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Moriarty’s Been To The GRINDHOUSE!!

Yes! by Jimmie Dimmick	Apr 5th, 2007 08:06:46 PM
FRRRRRRRUNKIS!
Man this movie is going to be FUN by SirFlibble	Apr 5th, 2007 08:06:47 PM
Damn Australia always gets things so much later...
Was alone in this by Chifoilisk	Apr 5th, 2007 08:23:14 PM
I actually had no desire to see this until this review - I'm sold
Can't wait for this by chiahead	Apr 5th, 2007 08:30:19 PM
I love it when a film(s) exceed expectation. That it's more than just camp and revamp (or at least according to Mori) is encouraging...
Ladies, we're gonna have some fun! by WildcatWildcat	Apr 5th, 2007 08:40:02 PM
I hope to enjoy the whole Grindhouse experience as much as you Moriarty. Your review is pure dynamite.
'Restored Versions'? That's fucking GENIUS! by Flim_	Apr 5th, 2007 08:52:07 PM
Boss! Can NOT wait to see this. These. Them.
Incidentally, Moriarty... by Flim_	Apr 5th, 2007 08:56:45 PM
Your review here is probably one of the best I've ever read. Well reasoned, exciting, and without fault. Sometimes I wonder why I keep coming back to this site, what with all the bickering and film-bitchery (I'm looking at you, MERRICK, you snobby bitch. Indeed, I am aware of the irony here...), and you've reminded me again tonight of what can sometimes come of what is essentially a fanboy free-for-all. Really, keep up the good work!
I said HOT DAMN, What a RUSH!!! by bob oblaw	Apr 5th, 2007 09:13:02 PM
Got my tix, baby!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!
Got my tickets by gothfae	Apr 5th, 2007 09:27:46 PM
Got my tickets for the Village Alamo, and looking forward to a beer and a Enter the Dragon. Woo!
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Apr 5th, 2007 09:32:07 PM
Damn you Michael Bay
I am so stoked for this beast that I just hope... by DirkBelig	Apr 5th, 2007 09:37:19 PM
...I'm not a little let down by the actual movie because it doesn't live up to what I've anticipated.
I know I'm not first......... by Legend67	Apr 5th, 2007 09:38:45 PM
...but I've never been this high up before. .........wow.
No midnight show where I am by Mr Bonefish	Apr 5th, 2007 09:57:03 PM
Man, sometimes it doesn't pay to live in the boonies. I should have caught a flight to civilization where I could hang out with you crazy mofo's and watch the show. ah well.
seen it too by The Southerner	Apr 5th, 2007 09:57:03 PM
I wrote a review and sent it in to this site. It wasn't posted and I would like to say thank you. I'd only seen it once and really didn't let it gel in my mind. Moriarty, you pointed to things that I originally hated, but now hearing your point of view and perception, I'm actually a little enlightened. I need to see them again, especially Death proof. Planet Terror never let up. It just hit you over and over. Then Death proof comes and it felt like a snail with all the talking. But i can see what your saying and it makes sense. And Mori, you are right on about the car chase-THAT i don't need time to think about!
Cannot freaking wait... by luckylindy	Apr 5th, 2007 10:16:26 PM
Just got one class tomorrow then it's the muthafuckin Grindhouse! I do not remember being this excited for a movie in a really long time. Mori's review makes me salivate at what awaits me. awesome review
Ballsy. by Psycho_Kenshin	Apr 5th, 2007 10:36:45 PM
Thats a ballsy review right there, good stuff. Only at the GRINDHOUSE.
You're like the rest by electroaddict	Apr 5th, 2007 10:36:58 PM
Dear Mr. M, I always come to AICN for my scifi/horror/entertainment news, and your site does do a great job of supplying said information before anyone else. And, of all the reviewers/commentators I agreed with over the years on this site, you were my favorite. Harry and the others seemed like "sell-outs" (to use a term I hate myself)- but you always came across to me like a free thinker... UNTIL you sided with the MPAA over the latest 'snuff film' soon to hit the theaters. I don't even remember what it was titled. I don't enjoy those kind of "snuff" films AT ALL. But you went on some kind of moral crusade against this film to "protect" the innocence of your child. Okay, so you've become a big pussy, whatever. A lot of people in this country are pussies. But then you praise a film like "Grindhouse", which is full of sex and violence, just days after your pathetic, moralistic, 'save the children' based rant against aformentioned "snuff film"? You've lost all credibility with me, and this site as a whole is SHIT. I'll continue to come here to hear the latest news, but as far as commentary, you can (now) ALL fuck yourselves. Your collective opinions mean nothing from this point on. The last lighthouse has flickered into darkness.
Well God Damn by EdRyder	Apr 5th, 2007 10:45:55 PM
I didnt think I could be more geeked to see this.Damn good write up Mori.I live in jerkwater so ,I dont think Il be seein this till Saturday night (weak)
I've been up and down with this flick by underscore_only	Apr 5th, 2007 10:58:37 PM
One minute I super want to see, next I wanna wait till DVD. Sometimes I'm psyched (after watching "Thanksgiving"), other times I'm inexplicably "meh" about it.(Hate when people bitch about things like this, but the Missing Reel thing was kinda grating on me). Luckily, this review lifted me again and I can't wait to check it out tomorrow!
Great review by Darth Thoth	Apr 5th, 2007 11:18:24 PM
Really good read. Now I'm really souped for tomorrow. I have my midnight show tix in Times Square. It's on baby! Grindhouse baby!
87% at rottentomatoes..... by Quake II	Apr 5th, 2007 11:48:52 PM
which is fantastic for a gory, sexy, loud exploitation tribute movie. I like how some critics dislike Deathproof and others dislike Planet Terror. Grindhouse will be a great way to guage the IQ level of the audience. My guess is that DeathProof is 10x smarter and more engaging than Planet Terror. Tarantino is the real deal and Rodriguez is a hyper active kid with a camera.
luckylindy...I agree. by Quake II	Apr 6th, 2007 12:13:47 AM
I wasn't this excited about the last 2 Star Wars films. This is THE summer movie for me this year.
...I just hope... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 6th, 2007 12:23:50 AM
...QT doesnt drop the N bomb, I mean, he does have one black girl in it (2 if u wanna count Rosario in some way)...love QT, but HATE when he blubbers it all over the place..."do you see a sign for dead N-storage?"...
Why would QT drop a nuclear bomb? by IAmJack'sUserID	Apr 6th, 2007 12:30:31 AM
Seriously, I don't think a nuclear weapon would factor into this movie. And what does black girls have to do with nuclear weapons? Is this a Kanye thing or something? I know he thinks AIDs or something was parachuted into certain black neighborhoods by the gobment, but surely if they fucking NUKED a ghetto, we'd done heard about it by now.
You know what this "HYPE" sounds like? SOAP!! by moto	Apr 6th, 2007 12:32:28 AM
To the tee, it sounds like right before SNAKES ON A PLANE debuted. Harry was gooing all over it. Quint was the same. Moriarty too (with all due respect... nothing wrong with liking a movie) Etc. Etc. Etc. Fanboys were pumped beyond belief of AICN's positive coverage of the movie. They said, yeah, it's a ridiculous flick, but it's supposed to be that way and it's meant to be celebrated as a fun theater experience. SOUNDS EXACTLY like GRINDHOUSE. The ONLY dark horse factors are the names Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez. But then again, good ole Sam Jackson was in SOAP. The Hype is near identical, as is the enthusiasm. And we all know what happened when SOAP debuted. It came and went like a silent fart that didn't even bother to stink. I'll go so far as to bring up fanboys' hate for Transformers. Even when people like me say, "Hey, I just wanna go to a fun flick and see robots fucking transform and kickass", fanboys scream "If that's all you want, then you're part of the problem of Hollywood making shitty movies." Well my friends, if you're against Transformers and hold that opinion against people who do want to just have a blast seeing it, and then go against anyone that talks down to GRINDHOUSE basically as being nothing more than big names making a vanity piece on shitty movies, then you my friends ARE hypocrits. Sorry to say. "B-but... it's different with Grindhouse. It's QT. It's an homage to..." .., an homage to, shitty movies. Hey, I'm not ripping on people that will have a fun theater experience. Nothing wrong with that at all. Fun is good. But it's just funny to see A) What HYPE AICN can create on movies that they even admit are crappy, and B) How when the tables are turned on certain TBers (i.e. Transformers vs. Grindhouse support), the justifications that they stand by for one film doesn't really apply to any others that they aren't looking forward to. "But with Transformers we're talking about source material that stems from our childhood... yada yada yada". I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a general movie going fun experience.. which can happen just as much with Transformers as with Grindhouse. But we'll agree to disagree. I know. I'm an asshole. But we can't suck each other's dick all of the time on TBs, right?? Some people have to balance things out:) Regardless, I'll see the flick for two reasons... Kurt Russell and Michael Biehn. Because for some reason, Hollywood doesn't give them enough work!
I was never hyped for snakes on a plane... by luckylindy	Apr 6th, 2007 12:55:18 AM
I still haven't seen it and really don't plan on going to in the near future. It just didn't seem like that good of a movie, or even that fun for that matter. I tend to look at whos leading the project more than who's acting in it. I like Sam and all but he shoulda been more selective for SOAP. I'll end up seeing Transformers cuz hey...splosions, and that's what Bay is good at. Rodriguez and Tarantino are great for genre flicks which i think justifies my enthusiasm. But you know what Moto? Kurt Russell was laughing pretty hard, so i guess it's okay. Michael Biehn seemed to be enjoying himself too.
QuakeII by luckylindy	Apr 6th, 2007 01:00:19 AM
I know...but i hope that this movie doesn't blow my proverbial load too early...i mean it's hardly summer and we're already getting this fanboy erection on the big screen. Just hope Pirates and spidey don't disappoint.
FINALLY by THE KNIGHT	Apr 6th, 2007 01:13:54 AM
I shall read the review now...
moriarty could get me to see anything by the_shogun_gunslinger	Apr 6th, 2007 01:37:21 AM
there could be a movie called "Twilight of the Willows" featuring nothing more than Judi Dench taking a shit for 2 and a half hours and if he saud it was good id see it.
moto by Zarles	Apr 6th, 2007 01:51:15 AM
Don't worry about getting laid, because it's not gonna happen. Ever.
moto by the_shogun_gunslinger	Apr 6th, 2007 02:27:02 AM
ur kinda all over the place with that post. make up ur mind, man.
Avoid mega mega plexes theatres! by heavenlykid	Apr 6th, 2007 02:40:28 AM
This one should be seen in the shittiest theatre in your vicinity to accentuate the Grindhouse of it. No pressure, but that's my advice. Oh, and though I haven't seen Grindhouse yet, I'm going to make the predection that comparing SOAP to Grindhouse is sort of like comparing Christian Slater to Jack Nicholson.
Can Harry also weigh in with his analysis of Grindhouse by BDuncan	Apr 6th, 2007 02:45:47 AM
Excellent review Mori, can Harry also weigh in with his analysis of Grindhouse. It's a pity you have to reside outside North America to see longer, extended versions of the two films, as they're going to be shown separately internationally.
Tarantino and Rodriguez suck by Gluecifer	Apr 6th, 2007 02:57:49 AM
No money from me, fuckers! Instead of watching Tarantino (the guy who has invented cinema)'s latest piece of shit, I'm gonna re-watch Vanishing point and Duel instead.
Gluecifer..... by ronniepooch	Apr 6th, 2007 03:00:25 AM
poopie! lighten up. tarantino rules. :-) :-:) :-0:-:))_:_):-;0_:-0:-0:-;--;; -
Death Proof "missing reel" by captainCAPSLOCK	Apr 6th, 2007 03:02:02 AM
they had scenes for it in the trailer!!! it will be on the DVD for sure. the Austin group of chicks were lame as hell though...VERY shitty acting. the second portion ladies did the same 'round table forced Tarantino dialog scene' and pulled it off MUCH better. Rosario Dawson didn't annoy me for a change. if you're thinking about opening that door...DON'T they showed the Hobo trailer, but not the other 2. i would have gone nuts if they showed Maiden Of Death!
I really get tired of.. "when I read the script"... by Cotton McKnight	Apr 6th, 2007 03:07:10 AM
It's just annoying, that's all. I'm not saying Moriarty is lying, I just think it's annoying. We get it, dude, you're big time. You're hollywood. You know people. Whoopie.
oh yeah, Vanishing Point... by captainCAPSLOCK	Apr 6th, 2007 03:08:20 AM
it's gonna start selling like hotcakes just because of this movie. if your video store carries it, you'll have to be put on the waiting list.
Moriarty "screaming down the 170," yeah right by Daddylonghead	Apr 6th, 2007 03:31:51 AM
don't lie, you drive a minivan with a four-banger. A mid-90s Nissan Quest or some emasculated shit like that. The only "screams" coming out of that thing are when you roll back the sliding side door on its worn bearings.
Fuck YEAH!!!! by alucardvsdracula	Apr 6th, 2007 03:51:19 AM
Can't wait for this mother fucker, can't wait for this mother fucker. Mother fucker can't mother fuckin wait.
Shogun_Gunslinger, I'd be first in line for that flick. by Daddylonghead	Apr 6th, 2007 03:58:03 AM
And Ahole Ramirez, if you stick around for Death Proof (many in my theater walked during the first loooooong dialogue sequence), then prepare to be N-Bombed. Fair warning.
Ok, I´m sold! by joergn	Apr 6th, 2007 04:11:17 AM
Gotta see this one! And besides: Fuck those german distributors to release GRINDHOUSE as two movies, with a delay of 2 month or maybe more between and for not hyping or selling it to a hungry audience of fanboys! SCREW YOU!!!
yeah this movie rocked by Jon E Cin	Apr 6th, 2007 04:26:36 AM
Holy crap. Amazing. Best time I've had in a movie theater in a long long time.
Moto... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 04:43:13 AM
... find one place I "gooed" all over SNAKES ON A PLANE. Or where I even reviewed it well. I didn't even participate in the inexplicable nonsense ahead of time. You got the wrong guy if you think I had anything to do with the hype on that film.
Just got back from it at the Graumann's by iamnicksaicnsn	Apr 6th, 2007 05:09:00 AM
Wow, it was fucking brilliant. Rodriguez's was kick ass and fun, Tarantino's was hard-core and raw. Both had amazing actors and I'm glad they put it in the order they did. Tarantino's was totally a kick in the nuts and would have taken some of the "whoopee!" feel out of the experience. Which isn't to say it was bad, it was just more serious.
Electroaddict... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:09:05 AM
... you seem to have completely misunderstood the article you're referring to. I never spoke out about the content of the film. At all. The article was about the way a company did an end run around the process that EVERY releasing company has to comply with when putting together the ad campaign for their film. No hypocrisy. You just didn't understand it, or you're intentionally choosing to try and turn it into something it wasn't. If you want to storm off in a huff, feel free, but you're wrong about what you think I said.
Mr. Ramirez... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:11:56 AM
... Tracie Thoms is fairly liberal with her use of "the n-word," as you call it. Most of them were her own addition to the dialogue, so I'm not sure you can really lay all the blame on Quentin here. If it makes you uncomfortable, definitely take this as a warning. I think context is everything, and she uses it like salt and pepper on a meal, a punctuation mark more than anything.
Mori... by acorvey25	Apr 6th, 2007 05:14:19 AM
Pretty sure I saw you at the 11:00 P.M. New Beverly screening. It was everything I hoped it would be... Oh, and the movie is beyond cool.
and the trailers were fucking amazing as well. by iamnicksaicnsn	Apr 6th, 2007 05:18:17 AM
I really want to see "Don't" even though it would probably never work as a feature. "Thanksgiving" was great too and would probably make a great/crazy movie, and I'm glad I didn't spoil myself by watching it online. "Werewolf Women of the SS" was kinda disjointed though. Jesus, what a phenomenal experience. Can't wait to see Machete for real. Oh one criticism... all the breasts were in the trailers and there were none in the movies themselves. What's up with that?
Hey Moriarty, i love Kurt by LocoMotive	Apr 6th, 2007 05:24:48 AM
Hey Moriarty, i love Kurt Russel but come on! You're glad Rourke didn't play Stuntman Mike? Get the fuck outta here. Mickey would've been awesome. But we'll never know who'd be the better choice, now will we...
After Seeing It Again... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:29:10 AM
... for a third time now, there are a few more things I'd love to comment on. Consider this post very spoilery, something I tried to avoid in the actual review. I figure at this point, you guys are all actually able to see it. I think Rodriguez typically writes appropriate score for his films, but until now, I don't think he ever wrote a great theme. PLANET TERROR finally delivers that great theme. One of the things that always makes me laugh is when you have a bad-ass theme in a movie, and at some point, you get the "sad version" of that theme. Well, Robert does that here, and sure enough, it sends me into fits of laughter because of how dead-on it is. Naveen Andrews and his obssession with balls cracks me up, too. I think Bruce Willis absolutely crushes that monologue about Osama Bin Ladin. No one else would have spit it out that way, and Willis never once plays it as a joke, which is why it works so well. I love the matte painting of the destroyed civilization in the last few scenes. That is an image straight out of late-night Cinemax, circa 1986. And I love how the film turns into THE TERMINATOR at the end, with Cherry Darling and the other survivors all post-apocalyptic in wardrobe that looks like it came out of someone's closet. And that freeze-frame... ahhhh... that freeze-frame. Right on.
Loco... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:31:24 AM
... I love Mickey. I'm a little freaked out by the new Mickey with all the plastic surgery and stuff, but he made a great Marv. No doubt about it. I just don't think there's any chance Mickey would have played Stuntman Mike as a big fat pussy, and when Kurt finally shows his true colors, it's one of the things that makes me squeal. I love it. Can't get enough of it. So in this case, I'm reeeeeal glad the casting shook out the way it did.
Fair enough Morty, i can dig by LocoMotive	Apr 6th, 2007 05:33:49 AM
Fair enough Morty, i can dig that.
Hold Tight by acorvey25	Apr 6th, 2007 05:40:57 AM
My favorite part in DEATH PROOF is the way Tarantino uses "Hold Tight" by Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich. It comes right before the most shocking moment in the film and it's amazing because the song is so infectious and poppy and the characters are so into it that it makes it that much worse when their complacency is suddenly shattered (literally) by Stuntman Mike's chariot or death.
BTW, Acorvey... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:42:57 AM
... you probably did see me. I was there with the lovely Mrs. Moriarty, the esteemed Mr. Beaks, and a couple of good buddies. What a great crowd tonight.
I have to agree on Kurt Russell. by iamnicksaicnsn	Apr 6th, 2007 05:44:42 AM
Even though I'm a little sad that Kurt became a big fat pussy, just because he was so damn cool a villain, he did it to perfection. And damn! I can't believe I forgot about the Osama monologue already. I'm going to have to see this so many times in theaters it's obscene.
IAmNicks... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:47:00 AM
... "I put two in his heart and one in his computer. We weren't supposed to be there. He wasn't supposed to be there. I certainly wasn't supposed to punch his dialysis ticket." Bliss.
Lucky you guys got to see it at the New Beverly by iamnicksaicnsn	Apr 6th, 2007 05:54:00 AM
I heard the line was already way long by 7:45, so I figured I'd just watch it somewhere else. I'm glad I saw it at the Graumann's, I'd never been, and it was actually nice to see Grindhouse in such elegance. The New Beverly would've probably been more appropriate though, it's such an awesome place. Also, Moriarty, are you going to go to the Hot Fuzz festival on Saturday if you're still here in LA? I wanted to get tickets badly, but the theater's website is horrible and by the time I figured it out all the tickets were sold out, but I'm still going to try to wait in stand-by.
IAmNicks... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 05:56:58 AM
... I don't think I'm going. It's a family weekend, and Saturday, we'll be getting stuff ready for Easter morning with the baby. Hope you get in on stand-by, though. It'll be a blast.
Yeah, I can't wait, by iamnicksaicnsn	Apr 6th, 2007 06:03:53 AM
It's been a stunning series of movies lately and the season is only going to get better as summer gets closer it seems. Have a good weekend with the fam, man!
New Beverly by acorvey25	Apr 6th, 2007 06:06:09 AM
By the time my friend and I showed up at 8:00 P.M. the line was around the block. A guy who worked at the theater told us there were just over 200 seats and that we were like 300th in line. So we waited until the box office opened and then we bribed a dude at the front of the line so he'd buy us a couple tickets. I spent 20 bucks to get in but boy was it worth it.
Oh... by acorvey25	Apr 6th, 2007 06:08:38 AM
And John Gulager and his father (from "Feast" and "Project Greenlight" fame) were sitting in the front row. It was kind of hilarious.
Acorvey... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 06:35:05 AM
... they've been there, in those same seats, for pretty much every night of the Grindhouse Film Festival so far. The Gulagers are serious about their exploitation movies.
Thanks, Moriarty... by Roguewriter	Apr 6th, 2007 06:53:09 AM
Your review was the final push I needed. I am bolting outa work two hours early and catching the first showing of this one in my town. Goddamn, I can't wait!! FYI, both soundtrack CDs are excellent, but Rodriguez' PLANET TERROR score jumped straight to the top shelf of my vast movie soundtrack collection; it's arguably the very best thing John Carpenter never produced, and it sits alongside his (and Alan Howarth's) best work as superb 70s/80s scorework. Tremendous!!! Mori, you continue to write superb reviews, and you keep me coming back to AICN week after week even when I've soured on the toxic TalkBacks and angry, negative vibes this place so often gives off. You keep it worthy. Waiting for you to burst the bonds here, sir, and take up the Siskel/Ebert mantle. Write a book! Get a TV show! (Or just get RACE WITH THE DEVIL out there, man -- talk about grindhouse potential!!) Keep up the great work, man.
1 thing pisses me off about this movie by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 07:22:26 AM
And it has nothing to do with the film itself. I just hate it when something that I felt part of as an exclusive group, per se, now EW is giving an A and acting like they've seen any of these type of films before. Now and average retard can pretend that they've been "in" on this from the start and it almost loses it's appeal with the wide scope. I could be wrong, and many thanks to RR and QT for these films, but i just hate what happens to the things I hold dear
artmachine and Todd by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 08:12:56 AM
i think both of you are missing the point. Artmachine, QT was doing a loving (and awesome) homage to Samuri film (with western elements) and it was amazing. and Todd refer to my last post
Eli Roth's "Thanksgiving" by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 08:30:51 AM
Everyone is saying that this is the movie he should make, but yet again no one is really crazy about his movies in the first place. And now that Hostel is going to be a trilogy and he's in talks to do "Cell" who knows where he could go. I'm one of the people who enjoyed Cabin Fever, not a great movie, but had some cool shit in it. Hostel was better then everyone who just said "it was a porn movie, with 20 minutes of violence". It was more a look at the ignorance of American youth. And there were still parts I thought sucked about it. Think the whole torture movie thing has already passed. Eli seems to really love horror, and he def. has potential to make a really good one. But with 2 more hostel movies, i think his talent is going to be wasted on fitting a bill. How many times can we really sit through someone bound up and tortured for two hours?
also by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 08:32:04 AM
It would never work as a full movie. It's great as a fake trailer. But would lose all fun in a film.
Terror yes, Death Proof...meh. by Kromag	Apr 6th, 2007 08:32:57 AM
I am sort of detecting a gigantic amount of pro-QT bias on this site. I'm a fan of Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs...and I even liked Kill Bill alright, but I think his part of this was clearly inferior, and all the reviewers on this site are acting like it was the second coming. I dunno.
LOST TALKBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by PwnedByStallone	Apr 6th, 2007 08:39:14 AM
WHERE THE FUCK IS IT??????????
We need a real "Machete" movie by rev_skarekroe	Apr 6th, 2007 08:53:25 AM
It's about time Trejo graduated from "that scary looking Mexican biker dude who's in all those movies" into an actual star.
The Lost talkback got lost in the AICN server crash by Osmosis Jones	Apr 6th, 2007 08:53:59 AM
Too bad. :o(
E tu Trejo by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 08:57:27 AM
Danny is awesome. He kicks ass. But he is going to be in the latest "Larry the Cabledouche" movie. Sad days.
Hey Kloipy by luckylindy	Apr 6th, 2007 09:15:50 AM
Did ya ever read David Cross's open letter to Larry the Cable Guy. Its some pretty funny shit and its on the Bob and David website somewhere; im too lazy to post a link but yeah i hate that tard. And hey, the MexiCAN gotta eat.
WHAT KIND OF FATHER GOES TO A MOVIE AT 11 AT NIGHT?!! by Zarles	Apr 6th, 2007 09:18:00 AM
Kidding. Oh, and I've seen Mori's mini-van, and the fucker's got a flame job and twin overhead cams on it. Anyway, I've been sold on this movie since the jump, and tomorrow at 3:15 is when it's gonna go down. Wheeeeee!!!
lindy by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 09:20:16 AM
yeah i read that, it was so freakin' funny. seriously every time i see him, i have unspeakable rage boil up within my soul
...nothin wrong wit Tracie usin it Mori... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 6th, 2007 09:28:23 AM
...Im referrin to QT usin it...Pulp Fiction was great and his dialogue in it was great, but it is TOTALLY UNBELIEVABLE that a white guy will blatantly use the N word in front of a black guy he knows, especially a black guy he knows that kills people...now in Reservoir Dogs (if QT used it) WOULD make sense cuz there were no black people around when they were usin it...
Put a new one up if the other one was "Lost" by PwnedByStallone	Apr 6th, 2007 09:29:02 AM
Sheesh.
Don't set your expectations too high for Death Proof .. by LaneMyersClassic	Apr 6th, 2007 09:33:46 AM
but Planet Terror - yes! Death Proof is good, but could have definitely used some trimming in several places. I love Tarantino's work (including Jackie Brown) but the editing in Death Proof should have been tighter. Other than that, I agree with Moriarty 100% about everything else, including his take on From Dusk Till Dawn.
What a difference an homage can make by Yautja	Apr 6th, 2007 09:33:55 AM
Every time I read a talkback on this website I’m always amazed at how irrationally hateful all of you people are. It seems like everyone here just hates everything purely for hate’s sake. You find the smallest complaints and most minor details and that turns a great movie into “The most unwatchable (insert profanity here) I’ve ever seen.” All it takes is to see flame decals on Optimus Prime and suddenly Transformers is the worst movie off all time and everyone is constantly typing “Damn you Michael Bay” (that hasn’t gotten old at all by the way). But a movie comes out which, under any other circumstances would be one of the most pointless and stupid things ever, and you people foam at the mouth with excitement just because it’s an homage to a whole genre of pointless stupid movies. And before you start hurling insults at me and telling me I just don’t get the point of the movie, I do. I understand what the point of Grindhouse is and, though I’m not particularly excited about it, I do like the idea. But my point is if you strip away the fake ads, the fake scratches, and look at it without the rose-colored tint of nostalgia and homage, you’re left with a movie that features a woman with a gun for a leg and plots that don’t just have holes, they have entire pieces missing. But just because it’s supposed to be over the top and absurd it’s great, and yet flames on Optimus ruins an entire movie.
ramirez by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 09:36:13 AM
in Pulp Fiction, those guys were hitmen who didn't really give a fuck. They went through the shit together. They had a bond that didn't level that. They had heard it all before, and racism or using the "n" word didn't have effect on either of them
Damn you Yautja by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 09:39:37 AM
I mean robots that come to save the planet, is def. not over the top. Who cares what holes some of these movies have. It boils down to entertaiment. People like to complain. Don't get so bent out of shape about it
...BS Kloipy... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 6th, 2007 09:44:19 AM
...if I remember correctly, Jules got mad at Brent or whatever his name was, and made it seem like Brent was dickin Marcellus because he was a black guy...or somethin like that...irregardless (my favorite non-word), I think Jules wouldnt let the N word slide by no one unless they were black, cuz if that wasnt the case, Vincent wouldve used it a lil or a lot...
...un-related topic... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 6th, 2007 09:46:22 AM
...the TBs would have never had a system crash or whatever if it was while HEROES was still airin on TV...wit that said, maybe it was that Iraqi chick who crashed the site...hmmm...?
good point by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 09:46:23 AM
i just think the relationship between Jules and Vince was that of a brother-like status where they were equals
You're right, Kloipy by Yautja	Apr 6th, 2007 09:49:03 AM
Giant robots couldn't possibly ever make for an entertaining movie. But like I said, I don't think Grindhouse looks bad, quite the opposite, and Transformers is only one of many examples of what I was talking about. I was just pointing out that it's surprising that the majority here doesn't hate Grindhouse.
...and a thing bout Mori... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 6th, 2007 09:52:10 AM
...not sure if I really like him or not, but I have to say, he's a cool guy for actually checkin the TBs...the site "owner" is always so busy, but yet, I know nothin of his "Hollywood career" other than he was a extra in Faculty...Mori on the other hand, has a kid, writes screenplays (or whatever) that actually makes it to the big/lil screen...maybe its time for him to start his own rival site and then we can have a "internet movie site" war...then Mori could turn that into a movie (I better get some credit for it to)...
i don't see why they would, Yautja by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 09:52:48 AM
this is a film that isn't supposed to be perfect. It harkens back to the stuff you loved about imperfect film. Just the style, the idea that people don't make movies for money, but for doing something they love even if it is badly. It's not about a Mcdonalds tie in. It's about recreating something that inspired you, or made you laugh, or got you excited about movies in the first place. Most movies out there are just made because the studio knows people will shell out the cash. Grindhouse isn't a sure thing. A lot of people won't get it. But they aren't making these movies for those people
Mori co wrote MOH episode Cig Burns by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 10:00:56 AM
and that shit was scary as hell. It takes a lot to disturb me and that movie def. hit the mark.
Saw it last night! by Doomius 2.0	Apr 6th, 2007 10:01:48 AM
And HOT DAMN was it a ride! I curse you QT for the missing reel, and I praise you for one hell of a payoff! Most fun I have had in a theater in a very long time, can't wait to see the extended cuts of each!
Thanks Kloipy by Yautja	Apr 6th, 2007 10:04:29 AM
You make a lot of great points. People do just love to hate, and I shouldn't expect anything less. And the fact that Grindhouse isn't a movie made for studios or guaranteed profits is a heartwarming idea, although like I said it's not the kind of movie I'm really interested in. And thank you for making that point in an intelligent and thought out manner rather than a string of mindless obscenities.
No problem by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 10:06:18 AM
The thing is that no matter how perfect something is, there will always be someone there to pick it apart of hate it. That's also the reason racism will never end. Oh well.
ditto Zombie Solutions by kilik777	Apr 6th, 2007 10:06:52 AM
Those are the best each director has done no doubt. Im looking forward to the special all night screening of Grindhouse at the drafthouse this saturday night. 4 oldschool movies plus Grindhouse should make a long interesting fun night. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
no Machete movie KTHX by captainCAPSLOCK	Apr 6th, 2007 10:58:05 AM
i probably just have a negative bias from those Mexploitation VHS tapes we rented out at Hollywood Video and never got back on time. it doesn't look like Machete has time for lovin the ladies.
Saw Gringhouse Last Night by Knightsong	Apr 6th, 2007 11:01:40 AM
Now I missed the first 45 minutes unfortunately, but what I saw of Planet Terror is a blast. The mock op previews after Planet Terror were also a blast. The audience really had a good time with it. In my opinion this is where you should leave because Death Proof falls flat. You have nothing but 20-25 minutes of dialogue between these women and the guys trying to get them drunk and screw them. It's not overtly whitty, you could be a part of this same conversation at any bar you went to where guys are trying to pick up girls. They're wanting to get drunk and high and get their friend from out of town laid and it goes on for 25 minutes. You're praying that when Kurt Russel finally shows up that he'll just drive his car through the whole bar terminator style and murder everyone. Unfortunately he's played as the old guy at the club. Completely out of his element awkward and more than a bit nerdy. I will agree that the missing reel on the lapdance seen was one of the biggest blue ball things ever done, because it was the first time I felt excited about ANYTHING happening in Death Proof at all. Nope but he yanks that out from underneath you and you're lead up to the point where Russel kills the girls he's after which is the first entertaining thing that's happened in almost 30 minutes. It's sadistic and brutal and entertaining and your hoping that this movie had just hit it's pace. Nope. Cause After Russel kills the first four or five girls, the movie restarts with four new girls and we're right back into the same borring conversation all over again. My God it was fucking torture. This is not how you follow up Planet Terror and all the fun that the mock-up trailers were. But that's how he did it. About 25 minutes later Russel shows back up again and you're like "YES!PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY KILL THESE BORRING LADIES!" And what follows is the biggest cinematic flip-flop ever. Russel drives the girls off the road nearly killing them, steps out and makes a smug remark, and gets ready to leave when he gets shot in the arm by one of the girls. Well the bullet must have been filled with pussy juice because Russel is no longer the cold sadistic killer driving in the death proof car; he becomes a whining crying baby that runs away until the girls finally chase him down and beat the shit out of him. As soon as he hits the ground after a brutal face smashing the girls jump in the air Toyota-style and we get the words The End on the screen in halmark 70's fashion. So please spare yourself this torment and just leave after the final mock-up trailer. Unless you like to hear girls who say mutha fucka talk for better than 70% of the movie. If that's your thing...you'll be in heaven.
"The bullet must have been filled with pussy juice" by YackBacker	Apr 6th, 2007 11:18:30 AM
Knightsong, can you please write reviews for this site? Awesome.
Shalit is a tool by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 11:49:04 AM
How can he one day, stand up during a critics filming of Clerks 2 because it was vulgar, and then praise Borat, which was much more vulgar? He's a fucking puppet.
Shalit...and thoughts on Capone's review by cdubbs727	Apr 6th, 2007 12:35:14 PM
Actually, wasn't it Joel Siegel who stood up during Clerks 2 and walked out, not Gene Shalit? Although both are huge tools. I understand why some people don't like Death Proof...there IS a lot of talking. However, if you check out Capone's review, he hits it right on the head--these movies DID have a lot of exposition back in the day because they could only afford one big payoff scene near the end (although Death Proof has a pretty cool payoff scene in the first 20 minutes too). I remember leaving Grindhouse Tuesday night thinking Planet Terror was great and that Death Proof was the lesser film...but honestly, it's Death Proof that's stuck with me this week and I absolutely MUST see this again, quickly.
Ummm, Kloipy, that was JOEL SEIGEL that walked out by YackBacker	Apr 6th, 2007 12:36:18 PM
of Clerks 2, not Gene Shalit. Confusing the two is forgiveable, as they are both human personifications of anus rings. Carry on.
sorry every one by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 12:41:37 PM
fuck both of those guys
Does Harry even work here anymore? by cdubbs727	Apr 6th, 2007 12:56:54 PM
Seriously, I don't expect a Harry review on every movie that comes out...especially because he seems to find a way to love everything that comes out lately. . . But I've been dying to hear his thoughts on Grindhouse. Obviously, he loves QT and RR. And I'm sure he'll love the film. But I also want to hear what such a big (pardon the pun) film collector thinks of the little bumps and animated intros in the film. Whoever requested that Mori start his own site is right on. He's the best reviewer on the site...even if he is a notorious promise breaker (DVD blog? 90s list?)
Knightsong hit it on the head by KeithCourage	Apr 6th, 2007 01:38:04 PM
Deathproof was 80 minutes of Qt sucking his own cock. planet Terror was pure uninhibited fun...exactly what it promised to be.
Zarles, Jfp, etc. by moto	Apr 6th, 2007 01:39:27 PM
Really? Is that the most clever thing you can think of? "Moto, you need to get laid?" My wife of seven years takes care of me just fine. Even got a son out of it. But thanks for trying.
MORI... by moto	Apr 6th, 2007 01:42:28 PM
My bad, my friend. The old review I read was INTRODUCED by you in regards to the first person who had seen SOAP at the time. You didn't write the actual review. Apologies, but I still stand behind the comparison of the hype. Again, nothing wrong with having a great time with the flick.
SOAP by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 01:51:40 PM
will this movie suck. Will snakes discover the lost city of atlantis. What's up with Angela's hairdo. All these questions and more answered next week on...SOAP
Kloipy by moto	Apr 6th, 2007 01:54:51 PM
LOL... I think the same thing everytime is see that
moto by Zarles	Apr 6th, 2007 01:56:50 PM
Your wife takes care of me and the rest of the people on my street just fine, too. By the way, how's my kid?
I can't believe I made a SOAP reference by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 01:57:33 PM
I need a drink
awwww shit Zarles!! by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 01:58:34 PM
Them's fightin' words
i guess not but..... by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 02:09:27 PM
here's some fightin' words for this site. Star Wars (all of them) and LOTR are the worst movies of all time, and anyone who even faintly likes them also likes to have sex with animals. The end.
...sorta agree wit Kloipy... by mr ahole ramirez	Apr 6th, 2007 02:26:43 PM
...LOTR and SW are stoopid movies, but theyre not the worst of all time (watch Venom for example)...I especially hate LOTR which could have been done in a 30 minute episode...and I mean gosh, a FRIGGIN EYEBALL FOR A BAD GUY...get the fuck outta here...
thank you!!! by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 02:30:52 PM
I would have ended it with a dude walking up and going "What a wonderful dream" and an ending shot of frodo giving sam a pearl necklace
waking not walking by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 02:31:38 PM
either or
another of the worst movies by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 02:37:13 PM
The Brown Bunny. Vincent Gallo is sad, drives around, kisses unknown girls, drives some more, rides his bike, drives some more, drives some more, gets a hotel room, meets Chloe Sevigny, she sucks his cock, he calls her a whore, she turns out to be his dead ex-girlfriend who got raped and choked on her own puke, vicent cries, drives some more. The end. It's not deep, it's not haunting, it's just fucking stupid
no one liked death proof at my theater by wcoop893	Apr 6th, 2007 02:54:08 PM
i tried really hard to like it because i love tarintino, but i was really really bored. which is amazing to be bored by tarintino, but i was. so sad
well I'm gonna make like a tree by Kloipy	Apr 6th, 2007 02:57:26 PM
and get the fuck outta here. Fight the good Fight guys
Great read. Sounds like an exciting, fun ride. by JDanielP	Apr 6th, 2007 03:01:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing it more than ever.
Been cooler if the cars, technology were period correct by corvette63	Apr 6th, 2007 03:06:21 PM
I loved the concept but why go through all the trouble of scratchy film, etc if all the tech and cars are modern day. It pulled me out of the movie every time I saw the cell phones.
Antecedent to DEATH PROOF by Drathan	Apr 6th, 2007 03:42:32 PM
I just wanted to take up Moriarty on his following challenge: "Where I can point at a dozen movies as direct precedents for PLANET TERROR, I’ve never seen DEATH PROOF before, and I’d love to see someone point out a movie that they feel this is a rip-off of... cause I don’t think you can do it." Well, here you go: http://tinyurl.com/2x9csy From that site (suntimes.com), the quote reads: "If the foundation for "Planet Terror" is "Night of the Living Dead," the blueprint for "Death Proof" is "Vanishing Point."" I'll accept a nintendo Wii as reward :) Another cool quote just for fun: "Also at the bar: Rose McGowan, with two legs. She's not playing Cherry Darling here -- but we do catch brief glimpses of a few other characters from "Planet Terror" in Tarantino's movie, indicating that the stories take place in the same locale -- with "Death Proof" transpiring before the cataclysmic events of "Planet Terror."" Cuz thats the kind of details we geek out about. Cant wait to watch this flick!
Drathan... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 04:14:09 PM
... have you actually seen VANISHING POINT? Because it's pretty much nothing like DEATH PROOF. At all. Remotely. In DEATH PROOF, two of the characters are big fans of that film and want to drive a car that the main character drove. Otherwise... nope.
Death Proof by tailhook	Apr 6th, 2007 04:15:41 PM
Have to agree with the people about Death Proof. The premise is great... when we actually get to it. Its basically a setup movie for a world-class stunt and driving session. Tarantino knows the plot is razor-thin.. its Grindhouse ffs... but he makes a major misstep in attempting to parody his own style of verbose language by using for... nothing. There is no reason for it. Its not meant to impart anything. In all reality if you jump your DVD player from the start of the movie to just after the missing reel once its on video... you will miss nothing of any importance. You still see the setup of what Stuntman Mike does and how he does it.. and you still get the setup of the women who actually play a part in the meat of the action along with the gun and other elements.. but you don't get bored half to death sitting through Tarantino's assinine self-parody at the start of Death Proof. As per the missing lap dance... I could have really cared less by that point because I just wanted them to get on with the actual story. Seriously.. between PT and DP... Planet Terror was far superior.
Split in two for Europe... by Waxfinger	Apr 6th, 2007 04:58:46 PM
What the hell?! How did this happen? I thought part of the whole concept was the back-to-back double feature extravaganza. Why don't we get the chance to see the whole deal?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! What is this?!?! And why haven't i head a cry of horror from anyone else?!
I'm Glad DEATH PROOF Took Its' Time. by Buzz Maverik	Apr 6th, 2007 05:35:06 PM
My biggest fear about QT's portion of the film was that he was just going to make an exploitation movie, which would have been like doing straight pulp fiction stories in PULP FICTION, without the twists, the unexpected dialogue, etc. I'm not going to use the term "grindhouse" as a genre because I've seen about a billion exploitation movies in theaters that could be called grindhouses and I never once heard the term before this movie. It's a great title, but it ain't a genre. Tarantino made HIS version of an exploitation movie, just like he made his version of a heist flick, a revenge flick, a pulp crime story, etc.
Well Shitfire,Batman by Volstaff	Apr 6th, 2007 05:39:15 PM
I worked all damn night last night, just got home from work today.I had planned to take it easy tonight, vegg out and catch it tommorrow after a light work morning. Now I'm all fucking excited after reading your kickass review, Mori.You bastard! Um, now if you'll excuse me, I have a movie to go try and see.Bitch! shakes fist
what happened to cowgirls in sweden? by troutpencil	Apr 6th, 2007 05:47:01 PM
The trailer QT was going to do? It's not in it?
"And there's no exposition to explain by Jack Gladney	Apr 6th, 2007 05:50:53 PM
Stuntman Mike's pathology" Did you fall asleep at the part where he's in the hospital in the other movie for five minutes? Although I guess it is pretty basic exposition. I'll agree that I enjoyed watching Planet Terror more, but I think I like Death Proof just as much.
No Buzz by tailhook	Apr 6th, 2007 06:15:04 PM
Tarantino made 45 minutes of bullshit followed by 45 minutes of his exploitation movie. Seriously.. once his movie starts just after the missing reel its fine. But everything before that is as boring and pointless an experience as i've ever had in a theater.
yup, Mori nailed it by ScreamingPenis	Apr 6th, 2007 06:15:35 PM
i was expecting Tarantino homage masturbation, but it's not vanity at all. it works very well. fun, funny, and entertaining.
Death Proof was the best part of Ghouse! by jojo-pimp	Apr 6th, 2007 06:28:55 PM
It's true! Went with a group of like ten people today, and they all said they were suprised that Death Proof was far superior flick than Planet Terror. I loved the action/gore/comedy of Planet Terror, but Death Proof really stood out as its own film, where I could see myself paying just to see that movie on its own, without another feature or faux trailers
Just got back from seeing it and both rocked by spectrebeeyatch	Apr 6th, 2007 07:13:36 PM
I was just happy to pay money and have that much fun. I don't understand the hate towards this movie, guess people are trying to be edgy or cool but these flicks rock. I'd like to see it again with no crowd and see how I enjoy it because the crowd I saw it with was amazing. Go see this movie don't listen to the haters who will be seeing Wild Hogs instead go see Grindhouse!
Mori... by Napolean Solo	Apr 6th, 2007 07:53:35 PM
For the record, I love me some Moriarty!!!! But I don't know why you said "The 'N' word as you call it". ??? And context? What Tarantino is an O.G in his filmmaking but context is a thing that guy knows nothing of when using that word. NO ONE not even Sam Snakes Jackson can justify the use of it in Pulp Fik! Totally out of 'context' as you would call it. Also, how do you know she added it in herself? Was it because it wasn't in the script or was it a convo you had with QT that informed you? Take my questions as a rant and not a bash, because once again... 'I love me some Mori'... as I call it.
CLEVER AS IT SOUNDS, WHY I WILL NOT PAY TO SEE THIS by Oatu	Apr 6th, 2007 08:02:46 PM
Great concept, sounds like they did a bang-up job and it would be a fun movie to watch. My problem? Rodriguez talking about how he tried to think of the most disturbing thing he could while writing, and it was losing his child. So he puts in the scene where his son picks up the gun and shoots himself. I understand it was off-camera etc. Look, obviously the movie is what it is - the gore, etc. But when Rodriguez sticks his own kid in there... I know people who have lost children, it's the most painful thing imaginable, and it's the kind of raw pain one can only know after experiencing it. He's a brilliant and inventive director but in my opinion to do what he did is sick. I honestly don't see how he can look at himself in the mirror. I would have been first in line to see this before, but after reading that, I'm going to skip this one. How does he top that on his next film when he tries to think of something even more disturbing? It was crossing the line to me when he talks about killing his own kid. This is the world we are now actively creating for future generations. George W. Bush is already screwing up things already enough for years to come, let's at least not sit in Ivory Towers and think none of this other stuff will affect anything. It does, and when you lose moral compasses to where you have to get more and more shocking to the point where haha let me kill my kid in the movie, it's NOT RIGHT. AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO TAKE A STAND.
Trim the diner scene from DEATH PROOF by slone13	Apr 6th, 2007 08:03:01 PM
And maybe some of the "How are we gonna get this guy to let us take a joyride in his car?" scene, too. Otherwise, GRINDHOUSE was a great time.
Grindhouse a Homage to Bad Movies ! by vieri32	Apr 6th, 2007 08:05:18 PM
One thing people forget to mention about those 70's movies, Grindhouse was supposed to honor, was that they were horrible films which were painful to watch. On this level Grindhouse succeeds because it sucked bad. The only thing worth watching was those retro trailers. DeathProof couldve been better if there was more Kurt Russell and less talking from the women. Death Proof should be watched on dvd with the sound off whenever the women are on screen, because they are still great to look at.
Why split for Europe???? by pdennett316	Apr 6th, 2007 08:08:42 PM
Look, if people can sit through 3 hours+ of LOTR or Harry Potter, then we can sure as fuck handle Grindhouse!!! Ahhh, just realised. It's so we'll have to visit the cinema twice to see what should've been seen in one sitting. Fucking rip-off Britain at work again. Bastards!
On the topic of the Hot Women of Grindhouse........ by vieri32	Apr 6th, 2007 08:13:45 PM
Rose McGowan is most defintely not one of them. Unless you like super short women , with really white pasty skin, no tits or ass, and bad hair. She was the least attractive of the women in both movies.Robert Rodriguez dumped his wife for this troll. Bad choice RR.
Napolean... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 08:36:07 PM
... I wasn't defending it (or condemning it) in PULP. I was talking about the use of it in DEATH PROOF. I said "the n word, as you call it," because I think that replacement phrase is sort of chickenshit and annoying, and part of the PC speech that makes modern discourse so bizarre. All I can go by is the DEATH PROOF script, and although there are a few uses of it by Kim in the script, there are a ton more in the actual film. The car chase in particular. In the script, most of that dialogue is not written, and I think that's because Quentin wanted to work it out once he was actually staging the car chase.
Vieri32... by TheRealMoriarty	Apr 6th, 2007 08:38:57 PM
... um... nope. GRINDHOUSE is not a tribute to bad films. That's an elitist attitude. Exploitation films were frequently insane, and there are certainly many of them that are awful, but what the QT Fests have always been about, and what any exploitation fan will tell you, is that there are many gems among that trash, and those gems make everything else worthwhile. GRINDHOUSE is a tribute to the unique voices and the genuinely good films that exist on the fringe, and if you think all exploitation is trash, that's your baggage.
Parts of the missing reel from Death Proof-- by blackmantis	Apr 6th, 2007 08:57:03 PM
Are in that 30 minute Welcome to the Grindhouse special on the sci-fi channel and on the internet. I enjoyed both movies. Which is better? Who cares. Sometimes you gotta just shut off your critical faculties and, as William Hurt said in the Big Chill, "let the art flow over you."
Robert, why Rose McGowan? WHY??? by BrowncoatJedi	Apr 6th, 2007 09:18:02 PM
You could have cheated with Salma Hayek or Jessica Alba! WHY ROSE?!?!?!?!
I dont know what some of you were expecting.. by jojo-pimp	Apr 6th, 2007 09:39:15 PM
reading some of these reviews, its like you were all expecting the Ben Hur of our generation or something...its frickin Grindhouse...its meant to be a collection of cheesy ass shit movies...HELLO!!
How is Planet Terror an Exploitaion flick? by vieri32	Apr 6th, 2007 09:52:02 PM
Whats it exploiting? It has one scene in the begining with Rose McGowan dancng, clothed, in a strip joint and thats supposed to be exploitive??? Its not exploiting women, who's it exploiting besides the audience who pays for this garbage. Its a bad horror movie that used lots of money to make it look bad and cheap. Machete would've been an exploitve movie. Those seventies exploitaion films that you consider gems usually have one cool scene or a cool look to it or even a cool premise (like Death Proof) but ultimately were bad movies that failed to deliver much like these 2 did.
Awesome by Gozu	Apr 6th, 2007 09:55:38 PM
Best cinematic experience in a while. Fuck this "Hostel" shit, Eli Roth needs to make "Thanksgiving."
Deathproof boring?? wtf!!! by jojo-pimp	Apr 6th, 2007 10:10:48 PM
That movie was badass!! I am soooo sick of everyone saying it was too "chatty" or "talky"! HELLO! have ya seen any of QT's other movies? this is too be expected!! Its called building supsense and characterization people!! Shit..people complain when characters in horror movies are 2 dimensional, so when someone tries to give them some depth, its considered too "talky". Basically, some of you are just way too damn hard to please. go make your own damn movies
Not going if it's split by Vadakin	Apr 6th, 2007 10:27:34 PM
If Grindhouse gets split up here, then I'm not going to see it. I'll catch the "restored" version on dvd. Yeah I know, the way to experience this film is with an audience, watching the scratches, cursing at the missing reels etc but taking out half the fucking movie and showing it a month later ruins the experience. I dunno whose bright idea it was to split Grindhouse up into two seperate films instead of one "double feature" but come on, it's bullshit. In fact...if it comes down to a choice between watching Planet Terror and Death Proof seperately, and pirating and downloading the whole film from a torrent...I'm afraid to say I'd choose a download...after all watching a film in shitty quality without paying to see it..that's grindhouse. And I don't promote piracy, but I'm really tempted to make an exception in this case. Mori, do you know anything about this? Is it just being split up in Germany or is it happening all over Europe? Somebody seriously needs to ask QT and RR why they're allowing the studio...or whoever to fuck up their intended vision to view these films.
Loved the look, the sound, the very taste of GH... by Zeke25:17	Apr 6th, 2007 10:44:30 PM
and I would agree, as much as I liked Planet Terror, that Death Proof was the better film...BUT! More than a few questions remain with that one, among them being: 1) As another person on this board said, what DID in fact happen with the "cheerleader" left back at the shack? Given that her character had nothing to do with the climax of the film, I wonder why she was even in the story (except to look kinda cute). 2) Why did we not hear, just once, what Jungle Julia sounded like on the radio as a DJ? Woulda loved to seen more of that character; all we really knew about her is that she had dynamite legs and feet, and enjoyed hanging them out the car window as much as possible (great death for her, though!). 3) Now here's the big question, and it's fulla SPOILERS, so skip to the end, newbies!...Did anyone besides me feel that the scene where the three girls beat the shit out of Russell--as great a sequence as that was--was not as clear-cut a case of cathartic villain beatdown as it should have been? By that I mean: there are certain scenes in certain films where when the bad guy finally gets a good one right in the chops, the audience collectively screams YEAH!...and I wasn't feeling that, watching Stuntman Mike being bounced from girl to girl like a human pinball. And I SHOULD have felt it, right? I mean, the guy killed one gal in his car, and brutally rammed three others in a head-on collision--so why did I feel that his comeuppance was somehow excessive? I'm thinking it's either that a. I didn't like the girls enough, or b. I didn't hate Mike enough. Now, the two rather long scenes in which the girls chat in kind of diluted Quentinese are there, of course, to make us feel that we know these girls, and thereby identify with them. By contrast, we know almost nothing about Mike; he's just The Bad Guy (though Russell makes him somehow likable). The strategy is clear, but what happened for me was that I came to the conclusion that the girls were almost stupid enough to deserve what happened. Zoe Bell came off like a bubbly nutcase, Tracie Thoms' character was like a gangsta version of Florence the maid; and let's not forget Rosario's "adorable" Abernathy character, who despite the fact that she's a mother coems up with the brilliant idea of leaving the youngest and most vulnerable girl in their "posse" back at the cabin with a guy who, while not a clear-cut rapist stereotype, does everything but drool all over himself when he sees her...the purpose of this being that she is the "collateral" while the other girls take the car. How, I ask you, does this make them sypathetic characters? Why should we root for them over Mike? And I find myself wondering if this was QT's goal all along: to blur the line between hero and villain, good and bad guys; in other words, twist the whole idea of the pulp female revenge/empowerment movie so that there is no clear-cut person to root for at all. So the last question Death Proof leaves me with is this: was I SUPPOSED to hate Stuntman Mike, or not?!? And please: Make Machete, Thanksgiving and Don't as soon as possible!!!
Oh, and for the record... by Zeke25:17	Apr 6th, 2007 10:51:54 PM
Rosario Dawson did not like the idea that her character left the "cheerleader" behind, at all. Supposedly, she argued rather vehemently with Tarantino about it. Ultimately, it came down to "it's MY movie, so siddown and shaddap and follow the script"...but this indicates to me that more than one person found it a bit peculiar that a supposedly likable character who the audience is presumably supposed to root for would do such a callous, and simply stupid, thing.
Zeke25:17 by clone-o-mat	Apr 6th, 2007 10:56:13 PM
For real, Zeke? Where'd you haer that? You have a link? I have a friend I'd love to see that
Clone... by Zeke25:17	Apr 6th, 2007 11:03:22 PM
...it's in the hardcover book GRINDHOUSE: The Sleaze-Filled Saga of an Exploitation Double Feature. It may also have been in a recent Entertainment Weekly magazine covering the film, though I don't recall reading it there.
DEATH PROOF should have had tons of nudity by slone13	Apr 6th, 2007 11:32:22 PM
If QT were really trying to emulate those old grindhouse movies accurately all the chicks in DEATH PROOF would have been naked in at least one scene. Especially with all that female love going arouund.
PLANET TERROR was great. DEATH PROOF not great. by McGsStepson	Apr 6th, 2007 11:43:02 PM
In fact, DEATH PROOF was borderline boring at times. The final chase was great and will leave less discerning critics satisfied if not ready to praise it as a great reinvention of the grindhouse genre - which it isn't. It has a spectacular crash, a great chase, one amazing conversation - and about 30 minutes of Tarantino revisiting the Reservoir Dogs diner sequence in different situation and forms and less successfully than the first time around.
Stuntman Mike got attempted to get Death Proofed by 12-GAUGE	Apr 6th, 2007 11:43:35 PM
Planet Terror was brilliant. Rodriguez shows he's got real, consistent chops after Sin City and now this. Death Proof is a case of a film being brilliant in context. In the context of a grindhouse movie, QT's film is great. But imagine if it was just released on its own, without any of the trailers or hub-bub of it being a "tribute" to exploitation movies. It was just Tarantino's next movie. I think people would respond to it differently. Death Proof is essentially a shorter Kill Bill: a lot of bantering, dialogue and set pieces with a very thin story thread. I really would love it if he went back to more personal, intimate stuff like in Pulp Fiction and especially Jackie Brown. Jackie Brown had no elaborate action scenes or even much graphic violence. The settings were really only a couple of houses, a bar, Max Cherry's office and the Del Amo Fashion Center. But it was brilliant, humanistic and exciting all in the same movie. To me, Reservoir Dogs was solid but not great. Then, he really shined with some kind of amazing magic on Pulp and Jackie. The Kill Bill's and Death Proof are great little films unlike any in their genres, whatever those genre are. I've seen them all (except Death Proof) dozens of times, but only Pulp and Jackie hold up with that supreme level of awe that never gets old. But then again, many people hated Jackie Brown, so go figure. I've just written a short story, so I'll retire.
Loved Grindhouse to death!!!!!! by CyberBeavis1326	Apr 6th, 2007 11:45:10 PM
Finally a movie that inspires me to want to make movies. Tarintino and me should have a talk, I got some crazy kickass ideas. I loved it all. I compare this movie to having 5 great kids and 1 annoying neighborhood kid that hangs around. (You all decide which is the annoying nieghborhood kid.) For me it was "Don't." The rest I loved. The thing I loved most about "Death Proof" was it oozed in Austiness. Loved the cameos from the TXRD and heck I even stayed after the credits to cheer on them being thanked. Even the locale of the Texas Chili Parlor was just killer. So seeing Punky Bruiser and a few other girls in "Death Proof" just widened my smile. I've never been to Austin either. I did watch "Rollergirls" on A & E so that was my the familiarity with them. "Planet Terror" was just pure fun. Loved the score even, Kudos Rodriguez. To them both, I know they occasionally check here. Tarintino and Rodriguez, thank you for such a kickass film and a beautiful film and inspiration.
And the trailers were great. by McGsStepson	Apr 6th, 2007 11:46:12 PM
Edgar Wright's DON'T was maybe my favorite. I just wish Zack Snyder would have directed a trailer.
I'm gonna post my thoughts in Quint's TB by thebearovingian	Apr 6th, 2007 11:47:31 PM
I must be heard, dammit!
Both movies were awful by Mike_Ock	Apr 6th, 2007 11:55:56 PM
What a huge disappointment. Neither film was even remotely scary. Isn't that the point of making a horror film? Planet Terror played like a spoof of Zombie films, while Death Proof proves that Quentin Tarantino is a fraud. I can't think of a single "scary" moment between the two films. Several people at my theater walked out during Death Proof. The dialogue was terrible, and Zoe Bell needs to stick to doing stunts, because her acting was J-Loesque. What a huge disappointment.
Anyone mention Stanley Donen's "Movie, Movie"? by jeffallee	Apr 7th, 2007 12:17:22 AM
I haven't read every review or talkback, but I was wondering if anyone has compared this to "Movie, Movie". I think the film came out in 1977 and featured two different film parodies plus fake trailers between movies. It does kind of seem like it was the inspiration for this film.
Just got back from The Senator. Packed house. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Apr 7th, 2007 12:18:01 AM
The crowd was rowdy and ready for some action. The quick and dirty. Planet Terror from start to finish was fucking awesome and delivered the goods. Deathproof bored the fuck out of me and was terrible except for the car chase in the end. I will do a more detailed review tomorrow but that's the extent of it. BTW Planet Terror played 1st at our theater. Really got everyone pumped. Theater fell alseep during Deathproof.
I wish Hobo with a Shotgun premiered in America by deathbunny32	Apr 7th, 2007 12:22:48 AM
Death Proof is without a doubt Quentin Tarrantino's chattiest and dialouge filled film ever. Sweet baby jesus. The ending of that movie was not worth the agony that was the dialouge. It was like listening to the introductory dialouge for a very good chick flick, expanded, for thirty minutes. Then, instead of an actual movie, they do it again for another thirty minutes. Also, I know that it was supposed to be empowering to women and whatnot, but at least one of the second group of girls should've gotten killed, for the outright stupid shit that they pulled.
Death Proof not up to par....Planet Terror was awesome by sicksauce	Apr 7th, 2007 12:24:06 AM
(Spoilers?) The whole experience was great. "Planet Terror" was the standout and Freddy Rodriguez was cool as fuck balls. "Thanksgiving"...want to see that. "Death Proof" = 70% talk 30% Grindhousesque material. The whole sitting around the table at the diner, one take, really made me wish I was watching "Reservoir Dogs". The end of "Death Proof" has a very good payoff...but...Tarantino is best when he is doing a dialog driven film. But, what do I know? I'm as useless as a pecker on a pope. Grindhouse 2 = "Thanksgiving" + "Machete" = box office gold!
jojo-pimp by tailhook	Apr 7th, 2007 12:25:07 AM
The issue with the first 45 minutes of trash Tarantino threw up on to the screen is it didn't build suspense and had 0 to do with characterization. Now.. I love Tarantino films along with the next guy.. but if you couldn't see that sitting around talking about Jungle Julia or w/e was QT making fun of his own style and 30 loads of bullshit shoved down your throat then you fall in the ranking of apologist. Willing to forgive everything and anything and blindly accept and love anything he puts up there. And thats your baggage. Death Proof does not start as a story until just after the Missing Reel. Everything before that is complete filler to take up the running time and intended as such. Its like QT noticed he only had 45 minutes of content and so he tossed in another 45 minutes of talking about nothing to round it out. He would have done the audience a great service if he had just started the movie from after the missing reel and it would have been a far better film.
Three things no-one's really mentioned by Turnquest	Apr 7th, 2007 12:26:15 AM
1) The ridiculuously FLAT references to Pulp Fiction (Big Kahuna Burger...Tasty Beverage). They are sooooo fucking obvious and right there and QT himself says the first one that its sort of amazing 2) Probably the best moment in the whole movie(s) experience... "I'm Okay!" Jeez, that was something beautiful. 3) The end credits song "Chick Habit - April March" just kills it, with the totally random weird Kodak girls. In terms of which movie's better, I'll just say that the applause after PLANET TERROR was tepid and that it took a couple people clapping to get most other people to do so in my theatre at least. But when DEATH PROOF finished, there was mad applause and the walk out of the theatre was filled with people talking excitedly and a genuine feeling of exhiliration, something I don't recall seeing in a long time. Congratulations gentlemen, you have yourselves a hit.
BTW Jungle Julia by sicksauce	Apr 7th, 2007 12:38:04 AM
= hot
re: TAILHOOK by jojo-pimp	Apr 7th, 2007 12:42:56 AM
ok, seriously, if that movie had started AFTER the missing reel....that just would have made no sense....we would have missed stuntman mike talking to ALL of those characters he first goes after, making the following scene extremely pointless.
tailhook by sicksauce	Apr 7th, 2007 12:43:41 AM
i agree
Tarantino is regressing as a film maker by Mike_Ock	Apr 7th, 2007 12:49:19 AM
The dialogue in Death Proof was so tired. And it seems like he only knows how to write one black character: Samuel L. Jackson. That black chick in Death Proof spoke like she was Jules Winfield's sister. I still can't get over how bad Death Proof was. Tarantino's getting to the point where nobody's got the balls to tell him to rewrite his shitty dialogue, in this movie. Death Proof was a great idea, poorly executed. And to top it all off, most of the chicks were ugly!!
just wow by bilbox	Apr 7th, 2007 12:54:45 AM
"And to top it all off, most of the chicks were ugly!!" you seriously need your fucking head examined
Not one comment on my post above, so... by Zeke25:17	Apr 7th, 2007 01:01:59 AM
I'll shorten it somewhat. If we're supposed to root against Stuntman Mike, why are we left with the nagging feeling that the second group of girls are stupid enough in their actions to almost deserve what happens (and doesn't happen) to them? Why does their beatdown of Mike at the climax not have the satisfactory, cathartic feeling a viewer gets when the bad guy finally gets his comeuppance from the good guys? Are the girls really, in fact, the good guys? Are we supposed to hate Stuntman Mike...or in some twisted way, empathize with him? Discuss. And btw, I'd suck Jungle Julia's toenail polish right off, assuming QT didn't beat me to it!
Jungle Julia Fuckin' Sucked Shit by Saluki	Apr 7th, 2007 01:26:13 AM
I hated hated hated that girl. The character at least. I'm not really for sure that Poitier meant to make her that annoying, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Honestly, Death Proof was lean on everything. Variety most of all. Planet Terror also was a bit too long, but at least didn't bore us for ten minute monologues at a time. And the Don't Trailer was... Off. Just not funny. Still, the whole thing has a ring to it that is unlike any cinema experience around.
Enjoyed it a lot... by DanielKurland	Apr 7th, 2007 01:30:43 AM
I personay preferred Death Prood. Planet Terror was by no means bad, but did seem kind of long. I was surprised, but pleased, by how much Death Proof turned into a Russ Meyers fim by the end.
Ignore my various typos above... by DanielKurland	Apr 7th, 2007 01:48:26 AM
Apologies all around.
The bitches in Death Proof were ugly by Mike_Ock	Apr 7th, 2007 01:51:47 AM
I didn't find the black chicks attractive, Vanessa Ferlito has a weird face, and Zoe Bell is just plain ugly. The cheerleader looked ok, and Jordan Ladd and that's it. Rosario Dawson may have a nice rack, but she's fugly.
Planet Terror started off really good... by JKrow21	Apr 7th, 2007 02:29:43 AM
But dragged on towards the end. It also started to become pretty stupid. I really liked Death Proof though - the ending was hilarious.
Nice review Mori by JonBlizzard	Apr 7th, 2007 03:28:30 AM
It's nice to hear someone talk about a movie as a person and not as an elitist bastard. I find myself agreeing with you 95% of the time so, I'm sure I'll enjoy this. That and I'm a huge Rodriguez fan.
I personally thought Death by whatcokes	Apr 7th, 2007 03:31:03 AM
I personally thought Death Proof was absolutely fantastic. The dialogue between the first group of girls does ring flat at times, but I'm pretty sure that's the point. They're posers that get their asses butchered. When the second, bad-ass group shows up, the dialogue is pure gold. I think the movie will play better on a second viewing. Too bad I have to sit through Planet Terror again. It was okay but very one-note.
No 300 by Roboteer	Apr 7th, 2007 04:08:48 AM
Though a success, won't come even close to those numbers. This is a lot like setting out to make the world's greatest blintz. Most people don't know what it is, don't care. The rest are blintz makers and blintz afficianados. 'Butt monkeys' all. ("I like it, BUT....") The first was a non-stop gore fest with little else to recommend it, other than McGowan with a machine gun. A little too stomach wrenching to be a parody. Believe it or not, most towns don't have a Grindhouse theater. Nor do all that many people have a great time watching serial B movie blood fests. With some humor and mass appeal, this is still a feature, or two, aimed primarily at a pretty narrow audience. The faux trailers were excellent. The QT finale stood up a little better, but was 10-15 minutes into yawn territory. Took too long for Rosario to get onscreen. That is some charismatic actress, even IF she swings the other way. Could have done w/o all the trash talking from Curley Sue driving. Got stupid after a few minutes. The car chase was not bad, but hardly spectacular. A lot of repetition and not the greatest use of surrounding vehicles. Plus, Zoe had ample opportunities to get back in the car. Was QT going for high production values? No. But let's not pretend this was BULLIT, THE ROCK, or even the T3 of chases. Of course it went too far flipping protagonist/antagonist at the end which was likely intended. But added to the overall 'feel bad' experience the whole provided. No applause or cheers at the half filled 7:30 premiere here. I think the audience did like seeing Michael Parks and Son #1 again. As well as many of the other in-jokes. But this was more along the lines of a vanity piece that hopefully got this out of their systems, so these 2 great fimmakers can go back to making good films instead of deliberately bad ones. And frankly, I'm about all 'zombied out', which could be a good replacement for the shark cliche.
Tarantino on Tyra Banks by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2007 04:31:03 AM
http://tinyurl.com/2oy4nu
Death Proof stunk up the joint. by CoursinLarry	Apr 7th, 2007 05:25:48 AM
Planet Terror was awesome. "Don't" and "Thanksgiving" were awesome. "Werewolf Women of the SS" was pointless. (Unless you're Rob Zombie. Then you were able to show your name on screen longer than any of the other trailer directors.) But, Death Proof... I went into Grindhouse fully expecting to prefer Death Proof over Planet Terror. But I was constantly checking my watch during all the horrible looooooong talks between all the obnoxious girls. I guess Quentin made his movie authentic in that, like a b-movie from the '70s, it was all over the place, was boring as hell, and had no point. All Death Proof needed were the Mystery Science Theater guys sitting front row to extract any sort of entertainment there may be out of it.
Saw it last night by Darth Thoth	Apr 7th, 2007 05:28:08 AM
Caught a midnight show. It's around 6:30am now and I can't sleep. Wow. That movie rocked me baby! It met all expectations. I'm too tired to write in any depth other than to say that I loved it loved it loved it! Wow.
I really hope... by Darth Thoth	Apr 7th, 2007 05:30:09 AM
they do more "Grindhouse" double feature movies. I'd love to see a full length of Hobo With a Shotgun (hehe), Machete (which I see is in the works), and Thanksgiving!
Kill Bill and Their Ejection from the house of mouse by emeraldboy	Apr 7th, 2007 08:29:50 AM
spelled the end of Bob and Harvey. If QT had a backbone, then he would have a stood up to bob and harvey and said this is film and i want it released as a whole film. But he didnt. His career has never really recovered from the Kill Bill debacle. Which were released as two seperate films. I have seen both movies. I saw kill bill on DVD and Kill bill 2 in the cinema. Kill bill vol 2 was disappointing and anticlimatic. Uma spent the first movie cutting her way through her list. I liked the stuff in the kitchen and I thought the film looked great in places. But the movie was devoid of Qt's trademark dialoug(which i gather was intentional, ie he hated people qouting dogs, fiction and jackie brown to him in the street). Grind house sounds liked a mixed bag, again and as fan of thier earlier works. I am getting tired of this kind of kind of thing. How about making your own movies QT and RR and not each others.
Animal Structure by emeraldboy	Apr 7th, 2007 08:32:41 AM
No he didnt, he just got sick of people quoting his movies at him. IF i made a movie or movies that had memorable lines in it and people qouted them at me, i would take it as complement. He doesnt
thank god for the talkbacks by justin s	Apr 7th, 2007 08:34:07 AM
cause every review I read went on about Death Proof like it's the best thing since bread. If I wanted to watch girls talk for an hour I could have just gone to the mall. and stuntman mike was a bad guy for about 10 minutes of the movie, the rest of the time he was a fuckin pussy. oh boy, tarantino made it all Grindhouse by adding a missing reel and some quick-cut scenes every so often, congratufuckinlations. at least Rodriquez "got it" and made an entertaining flick that didn't make me want to stand up and take that piss I'd been dying to let out to bypass all the boring parts.
I sincerely hope that inglorious Bastards by emeraldboy	Apr 7th, 2007 08:34:58 AM
Marks the return of this great filmmaker, but at this stage. I am not so sure.
Disappointing by Dystopika	Apr 7th, 2007 08:50:08 AM
I wanted to love it all. PT's filled with great ideas, but somehow loses its fun toward the end, even as it continues to have great imagery. DP was the shocker, though. I like Tarantino's work, but his ponderous dialogue isn't bulletproof. I was surprised at how little happens in DP. I appreciate the passionate review here -- but while I had some good laughs, DP left me feeling decidedly dispassionate. Not trying to ride the backlash, just an honest reaction.
dialogue? by rainbowtrout1265	Apr 7th, 2007 09:01:13 AM
"When the second, bad-ass group shows up, the dialogue is pure gold." What dialogue? The black girl driving the car saying the F word 500 times is not great dialogue. And it was hilarious watching even the comic store geek-types that comprised a great deal of the audience get bored and restless during Death Proof when they had spent all of their time during Planet Terror either laughing or cheering just to show how much they "got" Grindhouse.
Rose McGowan by gotilk	Apr 7th, 2007 09:09:09 AM
I've never been a fan, until these films. The moment she (as Cherry) realizes what she's capable of (I will not spoil with details) she has this absolutely genuinely surprised and enthused look on her face that just completely stood out in a really good way. If you've seen it before, see it again and watch for that moment. And you were dead on right about Zoe Bell. Just one of the most entertaining and physical performances I've ever seen. I have not had that much fun watching a film since my first viewing of Escape from New York when I was a wee one. See it with a packed house. Huge fun. Just huge.
Man I loved Death Proof by erichaislar	Apr 7th, 2007 09:22:38 AM
I can see why some people would not like it. I will admit it took sometime to get going put once it did it was balls to the walls.
Grindhouse a flop? by rainbowtrout1265	Apr 7th, 2007 10:01:30 AM
Early box office returns show Grindhouse will only end up about number 4 for the weekend with about 13-14 million.
you'll always be second best moriarty by pipergates	Apr 7th, 2007 10:19:54 AM
you might be the best writer on this site, the one with the best taste- i know cause it matches me own, you might even be the one who understands the best what you're writing about...but you'll always be trying to catch up to sherlock holmes.
JOJO-PIMP by tailhook	Apr 7th, 2007 10:23:43 AM
No.. it wouldn't have. The setup of the car was after the missing reel. Pretty much every important piece of dialogue and setup for the story was after the missing reel. He's got a Death Proof car and uses it to kill women with.. thats all we need to know. Hell.. we're even told why he does it by Michael Parks in the hospital scene. We don't need to see him eating bowls of nachos... the story about the lap dance has nothing to do with the story.. the girls are red-shirts slated to die that just won't shut the fuck up and die. Everything before the missing reel is pointless to everything after the missing reel. This is literally 2 movies.. Bullshit 45(minutes) and Death Proof. The only saving grace is that on VIDEO I can skip past that pointless drivel straight to the actual movie. But those 45 minutes are the only reason I will never pay to watch this movie in the theaters again.
As always, a great review by Moriarty by criticalbliss	Apr 7th, 2007 10:32:58 AM
I'm there already.
grindhouse by OscarH	Apr 7th, 2007 10:52:57 AM
I'm broke until next week! probably cause I'm on dis here computer writing about how desprately I wanna go see this movie. I'm going to my ass to work.
The last minute and a half of "Death Proof"... by Darth_Gonz	Apr 7th, 2007 11:00:25 AM
....was not only completely unexpected, but absolutely fucking hilarious. I shot my arms up in the air, as well! Well played, QT. Well played. Don't listen to the rest of the faggoty fanboy film student types in this talkbalk. If they stared into the eyes of God himself, they'd be underwhelmed and then bitch about it on the internet.
Jungle Julia's Obit by stuntman mikey	Apr 7th, 2007 11:07:19 AM
Keep an eye out during your second GH go-around for the jungle julia shout out playing on the radio of El Wray's Truck. Nice. By the way, which costume do you think will be more popular this halloween - Stuntman Mike or Cherry Darling? Getting my crocodile tears ready to cry on command for my outing as SM. Cheers and god bless GH.
Vanishing Point by MissionMan8	Apr 7th, 2007 11:12:05 AM
I caught the first afternoon screening of Grindhouse opening day. After QT's homage paid to Vanishing Point, I rented it at the video store across the street from the theatre. I bet if I waited to see Grindhouse a few days later, it wouldn't have been there. The Dodge Challenger is the star of the film and is given practically every minute on screen. Vanishing Point could definitely be included in a box set with Grindhouse.

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