If this movie doesn't have you by the balls yet, you're not paying attention.

I really can't wait to see this one.

See, that just doesn't work.

Pics look fantastic! I just can't wait for this movie.

I have been wracking my meagre brains (what else am I going to do - work?) and this is the best I can come up with. I don't know too many metalheads, though, so it's hard to know when this question might be asked.

Thanks for the tip, just pillow talk. I see where you're going, giving the word some new and flexible meaning, like 'shiny' in that Firefly malarkey, maybe. I'll give it a go, but if anyone looks at me funny I'm blaming you.

Fair enough....I'm sure you won't get too many funny looks. I'm quite sure.

As mah dear old daddy used to say: "Always remember, young Frank, it's better to be too Venomy than too silver!"

Why ganymede, did a dog take a crap on a transformer now?

I'm surprised it's still up. Then again, SM3 is only 3 months away.

BTW - Can someone find the article where THC (or was it KD again?)spilled the beans on the Uncle Ben thing? I wanna see Frijole eat his shorts.

Ok, ok, having a little too much fun. Personally, I would be really curious to hear someone at Marvel give an honest explanation for this. It seems... I don't know, a little weird. I always thought of Captain America as a bit of a joke, I liked the way some writers handled him, like in MARVELS, but most of the time I thought: Here's a symbol of America as a big blue-clad clown running through the streets of New York beating up drug-dealers, and oh yeah, he's a COMIC BOOK ARTIST in his secret identity. Seriously. I know we're not supposed to think "but in real life--" But, in real life, someone would just shoot him. He's not invulnerable, he doesn't have a spidey sense, he can't outrun a bullet. And where the shit was he on 9/11? And did he go to Iraq? Maybe the editors killed him to express some clandestine, disgraceful anti-American sentiment, and right now they're chuckling to themselves and reading Marx and trying to figure out some way to help Al Qaeda, but I think it's much more likely that as editors they probably found it more and more difficult to sell a character that seems less and less plausible. I don't think Marvel is too un-American for Captain America, I think maybe Captain America is too American for America. Right now, anyway. Does that make sense?

S-I-C-K!!!!

The real difficulty must lie with the writers, because the world, and America AREN'T as small or as simple as they once were, as concepts that can be so easily distilled as "red and blue ink on paper". Much of what America stood against in WW2 can now be found within itself, America has become so complicated that it is more than one thing at the same time now. I believe that everything that America stood for, everything that made Captain America more than just ink on paper is still here, but I also believe that there's something else at work, something that corrupts the idea of a Captain America at it's core, and renderd the icon inert at best, ridiculous at worst. I'm not saying the writers at Marvel should have killed him off, I'm just finding it pretty easy to understand why they chose that option. Maybe it was the wrong one, or maybe it was overdue. Who knows.

I could live my whole life without a comic book company trying to overexplain why some comic book published in the 40s has some narrative co-existence with a comic book published 40 years later.

with jihadists dancing around his body, burned and dragged through the streets of Baghdad, cuz that's where he would have been, right, as he was a soldier and America is always right, and he would have been 100 percent behind the war ion Iraq...blah blah blah. I never should have gone there.

But hey, how about that Venom?!

It was an issue of Amazing Spider-man (Vol 2 #36 "Black Issue"). Captain America, Thing, Wolverine, Spider-man, etc were on hand helping the firefighters save lives. Even Doctor Doom and Magneto stood in the crowd and looked on with tears of sorrow and rage at what the terrorists did.

Many comic book fans hated the issue, but I thought it was beautifully done and completely respectful of all the innocent lives that suffered and were lost because of some political/religious zealots' hate.

I have not read a Captain America comic book since 1976. I have never met him, and should not make any assumptions about the quality of his character. I also should be speaking ill of the dead, or soon to be dead. I should thank him for his service to our country.

Cap, can you forgive me?

A fellow citizen, Bronx Cheer

That is all.

Sorry, couldn't resist..and I missed the pics so I'm bored.

Any links to the pics on another site?

How can they just kill off Cap with a damn Sniper!!

If they kill him off, do it appropriatly, last book of the War thing they have right now, he dies to protect something, but in style, with some meaning.. Not a Freaking recreation of a Marky Mark movie (Which ressembles a lot, no, is copied right off of the one Keenen Ivory Wayans did called "Most Wanted" in 1997)!

This shows you how uncreative Marvel has become. Everybody know Spidey, they changed the costume, big thing going on about Superhero vs. Superhero.. Blah... I'm happy I stopped collecting these back in the 90's... They've become the worst storytellers ever since Quesada and the Arad took over...

Killed Cap.. bastards!

Extract from the CNN site - Quesada said he wanted to readers find their own meaning in Cap's end. "There is a lot to be read in there. But I'm not one who is going to tell people, this is what you should read into it, because I could look into it and read several different types of messages," he told CNN. - End quote

Which translate into: "I have no clue why we did it.. We just wanted to kill someone off, and sell more books like DC did when they killed Superman. Expect our hero doesn't die to save the world, oh no! None of that crap! We kill him off by a sniper. We have no imagination what can I tell you! Hell after the Spidey movie we decided to give him organic WebShooters in the comics too, because well.. euh... because .. euh... Well, let's just say we like to fuck around with our most precious characters that stood for something for so many years because the movie made millions, so there must be something to it right??" - End of translation.

Marvel's dead... No soul into that company anymore. As tacky as Stan Lee is when he talks about comic book heroes, at least he stood by the characters and would not change things around just to sell a book. He got the writers and artists to push themselves to get a good storyline out. not go for the easy way out. "Kill someone! Easy sell!". Oh where are you Stan when we need you!

Well, now that Cap is dead, I just hope they don't ressucitate him in two months to sell comics again. They made a decision, hope they live with it and keep Rodgers dead, bringing him back to life would be demeaning to the character, just like trying to bring back Colossus to life after he gave his for the Mutants.. Oh wait.. they did that already didn't they.. Lack of imagination is what keeps this industry alive I guess...

The hell with Marvel!

As for the assassination perspective, I do see your viewpoint. But let me ask you this, what has been happening in the Captain America universe? Is he universally loved by the common folk? I remember he setup a hotline a long time ago so that he could help all of America. Is that still the case? Would anyone care if he was assassinated with that Civil War stuff going on? Cap's main villains have always tried to destroy him ideologically, trying to strip away his heart, soul, and beliefs in freedom. So I can see your assassination point of view if the American public loves him.

zb.brox - In that context of the events that led to Cap being whacked, I can see it. I still think it was a stupid idea to have him killed off (for now), but I will give you the fact that he was standing up against 'the establishment', and in fact did die for something. I'm sure Cap will be back with Bucky before you know it. Stupid.

Abom, just watched the first one last night again, and I'll be throwing in the 2nd one in again at some point. I'll probably watch both of them again a couple more times to get me all cheadled up with venomy goodness for the third one.

i have to say it fuckn sucks that Captain America went out like he did...the greatest soldier ever gets sniped...fuckn bullshit if u ask me. i guess marvel doesnt care about the character enough to give him a fitting end. if they wanted to kill him for some reason, he should have gone out in civil war...think it would have been more poetic for him to go out instead of the disappinting end we got...yeah cap surrenders...wow..brav-fucking -o marvel.

i enjoyed civil war for the most part except for the lame finale like i mentioned above. i dont get how you have all those superheroes fighting and who dies? a C-list hero and 4 D-list villains who havnt been seen since the bronze age of comics. one question...is spidey back in a black costume now? and i agree, fuckn kill Stark for turning into a grade A asshole.

just got back from the midnite show for 300 and i for one fucking loved it. it had some great energy and was loaded with bad-assery