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"n-word"?
by VibroCount
Mar 7th, 2007
09:26:29 AM
First a show about how many times they can say shiatt, now a show about the n-word... have they officially run out of ideas?
I wish they'd try to be FUNNY and not topical
by BillyBatts
Mar 7th, 2007
09:28:40 AM
Wait. That's not even topical.
Someone had to be...
by Mace Tofu
Mar 7th, 2007
09:30:54 AM
NOOOOOooooooo!
Sounds like it could go either way
by INWOsuxRED
Mar 7th, 2007
09:55:18 AM
I hope they've been WRITING this for more than one week. The Richards thing happened a long time ago. If they put effort into WRITING this season, rather than making it all up the night before their homework is due, they might return to their glory days. Most of the really great episodes don't have much or anything to do with current events and have a story with humor related to the story.
Yawn.
by Childe Roland
Mar 7th, 2007
10:00:15 AM
This will have to be very funny in ways that have nothing to do with the premise if it's going to overcome the lameness of the premise itself.
Cartman as Jack Bauer...
by Cameron1
Mar 7th, 2007
10:09:33 AM
torturing hippies. It would be the greatest episode of a television show ever. You all know this to be true.
...
by JediWuddayaknow
Mar 7th, 2007
10:26:57 AM
What is it with you people? "THEY HAVE AN IDEA I HAPPEN NOT TO LIKE! THEY'RE OUT OF IDEAS!" Like you're so original for saying it. I mean, the shit episode and this one are what? 4 or 5 YEARS apart? Where there have been many classic episodes produced in-between? Yeah. They're REALLY going for broke now. South Park is just as fresh as it ever was. This episode seems like it'll be hilarious. And sorry, but this is very topical. Anyone remember Michael Richards? It's true too. I can't wait to see South Park's take on this massive bit of hypocrisy.
Topical?
by Proman1984
Mar 7th, 2007
10:27:12 AM
Like they are neother funny nor topical. They are always before the curve. South Park sucks.
"Motherfucking Nigger!"
by Billyeveryteen
Mar 7th, 2007
10:47:44 AM
RACE WAR!!!
this show has only gotten funnier
by purplemonkeydw
Mar 7th, 2007
11:02:56 AM
I couldn't believe how great last season was. I've been out on SP since...I don't know...1998? Last season brought me back...great writing!
agree purplemonkey
by ACE NY
Mar 7th, 2007
11:31:58 AM
cartoon wars, manbearpig, go god go, smug alert, the mystery of the urinal duece? all great and pretty topical. how much more topical can you get than making fun of the "truther" nutcases?
Truther Nutcases?
by DoubleFantasy
Mar 7th, 2007
11:37:50 AM
No no no ACE NY. Buildings do not fall down. Buildings tough! Cant wait to see a 24 South Park episode. The BBC will probably know the script before the writerws do though... they're clairvoyant y'know... Oh shit another building just fell down!
dull
by lionbiu
Mar 7th, 2007
12:07:03 PM
orry but that subject is soooo old and has been done several time before........hopefully the episode will have a point which goes futher than the "if rappers can say it anyone can say it" crap.
I hope they have something on the Saddam hanging.
by JKrow21
Mar 7th, 2007
12:07:53 PM
Saddam's gotta be getting gang banged right about now
"Sound the Napartee"...
by DanielKurland
Mar 7th, 2007
12:10:13 PM
I'm looing forward to South Park coming back, and sure, each season may have some underpar episodes, but there is always AT LEAST one brilliant one.
...I WANT A HEROES PARAODY EP!!!...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 7th, 2007
12:14:07 PM
Even though Butters dropped the bomb when he was wit Biggie, I know SP gonna make this show hilarious...

and to the naysayers, SP has always been funny...the topic of the show might not necessarily be funny, but you can always count on RANDY ("We love you Randy," "Make love to me Randy")...a episode wit him in it is guaranteed gold...

PLUS I WANT A DAMN HEROES PARAODY EPISODE!!!

I predict
by Vern
Mar 7th, 2007
12:36:33 PM
that the episode will show how everybody in the world is unreasonable except these two assholes that make this show. Then the Boondocks will make a brilliant and hilarious episode on the same topic but it won't come on until next fall and there won't be a talkback for it.
Hypocrisy?
by Vern
Mar 7th, 2007
12:44:56 PM
How is it hypocrisy? You guys seem to think that all black people have to agree on everything. The fact is that Herc's scary "gangster rappers" think it's okay to use the word, some other people do not. I don't believe you will find anybody who thinks it's okay for Snoop to say it but not for Will Smith.

And if anybody's talking about the "hypocrisy" that it's different for a white person to say it than for a black person, then let's face it, you're an idiot.

Vern, stop
by GreatOne2
Mar 7th, 2007
12:49:08 PM
You're making too much sense, which is not allowed when you discuss political issues here.

Seems the liberal whiners are out - South Park has been able to successfully skewer every hot-button topic on both sides of the aisle, so now they can't do race? Get real. Perhaps try watching the show, first, then comment.

Oooh I see someone does not like South Park
by lionbiu
Mar 7th, 2007
12:49:14 PM
...admittedley I have grown tired of South Park ever since it became The Daily Show: Animated, this plotline seems pointless and dull...yes some idiot rappers say nigger but most rappers also call women bitches and get shot...should we really be taking advice from them? There is no hypocrisy...it's a tasteless word used by idiots (black or white).
Vern doesn't like South Park??
by Billyeveryteen
Mar 7th, 2007
01:12:06 PM
That's weird, I don't remember them ragging on Steven Seagal.
Vern
by Saluki
Mar 7th, 2007
01:28:17 PM
You are the coolest person in the world for that comment. Well, at least for today.
1) South Park has always
by Cory849
Mar 7th, 2007
01:29:35 PM
1) South Park has always been a satire show that likes to attack sacred cows. That's not a change. That's its raison d'etre. 2) The debate about the N word going on now is not about whether white people should be able to use it (other than whether white kids should be able to call each other my nigga without their black friend beating them senseless, I guess). The bigger debate is the one in the black community about whether BLACK people should keep calling each other it. It would be a shame if a bunch of you angry basement dwelling tech workin' white guys took Matt and Trays episode as an excuse to go around using unnecessary racial epithets just so you can feel like no one can tell YOU What to do.
That is Strange...
by Thorstrongstone
Mar 7th, 2007
01:29:40 PM
I would think that someone who enjoys to write would think it a BAD thing that any word is not available for free use, by everyone. The Rappers have the right idea - take the impact of the word away. The more people who are offended by the word, the longer it will be offensive. It is just a word, it cannot hurt you. Sure, it's usage can be negative, but those using it in that way are morons, and should not be taken seriously. Oh, and when the fuck is McGruder going to continue the Boondocks comic? I miss it, but thankfully Pearls Before Swine is a good, if not equal, alternative.
I agree cory....
by lionbiu
Mar 7th, 2007
01:48:09 PM
....but not many black people use the word, I am tired of everyone thinking that every black person is the same as a rapper. I never say the word...guess what colour I am ;) I love South Park's satire...but they have become so lazy and keep recycling the same plots and just changing them a little to fit in the hot news story of the day...it gets tiresome. Also it is not about taking the power away from the word it's just some idiots who have sold themselves out to make a few quick bucks so they can look "gangsta".
I hope this is more like Krazy Kripples...
by _Maltheus_
Mar 7th, 2007
01:53:51 PM

...and not like the crap from the last two seasons. I still have faith in Trey and Matt's ability to pull back from the abyss. I would love for them to get back to simple coherent stories instead of the topical gags. Topical gags are fun once in a while, but they have really been coming off as neo-con hippies lately. By that I mean they have that annoying something that makes the Cartmans of the world want to beat them up. The old South Park use to make fun of the new South Park.

The commentaries for one of the seasons (six I think) even have them saying over and over again that they get the best episodes when focus on simple stories. They seemed to be onto the winning formula back then, why have they forgotten their epiphanies? Someone needs to smack 'em in the face with their old commentaries.

I wish they'd do...
by kAIN63
Mar 7th, 2007
01:54:55 PM
...an episode parodying real racist scum like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
Mmm... Boondocks...
by David Lazarus Long
Mar 7th, 2007
01:56:12 PM
Wait, what is this a talkback for? I lost my train of thought.
rappers have the right idea?
by maguy1970
Mar 7th, 2007
01:56:53 PM
I can almost guarantee that most of the rappers who use the dreaded N word more than 5 times per "song" have NEVER thought, "god I am taking the impact of this word away..." If anything those idiots NEED the word to have a negative impact so it can show just how tough they are. I do not think many mainstream rappers expect anything more from using the word nigger than to entice bored suburban kids to buy their music. OK, that's not entirely fair, as they also hope to entice 30 year old african americans in the economically depressed areas of the country who think spending the majority of their money on a new matching sweat suit and new sneakers into buying their music as well. I hope this episode is an expose of just how much the majority of the hip-hop culture is a joke.
I think folks are missing the point...
by Childe Roland
Mar 7th, 2007
02:00:24 PM
...concerning why this topic is lame for this episode. It WAS topical...long before Richards went on a racist irade in public. It's been covered off on exhaustively in people's stand-up and is now so played out that an episode of Scrubs exhausted the comedic possibilities with a throwaway line and two-second flashback in what I believe was its second season (the show's on season five or six now). It's true that Matt and Trey have skewered hot button topics on both sides of that ridiculously thin and ever waning political line. It's also true that, on a few ocassions, they've managed to be funny while doing so. But more and more in recent years, they've fallen under the mistaken impression that being able to see the humor/absurdity in something also gives you insight into the solution or the way things should be. And when they start down that preachy, predictable road, it leads only one place: so far up their own asses that they can't even tell if farts are funny anymore. So. like I said up near the top of this talkback, if they want to avoid that familiar pitfall, they're going to have to be fucking funny in ways that don't relate to the very tired topic they've chosen to explore.
So next fall is when we finally get a funny Boondocks?
by DigitalDong
Mar 7th, 2007
02:09:53 PM
Thanks for the heads up Vern.
They're gonna say "Neoprene"?
by Doctor_Sin
Mar 7th, 2007
02:18:42 PM
Oh, "nigger." Ha ha ha...he..he...ummm...wow - That was still "topical" like two months ago. And it was only funny then in a psychotic kind of way. South Park blows when they try to be so damn referential. Except Chef dying because that had just happened with Hayes leaving the show. F this.
the C word
by Kloipy
Mar 7th, 2007
02:31:19 PM
It should be unacceptable for anyone to use the "N" word. But if we are trying to be such an inclusive and fair country, why is it that it is acceptable to call some white guy a cracker, or honkey, or something with no reprocussion. I didn't own slaves. I didn't want segregation, why should i pay for the sins of my ancestors. If people want equal it has to be equal for everyone. Not just the minorities (who aren't very minor anymore). If we would only stop calling each other black or white or red or whatever, racism wouldn't be a problem. But as humans, I'm sure we would find some way to hate each other
South Park is about 50% great, 50% shyte now.
by Richard Cranium
Mar 7th, 2007
02:39:07 PM
But the shyte is still worth wading through to get to the good stuff. I don't mind their political views as long as the goofy off the wall humor is still there. I don't understand people who can tell if a show is going to suck based on a 2 sentence blurb. Especially when one of the sentences is referring to Cartman fighting a midget, which sounds like it could be the highest of hilarity.
white people can say the n word
by LarryTheCableGuy
Mar 7th, 2007
02:46:16 PM
nigger, their i just said it. i heard it said by white people all my life. it means ignorant person to me. not black, not white not chineese or mexican, anone can be one. i'm gonna go call my boss it right now.
larry
by Kloipy
Mar 7th, 2007
02:48:42 PM
well your name tells me all i need to know about you. But i'm sure you never just start calling black people that. it's easy to talk shit on the internet, but I'm sure you'd never do that in "real" life
well i know when not to say stuff
by LarryTheCableGuy
Mar 7th, 2007
02:52:47 PM
thatll get me beat up. but i'm tired of being told i cant say a word or not. i dont own anyone and noone owns me.
words
by Kloipy
Mar 7th, 2007
02:54:32 PM
are nothing without meaning, and that word means a lot of hurt to a lot of people. Why continue to use it when there are so many other words to describe ignorant
well i know when not to say stuff
by LarryTheCableGuy
Mar 7th, 2007
02:55:46 PM
thatll get me beat up. but i'm tired of being told i cant say a word or not. i dont own anyone and noone owns me.
yea if youre verbally fluent
by LarryTheCableGuy
Mar 7th, 2007
03:03:23 PM
and to have a thesaurus up in your is a good thing. and will make you seem more intellegent. i personally never say the word outloud and really am just kidding about calling my boss it. but if someone is acting like a n-word or even something else, for whatever reason, it's alright to think it and if an insult fight happens and words fly you shouldn't be persecuted for using it. but i guess there's a lot of history with that word in this country. but i also hear rag-head and sand-"n-word" and redneck and nazi thrown around a lot too. lets not use them either then.
Gangster rap=shit anyway
by Richard Cranium
Mar 7th, 2007
03:09:26 PM
Not sure why we're even discussing the cultural significance of afformentioned medium. Much like torture porn, it's just intended to shock people into paying attention to it. Any fuckwit could write and perform a gangster rap song, much like any fuckwit could direct 'Hostel 4'.
...A NOTE ABOUT RAPPERS...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 7th, 2007
03:26:32 PM
...they dont use the word wit the "er" but wit a "a"...one is a racist term, the other is a term of endearment...
upcoming episodes
by rdsxfan8
Mar 7th, 2007
03:28:56 PM
i hear that they arent gonna do any episodes yet about anna nicole. I guess even they have a line they arent willing to cross. I am kinda hoping for some type of rehab episode ( ala britney) and than maybe an episode about a love triangle like the one that female astronaut that tried to kill someone is in right now...... and to anyone who says this show is outta ideas, you try writing a show for 10 seasons. Ill bet you couldnt even do a full one let alone 10... still think this show is much funny that the family guy any day!!!! at least the show has a script as opposed to the FG just throwing in pop culture references and gags for the sake of it.... WE NEED ANOTHER SP movie already.
about the n-bomb...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 7th, 2007
03:34:15 PM
ummm...its a offensive word...and Larry, youre right to have your opinions and free speech, but Im thinkin youre a closeted racist, nothin wrong wit it...and if anyone ever called me a N in a fight, Im pretty sure Ill go to jail for manslaughter...
...bout Anna Nicole...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 7th, 2007
03:58:29 PM
...I think SP wont do a ep bout Anna Nicole not because of moral reasons, but because its been done to death...but then again, dont forget they made two Steve Irwin jokes in one season...and how bout a freakin "How to Catch a Predator Episode" paraody? I can definately seein Cartman wantin to be on there....
This Is Madness...!
by buster00
Mar 7th, 2007
04:03:26 PM
THIS...IS...SPARTA!!
I dunno, ahole...
by Childe Roland
Mar 7th, 2007
04:08:57 PM
...the "done to death" thing hasn't stopped Matt and Trey before (even as it pertains to tonight's episode), so maybe they aren't doing an Anna Nicole thing because they just don't find it funny? I'd have agreed with them up until the judge started acting like a hormonal pregnant woman. That was some funny in an absurdly horrible way shit. But Anna Nicole herself is kind of a tragedy...an unfinished if not completely wasted life. Don't get me wrong, she's no Marilyn or Princess Di, but her death isn't as slapstick funny as the fucking Crocodile Hunter's was. Crikey!
Her death was total slapstick!
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Mar 7th, 2007
04:38:46 PM
Dee dee dee, on my way to starve my baby and down some uppers, whoops, I'm dead!
I think that if you are
by JediWuddayaknow
Mar 7th, 2007
04:38:51 PM
I think that if you are black (and no, I don't mean all black people use it) and a word said by someone who is not would offend you, you shouldn't use the fucking word. All it does is keep that word alive. Now, I don't consider myself a liberal, and neither do I use the word. It's common sense. Why would you say a word constantly that you would kick the shit out someone else for saying in your presence? How is THAT not hypocrisy?
Am I the only one that think the Boondocks suck?
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Mar 7th, 2007
04:42:08 PM
I'll take Matt and Trey over that jackass MacGruder any day of the week.
When does Venture Bros start up again...
by Russman
Mar 7th, 2007
04:53:19 PM
The Search isn't working on this site and I can't find the article.
Kikes, Wops, Niggers, Fags, Krauts, Hebes, and Spics
by Doctor_Sin
Mar 7th, 2007
04:53:46 PM
Limeys, Chinks, Gooks, and Goombahs. Frogs, Redskins, dykes, lard-aasses and four-eyes.

There, I think we've aired all that quite nicely.

And yes, a couple of these terms apply to me.

well south park stopped being funny like 5 years ago
by hif4life
Mar 7th, 2007
04:57:31 PM
its true, i watched a couple of episodes lately and i do believe they have lost the magic they once had... even the overhyped cartoon wars was boring
BillyBatts
by MattmanReturns
Mar 7th, 2007
04:57:56 PM
Yeah, no one thinks South Park is funny. (this is sarcasm).
'Nigger' isn't just an African thing
by Jackie Boy
Mar 7th, 2007
05:12:40 PM
back in the early 1900s, Italians and hispanics were called niggers all the time. Sure, slaves were called the n-word first, and they have new slurs for aforementioned peoples, but still. BTW i'm not a racist or anything. As a Greasy goobah guinnea spic, I defend my right to be called a nigger!
How can you guys call yourself South Park fans...
by _Maltheus_
Mar 7th, 2007
05:13:51 PM

...when you quibble over the right and wrong words to use. It's simple, the only thing that counts is the intent behind the word. If you're singing along with a rap sound and say nigga, who cares. If you say it in reference to a particular black person you hate, then you're a bigot. And being a bigot only makes you an ass, there's no right or wrong to it until you use force.

Now a lot of people will take extraordinary offense if you say the word, regardless of intent, but that's their problem. You might want to make it your problem too to avoid an ass-kicking, but there's nothing wrong with saying the word when you aren't trying to offend someone. America is entirely too sensitive these days. Words are just words and it's not my job to manage your feelings. Or to putting it a more appropriate way, if you don't like it, you can just pass the blunt to the nigga on the left.

Spanish and Italians...
by _Maltheus_
Mar 7th, 2007
05:18:02 PM
...have Moorish blood in them. That might be where that comes from. Although the Moors were mischaracterized as black by Shakespeare I think. Either way, I'm pretty sure that nigger has it's roots in the word Negro. If that's true, then there's nothing bad in the word in and of itself. It's just that the people who use to use it were dicks and often violent.
"You're a cantaloupe!"
by Jackie Boy
Mar 7th, 2007
05:28:18 PM
"Ya know, I read a lot. Especially about things... about history. I find that shit fascinating. Here's a fact I don't know whether you know or not. Sicilians were spawned by niggers. It's a fact. Yeah. You see, uh, Sicilians have, uh, black blood pumpin' through their hearts. Hey, no, if eh, if eh, if you don't believe me, uh, you can look it up. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, uh, you see, uh, the Moors conquered Sicily. And the Moors are niggers. So you see, way back then, uh, Sicilians were like, uh, wops from Northern Italy. Ah, they all had blonde hair and blue eyes, but, uh, well, then the Moors moved in there, and uh, well, they changed the whole country. They did so much fuckin' with Sicilian women, huh? That they changed the whole bloodline forever. That's why blonde hair and blue eyes became black hair and dark skin. You know, it's absolutely amazing to me to think that to this day, hundreds of years later, that, uh, that Sicilians still carry that nigger gene. Now this... No, I'm, no, I'm quoting... history. It's written. It's a fact, it's written. Your ancestors are niggers. Uh-huh. Hey. Yeah. And, and your great-great-great-great grandmother fucked a nigger, ho, ho, yeah, and she had a half-nigger kid... now, if that's a fact, tell me, am I lying? 'Cause you, you're part eggplant."
The Brits called Indians "niggers" back in the 19th C
by Doctor_Sin
Mar 7th, 2007
05:30:17 PM
With all those Colonel Bogey stereotypes with their bristling mustachios and their pith helmets and their tea.
this is the most ignorant talkback ever
by BadMrWonka
Mar 7th, 2007
06:04:36 PM
on both sides of the board. so I'm just going to ignore it and post my comment from the Lost talkback:

if you were to quit your job and just hang out and smoke pot and drink all day. it would probably be REALLY fun for a while. but then after a while you would become a pathetic, slovenly mess, and every day would be the same: useless and meaningless. then, even though you would then want to stop all the shit and get your life back, it would be too late. you'd be hooked on the booze and drugs and totally Lost.

but what if there were a rehab center named "Heroes"?

I didn't think that comment was awesome, there, either.
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Mar 7th, 2007
06:35:50 PM
Stop spamming for Heroes, nerd.
spamming?
by BadMrWonka
Mar 7th, 2007
06:41:43 PM
spamming a network show, that's a new one...it's not Up Up and Away...

if I were spamming I'd link my own short film:

http://tinyurl.com/y9t 7wa

what is this non-topical SP golden age people refer to?
by JacksParasites
Mar 7th, 2007
06:54:43 PM
I always hear people who claim to be fans of South Park, but who prefer when they're not topical or political. What was that, like 8 episodes? 9 episodes? South Park is almost always political. When has it not carried a political message? Sparky the gay dog? Yes. "It Hits the Fan"? Yes. The episode when Kenny really died? Yes. The Elian Gonzalez episode? Yes. "Trapped in a Closet"? Yes. I think I can just about count the non-political episodes on my fingers: Towelie, Scott Teneman must down, Awsome-o, maybe a couple of 1st season episodes, the Butters Show, last season's mighty ducks parody. I'm starting to run out here.
What a surprise - everyone here is a moron
by Roll Fizzlebeef
Mar 7th, 2007
07:35:31 PM
Yes, Herc - there is no such thing as context and there never has been. It's perfectly alright for anyone to use any word at any time -- that's why Ann Coulter wasn't being a bigot the other day, she was being CLEVER. Of course it's inappropriate to use certain words at certain times; that has never meant banning the word entirely, as if that were ever possible.
What about midgets? Are they still fair game?
by Alonzo Mosely
Mar 7th, 2007
08:33:52 PM
'Cause I am far too lazy to keep up with the memos...
Nice True Romance quote...
by DanielKurland
Mar 7th, 2007
09:22:43 PM
A good movie.
Randy is the best character on the show
by thefreeagents
Mar 7th, 2007
09:22:54 PM
that is all
Yeah, I'm gonna listen to the Steven Seagal fan...lol.
by IAmJack'sUserID
Mar 7th, 2007
09:39:25 PM
Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary. It means opposite of what you think most likely. It IS hypocrisy; if the word is so vile, it should be completely eliminated. And blacks utter out racial epithets in their rap music, in their movies, and ESPECIALLY in their comedy, but that's perfectly OK.
Not quite what I was expecting.
by Ironmuskrat
Mar 7th, 2007
09:46:39 PM
I had to laugh at the Wheel of Fortune bit in the beginning, I honestly don't know what I would have done if I had been in that situation, keep my mouth shut and not win or take a chance that was really the word. Extra points for having Cartman pummel a midget while mocking him the whole time. Not sure where Matt and Trey was going with that but they made a good point at the end about people should just admit they don't get it and leave it at that.
So basically, because blacks can say it...
by terry1978
Mar 7th, 2007
09:47:18 PM
and you can't, you're angry. Sounds like something a 5 year old would get angry about. I can't play in the sandbox, but that other kid can.
BadMrWonka...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 7th, 2007
10:08:08 PM
you have said some hardhittin stuff...I like that analogy as much as I like my "LOST is gettin blue while HEROES is gettin laid"....
so didnt expect naggers...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 7th, 2007
10:11:01 PM
...maybe if I didnt see the commercials for it I wouldnt assume nigger, but I wasnt thinkin of no other possible word, maybe noggers?...and I gotta definately start callin people nigger guy, I think there are a few in this TB...
I dunno if you're talking to me, terry78.
by IAmJack'sUserID
Mar 7th, 2007
10:14:05 PM
If so, you know jack shit. You're black, so how the hell can you know how a white would feel about it? It's PC BS and you know it.
simpsons is doing a 24 parody
by Jubba
Mar 7th, 2007
11:01:47 PM
they are calling it "24 minutes" and it will be their 400th episode
What if BadMrWonka's film was like snorting coke?
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Mar 7th, 2007
11:02:38 PM
Snorting coke out of a hairy, dingleberried asshole? And there was a rehab center? A rehab center called "watching paint dry"?
Terry1978: Kind of like when...
by Some Dude
Mar 7th, 2007
11:03:28 PM
...some people are allowed to use a water fountain and others aren't or when a certain bus seat is reserved for certain skin tones? Is that something only a five year old would get upset about?
The Boondocks
by tbransonlives
Mar 7th, 2007
11:28:06 PM
Bores me. MLK jr. episode was good, but the rest bores me.
N_GGERS
by Elmore Rigby
Mar 7th, 2007
11:58:03 PM
People who annoy you...f'ing brilliant! I'm calling everyone at work 'nigger guy' tomorrow.
I thought that Scientology episode was insane...
by SK229
Mar 8th, 2007
12:01:58 AM
especially when they had the text at the bottom, "This is what scientologists actually believe...", correctly assuming that most people would think that the explanation of Xenu and everything was just made up South Park bullshit. But no... that is what they actually believe. I've always heard Howard Stern and other people saying there's this recording of Hubbard actually admitting that he was making up a religion to get rich and that he knew Hollywood stars would be the most gullible and most likely to follow him and donate millions of dollars to the 'church'. Is that true? Does anyone know if that really exists? Anyway... they really are nuts. I have a friend of a friend who lives down on Tamarind near the 101 across from the Celebrity Center and when they tried to get the name of the street changed to L. Ron Hubbard Way, this friend of a friend started a petition in the neighborhood to not have it changed. The fucking nuts threatened this person, stole this person's mail, and even went further than that on occasion (not going to get specific because, frankly, unlike this person, I find those nuts scary). This person was successful and they weren't allowed to change it as they had hoped. I've also heard estimates that the scientologists own as much as 1/3 of the real estate in Hollywood. Whether or not that's BS, I don't know. Scientology rant is now over... fuck you, you Thetan bastards! I'm clear!
Now THAT was funny.
by HappyHamster
Mar 8th, 2007
12:05:48 AM
What's Lost?
Some Dude
by IGoToCollege
Mar 8th, 2007
12:14:47 AM
Touche.
GREAT Episode!
by HappyHamster
Mar 8th, 2007
12:17:11 AM
Token represented one side. The "midget" the other side. One the one hand you hurt people, there's something to that.

But Eric Cartman represents the idiot who won't learn no matter what.

GREAT ep!

still not a funny show
by hif4life
Mar 8th, 2007
12:36:53 AM
this show is over and done for.. time to say goodbye to it
IAmJack'sUserID
by lionbiu
Mar 8th, 2007
12:45:07 AM
you sound like a spoilt brat......not all black people use it you dumbarse. Some do use it and they are fools...its a tasteless and idiotic word and I would hardly think any white person should be angry that they can't say such a ridiculous and stupid word.
ginger = n-word mixed up
by Jubba
Mar 8th, 2007
01:07:09 AM
i thought the episode about gingers was about the same sort of stuff...maybe not about the word itself though...ah well, funny stuff...need more randy drunk and fighting
bayouwilly, thank you for your kind words
by BadMrWonka
Mar 8th, 2007
01:10:34 AM
I look forward to your next feature that gets accepted to 9 short film festivals.

plus, you're cute...

That "Cartman" is so precocious
by Rupee88
Mar 8th, 2007
01:30:07 AM
love that kid
Jack's User ID
by Vern
Mar 8th, 2007
01:49:50 AM
Whuh? That's a weird dictionary you have. Anyway I know you're not stupid, you know what it means so I won't quote you American Heritage. But I gotta stand by what I said, it is ridiculous to pretend that white people saying "nigger" and black people saying "nigga" is the same exact thing. They are different words with different meanings being said by different people with different contexts and histories. Which one do you want? Do you want white people to be able to say "nigger" (or "nigga" for that matter) without social consequences, or do you want black people to stop saying "nigga?" I don't mind if it's the latter one but since I'm white it's not for me to say.

And again, you're talking about black people like they all get together once a week and decide what they as a race are going to do. Not all black comedians or musicians do the same thing or believe the same thing, just like not all white comedians are on the fuckin Blue Collar Comedy tour.

And also, people change over their lives. Richard Pryor, the greatest comedian of all time if you ask me, said the n-word all the time, but decided to stop after he went to Africa. Paul Mooney recently said he was gonna stop after the Michael Richards incident. Other people don't agree that there is any reason to stop. I don't know, but I do know I loved that Martin Luther King Day episode of Boondocks that Al Sharpton was upset about because of it's use of the word. I think it's a more complicated issue than some people here are making it out to be, but still, no it is not remotely hypocritical to say that Richard Pryor doing a routine about "Super Nigger" is less offensive than Michael Richards yelling the same word at a dude in the audience.

to Richard Cranium
by Vern
Mar 8th, 2007
01:59:54 AM
I challenge you to perform and record a "gangster rap" song, as you said any fuckwit could do. If possible I would like it to be on par with something off of Straight Outta Compton or at least Ice-T's Power. You can just email me the mp3 unless you want to send it on CD. Thanks in advance Richard.

p.s. If you do not have the proper recording equipment I would accept as a backup for you to define "gangster rap" and briefly describe it's history, some notable artists and albums, who are your favorites or least favorites and why. thanks bud.

"Al Sharpton was upset"
by Rupee88
Mar 8th, 2007
02:12:11 AM
Al Sharpton saying he's upset to get media coverage is not the same as him actually really being upset.
Something nice to say
by Vern
Mar 8th, 2007
02:22:46 AM
Okay, I didn't watch the whole episode, but the opening on Wheel of Fortune that sets up the story was very funny and clever. Good job, assholes.

But white people, no, please do not call everybody "nigger guy." Thank you for your cooperation.

Why are they assholes?
by tbransonlives
Mar 8th, 2007
02:38:22 AM
eh?
Re: Comedians changing their stance
by Bobo_Vision
Mar 8th, 2007
05:32:28 AM
Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle are on that list as well. Chris used to do this sharp piece about the difference between black people and "Nigg***". In the piece he says "I love black people but I hate nigg****". But after doing that piece he said a lot of white people came up to him and would say things like 'Right on Chris, I hate nigg****' too, and he said it made him sick, and he felt like he was giving people a license to be ignorant since they couldn't get the deeper humour, so he never does that bit anymore. Chappelle too said that part of the reason he walked off the show was because he felt the show was walking that line between jokes that diffuse and make light of racism versus jokes that may promote racism.
vern
by BadMrWonka
Mar 8th, 2007
06:27:23 AM
that dickhead (yes, I got it) is a lame-o...would you listen to my gangsta rap songs?

what if they weren't exactly gangsta rap, but more acoustic singer/songwriter stuff...

what if I threw in a $20?

Vern, get the pole out of your ass.
by FluffyUnbound
Mar 8th, 2007
06:28:24 AM
They need to do an episode that mocks anyone who puts any energy at all into discussing this. Oh shit, now that includes me. Oh well.
The "Middel Redneck"
by Kentucky Colonel
Mar 8th, 2007
06:52:41 AM
Who was the "middle redneck" supposed to resemble? I say either Ted "The Nuge" Nugent or Neil "Southern Man" Young. Too wierd, man (as Zaphod might say).
Middle Redneck
by Kentucky Colonel
Mar 8th, 2007
06:53:06 AM
my bad
White people CAN say nigga
by iwontwin
Mar 8th, 2007
07:12:33 AM
But suburban white people should not, that word belongs to the people of the ghetto, the south, who were oppressed by you yankees, yuppies, who bounced from the cities once you heard the BLACKS were coming to town.
"Say, 'Don't go into the light Carol Anne!'"
by Anakin Whoopass
Mar 8th, 2007
07:19:05 AM
I LOL'd.
Can I call the French the N word?
by Kizeesh
Mar 8th, 2007
07:25:29 AM
In an ironic fashion? (see controversial)
Personally I perfer Nelly
by DigitalDong
Mar 8th, 2007
07:39:36 AM
But most gangsta rap is bought by young white kids. Not that it means anything, there's just more white kids than black kids in the US. And when Vern gets his own show he can totally own the assholes known Matt and Trey. And and maybe get laid too since where making up fantasies and shit.
Oooh, Vern assigned me an essay
by Richard Cranium
Mar 8th, 2007
08:52:25 AM
The history of shit. Fine, I'll grant that I listened to a little bit of Ice T and NWA and Dr Dre back in the day, and that stuff may have had some value, but 99% of what they put out now is absolute shit with has no artistic merit. It's garbage that uses a catchy hook and shock value to sell itself. And yes, any fuckwit could sell 100,000 rap albums with the right image and the right equipment.
South Park was "Dammit!" before "Dammit!" was cool.
by uss cygnus
Mar 8th, 2007
09:37:24 AM
Chef as Zombie Tony! Can Kenny be killed by a cougar? Or, better yet: Cartman: "Get me a hacksaw."
All you talkbackers are crazy Porch Monkeys!!!
by ZeroCorpse
Mar 8th, 2007
09:54:10 AM
What? I'm taking it back! (Watch Clerks 2 before flaming, please.)
Vern- Modern rap is NOT like 90s NWA or Public Enemy.
by ZeroCorpse
Mar 8th, 2007
09:57:41 AM
Unless you think a worthless jingle like "Pussy Real Good" is anywhere near as topical as anything penned by Dr. Dre, I'll stand with Richard Cranium in saying that as long as the marketing image is there, the general rap audience these days will swallow anything.
That short was in 9 film festivals??!
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Mar 8th, 2007
11:02:20 AM
...bullshit. Unless those film festivals were of the caliber of the "Dayton Retirement Home Film Festival" and the acclaimed "Steve from across the street showing mpegs on his computer Film Festival". Thanks for the compliment, though. Since my new job I have to dress up a little better. I have no idea how you know that. Are you that guy in my office with the lisp?
Wow. This episode didn't play out like I thought
by maxwell lord iv
Mar 8th, 2007
11:03:03 AM
Judging from the talkback, I thought it was going to be another 'How come we can't say nigger, but rappers can' whines. I was surprised in that they actually made an episode to serve the point that on the whole, white people will never really know what it is like to be racially discriminated against. The ridiculous situation of Stans dad and Kramer lobbying the government to get the word 'Nigger-guy' banned. The line: 'Nigger and Guy, two words that are harmless by themselves' is so absurd and just highlights the way white people will never understand what it's like to be called a nigger. This was a really well written episode but I think that the danger is many people will miss the real point.
Vern doesn't like South Park?
by NutsackMemories
Mar 8th, 2007
11:27:38 AM
Chalk up another member to the humorless liberal club. Sigh.
I was watching the end of some TV show...
by rbatty024
Mar 8th, 2007
12:07:32 PM
on VH1 where they have uninformed people talk about current events. Anyway, one of the talking heads, who was african-american, used the term "sand-n*****" in reference to an Arab. It wasn' even bleeped out. While I think the idea of reclaiming the "n" word is interesting and I kind of believe a black man can use it, I don't think that gives this guy the right use the "n" word when refering to people of other ethnicities. Just because you can use a racial term does not give you the right to be racist towards others.
the rampant stupidity throughout this TB astounds me
by triplefive
Mar 8th, 2007
12:19:53 PM
so many morons. so little time.
the rampant pretentiousness through this TB astounds me
by NutsackMemories
Mar 8th, 2007
12:32:24 PM
so many elitists, so little time.
re: iwontwin...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 8th, 2007
01:16:11 PM
...no one who isnt black can say nigga, no matter even if youre from the ghetto...I have problems wit Fat Joe and J-Lo sayin it (theyre from the ghetto)...the n word should only be used by black people (but I know white people are sayin it like crazy when theres no black people around)...
Nutsack
by Thorstrongstone
Mar 8th, 2007
01:16:20 PM
Thankfully, we Liberals have a few people who do think comedy is funny, even though it may be a wittle offensive. Seriously, I am as Liberal as it gets. But I am sick of hearing all these supposed "free thinkers," bitch about how words should be banned. FUCK YOU(not you nutsack), no words should be banned and it should not fucking matter who gets offended. Grow a fucking backbone, the world is a tough place and there are a ton of other things out there that will actually HURT you. We need a real Liberal to take charge, it is a shame that Bill Hicks is dead...
and bout gangsta rap...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 8th, 2007
01:19:21 PM
...is there such a thing anymore? when I think bout gangsta rap I think bout police brutality and killin people...now we got songs about a chewy fruity piece of candy..."shake that laffy taffy"....
Best non-topical South Park is...
by letsfightinglove
Mar 8th, 2007
01:30:58 PM
"Good Times With with Weapons". RRETS FIGHTING RROVE! PROTECT MY BALLS!
Jesse Jackson Sucks
by snowtoo
Mar 8th, 2007
01:42:41 PM
Why worry about what he thinks? He's gotten rich from keeping people ignorant and dependent. He wants no racial harmony. If we did reach such a goal, he'd be out of work.
It may not be hypocritical, but it IS sad...
by anchorite
Mar 8th, 2007
02:10:46 PM
that black people denigrate themselves by referring to each other using racial epithets.
Vern's assertion that "nigger" and "nigga" are inherently different is, in my opinion, looking at things through PC-tinted classes.
Either version of the word is etymologically tied to a racial epithet which stemmed from the term for the color black, NEGRO (which, by the way, is the proper scientific classification for peoples with certain cranial features and skin color, geographically linked over 15-5000 generations to sub-Saharan Africa). So scientifically, it is an accurate term.
I do not become enraged at having to classify myself as caucasian, but whatever.
The truth is, words change meaning over time due to various groups having influence on the vernacular. Hence, "gay" and "queer" no longer mean "happy" and "strange", respectively. One could argue that someone referring to a homosexual as "gay" or "queer" would be an epithet; however it is part of that group's vernacular.
Queer As Folk and Queer Eye For the Straight Guy are popular programs with such an epithet in the title, yet they get no hassles from the homosexual community. Why? Because homosexuals have embraced those words, even taking pride in them - Gay Pride Parades take place all over the country.
Interestingly, "straight" people can call homosexuals "gay" all day long, seemingly without consequence. But how about a common British term, "fag" or "faggot"? Homosexual men call each other that all the time. In England, it also means cigarette (probably from the old meaning relating to a bundle of twigs).
But if someone is referred to as a fag or faggot, such as Ann Coulter jokingly referred to John Edwards recently, then it seems to be portrayed as being as shockingly offensive as if she had called Jesse Jackson a nigger. It's all so damn silly.
I really believe people are DESPERATELY LOOKING for things to get upset about and hate each other for. My advice is to be respectful to the individual, but poke fun at the institution whenever it seems out of whack.
Michael Richards was not being funny when he said those things during his comedy act. Neither was Mel Gibson during his arrest. But for these cities to try and ban the word "nigger" is really pathetic. Especially when it would effectively amount to banning the word "dude", "bro" or "man".
God this was a long post. Sorry, I didn't realize. I was writing this while I was on hold with Sprint trying to take care of problems with my cell phone bill. What does that say about Sprint's customer service?
Mr. A-hole...why should black people say it?
by anchorite
Mar 8th, 2007
02:16:31 PM
What's the benefit of calling one another a racial epithet? How is it a positive contribution to black society, or society in general? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who uses it to refer to someone is showing themselves to be low-class and fairly moronic. I'm waiting for the shoe to drop on "fat".
Trying watching an Ep of The Wire
by Doggus47
Mar 8th, 2007
02:46:41 PM
and then not saying the "n" word the next day in general conversation
clarifications
by Vern
Mar 8th, 2007
02:57:45 PM
First of all, I wasn't being sarcastic, I seriously thought the episode was funny and smart from what I saw of it. They did a good job. My prediction was wrong. But yes, I do think these guys are assholes just based on the interviews I've read with them and the way they have spent the last ten years making millions of dollars by purposely stirring shit up and then pretending to be shocked and victimized when, one out of every 75 or 100 tries, they succeed in actually upsetting somebody. "Oh boo hoo, when we deliberately tried to provoke Tom Cruise and mercilessly mocked his religious beliefs he had the NERVE to respond exactly as we prayed he would and create millions of dollars worth of free promotion for our low budget cartoon show!" Boo fucking god damn hoo.

But I really should stop posting in any South Park talkbacks, sorry. I was just responding to Herc's request for predictions, and then I got stuck.

As for "gangster rap," I thought the guy was talking about actual gangster rap, which to my understanding means Schooly D, Ice-T, NWA and guys like that. If he's talking about those dipshits with the Liberace jewelry they have now that seems kind of weird to call it gangster. And anyway, rap music has almost since the beginning had the garbagey mainstream shitty version on TV and the radio hurting its reputation. I don't think it's fair to throw away the entire subgenre of gangster rap based on that.

Anyway sorry for any confusion, thanks.

The thing that bothers me with South Park sometimes...
by rbatty024
Mar 8th, 2007
03:22:44 PM
is that The South Park guys (whatever the hell their names are) generally take an issue and then poke fun at both sides of that issue (which is fine), but then they don't actually put themselves out there and state what they believe. If you don't have the balls to put your beliefs out on the marketplace, then what gives you the right to criticize people who, right or wrong, at least have the guts to share their opinion. I remember before Team America came out they said that after this film no one will no what side of the political spectrum they fall on. This just furthers my belief that they don't have the guts to share their opinion or -gasp- they might get made fun of. It's kind of the wimps way out if you ask me. Oh, and they rely way too heavily on "funny voices." Funny voices are just one step above clowns in the comedic world.
It's kind of funny that Ann Coulter,
by Novaman5000
Mar 8th, 2007
03:29:00 PM
who looks like a piss-poor drag queen, would use a gay slur like that.

What a fucking cunt she is.

What up my naggers?
by _Maltheus_
Mar 8th, 2007
03:35:51 PM

Gansta rap was good in the early 90s, now it's just kind of sad. It should have evolved into something more mature by now. The posing wears thin after a while and music fads usually don't last this long. I know that some hip-hop has evolved, but if I were a black I wouldn't use nigga in my music, unless it was to make a point about the "nigga mentality" ala ice cube.

I liked last night's episode. Better than anything from the two previous seasons. The wheel of fortune part was classic.

Touched a nerv???
by garcicr
Mar 8th, 2007
04:21:36 PM
He Im mexican and Im not offended...or am I....Too Soon?
Just us Pimps, no Ho's.
by ZombieSlayer666
Mar 8th, 2007
05:30:10 PM
Seriously, Cartman as Jack Bauer in a 24 Spoof, if its done right, and it can be, just think of the COPS spoof, WILL be one of the fucking funniest things on TV in the last 5 years.
What's up my Cracka's
by JacksParasites
Mar 8th, 2007
05:38:13 PM
That's cute that in such a forum as this where the use of the word "nigger" is clearly not being used in anything remotely close to a derogatory way that some TBers are actually writing "nigg***" instead of the word. But seriously, I find it troubling that people feel so uncomfortable using it in even the most benign ways. Bravo to south park for the wheel of fortune bit. I woke up this morning still laughing about it. Also, for those like Stan who say white people can't fully grasp that level of persecution, what about white Jews?
bayouwilly, thank you for your kind words, again
by BadMrWonka
Mar 8th, 2007
08:07:12 PM
you radiate positivity. I think the film's been successful because it appeals to other people that have been through film school, and were forced to watch real films like this. so it takes the piss out of those, and they get a kick out of it. I've shown it to a lot of non-filmy people, and they get a chuckle out of it, but they're not really laughing like anyone that has sat through a semester of this stuff.
^Are Jews really that discriminated against?
by terry1978
Mar 8th, 2007
08:09:08 PM
Today, I mean. Does a Jew walk into a store and they immediately assume the joint's going to be robbed a day later?
GODDAMIT
by gotta eat
Mar 8th, 2007
08:21:16 PM
They can't possibly top the humor of take-a-shit-guy appearing with a roll of toilet paper on this weeks LOST. In your face, south park!!!
When SP jumped the shark...
by BurnHollywood
Mar 8th, 2007
09:00:18 PM
I'd have to say it was at the end of the "Sexual Harassment Panda" episode when the panda comes back at the end of the episode and EXPLAINS that lawsuits are evil. No jokes, just pure lecture. The show's been in tedious crusade mode ever since, with a few bright spots scattered like corn in a steaming Christmas Poo...
Terry1978: Ignoring the complaints of a 5 year old?
by Some Dude
Mar 8th, 2007
11:06:21 PM
You can do better than that.
rbatty, why must people always spell out opinions
by Big Bad Clone
Mar 8th, 2007
11:28:02 PM
Just because O'Reilly has a little text box that underlines what he says doesn't mean we all need to read it. Maybe it's "subtle" but you can see where the guys fall on any issue even if they take the piss out of each side a little. In any case, who gives a shit as long as it produces an enjoyable episode?
Southpark creators
by readingwriter
Mar 9th, 2007
12:47:30 AM
Why do they have to "put themselves out there and state what they REALLY believe"? They do the show, and boom, people react, it stirs shit up among those who actually watch the show or the aholes who just hear about it. Why do they have to check in with their actual beliefs? And I don't consider them assholes since I've never heard this crying from them about being victims. Man, when 99% of the crap reported on this site is about new depictions of murder and promoting stereotypes of ALL ethnic types, I can't get too bent over people who are using humor that actually makes people laugh (as opposed to the "oh, I appreciate the political point of that joke, so I will only chuckle but them applaud the comic who shares my PC political viewpoint" type of "humor") while bringing up topics from a point of view no one else does.
Assholes and the 1st amendment
by adeepercut2k
Mar 9th, 2007
02:29:54 AM
Hey Vern, I would agree with you if they were complaining assholes all the time. If since the beginning of their show, they complained about people's reactions, then I could understand your opinion. But they've only complained recently and for good reason. After the scientology episode, when it was about to be re-aired, Comedy Central pulled the episode. At the same time, Paramount was releasing MI:3. Paramount and CC are under Viacom's umbrella. As you probably know, Cruise was accused of complaining about the episode and threatened Viacom to get the ep pulled. None of this matters. Two seasons before the scientology ep aired, they created a gem of an episode satirizing the Mormon religion. In order to cover their asses, they used the same plot devices from that ep in the scientology ep. CC had NO reason to pull the episode. There was no possibility of a lawsuit because they satirized Cruise's legal proclivities. They satirized scientology in the exact way they satirized Mormonism and this was never in question at any point of the episode. The 1st amendment backs this creative choice and no court would rule against them. But when the 1st amendment is abandoned by companies and people with true power and money, the 1st amendment loses power. This is why they are "boo hoo"ing. When CC decided to block out the image of Mohhammed, fear was their reason. They decided that comfort was more important than the 1st amendment. Before 9/11, Muhammad was portrayed in a South Park episode called Super Best Friends. He was portrayed in traditional garb and given the elemental power of fire. (I'd kill for that.) He uses his power to help the other true religions defeat the false religion of Blaintology. What changed? Why can't they air an image of Muhammad? Does Islam define our Bill of Rights? Does CC's money define our Bill of Rights? Or do the people of America define our own Bill of Rights? Suck my balls.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
by Fried Gold
Mar 9th, 2007
05:39:47 AM
A real gangsta-ass nigga plays his cards right
Funny episode.
by fireclown
Mar 9th, 2007
07:10:52 AM
Oddly, nobody has been actually discussing the ep. Which shows how insanely divisive and nerve-touchy the n-bomb is. Folks on this generally lefty board who are full bore free speech advocates and use the most vile vulgarity with regularity for the shock value of it all are mortified at the use of the word Nagger. That is the kind of dissonance that generates funny. Also, Cartman pretending to be hurt and getting up laughing at the wee one? Funny.
Where's George Carlin at???
by theonecalledshoe
Mar 9th, 2007
08:26:18 AM
Will Smith does rap? righttttt...Sure, he can hang with the heaviest. Honky and Cracker actually do mean something? lol. ...ah the questions For the 'N' word (probably be a show called that someday) won't disappear. It's stuck in dictionary land forever. It's recognized as slave when used by whites. Pretty it up with an a then it's a brotherly word between certain blacks. Screw it, either way. Oh and the tom cruise episode was cool. At least travolta liked it. This whitey doesn't use it.
I'VE HAD IT!
by Super Moo
Mar 9th, 2007
08:35:19 AM
You're All A Bunch Of Naggers!
re: anchorite
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 9th, 2007
12:52:09 PM
not sure why black people use it, but I think its just so ingrained in their minds to refer each other that, like I assume surfers still call each other "dude" or white people call their black friends "bro"...its kinda like tryin to make a group of people stop usin a common word such as "the"...thats my guess
Can ya'll Black folks just decide on one day
by The real Jack Bauer
Mar 9th, 2007
12:57:57 PM
just pick one G-damned day even 10 years in the future. Just pick it and after that date I can stop being pressured to feel guilt for not owning all you 3 generations of NON-slaves, I and my 3 generations of family haven't owned.!!!!!!
re: the real jack bauer....
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 9th, 2007
01:43:08 PM
um......?
Okay, I'll bite....
by shellfishh
Mar 9th, 2007
02:03:23 PM
To answer the question posed above.....as a White male Jew, it is an interesting experience. Because I am not very religious, I spend most of my time as a white male. And only occasionally think of myself as Jewish.

There are occasions (pretty rare, actually) when I come up against prejudice and it makes me feel pretty bad, but I am still aware that it isn't nearly as bad as it is to be black in America every single day.

Oddly enough, it was my two years in Japan that showed me something. I came back and was talking to two black co-workers, saying how weird it was that the seat next to me on the train would be the last one anyone would sit in. How Japanese clerks would follow me around the stores like I was going to steal something.

That was the black in America experience.

But being Jewish and White, I know for a fact that there is not one single word, not Cracker, Honky, Ofay, White MotherFucker, NOTHING, that makes a white person feel like the word 'nigger' makes a black person feel. Or 'Hebe' for Jews.

Jesse Jackson was recorded on tape calling my hometown of NYC 'hymnie-town' so fuck him.

Saying 'the n-word' is retarded. Say the word or use a more intelligent way of getting around saying it.

Whew. Thus endeth the rant.

LARRYTHECABLEGUY...
by Napolean Solo
Mar 9th, 2007
02:42:21 PM
Is the funniest person on this thread. It's hilarious when you rant on saying no one owns you and you can say what you want. PLEASE LARRY... 'Typing' and 'Saying' are two different things. Okay, I tell you what, run outside and shout 'The N Word' in a bunch of black folks face. Not 'Nigger', literally 'The N Word'. Let's see how much no one 'owns' you. Don't type it, talk it. Funny dude.
Billyeveryteen... Race war?
by Napolean Solo
Mar 9th, 2007
02:45:24 PM
Like your style buddy, Like your style. Now do me a small favour, literally say it on the nearest street to the nearest black person you see, but first say goodbye to your loved ones. One severly beat up white dude, a race war doth not make.
The Real Jack Bauer...
by Napolean Solo
Mar 9th, 2007
02:49:14 PM
Your mother should never have had a child with her brother. Hope that answers your question. I'll be here all week.
Remember...
by Dataset
Mar 9th, 2007
07:14:17 PM
A while back some Washington DC mayoral aid was forced to resign for using the word "niggardly", which means nothing like what it sounds like.Now, which way should we look at that? Using a word that sounds like a "bad" word should be punished? Or should we be mad that whoever made him resign was reinforcing the negative stereotype of blacks having limited vocabularies? http://tinyurl.com/ln54b
Napolean Solo
by The real Jack Bauer
Mar 9th, 2007
07:22:57 PM
simple concept, ...personal responsibility..I take responsibility for my own actions. I do not take a victim mentality every time something does not go my way or I don't get what I want. I've done nothing to oppress yet am bombarded with intrusions to make, or better yet "commmmpensaaate" for perceived injustices to those that have arrived here some 100 plus years after a blackmark in history. since your here all week, how's 'bout coming up with an intelligent response in lieu of kindergarten name calling, are you capable? Or will you take a victim mentality approach?????? Kneel now
re: shellfishh
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 9th, 2007
08:23:54 PM
that was a good post...especially how it relates totally to me...Im black and Japanese, so I got the problems here in my citizen country and problems go to visit my "motherland"...now think bout how I feel not bein totally accepted in neither of my two countries...
mr ahole ramirez - you're accepted here
by just pillow talk
Mar 9th, 2007
09:14:37 PM
Irregardless of skin color, cultural background, religious background - everyone is an asshole in these TB's. Carry on...
Arrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh!!! Just PillowTalk...
by anchorite
Mar 9th, 2007
11:12:09 PM
You used the "i" word..."irregardless"! It's supposed to be "regardless", or "irrespective". Irregardless is a malapropism. I know, a lot of people say it (or write it) nowadays, but it technically isn't correct. AICN isn't a formal setting, so most people don't give a shit if they use proper grammar or spelling. But just in case you ever find yourself in one of those "formal" settings and you want to impress those around you... hope I didn't offend...
"Good times with weapons" non-topical?
by tbransonlives
Mar 10th, 2007
01:22:07 AM
Watch the end of the episode again. It was about everyone,media and public, making a big deal about Janet Jackson's tit and not caring about the violence on tv.
Anchorite fighting the good fight...
by adeepercut2k
Mar 10th, 2007
02:22:16 AM
Irregardless reminds me of the now popular proactive. "I'm so active I'm gonna be actively-active." I guess using words like anticipate/ion and foresight just isn't snappy enough anymore.
no such thing as racism
by aleeminator
Mar 10th, 2007
11:55:46 AM
I'm sure matt and trey will prove that racism is just a hoax, kinda like global warming
racist???
by rdsxfan8
Mar 10th, 2007
03:09:18 PM
I own a colored tv does that make me a racist?
This episode is a great example...
by mraig
Mar 10th, 2007
04:50:21 PM
...of Matt & Trey's world-view. Which is: when people who represent a more or less valid position get too carried away with it, often to the point where they are just as ridiculous and incorrect as the people they're opposing. Or, to put it briefly: people who have strong feelings about something are stupid. So in this episode, there seem to be two messages. First, that the hateful reaction *against* people who do something racist (e.g. Michael Richards) is not really that different from racism itself. (The rednecks calling Stan "nigger guy" stand in for over-the-top, "I'm so open-minded I hate you for not being open-minded like me" liberals). But the second message essentially parodies the first message: while I bet Trey & Matt do believe that the overreaction to Michael Richard saying "nigger" or Ann Coulter saying "faggot" is ridiculous, they are also making fun of the idea that all of a sudden we need to feel sorry for *white people* just because people are racist against them for being racist. Because, if there is one strong position that Trey & Matt actually do have, it's one against censorship: words are just words, and the bad of trying to control what people are allowed to say and think outweighs any good that censorship might accomplish. Of course, by being so dogmatic in this stand against dogmatic positions, they are sort of paradoxically hypocritical - but what are you going to do? It's just a fucking cartoon.
Sorry
by mraig
Mar 10th, 2007
04:52:44 PM
The first sentence of my first post doesn't make sense. If anyone actually cares, they can pretty much figure out what I mean though.
All Too Typical AICN Talkback
by DeeJay
Mar 10th, 2007
09:09:56 PM
If nothing else, this talkback supports the notion that those who insist on using a term they know *millions* of people find offensive, they're unlikely to be great thinkers. Still, as a colleague once told me, people have the right to be as ignorant as they so choose. I honestly wish more AICN talkbackers (save the numerous 12-year-olds posing as adults) would spend their time posting comments rooted in their unique talents and expertise. Those talkbacks are at least interesting. This one, however, is a slow train wreck that’s become a blemish on the mammalian collective.
Ahem, Solo and Sith...
by Billyeveryteen
Mar 11th, 2007
05:05:52 PM
I was mocking Cartman. Ever watch this show? Or even this ep? You do realize, he's the ignorant prick.

Sorta' like dipshits who post, without regarding the source.

Vern?
by bobsullivan
Mar 11th, 2007
10:08:05 PM
Who is this Vern guy? South Park isn't funny? Nigga and Nigger are different words? Matt and Trey are provoceteurs, but I missed the part where they are "pretending to be shocked and victimized". The only commentes I really remember them making at the time was that it was hypocritical for Isaac Hays to be complicit in making fun of every other religion for 7 years and then to quit when it was his religion. You know what? They're right. It was hypocritcal. As to offending Tom Cruise -- you have got to be kidding me. Scientology absolutely deserves to be made fun of because it's a load of crap made up by a science fiction writer and it's a for profit enterprise that steals people's money and gives them only lies in return. "Is it any more retarded than the idea of God sending his only son down to die for our sins? Is it any more retarded that Buddha sitting beneath a tree for twenty years?" To quote Stan in "The Return of Chef", "Yeah, it's way, way more retarded".
anchorite - I'll try my best
by just pillow talk
Mar 12th, 2007
06:24:14 AM
IRregardless of the situation, formal or informal. :-)
Bobsullivan...
by DeeJay
Mar 13th, 2007
06:56:23 PM
... I can appreciate your argument, but Hayes was actually not being hypocritical. This is because Stone and Parker *had* made fun of Scientology years earlier, in a short they made for the 2000 MTV Movie Awards. With that said, either Stone and Parker couldn't recall this when they levied their accusation, they somehow didn't believe that such animated shorts "counted" (which would make absolutely *no* sense), or they were lying. If it was the later, where's the hypocrisy? In the claims of a man who says a particular parody went too far, or in those of a dyad that promotes its show as a bastion of straight talk, yet would release a public statement they know is untrue.
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