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The Weinsteins to separate GRINDHOUSE here in the US?

first by adamthelegend	Apr 9th, 2007 03:01:10 PM
cant wait for grindhouse here in the uk!
I think he should have kept in the lapdance... by fractureJonze	Apr 9th, 2007 03:02:31 PM
With Kurt Russel laughing really hard the whole time.
Panic by ProfGriffin	Apr 9th, 2007 03:02:44 PM
Funny, I just posted this in Harry's Grindhouse Talkback! LOL.
Let it run 3 1/2 hours by LUZER	Apr 9th, 2007 03:02:50 PM
It's such a badass concept. Don't back down.
Dumbest idea ever by nexus420	Apr 9th, 2007 03:05:06 PM
Stupid fucking movie execs....if it was supposed to be two movies, they would have made two, not one. Releasing it Easter weekend is something a 13 year old would think was hilarious. No one has any patience anymore. I remember when movies used to be in theaters for months (even bad ones); now some are gone in a couple of weeks.
What Happened to GRINDHOUSE? by ProfGriffin	Apr 9th, 2007 03:05:09 PM
As we all know by now...Grindhouse opened very poorly, #4 behind Are we Done Yet? (Ice Cube sequel to Are we There Yet?) Meet the Robinsons (#2) and Blades of Glory (#1 for it's second week) I guess that means one of three things: The country wants lighthearted, laughter...not blood soaked exploitation over the Easter Weekend. The general public did not want to make a three hour commitment and sit through two movies. Or what I like to call the... 'Snakes on a Plane' phenomenon. Pre-release publicity, BIG HYPE...ultra cool and hip...EDGY (catch-phrases like that) are blasted at us for weeks...but when the time comes...no one goes to the theatres. This movie(s) is a great time and fun...but in the end...does NOT break new ground. (Especially to someone who wallows in Exploitation) Weinstein Co. has reportedly spent more on advertising on this film, than any in their short history. The movie's budget was 53 million, and it pulled a rather low opening weekend at 11 Mil. Are We Done Yet? beat Grindhouse.... Words fail me. Look, as a Grindhouse Guru....and lover of Double, Triple, and all-nighters in the style that you mentioned...I heartedly adore what was attempted...but the numbers speak for themselves. There is no excuse for it. Do something original, make it appealing and people will come. Blades of Glory beating Grindhouse is like, 'Skatetown U.S.A.' beating 'They Call Her One-Eye' in box-office. And you know what? We should have seen it coming. They last time I was this dissapointed in my own enthusiasm for a film was Snakes on a Place...and before that? Van Helsing (my secret shame and my crow that I ate). I now spend my days counting down to mindless summer blockbusters like Shrek 3, Spider-man 3 and Pirates of the Carribean 3. Mindless? Yes...but FUN and exciting and THRILLING and wonderful. Everything movies should be. Grindhouse will make it's money back...but not until overseas release and Home Video. A sad state of affairs. And speaking of affairs...Robert Rodriguez and Rose McGowan probably feel karma biting them on the ass right about now. Shame Shame Shame. Prof. Griffin Fangoria TV
You said it Quint by hargon27	Apr 9th, 2007 03:05:18 PM
I can see what Harvey thought, "Our only hit at Weinstein Co. has been Scary Movie 4 which came out Easter Weekend... lets do the same with Grindhouse!" Personally I am just happy to see the Weinstein company failing with box office bomb after bomb after they held the Oscars hostage for so many years by pouring money into oscar campaigns for shit films (eg. Shakespeare In Love, Chicago)
BIG MISTAKE!!! by KosherWookie	Apr 9th, 2007 03:05:20 PM
Saw this movie twice this past weekend and LOVED IT!!! It REALLY evokes the grindhouse memories, crappy prints, scratches, exploitation trailers and all! This from a veteran of the Times Square grindhouse experience at the Rialto and the Liberty back in the bad old 70s.
F the Weinsteins. by Frank The Rabbit	Apr 9th, 2007 03:05:34 PM
This is how QT and RR wanted it to be released. Besides Harvey already made double money off of us all for Kill Bill! REMEMBER?! This makes it even!
Word of mouth will help Grindhouse grow by Brendan3	Apr 9th, 2007 03:08:39 PM
This is a mistake on their part. I'm willig to bet that this coming weekend will do bigger numbers as people go back to school or work and talk about it. They need to have faith in their film and not panic. Suckass movies need to worry about opening weekend numbers. This baby's gonna snowball.
Too late by whatcokes	Apr 9th, 2007 03:11:08 PM
Honestly, I think it's too late to save either film at the box office. If they cut it in half, both movies will just flop individually. I think they should just let it run its course in theaters and worry about the dvd release. That's where, if they're smart, they'll make their money.
Its the same stupid bad release dates that kill movies by godzillasushi	Apr 9th, 2007 03:11:18 PM
Like, freaking they put out Star Trek Nemesis...what....a week before LOTR? Right? Who thought that was a good idea?!? Or releasing a movie the same weekend as Spider-man 3, geniously dumb if anyone is or would.
um by Charlie Murphy	Apr 9th, 2007 03:12:46 PM
i really don't think this would help matters AT ALL. if people weren't creaming their jeans at the thought of seeing these together, they won't rush out to see them seperately. separation will only bring up budget and make it even more of a flop.
What hurt it was the delay by Purgatori	Apr 9th, 2007 03:18:11 PM
that was due to one filmmaker in particular. Personal shit that interfeared with the films release. This was supposed to be released over 2 months ago which would have been better. Also, WTF with chopping up Death Proof so badly? I'll accept losing the freaking lap dance, but what with the whole stalking at the conveniance store? Also, why did it suddenly lose the old school crackle and age look half way through? That's stupid. Quentin, you let me down man. Planet Terror ruled your ass.
...good idea, bad idea... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 9th, 2007 03:18:56 PM
....good idea, a double feature movie by Taratino and Rodriguez...bad idea, splittin the two movies up to negate the whole idea of havin two movies by QT and RR...
WHO CARES by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:19:10 PM
That ten mill. was us. We saw it we loved it. Why do you care. These dudes will make more movies. I've been WordOfMouthing this film and some had not even herd of it. It was definitly lost in the shuffle of the big holiday weekend. THat's not all. Quint, listen man, I never went to a filled up grindhouse. Thats why. And Jesus is getting back at Tarintino for using the N word.
Im just glad the fucker got made by luckylindy	Apr 9th, 2007 03:19:48 PM
And i got to see it with friends and we had a blasty ass time before it may have gotten cut...BO returns mean dick to me...the weinsteins can do whatever the hell they want cuz they are the weinsteins...so whatever, i dont care
if i have to buy 2 separate grindhouse dvd's.... by waggy	Apr 9th, 2007 03:20:38 PM
i will personally boycott every weinstein release that doesn't have tarantino's or rodriguez's name on it. (won't be hard at all considering how quickly movies hit the net these days). guys, you tried something different and it didn't quite work. do not destroy 2 of your most important filmmakers' creative vision just to make a little money back.
Great, so here are our options... by jimmy_009	Apr 9th, 2007 03:21:09 PM
Sit through a 3 1/2 hour movie or splice it in half and make us pay double the ticket price. Either way we win right!?! I didn't see Kill Bill 2 in theaters simply because I knew it was actually one movie that I'd be paying for twice. You blew it Weinsteins, don't butcher the film just because you're too stupid to pick a good opening date. Cut your loses and remember that next time someone delivers a 3 1/2 hour movie.
Grindhouse not as good as Roundhouse by Masked Avenger	Apr 9th, 2007 03:21:12 PM
Remember that sketch comedy show from Nickelodeon, that was hilarious! I thought Grindhouse was pretty good, Planet Terror was a little disappointing while Death Proof was surprising(try sayind Death Proof 3 times fast). It also didn't do well because Are We Done Yet? Was release on Wed., adding to the fact that many kids are on Spring Break, which is why the other films did well, on top of that we probably have a small percentage of teens buying tickets to those other movies and sneaking into Grindhouse,(that's why Wild Hogs did well after 300 came out). Oddly enought, I went to see Grindhouse last night and there were two kids in the audience, one was about 8-9 and was with his dad, they left after Planet Terror, then there was a mother and her 4 year old son, they watched the entire film, no foolin', and it wasn't like she was with a date or her husband, it was just her and her infant. Wierd.
people will by sHapesHiftinLizard	Apr 9th, 2007 03:22:18 PM
feel ripped off thinking"why should i pay twice for something some other bozos paid once for, ill rent it/them" It was an 'experimental' release and now it seems it had a badly timed release, dem is da breaks. Liked Frank the rabbits point about Kill Bill, if they thought one movie should be split in 2 why did they think it would eb a good idea to put 2 into 1 when the complete KillBill and GH have roughly the same running times?
that is weird by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:23:33 PM
Masked Avenger: your assignment, kill the pet-er-ass
I don't think that would save this movie by quadrupletree	Apr 9th, 2007 03:24:00 PM
This movie was made for a very specific audience, namely people who have seen, have fond rememberences of and are fans of 70's exploitation cinema. In other words 1% of the movie going population. You can cut it into as many pieces as you want, the bad word of mouth is going to pull this thing farther down in the weeks to come no matter what they do. I respect Rodriguez and Tarantino for hanging their balls out there and putting this thing out, the worst thing they could do now is back-peddle in shame because people don't connect with it. They should be proud of it for what it is and let it run it's course. It's not a movie for everyone and was never meant to be!
how did the three hours make a difference... by pizzaparty	Apr 9th, 2007 03:24:41 PM
given that the per screen averages were so dismal anyway? also, what do people make of this story, that contemporary grindhouse-type theaters couldn't even show the film?
USE YOU ILLUSION by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:25:24 PM
you bought both of those didn't ya (place Axel Rose scream here)
gride9000 by Masked Avenger	Apr 9th, 2007 03:27:17 PM
I don't get it? What do you mean, 'kill the pet-er-ass?'
oops by pizzaparty	Apr 9th, 2007 03:28:39 PM
i tried to post an html link in my post. this story: http://www.deadlinehollywoodda ily.com/grindhouse-couldnt-get -grindhouse/
the lady treating her 4 year old like a date by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:29:15 PM
and get axel and his dolphin to help
They should give this one another weekend by Jak0lantern01	Apr 9th, 2007 03:30:09 PM
before drubbing it. Universally, the movie seemed to have positive reviews and , if the audience felt the same, it may have lags in the coming weeks. Damn, they just don't give movies a chance anymore. Perhaps they should have released this thing like a real grindhouse movie: in select markets and let it spread across the country at its own pace. They should probably go back to this method with every movie, it seems the crammed, first-weekend box office multiplex model just isn't working so well these days.
Jak0lantern01 by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:31:56 PM
thats the same attitude that kept "Cop Rock" on for two weeks
oh great, let's make death proof even LONGER... by omarthesnake	Apr 9th, 2007 03:32:43 PM
bad frickin' idea. Sure, the lap dance should be put back. the Missing Reel gag only works once, and in Planet Terror it's hysterically funny. In Death Proof it's just annoying. But if you put the scene back in, dear God, trim back some of the incessant yapping. There's twice as much dialogue in that movie as any reasonable human can tolerate. f'rinstance, the two guys scheming to get the girls drunk and agreeable is just a waste of time that goes nowhere, accomplishes nothing and isn't even that cleverly written, yet QT was so smitten with that sequence he put it in as a track on the SOUNDTRACK CD? WTFH?
Hey Whine-steins by skimn	Apr 9th, 2007 03:33:09 PM
Leave it alone. Whether people loved it, or liked it, or liked some parts of it and disliked others (see all the talkbacks), leave it the fuck alone. It was a film geek experiment, made by film geeks for film geeks. The general audience probably didn't get it, wouldn't get it, couldn't get it. Enjoy the next few weeks before the summer rush, and pick up the bucks on the 4 DVD versions you'll eventually squeeze out.
More thoughts on GRINDHOUSE by ProfGriffin	Apr 9th, 2007 03:33:48 PM
It was FUN. A celebration of those wonderful exploitation films we adore...and was made in the exact blueprint of what has come before. There are original concepts and visuals to be sure...but the GRINDHOUSE film experience (missing reels, scratchy prints, fake trailers, etc) is a gag. An extended joke and a sly wink to the audience that only 10% of the GENERAL public are getting. MOST people don't know what a Grindhouse is. It's astonishing, but if they called the film....The Drive-In or B-movie Double Feature...or something similar, people may have reacted differently. Is it a train-wreck? No I loved it, it was a FUN time...but people came to the theatres over the Easter Weekend to see something a little lighter, funnier...and not as offensive. Is it a sign of the times? How can we predict this? Usually, in times of national upheaval (war, political unrest, etc) blood-soaked horror and exploitation does well...(the 70's)...but in the excess of the 80's we had the slasher cycle that people flocked to see. I really don't know what happened here. Only that people didn't get it...and it's NOT their fault. The movie needed to be something that it wasn't. Accessable.
Let's chop Kill Bill in half! by photoboy	Apr 9th, 2007 03:33:49 PM
It worked for Kill Bill so they're probably thinking it will work here too. Plus it makes it easier for them to sell 2 DVDs (or even 3 DVDs if you want both separate films and the combined cut). Personally I think it's a shit idea, but I'm still waiting for that recut of Kill Bill that makes it all one film. What ever happened to that one eh?
omarthesnake by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:33:53 PM
have you ever had a real conversation
I think ARE WE DONE YET also benefited from GRINDHOUSE by Kraken	Apr 9th, 2007 03:34:14 PM
Teenagers under the age of 17 buying tickets to see ARE WE DONE YET and going into GRINDHOUSE instead. I bet you anything if you were to walk into any average theater last weekend, GRINDHOUSE would have had more teenagers in it than ARE WE DONE YET. But Quint is 100% right counter programming doesn't really work most of the time, because all you're doing is most likely making a girlfriend/wife argue with their husband/boyfriend on what to see that weekend. If it's a family weekend holiday, and there are 3 family movies to choose from, guess which demographic is going to lose the argument on what to see that particular weekend. I know from previous girlfriend experience (until I married my awesome horror movie loving wife) that if there was a movie that we'd "both" enjoy (see PG family movie) opening against the genre movie I wanted to see, we'd go see the family movie first, and then maybe the genre movie later. Now, if the genre movie was the only game in town that weekend, I had a better shot at seeing what I wanted to see. Now, I'm not saying this is the case for all couples, I know a lot of female genre fans... but I'm just speaking in averages here when it comes to the stereotypical family unit.
why not just cut the running time? by TheNorthlander	Apr 9th, 2007 03:34:37 PM
If the length is really the issue, they should just make it shorter. But I agree easter is a bad weekend for this as well. I work at a multiplex and it's been pretty quiet all easter (except for 300, which is sold out seemingly due to it being an area full of arabs who are curious about how they're reflected). Today people are returning after the holiday weekend, and guess which movie sells the best? Mr Bean.
skimn by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:35:03 PM
you are a very intellegent person, no joke here.
'Grindhouse not as good as Roundhouse' by Traumnovelle	Apr 9th, 2007 03:35:13 PM
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH......hol y shit. Thats the funniest talkback i've ever seen on this godamn site. That show was the fucking PITS, and i even remember the theme song....'Goin to the Roouuundhouse....we'll have a celebration....Goin to the Rouuundhouse....where i can be myself.....when life gets you so dooown, you know you can go dooowoown, to where something something my friends blah blah....at the ROUNDHOUSE!'...or something similiar.....shudder. Yea, but anyway, Death Proof is one of the worst movies i've ever seen in my life. I dont give two fucks if you think i haven't seen enough exploitation flicks to 'get' it, it just straight up sucks dick. Two lovely ladies with me, a six pack of tallcans and Planet Terror, THAT was a memorable experience. Shout out to Robert Rodriguez.
gride9000 by Masked Avenger	Apr 9th, 2007 03:36:41 PM
You're only confusing me further.
Traumnovelle by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:37:09 PM
that was some ignorant shit. Whats you problem, do you have a tinyURL.com?
Masked Avenger, dude it was a dumb by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:38:52 PM
joke forget it. But you should watch every Use Your Illusion video. There are dolphins.
Wasn't running time the excuse for low King Kong BO? by tonagan	Apr 9th, 2007 03:39:19 PM
Not to stir up that debate again.
WTF is Cop Rock? by Jak0lantern01	Apr 9th, 2007 03:43:40 PM
Anyway, Kraken has a good point that kids may very well have been buying tix for the family friendly flix only to go sneak into GH. There's a very strong possibility. I used to do it as a kid. :)
why the experiment failed... by cdubbs727	Apr 9th, 2007 03:43:47 PM
I saw Grindhouse and loved it. I have friends who want to see it. But I think it has, like people have said before, a VERY limited audience. People thought the blood-soaked Grindhouse would get people lining up because the blood-soaked 300 had made money. But in truth, I think most of the average moviegoers looked at the ads for GH and said "it just looks like two really bad movies". While, for film geeks, that was the entire point, the average moviegoer doesn't want to go see something that looks like something they would normally see on latenight cable. I think it's a horrible idea to split them up as the moviegoing public WILL see it as a sign of failure. Weinsteins should let the film ride out and be discovered. Won't make much more in the theater, but I could see it becoming a cult hit on DVD and a midnight movie at venues that do that sort of thing. By the way, is it just me or would it be awesome to have the Grindhouse movies specially released on VHS separately so they would look like the type of things you'd see in a bargain bin or on a video store shelf?
gride9000 by Masked Avenger	Apr 9th, 2007 03:44:23 PM
It was a joke, I get jokes! That was pretty funny then. Actually thanks to IMDB.com(God's gift to internet)I was able to understand your reference to Guns'N Roses, more obscure than mine to a defunct Nickelodeon show. Both incredibly off topic, both way more interesting.
Oooh.... by epitone	Apr 9th, 2007 03:46:06 PM
...I can see Death Proof without having to sit through Planet Terror? Count me in. Team Weinstein!
By the way, as I stated on the other GH TB.... by Jak0lantern01	Apr 9th, 2007 03:47:04 PM
I could see the movie this weekend. Not only did Easter foul me up, like it may have done with other people, I couldn't find a reasonable screening to go see it. The multiplexes by me were only showing it on one or two screens (if lucky) and on Saturday night I just could not find a good time to go see it, unless I wanted to sit in a theatre until after 2AM. Like I said earlier, the current Hollywood release model/first weekend make or break model purely sucks and doesn't give many good movies a fighting chance.
Grindhouse problems.. by rodvegas78	Apr 9th, 2007 03:47:43 PM
I saw Grindhouse this weekend, the theater here only had 3 showings in 1 theater.. at 12:00, 4:00 and 8:00. That's it!! 3 showings a day. As to where "Are We Done Yet" had like 5. Basically I don't think the movie did as well because the mixture of Easter Weekend, Spring Break for some colleges and the fact that it was being shown less on theaters then the other movies. The Weinsteins should take the $$$ made on average per showing compare it to the other ones and spin it that way. It's called Marketing... if they really get desperate and it does tank at the box office.. then just release it on DVD or have the Sci-Fi channel pay to play it uncensored and uninterrupted at like 1:00 a.m.
Easter had fuckall to do with it, apologist butthead by HypeEndsHere	Apr 9th, 2007 03:50:54 PM
well, shit, you asked "what do you folks think?" there's really no reason to split the movie up. if you want to see the good one, leave early. they put it first.
I agree about Star Trek Nemesis.. by Cotton McKnight	Apr 9th, 2007 03:52:00 PM
Actually it was better than "Insurrection", yet did worse numbers. I attribute that solely to the fact that it was released a week before the two towers. And wasn't in between that and a James Bond movie? Unbelievable. But then again, I have heard their idea for the sequel and i'm kind of glad it did so bad, just so we didn't have to see what they had in mind.
Why is everyone ragging Death Proof? by theseventhshore	Apr 9th, 2007 03:52:56 PM
You're beating the wrong fucking horse, children. Sure...the yapfest ain't gonna bring in the mindless masses, but DP has REAL CHARACTERS. EMOTIONAL DYNAMICS. A TRUE TENSION ARC. AN AMAZING ANTAGONIST. Planet Terror IS its antagonist. Oozing and mindless. If anything, QT should convince the bloated brothers to release an extended/polished version of DP as a separate experience...or at least a special edition DVD (along with additional stunt scenes of Zoe Bell in other movies). THAT will make the bones back, brothers...
WTF is Cop Rock by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 03:54:10 PM
another joke TV show by the people that did something else. hak0lantern01, try what Masked Avenger did. IMDB it and all of my dry wit will be unvailed. Masked Avenger your ok in my book.
Bad idea by BobParr	Apr 9th, 2007 03:54:35 PM
I saw the movie(s) this weekend and enjoyed it. I wanted the double feature grindhouse experience with the previews. I would not pay to see an extended version of either of these movies by themselves.
One man's cool... by ebolamonkey	Apr 9th, 2007 03:55:22 PM
is another man's stupid. I've heard way too many comments from non-film geeks like "that looks like a really stupid movie" or even "what the hell was that?" after viewing the trailer on TV. Geek-love can support a comic book title, or a web site, but it can't support a $60+ million dollar movie. I mean, who was the idiot that thought the public was demanding this type of film?
People are ragging on Death Proof... by Jak0lantern01	Apr 9th, 2007 03:56:05 PM
because they have the attention span of fruit flies. Too much fast edit TV has rotted their brains, so they can't sit still without your standard Michael Bay hack editing job. You know, they do have a name for this: Attention Defecit Disorder, aka ADD. I actually like movies with dialog, the ones without are just way too shallow (I did like Kill Bill 2 a lot).
Re; KosherWookie by WolfmanNards	Apr 9th, 2007 03:59:14 PM
"Saw this movie twice this past weekend and LOVED IT!!! It REALLY evokes the grindhouse memories, crappy prints, scratches, exploitation trailers and all! This from a veteran of the Times Square grindhouse experience at the Rialto and the Liberty back in the bad old 70s." This should have been Harry's review. But he had to take the expected self indulgent ego route.
THE TRAILERS and the DVD by Darth Melkor	Apr 9th, 2007 04:00:12 PM
So if they separate the films are the wonderful trailers gone too? And what about the DVD release? Here's what they MUST do. You release Grindhouse on DVD, exactly what we all saw in the theater. Hell don't even include bonus features. Just give us the straight 3 hour film. Then release an extended Planet Terror without the missing reel and bonus features as it's on dvd. And do the same for Death Proof. Most fans would buy all three. I would.
i for one by rdsxfan8	Apr 9th, 2007 04:01:29 PM
will be very pissed if i have to shell out 2x the $$ to see both films that those of you who have already seen it spent seeing them both. and easter had nothing to do with me not seeing it, i happen to work w/e's so I havent yet gotten around to it. but it looks like i had better get my ass in gear before those ASS CLOWN exec's have their way and cut this thing into 2. i also agree 100% that it was a shitty idea to open this on a holiday w/e. Lots of folks out with the kids doesnt mean a big BO draw for this one. and it wasnt just beaten by "Are we there yet" it was beaten by "blades of glory", "meet the robinsons" and "AWTY" which is more proof that this type of film should never open on this w/e.
Darth Melkor by Jak0lantern01	Apr 9th, 2007 04:02:21 PM
That's right, give Hollywood proof perfect that they can rip you and every other sucker off on this one. I'd piss on all 3 DVD's.
QT makes 2 films out of Kill Bill... by Fabulous Freak	Apr 9th, 2007 04:03:29 PM
...and they seriously consider making it 1 for DVD. Grindhouse is two movies for the price of one, and they want to split it up into 2. If he werent as powerful a force in hollywood, imagine how fucked his movies would end up by the time they reach us.
"It was the three-hour run-time..." by MechaTruffautMk2	Apr 9th, 2007 04:03:39 PM
Blaming Grindhouse's failure on its run-time would make sense if there was some sort of a history of such failures when the movies were just really, really good...but what about the Lord of the Rings films at three hours plus each? Huge successes...basically, you can't really get any bigger, with them each in the top ten highest grossing films of all time. Why were they so huge, despite their run-time? Well...they were extremely well done! (not exactly masterpieces, though, but that's another story) Why did Grindhouse bomb? Same reason the new King Kong did...both films were awful. Tarantino is the worst hack of all time; I saw Grindhouse just to stay afloat with the current conversation in film, and I was not at all surprised when it blew unmitigated ass. I should have learned my lesson after Kill Bill. I swear, I'll never see another Tarantino hacksterpirce (hah hah, see what I did there? At least Kurt Russell laughed...) even if it's a giant robot romantic kung fu space opera starring the reanimated corpses of Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland (yes, I know she's still alive, so I guess she'll actually just be deyoungified).
Spider-Man 3 by rodvegas78	Apr 9th, 2007 04:05:12 PM
I'm not comparing Spider-Man 3 to Grindhouse, 2 different demos, etc. But had Spider-Man 3 opened this weekend, you think it would have made less then what it would make opening in May? I take back my statement for saying Easter had anything to do with it.. Saw IV could have probably opened to big numbers over Easter.. people love that Saw guy..
ASS CLOWN is so playedout by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 04:05:32 PM
How bout' "SHIT TUBE" "DICK CHASER" or the rare but effective "CUM DUMPSTER" show some creativity.
It's CRAP by lennon211	Apr 9th, 2007 04:09:54 PM
I think it's a crap move to separate the movies...in fact,the Wiensteins will go in my book as ChickenShit. Now, Harvey, how about that full release DVD?
re: gride9000 by rdsxfan8	Apr 9th, 2007 04:11:23 PM
how about dum cumster insted of cum dumpster.
MechaTruffautMk2 by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 04:11:49 PM
You got all the answers, don't ya, listen you butcket of stinky doo-doo. Don't fuck with our man. Around here QT is a G.O.D. Who care if you think a super duper movie is ok or even shity. Come back from bizzaro world and I'll teach you how to get laid.
Tarantino missed the boat... by EthanEdwards	Apr 9th, 2007 04:12:19 PM
on this one. For someone who has basically made his career making exploitation movies, he really missed with with Death Proof. This was supposed to be a "grindhouse" (in quotes, because no one really references this correctly here) movie, and just adding a couple of jump cuts to a very talky film (that no one would've sat through or had the capibility to make) doesn't make it a grindhouse movie. Everyone has already pointed out that the graniny, scratchy quality diasappears halfway through the film. Why? Possibily the same reason why Tarantino was already going to recut it before opening weekend (check last week's EW). There's a better movie in there (or maybe not... maybe Tarantino knew his movie sucked in camparision to Rodriguez's, at least on the "grindhouse" level, and I'm sure he doesn't want to play second fiddle to Rodriguez). In other words, it was a terrible "grindhouse" movie but (maybe) a good movie that was being restrained by the "grindhouse" ideal. Either way, people who defend it as is for what it is supposed to be are just trying to come off mentally-superior. Its disappointing that Tarantino given the chance to really release his inner creativity in a film style he loves so much missed so badly.
rodvegas78 by ProfGriffin	Apr 9th, 2007 04:13:26 PM
Excellent point. It may not have been the fault of the Holiday Weekend...but for this TYPE of film it certainly had an influence. Again, it wasn't that people did not go to the movies...they did. But they all went to see something else. Running time affects it in that there are so many hours of the day and only so many showings can be held... But the truth of it...(as Pintel would say) is more terrifying. The movies failed to bring them in. We were gluttoned with advertising, all the players appeared on the talk shows, the BUZZZ was big (magazine covers, Entertainment talk shows) this was an experience. BUT...the public passed.
almost by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 04:13:48 PM
but cum dumpster is pure genius. And listen buddy I didn't invent that one.
I don't know why they're panicking by GregoryHarbin	Apr 9th, 2007 04:14:10 PM
I really want to see Grindhouse, I just didn't have a chance over Easter weekend. I'm sure a lot of other people didn't, and will be seeing it this weekend, or buy the DVD, where runtime won't matter.
Leave it by Russman	Apr 9th, 2007 04:14:22 PM
It was fine the way it was. On DVD they'll add more stuff fill in the "missing" reels and it'll make even more money.
Speaking of shit that tanks by Yogsoggoth	Apr 9th, 2007 04:15:13 PM
did anyone see the teaser trailer for Halloween yet? I know they'll wait three weeks to post about it here and then treat it like it is brand new, but for your viewing pleasure (http://tinyurl.com/3xmdom).
3 DVDs is the answer. by Zarles	Apr 9th, 2007 04:16:09 PM
One of the full movie, one of PT, and one of DP. Load them all up to the gills with as many extras as you can, and bingo - you made your money back.
Um, gride9000... by Childe Roland	Apr 9th, 2007 04:16:28 PM
...you relly ought to check into a little place I like to call "reality." I don't think you'll find many on this site who write QT off as completely talentless, but most of us (at least those of us who actually notice things like comparitive quality in cinema) are painfully aware of his limitations (the ones he was born with and the ones he's placed on himself) as a film maker. The days of blindly bowing at the feet of any old idea that runs through that coke addled brain of his are well over and done with. As for teaching anyone how to get laid...why do I imagine you as the freckle-faced cousin from National Lampoon's Vacation, asking young Anthony Michael Hall if he's ever bopped his baloney?
why are they shocked? by lionbiu	Apr 9th, 2007 04:17:34 PM
Grindhouse movies never did great box offcie back in the 70's so why would they do great box office now? It was released at a stupid time, the best release date would have been early february to mid march or late summer. Dvivding the film would be stupid and completely go against everything the film stood for.
I'm seeing it this weekend and it better still be one by kinghenryVIII	Apr 9th, 2007 04:17:47 PM
film or I'm gonna shit. I'm hearing it's great thenhearing it's not .... I do want to make my own opinion but obviously I need to do it quick. Weinstien you prick! Let it play out!
Just a thought... by Jono from the Block	Apr 9th, 2007 04:18:48 PM
But wasn't the whole thing with Grindhouse movies that they very rarely made tons of cash? So a big homage to a load of movies that didn't make much money ends up... not taking money. A bit like Tim Burton's Ed Wood - it's great to pay homage to something but if the mass audience didn't take to something first time round then why should they now (although I'm sure there will be several exceptions that prove the rule)? Must be off, time to watch my Four Rooms DVD to see if it really is as bad as i remember...
Grindhouse was awesome by gusborwig	Apr 9th, 2007 04:19:12 PM
This was a great set of movies. I would have to say this was a great homage to some of the great b-movies out there. Its definetly one of those movies that has to be seen in a movie theater or even preferably at a drive-in. I cant wait to see if they do something on the DVD to make it that much better. Its not meant to be serious. I came in expecting 3 hours of gore and hilarity and I got that and more. Splitting these movies up would be a terrible idea. Wait it out Weinsteins. Itll be a big seller on rental/DVD.
Which Kind Of Idiot Are You? by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 04:19:38 PM
1. The kind that thinks he/she know more about movie marketing than the people who make films and have a marketing dept. 2. The kind of idiot that can't sit through good stories with real diolouge. 3.The kind that thinks QT and RR suck.
hey TBers...wonder why Bay doesnt care what you say? by the_shogun_gunslinger	Apr 9th, 2007 04:19:58 PM
because just like SoaP, you all couldnt stop talking about how cool it was gonna be...then guess what? FLOP!!! so either you gusy are all fucking talk or there are a lot of people posting under different names bacause i know I'VE already paid to see Grindhouse 3 times....ive done my fucking part. and you wonder why they dumb down comic movies and other shit we like...WE...DONT....MATTER!!!!
Machette and Werewomen of the SS by gusborwig	Apr 9th, 2007 04:20:19 PM
These movies need to be the sequel.
Why GRINDHOUSE is bombing(for now) by Lord Elric	Apr 9th, 2007 04:20:36 PM
I was auditing another movie all weekend, and i can tell you what was happening there. Tons of young people buying for Firehouse Dog and Are We Done Yet, then sneaking into Grindhouse. The theatre screen was packed, especially at night, and we're talking a 300 plus house. that's what happened. Plus, the word that Death proof was pretty talky. Add to that a very bad release date and a lack of proper explanation as to just what Grindhouse means, which seem to have prompted more then one teen a few weeks ago to say that it looked "stupid", and there you have what went wrong. I'm still confused as to why the whole thing cost 53 million, which is about the price for about 200 real grindhouse films, but I'm assuming the heavy CGI work in Planet Terror, plus the large cast, may have had something to do with it. Bad timing did this one in. This is a mid Summer, early fall film. or at least Spring Break. I do think that it'll do very well on dvd, though. Please, I seriously hope this doesn't endanger any spin of the propsed spinoff films. I want Werewolf Women Of The S.S. to be made.
Jak0lantern01 by Darth Melkor	Apr 9th, 2007 04:20:52 PM
Only if you buy all there. I'm just saying give people the choice. Don't make them watch them separately. If they want Grindhouse, let them buy Grindhouse. If they're a big Death Proof fan and want and extended cut, let them buy just that. I'm not saying let them rip us off, I'm just saying we should get to decide if we want to see these films like they were intended to be seen, not separately.
People are ragging on Death Proof... by KeithCourage	Apr 9th, 2007 04:22:06 PM
ADD huh...or maybe it's because when I bought a ticket to a movie called Grindhouse, I expected to have fun...not listen to girls talk at a diner. If I bitched that "The Queen" or "Little Children" had too much dialogue and were boring...then you could spout that snotty bullshit. People are just pissed because they were promised a "Thrill Ride" and got a scenic bike ride instead.
stupid weinsteins by purplemonkeydw	Apr 9th, 2007 04:22:44 PM
always trying to make money off of movies so they can make more movies...stupid innovators of independent film...d'oh!
gride9000 by skimn	Apr 9th, 2007 04:22:53 PM
I would've responded sooner, but the drool all over my keyboard was making it all slippery like.
agreed by lionbiu	Apr 9th, 2007 04:35:30 PM
With death proof there actually is a good movie within there and making it a grindhouse movie actually stops it from realising it's potential. Planet Terror is everything a grindhosue movie should be..stupid, big, dumb and filled with action. Death Proof gets shitted on because it does not deliver what is promised.
ProGrif by rodvegas78	Apr 9th, 2007 04:36:39 PM
I see your point, I guess it's just the whole Snakes on a Plane thing, even though Grindhouse is far superior to Snakes on a Plane.. I have a bad feeling for Hot Fuzz when it opens in a couple of weeks.. I saw it with the stars there and the theater was packed, but it's not like there was a line wrapped around the building.. I think we geeks want movies with fresh ideas that aren't a remakes that are worthwhile and get angry when it doesn't take in a ton of dough... Had Grindhouse made $100 mil. this weekend.. would we all be bitching about the people that jumped on the bandwagon??
Partially the Hype is to blame by Macktheknife01	Apr 9th, 2007 04:37:19 PM
My wife and I both debated going to see this but decided to wait til next weekend, I mean it was easter. I love most of both of these guys but i kept seeing these two nerds high fiving at the end of each add. "Isn't great that we can write on cocaine". Seemed a little indulgent
The Passion Opened on Easter? by Darth Melkor	Apr 9th, 2007 04:39:43 PM
IT WAS ABOUT EASTER!!!! I don't seem to recall flesh eating zombie viruses and freeway maniacs in the Bible.
Why it failed by crackerfarmboy	Apr 9th, 2007 04:40:51 PM
1) Very little advertising. How many fucking "The Reaping" ads have there been? About 10 times more than "Grindhouse"! 2) Easter weekend was a terrible idea. It's a family film weekend and it's in competition with the Farrell juggernaught "Blades of Glory" even though that film is the same fucking teen comedy film they've been making for the last 6 years now. "Hey here's an idea" (reaches into hat of funny professions): "Let's have Will pretend he's: A BALLERINA!!" $100 million later and everyone's happy, except for people who like intelligent comedies. But back to Grindhouse: 3) It needs time for word of mouth to spread. It's good I'm sure (will see it next week) and Tarantino's films rarely start out with huge opening weekends. This movie will grow as people get sick of "BOG" and the late April/early May movie blues set in. Don't panic Weinsteins. Don't shit the bed! 4) Trust Tarantino, this film will not flop as bad as you think it will.
Loved it by liljuniorbrown	Apr 9th, 2007 04:45:29 PM
I had to fucking make time late sunday night after all the family priorities and then i got to see it. Death Proof does not have enough exploitation style to it. I enjoy looking at hot ass chicks as much as possible but all that talking is way too much for me. It was a great time at the movies and I do want more GrindHouse flicks in the future,as long as Eli Roth is no where near the fucking lense. I want to see El Wray and the bad ass Micheal Bein character,even the babysitter twins who didn't get enough screen time for my taste.
The Weinsteins recut a move? by Larry of Arabia	Apr 9th, 2007 04:45:41 PM
Man, that would NEEEEEEVER happen!
machete by rdsxfan8	Apr 9th, 2007 04:48:42 PM
this is the one they should make a movie outta heres a link to a youtube clip fo the machete trailer!!! ( handheld cam shot but it still looks ok) http://tinyurl.com/2exe6g
I honestly don't think Death Proof would work by itself by Hideo Kojima	Apr 9th, 2007 04:50:29 PM
If it was released by itself it would probably bomb more than Grindhouse
GRINDHOUSE not as good as... by -guyinthebackrow	Apr 9th, 2007 04:52:41 PM
ROAD HOUSE! You know it!
WORD OF MOUTH as Grindhouse's SAVIOR by TheDohDoh	Apr 9th, 2007 04:53:03 PM
Seriously guys, anyone who thinks positive word-of-mouth is going to save this mutant-experiment of a film is kidding themselves. Look at how much dissonance there is in the ranks of TBers. If half the geeks here think Death Proof was a let-down, then 80% of non-geeks/general public viewers are going to trash it. There's a more indepth TB discussion of the film under Moriarty's review, and I recommend everyone add to that talkback per the films. There's no way to save this one. It won't do shit overseas either - did they even have "grindhouses" outside the states?
jfp2006 by the_shogun_gunslinger	Apr 9th, 2007 04:54:18 PM
uh, are you even remotely familiar with the idea behind Easter or are you just retarded?
It worked when they broke up 4 Rooms. by modlight	Apr 9th, 2007 04:54:31 PM
Oh wait, that was a half baked jerk off pet project as well.
DUMP YOUR MARKETING BRAINS NOW! by Cult Exiter	Apr 9th, 2007 04:55:20 PM
Now, this was like promising every fanboy (worldwide) 2 chicks in a row, the same night! and then... April's fool, sucka! Dream on about Jane Fonda! Hahah... Where's the pimp's logic?!
Death Proof Sucks by monkeyboyjunior	Apr 9th, 2007 04:56:32 PM
"If 300 had been released last weekend, it would have flopped, too." No, it wouldn't have. Planet Terror is mediocre and Death Proof is as boring as watching paint dry. That is why it had a poor weekend. No deep analysis required.
missing reels by the_shogun_gunslinger	Apr 9th, 2007 04:58:01 PM
if they put the missing reel back into Planet Terror, im going to kill someone...that jump cut had me laughing harder at anything else in either film. i mean fuck if they put that footage back, it will just take away a great gag and will actually make the film worse. also, im not buying 2 motherfucking DVDs when this thing hits, and youre looking at they guy who has a 1000+ DVD collection so im bot exactly stingy when it comes to throwing down for movies. its the principle of the projesct goddammit. and for the record, i blame the easter weekend/lack of ads for the disappointing numbers
The more I see of Rose McGowan by Mr. Lahey	Apr 9th, 2007 05:07:17 PM
flying around with her gun-leg, the happier I am these movies will be split up. Thank you.
They would make some money by aron	Apr 9th, 2007 05:08:24 PM
They would make some money back if they hurried up releasing it in other countries. I have to wait till June until it gets released here in Ireland. Most people will already have seen pirate copies of it by the time the movie opens here. Same thing with Rocky Balboa and 300 there were perfect copies of them going around before they even opened here.
Seems chickeny by CherryValance	Apr 9th, 2007 05:11:11 PM
I mean, leave it the way it is and take it like a man. Although had they been originally released individually, I would have only gone to Death Proof. That would have been good. I would have avoided the silly zombies and they wouldn't have gotten any more of my money.
"but sir, he's getting his dick wet sir" by future help	Apr 9th, 2007 05:14:10 PM
there were great moments all thru Planet Terror. QT really let me down. Rather boring "grindhouse" story. But i laughed and laughed when Kurt Russel turned into a pussy. That was great! AND YES. i like the idea of busting this movie up as a 6 movie at 20 min ea (or some 30 and others 12min)Grindhouse experience. That whould of been much more fun and higher energy.
no matter what...im happy it ever even got made. by future help	Apr 9th, 2007 05:15:31 PM
period.
I do want to... by Massage...Bored	Apr 9th, 2007 05:17:48 PM
...see the entire Death Proof long cut in the theatre, I'll go back!
more than the sum of its parts by johnnysunshine	Apr 9th, 2007 05:19:24 PM
this is a film that's more than the sum of its parts. I got two great movies for the price of one this weekend and had an excellent time with them. why spend a bunch more money splitting them into two movies? I fyou just want to see one flick, then leave early or come late. I'm sorry they didn't make as much money as they should hav. releasing it on easter weekend was pretty stupid I guess and it's not something that'll appeal to everyone, but surely they'll make their money back on dvd. Also, a lot of people seem to be ragging on death proof. The first half lags, i admit, but the second half was awesome!
What the hell is Firehouse Dog? by MechaTruffautMk2	Apr 9th, 2007 05:20:21 PM
I refuse to look it up on IMDB, because the last time I used that site to check out that new movie, ya know, 300, it sent me to a softcore gay S&M porn flick. Not quite sure what that's all about...anybody know what's wrong with IMDB? Also, Grindhouse is still terrible.
Re: Firehouse Dog by TheDohDoh	Apr 9th, 2007 05:26:24 PM
Mecha, you should look for the trailer for Firehouse Dog. It's pretty fucking incredible. You won't believe your eyes. Imagine WonderDog at the grindhouse, and you're 1/2 way there.
running time means less showings, yes. BUT... by HypeEndsHere	Apr 9th, 2007 05:26:53 PM
a novelty shouldn't be 3hrs in general. imagine a "Stairway to Heaven"-length version of "Purple People Eater".
RE:MechaTruffautMk2 by rdsxfan8	Apr 9th, 2007 05:28:51 PM
here is the link to the yahoo site for firehouse dog. http://tinyurl.com/ysmz87 your guess is as good as mine what this is about but Im guessing it has something to do with a a firehouse and a dog.....
in the voice of Samuel L. Jackson: by Cult Exiter	Apr 9th, 2007 05:29:24 PM
When you got a bucketful of shit... Who you think you fooling, by putting a half of that shit in another bucket, then tell us, now you got 2 buckets of shit! We all can both smell and see, that there is still just 1 bucket of shit in total! And we want all that shit in only 1 bucket, cuz it all fits in 1 bucket! Got it?!
STUPID: Grindhouse POOR showing...Harvey Reacts by 9000rpm	Apr 9th, 2007 05:30:32 PM
Yeah, right, I'm going to waste even more of my money on Grindhouse. There's no way releasing Gtindhouse in two parts is going to do anything but sink Weinstein even deeper in the red. The word is out and Grindhouse is box office poison. Sure, a few morons will show up so they can smuggly proclaim they saw all the missing bits (you know, the ones that turn Death Proof into a cultural phenom). But, hey, clueless, I don't want to see the ugly chick do a lapdance, and the VAST majority of the miniscule number of boyfans that got swept up by the hype (and got ripped off) will avoid this bisected turd like the POS it is.
My two cents by Darth Thoth	Apr 9th, 2007 05:32:53 PM
No need to elaborate the many reasons why this movie failed at the box office. Previous talkbackers handled that. Let's just say I'm in the camp that feels the burden lies with the suits b/c I thought the movie rocked. Sure the movie was long but that didn't stop Rings. Even Kong did ok #s. Nothing bad like this. So length can be worked around. No, I think releasing a movie like this on Easter weekend along w/ kids buying tix for other flicks and then sneaking into GH are the 2 chief reasons for the bad #s. Oh look, I still gave my reasons this tanked. Oh well. Well, my point is this if any of the suits are listening, I think it's a bad idea to cut and rerelease this movie. It's out. Let it be. There's always word of mouth (it was reviewed well too), outside of US theatrical sales, and DVD sales. Plus, the summer movie season is basically here. Hot Fuzz comes out in a couple of weeks. Then Spidey 3 after that. There's no room really. Just let the flick ride out. It's a good movie experience.
Enough with the Death Proof apologists! by CreasyBear	Apr 9th, 2007 05:33:22 PM
The argument some of you make sets up the fallacy that there are only two ways to think: either someone "realizes" Death Proof's (aimless and truly boring) dialogue was brilliant, or you must be a moron who claps and drools at Ghost Rider. You think those are the only two choices? Give us all a break. Death Proof's endless blathering did not do much to establish any of the characters, was not funny, did not produce any clever turns of phrase, and was usually superfluous to the plot. It's not dialogue that I have a problem with, it's pointless dialogue. Some of you act like there's no difference.
If they are going seperate this movie by emeraldboy	Apr 9th, 2007 05:35:36 PM
then they might as well Scrap the June 1st opening in the UK/ireland and release and two seperate movies. That is what they are doing in the rest of Europe.
And Planet Terror was a lot of fun. by CreasyBear	Apr 9th, 2007 05:35:46 PM
Rodriguez respected goofy exploitation movies while at the same time poking fun at them, and it made for a wild, fun movie.
It will make 10-15M next weekend by Jack Burton	Apr 9th, 2007 05:36:04 PM
I think the main problem was opening on Easter. I don't know anyone that saw it (including myself) but everyone I've talked to is planning on going this weekend. Cutting it in half is ridiculous. Let it be what it is. I also don't get why Harv feels the need to chop it up for the DVD release either. Except his rampant greed at getting $40 for both movies as opposed to $20 for the full flick. At least release it in one full volume if you are going to do that. I'm sure it has chapters, how hard is it to skip to the one you want to watch?
Bottom Line..public does not want legless chics... by jojo-pimp	Apr 9th, 2007 05:36:17 PM
with guns on their legs!! i mean seriously, we all know, deep down, that even though us fanboys love this shit, it is kinda retarded..and i hate to say it, but thats what 90% of ticket buyers are going to think! Personally, i loved the damn movie...but everyone at my work thinks it looks retarded and wont even give it a shot
I agree - Word of Mouth by Gangar	Apr 9th, 2007 05:43:38 PM
It WAS a bad idea to release this on easter eknd. the whole damn multiplex was empty. Also - this is a word of mouth movie for sure. This will definitely pick up steam if they let it. DeathProof is an odd flick but it really does nail the exploitation experience, probably more accurately than Planet Terror, just because most exploitation movies aren't that crazy good from start to finish. Death Proof is like a really clever Roger Coreman parody and is pure genius, but the whole thing is DIFFERENT and DIFFERENT takes time. I hope the Weinsteins find their cajones and stick with it. Chopping Kill Bill into two was a mistake. Don't be greedy bastards. have a little patience for once. Jeez.
On Dancing with the Stars they do by CherryValance	Apr 9th, 2007 05:45:26 PM
Heather Mills has survived two eliminations already. But in Planet Terror that gag, or whatever it was, didn't really work.
What happened to the Weinsteins? by Jinxo	Apr 9th, 2007 05:45:39 PM
Back in the day these guys were the masters of marketing and now that seems to be their downfall. Before Grindhouse they went and threw all their ad dollars at a stinker horror flick and gave almost no release and no promotion to Feast, the first decent Project Greenlight movie. And now they have Grindhouse. Great fun flick. What do they do? Rather than bringing real grindhouses into the push for the film they ignore them entirely and they release it on Easter weekend?!?! Okay, I'm a lapsed Catholic. Haven't been to church regularly in over a decade. And I loved the idea of Grindhouse, was dying to see it. Yet even I actually had a problem with it coming out at Easter. I didn't even think about it until the news came out about how the film did but I did actually have to convince myself to go see it this weekend. There was a part of me going, "Okay, you don't go to church, not super religious but still the minimum respectful thing you could do would be to wait and see the flick next week. I mean you have 51 other weekends to see flicks like this. Is it so much to ask that you skip a film like this for this ONE weekend of the year?" Again, I did go but I'm betting I wasn't alone. So you lose the $$$ of anyone celebrating Easter with family, then you have people avoiding it out of respect for the weekend, others who are going, "3 hours of movie?!?!" Not saying it should be cut up though. The length would be less of an issue without the other problems. I think they should wait and see what happens next weekend. Word of mouth and Easter bein gout of the way may actually help weekend #2.
Most of the time I usually by RomeroZombie	Apr 9th, 2007 05:48:17 PM
Most of the time I usually wait for dvd to see a movie.With this one a buddy of mine and myself snuck out to a matinee(the first show of the day at 11:00a.m)After getting assraped at the concession stand(cash?credit?home equity loan?)me and my buddy took our seats.During the previews for the other movies the projectionist tried to add to the overall grind house experience by misaligning the camera so that it was a crooked image and even turning the camera off at one point.To further enhance the experience for my fellow movie going audience members,I accidentally kicked over my coke and it ran down underneath the seats for them to rest their feet in.For the next three hours in change we had an excellent time watching two masters of cinema totally geek out for us.Whether or not it made 50 million dollars the opening weekend it was worth doing.They will get their money back in the long term especially with dvd sales and such.Part of me was happy that it didnt do so well(payback for Shakespeare In Love beating Saving Private Ryan for best picture),but it is also sad that people didnt come out to support the movie more.One of the things I was thinking that could help the movie a bit more...Drive-Ins......The season is almost here for em and what more appropriate venue to see a film like this.Overall for three hours I was heavily entertained..my buddy felt the same way too.All isnt lost..hopefully they have patience and let the movie sit in theatres for awhile.
I doubt anyone will read this far down the list by StovetopStuffin'	Apr 9th, 2007 05:48:24 PM
But I could have stood to watch at least a half hour MORE of EACH movie.
Well... by hatramroany	Apr 9th, 2007 05:50:06 PM
...they are being released separately overseas. And it did get mixed reviews within reviews, meaning people liked one more than the other (mostly liking planet terror more). And it was easter weekend.
thats true by Gangar	Apr 9th, 2007 05:50:15 PM
I was actually GLAD it was Easter because I could see it in a nearly empty theater and the 3 hours flew by, but that scene of the guy BFing the turkey with the human head attached might have been considered sacriligious to some folks. Good thing it wasnt a bunny.
not everyone celebrates easter, by the by by HypeEndsHere	Apr 9th, 2007 05:52:08 PM
and getting candy in a basket does not prevent one from going to a movie theatre over the course of 3 days. i think the easter thing is barking up the wrong tree. not to mention this film isn't exactly targeted at the churchgoing public or children. and some dude up there said they didn't advertise this movie.... to you i say, "do they have to tattoo the poster on the inside of your fucking eyelids?" because that's the way i felt a week before it came out.
DEAR HARVEY WEINSTEIN, FUCK YOU - xoxo, THE SOUTH by TheDohDoh	Apr 9th, 2007 05:53:06 PM
Seriously, the fact that this prick is defending his movie and his company's huge financial bust this wke by blaming it on "the need to educate the South" is the MOST FUCKING OFFENSIVE, BLOWHARD EXCUSE OF ALL FUCKING TIME!!! What the fuck. This movie is fucking bullshit and even half the geeks think so. And he blames it on "the red states." Moreover, LOOKOUT EVERYONE HARVERY WEINSTEIN IS COMING TO THE SOUTH AND THE MIDWEST TO EDUCATE EVERYONE! What a prick. It's funny b/c Wilmington, NC is the third largest for film production. It's funnier b/c this fat, greedy fuck will be out of business or at least lose his best talent after this is all said and done.
jfp2006... by FrenchBastard03	Apr 9th, 2007 05:55:20 PM
...The Passion did NOT open on Easter, dipshit. Look it up before you start spewing falsities. It came out on February 25, over a month before Easter..
Wow my mistake. by BillyPilgrim	Apr 9th, 2007 05:56:47 PM
I thought Firehouse Dog was Firehose Dog. I was shocked to think that a Peter North with Jenna J flick made it to the big screen. But alas....it was not to be. I will state the obvious and say splitting the movies is dumb as shit. Maybe make it a DVD option.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN GOTTA EAT!!! by TheUglyBaby	Apr 9th, 2007 05:58:26 PM
(__)__)
A warning to anyone with talent by hallmitchell	Apr 9th, 2007 05:59:01 PM
If you sign a deal with the Weinsteins. It is like signing a deal with the devil. Harvey is all there with his chest puffed out at Democrat fundraisers. Making out he's a Hollywood liberal. Yet will not loose one once of sleep at ripping off and screwing over film makers.
..."Loose"? ....."Once"? by TheUglyBaby	Apr 9th, 2007 06:01:01 PM
3 words, babe Hooked On Phonics
The moment a movie company's by Onset	Apr 9th, 2007 06:03:22 PM
The moment a movie company's actions can be likened to those of a television network is the moment they lose.
Auds'll need to feel new footage makes em better by lettersoftransit	Apr 9th, 2007 06:05:58 PM
This will work if the audience is sold on the idea that the added footage is more outrageous than what was in the double feature bill. If they get the impression both films have simply been fleshed out to feature length by reinstalling weaker stuff that didn't make the cut first time around, they may not feel like paying to see one expanded film when they could've seen two lean and mean. Might even want to consider new footage that puts one or both over the top to NC-17 That would sound like the minutes left out were something special.
They fucked up kill bill as wel so why not this one? by Windowlicker74	Apr 9th, 2007 06:06:12 PM
the only one who thought that whas a great idea was Harry. nuff said.. , they're going to split grindhouse here in Europe anyway.
split it by darwinwins	Apr 9th, 2007 06:07:40 PM
the concept was a gimmick anyway. this movie combined will not make any money. double features sounds fun for a small percentage of the people -- the rest who go out in packs to see movies also like to go out and do other things. these two movie's combined lengths kinda rub into friend time. and that is your main audience (for this R rated movie)-- the flocks of people in groups. artistic vision is a nice concept but since the business of cinema is business first, the weinsteins will split the movie. no one is bitching that the movies are being separated overseas. why? cos the two were made to sell tickets and the most tickets will be sold by cutting the movies into two. the intent of that move was because the concept of the double feature is foreign to many foreign markets. this past weekend's performance validates that belief because the concept of the double feature is a couple of decades removed from our own.
I'd say Quint pegged it... by jimmy rabbitte	Apr 9th, 2007 06:11:08 PM
...when he pointed out that this was a holiday weekend. I've been waiting for this to come out; and can't wait to go see it. I just couldn't get in and see it this past weekend due to family plans and obligations. WANK-stein should wait and see what this weekend brings... if he chops them up I'm not even going to bother with seeing it in the theater.
What I want to know: where the hell was $53 million? by DarthCorleone	Apr 9th, 2007 06:11:09 PM
Because it sure wasn't up on the screen. Does that include the advertising budget? Isn't a budget like that contrary to the whole Grindhouse spirit? Don't get me wrong - I had a great time with the movie and have recommended it to others, and I thought the effects were fun and the cast was great. I just don't think this movie should have cost more than $20 million.
gride9000... by omarthesnake	Apr 9th, 2007 06:12:31 PM
yes, but i've never asked millions of people to pay $8 a head to watch it. We've only got 90 minutes with these characters, I don't give a flaming shit to hear them ramble on. That's just sloppy, lazy, self-indulgent filmmaking. And QT is certainly self-indulgent, but that's OK if he backs it up with the solid dialogue, good characters, etc, etc. But in this case, it was sloppy and lazy and worst of all, BORING. You want to establish the chatty nature of the characters, you could've done that in half the time it took. The conversations around restaurant tables thing can only go so far without looking like Reservoir Dogs Lite.
I celebrated Easter by drinking and gambling. by DarthCorleone	Apr 9th, 2007 06:14:14 PM
I was able to catch the Thursday night showing of Grindhouse. I do think Easter weekend was a factor, as it would have been for me if not seeing it before leaving town. Even if it's distasteful for some to see severed and oozing limbs in conjunction with a religious holiday, a lot of people had a three-day weekend and might not have wanted to commit three hours of vacation to a movie.
It won't happen by Rupee88	Apr 9th, 2007 06:14:22 PM
They are probably just floating these rumors to save face somehow.
Too Late by Ratphink	Apr 9th, 2007 06:14:34 PM
In true Grindhouse style, both films should have had budgets of 10 mil or less each. Forcing both filmmakers to really deliver that vision on limited budgets. I enjoyed the experience alot, but wished they felt more like low budget quickies. If that were the case everyone would be looking at a fairly successful opening instead of thinking of really runining things this way.
Bad Release Date by darquelyte	Apr 9th, 2007 06:16:01 PM
They should have released it in May just before all the big sequels come out. Let it play through the summer in the drive-ins, then rerelease it in September as 2 movies with the "missing reels" put back in, then release it on DVD for the Holidays. It would have made a much bigger impact that way. Now, what they should do is just let it stay out there and see if word of mouth works or not. If it does, run it until the weekend of the first big sequel, then pull it, and do the Fall/Holiday thing I mentioned before. If word of mouth doesn't work, pull it after next week, then do the Fall/Holiday plan. Not really all that complicated. ~ÐL
I think you are all missing the point by The Skeptical	Apr 9th, 2007 06:17:16 PM
I think you are all missing the point of this "rumor". (Which is front page on yahoo news). The idea is to make the people who have not seen ir think "Damn, I better go see it before they split it up!". it's a reactive MARKETING campaign. Do any of you realy doubt that?
nuts to you by Gangar	Apr 9th, 2007 06:18:22 PM
You guys who didn't get Deathproof don't know stink about exploitation movies. Most of them are JUST LIKE THAT, lots and lots of exposition and a little bit of action. That's the JOKE, except the dialog isn't nearly as interesting. I'm not even a huge Tarrantino fan but I think he did a really good job here and hit all the right notes. Kurt Russell is both hilarious and menacing and the ending is supoib, like the ultimate cheerleader flick. You dissenters need to get yourselves a schoolin' in some serious exploitation theater before you start pissin' on the Deathproof. You don't know shit.
real dialogue? by rainbowtrout1265	Apr 9th, 2007 06:19:46 PM
"The kind of idiot that can't sit through good stories with real diolouge" Tracie Thoms dropping 500 F bombs is not real dialogue. That has to be the worst performance of the year.
DarthCorleone: $53M by 9000rpm	Apr 9th, 2007 06:20:29 PM
The real budget is supposedly more like $67M, plus marketing. What a mess.
with respect to darwinwins by jimmy rabbitte	Apr 9th, 2007 06:21:09 PM
I've read many a post from TBer's in overseas countries who aren't happy that the films are being released separately. As for the running time, ( my local cinema's website lists it at 3 hours 11 minutes ) it is a bit long, but there've been long running films that have done well. I would attribute the low receipts more to the holiday weekend than the running time. Atleast at this point; but if the numbers don't improve this weekend, it's quite likely they aren't going to... and then splitting them up is probably unavoidable.
and please, no extra footage on Planet Terror either by omarthesnake	Apr 9th, 2007 06:21:19 PM
i enjoyed that film a lot more than Death Proof, but it was the right length, with the missing reel. Any more and you just get numbed to the action and gore.
Audiences just dont care for mysogynist camp sleaze by watashiwadare	Apr 9th, 2007 06:23:36 PM
The low turnout is just reality that the geek elite (incl critics) has to face: tarantino is for a limited cult fanbase, not all of culture.
The net is NOT as mighty as some think by LLcruize2	Apr 9th, 2007 06:24:51 PM
Quint, I have to disagree with you that 300 would have bombed this weekend. In it's 5th weekend, 300 brought in over 8 million bucks, up against the exact same movies as Grindhouse. Had 300 been released this weekend, sure, it may have lost a little off its record pull, but it would by no means tanked like Grindhouse and I have no doubt it would have taken the weekend easily. Harry basked in the supposed glory of the net being a factor in making 300 a hit. He gleefully claimed some of the credit for 300's monster weekend was due to the net promotion/word of mouth. WRONG! The film did well because the film was marketed correctly, it had mass appeal and the word of mouth on the STREET was great. The assumption that the net is any true force in if a movie is a hit or not is to suppose every single person that logs onto the net gives a damn about movies. They don't. Weinstein made mention they may have not marketed Grindhouse correctly as a "in theater" experience. In fact, they did do that, but it was done mostly on the internet. They believed too much in the incorrect assumption by many an internet movie "expert" that the net can make or break a film. Back when Harry was taking the bow for the net making 300 a hit I wanted to caution him in being too proud of a false assumption. I didn't, but Grindhouse failing this weekend is all the evidence needed to show that assumption to be false. Even though Grindhouse was universally lauded by net critics and print critics, it failed to put asses in the seats. Word of mouth on the street, in the office, between friends, and pure entertain still are THE ways people are put in the seats. Look at Wild Hogs. It was blasted on this site by every critic. It was blasted by most print critic, yet the film has succeeded in spite of the two groups who think THEY put people in the theater. I want to see Grindhouse and will do so before it is out of theaters. But it isn't because AICN said it was good. It isn't because any other internet site said it was good or it got a "two thumbs up". It is because I am a fan of both directors and enjoy these kinds of movies. I didn't need the net to help me make that decision and it never will.
Grindhouse ticket price by 9000rpm	Apr 9th, 2007 06:25:00 PM
I don't recall exactly but weren't ticket prices at 'grindhouses' significantly LESS than regular theaters? Damn I want at least $8 back.
Cut em by phaedrus007	Apr 9th, 2007 06:25:03 PM
I am one those who is very interested in the QT movie, but not too enthusiastic about the RR movie. 3 1/2 hours a lot of time for me to set aside for a movie (more when you take into account going to the theater, waiting in line, etc) and I just thought this puppy looked too long to sit through. So I'm waiting for DVD.... unless Harv cuts em, in which case he'll get my $ for QT's flick in the theater and RR's at the video store.
Don't blame Easter by hallmitchell	Apr 9th, 2007 06:26:53 PM
Alot of people just didn't want to see it. Geeks are on holiday to.
no, nuts to you, gangar! by omarthesnake	Apr 9th, 2007 06:27:04 PM
(how fun, i feel like i'm a gangster movie arguing with Jar-Jar's cousin) It doesn't matter if the "joke" is that exploitation movies are "just like that". The point of this, according to RR&QT, was to make a grindhouse double-feature that lives up to the movie poster, not one that shows all the flaws of cheapo low-budget movies. And the exposition, ham-fisted as it was (Gee, think her showing off her gun or her talking about never getting hurt will come back?), wasn't the problem. the problem was the little side conversations that went nowhere and took their own sweet time doing it. We love QT for his stream-of-consciousness dialogue and pop culture shit, but not when it's this drawn out and limp.
They shouldnt release them seperately by LeviDTinker	Apr 9th, 2007 06:27:48 PM
they shouldnt take them apart now. while i think each movie would have preformed better seperately to begin with. to take reedit them seperately now after they have allready been released, would do more harm than good. while it wasnt number one and only grossed 11 million this weekend, there is no reason why the way it is now this movie cant build its grosses slowly over the next few weeks. the movie was made relatively cheap compared to most films today, i really think that eventually it will make its money back at the box office as it is.
Where's your balls Q.T. by hallmitchell	Apr 9th, 2007 06:28:27 PM
It was your movie that made the Weinsteins rich. Remind them. They are screwing you in a power play. OR are you really a pussy and going to let them dictate to you what's going on. Shattered dude.
My theatre by landocolt45	Apr 9th, 2007 06:28:40 PM
In Jacksonville, NC they had it in one of the smallest theatre rooms at the 16. The big theatre rooms had blades of glory in 2 of them and meet the robinsons and are we done yet in 2 as well. I think this was becasue of it being Easter, it was kinda dumb to release it now, but for a 3 hour movie it should have been put in a theatre with more seats. It was hella packed in the small theatre.
What about this movie made appear to be so great? by ryan1976	Apr 9th, 2007 06:39:47 PM
Just look at the trailer for this film; "Come see this CRAZY movie where a girl gets her leg amputated and replaces it with a BIG GUN....then Kurt Russel has a car that he uses to kill women with...BUT he can't die!!!". I'm a huge nerd and geek and film buff and my interest in this movie was very low at best. At the end of the day this movie was made for a very small part of a somewhat small audience (nerds, geeks, filmbuffs) and then mareketed to a public that just didn't care and thought it looked to weird or didn't understand the concept. And not understanding the concept IS OK!!! That doesn't make them dumb or mindless...it just makes them NOT-INTERESTED! Things like this are not for everyone. Do I think that opening Easter weekend had an affect on ticket sales, probably. But I think the movie itself is what alienated people.
Maybe I'm spoiled... by SebastianHaff	Apr 9th, 2007 06:40:13 PM
My dream Grindhouse DVD: DISC 1: The original 191 minute theatrical cut, with commentary from Rodriguez and Quentin for the whole thing. Bring in Zombie, Roth, and Wright for at least the intermission. Maybe a commentary cameo by Bruce Willis and Zoe Bell. Also include an option to watch all the fake trailers by themselves. Throw in all the deleted scenes (viewed speartely from the movie), and we've got a fantastic first disc. DISC 2: Planet Terror extended cut. DISC 3: Death Proof extended cut. DISC 4: Shitload of features. A Rodriguez flick school, cooking school, a feature length documentary about the whole movie - from the original great idea to the bad opening weekend and everything in between, another feature length documentary not about Grindhouse the movie, but about grindhouse films in general. Includes interviews with Quentin and Robert and as many of their exploitation director friends as possible. Genuine vintage exploitation trailers. Trailers, TV spots, etc for Grindhouse. And all the other random zaniness that appears on Rodruiguez dvd's. The little booklet inside the dvd box would also have a menu for the nasty Mexican resteraunt advertised in the movie! Now THAT'S a motherfuckin' dvd I'd buy. Fuck all that releasing three versions noise. Let me have it all in one package. But then, like the title says, I'm spoiled.
Is it possible people didn't want to see this movie? by Chingachgook	Apr 9th, 2007 06:40:16 PM
Perhaps "QT" and "RR" will now realise that most do not share their "vision". Face it, this was a vanity project by two guys who think that everyone likes what they like. I guess they were wrong. And the pompous Weinsteins get whatever they have coming.
Huh?!? by Gangar	Apr 9th, 2007 06:40:51 PM
You love QT for his stream of pop culture what? You only love him when he does what YOU EXPECT him to do? You don't like him when he does something different, something you declare as LAME because you simply...don't...fuckin...get it? You want lame, look in a mirror, PAL! Maybe you should change your monicker to 'Status Quo'. It would be more fitting. God bless kurt Russell and Vanessa Ferlito's ass...and I'm out!
Death Proof's 'realistic' dialog... by brando render	Apr 9th, 2007 06:41:35 PM
..made me feel like I was watching the Gilmore Girls. Ugh.
Screw You, Bigot by monkeyboyjunior	Apr 9th, 2007 06:44:43 PM
"but its no secret that the flyover states aren't exactly what you'd call culturally aware of anything outside of Jeebus, meth, and how much they hate all nonwhite nonchristians (especially if their gay, but its okay to be a raging pedophile if you wear a funny hat and pretend you speak to a magical space god who lives in teh sky). No offense." You are a bigoted ass who has been programmed like a fucking monkey with eletrodes on its nipples. South bad! North good! Me vote Obama. Go back to your power node, clone. Beyond that, maybe you are right if you say people "don't get it." Well, fine. We don't. But don't bitch about a movie tanking if it is intentionally unappealing! Why did it have a shitty opening weekend? Either it sucks accidentally, or it sucks "on purpose." What difference does it make?
Good for Planet Terror, Bad for Death Proof by Knightsong	Apr 9th, 2007 06:53:20 PM
I could totally handle seeing a full cut of Planet Terror, But Death Proof would flop hard. You can go on and on about it being Tarentino's style of film making...it doesn't change that fact that it lacked the fun.
This Easter thing is ridiculous... by modlight	Apr 9th, 2007 07:03:02 PM
Is Grindhouse really targeted at the same audience that goes to church? I doubt it. The only reason this tanked is that (and listen up here Tarantino and Rodriguez) we've all seen every Zombie Movie and we all love Vanishing Point and all it's bretheren. We don't want to see some tounge in cheek homage to movies we love. The thing looked disingenuine... and guess what people who like film don't like fake ones. I strongly urge Tarantino go back to making movies that referenced the movies he loved like Pulp Fiction and stop making clever copies of them like KB1 and this. And Rodriguez... Love you too, but next movie you make, take some time. There is no rush. You are talented, but you try and put out so much to prove how prolific you can be and we all end up with movies that feel like 2nd drafts.
brando render...Death Proof's 'realistic' dialog by 9000rpm	Apr 9th, 2007 07:05:57 PM
...like watching the Gilmore Girls I'd say it was closer to watching QT's version of Charlie's Angels. Zoe Bell is Cameron Diaz, and Rosario and Wanda Sykes are...Boring 1 and Boring 2.
TOO SOON! by Darth Melkor	Apr 9th, 2007 07:06:20 PM
To split these films up. Sorry I just wanted to be the "too soon" guy for once. Ah.. satisfaction.
They should make a movie called..... by RonJeremyIrons	Apr 9th, 2007 07:08:11 PM
The Ronald McDonald Grindhouse,where Stuntman Mike runs over all of the McDonaldLand character's, starting with the fucking clown. I'm lovin THAT!
Excuses by juxtaposedkiosk	Apr 9th, 2007 07:10:09 PM
The movie was bad. No other reason for it failing at the box office.
I can see how that would work... by trysop	Apr 9th, 2007 07:11:10 PM
I think it would work if they broke it into two films. Something like "Death Proof: The New Tarantino Flick!" and "Planet Terror: From The Director of Sin City". Play the fake trailers with Planet Terror, which would fit the mood (and audience better), then Death Proof on it's own. I think (unfortunately) it would be great for the box office, but bad for the excellent 'double-bill' concept. I wonder if people were scared by the 'grindhouse' aspect of it? When my wife and I saw it over the weekend in the local 20-plex, there were cops all over the place. There are usually none, so it was kinda weird. I bet some old cop dude was like 'we useta bust all sorts of no-good criminals at the grindhous' lol.
SebastianHaff by Zarles	Apr 9th, 2007 07:17:08 PM
You and me both. I'd plunk down $40 for that sumbitch right now.
QT should've taken a tip from Beyond the Valley of the by LaneMyersClassic	Apr 9th, 2007 07:21:39 PM
Dolls. There is more high quality T&A in 5 minutes of that movie than all of GrindHouse features combined. BTVD also had stupid dialogue, bad-ass rock, gore, murder and drugs. But the boobies and ass were plentiful and gorgeous.
It has no audience outside of its audience... by Alonzo Mosely	Apr 9th, 2007 07:31:53 PM
That is the problem pure and simple... Those original grindhouse movies weren't money making machines, why did they believe making this would equal huge boxoffice? Let it run its course, let it go abroad, sell the dvds as separate and as a completed box set with some silly kitsch gift. Then make a super special dvd with bonus new fake trailers... The end result will be it made money, but they real expected this to do big opening numbers?
IF I WERE HARVEY OR BOB by The Real MiraJeff	Apr 9th, 2007 07:32:10 PM
I think I would cut my losses, yank the film and re-release it as soon as possible, separately, with the missing reels re-inserted, AND I'd offer like a $2 or $3 rebate with each ticket stub. Because if people really wanna see both films, right now they can for let's say, on average, 11 bucks. Let's just say that's the price of a movie ticket even though it gets way higher in major cities like NY and LA. Now obviously theaters won't slash their prices, but if Weinstein Co. offered a little cash back, and charged like 8 bucks to see it, then they'd be making 16 bucks off someone who wanted to see both films. Plus there's the repeat business from people who may only wanna revisit one of the films. I know that in concept, these two films were the perfect double-bill, but from a marketing standpoint, they sort of appeal to two very different groups of people. Rodriguez's film could've opened to Hostel like numbers because auds love zombie films and they love hardcore horror. People would've understood Rodriguez's film more if it had its own standalone advertising material. Tarantino on the other hand, has a more high-brow cult following who absolutely would've embraced this flick more if it wasn't buried behind Planet Terror, which by the end of that film, you're exhausted. You've been taken on a wild, crazy thrill ride through a zombie apocalypse. Now you have to watch another 90 min film? That's a lot to ask of the audience. I think it might've helped a little if Tarantino's film went first to set the mood, and then let Rodriguez run wild. Cuz Planet Terror would keep your ass awake once that 2nd hour rolls around. Keep in mind I loved both films, but I can imagine how, after being in the theater for 100 mins, people might've felt a little worn out, and then they have to wait for like 45 mins for anything crazy to happen in Death Proof. I mean, if these films were released independently of one another, they each would've opened to better numbers than they did together, but then again, it wouldn't have been as much of a big movie-going event. I think the domestic box office is still salvageable and I think the film will have decent legs through April even if the Weinsteins don't do anything and decide to stick to the plan, because there isn't that much else coming out this month except for Hot Fuzz, and that won't open to boffo biz either. April is the Weinsteins for the taking, as long as the mediocre films Disturbia and Fracture don't come out of left field to win a weekend. Point is, if they do change the release up, they have to do it soon because Spiderman 3 opens in less than a month!
Length is NOT the Issue! by localone	Apr 9th, 2007 07:32:18 PM
Regardless of the length I saw this movie twice over the weekend and was in no way sad about it. This movie going experience is amazing and cutting it up for the purpose of patronization is a slap in the face to what rodriguez/tarantino were trying to do. People will here how amazing this film is and go. Just give it time. Oh, and there no easter bunny so next weekend should be much better.
Too smart for most, too crude for some by Lemo	Apr 9th, 2007 07:34:39 PM
Saw the late showing Saturday and laughed my ass off the whole time. I honestly thing the mouth breathers would never understand 3/4 of Deathproof and anyone who can't laugh at over the top gore for what it is would hate it.
That would fucking suck!!!! by MikeHoncho	Apr 9th, 2007 07:36:38 PM
The reason this is one of my favoirtie movies is becuase the experience in the theatre was unlike anything else. I had such a great time with seeing one thing and immidiately moving into something new. If they did that, the movies would not be the same. The reason it is so much fun and they work so well is that they just go together, and to separate them would be terrible.
Mouth breather? by RonJeremyIrons	Apr 9th, 2007 07:38:11 PM
Good one, Dr. Lemo
omarthesnake and the "anti-DP crowd" by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 07:44:23 PM
Fuck ya'll, whach some french films. Those girl were super cool. The whole thing was cool. Childe Roland, missed your comment you sack of shit. I did look like anthony michael hall. Now I don't and I have a perfect dick. Also I think you missed my sarcasm about ol' QT being "G.O.D.". I guess Dry wit is wasted some of you rotten little twats just like my love advice. My dick gotta eat!
I cant spell by gride9000	Apr 9th, 2007 07:46:02 PM
so dis on me for somting elssse
FlopHouse by revcrowbar	Apr 9th, 2007 07:46:54 PM
Why is everyone trying justify the reason why the movie didn't do well? Did anyone really think this movie was at all marketable? Of course this movie was going to fail. "This movie is like the old grindhouse movies from the 70's" Okay, so that it means it supposed to be good. If they wanted to be authentic, they would hired no-names (Bruce Willis, Rosario Dawson,and Kurt Russell aren't exactly struggling actors), filmed it in 8MM, and wouldn't purposefully "scratched" and "burned" the film. Nice try QT, but napes to you
Money Trouble by hallmitchell	Apr 9th, 2007 07:50:32 PM
Q.T. and R.R are the big money earners for Weinstein. He has just tied up his two money earners in one big flop. He must be sweating rivers.
Bad Idea...... by Legend67	Apr 9th, 2007 07:51:26 PM
Why on earth would anyone go and see one movie when they could've viewed both a couple of weeks before? Let's see: Nine dollars for one film, or nine dollars for two? Hmmmm. I'll have to think about that one.
Why Easter is a garbage excuse. by hallmitchell	Apr 9th, 2007 07:52:03 PM
Remember when the Weinsteins put out Scream over Xmas and everyone said they were smart because all that was out was family movies and Scream made alot of money. So don't blame Easter.
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