Kirsten melady, thou dost flatter thyself much methinks. Getest over thyself.

Kidding.

Frankly, I've always hoped Spidey would be a three-and-out franchise. And everything I've heard about this third film indicates that it would be a helluva note to go out on.

I think Sam is an infinitely better director for The Hobbit than Jackson (and I love Jacksons Rings movies, so don't call me a hater). I just think he has an understanding of what that book is that Jackson has not demonstrated at all in his discussions of how he'd handle it.

As for Dunst, wow...she thinks an awful lot of herself, huh?

Look at what they (Marvel) are doing with the Hulk franchise. Flushing everything and (apparently) starting over. I'd hate to see that happen to Spidey, but it's not like the suits haven't demonstrated the willingness and the capacity.

Two. Wait a few years and start again, make a new version with different sensibilities, a different angle. New actors, new look etc. Thats what they do in comics, have several versions of each franchise running, trying different ways of doing the same thing. I love Rami's vision but that doesn't mean another director couldn't create something compleatly different and equal.

It's the same as the way i feel about re-makes, i welcome different artists creating works on the same idea, each one defined by the time in which it is made. We never complain that people still put on new productions of Shakespear's work or that a lot of artists paint similar things. The basic story line or concept of a film is simply a skeleton on which a thousand different ideas can be built.

But not this run, he should be the start of a new Spidey franchise, he's too different from Maguire.

Levitt should be a cooler Parker, one who is a bit reckless and likes to have fun.

LOTR did and it needed that, and seeing as The Hobbit is essentially a story about the loss of innocence , it needs that weightiness. I just don't see that Raimi has that in him.

If they started doing this then maybe hollywood would realise they could have succesful movies without trying to drain every last drop out of the same talent until they ruin it.

I'd love to see a new actor try Spidey every few years.

"It would be a flop without me"? I got news for you, sweetheart, there's a whole shitload of fans out here who NEVER thought you should have been cast in the first place and who think YOU are one of the few bad things in the films to date, since MJ was always supposed to be an uber HOT looking girl...which, frankly, you are not. So going on without you and recasting MJ would actually be a cause for celebration!

If this was a studio controlled picture we'd have Fantastic 4 instead the studio took a risk, let Rami include depth, characterization and real heart at the risk of turning off younger viewers who can't sit for more than 5 mins woithout an explosion.

If your girlfriend asks such obvious questions I hate to think what she'd be like watching The Terminator or something... "Is Arnie supposed to be a robot?'

The reason why it is good to have Parker as a bit of a geek is that it makes him more relatable to. Most of us are cooler than him and it allows us to see things from his level and makes his alter ego more of a juxtaposition.

i admit i would be kinda sad to see Raimi go for a couple of reasons. 1. he has proven he knows his shit and makes these films a lot of fun. 2. i personally have always loved his style and that hospital scene in SM2 just reminded me of why i was happy he got the gig in the first place. 3. whp the fuck knows what could happen with a new director. i mean, we could have another joel schumacher step in or a McG. lord help us if Singe gets it...spidey will keep the black costume and it will inexplicibley have a ballgag in the mouth.

or

Christina Hendricks

or

Jewel Straite

(sp?)

Whatever. Brilliant casting guys. I always loved Silver Sable. Badass chick.

I would love to see Lizard and Kraven in the next one. I actually really thought they were going to do more with Conners in 2 leading up to Lizard in 3. Oh well.

I too love the team up idea. Crossover or whatever. It could work well and could be done right.

As far as the dating of one's digits, all these guys putting her down couldn't get a woman who looks half as good as K.D. does. Sometimes the anonynimity these TB's provide bring the bullsh*t in people.

I gotta go ahead and disagree though, I think K.D. has a certain appeal. She may not be supermodel hot but she's alright.

Tobey was one of the good fits for Parker and Spidey, I'll give 'em that, then Franco for Osborne, I don't think they could of chose a better actor, Same for Molina as Doc Oc, and Dafoe for Goblin (should've kicked the Goblin suit right off the set but the actor choice was good). Heck Harris is great has aunt May, and Haden Church and Topher Grace will need to pull their respective roles in the next chapter, but I can see why they were cast.

Dunst is the one choice I’m looking at and saying to myself “This ain’t no girl that will turn heads walking down the streets… That ain’t no Mary Jane!”

If anyone one of the cast members needs to sit the next couple of films out, it’s her.

Sony can replace anyone anyways and make a profit of the next movie. Like a lot of people said, Jake G could be a good choice, or I’m even thinking that if they go for a little more bulk and an older 30ish look to Peter, Jamie Bamber from Battlestar Galactica has that look that could make Peter a little older than the College years. They could move forward a couple of years on the character with this guy. But that’s just a personal thought on the Peter Parker Subjects.

Dunst, hell about any 6 out of 10 stars redhead actress could fill in and make the character more attractive that those weird teeth and that crocked eye of hers that just screams out when your sitting there trying to watch the damn movie.

Raimi did thing to the characters that a lot of people didn’t like, the organic web just to mention one. But he still did a decent job in some of the character’s traits. Yet he too could easily be replaced by another director, Sony has a bunch of them on stand-by for a franchise like this. Who would’nt want to go for a billion dollar franchise that can’t go wrong, unless you change the color of the costume, take away the spidey emblems on his back, make him disappear for 7 years and then make him a voyeur spying on his ex-girlfriend that had a kid with him that she just loves to put in the middle of dangerous situations and a bunch of shitty things like that. No, they’ll leave that for other franchises. I think Stan Lee’s approval of the Raimi changes was a good choice. They didn’t go way off, so anyone coming in this project doesn’t need to re-invent the wheel to make the franchise good. They just need to continue what is already in play.

Hulk is getting a facelift so they don’t need to continue the dramatically incorrect portrayals of the character by making the Hulk a gene defect in Bruce, or his father being the same way or all those little things that just didn’t make it a great movie. They know that it need to be done from the start all over again and I’m guessing they didn’t like that.

WB are basically sleeping at the wheel. For a movie that should’ve beaten Spidey’s opening record they barely got their money back, and they still approve of Singer for the next one.. One that I won’t be making the same mistake, I won’t be buying the 10$ ticket this time around.

Spidey only needs to move forward. Whether Tobey will be asking way too much money, or that my wishes of Dunst being unable to continue with the series or Raimi jumping aboard the biggest walking franchise in history and not coming to do one more, I’ll be there buying the next 10$ ticket. I’m betting Sony or Marvel will not give this to a Director that could potentially kill it like Joel Schumacher did for the Batman franchise, which was still sorta working even after the whole Penguin story. Schumi just blew it apart, and I’m betting Marvel isn’t about to that to Spidey.

http://www.amazon.com/Spider-M an-Human-Torch-Im-Stupid/dp/07 85117237/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5 667876-5849601?ie=UTF8&s=books &qid=1176788244&sr=8-1

Ashton Kutcher as Spider-Man!

Hilary Duff as Mary Jane!!

Adam Sandler as Rhino!!!

All, of course, directed by those ADD-addled buffoons who made Crank.

This is the future of the Spider-Man series. Bring on the Spider-Bike!

I would be curious as to how Sam would do the Hobbit, though I would prefer a Spidey 4 by him instead.

Superninja is right, can we please have an end to existential angst and sympathetic, conflicted villains who are only evil because of some other force?

IF Jackson is going to be replaced then I can think of few people better suited than Raimi, save perhaps Cuaron or Del Toro.

However, best all round result is that New Line fuck it up and the rights revert to someone who will let Jackson build on his original trilogy, and give us a Hobbit for grownups, no a twee kids story. Tolkien himself wanted to go back and rewrite it in a style more suited to LOTR, so I see no problem in Jackson doing it that way either.

And Ringbearer, not everyone has accepted that Jackson won't helm the Hobbit. I'll believe otherwise when I see it.

If done right, this franchise can have long legs, with completely different cast/director like you said.

You know what, a mass murder like the one that happened yesterday hits people hard. People want to make sense of it even if there's none to be made. And the media choosing to put human names and faces on the numerically ordered dead is hardly something to blast them for.

What the politicians and pundits do with something like this is their business, but don't you fucking dare trivialize the loss of these or any lives in an effort to promote your own terminally jaded and skewed view of reality.

If a Muslim had walked onto a Jewish Community Center campus and started killing kids and teachers, you can bet you'd use that to make political hay for your own cause (just like the Bush administration used 9-11 to make hay for theirs, which you happened to ensdorse strongly at the time). So don't come crying -- all holier than thou and disgusted and above it all -- just because something like this is very likely to break badly for the conservative agenda from a PR standpoint.

The sword you've been weilding -- specifically pontificating about what U.S. policy should be based on the crazy fucking actions of a few -- cuts both ways and, as you rightfully observed, that sword has gotten rather dull over the last few years, especially. But dull blades are often the most dangerous. So if I were you I'd just steer the fuck clear of this topic entirely.

Apparently the police are now treating him as a possible acomplice because he seemed to have inside information. I hope that anti-christ gets locked up.

Yet for some reason, every time he posts, people go off on diatribes and tell him that he's better off not commenting. I've got to say, people say crazy things on this site all the time, I just don't get it. I imagine it would not be well recieved if it was done to you in return.

Seriously. If that's how you really feel, then why aren't you condemning all the Bay Haters who say that "Transformers" is going to BOMB out of respect for the victims lost in various Iraq bombings every day?

Earlier, you implied that I was somehow defending DocPaz. Well, as one can clearly see, he needs no such assistance. I just happen to think you took an utterly ricockulous and miscalculated jab at someone and it needed to be addressed.

A jab or a "friendly nudge"? Take your pick, BSB. Either way, it's crass and uncalled for. How dare you inject that into the conversation in that manner?

Quite trying to be the self-righteous TB hero all the time. It's fucking lame and transparent.

But you know all about that don't you, Le POSEUR?

Also, Emeraldboy, will you please stop citing that despicable piece of gutter fluff (Empire) in almost every thread like it's fucking gospel. I'm fucking sick of their wank excuse for critical analysis, inbred journalism and general utter uselessness.

I do however, despise the mass hand wringing and gnashing of teeth that invariably happens after a tragedy. A case to note was the princess diana death- the whole public mourning shit made me vomit- I didn't particularly care, and was not alone in this. I certainly developed compassion fatigue very quickly.

This was a bit of a ham disted attempt to sit on the middle ground, sorry all.

Cheers for the MJ clarification BTW.

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As for telling you to steer clear of the topic, I did no such thing. I offered you advice based on what I, as a sensitive and intelligent person, would do in your tenuous and downright indefensible position. You were right to thank me for that (even if you were trying to be smug about it). You should've stopped there. Then maybe Doc P. wouldn't have had to pull down your pants again in front of all these people.

I'll stop condescending you when you stop being such a willfully ignorant, hypocritical asshole. Until then, I'm going to call you on it every time I see it. Cheers.

As for being an asshole, you bet I am. Being right often places one in that position. Speaking of which, I notice you forgot to put yourself on the list. If you're going to be comprehensive, don't half ass it, son.

Mr Nice Gaius = Banned

Vog From Dimension X = Banned

Mr. Mean Gaius = Banned by Moriarty for all to see.

by by = Banned in one of the finest displays of self-ownage ever seen.

Considering how you vanished into utter oblivion after that last trouncing OW4P, I pretty much figured they banned your IP address, too. But here you are...trolling again. Obsession? You personify it. I gave you advice before but you failed to heed it. So, I'll give it to you again free of charge. Are you ready?

STAY BANNED.

You have one ten-line post in which to floor me with your smarts.

Extra points if you use fewer than ten lines.

Extra extra points if you structure your intended witticism or insult in Haiku form.

But be warned: you're already going to need to show me something a little extra to make up for using any variation of "pwn" in a sentence.

Annnd go!

Here. Let me demonstrate:

An Ode to Oscar Wilde 4 Prez

Internet asshat

masturbates furiously

achieving nothing

Dunst had the same effect. I never really got the sense I was seeing Peter and MJ, just Tobey and Dunst I hadn't given it much thought but when I watch the DVD's of the movies I know often fast forward through the scenes with just those two.

Spider-Man tends to have an air of informal authority about him in the comics. Yes, he makes wisecracks, and I am not sure he always does it because he is scared. I honestly think he sees the absurdity of a lot of the situations and makes jokes. But when things get intense he can and does get serious. NOT depressed or scared or soul searching but serious and takes on the demeanor of a seasoned professional, which is what he is. In a recent Ultimate Spider-Man, Doc Ock made the comment that when Spider-Mans tops joking , that is how Ock knows he is scared. Spider-Girl answered "No that how you know he is serious" and the both knock Ock on his ass. And that version IS a kid but still acts more adult than the movie version.

I'm ready tosee that version in the movies. he jokes cause he is confident in himself, not because he is insecure. He knows what he is doing and knows he is fighting the good fight. THAT"S Spider-Man

I don't like you because I see in your posts, on very rare occasions, the capacity for reason and even a glimmer of sensitivity (usually when you're discussing the plight of Israel) which you choose to put in a bag and light on fire most of the time you post. In other words, you should fucking well know better.

The media is definitely a mad dog off the chain 95% of the time, but when it reveals details about the lives of the victims in an undeniable tragey, that is not a symptom of the problem. And that's exactly what you were harping on.

I provided examples of your hypocrisy already (as if anyone needed them (it's okay to scream about man's inhumanity to man when it justifies an invasion of a foreign nation, but not when it might lead to a re-evaluation of our nation's gun laws? And apparently it's okay to wallow in the tragic deaths of airplane passengers, World Trade Center tenants and New York Police and Firemen, but not in the senseless slaughter of more than 30 kids?). Get a grip.

As for the quote of mine you threw in my face in a desperate attempt to be right about something (anything), read it again. Particularly the words: "If I were you." Those are pretty important to the meaning of the statement, because it puts the entire thing in the context of my advice to you as someone who seems to be able to differentiate between topics he should and shouldn't be commenting on. Take it for what you will.

And if you think my having fun with a new asshat is somehow symptomatic of my having an off week, you need to learn when it's okay to lighten up and be silly. Insulting someone in Haiku for claiming he's smarter than a bunch of folks on the board is an indulgence, sure, but hardly constitutes sinking anywhere. Trying to divert attention from your own idiocy by implying that some degree of levity on my part undermines my very valid criticisms of you as a human being is just, well, desperate. Do better. Or don't try at all.

Of course they would have to move out of the teen angst or even collage age years for Peter and MJ to cast her, but I am all for that as well.

But I suppose the reason why it's AWESOME you've returned is that it at least gives everyone another chance to see you get worked over in TB. How embarrassing it must be for you to come slinking back with hollow promises of "pwnage" only to get "pwned" over and over again. You're like the most self-"pwning" troll of ALL TIME! Simply put, you should STAY BANNED because it's in your best interest. That is unless you actually enjoy getting banned...

...there is certainly nothing wrong with that.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!