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Moriarty Covers The DISNEY ShoWest Event!!!

Thanks by peekaboo	Mar 12th, 1999 06:01:27 AM
My thanks to Moriarty, for a job well done. Your description really gave a feel for the whole convention. Take a few days off when you get back to the labs. You've earned it. Dominating the world can wait a little while
Worth It? by Walter Burns	Mar 12th, 1999 06:04:45 AM
Definately. Many thankks for this - I have enjoyed reading your reports. Re: Disney - Tarzan sounds pretty reasonable, but the songs the songs..... The eternal complaint of the animation fan. Was any mention made at the Diz presentation (or the Miramax one) of the release of Monamake Hime (spelling?) - now THAT is something I'm really looking forwards to - though I'm harbouring 2 fears here - 1) that they will change the movie to make it more 'kid friendly', and 2) that it won't get distributed here in the UK (Kiki didn't). Reassurance on both points would make me very happy!
HIghly Enjoyable by lynnbracken	Mar 12th, 1999 07:10:21 AM
Loved every second of it. If you felt sad when it was over, I felt sad when I finished reading it. Luckily, our AS/400 system is down so I can't work and have been able to spend the morning so far reading up. I can't wait to get the report on the Awards Ceremony. Since you'll be at the labs, you can take your time. Don't leave anything out! I agree that the Fox people should have given more. I'm really surprised. You'd think they would know that Disney could conceiveably kick their butts and really rise to the occasion. Oh well. Not that it changes my high excitement about seeing TPM. But anyway, thanks for the wonderful descriptions. You are a really lucky person.
Is that it? by JudgeWD	Mar 12th, 1999 07:32:29 AM
So you got to see a surprise "premiere" or rather a sneak preview of Tarzan. Great. The movie sounds wonderful and all, and that definitely sounds like a great presentation for the movie... But, why nothing else? Does Disney have NOTHING else on its plater to show the public? Is Trzan the only thing we should expect from them this year? As cool as that movie may be... it sounds like you got a great presentation so they don't have to address any more of their upcoming schedule, if there is anything beyond Tarzan... No Buena Vista releases either? No mention of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Bicentennial Man? Dinosaurs? Nothing on INSPECTOR GADGET? The Sixth Sense? Summer of Sam? 13th Warrior? How about any Pixar related films.. Toy Story 2? These are possible big hits.. some slated for this year, some for next.... Sure would have thought a little info. about these might have been useful, at least in addition to Tarzan.
I can understand Lucasfilm/Fox. by Pope Buck 1	Mar 12th, 1999 07:55:37 AM
The difference between Disney (who went all out with bells, whistles, and "extras" in presenting "Tarzan") and Lucas/Fox is that Lucas/Fox already know that their movie IS the event movie of the summer, and therefore have nothing to prove, while Disney has definite competition from DWorks, Fox, and even (bleah) Warners for their animated product these days. As was pointed out the other night on TV, Lucas has been in a position of WITHHOLDING information about his movie in order to avoid the kind of over-hype that killed "Godzilla." This is so refreshing, when we've all gotten used to knowing every detail about a movie - from the trailers alone! - by the time we walk into the theatre, that the anti-hype has become hype in its own right. Face it, even if Lucas didn't release one more frame of this movie or buy one 30-second commercial spot, he already has the summer in his pocket. What exactly would be served by over-exposing it?
I can understand Lucasfilm/Fox. by Pope Buck 1	Mar 12th, 1999 08:04:48 AM
The difference between Disney (who went all out with bells, whistles, and "extras" in presenting "Tarzan") and Lucas/Fox is that Lucas/Fox already know that their movie IS the event movie of the summer, and therefore have nothing to prove, while Disney has definite competition from DWorks, Fox, and even (bleah) Warners for their animated product these days. As was pointed out the other night on TV, Lucas has been in a position of WITHHOLDING information about his movie in order to avoid the kind of over-hype that killed "Godzilla." This is so refreshing, when we've all gotten used to knowing every detail about a movie - from the trailers alone! - by the time we walk into the theatre, that the anti-hype has become hype in its own right. Face it, even if Lucas doesn't release one more frame of this movie or buy one 30-second commercial spot between now and May 19, he already has the summer in his pocket. What exactly would be served by over-exposing it?
Tarzan's first 30... by Prankster	Mar 12th, 1999 08:07:24 AM
I'm not privvy to any special exhibitor conferences or anything (except SIGGRAPH), I don't have any secret inside sources, I don't know anyone high up in the industry, but I HAVE managed to see a fair amount of Tarzan footage, just by searching the web and other places. And it seems to me...that the first 30 minutes are the LAME part. Li'l baby Tarzan is SOOOOOO annoying, nothing like the stoic fighter we see in the trailer. Phil Collins' music seemed a tad overdone at the point when the Mama ape first discovers Tarzan. And Rosie and Wayne Knight both make their obnoxious entrances. Only Lance Henriksen made me say, "cool". The later part of the movie I haven't seen much of, but he's fighting Leopards and babboons, Swinging through the trees like a maniac, having a love affair with Jane...how could that be worse than the first 30 minutes?
Of course... by Evil Dead	Mar 12th, 1999 08:45:16 AM
...Disney was better. They are DISNEY, you know the Undisputed Champions of family entertainment? Of course they put a better show on, but when it comes down to the wire of May 19th it becomes apparently clear who the champion is. Fox and Lucas does not need any extra publicity, they brought themselves and Star Wars. The names alone sell the film.
Moriarty, RAMBO 4 and FORMULA ONE??? by ABking	Mar 12th, 1999 09:11:48 AM
Moriarty, was there any promotional posters or anything of that sort at the Miramax bash dealing with RAMBO 4 or FORMULA ONE?
will someone explain why rosie o' donnel is so popular by spike lee	Mar 12th, 1999 09:46:42 AM
Rosie O' Donnel is as funny as cancer, but she still seems to get these great gigs. I cant believe people actually watch her show and find it entertaining. Her only audience is housewives who would find anything amusing, after hearing screaming babies all day. I have seen the show once and all Rosie does is sing about stuff she likes (Donuts and Tom Cruise) who cares what you like you pig. I can just see her interview Stanley Kubrick before he passed. "Hey Stan, how was it to see Tom Cruise nude everyday, and do you like stuffing your face with twinkies like I do?"
DWD: HOW TO TELL WHEN YOU'VE BEEN HOSED by DwDunphy	Mar 12th, 1999 09:59:41 AM
Disney has no confidence in Tarzan. Here's why. Rather than letting it stand on it's own merits, the movie is coupled with a Phil Collins concert? Isn't that diverting! Plus, no matter how many times the public says, "We're sick of the Disney formula", they throw superstar voices, distracting comic relief and, worst of all, the dreaded musical numbers into every damned film. I am not against musical numbers WHEN DONE RIGHT. Lately however, Disney has shown that it is all just obligatory to them. Lucasfilm has it right, Moriarty. Screw the hype. Let the movie stand on it's own. I'd like to see Tarzan succeed, just to bring animation back to the fore. But this reeks of another dead albatross around Eisner's neck.
Harry, Harry, Harry... by Uncle Cracky	Mar 12th, 1999 10:49:40 AM
after reading the line "...could have been the first ILLUSTRATED MOVIE..." I almost tossed my cookies (Girl Scout Tagalongs, mmmmmmm...). Excuse me? Haven't you heard of a little film called "AKIRA"??? American animation is so far behind it's pathetic. The only decent animated film to come out of an American studio lately has been "Cats Don't Dance." And that was from WARNER BROS., for Pete's sake(hi, Pete)! Disney has no future, no potential, no area to grow into. All it can do is make the same damn films over and over again. Kind of like AC/DC's albums...
team rat by angel	Mar 12th, 1999 02:48:55 PM
so disney pretty much bought you all out...what else is new? disney stole thunder by having the bland phil collins perform 'sususudio' (arguably the worst song of the 80's)? more like stealing a lightning bug...fortunately, disney can give you all the free shit in the world, feed you til you puke, od you on their cheap gifts, but it won't make anybody less excited about 'star wars'--and i'm not even of the slavish geeks who think that 'sw' is the second coming--if people want phil collins and rosie o'donell over john williams and liam neeson, well, the unwashed masses have spoken. a nice report, moriarty, but don't be such a shill for the greediest media conglomerate in the world.
To Angel! by Walter	Mar 12th, 1999 05:49:21 PM
Requoting yourself "The greediest media conglomerate in the world" What are you talking about? True, Swan Princess got killed, Anastasia overshadowed, and Prince nailed, but just consider what those guys want. Fox, Warner, and Dreamworks have no need for producing animation. They're making big bucks with their live action films and Disney doesn't do any harm to those films. They mainly value their animated films and the reputation they've received over the decades. It's necessary for their desire to hold the monopoly over that market. Because if they don't, it will be a likwise threat to the company in the future(Just as Microsoft attempting to block out Netscape-there's no mercy in the business world.) And if you want to talk about greediness, consider Don Bluth and Jeffery Katzenberg wanting to seek vengeance when after leaving Disney. Or speaking of overall studio, again the other guys have no need of making animation when they have good business in live-action flicks, it just makes sense that we should see envy or vengeance going on inside. Disney on the other hand, have been making animated features for 75 years and the premier studio to do so. Therefore, there's no blame for what they do in the animation market. I don't have a problem with your obsession with Star Wars, and you should care less for anyone's gloating of Tarzan because it won't hurt a penny of Fox and Lucas. On the other hand, no one knows just yet whether which movie will make more bucks at the box office, so don't just assume that Tarzan is like nothing against the other just for your sake of obsession with that other one. (Yes, I mean Star Wars).
Tom Crowe by 6662000	Mar 12th, 1999 06:02:46 PM
crowe_t@juno.com What's your e-mail address? Your mom gave me something that didn't work. Man, I'm wondering if you'll ever find this message. Here's where I find out if you read all the responses you get or just the ones you told Scott to write. Great website, excellent writing on your part. I'm an e-mailing fool, so drop a line. Tell Scott to do the same. You guys don't have to wait until you're rich to catch me up to date. I'm interested in the process more than the end result, which I am certain will be success. I have the faith now: You boys crazy, you boys get there sure.
The artistic contribution of Phil Collins' "Sussudio" to '80s cu by METHOS	Mar 13th, 1999 01:52:50 AM
I loved your coverage, Moriarty. But I have to agree with the esteemed Lane Myers that any further infliction of Sussudio could be deadly. Indeed, it may well be the real Phantom Menace. I'm gonna go listen to some Pixies to wash away the terrifying image of Phil Collins in Vegas with all those lost souls and Fulci zombies hitting the dance floor. Heaven or Las Vegas?
Star Wars vs. Tarzan? Are we really being serious? by Maruku	Mar 13th, 1999 12:50:25 PM
The reviewer himself makes a point of illustrating frustration with the many flaws in Tarzan. Meanwhile people are betting each other as to whether or not Star Wars has a chance of making more money than Titanic. And then the reviewer goes on to berate the Star Wars show because the Tarzan show gave away more spoilers. I personally cannot agree with this attitude. I applaud Lucas for not letting everyone know everything about The Phantom Menace months before they can even see for themselves. The fact that Disney seems to need to do the opposite merely suggests to me just how desperate they are to convince people that they actually have something entertaining (for the first half, at any rate) after all these years.
Moriarty by Walter	Mar 13th, 1999 03:52:41 PM
Why are some people here ignorantly comparing Star Wars and Tarzan when the two are completey different movies of different genres? The fact that Moriarty was pleased by Disney's offer on Tarzan and the wonderful presentation they kicked off doesn't mean that there is an actually comparison between the two films. He simply suggested that Disney knows how to please some first fans more than Fox and Lucas did, and this is simply just a matter of personal opinions. Sure, come people(including myself) would prefer a movie less shown beforehand for the extra excitement, but maybe an individual like Moriarty was deeply pleased that Disney actually showed the entire film(Tarzan) along with special benefits of merchandise and music, which he believes is a good way of pleasing and getting some first audience acclaim of their product. Disney didn't do this to overhype and gravitate audiences away from Star Wars or any movie in particular. They simply wanted to favor the audience that actually came to the presentation to support their film. Just as they did with the big presentations and massive premiers they threw off with "Mulan" and "A Bug's Life." These special kick-offs are useless for hyping a movie because the amount of audience that shows up there, doesn't get the whole world to go see the movie. On the other hand, Fox and Lucas have no need of hyping Star Wars for they already have a hold of fans out there ready to see any Star Wars movies whether it's good or bad. But in actuality, they are hyping. How can a movie that is announced half a year before it is released and tied in on every broadcast, web, and such media not considered a hype? I'm not going to comment much on Star Wars for I haven't seen the film either have any of you, but I hope you realize the fact that somebody choosing one movie's show premier over the other doesn't mean that it will hurt the other in box office as well as public appeal. Star Wars definitely has a good chance of succeding it's dollars for the overknown name, but that doesn't mean Tarzan won't make a buck. The two are completely different movies, and so there's no reason for audiences to not see both. After all, we still don't know which will dominate more at the box office, so let's not assume that one is already superior to the other. For the individual who said Disney has no future, I'm sad to say that is a very ignorant thing to state. Disney is on course of releasing it's 37th animated film and beyond, together with box office successfuls as well as worldwide audience and critical acclaim. A studio like that is very highly accomplished and successful to its public. Finally, in regards to anyone who finds Disney characters singing very displeasing(Myself included), don't worry. Tarzan is composed of only background music sang by one of the top singers in the industry, Phil Collins. On a personal level, I thought many of Tarzan's song that I've heard are actually very good. And if you totally hate music in an animated film, Atlantis of 2000 has no songs. This proves that Disney is gradually changing its course. Not that all prior Disney films suck, just that Tarzan and so on will be a new treat for anyone who's ever claim to hate the Disney tradition. Let's just wait and view these films before we make any unneccesary criticism.
Mr. M, misunderstood. imo by fnord	Mar 14th, 1999 04:09:13 PM
Greets, just danced on to add me own opinion to the masses. I keep reading comments on how Lucas doesn't need to showcase his movie cause it's gunna be bigger than jesus. But mine eyes were not interpreting Moriarty's postings in that avenue. I think he was simply saying (and rightly so) that the theatre's are the last line before our overly public eyes scan in history at 24fps; that theatre owners are more than just fans, they are an intregal part of the whole process. And in that vein, I agree that meybe the theatre owners should be made to feel like part of the family, instead of just the mailprojectors. But, y'know, that's just my opinion. Thanks fer the postings Moriarty; they were entertaining and informative. Wish I wuz there.
The lion king would quicjkly devour Tarzan. by Wolfpack	Jul 12th, 2006 07:50:27 AM

Gaaak! Spelling! by Wolfpack	Jul 14th, 2006 08:05:51 AM

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