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Warners Spinning Up A Live Action JUSTICE LEAGUE Movie!?!? With Writers Already Hired, 'Twould Seem So!!

Yes!! by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:39:06 AM
And I broke it first.
And... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:39:46 AM
I can confirm that by referring everyone to my post in the Silver Surfer/Empire TB...
And also... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:45:11 AM
What's this do to the Flash and Wonder Woman movies? WW is up in the air, I know, but I thought Flash was moving forward...hmmm.
But as long as it's got Green Lantern... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:46:52 AM
THAT'S what's important.
OK, I KNOW it's not Ghost Rider... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:47:32 AM
But does anyone else want to comment?
Abin Sur...I hope you choke to death by Overgod	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:48:02 AM
You worthless arab pig. I rub Allah's face on my unwashed ass crack, you pig dog of a rodent.
Overgod, you're quite the comic buff... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:49:59 AM
Since Abin Sur is who gave Hal Jordan his ring. Not that it matters one bit, but I'm as white as rice, and you're brilliant.
That failed pilot is awesome by smellmycheese	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:50:51 AM
in a shit kinda way.
please please please. And its gotta have Bat and Supes by modlight	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:53:00 AM
It's a cheapshot if it doesn't. Who cares about the properties. dC has proven they can do the characeters right if they try. Now just add some more and a big villain.
I saw that pilot... by stones_throw	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:55:41 AM
...when I was about 10 years old, expecting a big-screen version of the comic book JLA. Needless to say, I was disappointed.
POOR WHISKERS!! by Datascream	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:57:09 AM
Someone call the JLA, a wind is picking up and it's blowing paper plates and cups around! EVERYBODY PANIC!!
I hope that by QuinnTheEskimo	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:01:31 PM
this is the most balls-out awesome action film ever. Get Bale, get Routh, cast the other fucking roles, give it a tremendous budget, shoot a back-to-back-to-back trilogy ala Pirates or LOTR, and pit them against fucking DARKSEID.
This TB rules by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:01:39 PM
It's already starting off soooo good.
man that pilot was funny as all get out... by Lost Skeleton	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:04:25 PM
I can't escape a raging storm without my Whiskers...who was actually save under the damn rock. Plus...the Flash can't get a job and no one will let him stay at their house..classic crap.
How about a KINGDOM COME animated flick... by KnightShift	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:05:25 PM
...from Timm and Dini? I'd rather see that happen than a live-action Justice League movie.
Alright by QuinnTheEskimo	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:06:27 PM
Now that my brief bout of optimism is out of the way, I'm ready to admit that no matter how hard I wish for this to be an amazing spectacle of fantasy filmwork, it will probably be the shittiest shit that anyone ever shat.
Who will they cast for by SympatheticDevil	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:06:49 PM
Wendy and SuperMarv? They will never put enough into this to make it good, so they might as well aim for over-the-top stupid.
And yes by QuinnTheEskimo	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:07:30 PM
that pilot is so amazingly, laughably bad that it must be watched.
Wow, do they all have back problems or something... by PurityOfEssence	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:07:47 PM
'Cause those hero posses look mighty uncomfortable. God damn this is a terrifying prospect - most writers can't manage one hero...
How bout' by sleepy holloway	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:09:23 PM
a remake of the superhero celebrity roasts they had back in the 70's. Talk about shit!
... by mr ahole ramirez	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:09:44 PM
This will never happen (especially wit Batman, Superman, WW, and Flash in it) and if it does it will suck to all the whinin fan boys out there....what Doom not from Latavia?...organic webbing?...Constantine's not English?...and various other nitpicks fan boys have...
Doom by Ky-El	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:11:25 PM
Doom WAS from Latveria in the movie you ass.
Somebody gets paid to write these? by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:13:54 PM
I'm always surprised when I hear about a project like this or a couple of years ago when everyone claimed that we would see literally see a "Batman Vs Superman" movie before either of them would get another shot at a franchise. They even claimed that Andrew "What the fuck ever happened to that guy who wrote Se7en" Kevin Walker. Obviously that never happened but I'm sure Laura Shuler Donner has a complete script or scripts that she paid a king's ransom for that will never see the light of day. Are there really Hollywood writers who would rather write an unreadable (and possibly literally never read) screenplay that they absolutely know will not make it to screen just for money? Even if you're a complete douchebag wouldn't you rather hold out for something that, say, actually will make it past the "Hey let's make a JLA movie that involves a number of esoteric comic book characters that are unfamiliar to the general movie going public and have proven themselves for DECADES to not be strong enough to warrant an origin film" stage. Seriously, I think we all remember when Sandra Bullock was definitely going to play Wonder Woman and DiCaprio/Cameron's follow-up to Titanic was gonna be Spiderman, and ofcourse I'm sure the 4 million dollars that Tim Burton was paid to NOT direct Superman has been long spent on his hair wax addiction. Bit you're seriously telling me that someone's gonna get cash to write about Martian Manhunter?
A JLA movie is fraught with peril by Jor-El23	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:15:50 PM
Moreso than the X-men in that the heroes is the JLA are huge characters in their own right. Kieran Mulroney did write for various Star Trek incarnations so imagine he's got some nerd cred but still, it's going to be difficult. I don't see it happening until after the WW movie is made. However, a JLA movie would be a perfect chance to spin-off Flash, Green Lantern and maybe even Martian Manhunter movies. It's exactly what WB would love.
Honestly by Screwuhippie	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:16:32 PM
I am at a loss to imagine how they could possibly make a reasonably cohesive movie with this many superhero's and personalities with a run-time of anything that would be releasable without totally ruining it. You would either have to assume your audience knows the superheros and their backgrounds or waste the first hour with watered down explainations. This is a movie that begs for a decent TV Series but will undoubtably be unleashed upon us as another Fantastic Four. oh well ...
stupid stupid stupid by THE KNIGHT	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:17:04 PM
stupid stupid stupid idea....
Like I said by QuinnTheEskimo	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:20:58 PM
The only way this will work is if WB sinks a shit-ton of cash into making it a huge fucking franchise. Which they won't. Fucking wankers.
Ha ha by beelkay	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:22:41 PM
That pilot was teeerrrrible. I say let them give it a shot, and if it doesn't work, oh well. We've always got the cartoon and the comics!
What will probably happen by darquelyte	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:24:17 PM
They will have aquaman, flash, wonder woman and green lantern, and at the end of the movie bale and routh show up for brief cameos to help save the day and join the team on an "as needed" basis before going back to gotham and metropolis. That way, they don't ruin the exposure of each franchise. How this will affect the on hold WW, and the slowly moving flash movies remains to be seen. Maybe they'll be smart and spin off GL in his own movie. No character in the justice league would look better on the big screen than GL and his glowing ring creations battling enemies across the cosmos. ~ÐL
If the characters really are strogn enough... by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:24:38 PM
to warrant an ensemble piece than why not do it organically like the comic did. Take existing firmly established characters and bring them together later. I'm sure this movie will have wierd contract voodoo that keeps them from using Superman and Batman (afterall, supposedly they can't ever even mention the Kingpin in the Spiderman movies even though it's the same goddamn studio and Comic company) so it will most likely be a collection of B-listers lead by Wonder Woman who, like I said, noone cares about enough anyway to actually watch her on her own. But supposedly they'll all be introduced, motivations and backstories explained, villains included, and this is all a better idea than, say, a Shazam! movie.
Warner's isn't stupid... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:25:20 PM
Any wonder that they announced this after seeing the numbers that Ghost Rider brought in over the weekend? JLA is really the only viable comic book team for DC and Warners to launch, and why wouldn't they after seeing Marvel properties making money hand over fist with fair to mediocre product? You're gonna tell me that Ghost Rider is more iconic than the JLA? Not hardly. Now Warner's can approach this movie two ways: the Tim Story directing approach, which will make them some money and guarantee a sequel or two, OR they can go the Sam Raimi approach and redefine the comic book movie. Just PLEASE don't let Bryan Singer launch this - I can't watch two hours of heroes lifting things.
Grant Morrison's NEW WORLD ORDER should be the script by SpyGuy	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:26:43 PM
Morrison's JLA #1-4 brings the team together, gives them a highly credible threat and features an epic storyline on a big-budget scale. It'd be perfect.
"...could be either disastrously awkward... by veritasses	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:28:00 PM
...or among the coolest things to come around in quite some time..." Yup. That sounds about right.
I'd be happy with by veritasses	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:29:16 PM
JLU getting renewed on the CN.
New World Order... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:29:50 PM
That was a good JLA run - the White Martians were pretty nasty villains.
People...THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! by zekmoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:30:03 PM
It's an April Fools joke a month and a half early. As cool as it would be, it would be equally expensive, and risk all the additional sub-characters stand alone movies. Watchman has a better chance of seeing screen time.
APACHE CHIEF!!! by RedwingsHoolihan	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:30:24 PM
EEEENUKCHUK!!
APACHE CHIEF!!! by RedwingsHoolihan	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:30:29 PM
EEEENUKCHUK!!
APACHE CHIEF!!! by RedwingsHoolihan	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:30:41 PM
EEEENUKCHUK!!
I wonder if ... by Screwuhippie	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:30:57 PM
Aquaman could talk to that shark thats always trying to eat Quint ... That could make for a good teaser trailer ...
THIS CAN ONLY WORK AS .. by hif4life	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:32:11 PM
AN ANIMATED FEATURE, OR MAYBE A CGI FEATURE, I DOUBT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MIX IN BATS SUPES AND WW WITH THEM REST OF THEM IF IS SHOT IN LIVE ACTION, BUT THEN AGAIN, THANKS TO GHOST RIDER, ANYTHING RELATED TO COMIC BOOKS HEROES WILL BE MADE NOW, AND HORRIBLY.... SCREW YOU MSJ, AND FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY!!! IT HAD TO BE SAID
Wonder Twin Powers Activate! by Zorak5	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:33:10 PM
Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel as the Wonder Twins. Weta does the special effects. Total Worldwide gross: $1.3 billion.
Advice for the screenwriters by longshot7	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:35:21 PM
Keep it simple. Don't overdo the characters. Movies like this can more often be clusterfucks (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) than good ensemble pieces. Stick to 5-6 main characters - like X-men. (I'd do Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, the Flash, and maybe Hawkgirl). Structure it similar to a Robert Altman ensemble film, with a couple characters interacting at any one time but keep the moments with all of them to a minimum. Think Crash or Short Cuts with superheroes. Study Alex Ross' series JUSTICE for a good example. Or Warners - option that property. Good luck. Need help, call me.
Guaranteed suckage by TORTURE PWN	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:38:57 PM
This movie won't get made.You thought the multiple villain formula was bad?Try fitting in backstories for at least five heroes PLUS the villains PLUS characterization PLUS action worthy of the characters.It's not impossible to do.Just impossible to do well.Would probably be Ghost Rider/Daredevil "good" at best.
Enough already by NachoNegro	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:39:50 PM
This is never going to get off the drawing board. The reality of the situation is this - we've already had all of the best characters. There are not many cool ones left - just a lot of minor characters that can't carry their own films. Marvel's coolest remaining character - Silver Surfer - is about to be bent over and brutally anally raped by Tim Story. DC only have one cool character left - Wonder Woman - and now that Wheddon is gone the smart money is on Diana Prince being violently skullfucked, before being showered in multiple facials and left writhing naked on the floor, legs akimbo, her only company being the sound of camera flashbulbs as the media document the loss of her virtue with glee. The only variable is which hack director will do the deed. Don't tell me about the Flash and Green Lantern - they are both secondary characters. The Flash can run fast? Big deal. You think Superman can't? As for the Green Lantern, all any criminal has to do is cover himself in yellow paint, and Hal Jordan can't touch him. Some superpower. Marvel have a couple of semi-cool characters left: but the only way Captain America will work is by having an origin movie set completely in WW2 with Red Skull, and that is never going to happen. as for Iron Man, I am cautiously hopeful following Robert Downey Jr.s casting, but lets face it a lot could go wrong.
Britney Spears is smarter then we thought ... by Screwuhippie	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:40:03 PM
By shaving her head she is setting herself up to play the role of Lex Luthor in the upcoming JLA movie ... as she heads up the Super Villians (or whatever they are called).
I know this is never gonna happen by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:40:33 PM
but someone is actually getting paid as we speak to pretend like it is. I understand devoting yourself to keeping at work if you're a writer or producer, but any child can tell this is a pipe dream, and not even a good pipe dream at that. But Green Lantern could anchor a film, Aquaman: The Movie isn't unthinkable, why would DC blow the heft of their hero gallery in one load like this? With Marvel's slow but steady (and steadily declining in quality) release of movies they could theoretically do a live action Avengers pic in a decade and people would at least know who they were watching on screen. Let's face it, the sheer numbers point to the fact that comic book fans do not make up the bulk of what Ghost Rider brought in last weekend, and middle America is gonna have no idea who Green Arrow is when he get s his, what, maybe 7 minutes on screen?
Who's saying it will be live-action? by Big Jim	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:40:51 PM
From reading that article it seems to me a lot is speculation. The only facts seem to be Warners wants to do a JL feature and have commissioned a script.
How is this blowing the "hero load?" by YackBacker	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:43:40 PM
I think doing this movie is a great way to launch more heroes movies from the DC universe. This is kind of what's happening with X-Men- you get the big cast of characters together for the team-up movie, and then you can go along and do your spin-offs. However, if they don't get Routh and Bale in on this, don't bother. Seriously, it's not even worth it.
Hmmm... by FilmNerdJamie	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:44:29 PM
If there really is a JUSTICE LEAGUE film made, I'd put $$$ down that Routh or Bale won't involved in any way, shape or form. I do recall Bryan Singer confirming Routh's contract is for 2 more SUPERMAN sequels, and there was nothing in the deal towards any JLA-type film. Ditto with Bale's contract towards the BATMAN films.
New World Order by Jor-El23	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:47:34 PM
makes the most sense even though we've also seen it in the cartoon version.
bout time by Raphman	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:48:22 PM
...
Yackbacker by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:48:38 PM
You really can't invoke the X-Men model as it does not currently exist. For all we know the Wolverine and Magneto movies are going to be the vapid over-produced fiascos that we think they'll be. As much as Ghost Rider blows it does not automatically dash my hopes for a quality Iron Man. If I see a terrible movie with 10 minutes of Wonder Woman, than why would I want to go see and hour and a half of her a year later?
Exactly right, Yack... by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:49:10 PM
If we hadn't had the "X" movies I don't think there would have been a real chance of seeing a stand-alone Wolverine movie, but we got "X" and now we're getting Logan in his own flick.
Odds are they'll... by TORTURE PWN	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:52:35 PM
substitute Captain Marvel for Supes & Wildcat,the Question or Batgirl so as not to TAINT their current franchises.
Odds are they'll...(EDIT) by TORTURE PWN	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:54:15 PM
...Wildcat,the Question or Batgirl for Batman...
Couldn't Hollywood gear this Hero trend for more by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:55:07 PM
stand alone stories featuring superheroes and stop doing origin movie after origin movie? If Ghost Rider had foregone that 1970s Dan Ketch origin and instead filmed an adaptation of the '92 issue when his pure inhuman Ghost Rider self took on Skinner with Johnny Blaze it would at least have been kind of daring.
FIRST!!!!! by livrule	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:58:31 PM
.........Damn
What lame costumes. by boba_rob	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:59:00 PM
Looks like they rented them from Party City. When was this pilot shot?
Merrick, why did you have to bring up the pilot? by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:02:45 PM
It's hard enough to get people to be serious about this kind of franchise, and there you go showing the Cirque du Soleil JLA...
Pilot link really does give you the sense by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:05:51 PM
that this will automatically suck, I gotta agree. Still a waste of time, money, franchises, carreers, ink and the jungle that will have to be leveled to supply the paper for endless rewrites.
I am waiting for the Street Fighter Vs. X-Men Movie by DarfurOnTheRocks	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:10:06 PM
They could bring back the cast of Street Fighter: The Movie and X-Men. Raul Julia could be done with CG.
YUCK by SithScorp	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:11:47 PM
They can get Brett Ratner to do it... He did such a great job with the PoS X3...
Brittany Spears as "Braniac!" by Uncapie	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:11:56 PM
What's happening with "New Frontiers?" That was a great series! Though, if they put together a good story, JLA the Movie could be a ot of fun.
Who are these writers?! by Temeraire	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:12:43 PM
And why don't they hire the brilliant minds that penned the animated series? Dwayne McDuffie, Matt Wayne, Stan Berkowitz, and freakin' Bruce Timm?! Or maybe they're saving them for the thirty-seventh and final "take" on the script.
Chance of success 0.000001% by tile_mcgillus	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:16:49 PM
The only way this works. It starts out and the heroes are already developed entities. Like Jack Sparrow already had all this stuff happening when you meet him in Pirates and you follow flash or green as they get invited in the JLA. Then they fight something so big and awesome it would require all the JLA to beat it. Darkseid's invasion. If they do it with anyone but the accept players (supes, Bats, WW flash, GL, Aquafag and MM) and the actors that play them it will fail. Wait what am i talking about, this will NEVER get made.
Made or not, someone's still writing it by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:21:46 PM
and still getting paid, that's more what gets me. Hollywood makes crap all the time, but at least it's understandable because it's always safe crap. If they're going to take a risk of this magnitude, even just commissioning a script for it, why not be as ballsy with everything?
Me be filled with cautious optimism by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:23:46 PM
1. I'll be surprised if it gets made 2. I'll be surpised if it involves major players like Bats, Supes etc 3. I'm getting tired of having my hopes built up at the thought of DC blowing me away with live action when it always lacks when put up against animated series. JL animated and JLU set a very high standard and I struggle to believe they will match that standard.
WELL TICKLE ME ERECTED!!! by bouncing1	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:25:34 PM
my only issue is this- will it premier in canada two weeks before it shows in america like the tv series? if so then im moving to saskatchawan. or however you spell it.
ky-el...i am a donkey... by mr ahole ramirez	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:27:48 PM
yep, I admit it...but what was the whinin fan boys complainin bout? was it his origin? I forgot...besides it made its money so it doesnt matter to us whinin fan boys...
They hired who? by Captain Sensible	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:27:52 PM
This could be a huge movie which WB needs. Each character could/does have a movie franchise of their own. And they hire who to write it? I would rather see David Goyer get the job, and that is a massive concession from me.
I'd love to see this, but I doubt they would trust by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:29:10 PM
the viewers enough to make the plot big enough, and without over-explaining everything. For instance, it will involved a plot by a "realistic" villain and his completely ridiculous machine that wants to turn the whole planet into White Martians, and then we will have to explain what White Martians are, but they will probably just change them to Venusians with giant breasts, because White Martians doesn't test well, and it will all take place in the United States and an underwater base off the shore of California.
Kingdom Come... by Cuppa_Ace	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:33:38 PM
Is the way to go about this. Perfect story that defines heroes and why the world needs them. Go this route and you dont need Routh or Bale, we'll get a kick-ass lookin superman and some old guy to be bats. Make it styalized like Sin City or 300 and by that I mean make it look like a moving comic book, dont stray to far from the original script and boom, box office gold.
Do "The Brave and the Bold" with S & B first! by Xeniten	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:35:13 PM
While I would love a Justice League movie I think The Brave and the Bold makes more sense. Let's start off with the concept of Superman and Batman meeting for the first time on screen before introducing the full blown league. The Superman/Batman team-up is a major moment in comic history, it's a classic relationship. But this moment wouldn't be given the time it deserves in a League movie. Besides the League as a movie would really work better if the other characters like Wonder Woman and Green Lantern were coming from their own previous solo movies. So it makes sense to wait until they are made first.
by the way... by mr ahole ramirez	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:35:36 PM
Im no DC fan (I only likesy the Batman universe)...but I think I can recognise hundreds of its characters and I have no idea who she was...and Dawson's dad Flash costume looked so much better than this Flash...
oh and... by Cuppa_Ace	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:35:54 PM
For those who havent read it.... check it out! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K ingdom_Come_(comic)
I just hope that this is more Justice League Unlimited by Snookeroo	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:36:23 PM
and NOT Super Friends.
Anybody remember? by Ender's Jeesh	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:38:56 PM
Anyone recall a mid-70's TV version of JLA? I think it was called Legions of Superheros or some such. It was the height of awesomeness to this then 5-year-old boy in 1975. PLEASE tell me I didn't imagine it! Oh, and JLA movie will own unholy ass. Simon Pegg as Flash! Bruce Campbell as Batmna! And so on and so forth...
If we wait for all of these characters by Snookeroo	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:39:05 PM
to have their own movies first, a Justice League movie could start filming sometime next century. Here's hoping WB doesn't feel like each character has to have their origins explained.
Captain Marvel by Dave Bowman	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:42:26 PM
Why does Alex Ross always persist in showing Captain Marvel as a member of the JLA? I realize Ross likes CM, but he was a member for about 15 minutes, and never during the "classic" period Ross likes so much.
It's Time: Now What They Need To Do, Seriously by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:42:52 PM
Is skip all the origin baloney. I don't want to spend 45 minutes on how the team gets together plus ten minutes each on where the team members came from and twenty minutes on the villains' origins and five minutes on motivation for a battle and then twelve minutes on the climactic battle. Having a super-team means it's a superworld, and since we all know most of these characters already, and the idea of why they are teamed, we need zero introduction as opposed to 75% introduction. Make the movie about something; namely a story. Don't skimp on that.
I'd rather watch my mom getting raped by XXVIII	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:45:52 PM
because that would probably be executed better on film. This is a disaster in the making.
JUSTICE LEAGUE'S GOTTA EAT!!! by TheUglyBaby	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:47:11 PM
(__)__)
Now I'm going to be positive by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:47:28 PM
JLA big screen with characters such as Lantern, Flash, Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Bats, Supes. Giddy up horsey. Yessir giddy up.
LET'S CAST THIS BITCH! by ImJustSaying	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:49:39 PM
Not going to bitch, just going to cast: Superman- Tom Cruise Batman- Keanu Reeves Wonder Woman- Rose McGowan Green Lantern- Joseph Gordon Levitt The Flash- Dane Cook Martian Manhunter- Clancy Brown The Atom- Don Cheadle Yeah, they're not going to get Bale and Routh for this, and I really don't think they should. That said, it's a given that Bale rocks, and I for one can't fucking wait to see Routh as Superman again. He's my favorite Superman, for sure.
This movie is not happening anytime soon. by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:52:54 PM
They also need to recast Routh as Superman and make another good Superman movie. There is no way that guy can hold his own with Bale. Justice League will only be desireable if the next installments from DC characters are not crapfests. If they want to lead into this, they need to have a unifying feel in these films, which also limits some of the characters.
LET'S CAST THIS BITCH (easier to read)! by ImJustSaying	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:53:08 PM
Tom Cruise as Superman, Keanu Reeves as Batman, Rose McGowan as Wonder Woman, Joseph Gordon Levitt as Green Lantern, Dane Cook as The Flash, Clancy Brown as Martian Manhunter, and Don Cheadle as The Atom.
"Finding a job's impossible..." - HILARIOUS! by brokentusk	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:53:15 PM
Was this show for real? It looks BRILLIANT! Almost as good as JURASSIC SHARK (aka SHARK ATTACK 3: MEGALODON), which I watched last night.
And who to direct? by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 01:53:49 PM
Spielberg?
To Direct.... by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:02:51 PM
...Spielberg wouldn't be available, and would be less available to Warners. One direction to go would be Richard Donner but I don't think that would be wise really. On a certain level this is one flick were the likes of Michael Bay would actually have some merit but he would forget to any real emotion and humor and subtext amidst all the melodrama and snide remarks and propaganda. Andrew Adamson (Chronicles of Narnia) would play Wal-Mart straight and that would be a Superfriends film instead. Alfonso Cuarón (Children of Men, Prisoner of Azkaban) is my pic.
Fantasy casting? How about 30 year old by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:03:50 PM
Alec Baldwin as Batman. Same age Clooney as Superman, Salma Hayek as Wonder Woman, Dicaprio as Flash, Jude Law as Green Arrow, Colin Farrel as Green LAntern, Brad Pitt as Aquaman, Jim Carrey as Plastic Man, and a "Zemeckisvision" enhanced Crispin Glover as Martian Manhunter. Soderberg directs. All you need is the time machine
You know what, Pitt as Flash... by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:05:46 PM
Resurrected corpse of River Pheonix as Aquaman
As much as I love the JL by blindambition238	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:07:35 PM
I can only see this being a disaster. The one thing I hate about comic movies is the need to set up the charcters intros, which I know is a necessary evil; but can you imagine how they could adequately do this for the entire roster, telling a coherent story, and giving all the characters room to breath. Maybe, if this comes after they set up the GL, Batman, WW, and Supes with their own movies.
And out of curoisty TBer's... by blindambition238	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:19:25 PM
What if they did a JL movie in the Final Fantasy SW/ Advent Children style? Nay or Yay? I think thats really the best medium for any type of comic film, though I know some are put off by the animation. I remeber Harry suggested someone do that with the Ultimates, but as unholy cool the action would be it would be redundant since the books are cinemafied anyways.
CIVIL WAR WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER by supermarch	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:25:41 PM
Screw DC. Marvel killed them when Civil War started.
Fantasy Casting by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:25:56 PM
Superman: Brad Pitt. Batman: Edward Norton. Green Lantern: Guy Pearce. Green Arrow: Johnny Depp. Wonder Woman: Keira Knightley. Aquaman: Justin Timberlake. Plastic Man: Johnny Knoxville. (Some of these people I dislike individually, but think they fit together). Oh and... Martian Manhunter: Rikki Lee Travolta.
Warner Brothers Would Be Making A Mistake by Barron34	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:28:05 PM
Warners could make much more money by making individual films out of many of the JLA characters. If a second or third-tier character like Ghost Rider can make so much box office, so could many of the DC heroes in the JLA if done as individual films, and if the movies are done right and advertised well. Green Arrow, The Atom, The Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, even Hawkman and Hawkgirl could conceivably have their own stand-alone movies, even potential franchises. Why would Warners want to waste all of this box office potential by packing all of these characters into one over-stuffed movie, ie a Justice League film? ***Furthermore, a JLA movie would suck if it did not have the proper lead characters, from Superman to Batman to Wonder Woman. If Warners wants to make a superhero team movie, maybe they should make a period version of the predeccesors to the JLA, the Justice Society? It might be cool to see those old school characters together onscreen, and you would not screw up any other films, since the JSA characters really could not support their own films individually, unlike many of the JLA characters.*Another thing about the JLA characters is that many of them become more interesting by focusing more closely upon them. They are less compelling as an ensemble. Unlike the X-Men, the JLA is not really as much about the relationships between the heroes. It is more like an all-star team of many seperate and individualistic characters. Also, the previous poster who suggested making a Brave & the Bold Superman and Batman team-up movie is right on. Many of these characters are just too big to introduce together in one movie.***Green Arrow could be made as a gritty, crimefighting type of movie, Green Lantern could be made like a superhero science-fiction epic, the Atom could be cool as an Earth-bound high-tech adventure, Wonder Woman could be great as a straight-up adventure movie, especially starting in the patriotic WWII era, and so on. These characters have much more box office potential as individuals instead of as a group. Warners would be crazy to throw that kind of money away.
Justice Society now! by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:30:16 PM
I want Dr. Midnight, The Flash (in winged, silver helmet), Green Lantern WITH a cape(!), and Power Girl (with AMPLE boobage and cleavage. Humbug to this "Super Friends" supergroup. This'll most likely serve as testing waters to see who deserves their own movie. I don't see execs greenlighting an Atom or Green Arrow film any time soon.
Okay, as far as doing it properly by Javeyjoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:34:07 PM
in terms of writing (pacing etc.) you'd have to film a trilogy with the first movie dedicated to having them come together so that only at the very end of the first movie is the league created. Then you go apeshit in the second and third.
Another Idea by Barron34	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:34:33 PM
If Warners is dead set on a superhero team they could do better by making a movie out of either the Legion of Superheroes, or the Teen Titans. The Legion is really about the team more than the individuals, and the Teen Titans are also characters that would tend not to make stand-alone movies possible as individuals. In any case, I still think Warners could do much, much better by making stand-alone movies out of many of the major JLA characters, from Green Lantern to Aquaman to Green Arrow.
Older Casting by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:35:10 PM
For more of a Golden Age fast-forwarded to the modern era feel.... Superman: Sylvester Stallone. Batman: Robert DeNiro. Green Lantern: Kurt Russell. Green Arrow: Pierce Brosnan. Wonder Woman: Jodi Foster. Aquaman: Viggo Mortensen. Plastic Man: Treat Williams. Oh and... Martian Manhunter: John Travolta.
Forget the movie and concentrate on television by gusborwig	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:50:52 PM
Sure the movie if done well will make millions upon millions of dollars, but I think that by putting it on television they could have the upper hand. It would cost much less hiring tv actors than movie actors. You could use the superhero cast of Smallvile, and I bet it would be exponentally cheaper. The story could be streched over a period of years by selling tv seasons, instead of craptacular Special Edition DVD's. If anything Smallville has taught us is that effects are cheaper to do on a TV show and they can be used less if the story is done well. Not to mention, by putting it on a NBC rival network, they could possibly beat Heroes in Ratings, meaning more ad revenue. Warner Brothers would be smart to keep it on the medium of television.
The only way I see this working is... by Rakafraker	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:00:34 PM
...if they 'period piece' it. Either during the 'Golden Age' or far in the future (a la Kingdom Come). Abin Sur - Still waiting for my ring! When will they realize that there are HUGE GL fans KILLING for a decent movie? Also: Miguel Ferrer, why are you working in such schlock such as this unaired pilot? You have been the only good actor in so many crappy productions. Crossing Jordan must not be paying all the bills, huh?
Man Oh Man, The Fanboys.... by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:01:25 PM
...Are awfully concerned with the studio's profit margin on this thread, with how they can milk the fanboys in a duller, smaller, more tedious way. No thanks. Big film, great cast, amazing director, brilliant story.
They don't even have to make a movie... by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:02:18 PM
they've already captured perfection with that gem of a pilot. Just put that sucka on the big screen and it will rake in millions. Millions!
Space Oddity by Boromir187	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:02:20 PM
The rights to the Kingpin are not owned by the same studio that owns Spider-Man. The rights to Daredevil and the characters within the film they made are owned by Fox. The rights to the Spider-Man franchise is owned by Sony. Furthermore, Lionsgate owns the rights to The Punisher, which means the Kingpin can never show up in a future Punisher sequel either.
Ahahaha...hahahaha... uhhhh... really? by Reelheed	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:03:29 PM
April isn't for another month guys.
Now if they just cast Shia LaBeouf... by Javeyjoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:04:42 PM
as Martian Manhunter we are stylin'.
Profit margin is important by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:05:59 PM
I also want a 'Big film, great cast, amazing director, brilliant story.' which makes enough money to provide a sequel which has the elements 'Big film, great cast, amazing director, brilliant story.' which makes enough money for yet another and another and another. Give me quality and take my money, I'm begging you WB, take my money, please
JLA: Too many cosplay fetishists in one room by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:08:23 PM
This is going to usher in an era of Superporn. Spandex, pleather bodysuits, sculpted body armor, skintight shorts, nipples, capes, etc. All we need is Wonder Woman peeing on Martian Manhunter to fully make this the ComicCon Movie of the Year.
Villain Casting by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:09:22 PM
Michael Clarke Duncan as Solomon Grundy, Rosie O'Donnell as Giganta, and Andy Dick as the Riddler...oh, and a pre-weight loss Star Jones as Gorilla Grodd.
This is an interesting debate by YackBacker	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:09:23 PM
A lot of you are saying that WB would make more $ if they stuck to individual movies on these heroes as opposed to making a team-up flick. I think in the short-term there's something to be said for that, but if you look at the X-men movies combined (all three) they've grossed about as much if not a little more than the combined efforts of several Marvel stand-alone movies. I would also say, aside from Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, the economic prospects of other heroes having their own movies is not as strong as these Marvel characters. Newsflash, Marvel really has a more well-known, well-loved stable of heroes. I personally prefer DC characters myself, so I'm not biased in that statement. So, my point being that Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, etc. are probably not going to get their own movie anytime soon if ever. The Flash may get his movie, if they actually greenlight that project is not yet certain. And another thing that I want to point out- Let's say the JLA movie is actually pretty good- that would create the market for stand-alones including those secondary characters I would think. Within my point above is the main point- if they make a good JLA movie, the project is completely justified. Easier said than done? Of course, but if they get the right people involved to produce this thing, I am completely behind this project taking place.
But I also do not want by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:09:47 PM
a paint by numbers craptacular that pushes the most basic buttons whilst providing no depth or tension or interest while the studios rub their hands with glee, knowing that a film with all these heroes in will make a fortune.
It will be awesome if they... by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:12:46 PM
skip over any and all origin-story crap. I just want my heroes as heroes fighting crime - it's a given that they're there. Then, let the "Team-Up" be the League's origin and we're off! Thus, established heroes teaming up makes sense, as they've got history. I agree with the above poster, this needs to be a trilogy from the get-go.
So... by RetroActive	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:12:58 PM
how does spinning on the ground stop a hurricane up in the sky? Oh...wait...it doesn't. If that made it to TV, it would've been cancelled faster than the Black Donnellys. Man, that show looks bad!!!
Good day Yack by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:13:22 PM
'but if they get the right people involved to produce this thing' . . .ohhhh I hope so, then one of the few things left that I want to see on the big screen and enjoy can come true. I really am dying to hand money over to WB for this. I would even go large on the popcorn and drink
I'm in by Philvis	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:18:05 PM
If they do a core characters JL movie, I would be in for sure. I think WB would make sure this time they didn't screw up. If you can't get Bale and Routh in it because of contract reasons, or because they don't want to, get the two guys playing Batman and Superman from that World's Finest trailer thing. I could see them filling the roles pretty good. http://www.collorastudios.com/ projects/finest/finestmain.htm
I just hope these writers know the characters by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:22:29 PM
and what each one can bring to the screen especially when brought together.
One of the problems with doing a Justice League... by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:23:55 PM
before doing individual films is that the audience would not be given an explanation for their powers. In a comic book the audience will take a superpowered being as a given but a movie audience would not be able to suspend disbelief. This means there would have to have origin stories for half of the characters. It would be too much. I think Flash, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern all have a decent shot at well made films. Lets get those on screen and then go from there.
PLEASE, WHISKERS!!!!! by LHombreSiniestro	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:24:01 PM
Oh please Whiskers!!
Why there will NEVER be a KINGDOM COME film... by ErnieAnderson	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:26:27 PM
Kingdom Come depends on 60 years of DC continuity. It wouldn't work as a film. Besides, do you think you could fit the entire Kingdom Come storyline in just one movie?
DanielRoe by Barron34	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:26:35 PM
Some of us come to this site not just because we are genre movie fans, but also because we are interested in the movie business. That's b-u-s-i-n-e-s-s, ie, money. And even if you are a fan who doesn't give a damn about whether a movie makes money, you SHOULD care, since whether a certain type of movie makes money will determine if more movies of that type are made. So, if someone wants to see more DC superhero movies made, it is probably a good idea if a DC superhero movie gets produced, that it makes money. *****In any case, apart from being a bad business decision for Warners. I believe it is also a bad CREATIVE decision for Warners to make a live-action JLA movie at this point. A main reason for this is that a movie with that many major superhero characters in it could not help but to cheat character development for many, if not most, of the characters. Ultimately, a JLA movie at this point would almost certainly amount to a superficial treatment of the characters in the flick. It is perhaps better CREATIVELY if most of the major, and even some of the minor, JLA characters first get their own stand-alone movies, so as to introduce them and fill in their backgrounds. After this, putting these characters together in one big film will not require that each character have extensive backgrounds introduced, since prior films would have already done this. Also, I do not think that a movie based upon an individual superhero character must be "smaller, duller". This just demonstrates a lack of imagination. The proof is in the pudding, and any film based around an individual JLA character has the potential to be quite exciting, dependent upon whether the writing and the direction is smart and imaginative. Conversely, a poorly made JLA movie could just as well be a giant clusterfuck, like a Joel Scumacher Batman film, if it is made poorly. Your suggested casting ideas, frankly, are awful on this type of scale, I am sorry to say, and are indicative of the Schumacher-type of mindset. Seriously, a short, punch-drunk Italian guy for Superman? I'd like to know where you get your drugs, because they msut be something.
As long as they don't forget their newest member.. by Mr Incredible	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:28:20 PM
...HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN! Why even discuss it? This will never happen. You would be better off hoping for POWDERED TOAST MAN vs. SHAMPOO MASTER than a Justice League movie.
Too cheesy for Christan Bale's Batman by mparke2	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:28:37 PM
Justice League is a sweet concept, I always thought Batman didn't quite fit in. I believe they'd have to recast Batman and keep Bryan Singer far away from the director's chair.
Grant Morrisons "Rock Of Ages" should be the script by raiden23	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:28:40 PM
We don't need to be introduced to these characters - they are all well known. Focus instead on an epic, fast-paced story thats action-packed. If they hired Morrison to convert "Rock Of Ages" into a screenplay - it would far and away be the best super hero movie ever. In fact, it would be the greatest movie ever.
fuck justice league by misnomer	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:32:27 PM
WB should do the damn Batman/Superman script. Would love to see Bale and Routh working off each other.....would be much better. who gives a fuck about the flash or wonder woman?
JUSTICE LEAGUE SUCKS...BECAUSE OF BATMAN by iwontwin	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:33:00 PM
I know how it works in the animated series, I know how it works in the movies, but Batman is human. Sure hes got more brains than the whole Justice League combined, but won't he be their slow bitch?
I want to see a Dini/Timm Justice League Unlimited... by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:33:14 PM
direct to video. Now that would be interesting. At this point I think Warner Bros. are just examining their options. I highly doubt a live action Justice League will be made this decade.
Doctor Sin by Barron34	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:44:07 PM
I must respectfully disagree with you, and others, who feel that second-tier JLA characters like Green Arrow, or even The Atom, could not make a decent movie. I believe they could, given proper direction and writing. Ghost Rider is no one's idea of a top-tier comic book character, yet the movie did great box office in its opening weekend. To paraphrase a saying, there are no small superheroes, only small filmmakers. A well-conceived and well-directed directed Green Arrow movie couyld work. The idea is not to design it as a blockbuster, but perhaps as a gritty, more realistic story, with a tighter budget, perhaps based on the spirit of The Longbow Hunters storyline, and in the style of Batman Begins. Another example is the Atom. Of course, a shrinking guy could be somewhat laughable, but if executed properly, the Atom could make a compelling movie. Look at how Frank Miller treated the character in The Dark Knight Strikes Again. He took a minor character, and through smart and imaginative story-telling, made the character compelling. A key in this case was showing the extraordinary environment of the Atom when the character is very small. Instead of portraying the Atom as small, he portrayed the character's micro-environment as large and exotic. Again, there are no small characters, only small writers. A good writer like Alan Moore can take a character like the kitcshy old Captain Marvel knock-off character Marvelman, and turn him into the fascinating Miracleman character. A well-executed Green Arrow movie, or an Atom movie, or an Aquaman movie, is not out of the question. All that it takes is a good filmmaker and his or her team.
It wouldn't be done right of course by Ironmuskrat	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:46:44 PM
and by right, I mean it would have to have Superman and Batman in it, which it won't. So why bother, better to just have Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Women have their own solo projects.
Minor characters? by Philvis	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:49:18 PM
As a kid, I mainly read the Batman comics, but watched all the old superhero cartoons. I never once looked at Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Flash, etc. as minor or secondary characters. Look at the recent postal stamps, they have those characters on them, and I don't think they are going to make stamps of no name characters. I agree whole-heartedly that these second-tier characters, as some people refer to them, would be able to hold their own in a movie. As long as the right storyline and direction is taken, the sky's the limit for DC characters in my opinion. I would go see them. I still think that the DC characters are more iconic than Marvel ones. Besides the fan boys, who had heard of Ghost Rider...and look how well that is doing now.
i know many.. by restless_438	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:51:40 PM
that would love to see a JL movie.
Saw this JLA tv thing on DVD by ewokstew	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:52:10 PM
Wish I hadn't.
wow, those clips were almost as good as Power Rangers by Demosthenes2	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:55:00 PM
Why did CBS pass?
Fuck This. Why do we even have Hope for this Shit ? by DOGSOUP	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:55:27 PM
We're like battered wives to Hollywood's abusive husband, "Oh he loves us we know he'll change maybe next year maybe next year..." This. Will. Suck.
How many and which characters by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:56:08 PM
should be involved in this. Supes, Bats, Lantern, WW, Flash, Manhunter, Aquaman, Atom, Arrow. . .that's nine already . . .keeping down the number of characters could be the problem . . .don't want to suffer the X3 overload
With the succes of the X-MEN films and now HEROES...... by wackybantha	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:56:20 PM
...this just makes perfect sense that Warners would like to cash in on this Superhero worshiping era we are experiencing in film and TV. If those creations can work, then you can bet that Warners will find a way to make JLA work. In the immortal words of the great John Connor.."EEEASY MONEY."
Matt Damon as "ROM- SPACE KNIGHT!" by Uncapie	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:03:36 PM
Maaaaaat Daaaamon....
The difference between Marvel and DC by QuinnTheEskimo	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:06:16 PM
is that Marvel characters exist in a slightly stylized version of reality, while DC characters exist in a more epic, mythological reality. DC characters are like Greek Gods, Marvel characters are, um... I actually can't think of a good comparison now. Shit.
Bob Saget as Elongated Man! by Abin Sur	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:12:41 PM

the Success of Ghost Rider by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:15:59 PM
or for that matter Daredevil, or Blade is due to the Marvel stamp. The Problem is it's just not a stamp of assured quality. The Marvel movies, since the first Spiderman, have committed themselves to being pure origin stories and usually kill off or largely marginalize the most compelling antagonists they have to work with. But the average movie goer is showing up to the theater to see a movie, and the trend has been that every couple of months a superhero movie comes out with guaranteed action scenes and effects and usually a bankable celebrity or 2, so Jo Schmo has no problem plunking down cash for it. I'm sure that the same crowd would make this (presumably) terrible movie a moderate success. but does DC, after having such a quality success with Batman Begins and at least trying to do something more noble with Superman Returns, really want to just waste all of these promising stories (any one of these characters could in theory have a Batman Begins made about them) in one shot? Besides, as has already been said, the dynamics of the group are really not the focus. It is a group of regionalized individually established characters that periodically join forces to take on massive doom plots and villain conspiracies. this financially successful trend of "just add water" hero movies that Marvel has started will probably not last the making of this thing. On the other hand, when "Luke Cage: Hero for Hire" comes out to shit reviews and finally convinces the average movie goer of how disappointed they've consistently been with Marvel, DC can still be standing with a quality respectful new Batman franchise and, if this thing doesn't make it, a couple of other solid projects cooking. MArvel is cashing in their chips and will be a joke in 4 years. This is when DC needs to stick to the quality projects that have been their cinematic bread and butter.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT! by ballsmcretard	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:18:06 PM
BITCHES! The death and life of Superman. Doomsday awakens, kicks the shit out of the justice league (and that goofy one with like beetleman, the regular one) for about 20 minutes...then Supes joins in and saves the world and dies (Routh is a great Superman) - justice league mourns, funeral, then other Supermen start appearing...End of Part 1- Then Part 2 with the remainder of the story. Am I the only one who knows this is the only way it can work? Fuck a whole movie about the JLA discovering their powers.
at lease we have... by radjac33	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:18:54 PM
a New Frontier and Superman/Doomsday animated movie coming
Dont ruin the Batman franchise with this. by Cotton McKnight	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:21:26 PM
Batman has a very, very good thing going right now and I just can't see this working at all. Leave Christian Bale out of this one.
On the topic of financial success by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:24:39 PM
Are any of these movies even that successful? 50 mil is a lot for an opening weekend in February, but didn't the damn movie cost well over 150 when marketing is considered? It'll be toppled in 2 days by some piece of shit this weekend, so can these Marvel clunkers really be that promising to producers? Or do they seriously bet that one of these things is gonna hit Spiderman 1 money again?
Timm and Dini by Superclone	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:28:48 PM
For the love of god .. just give Timm and Dini a big sack of money and do an animated Justice League movie. If they were to get the talent back for it, they would kick so much ass in filling the need for a JL movie.
Barron 34 - good points by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:31:21 PM
Actually, now that I go back and look at the old Green Lantern/Green Arrow team-up comics I read as a kid, I do think GA could work in a modern, gritty environment. Well spoken (or typed).
MERRICK - I BROKE THIS NEWS IN THE FLASH TALKBACK FEB 4 by genro	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:31:51 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yof8yn. Seriously - I should be doing the DC/Marvel film news for this site. AICN would be on the cutting edge, once again, instead of the perennial bridesmaid. Almost 20 days ago, I told you what was up behind the removals of Goyer/Whedon. And one more you can bank on - if Del Toro wins Sunday, sayanora Deadman.
Timm and Dini by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:33:57 PM
never mind animated . . let them get their talented paws (as well as the other writing talents) on the live action. These guys have the feel of the characters
I'll let genro pick my Lotto numbers from now on by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:35:42 PM
This site is like rummaging through an old great-grandmother's dank cedar chest in the attic...and finding a pair of granny panties.
ps - I don't want Batman in JLA by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:36:43 PM
No - Bale's Batman is a Dark Knight. He's not "Superfriends" material.
Abin Sur - you weren't even close... by genro	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:37:53 PM
And neither was CHUD or the great Variety...jesus christ - I'm even the guy who unleashed the fuckin aborted JLA pilot on the 'net almost a decade ago.
Ryan Reynolds for Flash by BLWiseass	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:39:07 PM
its been said before, but i like it
Doc - always take 43 by genro	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:42:20 PM
bastard always seems to pop up in the mega games.
If this were my film... by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:43:19 PM
I'd have Bukkake Man, Ms. Boxcar, and the Pink Sphinc team up and violate some Brazilian strippers. But, it's not my film.
Timm and Dini by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:44:06 PM
Neither would probably produce a quality live action film. Not from lack of talent or understanding of the material, but whoever produced it would want the thing to be as mainstream friendly and by the books as possible considering the budget that this thing would carry. Those guys have a wonderful freedom in animation and strong quality control, but having to butt heads with producers while also keeping at a decent budget would just be impossible for any director to protect the no doubt epic quality of a JLA script either would produce without heavily cutting down on the character work both are known for. No director a JLA producer would pick would go to the mat to protect a solid script of this nature. It's just too easy to play the game.
Casting that would never happen by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:44:45 PM
I'd like to see Superman recast. Sean Bean as Aquaman. James Marsden as Green Lantern. I'd like Ed Harris to be Lex Luthor. The hook is that the plot by the bad guys has to be big enough that Superman can't handle by himself so he goes to round up the others and they form the League at the end. You get into personality conflicts as they learn to work together.
Doctor Sin, I think Chuck Austin already by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:45:47 PM
wrote that for you.
Space Oddity by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:46:39 PM
Thank you for ruining my dream (goes to sob quietly while grabbing a drink and cigarette)
I say kill Arad by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:49:03 PM
If his corpse were found in some ungodly condition at a comiccon, it would scare DC from trying to follow the Marvel model. Upside down crucifixion perhaps. Castration just to be sure, maybe?
I kill dreams by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:50:12 PM
I also kill producers
Good Vasting Superninja... by genro	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:50:45 PM
Bean as Aquaman is really good.
The overall plot of Rock of Ages is pretty good. by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:55:04 PM
All of the character stuff, though, is kind of stupid. Just my opinion.
Bah - the days of hard-edged gritty action are gone by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:55:24 PM
This would be some flashy, candy-sheened, lip-smacking, whirlwind of cotton candy confection with about all the danger, intrigue, and suspense of "Phil of the Future." Throw in a bunch of catchphrases and one-liners, dotted with filler ("Let's go!") instead of real dialogue. Now, have a couple of "sexual tension" pairings that inexplicably EXPLODE into meaningful romance, only to have someone get killed to provide some kind of superficial motivation. There, instant Hollywood action film.
SOLOMON GRUNDY GOTTA EAT! by briantag	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:56:47 PM
Britney can play Brainiac. She's got the ridged skullpan and crazed look in her eye. And I've been waiting to see The Wonder Twins and Gleep on the big screen. Get on eBay and snag up that '70s merch today, before it's really worth something.
Truth be told, I'd rather see a JSA movie. by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:57:57 PM
An adaptation of some of the excellent work Geoff Johns has done.
I'm always about the JSA by Doctor_Sin	Feb 23rd, 2007 04:59:52 PM
Two words: Doctor Fate. Okay, two more words: Power Girl.
Plot Scope Vs Character quality by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:02:07 PM
Why can't DC just compromise and give us the fucking Watchmen movie already . The character work is all top tier and yet they all exist and fit within a nice tight, yet epic story. I mean, they never had to do a "Rorschac: Issue Zero" to make you understand the character. Somebody feed Harry and co an old easily debunked rumor about that being made so they'll no doubt run it and there can be a decent subject to base a talkback on
A few clarifications as to who will be in this... by genro	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:06:01 PM
Brave & Bold 28 - Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, GL. Since Silver holds the Hal Jordan GL rights and cannot get a solo Lantern project off the ground, he'll get folded into the JL movie as a producer. As for director? There was a lot of hand-wringing that Bay didn't do Supes.
aquaman by hif4life	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:06:10 PM
im a fan of sean bean and i watch anything he does on screen, but i think he is too old for aquaman now... AC needs to be in his prime, myabe someone like ewan mcgregor (although i think he is done with movie franchise now) or a lesser known character actor would be suitable..
How about a Gotham Central TV series......? by Jimmy Jazz	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:09:24 PM
SOunds better and more economically viable than an overstuffed, megabudgeted JLA movie. I have always liked the idea of the weirdness of Gotham City seen through the eyes of ordinary cops. As long as you don't completely fuck it up ala Brids Of Prey. Throw in The Huntress and The Question plus some lesbian makeout sessions with Montoya, you'd have a cool HBO series. The Wire meets Heroes. Sounds good to me.
My favorite JSA characters are Black Adam, by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:10:44 PM
Hawkman, and Jay Garrick Flash. Hmmm...guess I like Wildcat and Sand, too. Actually, I'll tell you the characters I don't like: Stargirl, Power Girl, Jakeem and his Thunderbolt. Yep, those guy stink. I'd actually like a Hawkman movie if they tied in Black Adam and Geoff Johns's reincarnation storyline.
hello? by hif4life	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:11:03 PM
my last comment did not go through. what gives?
Gotham Central series would actually work. by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:11:44 PM
It's not too risky, and it will keep the fanboys on the hook to see if we get a peek of the Bat or which villain would show up next.
what about green arrow damn it by hif4life	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:13:34 PM
zatana,black cannery and the atom... those are good characters too
The Butler by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:14:04 PM
Someone mentioned Altman's character ensembles. Why not do it in the style of his "Secret Honor." The whole thing could be just the Butler ranting and raving into a tape recorder for an hour and a half. HAND THAT SCRIPT TO MICHAEL BAY!
I second the Gotham Central TV series. by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:15:28 PM
DC has tons of potential beyond just movies (although that seems to be what everyone is focusing on right now). Once you get into their Vertigo stuff then the sky's the limit. Hell Vertigo has a better record than HBO.
I too vote for Gotham Central by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:15:43 PM
A peek of Bats, Robin, Nightwing, Huntress, nice array of villains . . .all good . . .(as long as it steers clear of the teen drama aspect)
THIS YEAR'S LITTLE MISS SUPERPOWERED SUNSHINE!!! by Err	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:17:07 PM
No offense, but if Warner Brothers is looking to a Justice League movie with a bunch of big name actors, a big story, CGI for the powers and stuff, they are gonna have to shell out a ton of dollars. This film needs to fill it's cast with some unknowns or semi-knowns and don't let Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, or any other sh!t director touch this film. And if they go through with this film, I better see Superman, Batman, Flash, GL, and Wonder Woman. And there better be some damn good known villains not lame ass alien threat from outer space or garbage like that. It should be Justice League vs. Legion of Doom or Injustice League or whatever the f*ck you want to call 'em.
Barron34 by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:19:22 PM
The point of Stallone as Superman would be to set him a bit apart and bring the other characters to the fore more. Height means nothing on a movie screen; that's a long established part of cinematography. As to moneymaking I have to think about that all the time and if you aren't going to make a good point it's boring. Getting off the topic of my "Mean Streets" JLA... Okay let's talk money. Kids watch movies not live action TV series so a movie, with better production, is a much better (and desirably shorter) commercial for a toy line and zillions of other products which is where the money would be made on this. Also, another money-side advantage to this type of bankable but not outsized ensemble casting is that you can make the team the star of this flick and still do the seperate franchises with different actors and look and therefore totally different toys. Mo money. Mo money from a movie, and a movie without the franchise stars. And it makes more sense with somewhat downplayed casting so that Stallone's Superman is not many people's definitive Superman. Or for that matter Ed Norton as Batman. The point of course is good actors and a coherent ensemble.
they should go for something entirely new by Evil Hobbit	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:23:43 PM
New story, new world but no introductions. Craft something where it is believable to have all superheroes of the dc world(s) united as a league. For example: they are united because men lives in a destroyed world after a nuclear war. JLA has been formed to help rebuild this world. However, villains see a chance to gain world domination and are trying with all there powers to obtain this dictatorship. Like almost every superhero premise it's a bit cliched but I think something like that could set up a great story with a new unique touch. You don't need an origin story because we start of straight in this post-nuclear world. It makes the tone instantly serious and not as cheesy as it so easily can be. It could realy use a Batman Begins touch. Very gritty, very dark, very mysterious and very action packed. I also believe a premise like this allows current actors like Christian Bale or Brandon Routh to reprise there roles. Yet it's an alternate world so it might indeed be better to just go for a new cast.
So how do we get Gotham Central by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:24:37 PM
set up. I like the idea of through the eyes of cops. Or how about Gotham Streets throught the eyes of people who live there. Some like the idea of heroes . . .some not Either way lets get this show made now.
they should go for something new by Evil Hobbit	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:26:12 PM
New story, new world but no introductions. Craft something where it is believable to have all superheroes of the dc world(s) united as a league. For example: they are united because men lives in a destroyed world after a nuclear war. JLA has been formed to help rebuild this world. However, villains see a chance to gain world domination and are trying with all there powers to obtain this dictatorship. Like almost every superhero premise it's a bit cliched but I think something like that could set up a great story with a new unique touch. You don't need an origin story because we start of straight in this post-nuclear world. It makes the tone instantly serious and not as cheesy as it so easily can be. It could realy use a Batman Begins touch. Very gritty, very dark, very mysterious and very action packed. I also believe a premise like this allows current actors like Christian Bale or Brandon Routh to reprise there roles. Yet it's an alternate world so it might indeed be better to just go for a new cast.
my (non-bank-breaking) cast by waggy	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:27:45 PM
Batman: Christian Bale Superman: Brandon Routh Wonder Woman: Eva Green The Flash: Ryan Gosling Green Lantern: Jamie Bamber (Apollo on BSG) Martian Manhunter: Doug Jones Aquaman: Eric Bana Director: Ridley Scott
huh double post? by Evil Hobbit	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:28:35 PM
Weird, even changed title before submitting. Oh well, excusi. Gotham Central sounds very awesome!
Gotham Central by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:28:57 PM
kind of only works when you have multiple hero books running concurrently. After awhile viewers ar e gonna get bored of watching cops talk about their family problems outside of an abandoned building while waiting for Batman to deliver the Joker. And waiting 2 years between Batman movies is gonna be agonizing with a weekly peripheral show
Zee, GA and Atom are all fine characters. by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:31:59 PM
That's why I'm actually for a JSA movie instead of a JLA movie. JSA is more about character and story and less about fanboys arguing about why Batman is smarter than everyone and why isn't Wonder Woman as strong as Superman?, ad nauseum. How I hate that kind of stuff. The public knows the JLA has at least Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and a GL. Would they accept other characters? Well, probably, but why even bother with semantics? Do a JSA movie and put the second tier guys on there.
wow, that was the first time I'd seen that pilot by finky089	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:34:29 PM
and holy shit was it bad. Guess I'm hitting the want ads?" Gimme a break! So bad, it's funny.
Spacy oddity, you just described about 99% by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:39:29 PM
of all cop shows on t.v. Gotham Central's superhero premise gives it novelty over the others, that's all I'm saying. Personally, I don't like cop shows, but I think it would be unique.
I'd rather they make a NEW GODS MOVIE!!!!!!! by Drath	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:40:17 PM
Forget this movie, it will suck because Batman and Superman, if they're in it at all, will barely be there. And if they are there, then it means the studio is going to shortchange future Batman or Superman movies. A combination movie translates to "they can't cut it alone anymore." It's the opposite of the Wolverine movie--which says "I don't need you boring X-Men anymore." And seriously, a JLA movie does make lone Superman movies harder because how do you not feature the Justice League in future Superman movies? If he's truly facing great challenges, why wouldn't he turn to the JLA from then on? I'd rather they make other properties first. New Gods would rule! And where the flying fuck is Aquaman? I don't care if some insecure dorks think he's gay! Steal Mike Turner to be the production artist, make it into a 300 or Lord of the Rings style fantasy epic with the war between Atlantis and the surface world (and Black Manta is a must for the villain) and you've got a kick ass movie! Wonder Woman likewise would be incredible with the Greek mythology and World War 2 for the first movie and a modern setting for the sequels (she's immortal, it's not hard). The Green Lantern is the easiest! Start with Hal Jordan, make him go down the Darth Vader route in later movies, have Kyle Rayner inherit the ring and redeem him in the end! Maybe the trouble is the keep thinking of these as crime-fighters who corner thugs in alleways? That's Batman or Spider-Man, but most of these comic book heroes have greater range than that. Why try to conform to the popular opinion of these characters anyway when pop culture thinks they're lame? Surprise them! Idiots are running the show at WB and DC. Any group that stopped Bruce Timm from making a New Gods production, be it a movie or a TV show, is just a fucking house of retarded apes. Forget this movie, it will go the way of Superman vs Batman very quickly. I only hope it's coming up now to light a fire under the asses of whoever is preventing these other properties from being made into movies. I'd say I want them to catch up to Marvel, but Marvel's movies are sucking. SR wasn't as great as any of us wanted it to be, but it didn't suck the life out of the property like some other adaptations did. And Batman Begins can only get better (though I dread the uncharismatic Heath Ledger as the Joker). DC is stumbling and it is rediculous!
The key to Gotham Central is never showing... by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:43:47 PM
the supeheroes. Supervillians are fine, but keep the superheroes out of it. There are a million police dramas out there, a great way to grab an audience would be some familiar villians. It would also be a nice companion piece to Batman Begins' real world asthetic.
It's be something... by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:45:20 PM
and time will tell... wait a minute, isn't this all entirely in theory? Anyway, it would be an interesting twist and has the real world sensibilities that would fit a television show well. I'm just saying that it would pretty much be NYPD Blue with a shit ton of DC gallery name dropping, and all the really interesting crimes in Gotham are usually handled by Batman. Getting the grit of the investigating and cleaning up from the cops pov is great in comic book form when you can then immediately switch books and see what he's Wayne is up to. I just don't know how well it would translate to a weekly show.
Gotham Central also might be a nice way of saying, by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:49:59 PM
"look, there's more to comics than just superheroes in tights." For all you business minded people out there, it's great synergy! Just about any of the Vertigo comics can be made into a TV series. Anyone up for Fables on HBO? With the exception of superheroes, who need scope, most comics actually work better in a serialized format on television.
Better than the shit definitely by Space oddity	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:50:01 PM
I'd give CSI: Gotham a chance. But a "Powers" show would be much better since the Heros/villains are created for their purpose in the story, as opposed to referenced for background texture as Batman no doubt would be relegated to in a Gotham Central show
If They're Smart... by Alen Smithee	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:52:12 PM
They'll bring in THIS guy: http://www.dwaynemcduffie.com/
Ten Bucks that GL is going to be Jon Stewart. by The Founder	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:53:39 PM
Not that I have a problem with Stewart, but he's going to be used for diversity as to not fill up the team with all white people.
Superman, Batman, WW, Flash, GL, Aquaman, and Hawkgirl by The Founder	Feb 23rd, 2007 05:56:33 PM
That's who I think they'll use. Batman may be out, so either Martian Manhunter or HawkMan. I'm 100 percent positive that Superman will be there.
I ever a 250 million budget was needed, but we can..... by The Founder	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:01:13 PM
THANK PHUCKING SINGER THAT WB WON'T GO OUT ON A LIMB WITH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AGAIN. WB is not going to shell out a budget that large again. They will be a little fearful and not to mention Legendary Pictures won't have to co finance, which also makes me think that issues with Supes being used a may be a problem. I'm no sure how the rites and stuff go. I know WB isn't like Marvel, where their characters are all whored out to different studios.
We should really nail down the list of characters by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:04:33 PM
Personally, I think we must have Supes, Bats, WW, Lantern, Flash and Manhunter. There are others I'd love to see as well though
The thing is, most of the cops in Gotham Central by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:05:01 PM
don't like Batman. rbatty is right, you never show Batman, unless you're in season 3 and about to jump the shark. It's all about the cops and how they have to pick up the slack for Bats, and how they either get caught up in the same thing (vigilantism, even the cape stuff) or how it ruins their lives and if they can survive it. It would be a companion piece to Batman in regards to Gordon's question about escalation at the end of the 1st movie. Gotham Central is about escalation and cops who are in way over their heads. It could just get crazier as the show goes along.
History Behind Stallone as Superman by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:07:35 PM
From IMDBs Superman 78 trivia page: # # After the success of Rocky (1976), Sylvester Stallone lobbied hard to play Clark Kent/Superman, but he was ultimately turned down. Stallone found out that Marlon Brando, who had casting approval, turned him down for the role, just as he had allegedly vetoed Burt Reynolds casting as Sonny in The Godfather (1972). (Responding to that rumor, Brando told PLAYBOY Magazine interviewer Lawrence Gobel "Francis [Francis Ford Coppola] would never have cast Burt Reynolds.") Stallone subsequently went on Merv Griffin's talk show and denounced Brando, saying he had no respect for the superstar as an actor or as a man. This surprised many as the early Stallone (as had the early Burt Reynolds) had clearly modeled himself after Brando, particularly Brando's characterization of Terry Malloy in On the Waterfront (1954) in his own role as Stanley Rosiello in The Lord's of Flatbush (1974), a man named "Stanley" (a la Stanley Kowalski in A Streetcar Named Desire (1951) who had a coop of pigeons on his tenement roof (like Terry Malloy). This mimicry might have been one of the the reasons Brando reportedly had such antipathy for both actors. Stallone later explained that he felt that it was hypocritical that Brando, whom stated on numerous occasions that he took the role of Jor-El simply as a paycheck and nothing more, vetoed him for the role of Superman. Unlike Brando, Stallone grew up emulating and idolizing Clark Kent/Superman (and continues to) as well as having a great love for the comics mythology. Ironically, in his review for the Stallone film "Rocky", Roger Ebert called Stallone "the next Marlon Brando."
CHRIS NOTH FOR KINGDOM COME KAL-EL by Mister Inbetween	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:10:56 PM
Please.
I like Jon Stewart now because of the JL cartoon. by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:11:10 PM
I'd cast Phil LaMarr in the part if there was a chance he could really bulk up. And by bulk up, I do not mean use roids.
CaptDanielRoe by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:12:03 PM
And thank god Stallone didn't get the role as it gave us Reeve who for me was perfect for Superman
I really don't want to see Superman or Wonder Woman by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:14:20 PM
on a team without Batman. Sorry! They will just find another character to play the Batman dynamic to the team, anyway. Make a JSA movie instead.
Agreed, Reeve Was Better by CaptDanielRoe	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:19:53 PM
As Richard Donner's Superman. But in the ensemble I described, I'd want Superman to be a really solid looking character, lots of lumps, maybe been at it since the dawn of men in capes. Gnarly face from bashing away generations of planetoids. But not a do-aller. An anchor, but not a father figure. Give the other characters like Green Lantern something to stand out against. They do the fancy stuff and the fast thinking, Supes rams onto the scene like a cannonball and clobbers the bad guys, incontestably best at that, but by no means renders anyone else redundant. That's what Stallone would do. Likewise Ed Norton (or as I suggested for opposite Stallone, Robert DeNiro) would also whip out the best Steven Seagal imitation with the chop-sockey, and scare people, but wouldn't render a Hawkman or an Aquaman on dry land utterly pointless.
Hey MrJJonz, right on re: GOTHAM CENTRAL by YackBacker	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:20:23 PM
Imagine if they did a $20 million budget movie like that? WB has so much potential for crossovers and tie-ins with DC it really is sad that they have failed to capitalize in it. And the movies only help boost the comic properties too. How many "300" graphic novels have sold since that movie has been made? I'm guessing a ton more than had been sold prior to that happening. But DC is so malnourished by this TimeWarner empire it really is sad. Ya know, now that I think of it, if they made a Gotham Central TV show, like THE WIRE, how fucking cool would that be? A genre WIRE. On HBO. Or wherever. (sigh) TimeWarner needs to get on the ball.
Others have mentioned this, and I kind of agree... by rbatty024	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:20:54 PM
but it would be difficult to have a live action Batman when all the other characters can use a superpowers. Maybe if all the stories were separate for most of the movie. Maybe they could have a superhero version of "Go". Green Lantern has to find some way to pay back Lex Luthor for all the meth he gave him.
Yack; I can't claim artistic merit by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:29:20 PM
Thanks for the backing but I can't claim invention of this idea, as much as I like it. The rogues gallery playing in a 'real world' police dept while Batman's shadow hangs over everything is quite a nice idea. Could even do it from the start of Batman (never actually seeing him) through the start of the rogues gallery though to weird villains becoming the norm. It's something I'd quite happily watch over a few seasons
Uh, because that's not Superman? by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:32:59 PM
That's not the character, dude. Sorry if I jumped in improperly and stuff.
Superman just by MrJJonz	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:35:43 PM
doesn't strike me as an unthinking beat the crap out of anything in his way kind of guy. Maybe Stallone as Bizarro
Batman just avoids getting punched and launches by superninja	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:35:59 PM
nasty little things from his toolbelt on them, just like in the comics. He doesn't need to be the fastest or the strongest, just the smartest. Anyway, I'd still like to see him get some ribs broken, 'damn Deus Ex Batchina!
EARTH TO spazninja Superninja by The Advance Guard	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:39:22 PM
What planet are you on?
Superninja is right godammit by MrJJonz

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