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First! by TylerDurden3395	Feb 21st, 2007 08:25:36 AM
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FIST! by TheTagger	Feb 21st, 2007 08:32:21 AM
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First! by FudgeKnuckles	Feb 21st, 2007 08:32:47 AM

I have a nomination for the @$$ies by Mr Incredible	Feb 21st, 2007 08:37:22 AM
For latest book on the market: Ultimates Vol. 2 # 13. Scheduled to come out in November; it's now six months late. Good work, Marvel.
I bought the Nextwave trade last week. by rev_skarekroe	Feb 21st, 2007 08:45:39 AM
It was good. When is the volume two trade coming out?
Also by rev_skarekroe	Feb 21st, 2007 08:46:32 AM
Someone needs to do a trade of the Hulk Crossroads story from the '80s. Are you reading this Quesada? No? Well screw you then!
Sadly, I'm Bradley by ErnieAnderson	Feb 21st, 2007 08:49:39 AM
Brad, the guy who dreamt up DREAMKEEPERS, has been unceremoniously dumped by the other creator/artist. Hopefully, the future volumes will still be well-written.
Sure, Morrison's new Batman sucks, but... by rbatty024	Feb 21st, 2007 09:31:41 AM
I at least like the fact that he's trying something completely different. I think the review sums it up when it says that a good comic book writer does not a good prose writer make...or something to that affect.
Harry, you are an idiot... do research before blabberin by W3bzpinn3r	Feb 21st, 2007 09:35:56 AM
In the Thunderbolts write-up, you said it is led by Harry Osborn. Harry is still dead and buried. NORMAN, his father, is the one who has come back from the dead and is leading the uber-villain team.... ALSO, as for MJ forcing Peter to dump the black N white... It wasn't because Venom kidnapped her, because he didn't. He never has in the history of the character. Venom (so far as we know) didn't even touch her that night. What Venom did was wait in the apartment til She got home, then scared the living bejeezus out of her then interrogated her. After that, MJ forced Peter to change costumes and move to a new apartment because Venom had mentally scarred her. Back in the good days when Venom was an interesting character full of potentual. Not a squandered get-rich-quick scheme with bad (even by comic book standards!) writing.
H@ppy New Year, @$$hole$! by Doctor_Sin	Feb 21st, 2007 09:53:37 AM
Loved the "Morrison Batman" review - pretty much sums it all up.
rev_skarekroe by Immortal_Fish	Feb 21st, 2007 09:55:17 AM
You think the Crossroads stuff is strong enough to warrant a trade? Sure, there were a few rare highlights like the rogue soldier from Kang's future and I dug the slow reveal of the triad and puffball collective's modus operandi. However, most of the issues were one-shots that smacked of a time when they simply didn't know what to do with the character. In fact, I've grown irritated over the years how Marvel keeps plucking the character out of current events, effectively placing him on hold. It would have been interesting to see Banner's take on Civil War as he has more of a unique perspective. What was it about the crossroads that grabbed you?
I think BATMAN #663 is the universal balance to Bendis by SpyGuy	Feb 21st, 2007 09:58:08 AM
Brian Bendis catches a lot of crap for decompressing storylines that could fit into a single issue into six issues of one or two words per panel that take less than five minutes to read. BATMAN #663, meanwhile, seemed the complete opposite of Bendis because it's one of those books you need to sit down and concentrate on for at least 15-20 minutes. Unfortunately, BATMAN #663 was also horribly overwritten and bogged down in description, so I'm left to wonder if Bendis would have handled it better...
W3bzpinn3r, you are an idiot... do research before... by rev_skarekroe	Feb 21st, 2007 10:06:46 AM
...blabbering. Harry doesn't write these reviews.
1970s Ghost Rider by Blanket-Man	Feb 21st, 2007 10:08:28 AM
I thought the early run of GR (in the 1970s), up to around issue number 20, was pretty cool. Tony Isabella had some interesting stories in there, and it COULD have gone in a very cool direction if The Powers That Be hadn't completed shredded his original ending to that two-year story involving The Friend that saved Johnny Blaze on several occasions. Isabella intended to reveal The Friend as Jesus, and have Johnny go off to Hollywood, free from Satan yet still bonded with Zarathos (the Ghost Rider), and become more of a regular super-hero, maybe even start a family with Roxie. Instead, the editors changed The Friend into yet another Demon bent on getting Blaze's hopes up, and the result was a series of forgettable Blaze-on-the-run loner tales (especially from around #30 through 80) that could've been much more in line with the stories of that time that made Marvel great.
Good grief.. JSA.. GLC... by Thalya	Feb 21st, 2007 10:08:54 AM
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?..
Immortal_Fish by rev_skarekroe	Feb 21st, 2007 10:10:24 AM
What I loved about the Crossroads story is that it put the Hulk into such a bizarre setting. I'm a sucker for all that weird interdimensional stuff, and I love when they throw a character that doesn't normal get to have those kind of adventures into those kind of adventures. Hulk shouldn't be going to crazy alternate realities and other planets ALL the time, but it makes for a great kick in the pants every now and then. It's the same reason I plan on getting Planet Hulk whenever they collect that.
Planet Hulk has been fun by Immortal_Fish	Feb 21st, 2007 11:26:31 AM
I agree it is a welcome break to inject a character into a completely alien environment. Hell, I've returned to the early 90s Thing run post Secret Wars now and then. Plant Hulk is familiar enough to what you're jonsing for only much more textured and satisfyingly paced. It isn't light stuff that you can pick up on a whim and put your mind on hold, yet you should enjoy it at least as much as the Crossroads.
1970s Ghost Rider by brassai2003	Feb 21st, 2007 11:39:50 AM
Just played the GR trailer with Don't Fear the Reaper on itunes...ahh..the missed oppurtunity to make this an awesome 70s exploitation flick.
Bug, check out the original run of Ghost Rider # 76-81 by superhero	Feb 21st, 2007 11:53:49 AM
For some kickass Ghost Rider stories. These were the ones that introduced me to the character as a kid and, while it is the finale of the series, they include everything you need to know about the character and are some fantastic, fantastic early eighties comic goodness. If you can track down the issues in color because, while I love black and white books, the early eighties coloring of these books just adds to the intense creepiness of the art. These issues are the best GR stories ever and I remember when they tried to re-vamp him years later I wanted to vomit at the Danny Ketch...pathetic Friday the 13th syndicated TV series bullshit! JOHNNY BLAZE IS THE FUCKING GHOST RIDER BITCHES! TAKE YOUR "PENANCE STARE" AND SUCK IT! I have yet to see the movie but I am sure I wll loathe it...
Nextwave will Return! by Beeslo	Feb 21st, 2007 12:20:12 PM
This was one of those series that I was glad to be a part of. I remember one of the guys at Austin Books recommending it to me and I was instantly hooked. I gotta feeling somewhere down the road, Nextwave will re-emerge. As far as the most recent Spidey comics with him in black, its obvious that the explanation will be in AMS...thats a given. So you know its delayed, so I don't know why you are blubbering so much. Instead you should ask, why didn't they delay these as well? There were a couple of scenes in the Spectacular and Friendly that it appears that the writing had been recently edited due to the delay and therefore had to hide any spoilers. But whatever, the mystery ends today. Civl War #7 and ASM come out...and we'll see why he's back in black. My theory: MJ dies. Don't know yet, gonna go to Austin Books and find out.
Ghost Rider and other things that suck… by The Heathen	Feb 21st, 2007 12:34:40 PM
superhero, 'loathe' would be a kind way to describe the movie that Ghost Rider was. Before I rant more on that, I want to thank Bug for helping out with his GR review. I was one of those who wanted to know if there was anything even remotely close to a 'definitive' Ghost Rider story. I may check out some of these other recommendations, but honestly after seeing the movie I don't really have the need to. Back to the movie. Bug, my man, same level as Fantastic Four? I hated the FF movie and I think it's Citizen Kane compared to Ghost Rider. The Punisher is also leaps (not bounds, bound are real high) better than GR. Elektra was just awful, but I think Vern put it best when he said, "Longer than Elektra and therefore more painful." and "Not as bad as Spawn or Batman & Robin." but that ain't saying much is it? I really like Grant Morrison, but I hated this issue so much I couldn't believe it. At first I thought maybe it was just me and people would praise the over indulgence in description of Bozzo the fucking clown. I honestly skimmed through most of it after that horrible opening. I hated the art too. Computery type stuff isn't my cup of tea when it's so obvious looking. Batman looked like a lifeless action figure. I had more fun with the Grotesk arc and I really didn't enjoy that story either. Can it be? Is Civil War finally over today? Now all we have is the Civil War one shot things and World War Hulk and a yet as untitled X-Men event sometime next year right? Btw, I'm not jazzed about 52 in reverse either. Even with Dini overlooking it, it just seems like too much. On a positive note, I really enjoyed Bendis' NA #27 with the new team. This issue reminded me why I have collected the series. Every once in a while he knocks one way deep if not out of the park (still love the NA Annual). Fair and balanced I believe that was. Great reviews @$$holes. Can't wait for da @$$ies and perrhaps a return of Schleppy!
The Punisher vs. Hobo With A Shotgun by Mr Incredible	Feb 21st, 2007 12:50:24 PM
Now that would be a good book to read.
Angel Medina on Spec. Spider-man by Olsen Twins_Fan	Feb 21st, 2007 01:29:57 PM
What has he been doing since he gave the Hulk and Thor boobs in the late '90's? His art on the Hulk towards the end of Peter David's run was the final straw that pushed me away from Marvel until the Ultimate stuff sucked me back in.
YEAH!!! Just where the fuck IS Schleppy?? by Psynapse	Feb 21st, 2007 03:21:18 PM
That little furry bastard can down more Jim Beam and smoke more weed than any of his hairless cousins I've ever met! Hell, last time he home-invaded the CogManse(TM) he actually out-smoked ME. Fucking ME with 25 (seriously) years of experience!!
See Ambush.. by nofate	Feb 21st, 2007 04:04:29 PM
we can agree if we give peace a chance. I too am a big Ghost Rider fan. As far as any definitive and high quality Ghost Rider stories to reccomend? I always thought that whole "Midnight Sons" label Marvel gave to their main supernatural titles in the mid 90s was freaking cool. It reintroduced the Nightstalkers, particularly Blade, Morbius and others. It went south went Blaze ended up looking like Cable for some reason, but it was a good couple years of stories.
Re: Thunderbolts #111 by nofate	Feb 21st, 2007 04:08:46 PM
Can anyone clarify why Jack Flag is alive? Wasn't his suicide bombing corpse the one that started Avengers Disassembled? I haven't read TB #110 so I'm not sure what's going on. I'm waiting to pick up CW #7 today to read the whole thing in one sitting. Pray for my brain!!
nofate... by rev_skarekroe	Feb 21st, 2007 04:48:02 PM
That was Jack of Hearts.
Wait, Mendez's breast AND ass were great by Big Bad Clone	Feb 21st, 2007 04:53:19 PM
How dare you forget to credit that rump. And I second you on Cage's ears.
Hey, if Nicky Cage has his way..... by Psynapse	Feb 21st, 2007 05:32:03 PM
Eva Mendes will be the She-Hulk in a movie. True story: http://tinyurl.com/yo5dwt
Black costume for no reason (civil war spoiler) by #1 Zero	Feb 21st, 2007 06:35:13 PM
The writer with the review of the new spider man book speculated that he was in black for the movie. Well if you read the last installment of Civil War which came out today, there is no real reason given for him to go back to black. I've read in Wizard that he is doing it to be less noticable to people, "to be able to hide in shadows". You can draw your own conclusions as to whether that means he went underground or not at the end of Civil war.
Civil War ending was a letdown by #1 Zero	Feb 21st, 2007 06:42:34 PM
civil war had a bad ending. I'm not going to spoil it but I thought it was just too predictable and it seems that neither side really did anything of consequence.
Thunderbolts and GR by Homer Sexual	Feb 21st, 2007 06:47:03 PM
I have been a long-time fan of Thunderbolts, and it is ok currently. Love Deodato, but the team membership is so craven, totally driven by the fact that Bullseye is a "draw," so stick him in no matter how ridiculous it is in any context. And the T-Bolts getting good media coverage with this team is also completely redonkulous. I know we, the public, can be sucked into a lot, but Venom, Green Goblin, etc with positive media spin? No friggin way! And Songbird the conflicted character continues in the same rut she's been in for, like, 80 issues. But the book is still pretty entertaining. On that subject, let's hear it for low expectations. I did not like FF at all, because (god knows why), I thought it would be sort of "good." Now, I expected GR to be awful. So I ended up liking GR, even though it is pretty much exactly on the level of FF, cheezy, made for kids, kind of cheap, heavy handed, nonsensical, but a little fun.
What's big for indies is small for Marvel by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly	Feb 21st, 2007 09:13:19 PM
Even DC regularly keeps books afloat that Marvel would cancel due to low sales. It always sucks when a favorite gets canceled, like when the Arcudi run on Doom Patrol ended. Man, that book was so much better than that John Byrne crap.
NEXTWAVE wasn't cancelled due to sales. by SleazyG.	Feb 21st, 2007 09:19:04 PM
Well, not exactly, anyway. The deal is this, as I recall: NEXTWAVE was selling, but not as strongly as Marvel would have liked. As a result, Marvel decided NEXTWAVE could get another six or twelve issues to see if it would gain readers or not. Ellis, however, would have to do it without Stuart Immonen. Marvel wanted Immonen on a much higher-profile, bigger-selling book called ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, y'see. Now, one can hardly fault Immonen for taking that gig. Ellis decided, though, that he didn't really want to carry on with another artist and would just as soon end with the arc-closing #12. Neither has discounted the possibility of returning to NEXTWAVE, but Ellis doesn't want to do it without Immonen (which I respect), so maybe there'll be a miniseries or some one-shots down the road. For the time being, though, it's done. Despite the way I snipe at Marvel sometimes, I actually respect them for wanting to continue the series even though it hadn't caught fire, and also respect Ellis for deciding he'd rather wait for his collaborator than try to replace him.
Y'know, BayouWillie... by SleazyG.	Feb 21st, 2007 09:21:10 PM
...I'm right there with ya. I actually liked some of what Arcudi was doing, and that Tang Eng Huat dude needs to get more work, like, six months ago. The book had a completely distinct style that I really dug.
Civil War Took My Breath Away by dregmobile	Feb 21st, 2007 10:17:56 PM
well, not quite. it was good. the inking was inconsistent for the first time which was disappointing. captain america's arc as a whole seemed to work for me. but it didn't end with the same same bang the first issue had. this whole initiative thing just bores me, so i'm going to drop off. and the way they have littered a series of civil war: fallen son one-shots through to may reeks of that nastiness that was cw: the return ... it was a fun ride. not really worth the wait, though. they hadn't unpacked the nextwave trades, so i must wait until next week to embark on that adventure.
"Fallen Son" my ass. by SleazyG.	Feb 21st, 2007 11:29:29 PM
Caving like a pussy and getting yourself thrown in the clink instead of fighting the forces of fascism makes you badly written, not "fallen". And as for being worried about civilian casualties? MY FUCKIN' ASS. What, it was okay when the war was in France and Germany, or when you fought in Russia or wherever the fuck else? But when it happens on your HOME TURF, in the country you're the LIVING SYMBOL OF, you walk away and let the bad guys win? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!?
Amen, SleazyG... by TempusFugitive	Feb 22nd, 2007 07:20:22 AM
Civil War = Gross mischaracterization on a massive scale, from start to finish.
TO: W3bzpinn3r research my man by knowledge1027	Feb 22nd, 2007 07:24:16 AM
MJ was taken by a man in the black costume...it was kraven after he buried peter alive for 2 weeks. Then he began wearing the black suit..and harassing Mj
P.S Civil War by knowledge1027	Feb 22nd, 2007 07:26:39 AM
It was a very very mild ending...they could have done something really great with it but in the end it was meh
I'm with SlezyG and TempusFugitive by rev_skarekroe	Feb 22nd, 2007 08:36:13 AM
As soon as I picked up the Illuminati preview thing I knew that Civil War was not going to be a book for me. An intriguing idea yeah, and I'm sure it's an entertaining read, but leave that stuff in the Ultimate Universe I say.
Gødland rocks by ETI	Feb 22nd, 2007 10:56:35 AM
'nuff said!
John Arcudi is really underrated. by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly	Feb 22nd, 2007 11:20:38 AM
Well worth the dive into the quarter bin his books inevitably fall into. The best part of his Doom Patrol run, besides respect for what came before it (coughJohnByrnesucksdickcough) was the character of Fast Forward, who was kind of a dick. I just have a thing for unlikeable protagonists. Makes it more realistic and relatable to me. Plus, he was a character from the South, that wasn't a cornpone cliche like Cannonball and the like.
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! by nofate	Feb 22nd, 2007 11:37:48 AM
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! Still here? OK, don't say I didn't warn ya. Aunt May was shot at the end of this week's ASM, so it doen't take a genius to figure out that the black custome is 'cuz Spidey's mourning her passing. Meh, would have been better if MJ had died.
Message to nofate-SPOILER ALSO! by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly	Feb 22nd, 2007 11:51:25 AM
SPOILER SPOILER YADA YADA YADA! So does she get shot, or does she get shot and croak, too?
SPOILER to BAYOUWILLY by Kamikaze Skeleton	Feb 22nd, 2007 12:41:23 PM
SPOILER --its not shown --its a last page cliff hanger thing. And she dies alot too, regardless of getting shot.
Captain America and Civil War ... by UserIDGoesHere	Feb 22nd, 2007 03:01:01 PM
I guess the 'A' does stand for France after all.
Civil War by livrule	Feb 22nd, 2007 05:52:49 PM
Was entertaining ... So it deserved my money. Better than infinite boredom anyway.
My Main Problem With GR Movie Was... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 22nd, 2007 06:03:13 PM
...the sissy, goth demons. I mean, c'mon, we're supposed to be scared of Wes Bentley and those three or four (I didn't count) pinheads? They look like the kids who get beat up on the way home from school. Why didn't they just hired Chris Kattan? Or they could have made them foppish on purpose and added on a layer of sadism. Instead, they looked like a bunch of geeks who were sitting around one of their parents garages one night with no girls around and one of 'em said, "Y' know some of those goth chicks are hot..." and a lightbulb went off over their heads.
So I guess when Captain America throws his mighty... by superhero	Feb 22nd, 2007 07:12:08 PM
shield all who oppose his mighty shield must…what? Cry about the beatdown he’s giving the bad guys and he’ll give up? Hmmmm…sounds like the Cap that I wanna read about! Captain America sees the rise of fascism in WW2 Germany, the evils of Communism during said war as well as the Cold War, has fought intergalactic dictators, faced down fundamentalist terrorist organizations all over the world…and he gives up his cause because there was some collateral damage during a SUPERHERO FIGHT???? UM, NO YOU JACKASSES. NO.
the end of CW by Shigeru	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:55:18 PM
was kind of like when you have 2 really good friends, and they get together and start dating... and everything's cool...and you are like "man this is so perfect, they're gonna get married!" And they are together for years and years. And then you go off to college and don't talk to them for a bit and when you come back she's not around and when you ask what's up he's all like "yeah we broke up a while ago dude." like it's no big deal at all. And you're left feeling kind sick. ... you got a problem with my example, bitch?
on a more serious note, by Shigeru	Feb 23rd, 2007 12:59:18 PM
I think the long-mourned Dave F. said it best that CW was acknowledging the unsaid conceits of funnybooks, and thereby undermining their very foundation. Worrying about collateral damage this much during super-hero fights belongs in a book like The Authority, or some other meta experiment, NOT 616 Marvel.
Worse than I'd imagined by Homer Sexual	Feb 23rd, 2007 02:36:43 PM
After #1, I quit reading Civil War, but thought I might pick up the trade. However, what I've read here has convinced me not to. I have always preferred 616 Cap to Ultimate Cap, but I'd rather have a@@hole Cap than giving up Cap. One trade I did pick up, from reading here, and love, was Nextwave.
Marvel makes me happy.... by Psynapse	Feb 23rd, 2007 03:28:38 PM
That my LCS allows me to loiter and read at will (16+ years as a loyal and spendy customer natch) because I'd have been major pissed if I actually paid any money to read that shit. Runaways, AXM, and Alan Davis' FF: The End is all the money they've gotten from me in a several years now.
I just fell in love with a comic book.. by Thalya	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:10:01 PM
The Brave and the Bold, people! This is such a throwback to old school done-in-ones (even if the story is carried on in the next issue) and it just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy! (and I don't think it's just the Percocet talking) I mean, AND LOOK AT PAGE 14!!! IT'S A 13-PANEL PAGE! GEORGE PEREZ IS MY GOD!!! They were so right to put this book on great paper and have a handsome coverstock. This is automatically a jewel in DC's crown. My only gripe is wondering why Roulette fell for another guy. Presumably her husband who she turned into a Man-Bat for her various underground matches was dead by now, but unless there was a followup story after "Fair Play" in JSA, I thought she had sworn off love entirely. Way cool to see her pop up though.
13 Panel Pages, All Splashes, It's All Good... by Buzz Maverik	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:25:58 PM
...I'm for no rules except one: it has to deliver. They can do what they want as long as they can pull it off, yuhseewhutimsayin'?
And they did Buzz!!! by Thalya	Feb 23rd, 2007 06:48:08 PM
The book was all substance and no decompression! Yeehaw!
Thalya Wins! by Prof Challenger	Feb 23rd, 2007 11:02:20 PM
BRAVE AND THE BOLD #1 rocked my comic-book reading world. Ditto your entire post.
Get ready to smile Thalya..... by Psynapse	Feb 24th, 2007 01:52:05 PM
Quoted from the Newsarama DC nation panel: "Didio stopped the questions to note that they've had a change of heart on something - and turned it over to Wayne, who announced that DC will continue to publish Manhunter." Read on: http://tinyurl.com/346cql
:D ! by Thalya	Feb 24th, 2007 03:07:23 PM
Got your note, but yeah, saw that last night, Psy! So so happy! And I like that Ray Palmer's coming back! (don't kill him DC!) Calculator would've made a great rogue for him had that whole "immunity" thing been removed. (and how lovely is it that the tagline for Countdown is essentially "sh** blows up"?) BTW, the Podcast for that DC Nation can be found here (remove spaces): http://www.dccomics.com/media/ podcasts/DCComics_2007-02-23_D C_Nation_Panel_New_York_Comic_ Con_2007.mp3
And this just in from the DC panel today.. by Thalya	Feb 24th, 2007 03:10:29 PM
(probably part 1 of this but..) For clarification: "Didio and Wayne recapped stuff from yesterday that they are doing a Captain Carrot mini-series and that Manhunter is back from the dead again (with the added confirmation that this is for good…not a 5-6 issue reprieve). "
why I love/hate Marvel by Homer Sexual	Feb 25th, 2007 01:00:36 PM
Horrid crap like Disassembled/House of M/Civil War makes me hate Marvel sooo much! OTOH, now that I finished my NextWave TP, I must say that it represents why I love Marvel, and am sad to say that DC could never do a book as cool as NextWave.
Yay, Captain Carrot by Squashua	Feb 26th, 2007 09:36:38 AM
That is all.
Two words: by Thalya	Feb 26th, 2007 09:49:01 AM
Ra's al-Paca
Why I prefer DC....... by Psynapse	Feb 26th, 2007 09:57:51 AM
I finally figured it out while I was perusing through Marvel's Initiative promo. DC's focus really IS their characterization and their stories. Marvel has devolved into a cult of celebrity and their stories are geared around prpmoting an given character. The Iron Man movies is coming up and lookee who is now front and center of the Marvel U. Then there's Ms. Marvel who according to the promo is now determined to become 'the best of the best' among Marvel's heroes. Which, seems to be predicated on beating down Marvel's worst villains apparently. Um, o-kaaay.....Seriously the more I read of the direction Marvel is going in the more I am reminded of the glut of reality TV and just how similiar the two are.
Damn typos...... by Psynapse	Feb 26th, 2007 09:58:46 AM
grrr (edit feature much?)
Don't forget about Black Suit Spidey.. by Thalya	Feb 26th, 2007 10:04:43 AM
At least when DC puts out a movie, the books tend to be even better as at using the same elements (Superman with a son, the sunstone crystals in Up, Up, and Away, etc..). Thanks goodness DC isn't coming out with a glut of movies. And is the Ms. Marvel push merely to parry DC's own spotlight on Mary Marvel in Countdown?
Brave and Bold by Tito Trinidad	Feb 26th, 2007 10:21:47 AM
Glad to see I am not the only won who was thoroughly impressed by this book. Wow, everytime I fall in love with some new artist and try to forget George Perez, he comes back with some flowers and chocolates and tells me how much he loves me and that he will never hit me again like Ike Turner. This is how it's done folks. On spot characterization and kick ass action, ALL IN THE SAME ISSUE. From the batmobile taking out a giant alien to Bruce Wayne getting his mac on at the casino, it was all good. Maybe they can even make supergirl appealing in the next ish.
DC and Marvel at the moobies… by The Heathen	Feb 26th, 2007 10:51:45 AM
First off, besides The Departed and Mr. Scorsese winning I was pretty underwhelmed by the Oscars last night. Regarding DC at the movies: I feel they hit a home run with Batman Begins, but at the time the Bat books were kind of crappy. Judd was still writing Batman and Detective was pointless. So, DC kinda dropped that ball. All I remember is them coming out with prestige format origin books for Ra's and Scarecrow. After Infinite Crisis is when the Bat books became quality (although Batman has been slacking). Superman Returns is still argued about and I can see why. I love a lot of it, but regret a lot too. DC on the comics front did have better Superman books at the time of SR's release (besides those crappy recap books with nifty covers by Adam Hughes), but I also attribute that to the placement of IC and OYL. Which brings to my point about DC being more concerned with their books withing their own universe for the majority. As for their movie decisions as of late? They've fucked up. Goyer off of Flash with that Night at the Museum guy replacing? Whedon off of Wonder Woman? At least we have The Dark Knight to look forward to. Marvel is all about the hype baby! Spidey 3 coming out and he's in a black suit? Bet your ass he'll be in one in the comics when the movie is released! X-Men in leather duds in the movie? New X-Men will be the same. Hell, in X-Men they even changed the entire look of cerebro to look like the movie. Super shitty release of Ghost Rider? Restart that book! BUT the thing is, for the majority, Marvel's movies have made more money and they've had more released. A lot have been shit (Ghost Rider, Elektra, FF) but some have been awesome (X2, Spidey movies). I've forgot the point of this post really, but that's where I stand regarding the movies. So? Civil War sucked ass? Shocking.
Ms. Marvel: My thoughts... by Psynapse	Feb 26th, 2007 12:01:10 PM
There may be something to that Mary Marvel comparison (and just how touchy Big M is about anyone using the word 'marvel' in a chatacters name) but maybe also because marvel simply does not have ANY female hero that is anywhere near as iconic as Wonder Woman. I mean, outside of the comics community the most well known Marvel chick is Storm ( and we see how obviously Marvel is playing THAT particular card) and she's nowhere near as imbedded in the pop culture mindframe as say, WW OR Supergirl (think about it, you've see PLENTY of non-comcs reading girls wearing a Wonder Woman or Supergirl shirt (Hell I've seen Supergirl girl shirts at Hot Topic)but whne was the last time you saw a girl wearing a Storm T-shirt outside of a shop?
Ms. Marvel == Power Girl by Squashua	Feb 26th, 2007 02:49:09 PM
That's how I see it, anyway.
Ms. M= PG-NO fucking way by Psynapse	Feb 26th, 2007 03:52:40 PM
Sorry but Carol has never had the attributes that Kara2 does (and not just the obvious ones) , simple as that.
DC's countdown promo teaser image by Psynapse	Feb 26th, 2007 04:10:12 PM
Now that I've seen it in it's full size comic printed glory: Phil Jimenez, it is official. You draw the manliest, ugliest women's bodies in all of comc-dom. Seriously dude, WTF happened to basic anatomy? Please explain to me how the twigs that are Donna Troy's calves actually supposed to hold up thos linebacker shoulders you gave her? Not to mention every other 'manly-girl' that you've rendered in that shot? Jeez man, are the meds gettin' to ya or what? (and YES I CAN criticize the art because yes I CAN do better so suck it) It's really sad, I used to be so psyched when I heard Phil was on a book. Ever since the abortion that was his render of Powergirl I now cringe and that countdown promo reiterates that it is apparently with good reason. WTF man..........
Mark Millar on Civil War: by The Heathen	Feb 26th, 2007 07:50:48 PM
"Marvel had a plan for a crossover, but it wasn't very good and I remember Brian (Bendis) and I passing each other little notes saying as much. Naturally, I wasn't too bothered as I was about to take six months sick leave and was feeling kind of like Klinger in the final episode of MAS*H. I just had my eye on a sun-lounger in the garden and a lot of pills from my doctor as I sipped sparkling water and did Sudoko for a while." See, that's my problem with guy's like Millar. He SHOULD give a shit if something sucks in the universe he's writing about. Of course with Civil War being what it was, that's a moot point, but whatever...
Hmm… by The Heathen	Feb 27th, 2007 10:54:02 AM
LAST.
Dude... by Thalya	Feb 27th, 2007 11:05:28 AM
It's a Tuesday. You can't LAST yet..
Thalya by Shigeru	Feb 27th, 2007 02:15:47 PM
did that check clear?
If you're not buying WASTELAND by Shigeru	Feb 27th, 2007 02:20:56 PM
I hate you
a buh? by Thalya	Feb 27th, 2007 02:38:35 PM
Have you been staring at my boobs again?
no by Shigeru	Feb 27th, 2007 03:22:26 PM
i saw curse of the golden flower last nite so my boob quota is filled up. i was being an asshole and meant the check from DC
Somebody's been hittin' the haterade..... by Psynapse	Feb 27th, 2007 03:32:06 PM
Shig's just bitter......
haterade by Shigeru	Feb 27th, 2007 03:34:19 PM
my fav's lemon-lime
I prefer… by The Heathen	Feb 27th, 2007 05:44:37 PM
citrus cooler… cuz I'm cooler than you. Tell me why Wasteland is so good. I promise to listen, but I gotta tell you that the first issue did not impress my penis and my shop was out of the second issue so I haven't read any more. My Dead Girlfriend was a great read. I love the 'Aberzombies'. It was also my first venture into the manga-digest format. I can't wait for more to come out.
"It's not a political issue. It's a moral issue." by dregmobile	Feb 27th, 2007 08:13:08 PM
if i hear that again, i'm going to go nuts ... interesting interpretations of cap america in civil war 7. i personally accept his giving up if you look carefully at the destruction of that segment of new york city and the fact that he was being attacked by civilians, brainwashed or not. it's one thing to be fighting for your country on foreign soil, but when the soil is your own, it's different. when your own soil starts to get demolished, as it was in cw, it takes its toll. and remember - cap didn't give up. steve rogers did. lol. brave and the bold was amazing. great to see perez's work once more. he did a fantastic job with some dynamic panels. loved seeing hal and bruce hanging out in vegas. great moments. i look forward to seeing where this series is headed. does anyone else think this illuminati series is like a bunch of glorified deleted scenes? it's hard for me to get in to it since i'm only a year into reading marvel books. second issue ended badly. the two page dc ad for its future or whatever does not have me excited. superman crying - not a good look, guys. the ninja batman - kinda cool, kinda odd. the best looking character there in my opinion is the hourman or whoever he is - the jsa guy with the slickened costume. he looks great. what they are crying about, i have no idea - world war three or 52 sales, i'm not sure and don't really care. getting very very close to grabbing those ion books soon, though. finally getting through season 1 of justice league and just caught the etrigan/demon two-parter. just when i thought this season was starting to stink (justice league guild, anyone?) this two-parter restored my faith.
dreg!!! by The Heathen	Feb 27th, 2007 09:02:56 PM
I see Marvels 'events' are already taking a toll on you. Sorry for that. For great Marvel reads get anything by Brubaker and Whedon and sometimes Peter David (Dark Tower rocked. X-Factor is consistent). The guy you called Hourman is actually known as Red Robin (previously seen in the Else Worlds tale Kingdom Come). I can see why you'd think it was Hourman though. The costumes are super similar. Red Robin WAS Dick Grayson in Kingdom Come, but it was revealed that the Red Robin in that picture was former Robin, Jason Todd. My take? Bah!!! I love Dick Grayson and I think he does nothing but 'exist' as Nightwing and if he was going to be Red Robin then that would be potentially great (especially if somebody put a Johns, Morrison, Dini, etc. on his inevitable solo book). Jason Todd should take over as Nightwing and Grayson should be Red Robin imho. Also, the Flash in that pic was revealed to be Barry Allen. Wait until you get to JLU, dreg. Awesome stuff my man.
Red Robin by dregmobile	Feb 28th, 2007 01:11:11 AM
Ah - thanks for the clarification. He looks great. Is this the same Jason Todd they brought back a year ago in Batman and forced me to quit that title? If so, I hope they get a handle on this character. I still think it's dumb he's even around after being comfortably dead for so long. Yes - very much looking forward to JLU - I've only heard good things about those seasons.
dreg… by The Heathen	Feb 28th, 2007 09:47:56 AM
yep, same Jason Todd. Currently I think he's been dressed as Nightwing to mess with Dick Grayson. I don't know anything else about him currently. I feel the same way about him. Red Robin should be Dick Grayson!!! JLU is what Bryan Singer should look at for his Superman sequel. Hell, it's what all people who are making comic book movies should look at. Nothing gets smashed like it does in JLU.
Last by Psynapse	Feb 28th, 2007 11:52:31 AM
bitches.......
Bast by dregmobile	Feb 28th, 2007 06:59:43 PM
itches.
Civil War by rustyarmor	Feb 28th, 2007 10:07:14 PM
I just wonder if I'm the only person who saw the Civil War as a cheap ass Kingdom come knockoff. I mean, the Gulag, the hero armies, Marvel being conceited enough to think they could do a better job rewriting one of the better stories (in my opinion) in recent memory... It just reminded me of KC from the beginning...
hey ernie? by sporttoon	Mar 7th, 2007 11:24:29 PM
If you're still checking old message lists Ernie, where did you hear that tidbit about the comic creator being removed from his own project? How could he get kicked off his own thing? I don't get it. New to the site and happy to poke around, J

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