'Batman Begins' doesn't make you give a director street cred, I have no idea what will.
This is the LEE BERMEJO Joker by exerciseguy	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:38:03 AM
There is an image of The Joker floating around the net for the past few years of a chracter design done by LEE BERMEJO. This image is DEFINETELY consistant with that image. http://www.sequart.com/members /graphics/18/bermejo_joker1.jp g
"The Clown Prince of Crime is Sexy & Smart" by Earl Dittman	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:39:43 AM
Earl Dittman - Wireless Magazine
Batman:Dead End by JD Lux	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:39:44 AM
They should go for the same look as the Joker from Sandy Collora's Batman:Dead End short film.Although it was low budget, it still managed to capture the look and feel of what the Joker is all about.Now if we could only see Sandy's World's Finest then we would know what a true superhero team up movie is supposed to be like.
I hope we get something better than Edward Scissorcrow by SpyGuy	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:40:03 AM
Because if this is the final look, I'm going to be extremely disappointed. Christopher, even stupid little Goth kids have more bleached-white skin than this...
The scarring's a bad idea by Chief Redcock	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:42:39 AM
Joker shouldn't have scars like that... what's the point? The character's already scary enough as is in the comic books.
It KINDA looks VK.... by Anna Valerious	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:44:52 AM
More like Yu~Ki than Kozi...
Well, yeah it doesn't look great. by rev_skarekroe	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:49:42 AM
He's just standing there. In the actual film, Ledger'll be, y'know, ACTING like the Joker, and he'll be lit right and he'll be moving around and stuff. So relax.
I think maybe Heath Ledger is too pretty to be playing by wolvenom	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:50:07 AM
the joker. All I see is a pretty boy without the joker's patented smile. I'm hoping that this is a shot without him wearing prosethics on his face or something. I do expect them to give him a more accented nose and screw with his chin a bit so I'm a bit disapointed looking at what is essentially just the crow right now. I dont want to be looking at the joker thinking about the crow for the whole movie. I hated the crow and I dont want to hate the next batman. Trying to go for the realistic approach like Nolan did with scarecrow as opposed to the comics might not work with the joker in my opinion. I'm just not connecting with this photo. Maybe I was spoiled by Nicholson's joker and want to see that again but with a different actor.
Brittany Murphy for Harley Quinn by CarmillaVonDoom	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:50:46 AM
She could certainly handle the distinctive voice work style of the original in the cartoon. Something about her just screams 'lunatic' to me, I don't know.
personally by landster	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:52:43 AM
I don't see Heath in these photos. I'm thinking a preproduction photo of his stuntdouble maybe??
OH AND STFU ABOUT BATMAN:DEAD END! by wolvenom	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:54:37 AM
STOP MENTIONING THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE EVERYTIME YOU HEAR BATMAN NEWS ON HERE. That fucking joker was 15 years old, his laugh was fucking retarded, and he was way too spastic. The rest of that short film was okay (Mainly the fight between batman and the predator), but the joker was by no means a good joker... he was garbage.
I hate the scars too by exerciseguy	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:55:05 AM
Why does everyone feel the need to to reinvent the wheel when it comes to comic-book movies? Rubber Bat Costumes galore, a Super-brat, a Plant-Eating Cloud, stupid love interest for the ladies. It's insulting.
OH AND STFU ABOUT HARLEY QUINN!!! by wolvenom	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:55:45 AM
SHE WAS CREATED FOR THE FUCKING CARTOON! SO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMICS ON WHICH BATMAN WAS BASED.
Cesar Romero is turning in his grave by MontyPigeon	Apr 23rd, 2007 09:57:06 AM
Whoever thought The Joker would be a member of My Chemical Romance? The Dark Knight R.I.P
I'd like to have a Rodriguez helmed DKR... by Shermdawg	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:00:13 AM
...starring Powers Boothe as Bats. The chances of that happening are sim and none, yet those are still better odds than expecting a traditional Joker in a Nolan flick. logs out again
fuck harley quinn and the cartoon she rode in on by wolvenom	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:01:46 AM
god damn you fanboys and your obsession with that stupid 90's batman cartoon.
Heath Ledger working at Sherwin Williams? by TimBenzedrine	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:03:51 AM
I think I bought paint from this guy. If this is supposed to be the Joker,they really need to try again.The guy looks like he's pulled too many all-nighters. They shouldn't try for realism here,it's the fuckin' JOKER, his appearance should terrify his victims.
If Batman Begins Didn't Earn Nolan Some Trust... by Sean38	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:04:08 AM
...then there's simply NO satisfying you people. You can't pronounce gloom and doom based on an out of context pre-production makeup test. Nolan KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK on Batman Begins. He's NOT going to fuck this up. Have some faith.
The scarrings a good idea by jimmy_009	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:11:02 AM
it's heath ledger that was the shit idea. Tim Roth was gold. Too bad they blew that one.
Some things I'd like to see in 'The Dark Knight' by wolvenom	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:11:06 AM
Joker shooting Gordon's daughter (aka batgirl) in the back from "the killing joke" (cause it would showcase his disregard for innocent human life, and showcase Gary Oldman's awesome acting ability that we all know he has) Joker's origin story as the redhood as told in "The Killing Joke" (cause it would showcase heath ledger's acting ability to go from someone we can empathize with to making stupid decisions and spiraling out of control into insanity... losing his family etc) ... Basically make the fucking 'killing joke' into a movie. That's how i want the dark knight.
If he has a mental transformation beyond this look... by JDanielP	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:13:40 AM
...where he goes from being an especially dark introvert to completely absorbing his look, becoming his own entertainer, a clown who makes himself cackle with laughter even as he becomes homicidal, ...then this could be something really special to witness on screen. If this is the look that he begins with and the character transforms BOTH in physical and mental terms, ...wow, I could REALLY dig that. Just imagine it. Imagine how the character could be more... internal, more of an introvert, yet has enough of a mental breakdown that it forces an epiphany for the character, as to who this "Joker" is, transforming him into this homicidal showman. I LOVE it! Imagine him making the physical transformation, painting his face white and coloring those cheek scars ruby red to blend in with his lipstick. He dresses himself like he's going to a high society prom though in the vibrant colors we know the character to wear. He goes from grunge... to classy but colorful. Awesome. Just awesome. Anything less and I'll be disappointed. Heck, ...maybe in this mental breakdown, he decides to trace his cheek-scars with a stolen scalpel, separating his cheeks in a way that makes this character more terrifying than we've ever known him to be. Whatever the case, count me interested.
Nolan rules cause he paid attention to the comic books. by wolvenom	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:14:45 AM
If he fucking leaves out the awesomeness of 'killing joke' in a joker movie ill be sadly disappointed and upset. I mean that comic is full of gold for actors chops. Gordon's daughter getting shot in the back showcasing gary oldman's acting techniques and ledger's. the jokers origin in that book is so much easier to empathize with and we can almost see why someone would go so nutso after that origin.
so... by SylarTheCylon	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:16:08 AM
this is the guy before the makeup is applied right? wtf nolan, if this is true... it might work. But only if they cgi his mouth like the blade 2 villains
Ichi Joker by Cobbio	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:19:00 AM
I think Heath (if the photo is real) looks good as a scarred and creepy Joker. After seeing "Ichi the Killer," I honestly wouldn't mind that film influencing Joker's appearance a bit. Because Ichi was fucked up and sadistic in disturbing ways, characteristics I wouldn't mind seeing Joker encompass in his performance. An Ichi Joker would creep people out beyond words, creating a formidable and sadistic enemy for The Dark Knight. This is all speculation on my part, of course, but I'd love to see a truly deranged psychopath villain mix it up with Batman. Whatever happens, I have faith in Nolan.
Harley certainly does NOT belong in this movie by CarmillaVonDoom	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:23:20 AM
She wouldn't fit in this universe; I highly doubt it will happen. First female character will be Catwoman in the next movie. Batman: The Animated Series is SO SOOO much better than Burton's shitfest however!!!
looks like Matt Levin by johnnyjlawless	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:26:00 AM
from dodgeball and blades of glory.
WAY WAY WAY disappointed. Not a good idea. Terrible. by riskebiz	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:26:56 AM
Well, at one point I was really excited about seeing the Joker in this sequel, but that is now gone. I don't know what they were thinking, but that is a complete misfire in judgement. The Crow look is NOT the Joker. Hell, even the Crow had whiter makeup. I guess that's the issue, it doesn't look like The Joker. It looks like one of the bad makeup jobs you see some idiot put together on the fly for a Halloween party. There always is one in the bunch. What a terrible concept. Very very disappointed. I hope it's not too late for them to change it.
STFU about Killing Joke already!!! by CarmillaVonDoom	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:28:39 AM
This book is not the end-all-be-all of Batman stories. This character has over 65 years of history!! "Killing Joke" is in many ways an ELSEWORLDS tale....why they merged it into continuity is anyone's guess. Cripping Babs sucked ASS...real "shocking" stuff. (But the Gordon character development was a welcome touch I admit)
Cobbio: that would be a Kakihara Joker by supermarch	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:29:23 AM
Ichi was the kid. Kakihara was the sadomasochist gangster.
Its all in the eyes . . . and fingers by TheBigChill	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:30:15 AM
This isn't Ledger. Ledger has brown eyes, this guy in the photo has blue. Sure he could be wearing contacts, but The Joker isn't defined by his eye color. If he was, they would have cast someone different. They also wouldn't have had rumors with about fourteen other guys that have brown eyes if it was so important that the character have blue eyes. Second, if you look close enough at the fingers, you'll see that it appears as though there are six, which is pointed out multiple times. Heath doesn't have six fingers on his right hand so . . . yeah, another problem there. That said, I'm fully aware of Nolan's concept of trying to make all of the characters in the Batman universe a little more human, to make them real instead of outstandingly cartoonish. So I like this concept idea that the makeup is the starting point of some sort of physical and psychological transformation, then I'm all for the image that we have been fed to be applied to Ledger's face. I think Nolan would be very naive to think that he could get away with Ledger not wearing the grin in the movie. I'm all for making the characters more human, but the grin of The Joker is one of the most famous images in comic book lore. Please don't ruin it.
Apparently, I'm alone here. by 7pointedstar	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:35:46 AM
I keep reading all of this stuff - some Red Hood here, some Harley Quinn here...and it's making me sick. If I want to see the Red Hood origin story, I'll read the Killing Joke. The Joker has many origins, and - to be perfectly honest - I don't want to see any of them in this movie. If Nolan provides him with an origin, I'd like it to be different. But, personally, I'd rather he not have one at all. I'd rather the audience just accept that this guy is seriously fucked up and watch the movie. Let's look at Batman Begins: Ra's Al Ghul - little to no origin mentioned in the movie. He mentions a wife who was murdered some time ago. No allusions to the possibility of immortality. No real ties to comic incarnation. But the personality...was spot-on. Scarecrow - No real backstory there either. You know that Dr. Jonathan Crane is the head of Arkham Asylum (definitely an elevation from his status as a lowly professor in the comics). You know that he developed a fear toxin, though you really don't know why. But the performance...was all Crane. He was creepy. He was even somewhat witty. It was great. So why is everyone in an uproar over a damn picture? If the Joker looks like Ichi the Crow in this movie, I don't care. It all hinges on Ledger. If he can pull off the personality, the rest of it doesn't matter. At all. And please, for fuck's sake, forget about putting Harley Quinn in these movies. She's far too campy and cartoony. Even if she WAS in this series, she wouldn't be in this movie. The Joker has to be caught and committed first. She wouldn't show up until much later on. But I hope she never shows up at all. I love the character...but she has no place in these movies.
STFU About "Six Fingers"!!! by Thunderbolt Ross	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:40:29 AM
It's his palm for God's sake
Looks good, but wait till you see him smiling... by Rindain	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:40:31 AM
Joker is 40% makerup, 60% performance. This makeup + Ledger acting batshit insane = awesome.
Not impressed at all by deadboy1313	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:43:08 AM
It does look like the Crow, and there is NO evil grin. Hopefully this is just a test shot. I still think Denis Leary would have made a great psychotic Joker!
Since when is comic-booky bad? by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:43:41 AM
We all know that a guy wouldn't dress up as a bat, we know that an immortal zealot from the far east wouldn't make an elaborate plan to destroy a city with a microwave emitter, and we know that a masked man with fear gas would not ride around the streets at night on a horse. So, why the hell does the Joker, one of the most iconic characters in COMIC BOOK history, look like a pale druggie with knife scars? And why the hell do some people love it, calling it "real world"? So, Nolan HAS to be a "real world" director, huh? Batman Begins wasn't "real world"...The Prestige got a lot of flack for not being "realistic". The point is this: Nolan is quite good at directing fantasy. He is quite good at making the fantastic and the amazing SEEM realistic, but after closer scrutiny, you see it's actually not realistic at all. Nolan is a comic book fan. So, why wouldn't he make the Joker look like the comic books instead of these Photoshopped pictures that Quint keeps putting up on AICN like it's important news?
THIS YEAR'S PENNYWISE THE CLOWN!!! by Err	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:46:25 AM
Awesome!
To 7pointedstar... by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:50:20 AM
This is Batman, not "Nolan's Realistic Non-Campy Vision of Batman Rated R". The point is...a good director makes a movie good regardless of how much he has to suspend your disbelief. Nolan is a great director, so how much more so do you think he could handle every aspect of the Batman comics...the realistic and the not-so-realistic? People are just so scared of the previous Batman incarnations that they want this to be as far from those as possible. This isn't Nolan's Batman. This isn't Burton's Batman. This is "Comic Book Batman", and I'm glad Nolan chose to go that route instead of making it his OWN movie.
Why dont they respect the source material!!!!! by CaptGrogan	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:50:22 AM
sigh. I dont get it. The joker's physical disfigurement is that his skin and hair have been made white and green respectively. The whole "scarred into a permanent grin" thing is NOT part of the continuity and was a cheap gimmick invented in Burton's movie because Nicholson was too old and fat to give a convincing Joker grin. (20 yrs earlier - sure - "heeeres johnny" and all that" The menace of the joker isnt his look. He should be tall - rail thin and evilly insane - murderous. But the ear to ear "grinscar" has got to go. Please - drop the rubber batsuit, the scarred joker and any other Burton-invented crap and make your own movie. THe first film in this franchise was a darn good reboot (save for the costume imho. But unlike, say, the Superman franchise, where they are paying homage - this particular bit with the face is just too damn distracting. Of course - its probably way too late to change it now - damn.
For fuck's sake deadboy by smallfry	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:51:14 AM
There is no evil grin because HE IS NOT GRINNING IN THIS PHOTO. It does not not mean the joker will not grin during the entire film. Of course it's a test shot - thats why he's holding a colour comparison. Unless the joker is about to beat batman to death with a giant rubik cube. Banging head on my desk
It's interesting by johnnykool	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:51:54 AM
I guess they're going for a more realistic look for The Joker. I won't say good or bad, just yet. I want to see some official final images. PS: Fuck you Harry for getting on Quint's case. It's not like you haven't posted shit that was proven false before. Back off, chubbs.
This is what he should look like by mjgo9o9	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:55:32 AM
http://www.deadwires.com/joker .php
Trust me on this, messi. by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:56:13 AM
There's no guy who dresses up like a bat and stops evildoers like zealots from the far east, asylum owners with fear gas, crazy clowns who fell into acidic materials, and mobsters who own cities. The movie is not realistic. I don't see what's so realistic about it. True...it's not like the previous Batman incarnations and their wacky or gothic portrayals of the character. But, it basically feels fresh and epic...not realistic.
If that's real, it sucks. by Insane Tiki	Apr 23rd, 2007 10:59:22 AM
It's probably a fake. I don't get the six-fingered hand thing. Bad Photoshopping? Either way, that's a real shitty Joker.
If this is real..... by TiNSeLToWN TeRRoR	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:00:56 AM
how come they haven't pulled it off the site yet? If it stays up its fake.
Are all the people who "like" this studio plants? by riskebiz	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:01:36 AM
It's not the look of the Joker. Period. Nolan has done a superb job up till now ... but this is one that is going to negate it all. What a bad judgement call if this is what he thinks the Joker should look like. Suddenly, realism in the Batman films is taken too far and ruins the point. I want the Joker to look like the FRIGGIN' JOKER. Not some moron with a lame makeup job trying to look like the Joker at some Halloween party.
We'll know by this time tomorrow if it's fake or not.. by smallfry	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:03:02 AM
..if Warners have asked for it to be taken down.
Shame on you, Quint. by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:04:36 AM
This is a photoshop, both this and the last picture. You still believe that last picture to be genuine? I saw that last picture two weeks ago on another board. And this picture...fake like the other one. Just stop posting "Joker" pics until we can see his face on the official "Dark Knight" website, would you, Quint?
I have faith in Nolan! by jojo-pimp	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:05:02 AM
I dont care how the damn Joker looks on a picture some fanboy or studie person got a hold of. If this is the final look, so be it, if not, who cares!!! Nolan is still going to make an incredible film with what may be one of the most intense versions of the Joker we have seen!
He looks like a "Carver" victim from Nip/Tuck. by riskebiz	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:07:16 AM
I suppose the grins he puts on his victims will be identical to the Carver on Nip/Tuck, too ... instead of Joker venom? Well, all this stupid Joker has to do is go see McNamara and Troy and they can fix that scarring.
Montecristo by smallfry	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:09:41 AM
What makes you so sure this is photoshop? Not saying that it's not, just curious.
About the Joker...... by Jobacca	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:09:45 AM
He's supposed to have scars. Dude was dipped in ACID! If anything,he should look like a scarred-up acid dipped goblin. My problem with this makeup test is,its just not extreme enough. Even with the mouth scars,it still loos too much like Heath Ledger. Someone needs to go all Lon Chaney on his ass and let him get lost in the makeup. I agree that the Joker in Dead End is probably the best real life representation done yet.
MonteCristo by 7pointedstar	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:10:40 AM
Did you read my post at all? Or did you just decide that I don't like comics and want a "realistic" Batman? I'm a comic fan. I've been collecting since I was a child, and I have more than my fair share of comic boxes around the apartment. Over half of them are Batman titles or Batman-related titles. I've been a fan since I was five years old. Just a little background. Nolan and Goyer reinvented the concept of a Batman movie with Batman Begins. They figured out that a movie can be made that stays true to the spirit of the character while making a few tweaks here and there to the established story. Why were the tweaks made? So it would make more sense...so it would be more believable. In a sense, you're right. This isn't Nolan's Batman. It's really Goyer's Batman. He wrote it. But that's really inconsequential, to be honest. My main point is...the movie Batman will NEVER be the same as the comic book Batman. And he shouldn't be. What works in one medium wouldn't necessarily work in another. Case in point: the black and grey suit. Everyone wants the black and grey suit. Most people want a fabric version of it. But I doubt it will happen. We'll get something close in this next movie, if sources are to be believed, but nothing will ever be good enough for the diehard "we want fabric" fanboys. You want a fabric suit? Go find Adam West. I love the character of the Batman. Moreso than you are apparently giving me credit for. But I know what I want to see on-screen. And an exact word-for-word panel-for-panel translation isn't it. Why even make it into a movie? Like I said in my last post, if I want to see the Killing Joke, I'll read it. It's on my bookshelf. And I agree with what wolvenom was saying earlier...please, for the love of God, will everyone stop referencing Batman: Dead End? It was a nice little 8-minute movie. Not the end-all-be-all Batman film. Jesus...it really wasn't that great. And the Joker in it was laughable. Some guy with bad teeth doing his worst Mark Hamill impersonation. If I had to choose between that guy and a slit-mouthed Heath Ledger, Ledger wins by landslide.
Batman Begins wasn't as good as you remember by Insane Tiki	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:11:23 AM
Go ahead, watch it again. "I'M BATMAN. Nice coat." Give me a break.
To 7pointedstar, messi, and smallfry... by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:25:16 AM
To 7pointedstar, you said that you didn't care if the Joker looked like "Ichi the Killer" as long as his personality was downpat. In the world of comic books, a person's personality and the way they look are intertwined. Comics are a purely visual medium. I 'm not saying I want "The Killing Joke" or "Batman: Dead End" to be the definitive representation of what the Joker is in this movie simply because the Joker is far more than that. You also said you didn't want Harley Quinn because she has "no place in these movies" because she's too "campy". If Nolan is doing Batman, he can do Harley. If Nolan is adapting the comic books, he can transfer the unrealistic parts to screen as well as the realistic. Hell, he did it in Begins. Messi, you said "Begins" is realistic and then went on to name the exact same things that made it unrealistic. "Batman Begins" is NOT realistic. It is epic and a breath of fresh air for Batman fans, but if there's one thing it's not, it's NOT realistic. It has nothing to do with the mentality of characters, and if you can't realize that, that makes you fucking stupid. To smallfry, it's because I saw the previous pic that Quint still believes to be genuine on a board where people were supposed to present their best Photoshops two weeks ago. This is damn near identical. It's Photoshopped.
Should Be A Real-World Punk-Rock Punk by CaptDanielRoe	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:31:27 AM
The real-world Gothams have real-world punks with green hair and violent attitudes; for the past two generations. Yes... As far as I know the Joker has never strongly reflected this. Why not?
Scary... by JDanielP	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:33:58 AM
http://static.flickr.com/12/19 015459_0302cbf754_o.jpg
Re: supermarch by Cobbio	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:35:36 AM
You're right. Ichi was the kid, Kakihara was the sadistic gangster. I meant to write Kakihara. Thanks.
FUCK THIS FUCKING EMO JOKER by mish87	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:37:58 AM
Goddamnit dude, it's an insult to everyone everywhere including the whole batman franchise. Batman movies DON'T NEED ANOTHER FUCKING JOKER! GRRR ARRGH! Jack Nicholson as Joker FOREVER and EVER!
This Joker has to be a Catalyst by liljuniorbrown	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:39:18 AM
He has to be what sends Batman into an over the edge frenzy. Batman/Wayne might be wondering if what he's doing is even making a difference, I mean mob bosses get out of prison eventualy and judges let criminals go all the time. The Joker is a whole different story, the Joker is the reason Batman can never rest,he has to be protrayed as maniacal,pure evil, kind of like Mr. Blonde from Resevoir Dogs. I just think this Joker should leave no doubts as to who he is or what he's doing and above all please DO NOT KILL OFF THE JOKER AT THE END OF THIS FLICK, PLEASE!!!!!! We need some ongoing conflict. Plain and simple we need an Ultraviolent Joker so that we can see why he's Batmans archnemisis.
"Fucking stupid" is pretty overused by now, isn't it? by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:41:49 AM
Messi, the fact is "Children of Men" is nowhere near the fantasy of Batman Begins. "Children of Men" is a realistic sci-fi picture. It's almost like a "What if we could no longer give birth?" I'm not saying that Begins isn't realistic because we don't have these characters in the world although that's a big part of it. Begins is not realistic simply for the fact that it is Batman and also because it never looked realistic...it just differed from what previous Batman incarnations have given us by staying closer to the source material. None of the characters in Begins act realistically. NONE OF THEM. It's fantastical and epic, but it FEELS realistic enough to get you to care about the characters moreso than the other films. The situations and things are what make movies realistic. BUT you're 0-2 because the characters don't act realistic and it's just as fantastic as the comics. Sorry, but I've read your shit and I think you should just put it back where it came from.
Google.com - click "images", type in Dave McKean Joker by JDanielP	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:41:53 AM
If this Joker traces his cheek-scars with a sharp blade, we might see something a bit closer to Dave McKean's painted vision of the Joker. And that's not a bad thing.
Jack Nicholson's Joker sucked. by Err	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:42:54 AM
Mark Hamill, although never inhabiting a costume, was the best version of the Joker in media. Cesar Romero was a joke. Jack Nicholson's perma-smile wasn't the joke-cracking and at the same time homicidal Joker everyone has fallen in love with. Jack Nicholson didn't have the voice for the Joker either. So quit saying Jack Nicholson is the best Joker. Nicholson was okay for Burton's film but doesn't fit the general Joker mold that everyone loves. Cesar Romero's Joker fit the 60s campy Batman but didn't fit the mold that everyone loves. Mark Hamill's Joker fit the BATMAN TAS and is the closest to actually being what he should be. So don't say Nicholson's Joker is the best. He isn't.
Does Heath Ledger only own one t-shirt? by The Grey Ghost	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:43:34 AM
When The Dark Knight casting sides were leaked on some message board on Super Hero Hype, Warner Brothers took them down in a matter of hours. It has now been almost twelve hours since Quint posted this - on one of the most popular movies sites on the internet, mind you - and they've yet to say "boo." But hey, maybe. His look here, for better or worse, does sort of mesh with the script samples seen in the sides (ie, people who have seen his face being traumatized afterwards). Hmm
If you honestly like this look by Immortal_Fish	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:45:44 AM
Then you had no problem with how Wes Bentley looked as Blackheart in Ghost Rider. Personally, I'm not thrilled with this. Yet, it's nothing I didn't expect given what they did to the Scarecrow. Joe business guy compleat with glasses, carrying a burlap sack in a briefcase.
Ichi the Joker gotta' eat! by Shabbadoo	Apr 23rd, 2007 11:54:05 AM
Now when's Harry gonna' swoop in and take a dump all over this? You're not gonna' get any more fans by calling out two of your top site managers, big man.
Cutting the face sucks. by superninja	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:01:25 PM
The Joker is suave and insane, he is a dapper fellow, joyful in his own insane way. He would never do that. Is that the best you Po-Mos can do?
HAHAHA by jinnjab	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:04:12 PM
Batman Begins the greatest comic book movie of all time?? That makes me want to laugh like the Joker...
Some crybabies need some diapees by Fecal Debris	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:05:28 PM
Lots of widdle babies here crying and pooping in their poopy diapees need to go potty on the toity it's a TEST SHOT
Theory by Itblowstherobot	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:05:59 PM
This is going to include spoilers for The Killing Joke and a theory about the Dark Knight, so be warned. I've heard a set report where Ledger was wearing a clown mask. Now, I have to say that this is totally out of my head and a theory. I think that Ledger is the Joker BEFORE the accident (remember the end of Begins?) and that explains the mask. We've heard that the Killing Joke is a big influence, and I think that there's going to be a rotating leader like in The Killing Joke and it happens to be Ledger when they break into the chemical factory, and that's when he gets the skin bleaching. The bleaching and green hair sends him over the edge and he scars himself
Nicholson was mostly playing himself in the Joker by superninja	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:11:48 PM
costume. I still think Hammil's Joker is the most superior. He's very funny but can also be extremely dark, however it's not so obvious as looking like a cutter goth throwback with greasy hair. Mr. J should have some style, ya know.
Messi by jinnjab	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:12:34 PM
no
How the Joker will come to be... by Err	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:13:23 PM
Ledger (non Joker form) commits crimes with a clown mask on. He leaves behind a Joker card. He goes to a chemical plant, faces Batman, falls into the acid with the mask on. He pulls the mask off and is scarred and takes on the very visage of his mask.
maybe his cheeks will open like in Pan's Labyrinth by pipergates	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:14:43 PM
when he smiles.that scene of the facist being scarfaced was so well done.it would look super creepy on the joker.
Pan's Labyrinth... by Err	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:15:35 PM
I also thought the guy looks like the Joker with the cut mouth. it was very well done.
Who would follow a Joker that looked like he didn't by superninja	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:15:45 PM
have his crap together? This test shot says heeeenchmaaaaan! The Joker likes an audience, he looks neat and presentable, the polish is an interesting contrast against his insanity. This is just more faux realism.
Shawn Edwards says: by Frijole	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:16:55 PM
"Move over, Jack! There's a new Joker in town!"
Messi Pt.2 by jinnjab	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:17:03 PM
I'm am fulfilling the point of these message boards, to add an opinion. If you don't like it, too bad. Oh yeah, and go get yourself some manners and spelling lessons...
I still prefer the origin of the down-on-his luck guy by superninja	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:19:24 PM
who gets in way over his head and to make some money throws in with some thugs. He has a major psychotic break when he's dropped in a vat of chemicals and blames it all on Batman. A new personality emerges. It's about how mundane evil is and the power of self-creation. He is Batman's opposite, Batman had a personal trauma and went in the opposite direction.
This may be one of several different tests by performingmonkey	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:21:22 PM
But then again, we always seem to be kidding ourselves with these sort of things, saying 'it isn't real' and then it ends up being 100% real and we have to endure the shitness. But I believe Nolan will make ANY version of the Joker look work. They should go hard R and have The Joker cut his own face onscreen.
agreed, obviously an in-process makeup test by oisin5199	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:21:28 PM
and I don't even think that's Ledger. This is the problem with our spoiler culture. People make snap judgements based on unfinished material and condemn a film before it's even done shooting. Then again, without the spoiler culture, this site wouldn't exist. To add my 2 cents to various debates going on. I believe they did reference immortality in the first film, but it was about immortality through legend, and other people 'becoming' R'as. That's not to say that aspect won't come up later - as I think that storyline isn't done. I bet we'll see Talia at some point. Also, they're NOT going to have Joker shoot Barbara Gordon, unless they jump 20 years or so, or the Joker shoots a baby. Gordon's daughter would only be a toddler in this second film. But maybe they'll evoke that story if the Joker goes after Rachel Dawes. And, oh yeah, I can't wait for this fucking film! The Crow blew and would have been totally forgotten if it hadn't been for Lee's death. It was a ripoff of Batman anyway.
Hell, the movie was a Batman movie for Spider-Man fans. by MonteCristo	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:23:26 PM
No, but the thing is "Batman Begins" took everything that's good about modern comic book movies and applied them to this movie.
2nd one is 100% fake. by The Wheres	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:27:31 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node /32380 is a fake. Its from somewhere else with photoshop done on it. Its is mostlikey a photoshop makeup test. Mostly done to show ideas before they have new photos or the actor themself there for make up tests. Ive see this same picture on Superherohype where someone did a photoshop to it. Its not a real photo of the Joker. The other one is in the air. But the crow scaring looks photoshopped to me. But its all still rumor. He is the one superherohype forum pic I have seen. http://www.superherohype.com/f orums/showthread.php?t=201206& page=260
Well, thats it for Dark knight then by BendersShinyAss	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:29:23 PM
Here I was living in hope that batman begins was going to be a one off miss. Yes I know I'm in the minority, but c'mon. Batman doesn't belong in the real world, he belongs in an unreal world
It's not that bad, honestly by Lost Prophet	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:30:10 PM
seriously, it really isn't that bad- just kind of, well, meh.
BendersShinyAss by Err	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:31:39 PM
The unreal world doomed him. The unreal world of Schumacher doomed this franchise for about a decade.
Messi Pt.3 by jinnjab	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:32:56 PM
"Retarded"? It would be completely insane to think that Batman Begins was the greatest comic book film ever. Even C. Nolan doesn't think so (see the DVD). It was slow, dull, had no interesting plot or mystery to uncover, wooden, sullen characters (other than Micheal Caine), hammy dialogue, terrible one-liners, awful action scenes, clunky editing, and above all awful costume design. I'm sorry but if a dude went out in my neighborhood in that outfit, his ass would get owned and quick... Did you honestly feel like you knew or cared what anyone was going through in that story? Or was it just enough to sate your appetite and so you are satisfied? They haven't gotten it right yet at all and probably never will because all they care about is making money.
in other superhero NEWS:the movie MAGNETO will be... by future help	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:35:15 PM
directed by Children of Men Director Alfonso Cuaron. GREAT!!!!
has anyone realized... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:35:26 PM
...that everyone keeps callin Joker Ichi the Killer, but Ichi didnt even have those scars...unless somehow youre referrin to the fact that Joker likes to ejaculate on plants and have his name come up (no pun) in the jizz...craziest movie opener ever...
jinjab... by Err	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:36:52 PM
While I agree that Begins is not the best comic book film. It was not as horrible as you make it out to be. The worst part of Begins belonged to Katie Holmes. She seemed somewhat out of place and I was none to thrilled with the burning down of Wayne Manor but it was still a good film.
Okay, they've officially KILLED this sequel... by TheGhostWhoLurks	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:40:27 PM
If THIS is the concept for the Joker they plan on using! IT SUCKS!!! Doesn't LOOK like him in any way, other than the green hair and white face. As everyone else has said, it's simply a third-rate rip-off of Ichi the Killer and The Crow!!! I pray this is a fake and AICN has been fooled. Because if THIS is what the Joker's going to look like, with a crappy actor like Ledger — whose only "successful" role was playing a gay sheepherder — playing this important role, than I'm simply going to save my money and watch some other film. Weak, uncreative CRAP like THIS should've been left behind with Joel Schumacher and the Bat-Skates! But apparently, his curse lives on... >:(
my only complaint so far... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:42:27 PM
...is that in the end of Begins, they said Joker only killed 2 people...I felt that it was messed up to have my favorite comic book character ever, to only have 2 kills...this movie better show me the super-crazy, psychotic, evil genius that Ive grown to love (and idolize)...
I don't know about Begins being the best comic movie by Lost Prophet	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:42:37 PM
ever, but it has to be in with a shout at the top 5. No, it wasn't perfect but it was still a fine effort at erasing the dismal shit of the two previous efforts. wait till we see the full make up- this looks only half complete at the moment, I bet he will be much whiter with less visible scars.
err by jinnjab	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:44:19 PM
Good film, uh, maybe (very hesitant), but for the character of Batman only the best portrayal will do, that's just me and my retardedness talking. I've just been following this for awhile and hear that opinion so much that I am sick of it. I mean are we not the fans? Should we not expect the best possible representation for our beloved characters? I think so. I respect Nolan as a filmmaker greatly and some of his ideas are on the right track, but he is wrong for this project the way that Ang Lee was wrong for the Hulk.
re: theghostwholurks by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:45:12 PM
...ok, you said the Joker doesnt look like the Joker, despite havin white skin and green hair...that doesnt make sense...are you looking for a super elongated smile and a flower that shoots acid or somethin?...
I just got off the phone with the land of fakes... by Alonzo Mosely	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:46:55 PM
They want to know why they have been wasting time putting pictures on milk cartons when things go missing, when they now know they can just come collect them from AICN... I am not 100% this is a fake, although that is my gut reaction, I just wanted to resurrect the "I just got off the phone" line...
Ok I just tried to watch Batman Begins. Again! by BendersShinyAss	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:47:19 PM
It's gay! Tough guy bale ending his conversation by throwing the bat ninja star. It's gay. Bale as bruce wayne. gay. Katie homes "Thats right you better run" How gay was that?? Just looking at Bale dressed up as batman. Why?? I just don't like this incarnation. sorry. And I have no problem with Gay either, well actually I do, but you do what you like. just don't talk to me about fumes
Impatient Mob!!! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:53:59 PM
There is entirely too much premature ejaculation happening over this picture. What a bunch of ninnies! Wait for an official studio photo before you start running your collective mouth off about how this "make-up test shot" has killed this sequel.
"The joker's dead ...the bat's have left the belltower" by Rearden	Apr 23rd, 2007 12:54:16 PM
I'm really open to change in adaptation and redesign (no problems with Transformers or anything else) but this really is not doing anything for me. I actually have to agree with some of the haters. very Crow-ish.

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