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BATTLESTAR GALACTICA’s 4th Season Grows From 13 to 22 Episodes!! And The Straight-To-DVD Movie Is Coming This Fall!!

Wow by mrfan	Mar 21st, 2007 08:17:20 PM
13 to 22.
I really like this show. by mrfan	Mar 21st, 2007 08:19:55 PM
I had no problem with only 13 episodes planned for season four. Maybe with 22 episodes they can get questions answered.
THANK THE GODS! by DS9Sisko	Mar 21st, 2007 08:20:45 PM
In a strange way, I actually hope this is the final season (and it likely is the last). A full season would be a great way to wind up this remarkable achievement, fanboy whining about this and that be damned.
Frak Yah! by CaptainWalker	Mar 21st, 2007 08:28:29 PM
Have you ever seen some one jump BACK from the shark? Well Sundays episode proved that to be possible. They were coasting through most of this season, and while always entertaining, it wasn't the battlestar we grew to know and worship. But I this last episode was the show I've been creaming myself for.
Sweet! by pax256	Mar 21st, 2007 08:34:43 PM
I wanted that and its a good indication a 5th season is in the offing. Seems there has been very little change in overall ratings. Oh and a couple more dvd flicks...
Great News by cryptmagic	Mar 21st, 2007 08:44:18 PM
Great news, I am so happy. The last three episodes have been great.
YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH Baby! by covenant	Mar 21st, 2007 08:47:27 PM
This made my frakkin' day! Of course, they could be expanding the number of episodes in order to allow Moore and Co. to finish properly; i.e. no plans for a 5th season. Let's hope ratings improve and we see another season. SO SAY WE ALL!
Dunno about next seson but this one... by Christopher3	Mar 21st, 2007 08:48:16 PM
Would have been better with only 13 episodes. There was A LOT of filler in the second half of this season.
Stand by FTL!!! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 21st, 2007 08:48:32 PM
Do you hear that?! Frakkin'-a right you do!!! Great news. Encouraging news even. I hope another 22 episode season stays focused. If they plan for it to be the final season, so much the better - it makes even more sense. And I can't wait for the season 3 finale. So say we all, motherscratchers. JUMP!
Means MORE... by chromedome	Mar 21st, 2007 08:53:30 PM
...Grace Park That is enough to warrant joy over this news! The rest is Fringe Benefits. Seriously, though, this is good news-- was a little twitchy about waiting until 08 for 13 episodes. Now we got a movie in the fall, and a full set of episodes for potentially the series-concluding season.
FRACK YEAH! x infinity... by Pennsy	Mar 21st, 2007 08:54:19 PM
Hoo, baby. :D :D
I can't read talkbacks anymore until next week ... by Shan	Mar 21st, 2007 08:55:15 PM
Somehow for once I've been able to avoid absolute spoilers, in this case, as to the identity of The Final Five - though I have my high index of suspicion. I have to say that the finale coming up has managed to do something the show hasn't quite managed for me since the end of Season 1, I am desperate to see the final episode of Season 3. I hope they keep it up. This could be more good news. Hopefully they'll make it to Season 5 and/or end it on their own terms/pace.
BSG's one-offs = still better than 90% of other series by Pennsy	Mar 21st, 2007 08:55:40 PM
episodes.
Great Great Great by SanityKaos	Mar 21st, 2007 08:58:53 PM
SciFi must realise that this is a show that may very well be more popular years and years after it's end...Now SciFi needs to grow an even bigger brain and aquire the rights to "Firefly" and bring it to the network (For the record I can't stand "Firefly", but everyone else seemed to like it) The ratings would skyrocket....Back to Galactica...Can't wait for the movie...One of the things I miss about the miniseries was that it was much longer than 45 minutes
Shan, word. by Pennsy	Mar 21st, 2007 09:03:25 PM
I'm in the same boat. No offence to Herc, but I'm temporarily breaking my AICN BSG talkback boycott. I'll wait until Monday to see everything that was written beforehand. :)
I hoipe they use their summer well by jccalhoun	Mar 21st, 2007 09:07:06 PM
I hope that Moore takes some time to really look at what worked and what didn't this season. There have been some great episodes and some horrible ones. As much as I hate to see people lose jobs, maybe some heads need to roll to get things straightened out.
So that will be the last season then?... by DanielKurland	Mar 21st, 2007 09:08:30 PM
Sci-Fi stated about a month ago that if the order is extended from 13 to 22 it will be for them to wrap up the entire series.
Great News Unless... by bobbyjoe	Mar 21st, 2007 09:08:55 PM
This is great news unless Michael Ausiello over at TVGuide.com is correct reporting a week or so ago on behind the scenes goings-on at Sci Fi that if the show was picked up for more episodes past 13, then those back 9 would be the final episodes of the series. Hope that's not true. (Sci Fi has always been sneaky about advertising "great" news, like cheering that "Farscape" was renewed for two more seasons (and then later claiming those "two" seasons were 11 episodes apiece, unlike every other season of "Farscape" which had 22).) Be optimistic, but watch your back.
Hell, Yes!!! by Tai_Pan	Mar 21st, 2007 09:10:20 PM
Suck it, haters.
OH THANK THE GODS... by Frank Black	Mar 21st, 2007 09:13:30 PM
My wife and I were so bummed! This show is so addictive! SciFi shouldn't care if anyone watches it. In fact, don't air it and just release it the seasons straight to DVD. The show should have 5 full seasons.
HUZZAH! by FakePlasticGuava	Mar 21st, 2007 09:13:44 PM
see subject.
hearing this news and seeing 300 all in same night... by RaveX	Mar 21st, 2007 09:25:39 PM
...makes me a happy man. oh, and about all the bitching about filler episodes that's about to start (or has it started already? haven't read current talkback yet.), I have only 1 thing to say: shut the frack up!
so it won't be as tight as it may have been, but... by Amy Chasing	Mar 21st, 2007 09:43:20 PM
I still let out a "WOOOHOOO!!!" when I read this. And I'm not usually one for multiple punctuation when I talk so that's saying something. Yes, BSG is the flagship sci-fi show on TV at the moment. No other show really comes close. Stargate, Doctor Who, Torchwood - they're alright (sometimes down right funny , and Doctor Who does have its moments of that's-bloody-perfect) but there's nothing else on! I feel BSG somewhat lost its way over the course of season 3, but as long as the questions are answered in a credible fashion then I can chalk it up as "creative license". But this radio music on currently that some of the crew are hearing had better not be the only indicator that they're Cylons or something. A much more intricate and interesting explanation is required and deserved. I mean, I hear tunes in my head all the time, sometimes clear as any song I play on the stereo. That doesn't make me a toaster, just someone who really needs to get to more concerts.
Good news by NoHubris	Mar 21st, 2007 09:49:16 PM
With a fourth season, there is hope for a "Final Five" (5th season) for BSG.
Bad news by PVIII	Mar 21st, 2007 09:49:55 PM
cut those shitty episodes. and ex-buffy writers.
This could be bad news by DARTH VOODOO	Mar 21st, 2007 09:58:57 PM
With the ratings tanking these final 9 episodes may be used to wrap up the series. I hope not.
Old time by hatramroany	Mar 21st, 2007 10:02:36 PM
Please go back to Friday nights, PLEASE.
i'm cool with it... by Charlie Murphy	Mar 21st, 2007 10:08:16 PM
but if veronica doesn't get renewed, i will be pissed.
WHERE IS THE LARRY 'BUD' MELMAN TALKBACK? by Vicconius	Mar 21st, 2007 10:15:19 PM
A TV legend died you monkeys! Rest in peace, Calvert!
YES!! by veritasses	Mar 21st, 2007 10:15:37 PM
The world needs more BSG. I'm not too happy about having to wait until 2008 though.
22 episodes or 20? by agentf1	Mar 21st, 2007 10:15:48 PM
The last two seasons of Battlestar Galactica have been 20 episodes each (if you count the season 3 two hour premiere as 2 episodes which some people do and some people don't). Why would they make 22 for Season 4? If they announce 20, I'd say that makes more sense and there's still a good chance of a Season 5. If they do up the order from 13 to 22, I'd be VERY SUSPICIOUS like other people have said on this thread, that this would signify the end of the series. (Granted if the Direct to DVD does GANG BUSTERS they could still change their mind)
SO SAY WE ALL by Squashua	Mar 21st, 2007 10:26:27 PM
Adama is a Cylon.
it would have been better by punto	Mar 21st, 2007 10:42:23 PM
if they left it at 13 episodes, but gave them the budget for 22. then it'd be like cable, without so many shitty filler episodes. also a movie about pegasus means hot admiral chick (what was her name? it's all I remember about the pegasus). can't wait
20 regular episodes + 2 "episodes" for movie by TheSecondQuest	Mar 21st, 2007 10:46:58 PM
That 22 number includes the 2 hours/episodes for the DVD movie.
Woo! by GregoryHarbin	Mar 21st, 2007 10:50:48 PM
I actually cheered when I read this news.
OF COURSE!!! by closeencounter	Mar 21st, 2007 10:51:42 PM
No one can deny that this is one of the best TV shows of anytime, any channel, of any genre!!!! So Say We All!!!!!
Woo Hoo! by bb6634	Mar 21st, 2007 10:53:57 PM
Thank the Gods!
Best made-in-Vancouver show... by theseventhshore	Mar 21st, 2007 10:58:33 PM
...since the GOOD seasons of X-Files. You know it's true :P
Season 3 by Bob of the Shire	Mar 21st, 2007 11:14:43 PM
The first four episodes were amazing. Like "possibly the best episodes of any show ever" amazing. For the rest of the season though, the show has been on a decline, with the occasional spike in the quality, I think it hit rock bottom with the terrible mid-season finale. Last Sunday's episode was a return to form though and I am super pumped for the season finale. The show is getting back on track, so I'm all for Season 4. Here's hoping it rocks out with its cock out.
Eat me, Metalwater! by oisin5199	Mar 21st, 2007 11:23:37 PM
So say we all.
RE: Metalwater by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 21st, 2007 11:27:16 PM
Where did he go? Did he get banned?
do not speak his name by chromedome	Mar 21st, 2007 11:31:58 PM
or he will appear! jeez, i gotta teach you guys THAT? ;-)
chromey by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 21st, 2007 11:36:43 PM
Nah, he's not the one we should worry about appearing. Although the one I'm thinking of may no longer have the ability to do so. Heh. ;^)
This is great news! by My Ass Smells	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:06:39 AM
Fuck you haters of this season. It's been great!
Four Seasons by SanityKaos	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:11:39 AM
What if it ended after four seasons (finding Earth and all)...And then have it come back as a movie twice a year....The quality wouldn't be compromised and the budget would be much lower than a full series...Everyone's happy
I would never Fuck a Smelly ASS by WASPFAN	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:14:28 AM
The season really did suck ass
Am I the only one that remembers by slder78	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:16:49 AM
that they said if they were going to do more than 13 eps next season, it would be to WRAP UP the series? I'm not sure I like this.
Good news by ewokstew	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:22:55 AM
they're admittedly in a bit of a lull right now but that happens to all shows. Once they get their second wind it'll be even better than before. Watch.
im indifferent by Mr_X	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:46:01 AM
really this season as a whole has sucked. i love BSG really i do. the first season was virtually perfect. but this season dispite some excellent epsiodes ( yes epsiode 4 with the ftl atomsphere jump was probably the best scene ive ever seen in sci fi) was getting boring. way too many filler episodes that were just tiresome. I hope ron has noted what has worked and what hasnt and ramps it up for season 4. it needs to be done to keep the audience. make sure the scripts are perfect over this break, and please don't let caprica turn into craprica.
THE LOST ROOM by Mr_X	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:48:02 AM
and sci-fi if you really want a new series that people will watch... make the lost room into a series. it was brilliant!
Worst News I've Heard All Day by Professor Krapp	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:32:22 AM
And to put that in perspective, my father died this morning.
Yeah I heard that if the order got expanded by Novaman5000	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:54:27 AM
It would mean the end of the series, and those new 9 eps would be used to wrap everything up. It's kind of bittersweet, but I'd prefer them end the series on a high note than just crap out in a few years.
THIS SUCKS by arrangedletters	Mar 22nd, 2007 02:01:50 AM
Seriously now we get more episodes like Helo and the Mad Surgeon, or Black Market, or Chief and the Coal Miners. Don't do these crappy filler episodes anymore.
Who cares if it's the last season? by King Sweyn Forkbeard	Mar 22nd, 2007 02:45:17 AM
Why not end things on a high rather than drag it out for the sake of doing so? Learn from us Limeys. Better to have just four seasons of top, top quality than four seasons of quality and another two or three of shit to drag them down.
Word has it that Season 4 will now be BSG last. by The Outlander	Mar 22nd, 2007 02:59:56 AM
I've heard from two sources that a 22 episode pickup would mean that Sci-Fi has chosen to finish of the series. The extra nine episodes will be used to conclude the series.
Let us not forget what too many eps did for Season2 by Maniaq	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:02:35 AM
FILLER IS A SERIES KILLER!
More than likely there will be a 5th season... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:10:45 AM
Why? Because after Season 4, the show will have 79 episode hours (counting the miniseries as 4 episodes). They will then need 21 more episode to have 100 episodes. 100 is the magic number for syndication. So I'm betting they will lurch towards a 5th season in order to wrap things up into a neat, tidy syndication package.
Motherfucking YES! by Darth_Gonz	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:21:34 AM
Thano you, thank you, thank you, Sci-Fi Channel!
last series? by ian216a	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:40:09 AM
I was thinking along the lines of Prof.Pop-Cult as well. Wondering if Sci-Fi were going for the big 100. Makes sense as they own the show as I'm sure it will be a money-spinner on syndication for years. Having said that, if what everyone thinks is going to happen on Sunday happens on Sunday, how much of the story is left to tell? Now I have to disagree (amiably) with what seems to be the consensus above, that the series has problems with the filler episodes. I've always found them worthwhile character pieces that help to make the audience really care about what happens when the shit actually does go down, one of the shows strengths. But different strokes I suppose. Just happy to have confirmation of any extra episodes than had been previously announced. 'Nuff said.
Lick my balls you GINO cunts ! by Dude_gimme_tabs	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:42:59 AM
Hooorah !
Fan-frakkin'-tastic! by Wldmk	Mar 22nd, 2007 04:04:58 AM
Even if it'll be the last season of the show, good for there to be a few more episodes and better to go out while on top rather than drag beyond tolerance, at the expense of fans and all involved, quality-wise. So say we all, and the constant haters, like with any other show, are more than welcome to tune the frak out to something else, whatever it may be...
isn't this the Sci-Fi channels biggest rated show? by newc0253	Mar 22nd, 2007 04:49:44 AM
i live in the UK where the Sci Fi channel is a pale imitation of its US cousin: it gets Heroes but BSG is run on Sky. i have a hard time believing that the ratings for this show are so bad that they'd can it after 4 seasons. what's the longest running show on the US Sci Fi channel anyway?
newc0253 by raw_bean	Mar 22nd, 2007 05:25:50 AM
They dumped Farscape while it was their highest rated show. Picking up Stargate was gonna be cheaper for them, with the slightly higher ratings. So after years of boasting about how great the first ever SciFi funded original programme was, they unceremoniously dumped it in the gutter, wrangling their way out of the two season order they'd put in a season previous, and according to one talkbacker up above (I wasn't aware of this one) tried to claim the 22 episodes of season 4 were two 11 episode seasons. Be great to see the Pegasus and foxy Michelle Forbes as Admiral Cain again in the autumn. And if a single, 22 episode season means they can trim the filler and build up to a groovy finale I'll forgive them for the latter half of season 3 and be very happy. ian216a, I don't have a problem with the occasional character-based episode and a brief break from the main plot, but they really need to spread stuff like that around. Seriously, since the Eye of Jupiter stuff (that wasn't overly spectacular anyway), how long did we go without ANYthing of note happening, or even seeing any Cylons (bar the skin-jobs that live on Galactica, or in peoples heads)?
Since they'll have plenty of filler episodes now by Itchy	Mar 22nd, 2007 05:39:26 AM
how about a few that explore that obvious and intense sexual tension between Callie and Boomer ? Better than another Black Market.
Long wait by Dazzler69	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:03:33 AM
No season 4 til next year now? That sucks.
Long Wait by NoHubris	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:47:53 AM
Agreed. The long wait is an issue and certainly problematic from a fan perspective (sponsor too, possibly). Herc reported before that David Eick is working on BIONIC WOMAN for NBC so that could be one reason. If so, TPTB should just let RD Moore run with it and have something on the air by the fall.
Mr_X : FTL Atmo jump by shermanium65	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:49:38 AM
"...probably the best scene ive ever seen in sci fi" I totally agree! Mind-bogglingly amazing. I describe it to people as "by far the coolest thing I've ever seen anywhere, in film or TV or anywhere else"
Hrm... by Childe Roland	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:59:58 AM
...not sure if I can take this as good news. I was actually looking forward to a leaner, more focused season. Seemed like the show had grown a bit of fat it could've stood to trim. Guess I'll wait and see, though.
Great news but about those ex-Buffy Writers by Silver_Joo	Mar 22nd, 2007 08:53:56 AM
They have upset the balance of Galactica this season, and pretty much buried 24. They should stick to... Buffy. Joss has a comic they can all go write -- leave our beloved shows alone!
Awesome by ManosTHOF	Mar 22nd, 2007 09:08:52 AM
So say we all.
CHAAAA!! by onyh007	Mar 22nd, 2007 09:32:16 AM
Cool!
Just Keep The Quality high is each of the 22 Episodes by DarfurOnTheRocks	Mar 22nd, 2007 09:37:22 AM
That is my hope.
Stupid Fuckin' Move by _Maltheus_	Mar 22nd, 2007 09:50:37 AM
The 13 episode run is the only thing that gave me hope for next season. This show simply cannot handle a 22 ep run as much as we would like it. Walk before you can run.
Starbuck should be on some planet shooting rabbits by Knobules	Mar 22nd, 2007 09:57:35 AM
Bang bang. Spaghettios!
Can't Wait by landocolt45	Mar 22nd, 2007 10:10:17 AM
I wanna see Admiral Caine kill some bitches!!!!
I'll be happy if the episodes are good and the show... by beastie	Mar 22nd, 2007 10:49:17 AM
... gets to end properly. Whether it needs 1 more season or 8 more seasons, I want it to wrap up well. If the best way to do that is end with Season 4, so be it. But if the creators of the show need more seasons, then I want mores seasons too.
"This show simply cannot handle a 22 ep run"? by newc0253	Mar 22nd, 2007 10:55:08 AM
walk before you can run? the show's been on air now for 3 seasons, 2 of which were successful 20 episode runs. if it can't handle a 22 episode run now, when can it? on its tenth anniversary?? like Lost, Galactica is one of those shows that's so good that anytime you have a run of episodes that are less than 5 stars, every fat nerd sitting in his mom's basement starts writing angry posts about the show's decline.
Presumbably it will get a fifth season because... by David Frames	Mar 22nd, 2007 11:01:45 AM
They'll want to break the 100 episode barrier to guarantee a lifetime in syndication, er, surely? Isn't that the arbitary limit these days? Great news though - this is the best sci-fi show in years.
Buffy writers by oisin5199	Mar 22nd, 2007 11:10:08 AM
Yeah, that ONE Buffy writer (Jane Espenson), who co-wrote TWO episodes, one of which was one of the best this season. Yeah, they sure upset that balance, Silver Joo. Sheesh, you sound like Kai. Get your facts straight.
Season 3 aka when you hire ex-Buffy & ex-Voyager hacks by performingmonkey	Mar 22nd, 2007 11:17:53 AM
Oh, and Whedon can go suck a fuck. So can Kevin Smith, the cunt.
Eat me Metalwater! by Billyeveryteen	Mar 22nd, 2007 11:41:55 AM
So say we all!!
Black Market by Tai_Pan	Mar 22nd, 2007 12:24:27 PM
was a great episode. I dunno why it gets so much hate.
What's wong Oisin? Stwarved fwor attention? by Kai_Mah'gra	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:02:59 PM
.....baby need a bottle? Polly wanna cracker? Nice to see you can't go more than half a post these days without giving me a shout-out or crying for your pacifier. So here goes; it must really burn you to know that the Espenson episodes basically anchored the worst stretch of this Season - the filler-schmiller gunk - while being the worst episodes of the entire Series run so far, in and of themselves, ( wait, did Espenson also write the Black Market episode? that episode stunk Whedonese all over with it's unbridled suckage. If not then, her episodes rank right up there along with it) Anyway, I'm sure you get the point. Isn't it always so refreshing when your point of view is echoed by others? Take the SupesReturns-bashing going on in the Singer-Cruise talkback and the Pirates talkback; and I'm not even involved in those ones. Good times, Good times.
I don't think you need 100 episodes anymore by jccalhoun	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:03:23 PM
Farscape was syndicated for a while and it only had 89. I would bet that with dvds they wouldn't bother with syndication any way. SciFi can always rerun it into the ground if they want.
The first season was a half season... by _Maltheus_	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:08:10 PM
...and that was everybody's favorite. The second season had a lot of crap in it's second half. This third season has proven they've simply run out of ideas. I don't think it'll ever be able to handle a full run. When it's good, it's still good but most of this season has sucked real bad. It was a toss up between BSG and Lost for the winner for worst declining show. But the last two Lost's have been really good, leaving BSG with what, "Exodus II" and a small smattering or decent scenes spread among the rest? The show will not be renewed beyond this next season if they go with the full 22. It no longer has any punch anymore. Hell, Admr. Adama and Baltar are the only characters worth watching ever since they hit the reset button on Tigh.
WOO HOO by Smashing	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:12:17 PM
This just cheered my miserable day right up.
BSG whiners are as feckless & stupid as Lost whiners: by newc0253	Mar 22nd, 2007 01:33:17 PM
any episode that doesn't contain a major plot development and they instantly complain: "it's run out of ideas", "boring", "filler-schmiller gunk", etc. Look, if you hate character-development so much, why don't you follow a show that's more your level, like, say, Dancing with Stars? i don't watch it but - from what i understand - every week there's always some big development every week. exciting, huh?
BSG: long term quality show by DarfurOnTheRocks	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:53:04 PM
As evidenced by Lost and other shows, it is one thing to have a great first season, but the true challenge is to string together solid 2nd and 3rd seasons. BSG, for all its perceived faults has done that. I look forward to S4.
I told you by EdRyder	Mar 22nd, 2007 03:54:22 PM
Its good to be the king
What's wrong with "Black Market?" by Tai_Pan	Mar 22nd, 2007 04:24:38 PM
I really don't get. That's one of my favorite episodes. I thought the worst of the run was "The Woman King," with "The Farm" and "A Day in the Life" being close seconds.
People still watch LOST? by la_sith	Mar 22nd, 2007 04:41:59 PM
People still watch LOST?
Character Development would be great... by _Maltheus_	Mar 22nd, 2007 05:14:48 PM
...if that's actually what we've been given. But it isn't. Not anything good anyway. The show jumps around, characters react, but nothing really changes. And Starbuck dying doesn't count as change, cause that was the shittiest episode of the series. Moore pulled a Jadzia Dax on her ass, and we all know that was the most shameful momement of DS9's run. The love triangle crap was hated by all. Tigh was developed real nicely at first. Thought something great was gonna happen there, but no. He went off, stewed for a bit, then Adama gave him his job back cause he was lonely for his only friend. You people need to come up with a new name for use "haters." Cause you "lovers" are the only ones spewing hate here for anyone who doesn't agree with you. Parents don't hate their children for not letting them do whatever the fuck they want. They care and want the best for them. Criticism is not hate. Intolerance is, and that seems to be the domain of the lovers.
Maltheus by NudeandAroused	Mar 22nd, 2007 05:22:00 PM
Your points are taken to a point. I think "Maelstorm" was one of thebetter shows of the series. It explains a lot of her reactions and actions when it comes to life and death. Adam's only friend on the show is Tigh. So his support of Tigh makes sense. I will agree with you, the first five odf season 3 certainly gave the impression that they were going somewhere with Tigh. They did not until last Sunday. The love triangle was silly, you are right. Hopefully that will not come up again. I think that a 13 epsiode season would be very strong for this show. I don't mind 22, I think the 13 "greatest hits" of the 22, would work better.
Excellent, excellent news. by Asaraiel	Mar 22nd, 2007 05:55:12 PM
Excellent, excellent news.
CHUD has some interesting tidbits here... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 22nd, 2007 06:24:47 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2ft8sz So unds good.
"Sounds good." by Mr. Nice Gaius	Mar 22nd, 2007 06:25:35 PM
I hate that formatting glitch.
... and then 12 episodes for season 5 to wrap it up. by riskebiz	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:07:53 PM
Ron Moore has said on his podcasts that he needs 5 seasons to tell the story. That would best. This is good news that it 12 to 22 episodes for season 4. I hope they haven't given Moore an edict to wrap it up in 4 by going going to 22 episodes. Season 5 is the max and he should get it to tell his story.
Stargate always got less than BSG's current ratings? by riskebiz	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:19:17 PM
Heck, and Stargate was on for 10 friggin' seasons for some unknown reason. Crap show and was the longest running show on Sci-Fi.
"Criticism is not hate" by newc0253	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:31:31 PM
yeah, but bored whining isn't criticism, at least not intelligent criticism. c.f. the apparent hate for episodes like 'black market' which actually tell you something interesting about apollo's background. BSG whiners are so pathetically impatient for action and plot development, it's difficult to avoid the conclusion that they're off their ritalin. every show has some episodes that are stronger than others, but any time BSG deviates even the slightest from fanboy expectations, or does something even a little different, there's a shitstorm of protests about how the show is 'drifting'. not every BSG episode is flawless, and some are more flawed than others, but to listen to half the whiners on these talkbacks, you'd think that the writers had made greedo shoot first. the "criticisms" are in such broad terms (e.g. "most of season 3 sucked") that it's impossible to take them seriously. it's one thing to tolerate sincere criticism, another to tolerate patent fucking stupidity...
Season 3 is the Best by frodomelad	Mar 22nd, 2007 07:45:15 PM
Gotta Love that "Eye of Jupiter". Really showed where the show is going? Not really a space battle show, but a show about spirituality and eventually we will discover -- time travel.
so now we'll get 18 filler episodes instead of 9 by Serious Black	Mar 22nd, 2007 08:17:53 PM
When this show moves the story along it's great. But they are already struggling to put together 13 episodes. Most episodes that I've seen this season have nothing to do with anything. Did I really need to see the episode where workers go on strike? no. Did I need to see the religious fanatics with the monkeypox or whatever the hell they had. No. 18 more episodes of crap like that and they will have lost me for good.
"Filler Episodes" are what make good SciFi by Itchy	Mar 22nd, 2007 08:52:05 PM
Great. ST:TNG's "filler" episodes were some of the best - by far. The filler gives you a chance to develop characters, and establish what "life" on board the ship is like. The problem with Black Market wasn't that it was filler, it was that it was BAD filler. It provided a chance to develop Lee as a character, but all it did was show a side of Lee that is totally contrary to the whiny, pathetic, deceptive piece of crap he clearly is. Plus it just wasn't cool to make the only black dude in the fleet a hard-ass crime boss that got whacked inside of 60 minutes.
Oh Sure, Blame the Buffy Writers by Professor Krapp	Mar 22nd, 2007 11:02:42 PM
When this show has been a steaming corn-studded piece of shit for a long time.
Frak Me! Still The Best Show On Television! by Real Deal	Mar 22nd, 2007 11:12:06 PM
This is wonderful news! I really don't care what the moron whinners have to say about it!
Did i remember this correctly..... by delatao	Mar 23rd, 2007 12:04:34 AM
wasn't there some sort of announcement about the dvd movie heralding the return of a favorite character? so the movies all about the return of starbuck right? seems like everybody stopped mentioning that or did i make it up in my head?
Pennsy by Shan	Mar 23rd, 2007 04:00:54 AM
Yes, it's just too dicey looking at anything now. I didn't read the comments here, just posted (like I'm doing now). Once in a totally unrelated talkback, someone mentioned a major LOST character bought it before I saw the episode. Then I got bored with the show and ended up never seeing that episode to this day but my point still stands. I watched the episode preview on the official site and at the end that voice said "It's true, we're Cylons" and I thought *@$!, that's [character x] but the more I listed to it, the more I thought there's a chance it was [character y]. I then stopped listing because I realised I was happy not to have certainty again until I see the episode.
OK, well to clarify by Shan	Mar 23rd, 2007 04:02:59 AM
OK, well obviously, I read your post which you put my name in the subject line.
hope its last season by 1st and only	Mar 23rd, 2007 05:58:38 AM
its rare you get a sci fi show end on its own terms.i love this show but fuck viewing figures(even if season 4 goes thru the roof)end properly and with dignity.
Tigh by WASPFAN	Mar 23rd, 2007 06:55:01 AM
Do you really think he would have been so stupid as to say what he did in court? They completely stole that from the nicholson/cruise move a few good men.... Tigh used to come off much smarter than they have made him -- a really stupid drunk.... Also Admama and Rosalyn seem different to me as well, almost preaching a dictatorship - they are not the same as they once were either and I feel they are loosing the goodness in their char -- Season 1 was decent - 2 was better I felt even though there were filler episodes - and 3 was horseshit -- they find the eye of jupiter and it so happens the planet blows up -- something that would happen once in 5 billion years -- the probababilty of that is so common --
This is great fraking news!!!! by Currencyboy	Mar 23rd, 2007 06:58:35 AM
So say we all!
Wow, I come back to the states... by Abin Sur	Mar 23rd, 2007 07:09:44 AM
...and I get this outstanding news! Life is good. Now if Directv will hurry the frak up and turn on their new satellite I might get to see next season in high-def!
Oh, and what's Metalwater's new screen name? by Abin Sur	Mar 23rd, 2007 07:10:45 AM
Haven't seen him since we heard about the initial 13-ep order...come out and play!
Michelle Forbes by jtp8000	Mar 23rd, 2007 09:56:01 AM
Hope they have her signed up as Cain and not some bimbo. But the way she drops out of award winning shows they might have a problem getting her back
from Matt Roush of 'TV Guide' by oisin5199	Mar 23rd, 2007 12:22:41 PM
"the episode with the labor strike was first-rate Galactica, with strong political and social observations about the hard life aboard this fleet." Thanks, Jane Espenson!
Apollo As the Moral Compass by DarfurOnTheRocks	Mar 23rd, 2007 12:49:27 PM
I understand that he broke things off with his pregnant GF. However, throughout the show, it is he, not Roslin, or Adama, that seems to be the moral center amongst the major players. Roslin and Adama essentially want to hold a kangaroo court thinking that no one will be the wiser. Lee is challenging this sentiment by taking the fight to them. Cancer or not, Roslin seems to oscillate between democracy and tyranny whenever it suits her. And I think that more characters are seeing that in her. Heck, just look at Helo's face after learning that Roslin used Hera and then sought to hid her existence. Classic moment...
Waspfan by Tai_Pan	Mar 23rd, 2007 02:25:35 PM
Tigh was drunk, that's why he was saying things that he would not have otherwise admitted to.
Frak yeah! by Ellipsian	Mar 23rd, 2007 03:17:54 PM
I refuse to read any comments since I haven't seen the last two episodes yet, but it's great news all around.
delatao by ManosTHOF	Mar 23rd, 2007 06:55:06 PM
The movie is about Admiral Cain and the Pegasus, a prequel Pearl Harbour attack-like scenario.
Helo, not Apollo, is the moral compass... by Epsilon	Mar 23rd, 2007 07:28:16 PM
Come on, Helo stayed on Caprica so another person could get aboard the rescue raptor after the cylons attacked. He was the one who has championed the cause of "good" cylons, and how it would be wrong to wipe them out completely. He's the one who stuck up for the Sagittarons. Lee's decisions are usually out of resentment for his father or wanting to bone Starbuck.
some semi-spoilery stuff at sitrep..... by chromedome	Mar 23rd, 2007 07:41:32 PM
http://galacticasitrep.blogspo t.com/
ManosTHOF by delatao	Mar 23rd, 2007 08:28:50 PM
this has all happened before and it will all happen again. mebbe starbuck time travels?
Michelle Forbes!!! by Russman	Mar 23rd, 2007 10:32:32 PM
YES!!! She's gotta be in this, right?
yeah, but Helo was on Caprica for all of season 1 by newc0253	Mar 24th, 2007 08:01:04 AM
and a good part of season 2. Apollo was the moral centre on board Galactica for this time. i find it hard to understand the hate for 'Black Market': sure, it didn't contain any super-major revelations but it helped establish a lot more of Apollo's character, his relationship with Dualla, not to mention the surprising fact that 50,000 people on a fleet apparently contains a disturbing number of paedophiles. let's not forget that 'Black Market' also got rid of Billy, who was always the weakest fucking character on BSG.
besides, the real "moral compass" isn't Helo: by newc0253	Mar 24th, 2007 08:06:00 AM
it's Helo's dick. his decisions in seasons 1 & 2 are guided by his pecker, not his moral universalism. it's really only in season 3 that you see Helo speak up for Cylons generally, rather than Boomer/Athena in particular (although the thought of killing all the other Boomers in the universe probably didn't sit well either - mmm, sexy naked Boomers).
this is good news by Jookie_the_uncola	Mar 24th, 2007 08:57:40 AM
stop the hating, it is the best show on sci-fi right now.
new RDM interview about dvd and Season 4 by chromedome	Mar 24th, 2007 02:42:43 PM
Summary: http://galacticasitrep.blogspo t.com/ full interview: http://tinyurl.com/25fuyf He mentions the movie/dvd will be set on Pegasus, pre-season 3, but will "pay off in season 4 He also mentions that he is considering whether or not to end the series in season 4, rather than risk getting cancelled before they could finish the story in a 5th season.
RDM also says... by chromedome	Mar 24th, 2007 03:00:32 PM
That the movie/dvd in the fall is Pegasus based, and that the "Caprica" spin off is unrelated--still in development, not picked up. "Caprica" could be piloted as another movie (like the mini). But the Pegasus based movie (or "extra episodes") is pre-season 3, and will have certain events that ultimately pay-off in season 4. He also says that the plan is to release the dvd almost simultaneously with the broadcast: as an example, if the movie is broadcast on a Friday, the dvd could then be available on the following Monday, etc.
delatao by ManosTHOF	Mar 25th, 2007 12:06:05 AM
Leoben may have been speaking more generally when he said that; I tend to think he's talking about the destiny of the human race and that history has somehow repeated itself. Funny how it seems like a Matrix-like scenario to me-- a great war, few survivors, a mass exodus, resettlement. And maybe this cycle has been repeating itself? As far as Starbuck, she may be the cho-cho-chosen one, and not Baltar or D'Anna as either had once thought or hoped. Starbuck may have reached something D'Anna was trying to reach with her afterlife experiments.

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