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FIRST of all neon frisbees are gay!
by longevitymonk
Mar 22nd, 2007
06:58:59 AM
um...yeah...
Tron was GREAT!
by Dazzler69
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:00:56 AM
End of line.
What?
by MelvintheMopBoy
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:17:54 AM
No you idiot: scrotumS - plural!
Nevermind.
by MelvintheMopBoy
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:18:34 AM
Wrong talkback...
Ah, Tron...
by Rogue Planet
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:24:02 AM
I remember going up to stay at my aunt's every summer, and she would drop me off at the local movieplex to watch whatever films I wanted. In 1982, it was Tron (along with many others) that got my attention. I remember going out into the cul-de-sac in front of her house and playing "Tron" with the neighborhood kids, throwing a Nerf Boomerang at each other and trying to knock each other out of the game circle. I got hit in the head more times that summer than I have my entire life since, which probably explains more than a few things about me. Still, I will always remember tossing the foam-rubbery "identity disc" at my friends, and becoming a master of catching that sucker with my right hand over my left shoulder. (By the way, watch for Peter Jurasik - the actor who played Londo Mollari in Babylon 5 - in a tiny, tiny role in "Tron" as 'Crom,', one of the computer universe players. If I'm not mistaken, he was in a scene with Bruce Boxleitner - Tron his own self - who later went on to "Babylon 5" as well as John Sheridan. Small universe.) By the way, to this day whenever I see Bruce Boxleitner in a movie, my friends and I still cheer "Bruce Boxleitner IS 'Tron'!"
"that's Tron - he fights for the users"
by newc0253
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:33:30 AM
because you can't have a proper Tron talkback without that quote appearing somewhere. end of line.
to this day, apart from people getting stuck in a
by emeraldboy
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:40:58 AM
computer, i have never been able to fathom what Tron was about. Disney were always on the cutting edge and that film was mind blowing, especially the parts in the computer.
landmark
by NudeandAroused
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:43:31 AM
A landmark movie. Correct me if Im wrong, but not without a solid Babylon 5 connnection either.
Can you imagine the execs you saw that first
by emeraldboy
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:43:37 AM
Young man tell man, when did you stop taking LSD.
Did the Tron video game really predate the movie?
by Pound Sand
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:50:27 AM
Because I remember it the other way around. I never saw anybody really good at Tron, most people, including myself petered out around the third tank wave. My favorite two-player arcade game ever was a game called RIP-OFF, which intensity-wise made Tron look like a game of tic tac toe.
Tron invented cyberspace, not William Gibson:
by newc0253
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:53:26 AM
god knows why Gibson gets so much credit for supposedly inventing the concept, when Tron was the real embodiment of the idea.
but then Al Gore invented the Internet:
by newc0253
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:55:01 AM
so i guess that means Al Gore was ultimately responsible for Tron. God bless that man.
Terrific one, Harry!
by Nordling
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:58:58 AM
In my first (and only) year of college, I had the rec room's TRON game rigged to play free games. Between classes, and later, during classes, I would play to my heart's content. Lightcycles kick ass!
Mom's!!!
by PutZ
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:04:31 AM
I moved to Chattanooga for a year in 99' Mom's is still around, and your Dad was right it is some of the best italian in town! I worked at the TVA towers which were just like a block over. We'd go about once a week for lunch. As of 99 it was still ran by Mom and her family. Several short lil Italian ladies in there 70's makin the best pizza around. Ahh, I suddenly have the munchies.....
Micheal Jackson didn't turn into a wolf...
by Frijole
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:04:45 AM
He was more like a were-lynx. A monster, yes... but definitely not a werewolf. Nice write up though... not quite on the level of the E.T. one, but still nice. Why does Harry always have to equate his love for a movie with the amount of merchandise he owned from it?
Remember how they snuck in Pac Man?
by Orcus
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:30:18 AM
Cracks me up every time I hear that Wokka Wokka onscreen. If anyone is inclined, the novelizaion was pretty good. I think it was done by Brian Daley. Good read
I used to have two Intellivision Tron Games...
by Manos
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:34:39 AM
The first was a Disk battle with a little blue Tron and a bunch of red bad guys. The second had Tron threading his way through a computer to get to the MCP. Anybody remember those games, or the titles?
That's cool.. Harry's reaction to Tron is like mine..
by Cotton McKnight
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:42:25 AM
to Star Wars. Except I was 3 when I saw it and it REALLY changed my life. Nice article.
Intellivision
by Phimseto
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:55:58 AM
Yeah, those games were great. I had an Atari version of one of those, too.
TRON IS PLAYING..
by Redfive!
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:59:17 AM
Tron is making its rounds in california at The Flashback flicks series in certain cities in California. I knows its playing in Clovis soon and Sacramento will probally get it next then Visalia then down south.Long Live Flynn
I was the same age as Harry when I saw Tron...
by Rendell
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:06:33 AM
And the design and concept of that movie just blew my mind! Loved the tanks, the Lightcycles and even the Randomizers. Still have the two arcade games on MAME on my MAC, the sound effects and music are terrific. Although if memory serves didn't the "Discs of Tron" game come out a few years after the movie? Its graphics look considerably more advanced for a game in 1982.
Got TRON too
by BetaSword
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:15:56 AM
Well, i've got Tron too, and even the TRON 2.0-Game alltogether with the Tron-2.0-Frisbee(needed to request this at the store). I've played through the Game, and got most of the Sub in Gold. It was pretty nice, seeing all those Computer-Environments ingame.
Come back, Starlog magazine
by rev_skarekroe
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:26:26 AM
The world needs you.
"There are no problems. Only solutions."
by Acne Scarface
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:42:17 AM
any1 remember the tomy handheld game? had that & the light cycle, tron, sark figures. used to have music class in 3rd or 4th grade where students could bring in a record to play each week. brought the soundtrack, had a sista dancin' to journey. good times.
Moses!
by SPECTRE Agent
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:43:23 AM
Peter Griffin: "What was the name of that bad guy from Tron? Ugh, this is gonna drive me nuts..."
The internet is for porn
by Fecal Debris
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:43:53 AM
First and foremost, everything personal computers are today may be traced back to guys wanted to share pictures of nekkid ladies
Hey Phimseto
by Fecal Debris
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:48:13 AM
You can get all the Intellivision games on a single CD now for like $10 bucks. Or download and play many mimes of them online. Atari has licensed similar "best of arcade" CD best-ofs. The nostaligia is great, but one minute into playing you'll be like, "I can't believe these were once the pinnacle of computer graphics."
Ah, RAM...We Hardly Knew Ye...*sniff*
by uss cygnus
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:51:10 AM
"Flynn...Help Tron." Immortal.
How were we that lucky?
by brattain
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:52:34 AM
When I was 5 years old: Jaws. 7, Star Wars. 10, Empire. 11, Raiders (yea, baby). 12, Khan/Blade Runner. 13, Jedi (totally delivered for me). 14, Temple of Doom (way better than Last Crusade, which is way better than 90% of today's crap). 15, Back to the Future. 16, Aliens. And you know I'm leaving out a ton of other great movies in those years. THAT was my childhood. I feel sorry for the kids who's "big movies" are the likes of Independence Day and Armageddon.
HOMER: Uh, ever see that movie "Tron"?
by Osmosis Jones
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:54:23 AM
"No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "No." "Yes." [laughs nervously] "Ah, I mean no."
Tron 2 and/or a Tron remake WILL be made soon
by CarmillaVonDoom
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:04:28 AM
Just a matter of time!
I love Tron. Loved it as a kid. Still love it today.
by CrichtonAstronut
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:05:53 AM
It's brilliantly contructed cyberworld is still about the best on the big screen. The logic behind how things work in the computer world. User Powers and Flynn as Jesus thing was cool too. Playing off the Star Wars Savior plan. The MCP voice is still creepy as hell. Next to Tron all other NetWorld environments seemed like pretenders. I too found myself hoping for a sequel. I remember Peter Jurasik now, I'd never made the connection before. Bruce Boxleitner was brilliant here as he was in B5. Didn't the guy who play Sark/Dillinger play some kind of Priest on Babylon 5 seraching for the Holy Grail. Tron was a favorite of mine and still holds up well today. Speaking Disney scifi, anyone remembver The Black Hole. Creepy dude from Psycho, Vincent, Rineheart and those creepy lobotomized zombie cyborgs. The idea of robots running a ship where humans are reduced to drones was one of the more evokative and disturbing images of my young fiction consuming life. Rineheart's Ahab and "Norman Bate's" crisis of conscience were well played too. But Maxamillian really hit the top of my personal inography of menace. He was like Darth Vade on stertoids. And all the creepier 'cause he didn' talk. And even the sight of him wasn't as scary as seeing the lobotomization process than turn people into machines working for the robots. And then of course the black hole itself in all it dark swirling glory. This movie really solidified my love for the scifi genre. Never thought it got enough credit for a pre-Matrix pre Terminator machine run world.
Great article Harry, Mori. Question.
by CarmillaVonDoom
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:07:02 AM
Do you guys know anyone of age who got to see VIDEODROME in theaters?? And who knew what it portended?? That would be a great write up for this series imo. Please, keep these coming. xoxo
So weird... I just watched this the other night
by GiggityGoo
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:09:21 AM
I was feeling nostalgiac myself, so I pulled "Tron" off the shelf. I enjoyed revisiting it, but once it was over... I realized it was time to let it go. So it's now in my Amoeba trade-in pile. Don't get me wrong, it's fun, and imaginative... but it just doesn't hold up for me.

Still, gotta love David Warner, the go-to guy for early 80s adversaries.

TRON
by George Peppard
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:12:27 AM
is a beautiful movie, and I don't even like computers. The grainy black and white film plus the lurid computer graphics is a fantastic combination. I love that chocolate in my peanut butter. The story is tight and relatable-the guy just wants to nail his boss! (the dude just wants his rug back). Bridges gives an amazing performance. All those clowns who complain about bluescreen work and how it makes for stiff performances can eat it. Bridges kills and he did the whole thing looking at a black curtain. And please. No. Remake.
TRON rocked
by jrbarker
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:19:34 AM
It was one of the first movies I remember seeing theatrically. It blew my mind. The doc on the DVD is great.
I never saw this.
by Z-Man
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:20:07 AM
I hate it when people come into a talkback and post some know-it-all contrarian comment just to piss everyone off, but I just thought this movie looked horrible. And I still do. That neon-y look is just so incredibly...stupid. And the idea of someone being stuck in a computer program just seemed so...dumb. Like the premise for some Sid & Marty Kroft show or something. Consider me perplexed.
I wish they'd do a remake or a sequel
by frenchtoastmanifesto
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:23:33 AM
I love TRON. It was such an influential film in my writing career. Come on, Disney, get a TRON project into production!
This may be a little nitpicky...
by purplemonkeydw
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:40:19 AM
but does Harry need his articles prefaced, and concluded like that? It's still his site right? He can just write articles and post them, yeah? Harry, are you about to start referring to yourself in the third person? Things are getting weird...
TRON was FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!
by Motoko Kusanagi
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:46:47 AM
Man, I just LOVE this movie!!!
There is a sequel
by gusradio
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:33:09 AM
For Xbox or PC... Tron 2.0
I remember all that shit, too
by Kentucky Colonel
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:33:34 AM
Wasn't that Parker Brother's ESB videogame the tits? Speaking of tits, that was the year I first copped a feel. Anita Tharp was her name. we used to make out under the fiberglass cheeseburgers at the "new" McDonalds at the corner of Bruce Avenue & Third Street road. Those fiberglass burgers are still there, but I last saw Anita in 1986. I hope she's doing well. Great kisser. That was also the year of "Bark at the Moon", I believe. "Sister Christian", too. And my first concert...Girlschool, Night Ranger and Quiet Riot. Going to school at Lyman T. Johnson Middle. And Tron. Oh boy TRON. My nickname in the 8th grade was Flynn. I'd had my Commodore VIC20 and got the 64 the day it came out. I was on all the bulletin boards, much to my mom's chagrin (will you please turn that damned computer off....I need to make a call!). Louisville's Commodore Connection (Bob Myers) and the Pirate's Cove (Jeff Baxter, not the one from the Doobie Bros) were real big in my cirlce. I had two or three copies of the TRON STARLOG, cut them to pieces and made my own TRON posters. I had the action figures (still have the Flynn figure) and the rip-cord fueled lightcycle. My stepbrother & I used to crash them into each other (fools!). That was indeed a magic summer. I pull out the DVD about every four months or so and give it a spin. I was crushed when I got to TRON PC game and couldn't play it cause my graphics were lacking (still are). A new TRON movie would be nice, but unless done by true believers it could also be ball crushingly bad. Great piece...keep em coming!
No problems....only solutions
by Kentucky Colonel
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:42:07 AM
Great line....written by John Lennon. "Watching the Wheels" from Double Fantasy. Somebody please string (he-who-must-not-be-named) up by the balls and go mideval on his ass. Couldn't you have just as easily killed Ringo instead? Lennon was supposed to play Dr. Hawking (aka Steven Hume) in Wargames, but he didn't get to, did he (fucker!). You can see the Pac-Man cameo on the widescreen DVD. End of Line.
I Stole A TRON Poster From A Theater. Smashed The...
by Buzz Maverik
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:47:25 AM
...display and cheesed it before the cops showed up. I was the only person at my stupid university to have an actual movie poster on my wall. The TRON games actually kind of sucked, though. They were a pain in the ass to play when you had Tempest, Zaxxon, Burger Time, Centipede in the arcades. They were better in idea than in execution, sort of like the movie. I loved the movie, but it was a guilty pleasure. I liked the freakiness about it, the WIZARD OF OZ dual identities, and I really consider it to be the unsung inspiration for THE MAXTIX. Dug the visuals. Liked the positivity. Bridges, Boxleitner and Warner were cool. Cindy Morgan was hot...not as hot as she was as Ted Knight's nympho niece in CADDYSHACK, but...Light cycle action sequence was great. But I gotta tell ya...I was 18 years old and I played a shitload of arcade games as well as being obsessed with filmmaking and it bothered me how little the filmmakers knew about video games. I mean, how could that stuff hold up to Defender or Galaga or even Astro Blaster? I liked the semi-STAR WARS spirit, but even then, I felt the dialog was like STAR WARS if Lucas had actually written it. Thank Gawd for help from the Film Brat generation, ya know? They rereleased STAR WARS in theaters at the time and you could compare 'em. Most of the stuff they had Flynn doing in the computer was cringe worthy. He diverted a beam and jumped into infinity or something? Based on what? I liked the Flynn character but it's like Flynn's action was written by a child and Tron's action was written by a filmmaker. I bought the TRON DVD and my kids and I love it, though. You can see TRON's influence in stuff like SPY KIDS 3D, etc. Gotta check out THE BLACK HOLE again...
tron in london, england.
by mrvannostrand
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:58:07 AM
when i was ten years old i went to see tron in leicester square (think times square with 5 huge cinemas) every sunday for seven weeks in a row. 70mm print in a gigantic 'odeon' screen. heaven.
Re: Brattain
by SK229
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:16:48 PM
I know man... it makes me really sad to think about it. What an amazing time to grow up a movie lover. And now... nothing but shit. Well, mostly shit and I'll get to that in a bit. Even the movies that are good today somehow don't measure up, and I don't even mean cause we're being nostalgic, they REALLY don't measure up. I don't buy that rose-tinted glasses argument, those movies had something hardly any have today - heart. And you can still feel it when you pop them in. Some of them even had an element NO movies have today - interesting ideas. I know, I know... Children of Men... while I enjoyed it and thought it was head and shoulders above most movies today, it is still light years behind Blade Runner and Alien(s). There were some amazing technical achievements in it, but I just didn't feel it's heart pumping as much as others did. It had one, but it was a like a limp pulse brought back to life - that is, when you compare it to everything else today, it is BETTER than our faves from the 70's and 80's because back then, there was a cool, memorable movie every other week. Sometimes every week! Still, I have to say, COM pointed to one thing both in its ending and in the larger world of cinema itself - hope.
Ah, The 80's......
by emeraldboy
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:20:47 PM
Navan, the trips to cork, Savoy cinema, the ambassador, seeing walt disney films for the first time, going to see Hammond's Dodgy spiderman, tv- movie on the big screen, hunt for red october, Being creeped out by the Watcher in the woods ads. Gremlins, ghostbusters. The Indy movies and finally seeing the Three Amigos. Back to the future. I remember the excitement of Savoy's big announcement of having the largest screen in Ireland. That was more the 1990's. Before every film in the Savoy they would play Henry Mancini's Cinema Fantastique. Great once not so the tenth.
Tron was a very disappointing film
by Rupee88
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:21:35 PM
I remember looking forward to it, but it was just very underwhelming.
One Correction
by utz_world
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:24:27 PM
MJ's "Thriller" video dropped in Christmas 1983...not 1982.
What d'ya wanna bet?
by zoomddy
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:31:37 PM
Disney will find out people still dig Tron, and will either do a prequel (Tron was just a kilobyte in his father's eye) or rerelease it to theaters with "all new special effects . . . superbadassandcool!"
End of Line...
by Lennard
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:35:29 PM
heh I have that as a wav clip when my PC shuts down.
Tron Deadly Discs
by Mike Fornes
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:45:15 PM
That Intellivision could heat the entire family room after a few hours. That Regonizer's eye was tough to hit. Mori's intro reads like an appplication to Tron college.
I didn't like Tron first.
by DerLanghaarige
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:47:14 PM
But I was 10 or so, when I saw it for the first time. Meanwhile I love it :)
nicely written Harry.
by mr. brownstone
Mar 22nd, 2007
12:51:03 PM
that brought me back.
Thriller video came out in December 1983
by Moa Kaka
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:20:27 PM
Not 1982. Sure, if you just google "1982" you'll get references to Thriller because the ALBUM was released in Dec. 1982. But that famous video that Harry recalls watching in 1982 wasn't released until a year later. Describing memories are great - but they shouldbe true memories and not stuff you looked up on google.
Thriller video is from late 83, but mostly 84
by Orionsangels
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:29:34 PM
Sorry, had to be said
ROCKY III is from 83
by Orionsangels
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:31:27 PM
Get your facts straight. Someones lying here!
without 'Wendy Carlos' TRON would be nothing!
by Orionsangels
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:40:26 PM
Her score is the most unique film score ever composed. Harry did you check out the alternate version of the lightcycle sequence, but with a score? I'm not sure I like it better than the original, but it's damn interesting how it changes the scene. How do I feel about TRON? I was 9 at the time. TRON to me was the peak of that golden era of video games. I watch TRON today and I feel 9 again and I'm in an Arcade and it smells like sweat and popcorn and so many bleeps and blip sounds are exploding into my ears. I can't hear myself think, but that's ok, because I'm wandering my local Arcade. Silver Ball in NJ and I'm walking toward Galaga.
Damn, apparently Rocky III was from 82
by Orionsangels
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:45:53 PM
Okay, my bad. I saw it on cable in 83. That's why I always associate it with 1983.
So many great memories.
by Wingnut1A
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:48:08 PM
Just for the record: they were called Recognizers, not Randomizers ;) * One of my all-time favorites. Wendy Carlos' score still thrills me. * Does anyone remember the Tron Videogame area in the Starcade in Disneyland? Or the lightcycle section of the PeopleMover ride? * Also, there is a comic book of Tron currently in production. Issue 3 is coming out soon. * 1982 was definitly the best genre year of all time.
About the Wendy Carlos score
by Wingnut1A
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:52:04 PM
If anyone is interested, check out the Wendy Carlos Homepage. There is a great story about how the original Tron music master tapes were almost lost forever, and the quite low-tech way they were able to save them.
Robert E Lee
by garcicr
Mar 22nd, 2007
01:53:29 PM
Dude if he is talking bout the school in Dallas I totally went there but I started in 85 our rivals was were the kids at Stone Wall Jackson wow South Vs North ha ha we had the neigbor hoods and they had the Deaf kidz ahh memories. Saw Tron once and Ive had to many beers since then so cant coment on it.
In High school...
by Somerichs
Mar 22nd, 2007
02:29:27 PM
or was it Junior High (? I was a freshman in 85, FYI), my computer teacher showed Tron to the class as a way of teaching us all the different computer terminology (RAM, ROM, etc). Kinda cool, actually. While i don't recall actually seeing this movie in the theater, i played the hell out of the video game in the arcades, and had that crazy Intellivision one, not the disk one, but the other one someone mentioned. Played that all the time, too, even though i couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on to save my life. I even plugged my intellivision back in about 10 years or so ago and played it again and STILL couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on. Still didn't stop me from spending a good two hours playing it, though... :) Good series of stories, you guys, keep em comin! (born in 71, 11 in 82...niiiiiice).
Harry, you got it.
by briantag
Mar 22nd, 2007
02:32:47 PM
Right on, with all the references. Starlog, the videogames, the other movies, the songs. Everything I would have listed. It's eerie. Even the BASIC computer classes at school (and for me, summer computer camp). I remember seeing Tron first, and then the videogame was in the movie theatre lobby. My dad gave me 10 bucks and told me to bring back change (I think the ticket was about 3 or 4 dollars). I spent all the other money on quarters for the videogame. He was piss-ed off-ed!
TRON was interesting
by council estate scumbag
Mar 22nd, 2007
02:47:20 PM
historically speaking dat is. at the time it was a pile of shit. it smelt like my auntie Brenda's bras. now time has shown this fucking film is alright and brought forth many talents we now look up to. but i still dont wanna buy (or steal) this hulking historical antelope crap. its like asking me to sit thru popeye with robin williams again. i got so fucking angry i puched the tv and broke it, and my hand. wouldnt have minded but it werent my fucking house. it was this bird that i was tryna crack into and she told me to leave after that.
the preface to Harry's writeup...
by omarthesnake
Mar 22nd, 2007
02:48:07 PM
was rather blatantly jammed in so Moriarty could shove his memories of Tron down all our throats rather than just let Harry say his thing and get on with it.
I own one of the 10,000 made Arcade Games
by ElectricDreams
Mar 22nd, 2007
02:53:47 PM
Before the July 9th premiere of TRON, the best way to introdce the world of TRON was thru an arcade game based on the film. Disney teamed w/ Bally to create and distribute 10,000 units thru their arcades nationwide. My dad back in the mid-80's bought an arcade that was going out of business and re-sold some of the machines, but for a long time my house was the coolest in the neighborhood. My friends would pile over after school to play Dig Dug, Zaxxon, Frogger, Sea Wolf, TRON and others. Eventually more and more of the games vanished from my home over the years. The last to go was the table-top Donkey Kong which even then referred to Mario only as "the Plumber". Now sitting at my dad's house in Florida are the sacred TRON arcade game and a table top Space Invaders. 2 generations have played that game and I see my little cousins who are the same age as I was when I 1st started playing, now zooming light cycles and shooting grid bugs. TRON is a huge staple in my life as well...
Earliest Oscar Memory...
by nancyreagan
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:09:06 PM
I remember watching the Oscars back in '83 and getting really pissed when Ghandi won best costuming over Tron. The bald guy wrapped in a sheet beats neon fucking body suits and bike helmets? I've never been able to take the Oscars seriously since.
I hope you're kidding council...
by Frijole
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:14:41 PM
If not, you sound like a real dimwit.
I had no idea that
by Nordling
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:16:06 PM
TRON was nominated for Best Costumes. Looking back now it's pretty damn obvious it should have won that award. Also, the prefaces are great, imo. They lead in perfectly.
TRON Intellivision games (and more)
by cyberskunk
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:18:01 PM
One was TRON Deadly Discs another was TRON Maze-a-Tron. Yet another (I think) that I never played was a Solar Sailor game. I have a dim recollection it was supposed to use speech. I did not like Maze-a-TRON. I liked Deadly Discs. I liked Discs of TRON in the arcade, where you played against Sark, and he'd say stuff and vairations of stuff from the movie. "Had enough? Bring in the logic probe. We'll get, you it's only a matter of time!" In the first arcade game, the levels were named after programming languages. After a number of languages, it went to USER and stopped there. I did not think it was possible to destroy all the grid bugs, but it was. when this happens, the sound of your going up the I/O tower rose to a much higher pitch. When you destroyed all the grid bugs, the game drags you into the tower.

Did you know there is a free light cycle game? GLTRON! Woo! http://www.gltron.org And someone has a Space Paranoids inspired game. I don't remember where that is.

Disneyland's extinct People Mover used to have a TRON section of ride. What was at one point a high speed tunnel became TRON. You'd hear a voice issuing a warning and then all these images from TRON would be displayed on the walls of the tunnel as your people mover went by. Then the voice would issue some other hostile announcement as you left, I think.

I wish Disneyland would make a dedicated TRON ride. You know how in Journey through Innerspace, in line, there'd be little scientific blurbs posted here and there for people to see? There could be information about computing hardware and software basics and how these have advanced over time. And people could be 'digitized' in groups like in the stretching room of the haunted mansion, and then there'd be a bunch of black-lit designs on the walls as you walked to the sit-down portion of the ride. Although it'd probably look hokey.

Here's the MCP singing Gerry Rafferty: "It's been you, wo-man, right down the end of line."

Great one, Your HeadGeekiness
by MemBirdman
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:22:16 PM
To this day, I type, "Greetings Programs," whenever I join a group of people online. That we're living in a world where the universe in the computer makes sense makes Tron all the more special.
Parts of Tron were recycled and used in Epcot rides...
by SK229
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:27:22 PM
including music and images, specifically, there was a section of the Horizons ride (now Mission Space) with a 5 story screen and they used some of the computer graphics sequences from Tron in there. Pieces of music were used EVERYWHERE in epcot when it opened, including, I believe, in some of the promotional materials.
Acne Scarface - TOMY game
by Sir Loin
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:28:00 PM
Yep, I remember that handheld game and still have it, in fact! I think it still works...
TRON FUNKING BLOW! (More cheers more beers!)
by Flim Springfield
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:28:40 PM
Dillinger's desk was awesome
by Sir Loin
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:29:17 PM
I love how it shows a pre-Web interface, complete with images from around the world mixed in with computer graphics. Plus that flat, back-lit keyboard. Always wanted a desk like that.
they need to re-release TRON on IMAX
by Sir Loin
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:35:08 PM
Wouldn't that rock? Also, if you can find those old STARLOGs, they are a blast to read.
I hope you're kidding council...
by Frijole
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:38:56 PM
If not, you sound like a real dimwit.
Whoops... How'd THAT happen?
by Frijole
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:44:12 PM
Cindy Morgan anyone? Hachi Machi!!!
OmarTheSnake
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 22nd, 2007
03:48:50 PM
"Jammed in"? Ummm... I had the idea for the series of articles, and I've organized all the various writers contributing, and the whole point was always for me to edit a series of pieces. And, yes, write "jammed in" introductions to each.

It is amazing what someone will decide to be a douchebag about in talkback. Congratulations on being the most arbitrary dickhead today.

"Tron" was access restricted in my house...
by Bones
Mar 22nd, 2007
04:09:38 PM
Report to Dillinger!

My mom told me I couldn't go see it because it looked "too loud and was obviously unrealistic about computers". I was nine years old and crushed. I had been cutting out and saving the comic strip adaptation that had been running in our newspaper, had been following it in Starlog and had played the video game in the arcade (yes the game came out first). I was beside myself to see it.

Then, my dad told me he would take me and we saw it at the only 70mm theatre in Columbus Ohio. You have to love the perks of being a child of divorce, when parents will willing defy each other in an attempt to win your love!

It was awesome. My first forbidden fruit and it tasted sweet. I kept Tron memorabilia hidden in my room the way some people hide their porn stache...Gross, I know--but if you are going to rebel against authority, isn't it nice that it was something as benign as "Tron"? A few years later, my mom caught Tron on the Disney channel--and loved it. I had to laugh when she asked "Why didn't we see this in the theatre?"

Oh, Mom!

Best TRON Arcade game was...
by moto
Mar 22nd, 2007
04:15:33 PM
TRON : DISK... something like that. The one where you actually stepped into it, and it was all about disk battles between Tron(you) and the red dudes. FUCKING best Arcade game experience in my mind. Really an amped up version of Pong, but just awesome.
Best TRON Arcade game was...
by moto
Mar 22nd, 2007
04:15:36 PM
TRON : DISK... something like that. The one where you actually stepped into it, and it was all about disk battles between Tron(you) and the red dudes. FUCKING best Arcade game experience in my mind. Really an amped up version of Pong, but just awesome.
Tron Begins
by Jonesey1111
Mar 22nd, 2007
04:18:04 PM
They've done it with every other franchise.
It wouldn't be TRON BEGINS
by Nordling
Mar 22nd, 2007
04:21:56 PM
it would be TRON RELOADED - er, nevermind.
Saw it again last year at The Castro Theater...
by Zardoz
Mar 22nd, 2007
04:26:00 PM
It was a sold-out show and the audience LOVED it! (I kept the special ticket and convinced the ticket-taker not to tear it!)I was 12 when I saw it at the Robert E. Lee Theater in New Orleans. We all played the shit out of the video game. Every once in a while I still find a working one someplace and just have to play it. Good times! End of line...
Ah yes, '82 and it Hurts so Good.
by TomBodet
Mar 22nd, 2007
05:11:49 PM
Fun how the memory conflates these things. No one really know about 'Thriller' that year as it wasn't released til December '82, and what you did hear was Whacky Jax and Paulie's little 'The Girl is Mine'. Check out '83 if you wanna hear 'Hungry like the Wolf' too-it was about this time of that year, late winter. Sorry but it's true, as it was in the middle of my HS years, and you can look that shit up if you really, really wanna and are as big a dork as I am. Ditto for 1999. That's an '83 story too like it or not. Shoot me now I know. I would too.

Tron was cool. I liked it then and from what I saw of it on a repeat few years back, it's still good. Heck I just saw 'Starman' again on the telly a week ago-when's the last time you saw THAT? Jeff Bridges is plain great. I can remember how both Siskel and Ebert just gushed about it, for what it's worth. Interesting memories there.

Yep, best Tron Game: Discs of Tron
by Doc_Strange
Mar 22nd, 2007
05:28:54 PM
That had to be one of the BEST arcade games ever. I just loved trying to hit Sark while we both jumped from platform to platform. If you have the MAME arcade emulator, it's still available for download along with pretty much every other arcade game made in the last 30-40 years. But Discs of Tron will always be up there with Punch Out, Dragons Lair, and Space Ace. As for the film, I pop it in every now and then. I think it holds up remarkably well and Jeff Bridges will always be Flynn to me. The same goes for Bruce Boxleitner. On a last note, if you haven't played Tron 2.0, you're missing out on some serious eye candy. Good game.
What's this about Dave Chappelle?
by Doctor Zoidberg
Mar 22nd, 2007
05:55:52 PM
just wondering
This movie is great. It would still work if
by superninja
Mar 22nd, 2007
05:58:24 PM
they touched up the effects and just gave it modern bookends. The actual computer world could use some peopling, though.
emeraldboy, Tron is a great intelligent design movie.
by superninja
Mar 22nd, 2007
06:03:42 PM
It's about salvation and hope. "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
1982!
by williamD
Mar 22nd, 2007
06:22:09 PM
I turned 16 that year, and I saw some GOOD movies that year!FAST TIMES, E.T., Oh yeah!
I'm jealous, Sir Loin!
by Acne Scarface
Mar 22nd, 2007
06:31:26 PM
& if u get it workin' again, as u play, remember "it's all in ze wrists!"
Chattanooga! hahahah i grew up there too
by mdforehand
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:23:46 PM
I live in san francisco designing games now, but man let me just say that chattanooga is as far from anything exciting as you can get.
Now that is a big door!
by kwisatzhaderach
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:25:40 PM
One of the best movie lines ever. Tron is awesome...and Jeff Bridges is a legend!
harrypoos!!
by smylexx
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:28:53 PM
You know, i'm loving the nostalgia trips.Purrrrrleeeease do more of them. But you know, it's sorta making me a little sad too. I was just thinking back over the last 20 years and i really cant think of a sci-fi flick that even comes close to stuff such as Blade Runner, The Thing, Silent Running and Tron... (im not counting Jurassic Park cos it doesnt have spaceships or flashy spacesuits in it) Maybe i'm wrong but has there been a REALLY good sci-fi flick in the last 15 years? (if you mention ID4, i'll hurt you with a spork, i mean it... i have a spork around here somewhere).
Harrypoos!!
by smylexx
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:30:54 PM
By the way, if you do actualy answer my question, it will be as if i've been touched by a geek-god and my life will be complete. No really, i mean it. No, i do. Stop looking at me like that.
I thought ID4 was GREAT.
by TomBodet
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:31:32 PM
It was an 80's movie stuck in '96. Search your feelings-You know it to be true!

I remember enjoying 'Clash of the Titans' from '81, though it Was pretty bad I imagine. At the time...hey we all thought it was fun.

Clash of the Titans rocks. That movie
by superninja
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:52:19 PM
is great.
Clash of the Titans is better than
by superninja
Mar 22nd, 2007
07:52:52 PM
the last two Matrix movies, hah hah.
Clash of the Titans
by Doc_Strange
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:14:17 PM
Is one of the GREATEST movies of all time. I remember seeing it in a double feature along with Dragonslayer. How could you not love the mythology, the great characters and creatures? Who could forget Calibos? The Ferry Man and Medusa still give me the creeps. I still get chills when her head is turning the Kraken to stone at the end. Awesome stuff. Too bad they never released a worthwhile DVD, just that back catalogue, single disc with no extras. Lame.
What is a Tron? Does it have
by Bronx Cheer
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:28:47 PM
COSMPIC POWERS?
I enjoyed the medusa head snakey things yeah.
by TomBodet
Mar 22nd, 2007
08:51:05 PM
And the stop action-don't get me wrong. Last time I watched it-the F/X were still fun-Harry Hamlin as Perseus was, umm okay, the rest-well it's...what it is, right? Beboo the Owl.

Then we have one from 1984 I liked--Tank. James Garner. Word.

uh.. the TRON ARCADE GAME was BASED on the movie...
by Hideo Kojima
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:18:16 PM
not the other way around... research much?
Sorry, TomBodet...
by DocPazuzu
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:38:08 PM
...love your work, but it's Bubo the magical R2-D2 owl, and Hungry like the Wolf DID actually come out in ´82.
Lowly dogs!
by DocPazuzu
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:42:14 PM
Bow before the awesome might of... The Tron Guy: www.tronguy.net .... I can't believe we've gone this far in a Tron TB without this legendary link being posted. Be warned, however - you'll never be the same again...
end of line, indeed:
by DocPazuzu
Mar 22nd, 2007
09:44:38 PM
www.tronguy.net/TRONcostume/
Hideo Kojima...
by Bones
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:17:11 PM
Yes, The TRON video game was BASED on the film TRON...but it was released into arcades BEFORE the movie came out, as a way to drum up interest in the movie...and make some cash of it's own. In fact, the arcade game was more successful than the film that spawned it, leading to the "Discs of Tron" video game the next year.

The coolest thing about Discs of Tron, was that the image of the discs was reflected on a piece of glass, so it looked like the discs you fought on floated like a hologram....cool stuff...

TRON Deadly Discs Intellivision game
by cyberskunk
Mar 22nd, 2007
10:49:53 PM
You could hold up your disc like a shield to block incoming discs, which could be broken. Occasionally, a recognizer would appear and send something out to paralyze you while it repaired exits so you couldn't warp from one side of the screen to the other through them.

If you did well enough in the game, it'd stop sending out disc-wielding guys to fight you, and you'd instead get the guards from the movie with their stun staves. They each took a few hits with your disc to destroy, but if they touched you, you'd be paralyzed and the game would end. I liked this game. You only had a single disc, but you could cancel a throw and get it coming back to you whenever you wanted.

Good memories....
by MattXFLexicon
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:14:32 PM
I remember seeing TRON with my Dad when it was released in 82. I still have a soft spot for it. Wendy Carlos' score is one of the most seemless uses of synth music with an orchestral score and choir. While the plot and characterizations are a little thin, that was beside the point. It was really a film about ideas, it's interesting it predicted sort of, thematically at least, the rise of internet and the PC. David Warner was the Alan Rickman of his day.It's a shame that Steve Lisberger has had such trouble green lighting a sequel. I was going through my Journey phase in Jr. High School, so I have some sweet memories hearing that tune. End of Line.
David Warner was also an Immortal Cardassian
by uss cygnus
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:21:35 PM
As well as being the ORIGINAL Sark/Ed Dillinger, in TNG, He drove Jean-Luc to "THERE...ARE...*FOUR*...LIGHTS !!!". Followed immediately by Patrick Stewart ripping his arm away from the Cardi guard who tried to help carry him out of the room...total Geekgasm. I also use "Sherman, set the wayback machine for..." in the Jeff Bridges, but not Mr. Peabody style because of this film.
Sorry, but TRON is a lousy, lousy movie.
by Nosferatu Jones
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:21:54 PM
TRON only has 3 things going for it: 1) Obviously, the computer effects (and the only reason we still talk about this movie); 2) the overrated but still suitably electronic score by Wendy/Walter/Whatever Carlos; and 3) Jeff Bridges, the only actor in the ENTIRE FILM who valiantly tries to breathe some sort of life into an otherwise dopey role. And that's it, folks. I understand why people have some fond, gulity-pleasure memories of TRON (hey, I own the DVD, too), but DON'T try to convince anyone in their right mind that this is some sort of lost, neglected "classic." It's pure, dated, '80s cheese all the way. Films like THE BLACK HOLE, FLASH GORDON and THE BEASTMASTER are much better examples of "guilty pleasure" genre flicks that actually succeed at being better than they should be. TRON is just... dull.
And Bernard Hughes in that funky, TRON-land hat...
by Nosferatu Jones
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:25:59 PM
...and Sphinx-like get-up is the FUNNIEST thing to ever come out of '80s cinema. And probably the one image that sunk the film's credibility.
Chattanooga
by jae683
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:46:29 PM
I live in Chattanooga. The downtown area is pretty nice now. They did a lot of renovation to it.
FIRST of all neon frisbees are gay!
by RobotsInc.biz
Mar 22nd, 2007
11:51:42 PM
Is "gay" a negative homophobic comment? Let's all use "That's so Christian!" I knew David Warner a few years ago, he is the nicest villian I ever met! Star Trek era.
Pretty Good Driving Huh?
by Doc_Strange
Mar 23rd, 2007
12:33:17 AM
"No." Who asked you?
I should never have written all those tank programs
by Doc_Strange
Mar 23rd, 2007
12:35:10 AM
They should seriously look at greenlighting a sequel. The possibilities of seeing the internet through the world of Tron could be awesome though we got a taste of it in 2.0
This movie had a huge impact on me.
by Mogwai Democracy
Mar 23rd, 2007
12:46:48 AM
Damn, I love this film. Never before and never since has a film so completely & successfully immersed the viewer in such an alien environment. Seeing this film is like living in a work of abstract art for 90 minutes. That pervasive, electric blue color, all of the elegant abstract geometrical designs, the brilliance of Moebius & Syd Mead's work. Every time you watch Tron, when the film ends you really feel like you were... somewhere else.

It was like the expierience of walking into an arcade back in the day. You step into the cool arcade from a hot summers day & it's real dark, and suddenly theres this rush of synthetic sound coming from everywhere: explosions, theme songs, wakka wakka, etc. All of the graphics and the colors... an arcade WAS cyberspace. Tron captured that feel and took it to the next level.

...and neon frisbees kick ass. end of line.
I dressed up as Sark for Halloween
by The Skeptical
Mar 23rd, 2007
02:06:10 AM
I wanted to be Tron, but the only flourescent tape I could get was red. I put it on a Black snowsuit, painted a cardboard helmet, and carried a glow-in-the-dark frisbee. I think it's fair to say that Tron was influential on me as well.
Someone at Century Club LA won for best costume as Tron
by Doc_Strange
Mar 23rd, 2007
02:11:21 AM
I was at the Century Club on the last night it was open back in October for Halloween. Anyway, this guy made a picture perfect Tron costume with working lights and everything. Dude won $2000 bucks as well. I wish I took a picture as it was a great costume.
wow are you guys ever looking at the past
by robamenta
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:00:34 AM
through rose colored glasses. tron was only a mediocre film at best. and that list of such great flicks of 82 are a mixed bag. just like any year.
and i didnt mean that as a criticism
by robamenta
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:14:12 AM
i am really enjoying these articles.
Bones, I never said that it wasn't released first...
by Hideo Kojima
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:22:09 AM
Sorry to give that impression, I was commenting more on Harry's comments about a video game spawning a movie...
Robamenta
by speed
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:30:18 AM
Maybe you didn't grow up in that era, so you can't appreciate the sentiment involved with seeing these movies at that time. I was 13 at the time and remember going into the city, playing video games at Timezone and Playtime in Brisbane and then hitting the cinemas to see tron with friends. This article brought the memories gushing back. Sure watching TRON now with all that we know about computers may make it seem dated, but at that time in the world, it really was a window to a fantastic world.
TRON GOTTA EAT! End of line.
by Piltdown Joey
Mar 23rd, 2007
05:11:04 AM
Just felt a compulsive need to do that.
the PaZooz meet Joel Whitburn.
by TomBodet
Mar 23rd, 2007
06:03:35 AM
Sorry 'bout the anchovies there sir. Anyways-here's Mr. Whitburn's Billboard book of Top 40 hits...Here's 'Duran Duran'...and lemme see-here's 'Hungry Like the Wolf', debuted in the top 40 week of 1/22/83....peaked at 3 spent 16 weeks in the top 40. Like I said, this thing was all over the radio roughly this time of year in '83. Sure it was technically an '82 song, but...it was a hit in '83. That's what counts. I will go back to picking gnatshit from pepper over here. Love your work too. Do lunch. Bring Ringy. We'll watch a Voltron marathon. You bring the ducks.
What about Black Hole
by Bigstadder
Mar 23rd, 2007
06:29:27 AM
Someone to mention Tron (which is still better) and not how the Black Hole really set the stage for Disney to do Scifi... the nostalga man! flying robots!
"Disneyland's People Mover used to have a TRON section"
by newc0253
Mar 23rd, 2007
07:36:54 AM
i went on that as a teenager in 82 or 84. the projection on the tunnel was so cool, i can't believe they got rid of that.
It Was The Year...
by spacechampion
Mar 23rd, 2007
08:28:11 AM
"It was the year of fire, the year of destruction, the year we took back what was ours. It was the year of rebirth, the year of great sadness, the year of pain, and the year of joy. It was a new age. It was the end of history. It was the year everything changed. The year is 2261; the place: Babylon 5." ... featuring at least three actors who were in TRON!
1982 was a great year for movies
by Mr Incredible
Mar 23rd, 2007
08:59:19 AM
Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan, Poltergeist, Rocky III, 48 HRS.,Blade Runner,The Thing, First Blood, Conan The Barbarian, Firefox, Creepshow, Evil Dead, and a little movie called E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. I'm sure I left off a couple of favorites, but TRON I remember quite fondly; movie, soundtrack, arcade game. Thanks, Harry, for sharing your memories. As for you Tron haters, until you can do something better that will last the test of time, get lost. Sure, TRON wasn't perfect, but it sure as hell was something you hadn't seen before. Rose-colored glasses or not. This movie is begging for a good sequel; why Disney won't do it is beyond me.
What we need...
by playahatersball
Mar 23rd, 2007
10:04:39 AM
is a TRON MMORPG. That would be sweet.
Rewriting History - AICN style Part 1
by tailhook
Mar 23rd, 2007
10:47:29 AM
I'm kind of perplexed as to the rose-colored glasses that cover the eyes of the writers of this site. Tron? Back in 1982 only total retards liked Tron. While the effects were groundbreaking it was considered an extremely stupid movie. Disney itself was embaressed for many years after putting it out and no doubt is the main reason they resisted EVER doing it again. The kitsch factor was to 11.. it was unrealistic.. and I suppose if you were a 6 year old kid it was the hottest shit ever. Heck.. I was 9 at the time and thought it was pure cheese.
Rewriting History - AICN style Part 2
by tailhook
Mar 23rd, 2007
10:53:07 AM
Blade Runner. I can't believe you included Blade Runner. First.. the movie on release was a bomb. Anything we see now is a result of people catching up with it once it caught on on video and pumping it up as the cult classic it definately was. But beyond that? Try no. It certainly wasn't some cornerstone of the cinema world back in 1982. It came, it went... it got built up over time.
Rewriting History - AICN style Part 3
by tailhook
Mar 23rd, 2007
10:59:00 AM
Let me be clear. 1982 was not even close to being the best year of the past 25. Seriously.. just what the fuck crack did they put in your lemonade? Are the glasses really that rose-colored that you see what you want to? Try 1999. Try 2001. Take a look at most of the major genre films released in those years and they just torch 1982. And thats just pulling 2 years out of my hat.. there are more. 1989 if you want the 80's was a shitload better than '82. You're just pointing at 1982 because thats the first time you had a good year in movies and shitting over every other year because now you're a hardened pro jaded about what comes out.
Tailhook
by Mr Incredible
Mar 23rd, 2007
11:51:54 AM
No,only a retard would post three times what he could write all at once. You are obviously outclassed and outnumbered by all the people who DID appreciate the movie, so why even bother spewing your venom here? Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one, and yours just happens to stink up the place. No one said they didn't like movies from any other year in the 80's. The only one sounding jaded is you. Get a life, ass clown.
"PREPARE TO TERMINATE!!!"
by Tacom
Mar 23rd, 2007
12:13:53 PM
Whenever I hear David Warner's voice like in The Omen" or as Ra's Al Ghul in "Batman:The Animated Series" or even on Titanic I expect him to say those lines! I first saw TRON on TV and the light cycles were the coolest thing I'd ever seen and Cindy Morgan looked incredible in those black-lit tights!
To all the TRON haters
by The Skeptical
Mar 23rd, 2007
12:53:08 PM
just go derez yourselfs. You didn't like it, fine. Go away and watch something else. Give us a couple days to relive our happy memories. (I actually think you're kind of retarded for not "getting" tron, but you don't hear me critizing you idiots.)
Speaking of strange Tron memorabelia
by The Skeptical
Mar 23rd, 2007
12:54:33 PM
...I have a Norwegian language comic book of Tron. Can anyone top that?
The_Shadow
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 23rd, 2007
02:00:04 PM
That's not true. The talkback simply moved down the front page, then off, as new stories are added. You do realize that stories don't hang on the front page forever, right? Stop crying conspiracy over every little thing.
Mogwai Democracy - arcades
by Sir Loin
Mar 23rd, 2007
02:31:47 PM
Dude, you totally nailed the arcade experience back then. It was a great escape for us kids, wasn't it? All of the sights and sounds to drown out the real world outside...it was like our own territory away from adults since most of them didn't understand videogames anyway. And let's not forget the loud 80's tunes playing in the background...
Sequel?...............Not so much.
by Legend67
Mar 23rd, 2007
02:55:51 PM
I'm like most of you guys in here about this: I am a major fan of TRON. I still love the movie today, but it is mostly for nostalgic reasons. I saw this in the theater when I was about 14 or so and it took my breath away. No small feat considering that I truly believed that I had already witnessed the epidome of cinematic entertainment that could possibly be witnessed in Star Wars. Back then there was Star Wars and then there was everything else. Anywho, I was blown away by this universe of neon colors and light cycles but do I think that there could be a sequel today? I doubt it. After the world was introduced to movies like The Matrix and shows like Star Trek: TNG that features a holodeck that can photonically generate reality it would be difficult for moviegoers to accept a low resolution world where the landscape is peppered with geometric shapes that light up. Our idea of what it is to be inside of a computer are slightly more advanced these days. If Disney gets deperate enough for more material, I'm sure they could come up with something............but it would be a "reimagining".
tailhook
by Neo Zeed
Mar 23rd, 2007
02:58:49 PM
The articles aren't about genre movies that made money. It's about the fact that you could theatre hop and land on a gem in 1982. So what if it didn't make cash and all wasn't embraced by mainstream audiences at the time. Blade Runner showed us a world we haven't seen before and it came out in '82. Period. Box office is not part of the criteria.
Hey, Shadow...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:06:53 PM
You stupid dildo: http://tinyurl.com/3yozwm
Tron is apparently too intellectually sophisticated
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:14:33 PM
for some people. :P
Response - Zeed
by tailhook
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:21:22 PM
Well shit Zeed... you can only do that every single year. 150+ movies are released.. if you can't find a gem in any year... you weren't looking. The whole point of this article and the other article was an attempt by the writers to rewrite history to their skewed perceptions as a child. The fact is this... Tron was *HATED*. IF YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT.. YOU WERENT ALIVE IN 1982.. OR YOU WERE LITTLE KID. People had basically the same reaction they had to The Phantom Menace in 1999. It was great to look at.. groundbreaking effects no doubt.. but the story was for little kids. Not teenagers.. not young adults.. little kids. I'm sure in 2024 you're gonna get some guy proclaiming that 1999 was the bestest genre year ever and write exactly the same things about that film that Harry is doing about Tron. He'll give stories about how he had lightsaber battles in his backyard as Darth Maul with his little brother as Obi Wan. And you know what.. NOTHING WILL CHANGE THE FACT THAT BOTH FILMS WERE TURDS THAT PANDERED TO LITTLE KIDS. It was viewed that way then.. its viewed that way now.
Response - Superninja
by tailhook
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:24:34 PM
Ya... to anybody under the age of say 6.
Tron is a great film.
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:32:41 PM
The bookends are dated, the rest of it really isn't. It's a wonderful adventure story that has all of the elements and I think it's wonderfully executed. And also Bruce Boxlightner as Tron is hot!
Tron wasn't for little kids. Flynn was a dog.
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:58:19 PM
He completely undergoes a moral transformation in the movie. He matures. It's a hero's journey film just like the original SW films. But I agree the prequels suck bigtime.
Seriously, tailhook, when was the last
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
03:59:57 PM
time you watched the film or are you just operating from memories of you being too cool for school in the 80s?
all this 25 years ago crap is so sappy....
by caravaggio
Mar 23rd, 2007
04:41:43 PM
sound like a bunch of old men talking about you glory days. sad thing is your glory days peeked when you were 12.
superninja
by tailhook
Mar 23rd, 2007
05:01:19 PM
If i recall.. about 5 years ago. And I quite like a lot of cheezy 80's stuff. The Last Starfighter(also in the Tron kiddie category), Iron Eagle, Gotcha!, My Science Project, Delta Force, Wildcats, and Goonies to name a few. They aren't exactly on anyones Greatest Examples of Cinema List... but neither is Tron :P.
BSB: naw. Figger of speech.
by TomBodet
Mar 23rd, 2007
05:06:57 PM
'Let's do lunch. Love your work. etc.' Meant to be a dig at Hollywood BS talk. However am sure you and Anchorite have a table w/ ferns and some jupiter juice waiting up in Denver.
TomBodet
by DocPazuzu
Mar 23rd, 2007
05:08:53 PM
Have your people call my people.
Tailhook
by The Six Fingered Man
Mar 23rd, 2007
05:50:30 PM
Something is seriously wrong with you. Calling out Tron, The Last Starfighter AND The Goonies? There is no reason for doing that except to incite a riot. Especially The Goonies. You know you didn't mean include that movie, right?
THE THING
by i eat cannibals
Mar 23rd, 2007
07:06:20 PM
I remember my brother taking me to see this and the theatre would not let me in so we went to the bad part of town where they let everyone in. This movie blew my mind. I hated ET. I thought it was kind of lite and fluffy. The Thing spoke volumes to me and still does. One of the best movies of all time.
Tron is actually an interesting film from a
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
07:37:56 PM
philosophical perspective, if you think about what all of the programs represent. I mean, it's like Citizen Kane compared to Goonies.
And Sly's people will call Rob Evans' people...
by TomBodet
Mar 23rd, 2007
08:20:06 PM
Seriously, for your viewing pleasure...http://tinyurl.com/ yvx9sv don't say I didn't warn you.
Not everybody hated TRON
by Moonwatcher
Mar 23rd, 2007
08:49:17 PM
Gene Siskel said it was "great," when he and Ebert were still on PBS. I was 27 that summer, and I was hooked from the first minute. Know what else was cool in that movie? That Flynn had an apartment directly above his arcade - no commuting, keep whatever hours you want, and late-night parties.
Why does Bravo show marathon viewings
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
09:05:33 PM
of Waterworld? I mean, does it get incredible ratings or something? I'm not saying that the ratings aren't better than their Top Design show, but still...
Why does Bravo show marathon viewings
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
09:05:36 PM
of Waterworld? I mean, does it get incredible ratings or something? I'm not saying that the ratings aren't better than their Top Design show, but still...
Wow, I did not mean to post that twice.
by superninja
Mar 23rd, 2007
09:06:34 PM
That's almost as annoying as Bravo showing Waterworld back-to-back!
My TRON Experiences
by Blind Spot
Mar 23rd, 2007
09:17:15 PM
Like Harry, I saw TRON in 1982, and I can honestly say it altered the course of my life. I got deeper into video games which ultimately lead me to my long career in video games. I have met many friends via the TRON Sector fan site. I got to work on TRON 2.0 PC and GBA at Disney. I met my friends Steven Lisberger, Richard Taylor, Harrison Ellenshaw, Syd Mead, Cindy Morgan and Dan Shor because of TRON. Steven and I started a digital archive of materials from TRON that I am just starting to put out on the net for others to view. Harrison has given me access to his materials too. For 25 years, TRON has been an important part of my life. I know many people hate the film, but it just doesn't conenct with them the way it did with me. First it opened me up to games and the systems they were played on, then it lead me toa job I love, then it lead me to friends I never thought I could have. TRON made a better life for me. I don't care what anyone else thinks, it was an important film to me, and others like me. I know many people with the same types of stories related to the film. It will always be my favorite movie. If you want to take look at what I am putting out on the web, please go here: home.earthlink.net/~tronshrine / If you go to my galleries, look in the folders for my Photogrpahy Studio and you'll find my headshot of Cindy Morgan taken last year. She's stil looking hot! Dave (aka DaveTRON)
Blind Spot: The most important equation you left out...
by Nosferatu Jones
Mar 23rd, 2007
11:40:51 PM
...did TRON get you laid???
Why TRON is great, despite its shortcomings...
by Calico Pete
Mar 24th, 2007
12:46:32 AM
I saw TRON a couple of years ago at the Museum of Modern Art in San Francisco. Steven Lisberger was there to discuss it afterwards and he referred to the movie as an experimental film. He's absolutely right. There has been NO movie BEFORE or SINCE that has looked like TRON. None. It is a singular vision and a great success in bringing something new to the palette. The way it looks is unique. How many movies can that be said about? Very very few. The prequels? No. Rehash. LOTR? No, D&D. The Matrix, Spider-Man, ? Yeah, other movies have had their own unique visual signatures (Blade Runner, Star Wars, 2001, ), but TRON was so its own thing, it was not copied, it was so out there it *couldn't* be copied. Over the decades it has influenced filmmakers, and video-game designers, but it remains the one and only TRONiest movie ever. TRON was such a daring experiment that nothing has matched its visual leap since (with the possible exception of Lawnmower Man).

Disney execs had NO idea what they had at the time. They thought they were getting their version of Star Wars. They had to put their faith in this young guy (Lisberger was 29) and cross their fingers that even though they had no idea what the hell he was doing, that he did. I had not heard of TRON until one day I saw a clip of it on TV (I lived outside the US) on some talk-show. I was *stunned*. (I was also just 11 years old, but already a budding aesthetic snob :) Now, as a cynical 30-something, I am STILL impressed by the movie. It achieves a look so removed from our reality and so different from what we've seen elsewhere... it hasn't been repeated, not by Sin City, not by 300, not by Hero, not by any other of the great many visually beautiful films since.


I worked at Disney for a while btw, several years ago, on an unofficial project designed to bring TRON back to the theme-parks. There was a lot VR R&D being done for this purpose. Alas, it didn't happen, but it's further proof there are people out there who were touched by this little experiment back in 1982.

BTW DaveTRON... great photos! I look forward to all the new material. BTW, where can I get a TRON bobblehead? :)
It was a big deal in my
by C_wizard
Mar 24th, 2007
12:57:54 AM
It was a big deal in my kid-dom, I loved the disc weapon throwing and would bean my brother with a frisbee as Tron. I had Sark and Tron in my action figure collection, and they saw heavy use. But I bought the DVD a year ago and it just couldn't make me happy. I love the ideas and images but it seems to not come together right (sort of in the same way Episode I didn't) The music gets stuck in my head sometimes.
emeraldboy & 1982's Spider-Man
by Calico Pete
Mar 24th, 2007
01:07:02 AM
You had Hammond's Spider-Man on the bigscreen too? Heh. We had that at the drive-in (in Israel). It was only during the internet days that I learned that flick was a bastardized TV-movie. Still, cool enough at the time!
More Tron Games
by PBoy
Mar 24th, 2007
02:29:54 AM
Since I can't read more that 4 or 6 posts at a time and we are clearly way beyond that I have no idea if this has been brought up yet. Did anyone play that cool 3D Tron disk game? It was 2 player and very cool and you had to stand in a booth to play. They had a bunch of Tron stuff at the old Tomorrowland arcade in Disneyland. I have fond memories of hanging out at the ol' Starcade with a pocket full of tokens. Oh, and in the other Tron game, to get past the Light Cycles I employed the question mark technique and to easily defeat the tanks, just make your way to the center portal and fire away and enter when an enemy gets to close and repeat. That works for the first 6 levels at least. And It was a good year for movies. I am the same age as the big red one and remember, with great detail, seeing those films and never being the same. The only difference is that I was skinny and had lots of girlfriends. Not fat with friends that were girls.
Tailhook
by kwisatzhaderach
Mar 24th, 2007
09:00:51 AM
Did you fall this morning and bump your head?
Ah STARLOG
by Evil Chicken
Mar 24th, 2007
09:36:05 AM
Good times… Good times. One of the greatest magazines of ALL time. It really was the only connection to the geek universe at the time. What a wonderful connection it was. BTW I’m really diggin’ the “25 Years Ago” segment. Good times… Good times.
Don't forget Cinefantastique
by CarmillaVonDoom
Mar 24th, 2007
11:18:38 AM
Even Fangoria. Those publications were lifelines.
this talkback sucks...
by Colonel Kane
Mar 24th, 2007
09:36:23 PM
time to visit castingcouchteens.com, pull some root (a/k/a the "sleeping pill") and pass out....
Nosferatu Jones: The answer to the equation is...
by Blind Spot
Mar 24th, 2007
11:22:47 PM
I didn't expect TRON to get me laid. I had other things in my life that took care of that other equation. I have had a nice life with TRON and women in it, and I don't feel the need to try to belittle people on public forums to make myself feel better. Good luck to you in your life.
Calico Pete: Please get in touch...
by Blind Spot
Mar 24th, 2007
11:26:59 PM
I'd love to talk to you about this project you worked on. I can also tell you how to have your own bobble head made. My lovely wife had that made for my birthday a few years ago. All it took was a photo of me and two good shots of the front and back of the costume. I'm easy to find via my web site, so please get in touch. Dave
WHAT ABOUT GREASE-2 FUCKER!!
by WONKABAR
Mar 25th, 2007
06:34:43 AM
You know you loved that pre-Ladyhawke/Scarface- Michelle Pfeiffer -ass! "I want a cool-cool-cool rider"....
When is the writeup for...
by tailhook
Mar 25th, 2007
02:57:48 PM
The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas coming? Dolly Parton + Burt Reynolds equal can't miss 1982 glory.
1982 was a great year to masturbate!
by Orionsangels
Mar 25th, 2007
03:19:40 PM
I think that says it all.
2001?
by BrandonGK
Mar 25th, 2007
06:19:13 PM
Riddle me this Tailhook, I can understand 89 and possibly 99 (though I seriously doubt people will be remembering stuff like The Matrix or The Blair Witch Project, or Pitch Black 25 years later like they will Blade Runner, ET, or yes Tron) but how the hell is 2001 a great year for genre pictures? Or a better year than '82? What even came out that year of note other than Marky Mark and the Monkey Bunch and Final Fantasy: Stupid Hippie Crap?
TRON-FRISBEES!!!
by WONKABAR
Mar 25th, 2007
10:19:18 PM
Why didn't they ever make 'em huh?
Blind Spot: Believe it or not...
by Nosferatu Jones
Mar 25th, 2007
10:54:29 PM
...I wasn't belittling you. It was just a tongue-in-cheek goof question, in keeping with the spirit with every single TalkBack here at AICN. Don't take it so seriously. (Plus, it was still a funny question.)
Wonkabar: regarding the Tron Frisbees...
by Mogwai Democracy
Mar 26th, 2007
04:07:27 PM
Yeah, I'm with you. That was a marketing opportunity missed right there. I had to make my own. I bought a translucent blue frisbee and cut out the rings from a white piece of paper and glued them on! very low tech.
'82 was good but '89 was better
by Boneyard
Mar 27th, 2007
11:00:21 AM
Batman Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Ghost Busters II Back to the Future II Lethal Weapon II Tremors Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure Adventures of Baron Munchausen even family films like Parenthood and the Little Mermaid and date movies like Heathers and When Harry Met Sally were good.
BrandonGK - 2001
by tailhook
Mar 27th, 2007
03:42:41 PM
You are seriously kidding right? What came out that year? Lets start with the majors. Fellowship of the Ring, Harry Potter, Shrek, Oceans Eleven. Not sequels.. the starting films with OE technically being a remake. This isn't like getting the 3rd spiderman film or the 3rd pirates film in 2007. After those.. you also have Monsters, Inc., Fast and the Furious, Tomb Raider, AI, the 3rd Jurassic Park film, Spirited Away if you were in to anime, The Others, and Training Day. Thats 12 different genre movies and while some were hit and miss in that list... if you can't appreciate having 4 major genre franchises all start in the same year along with the plethora of other content then I just don't know what you actually would use to evaluate certain years. I left some off of there but you get my point. You can make the case for lots of years.. and how well you remember that year usually comes back to the age you were at when you saw the movies then. For this site.. the 30-35 year old set(i'm 33 myself) remembers 1982 as being a good year. Great. Glad to hear it.. but actually have perspective and realize you let you are trying to push your subjective views on to everyone else.
Harry is right on...
by Damer1
Mar 27th, 2007
08:54:20 PM
I'm same age as Harry and despite his infamous reviews he gets the 80s. It was a different time.
What about...
by Damer1
Mar 27th, 2007
09:59:42 PM
Conan and Tootsie?
I love Tron
by bender7
Apr 10th, 2007
08:09:50 AM
But I didn't see it when it was released in cinemas, I was too young at that point. When I did see it for the first time I didn't really like it. I think I was still too young for it. I thought it looked cool, but I just didn't seem to get the story. It is one of those movies that has been around a lot in my childhood though, and there was defintely a point where I thought it was the coolest movie in history. I have to admit that The Last Starfighter does have a softer space in my heart though
Is Big Red a child?
by Trazadone
Apr 10th, 2007
12:03:56 PM
"I like Tron. The movie was good and it made me like to play video games because Tron is cool."
Harry Knowles Is Not a Trained Journalist
by kevinwillis.net
Apr 19th, 2007
11:59:14 AM
And I'll bet good money he wasn't an English major. That being said, how fucking cool is it (to me, and nobody else), that this article about Tron, one my Top Ten Favorite Movies of All Time, and for the reasons discussed, came out on March 22nd. My birthday. Well, cool to me, completely irrelevant to everybody else. Tron rocked. And will rock. Forever. Now, if only we could get a look-back review of the best film ever made: 1980s Flash Gordon.
I thank the cylon gods everyday....
by RokurGepta
Apr 26th, 2007
05:47:07 PM
That Tron 2.0 hasn't been made yet. I remember hearing about it years back and being extremely excited, but then the project fell through, and all that came out of it was an extremely lame video game. I hated the Tron 2.0 video game, story was weak, graphics didn't blow my mind, game play sucked, for christ's sake how can you make a sequel to Tron without enforcers? and Make Tron Evil!!! that's WEAK SAUCE gentlemen. The Original Tron movie is in my top 3 movies of my childhood with Time Bandits, and Clash of the Titans right beside it. Speaking of Clash of the Titans, I heard they are re-imagining it....*sigh* I have a feeling I'll be crying and saying "Oh happy dagger" after I see the film and right before offing myself. That is unless Chris Nolan makes it! oooh How cool would it be to have Chris Nolan working with Tim Minear make a sequel to Tron with Nathan Fillion starring!!! Egadz I'm a Frakin Fanboy, and proud of it! Being a Fanboy is the heart of me, lolz

peace

remember the Disnyland ride?
by RokurGepta
Apr 26th, 2007
08:10:22 PM
with stuff from the movie Tron projected around you? Does that ride still exist?
"Oh, my user"
by Stuntcock Mike
May 9th, 2007
10:23:42 AM
So gay.
TRON CAME OUT WHEN ................... I WAS IN COLLEGE
by Red Dawn Don
May 10th, 2007
03:16:08 AM
I was a COMPUTER SCIENCE major back then. I thought this movie would help me with my programming classes. I went to see it and it did not help. ***** Same reason I bought that new ADAM computer. Boy was I dumb and desperate to succeed back then. ***** SIDEBAR: Harry number these comments.
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by FrodoFraggins
Jun 3rd, 2007
03:13:50 AM
test part 2 dammit
by FrodoFraggins
Jun 3rd, 2007
03:19:08 AM
line 1.
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I guess the test worked
by Orcus
Jun 4th, 2007
08:58:28 AM
:)
I LOVE TRON
by Autodidact
Dec 18th, 2007
08:27:26 AM
I love Tron. I bought the 2-disc special edition back when it came out in 2001. Since then I watch it about once per year. The surround mix on that disc is fucking awesome. I agree with the guy above who said that TRON is one of the most unique pieces of filmed art. Nothing else looks like it and no other movie has ever used the same kind of painstaking process. TRON is a fully animated movie that happens to use photgraphs for the character cels. They handled each frame in the film manually, between nine and fourteen times, doing various masks and backlight passes to create the inner electric glow that infuses everything in the computer world. I disagree with those who are calling it a dumb movie. It's very well costructed and contains a lot of cool ideas. I think it's total class.
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