I'll go so far as to bring up fanboys' hate for Transformers. Even when people like me say, "Hey, I just wanna go to a fun flick and see robots fucking transform and kickass", fanboys scream "If that's all you want, then you're part of the problem of Hollywood making shitty movies." Well my friends, if you're against Transformers and hold that opinion against people who do want to just have a blast seeing it, and then go against anyone that talks down to GRINDHOUSE basically as being nothing more than big names making a vanity piece on shitty movies, then you my friends ARE hypocrits. Sorry to say. "B-but... it's different with Grindhouse. It's QT. It's an homage to..."

.., an homage to, shitty movies. Hey, I'm not ripping on people that will have a fun theater experience. Nothing wrong with that at all. Fun is good. But it's just funny to see A) What HYPE AICN can create on movies that they even admit are crappy, and B) How when the tables are turned on certain TBers (i.e. Transformers vs. Grindhouse support), the justifications that they stand by for one film doesn't really apply to any others that they aren't looking forward to. "But with Transformers we're talking about source material that stems from our childhood... yada yada yada". I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a general movie going fun experience.. which can happen just as much with Transformers as with Grindhouse.

But we'll agree to disagree. I know. I'm an asshole. But we can't suck each other's dick all of the time on TBs, right?? Some people have to balance things out:) Regardless, I'll see the flick for two reasons... Kurt Russell and Michael Biehn. Because for some reason, Hollywood doesn't give them enough work!

I dunno whose bright idea it was to split Grindhouse up into two seperate films instead of one "double feature" but come on, it's bullshit. In fact...if it comes down to a choice between watching Planet Terror and Death Proof seperately, and pirating and downloading the whole film from a torrent...I'm afraid to say I'd choose a download...after all watching a film in shitty quality without paying to see it..that's grindhouse. And I don't promote piracy, but I'm really tempted to make an exception in this case.

Mori, do you know anything about this? Is it just being split up in Germany or is it happening all over Europe? Somebody seriously needs to ask QT and RR why they're allowing the studio...or whoever to fuck up their intended vision to view these films.

Here's their website address: http://www.libertyfilmfestival .com/libertas/

Just copy and paste it into your browser and it will take you there straight away!

While I felt the reviewer was msguided in his opinion of the film, what will REALLY to get you riled up are the "user comments" that are already starting to pop up. One guy doesn't even like the fact the site REVIEWED Grindhouse, calling it "warped crap". These people are the enemy, folks!

So lets show them who's boss. It only takes a few minutes to register, and you can show these political wonks whats up when you mess with quality filmmaking. I'd comment myself, but unfortunatley the site has some kind of glitch thats only letting me post 3 comments every few days...and those comments were used up earlier today on another article. But that won't affect you.

So if you've seen and loved Grindhouse, what are you waiting for? Get over there and defend this movie...teach these jackasses what happens when you mess with exploitation movies!!

As for the Tarantino film, its understandable that opinions are divided. I admit that it is very dialogue-heavy, but I actually liked much of the dialogue, even as I found myself wishing there had been one (just one!) more group of girls killed before the grand finale. It would definitely have livened the film up a bit more...I have a feeling QT had to rush this one, but it was still very good...and I felt the dialogue was (the ending with Bill aside) the best dialogue he's written since Pulp Fiction.

Oh, and to the talkbacker who said this was the first time Tarantino homaged dialogue from his earlier films...what about the "that'd be about square" line from Kill Bill and the "this some repugnant shit" line from Jackie Brown. Like it or not (and personally, I don't), QT has recycled lines before.

I don't know why some people on here seem to be almost giddy about the prospect of this film failing. Trust me, you do not want this movie to fail if you love exploitation cinema. They're planning to release all sorts of vintage films (like Rolling Thunder, a film I've been dying to see since forever) as part of the "Grindhouse" label they want to start...not to mention sequels by other directors. That will all be cancelled if this film isn't a hit...so check this movie out and let the naysayers be damned. The 3 hours fly by and I already want to see it again. Grindhouse rocks!

the dialogue stuff was definitely to be expected... my only problem with it Death Proof was that...

I wanted to see more Kurt Russell... The man hasn't lost a single step...

One is that QT really should quit acting in movies. Have no problem with a cameo. Two (from THE KNIGHT) is that I wish that there would have been more Kurt Russell. Great part for a great actor.

Other than those minor things I had a heck of a time. Went late knowing I had to get up early for work. When a movie is that good it was well worth being tired.

Wow, I'm pissed for you! I guess the people that clean the theatre don't care too much huh...

Full Grindhouse experience indeed!

I'll die and go to heaven if we have events up here like in Austin... Come on Harry, help us out! :)

Planet Terror was great fun, but none of the deaths mean anything. The five girls Stuntman Mike kills, resonate. My theater had long cheers at the end.

ReallY? No offense, Mori, but you must've been going to different horror movies than me the last 20 odd years or so because the overly whiny, cookie cutter, stereotypical horny and dumb as a brick teenagers that have completely occupied (and ruined) far too many horror films ARE the reason I've found myself sitting in a darkened theater, munching on my popcorn, and suddenly thinking "Yeah, YOU can go. For wasting my time and pissing me off by being such an utter retard onscreen, you can't get it brutally enough. Oh, wait, your blonde bimbo cheerleader girlfriend? Yeah, she's gotta go too. GO VILLAIN!"

I enjoy watching the killings...they are the most fun parts of the film, without doubt...I laugh at the cliched "girl runs UPstairs to escape when she should run out the front door" moments and what guy doesn't enjoy the required nude scene?

But ultimately, while the gore and the popcorn killings are fun to watch, there's always going to be one survivor, one person who manages to kill the killer and survive. And yeah, I root for her (survivor usually is female). It's not that I become emotionally connected to the character, or that I like her or anything, it's more to do with the idea that the killer has to be stopped and killed himself at some point. Sure, I like the knife going through the chest, or the stupid bitch getting trapped in the doggy door...it's fun, mindless entertainment, but at the end of the film, I still want the killer to end up dead...he is a violent, sick and twisted bastard after all.

Mori, you talked about Freddy Kreuger...I don't think that it's really about wanting him to win...I think most people want the good guys to win, but it doesn't mean we can't have some fun watching him slice and dice his way through some stupid teenagers along the way. It's the same with Jason or the "Scream" killers...we want them dead...but we also want to see them kill a lot of people in gruesome, vile ways first.

Let's face it...most people don't watch slashers for the engaging plot or the likeable character...more often than not, those elements don't even exist. We watch slashers to be entertained by cartoon violence and to see the hot chick shoot the bad guy at the end, just as the police arrive, 5 hours too late.

Is there an element of morality there? I suppose. It's mostly about balance. The killer can chop the heads off as many stupid teens as he likes as long as he ends up dead by the end. It's as simple as that.

Hell, one of the most enjoyable things about those films is predicting who is going to live and who is going to die. Usually, there is a girl, the heroine...and sometimes a guy...oh and obviously any children. Everyone else ends up dead, including the killer.

I actually think most people do root for the killer, at least up until the final act. They don't want him to win, but they want him to kill as many people as possible before he meets the same fate.

To fear for the victims lives, you have to connect with them, and I don't think there are many horrors that manage to achieve that. What I would like to see is a film where everone dies, including the obvious heroine. Not because I'm rooting for the killer, but because it's unfortunately a more real reflection on the world we live in.

Why is it that a guy can kill a dozen people quite easily, but at the end, some naive girl manages to outwit him? I'd like to see an ending where the girl dies too...that would be scarier and makes it all too real.

You know Luke is going to destroy the Death Star, you know Superman will find a way to bring Lois back to life, you know that Neo is "The One". These films deal with fantasy and so do horrors.

But I would like to see a film where the girl doesn't win. Supernatural horrors are slightly different I suppose, but the serial killer slashers...I don't want the bad guy to win, but at the same time I kinda do, not because I'm rooting for him, but because it brings the film much closer to reality, and that's far scarier than "Sydney" surviving three mass murders.

I'm one of those guys who sees Quentin Tarantino as a lot of potential without direction or motivation. I'm a fan of his stories or, more explicitly, his characters (which is why Kill Bill, with its almost total lack of coherent story or genuine characterization, pissed me off so much).

I had pretty much resigned myself to the idea that QT was perfectly content to ignore his potential in deference to a lifetime of living his childhood dreams by emulating them (and their source material) in grotesquely exxaggerated detail ont he big screen. I had no expectations for Death Proof other than that it might be amusingly sick and over the top. Now you've gone and piqued my curiosity.