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DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY DENIS
by GunsForHands
Feb 18th, 2007
03:24:34 PM
!
damn
by BadMrWonka
Feb 18th, 2007
03:25:54 PM
I was hoping they'd go with Maggie Gyllenhaal...
Damn Shia
by GunsForHands
Feb 18th, 2007
03:26:53 PM
Even Dakota Fanning looks more manly and tough than this kid!
LeBouf swings from the whip for the first time and says
by TylerDurden3395
Feb 18th, 2007
03:28:54 PM
"Yipee!"
why don't they just combine both movies
by Mastashake
Feb 18th, 2007
03:29:00 PM
Indiana Jones and the horribly designed robots from outerspace that were really here all along in the ground! or just go the Die Hard route and just call it transindie 5.0
Sh-sh-sh-shia!
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
03:30:19 PM
Bwahahahahahahaha!
RE:kirby
by Mastashake
Feb 18th, 2007
03:31:12 PM
Even stevens, Disney Channel, he can be pretty funny sometimes though.
Who the fuck is Shia La Beouf?
by Kirbymanly
Feb 18th, 2007
03:31:30 PM
Never heard o' the guy. That said...PLEASE, PLEASE no son! Just bring back Short Round and call it a day
Why are they holding this kid upon a pedestal
by Cymbol
Feb 18th, 2007
03:32:38 PM
He's a decent young actor, but really! I-Robot, Constantine, and now Transformers (I know I haven't seen it). But he seems to play the same kid in every movie and I have yet to see him really display some acting skills. Indiana's son? To me - he'll just be that kid from I-Robot, or Constantine or whatever the last blockbuster they shoved him into. Sheesh.
Not that I'm supporting him having a kid...
by Kirbymanly
Feb 18th, 2007
03:34:32 PM
...but wouldn't it be more interesting, given Indy's character, to give him a DAUGHTER?
When Will Shia La Beouf...
by zb.brox
Feb 18th, 2007
03:34:42 PM
...stop dragging down movies that I want to be good?

Answer: When studios stop thinking that people want to see his Jimmy-Olsen-esque presence in every adventure movie they put out. Seriously, I try not to have anything against him, but he played like the exact same character in both iRobot and Constantine, and he was annoying as piss in both. He's not right for that kind of part. He's just not. I don't care what you think, he's not lovable. And even if he was, lovable sure isn't what we're looking for in those roles. Being an action-hero sidekick you don't want to murder is a very, very, tricky thing, and someone as intrinsically murderable as La Beouf shouldn't be trying it.

please god, no. indy doesnt need a kid
by misnomer
Feb 18th, 2007
03:35:03 PM
..at least not one following in his footsteps.....
Hey Shia here's five bucks...
by TylerDurden3395
Feb 18th, 2007
03:35:54 PM
get a real name.
Vern....you read an Indy 4 script?
by misnomer
Feb 18th, 2007
03:36:13 PM
and havent posted a review? man...you just can't tease like that!
That sucks
by MikeHoncho
Feb 18th, 2007
03:36:42 PM
He shoudn't have a son. Bringing in a son brings down any franchise. I hate where they have sequels and the son is some cutesey kid who helps out his father. Shia La Beouf is okay though. The son is a terrible idea in general, but Shia may be someone who can play it right. I hope this isnt true though.
That sucks
by MikeHoncho
Feb 18th, 2007
03:36:43 PM
He shoudn't have a son. Bringing in a son brings down any franchise. I hate where they have sequels and the son is some cutesey kid who helps out his father. Shia La Beouf is okay though. The son is a terrible idea in general, but Shia may be someone who can play it right. I hope this isnt true though.
Mastashake is a Pre-Cog
by thebearovingian
Feb 18th, 2007
03:37:37 PM
You've been outed!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by Lucasblows
Feb 18th, 2007
03:38:17 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
as simon pegg once wisely said
by misnomer
Feb 18th, 2007
03:41:55 PM
"you can retroactively damage a product by adding to it...look at Alien Vs Predator....whoever won, we left."
I htink Lucasblows said it best when he said;
by vivavitalogy
Feb 18th, 2007
03:44:46 PM
No.
Please don't be true.
by one9deuce
Feb 18th, 2007
03:45:50 PM
All film series inevitably go downhill with the third entry, and then go to shit with the fourth. Casting Shia LaBeouf as Indiana Jones son just REEKS of the kind of move that will ensure a horrible fourth entry.
McWeeney, you son of a bitch
by BankyFan
Feb 18th, 2007
03:48:58 PM
If you have read the Darabont script (you know, the one Spielberg said is the BEST SCRIPT HE'S READ SINCE RAIDERS), and are holding out on us...I will be very, very upset.
Indiana Jones and the...
by vivavitalogy
Feb 18th, 2007
03:49:21 PM
son who wouldn't JUST GO AWAY. I realise how lame that was; forgive me.
Christ, Lucas is sticking it to all of us AGAIN
by tiredpm
Feb 18th, 2007
03:50:48 PM
It's like Thomas Harris destroying Hannibal Lecter so he doesn't have to go there again: Lucas seems determined to fuck all his properties and the original fans that put him where he is today. Granted, that's his right, but fucking hell, it blows to watch it happen. Yeah, I know this is probably a 50/50 decision with Spielberg, but if it starts another "George Lucas raped my childhood" thread I'm all for it...
The movie is two years away and I'm already sick of it.
by Flim Springfield
Feb 18th, 2007
03:53:35 PM
die hard with a kid
by Evil Hobbit
Feb 18th, 2007
03:54:53 PM
indiana jones and the kid. What is it with all the kids?????
Shia = the Jar Jar Binks of the Indy franchise
by MaxCalifornia.
Feb 18th, 2007
03:57:31 PM
Popular George Lucas franchise returns after a long absence now with 'cute', 'hip' kid-friendly character. See ya on cable, Indy.
Indiana Jones and the Battle of Shaker Heights
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:11:37 PM
And so forth.
Indiana Jones and the Constantine Gardener
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:12:49 PM
...
Indiana Jones and the Guide to Recognising Your Saints
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:13:22 PM
...
Indiana Jones and the Greatest Game Ever Played
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:14:05 PM
...
if they give jones a kid...
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 18th, 2007
04:14:44 PM
i'm not even going to see the damn film...seriously. i'll just watch raiders again instead.
Bumblebee in Next Indy film!
by StupidAndUgly
Feb 18th, 2007
04:15:20 PM
(SARCASTIC) C'mon how AWESOME would it be if young Indy was the first to find the transformers as a youth? and how much more awesome if it was played by the same actor in different time periods. SWEET!
holy shit
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 18th, 2007
04:16:03 PM
the kid is ford's double...
Are you guys aware of who is directing this?
by starwarrior
Feb 18th, 2007
04:18:38 PM
It happens to be Steven Spielberg. Do you honestly think that the director of Munich and Minority Report would allow a Jar-Jar Binks in his movie? Spielberg's last 10 movies or so have all been impeccably cast, don't worry about who he picks for Indy 4.
Koepping it real
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:20:52 PM
In his (possible) defence, David Koepp was told by a studio that they would make Panic Room if he changed the main characters from a mother and daughter to a couple of teenage hotties, and he didn't go for it. As a screenwriter he may be frequently bland, but at least he seems to have some integrity and is not given to populating his scripts with irritating young upstarts.

Incidentally, "bouf" is not quite French for beef, but depending on verb conjugations has something to do with eating. Obviously this gives rise to "Gotta Eat" jokes but I'm not going to be the first to touch that...

Indiana Jones and the Broken Condom.
by CatVutt
Feb 18th, 2007
04:21:18 PM
Apparently, anyway.
A few reasons to get excited about Indy 4.
by starwarrior
Feb 18th, 2007
04:22:56 PM
1-A new Spielberg flick is always a good reason to get excited. 2-Harrison Ford (to this day THE best action actor ever) returns in his best role. 3-It's fucking Indiana Jones! If you're a guy and you don't want to see this guy back in action, turn your dick in.
Why Not...
by Stuntman Mike
Feb 18th, 2007
04:23:23 PM
Dakota Fanning? Spielberg used her demonic li'l face for War O Da Worlds already; she's probably on stringer. Or Haley-Joel Osment? He needs work.
The Father Worked
by georges garvaren
Feb 18th, 2007
04:23:25 PM
so why can't the kid? Oh wait! It can. Yeesh.
I sincerely hope he...
by TheNorthlander
Feb 18th, 2007
04:23:27 PM
...takes after Indy's father instead of Indy. Sorta like the Seth Green/Dr Evil relationship in Austin Powers.
Aww shit
by THE KNIGHT
Feb 18th, 2007
04:26:12 PM
This place is going to explode...
they should cast that midget from Austin Powers
by Im rich bitch
Feb 18th, 2007
04:26:29 PM
this is finally starting on the bullshit path.. watch now Indie getting raped fellas.
Wasn't Natalie Portman cast at some point?
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:29:30 PM
As Indy's daughter, I hope, as opposed to the love interest. Perhaps this is old news. But even if Indy 4 was complete garbage, I'd still go to see Natalie Portman.

I misread this jackass's name, by the way. My French was correct and my reading was wrong. So it doesn't really mean anything.

I don't understan the issues you lot have with this
by HotblackDesiato
Feb 18th, 2007
04:37:15 PM
20 or so Bond movies. Why can't you make more Indiana Jones movies?? There are a lot of stories that can be told. You can mine the era almost endlessly. Yea, the kid thing is a bit rote but for fucks sake. I'm 36. Just the nostalgia factor is enough to get me hard. Why is it wrong to revisit the character?? And why is it so wrong to make it when Ford is so old. He isn't dead. peoplein their 60s still have passions. As long as this is about Indiana Jones in the later years of his life, then what is wrong with that?? Imagine the character at that age and you can see him being physically limited, yes, but still the same cranky, passionate risk-taker. But I guess if this movie doesn't get made then it means more money for, say, Mortal Kombat 3 or whatever that shit was that Drew co-wrote. Really hard to pass judgement on the Beard and Indy when you took money to write the (unproduced) third movie in a videogame series. C'mon. Get some perspective. It's Indiana fucking Jones.
How about
by Redfive!
Feb 18th, 2007
04:38:31 PM
They just let Indiana Jones go on an epic adventure all by himself,meet some new people and let them tag along.All this crap with adding an offspring and more family members,why the hell cant they just stick to the basic and do what Rocky did this year and have the movie be about ...say INDIANA JONES!!!.
Trilogy.
by CatVutt
Feb 18th, 2007
04:41:43 PM
I'm probably in the minority, but if they were going to bother doing this at all, I really wish they'd come up with enough material for a trilogy of films focusing on an older Indy, rather than what will probably be a half-baked one-shot, filled with winks and nods to the installments of the past. Something that was really thought out in terms of BEING a trilogy, whereas the three previous films were not, really. I dunno. Just seems like more of a commitment to the character than just another Indy film.
I just threw up in my mouth
by ebolamonkey
Feb 18th, 2007
04:44:44 PM
Why is Indiana-Bad-Ass-Muthafuckin-Jo nes splitting screen time with Connery and some kid? I've waited this long and now you're going to cut his time DOWN even more? How did it fucking get to this? Why do people think the natural progression is to add a son in this one? Connery killed the momentum in the last one. Why are we going for MORE cutesy? Sad. Sad. Sad. Let's kill another franchise by introducing a kid. Don't care how good an actor he is, father-son action duos are lame.
So where were you...
by fractureJonze
Feb 18th, 2007
04:45:00 PM
...when they broke it to us that the next DIE HARD was going to be McClane and son?
Jeez Louise, if you're gonna give Indy a kid...
by robogeek.com
Feb 18th, 2007
04:49:46 PM
...make it a daughter and name her Dakota. ;-)
wonder if there'll be any
by TheNorthlander
Feb 18th, 2007
04:50:44 PM
"I'm Henry III, I am, I am" jokes?
Maybe Natalie Portman will play Marion's daughter...
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
04:50:46 PM
...and Shia Labouf will play Indy's son, and Indy and Marion will get married making them step brother and sister, and while sitting on the porch at Grandpa Connery's place, drinking lemonade and eating Wurther's candies given to them by Gramps, Shia will tell Natalie that 'her beauty is...intoxicating'. Hee hee.
That's no problem, Bobo_Vision
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
04:51:45 PM
They live in Utah, don't they?
Indiana Jones and the Confusing Bingo Card
by Rupee88
Feb 18th, 2007
04:53:25 PM
Yeah, but who is going to play Indy? They are going to have to dig up Harrison Ford if they wait much longer.
Keeping the Faith.
by Larry of Arabia
Feb 18th, 2007
04:55:43 PM
When he's running at full force the man writes some fine entertainments. Sure none of them are perfect but the man knows his genres and entertains well. Spielberg has been on a solid roll since AI both as a director and producer. I still have faith. We all thought Indy's Dad would be a mistake but it worked, thanks in part to some great chemistry between Connery and Ford.
Indy doesn't need a son
by NoPIX
Feb 18th, 2007
05:02:08 PM
I never imagined he would even be a good father. He's like his own father in the sense that he has true passions that always come first.
Harry's fat ass sliding down the pole
by dundundles
Feb 18th, 2007
05:07:31 PM
Please spare us the torment, and change it.
This could get ugly fast
by Darth Thoth
Feb 18th, 2007
05:11:15 PM
I agree with most folks' sentiments. This is a bad idea. What we need is just a stone cold Indiana Jones flick. Just hard nails. Screw it. He may be old(er) but don't neuter the character by cutting his screen time for a comic relief son (I like Shia as an actor but that's all the role's going to be- comic relief). Work with Indy, the character. But don't sidetrack the affair with all these unnecessary characters that none of us will gravitate towards anyway. That's one of the reasons the (Star Wars) Prequels failed. Too many characters we could give two hoots about. That's why Blade Trinity sucked... it was about everyone else except Blade. And like one talkbacker stated above, why Rocky Balboa was a success. It was about Rocky! Rocky may have been older but the movie dealt with that. It dealt with him. Indy IV should just focus on Indy and forget the whole son bit. Speaking of sons, haven't we learned anything from Superman Returns, lol. Just kidding.
JUST BRING BACK MARION!!!!!!
by ImJustSaying
Feb 18th, 2007
05:16:43 PM
You do that, and I'll forgive letting Indy have a kid. I also agree that Natalie Portman would be a FAR better choice than Mr. Sidekick. Can you picture her going on adventures in the 50's? Just her in bobby socks and a sweater is enough to get my ass in any movie, but her in bobby socks and a sweater SOLVING ANCHIENT MYSTERYS/POSSIBLE USING A WHIP/HAVING THE DNA OF INDIANA FUCKING JONES???? That's the fucking hottest thing in the world. But nope, here comes the Shia. Man... If he gets cast as Robin in Batman 3 (because if you don't think that Robin's going to be in Batman 3 you're a fucking moron... deal with it) instead of Joseph Gordon-Levitte, I'm going to blow my brains out opening night. Let's just hope this movie has a good artifact to find.
FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!
by El Scorcho
Feb 18th, 2007
05:28:22 PM
This kid sucks.
What Indy IV needs is...spit takes
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
05:34:41 PM
Lots of spit takes. Picture it...Ford and Connery both sitting on the porch drinking lemonade, then Marion comes up to them with Shia. "Indiana Jones, this is your son." Indy does spit take "...and your grandson." Connery does spit take. They all sip some lemonade to take this all in, when Shia says, "And I'm gay!!!" They all do spit takes. Cinematic gold.
Indiana Jones and The Turd of Destiny
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Feb 18th, 2007
05:42:17 PM
The question is will be another movie shat out of the ass of Lucas and company in the vein of the prequels or will have have some substance and be a good time. I am of course hoping for a good time. Really without knowing any major plot points on what this quest is going to be it's unfair to be negative or positive about it either way. I really hope they don't blow it but my expectations are lowered only because of the garbage that was the prequels and the less then exciting War Of The Worlds for Spielbergs last outing at doing something fun.
not sure if anyone already said this..
by MoseSchrute
Feb 18th, 2007
05:44:29 PM
I was too lazy to read through all the talkbacks, but given this is Spielberg and he likes all those broken homes, Indy Jr. will maybe be living with Marion and might not have met Indy Sr. and the three of them will somehow be reunited. Just a thought
groan
by mr. brownstone
Feb 18th, 2007
05:47:03 PM
groan
So this is how they are going to make Indy 5,6,7,8,9,10
by DARTH VOODOO
Feb 18th, 2007
05:51:46 PM
Indy's son is going to carry on the adventures + Ford can do Connery like cameos in future films. Makes sense. If this is true the Jones family could be with us for a long time.
In what bizarro universe...
by blackmantis
Feb 18th, 2007
05:51:52 PM
...does the seed of Harrison Ford produce a twerp like Shia LeBouf? This is just dumb...all we need from a Jones movie is a religious artifact to chase, a babe (okay so Marion wasn't a babe, but she made up for it with personality), and 5 or 6 jaw dropping action sequences. We need a son like we needed a father and son reunion.
I'd reboot the franchise...
by Wonderboys
Feb 18th, 2007
05:53:55 PM
With Nathan Fillion playing Indy!
I just want to know one thing....
by Hairy Nutsack
Feb 18th, 2007
06:05:46 PM
What religion are they going to mine for their McGuffin in this one? There's no way they have the balls to make Indiana Jones and the Sword of Muhammed or some shit like that. So what do you all think, is he going to raid the Norman Shnabernacle and steal the plates of Moroni or what?

What's left? The Spear of Destiny? Atlantis? Some Mayan thing?

As long as its not like "superman returns" or "mummy 2"
by Mike_D
Feb 18th, 2007
06:07:00 PM
I'd be okay with it. Perhaps an odler son, maybe in his 20s?
Fuck y'all I like Shia
by Babyshamble
Feb 18th, 2007
06:10:42 PM
He was funny in Even Stevens and showed he could act in A Guide to Recognising your Saints. I have no faith in Michael Bay so Shia's one of the reason's I'll watch transformers. Indy 4 could suck but we should trust Spielberg.
Indiana Jones and the Over-Priced Can of Soup
by Mr. Lahey
Feb 18th, 2007
06:11:02 PM
I'd watch it.
Indiana Jones was always supposed to be about boy's...
by Cpt Kirks 2pay
Feb 18th, 2007
06:18:40 PM
...own adventure ESCAPISM!!! That meant escapism from the real world. That meant, getting the helll outta the territory of family, real world problems and involvement, that meant not having a film in which your pesty DAD was in, therefore grounding any young audience member with thoughts and contemplations about their own domestic and father son troubled relationships. That's the kinda shit we go to movies to FORGET, let alone go to such an escapism movie as Indiana Jones to get away from that kinda stuff and be transported away to a world as far away as possible as ours. Indiana Jones was always supposed to be a movie that transported us to a world of fantasy and adventure, not bring us back to the real world and away from such escapism. Spielberg and Lucas, if you wanna give us a film about realism, than bloody well make Munich or Schindler's List or even The Color Purple, but keep it out of Indy. It's one of the reasons to be quite frank, of why I didn't like The Last Crusade too much. I couldn't give a fuck if Indy's dad was Sean Connery, there were loads of other ways to bring more emotion and depth to the story and Indy's character and human relationships than have his dad brought into it. I watched that movie thinking about the relationship between my dad and myself, and that is NOT the kinda thing that I want to see or think about in an Indy movie, I'm sorry but it isn't! I go there to get AWAY from all that stuff! So I don't bloody well want this cop out story telling dvice to be employed in the next Indy movie with his son being brought into it. It makes Indiana Jones less of an adventurer that takes you away from all the estrangement that you have in your life, and instead just reinforces you with such anti adventure sentiment such as fucking family values that we just don't want to go to an Indy movie to see, we in fact want the opposite. Forfuxake, Spielberg and Lucas, get in tune with your audience's psyche like you used to do back in the 70s/early 80s. We don't care for this shit. If we want added depth and emotional awareness in an Indy movie apart from fantasy and escapism, we can find loads of other ways to do so rather than going for this cheap family story method. Also, Spileberg and Lucas, you're both fucking cop outs for using these kinda stories, Spielberg always has to awkwardly and unnecessarily use that in his films and it only cheapens not just the film but our view of Steven. It don't work for the film, not even subconsciously, and not only does it make it a lesser film, but again, there are other subjects and ways to give these films more feeling and significance and emotion.
Why are you all complaining?
by JusticeSabre
Feb 18th, 2007
06:18:45 PM
The Indiana Jones films were nothing more than a stupid whip and fedora commercial. I think this sounds cool!!!1
fuck that
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Feb 18th, 2007
06:23:24 PM
fuck this movie too. i was holding out hope...i really was, but now, no fucking way. its dead to me
Why RAIDERS was so exhilarating
by No Respectable Gentleman
Feb 18th, 2007
06:23:25 PM
Because there were no disernible character arcs. No gooey family relationships. No wacky kids. Slapstick heroines. Estranged fathers. And certainly no long-lost sons. And nothing was "learned" along the way. The film was exhilarating because it dispensed with such pretensions and it was still FIERCELY INTELLIGENT. It was an instant classic. But Simon Pegg is right: you can retroactively damage a classic. There's no question TEMPLE OF DOOM, LAST CRUSADE and that godawful YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLES knocked RAIDERS off its pedestal (if not for them, RAIDERS would still be commonly regarded as a top five masterpiece) and it's painful to speculate what a Disneyfied Lucas and a gentrified Spielberg are going to do to it now. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE INDY'S SON!
They should make his character a REALLY big Elvis fan..
by Gozu
Feb 18th, 2007
06:26:54 PM
and then have Mola Ram rape him and rip his heart out. "KALI MA!"
in the words of AHHNOLD
by T 1000 xp professional
Feb 18th, 2007
06:27:03 PM
STOOPPP WHIIINNINGGG.....as you guys mentioned this is a new Spielberg joint....i have total faith in the man.... and yes i do like Shia the next Tom Hanks baby haha... :::john williams music ensues:::
so bored
by johnnyfavourite
Feb 18th, 2007
06:38:01 PM
so fucking bored with the quasi-movie snob that is mor...get over yourself.
the big reason they want Indy to have a son is...
by future help
Feb 18th, 2007
06:38:53 PM
to continue the franchise FOREVER. James Bond style/second gen. shit. WHATEVER$$$$$$
NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Forestal
Feb 18th, 2007
06:40:19 PM
Never! Never!
Just Recast Indy and Reboot
by NHRonin
Feb 18th, 2007
06:44:42 PM
Ford looks like the Cryptkeeper lately. That whole talking out of the side of his mouth thing is disturbing.
Indiana Jones and the Quest for Marion's Taint
by Dr Gregory House
Feb 18th, 2007
06:45:32 PM
That bitch could drink, yo!
Rob Zombie's Indiana Jones
by Dr Gregory House
Feb 18th, 2007
06:48:38 PM
"Your the son of a whore, Jones"
Indiana Jones and the wimpy WB Flavor of the Month
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:49:06 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the crass cross-gen marketing effort
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:49:49 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the grocery store self-checkout device
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:50:10 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Bingo Jackpot
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:51:16 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Hoverround Power Scooter
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:52:17 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Secret of the Reverse Mortgage
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:52:48 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Too-Loud Rap Music
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:53:29 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Disrespectful Nursing Staff
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:53:55 PM
n/t
How Lucas, Ford, and Spielberg got this idea
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
06:54:04 PM
I assume, they were shooting the breeze over at Ford's ranch, when Lucas asked, "How can we keep Indy's appeal with the younger audience?" After rubbing their chins a few minutes, Ford says, "My kids love that Disney channel." Lucas says, "Mine too." Then Spielberg says, "Hey, how about that kid, Shia Lebouf?" Then they all jumped out of their chairs and did the golddiggers dance from City Slickers 2.
Indiana Jones and the Quest for a Bridge Partner
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:54:26 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Stubborn Nutrasweet Packet
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:54:53 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Innacurately daubed Capzasin-P
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:56:42 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Disappointing Fruit-Cocktail Cherry Ratio
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:57:31 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Steering Wheel That's Hard to See Over
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:57:50 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Fradulent Lottery Scheme
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:58:51 PM
n/t
My favs
by T 1000 xp professional
Feb 18th, 2007
06:59:44 PM
HAHAHHA funny stuff Daddylonghead...Indiana Jones and the grocery store self-checkout device....Indiana Jones and the Bingo Jackpot....Indiana Jones and the Too-Loud Rap Music....Indiana Jones and the Disappointing Fruit-Cocktail Cherry Ratio....hahahaa in the words of the AIM generation "LOL"
Indiana Jones and the Revamped Prescription-Drug Discount
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
06:59:47 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Free Diabetis Supplies
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
07:00:06 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Horror of the Miscegenating Grand-Kids
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
07:01:28 PM
n/t
Hmmm, I wonder if Daddylonghead is about to get
by chrth
Feb 18th, 2007
07:02:33 PM
The erasure treatment? Does the new anti-Thread-Spamming rule correspond to such a situation, or only repetitive postings?
Daddylonghead and the instant banning
by chrth
Feb 18th, 2007
07:03:16 PM
Indiana Jones and the Lawrence Welk re-run
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
07:03:48 PM
n/t
Daddylonghead = BANNED.
by El Scorcho
Feb 18th, 2007
07:04:15 PM
Please.
Indiana Jones and the Smell of Musty Butterscotch
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
07:04:43 PM
n/t
Indiana Jones and the Misplaced Bifocals
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
07:05:46 PM
n/t
SHIA IN INDY IV = SUPERBOY IN SUPERMAN RETURNS
by Rindain
Feb 18th, 2007
07:06:25 PM
That's right, Shia in Indy IV = the kid throwing the piano in Superman Returns. SHIA IN INDY IV = not a good idea. He can have a role, but not as Indy's son. Please no...
Don't be hatin'
by Daddylonghead
Feb 18th, 2007
07:07:12 PM
You know they're funny
i'm still laughing
by occula
Feb 18th, 2007
07:09:33 PM
daddylonghead, have you been watching old episodes of 'mr. show'? you have a rapier wit! i agree with the dude above who said it should be a daughter. maybe she can be adopted and good at gymnastics, so when the dinosaurs come after indy, she can do a triple-sow-cow and kick 'em in the head!
daddylonghead is pretty funny...
by Son of Batman
Feb 18th, 2007
07:15:01 PM
I guess we're the same person, then, right?
KAREN ALLEN GOTTA EAT!
by chrth
Feb 18th, 2007
07:15:03 PM
I mean she showed such promise so long ago ... Animal House, Raiders ...
Zorro Jr. & "The Legend of Zorro"
by PhantomZone111
Feb 18th, 2007
07:24:37 PM
Indy Jr.?! Great, bringing in kiddie Zorro in "The Legend of Zorro" wasn't bad enough, now Indy Jr.'s going to destroy that franchise. Frak.
IF "LAST CRUSADE" CAME OUT THIS SUMMER...
by moto
Feb 18th, 2007
07:31:49 PM
...you guys would be pissing and moaning about Spielberg and co. showing a young version of Indy. You'd complain and cry, "You're raping my childhood", which is the most idiotic thing TBers bitch about. Hey, I HATE prequels in almost any aspect, but the one thing The Last Crusade DID do right 100% was the young Indy story, with River Phoenix in the lead. Granted, Phoenix had proven to be an outstanding actor and captured the role of young Indy perfectly (right down to the facial expressions), BUT despite that... you guys would have pissed and moaned about a young Indy storyline... and you would have been wrong. You bitch about everything and anything. Shia is not a terrible actor at all. He hasn't been in enough movies to declare this a frickin' travesty of casting. The only reason you're bitchin is because he is in Transformers. Get over it.
wasn't river phoenix great?
by occula
Feb 18th, 2007
07:39:14 PM
every once in a while i watch 'last crusade' just because of that intro sequence. he even gets the harrison ford-esque timing right when he shushes the fat kid. amazing.
Harry probably made this shit up anyway....
by moto
Feb 18th, 2007
07:41:54 PM
Let's face it, he's admitted to conjuring up stories before when this once great website started out. There's no more Star Wars movies to report on. So he says some "pretty reliable sources" say that Shia is up for the role. Then he creates a bitch pissing and moaning fest for TBers, so they stay interested and have something to complain about. I honestly think Harry enjoys listening to you guys bicker. It's good business. More hits on the site. I said it before and I'll say it again, the internet, but more specifically sites like Aint It Cool News, have killed the wonder of going to the movies. Creates so much negative emotions based off of minute details, usually bullshit casting and story rumors, etc. It just ruins any type of wonder. Like when we walked into the theater when Back to the Future debuted in '85. We knew nothing about it besides some cool trailers. Same for Star Wars. Same for Inidiana Jones. That's long gone. Movies will NEVER perform to expectation, but that doesn't mean it's black and white... sucks or is frackin' excellent. Doesn't work that way. But you add preconceived opinion based off of heresy, then yep... that wonder is GONE. Not for me though. I'm keeping an open mind and letting the damn movie speak for itself.
Yeah the River Phoenix scene was great
by chrth
Feb 18th, 2007
07:48:14 PM
Better than the rest of the movie, imo. It's a damn shame about him.
Indy having a son = flames on Optimus
by AshesOfDonnie
Feb 18th, 2007
07:52:01 PM
and will be the Little Miss Sunshine of whatever year it comes out in!
Indiana Jones & The Convalescent Home of Doom
by AshesOfDonnie
Feb 18th, 2007
07:55:59 PM
eh
Steven Spielberg to become next George Lucas
by neobob187
Feb 18th, 2007
07:58:14 PM
That's right steven ruin your franchise like George ruined his. If you put Shia Lebouf as Indie's son, he will equal if not surpass Jar Jar Binks in the eyes of fans. And they will resent you forever! FOREVER!
Maybe he'll call his son "Junior"
by Shaw
Feb 18th, 2007
07:59:57 PM
And his son won't like it and will say "don't call me Junior" baaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha that would be gold!!! gold baby!!!!!!
No one posted anything about new GRINDHOUSE Trailer?
by Orionsangels
Feb 18th, 2007
08:01:52 PM
Weird...http://tinyurl.com/298 rga
No Indy Jr!
by CTU Mole
Feb 18th, 2007
08:11:32 PM
No younger indy, no indy as a mentor. That's all bull shit and never works. No one wants to see young Indy, they want to see Ford.
A few days ago, Orionsangels
by CTU Mole
Feb 18th, 2007
08:15:09 PM
Any movement on Grindhouse is covered immediatly, in great detail.
Yackbacker
by Shaw
Feb 18th, 2007
08:16:22 PM
I'm both impressed and horrified at the same time. I fear you may be exactly right.
"total faith in Spielberg"
by Neutron
Feb 18th, 2007
08:22:39 PM
Ye gods - War of the Worlds was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, AI, Munich, Minority Report, the Terminal, all terrible and that doesn't include the crap he exec produced (jurassic 3, memoirs of a geisha etc) - I have no faith at all that he won't ruin Indy 4 and diminish Raiders in the process. Find another story to tell and move on - how many more films can he make and he's wasting his time with this?

I just checked imdb and the problem isn't that he's running out of time, he's got too many projects on the go to maintain the quality. He has about9 or 10 in production right now as exec producer. I'd prefer more of a Terrence Malick pace at this point compared to what he's doing now.

I go back and forth
by colemanfrancis
Feb 18th, 2007
08:22:48 PM
Some days I want another Indy movie, others I view the thought of one as an abomination. I actually kind of liked the idea of Indy having a brother - make him an accountant or something. I could see the interplay with a sibling as being entertaining, much like it was with Ford and Connery, but make the brother the antithesis of Indiana. Or I could be a complete idiot for thinking this. And I think the IJ series will go on for many years with different actors in the lead role. Sean Connery WAS James Bond, but that franchis seems to be going well with other actors in the title role, and they've already had different actors portray Indiana at varying stages of his life. What the hell do I know, though. I made "The Beast of Yucca Flats" after all.
The story to Indy IV
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
08:23:17 PM
While on an adventure in Brazil, Indy gets a black magic curse placed on him which causes him to get pregnant. After his belly starts bulging out, whenever Connery calls him 'Junior', they both look at the camera and wink, giving a nod to the Ivan Reitman comedy 'Junior' starring Swartzenneger and Devito where Arnold gets pregnant. When giving birth, they discover the baby has a birth defect which causes him to be 19 years old. Enter (or exit) Shia Lebouf who says "Man, it was hot in there". The End.
Devin at CHUD...
by tiredpm
Feb 18th, 2007
08:26:29 PM
...is confirming Shia's presence in this movie. Hey, what do you reckon he'll like rock and roll music and Indy won't get it? What do you reckon Indy and Shia's character will tearfully watch Connery die about 2/3s of the way through? Hey, what do you reckon Indy puts the hat on the kid at some point in this movie? Uuurrgggllll...sorry, just choked on my own vomit...
i don't dislike shia ... but he's making it awful hard
by Rearden
Feb 18th, 2007
08:26:36 PM
... stepping into a role in a legacy he really has no right to, in a part that really shouldn't exist. God dammit.
YackBacker, that's pretty funny
by tiredpm
Feb 18th, 2007
08:32:58 PM
And yet so, so, so sad. Because we both know at least 50% of that crap is going to be in the movie, or some variation on it. *sigh*
Yackbacker
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Feb 18th, 2007
08:36:59 PM
Will he follow in his dad's footsteps and be afraid of snakes, too?

Good lord, I can see it now - the kid snaps the whip onto his belt, puts on the fedora, turns to face the camera, and gives the audience his best Harrison Ford-style grin.

That's the shot! Can it!!!

Mr. Nice Gaius
by tiredpm
Feb 18th, 2007
08:39:33 PM
It'll be spiders. Because that was one of the first scenes in Raiders, Indy not even being bothered by all the tarantulas on his back. Oh, and he'll think the whip is lame and not like guns.
Daddylonghead
by Rupee88
Feb 18th, 2007
08:39:41 PM
'Indiana Jones and the grocery store self-checkout device ' LOL...I feel your pain being stuck behind Indy in line.
And yet...
by tiredpm
Feb 18th, 2007
08:40:31 PM
..he'll have to use the whip and gun to save Indy/himself/random love interest. My God, it just writes itself, doesn't it?
In keeping with the tradition from 'Last Crusade'
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
08:44:40 PM
Shia Lebouf will introduce his 19 year old girlfriend to Indy, only to discover that they've slept with the same girl. And to add the the hilarity, Connery will have slept with her too. Then a clown will peak his head from behind a corner and blow a flute whistle making the sound 'Waaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaaaaahhhh'. And all three Jones's will shrug their shoulders and laugh.
Ah, but what will the kid's name be???
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Feb 18th, 2007
08:50:18 PM
Alabama? Dakota?

"But dad, we named the hampster New Mexico!"

Whats wrong with Indy procreating?
by JackieJokeman
Feb 18th, 2007
08:52:36 PM
I cant see his genes producing anything as lame as LaBeouf but do we really want to see Indy as some sad old genetic dead end?
Oh dear God. Get Victor Salva on "Shia" again NOW!
by JackPumpkinhead
Feb 18th, 2007
08:54:32 PM
Before it's too late. Salva (uh, allegedly) drilled "Shia" a few years ago, let him do this dance again and make sure "Shia" can't walk and fuck up a nice franchise with his non-presence. And a fucking I HAVE A KID? "plot"... Quick, have someone start a "Damn you David Koepp" trend!
YackBacker
by JackieJokeman
Feb 18th, 2007
08:58:46 PM
Yeah it could suck. It might not. It could be the kid from Superman Returns or it could be River Pheonix from Last Crusade. The only way you can be sure the movie wont suck, kid or no kid, is not to make it at all.
WOW, I hate that Even Steven kid!
by Power_Girl
Feb 18th, 2007
09:01:24 PM
He's a little pussy...Just think after Indy how many lead roles in big budget action/adventure movies this kid be cast in...OH THE HUMANITY!
LEEEEEEBOOOOOOUF GOTTA EAT!
by THE KNIGHT
Feb 18th, 2007
09:02:25 PM
One of you guys had a gun to my head. I had no choice...
Daddylonghead is the funniest thing on this site.
by BirdMcMonster
Feb 18th, 2007
09:03:05 PM
I laughed harder at his Indiana titles than I did at Neil Cumpston's (sp?)300 review. And that says a lot - cuz I almost got fired. Keep 'em coming! Don't listen to un-creative haters.
INCONSISTENCIES!
by JustinSane
Feb 18th, 2007
09:08:27 PM
Indiana Jones only had a daughter, I believe, on Young Indiana Jones chronicles. How are you gonna swing that, huh? Does LeBouf have a sex change somewhere down the road? Oh, and don't forget - Old Indy had a huge gash across his face, was missing an eye and wears an eyepatch, so we'd better see Harrison lose his eye in this one! NO MORE CONTRADICTIONS EVER!!!
Indiana Jones And The Suspiciously Shiny Travel Sweet
by misnomer
Feb 18th, 2007
09:14:00 PM
..."choose wisely"
Spielberg charity case. He doesn't want to
by superninja
Feb 18th, 2007
09:14:04 PM
be responsible for ruining the kid's career with Transformers.
SHIA LA BEOUF = COUSIN OLIVER
by Pound Sand
Feb 18th, 2007
09:15:50 PM
Let's just wait for Ford and Speilberg to die
by superninja
Feb 18th, 2007
09:17:29 PM
and then we can remake Raiders with a SI swimsuit model.
And still no love for Hulk Hogan as Indy III?
by Darth_Nader
Feb 18th, 2007
09:19:25 PM
Whatcha gonna do, brutha?!?!
Why does every long running franchise bring in a teen?
by MaxCalifornia.
Feb 18th, 2007
09:22:52 PM
Notice how every big franchise that recently made a comeback featured a young/teen friendly male character in a significant role? Terminator 3 - Nick Stahl & Clare Danes as sidekicks. Blade Trinity - Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel as sidekicks. Rocky Balboa - Rocky Jr as a young man. Die Hard 4 - Justin Long. Star Wars prequels - teen Dawson's Creek in space romance crap. Superman Returns - kid. And rumor suggests that Rambo 4 will feature Rambo working with some young mercenary dudes. The only ones that didn't do this younger sidekick crap were BATMAN BEGINS and CASINO ROYALE. And they're the only two that anyone liked! It sounds like studio exec bullshit - they're afraid that teenagers won't know or care who Indiana Jones is, so they feel they have to shoehorn a teen actor in to give them someone to relate to. Stop the insanity!
Shia's character will be named Steven
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
09:27:10 PM
Because the character will represent Steven Spielberg's inner youth. Through this story, Spielberg will get closure with regards to his parents separation, and Lucas will get closure to his failed marriage. There will be also be a flashback scene where a young Indy remembers being approached by his dirty, lascivious Uncle who responds to Indy's fearful scream by saying 'Thats no snake.'
Son of Batman
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
09:34:07 PM
Son of Batman: "Why do we fall, pops?"

Batman: "Because we fail to engage our memory cloth wing current at high altitudes, before the wind carries us straight into the sidewalk."

No, what will happen is that Labouf will
by superninja
Feb 18th, 2007
09:34:29 PM
be some hippy turd and it will be set in the late 60s, about how much smarter the next generation is and how we should listen to their wisdom. Some anti-Cold War b.s. follows, but Indy will have a thing or two to show them! And lots of aging jokes will ensue.
Son of John McClane
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
09:36:13 PM
Oedipus McClane: "Have you done that kind of thing before?"

John McClane: "Yippee kai yay, motherfucker."

BirdMcMonster
by INWOsuxRED
Feb 18th, 2007
09:37:16 PM
If you really want to read more Indy is old jokes, read every other talkback about an Indy development or rumor. There tons of talkbacks and there are thousands of posts containing that shit.
Son of Predator
by OnomatoPoet
Feb 18th, 2007
09:38:10 PM
Predator: "Whhhhat... thuh hell... are youuuu?"
Drew, one question.
by Gilkuliehe
Feb 18th, 2007
09:40:05 PM
Why aren't you a fan of LAST CRUSADE? Seriously, I want to hear your thoughts on that one.
They need to bring kids into horror movies
by INWOsuxRED
Feb 18th, 2007
09:40:37 PM
You know Jason or Freddy needs a mini version of themselves to be all cute and keep the franchise moving forward for the future and to appeal to a younger demographic. "Damn it little Freddy, I was gonna stab that co-ed!"
MaxCalifornia
by INWOsuxRED
Feb 18th, 2007
09:45:31 PM
T2 brought in the kid, not T3. The Batman relaunch could bring in a kid and still be good as it actually belongs in the story, as long as they do it well. I always enjoy the stories that actually look at Batman and how he ropes in young children to risk their lives with him in such an irrsponsible fasion.
Re: Kids in Horror movies
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
09:49:55 PM
There actually was a trend where they started to do that, like Corey Feldman in Friday the 13th the final chapter, and Nightmare on Elm Street: The Dream Child, and one of the Halloween's with that little girl. I guess, just like fashion, these trends operate in 20 year cycles. Did no one learn the lesson from 'The Last Action Hero'. People don't want watered down action by putting annoying kids in the movies. We don't even want annoying kids in the theatres with us...let alone up on the screen.
those children were protagonists
by INWOsuxRED
Feb 18th, 2007
09:55:16 PM
even though it was hinted at they might turn murderer in some cases. I want a full blown side-kick dressed in a silly costume. Of course when I say "want" I mean I want to hear about it, and then never see the movie.
I guess the closest they've come is 'Seed of Chucky'
by Bobo_Vision
Feb 18th, 2007
10:03:49 PM
But I can't say for sure since I haven't seen it.
FUCK THIS SHIT
by ATARI
Feb 18th, 2007
10:05:37 PM
There, I feel better.
T2 ROBODADDY
by Prossor
Feb 18th, 2007
10:08:26 PM
T2 is like my least favorite of the terminators, 1 was almost like a horror, while t3 was like a rollercoaster (and in a rare GOOD way,like Empire strikes back) . what kind of terminator promises not to kill to a shitty actor like edward furlong.
It's an old joke but Daddylonghead does it well
by Laserbrain
Feb 18th, 2007
10:10:20 PM
And if this another fuckin' sappy Father/Son reconciliation story I'm gonna murder somebody.
Indiana Jones should have a black daughter instead.
by My Ass Smells
Feb 18th, 2007
10:12:35 PM
Cast the ugly bitch Spielberg used in Jurassic Park 2 and make her kill a nazi using gymnastics.
CAST ZOOIE!
by Kentucky Colonel
Feb 18th, 2007
10:15:36 PM
If Zooie D. is in it I'll be there. If she's naked, I'll be there all day!
I hoped they'd concentrate......
by Mister Man
Feb 18th, 2007
10:18:41 PM
on all the women from previous films. I guess that was one of the early drafts - I haven't paid much attention since. "Son of.." has been a hoary cliché since the silent era. So sad, if true.
Indian Jones and the Will of Fortune
by mparke2
Feb 18th, 2007
10:32:47 PM
Boom Headshot!!!!!!!
GAYEST SHIT EVER
by booth77
Feb 18th, 2007
10:37:07 PM
Shia LeFuck is the biggest prick since Osama Bin Laden. Seriously, he overacts in every movie he's in...plus he thinks he's the shit. Has he had a hit movie yet? No. And he single-handedly ruined that Guide To Recognizing Your Saints movie---which would have been better without him. Why does Spielberg have a hard-on for this assjob?
Indianapolis Jones and the Little 500...
by uss cygnus
Feb 18th, 2007
10:38:15 PM
Tagline: "Why did it have to be children?" Coming to a megaplex near you in 2010.
starwarrior
by J-Dizzle
Feb 18th, 2007
10:38:57 PM
The director of Minority Report and Munich wouldn't, but the director of AI and War of the Worlds would.
where's short round??
by theonecalledshoe
Feb 18th, 2007
10:49:06 PM
He should be in there for action (martial artist) and story (adopted son). Indy's dad should have a cameo.
Indiana Jones Jr
by Anakin Whoopass
Feb 18th, 2007
11:03:37 PM
So wait, would he be Indiana Jones Jr or Henry Jones III?
INDIANA JONES AND THE WIZARD SCHOOL
by wackybantha
Feb 18th, 2007
11:12:22 PM
Maybe Indy can do battle with Harry Potter, Hermione Granger and Ronald Weasly. It would be his version of BOOK 7!!! Now that would be pretty damn interesting!!!
INDY 4 SPOILER!!!
by wackybantha
Feb 18th, 2007
11:13:42 PM
SPOILER!!! Jennifer Love Hewitt has been cast as Indy's daughter!!!
Great! More Lucas-Speilberg Politically Correct SHIT
by Triumph poops!
Feb 18th, 2007
11:14:02 PM
Okay, first off -- I HATE the idea of introducing a son. Or a daughter for that matter. Or any of family stuff. Indiana Jones, in its BEST and TRUEST incarnation -- which was RAIDERS -- had a simple formula that Lucas and Speilberg will now FUCK UP. The reason RAIDERS worked so well WAS its simplicity. It was an action tale that didn't bog down in melodrama -- it simply stayed focused on being a straightforward, two-fisted, old style PULP adventure movie...literally!

But let's face it: this is probably WHY Lucas canned Darabont's version. Because Darabont probably DID want to make a new Indiana Jones movie EXACTY that way, but George shitted all over it, once again thinking "I know what's best!"

Of course, let's look at who is involved here and WHAT to expect. First you have Lucas, you know, the guy who thought Jar Jar was a GOOD idea and who now had Greedo shoot first because Han could no longer be a bad-ass Bounty Hunter, he now had to be a lovable one!...and you have Speilberg (and Koepp) who just had to wedge in a politically correct Black daughter to Malcolm in LOST WORLD and who were actually SO clueless that they thought a great character arc invoved her being a failed school gymnast who then gets to take out a FUCKING RAPTOR by swinging on a pipe. And you have Speilberg (and Koepp again) who thought Dakota Fanning whining like a little spoiled brat for 2 hours made for a better Alien Invasion movie then...oh, I don't know...ACTUALLY SHOWING ALIENS INVADING THE EARTH AND DESTROYING THINGS.

Seriously, given how much Lucas and Speilberg had become parents and old farts who are totally out of touch with what people REALLY want to see, does anyone have ANY faith in this movie actually turning out good as opposed to being something we will want to hurl our popcorn over???

Mark these words: The kid in THE MUMMY 2 will prove to be LESS annoying then the hamminess Lucas and Speilberg will try to shoehorn into this fim -- and I think we all KNOW how great the kid in MUMMY 2 worked out! (insert mocking Rodney Dangerfield eye roll here)...

You don't just give indy a dad, you give connery a role
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 18th, 2007
11:17:25 PM
Thats how this film should be cast. And i agree with an above talkbacker - indy should have a daughter, not a son.
INDIANA JONES AND THE LONG WALK TO THE MAILBOX
by Green Arrow
Feb 18th, 2007
11:21:51 PM
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Dear Lucas/Speilberg: GO WATCH CASINO ROYALE
by Triumph poops!
Feb 18th, 2007
11:29:01 PM
Look, here's the real bottom line here. If Lucas wants some quick cash, then just produce the damn thing -- since I think Lucas still has a good eye for exceptional production values and what will look good onscreen. So, George, kick in a few ideas, but be willing to bend A LOT more since you're REALLY out of touch with today's market...and just write the check.

Steven, get your OLD mojo back. Go watch RAIDERS in your private screening room and realize THAT'S what people want to see, not the shit you've put out like WOTW which was actually WORSE then ID4. Seriously -- Emmerich and Devlin actually made a BETTER alien invasion movie than you and Koepp because you guys lost sight of what people wanted to see, which was NOT Dakato Fanning being the ultimate whiny, bratty poster child for a political campaign called "Reason why spanking your child should always be an option."

Lastly, sad to say, the weak link here is Ford -- and we all pretty much know it. Hey, I loved Ford in the role IN HIS PRIME, but those days are LONG GONE. Did any of you actually suffer through FIREWALL? Ford is now where Roger Moore was when he made VIEW TO A KILL. It's PAINFUL to see him trying to be an action star onscreen at his age. So the truth is its time to let Ford go. Get someone else and just REBOOT the whole franchise. 3 new films with a new, younger, in his prime Indy that we can all get behind.

So seriously George and Steven: Do a Casino Royale. Go see what Daniel Craig did to literally revitalize a decades old franchise and how they made Bond seem TOTALLY FRESH once again. In short, reboot the damn thing in a way that will make a new generation WANT to see further adventures.

Oh, and here's a tip for you. It's NOT SHIA LA BEOUF. A newer, younger Indiana Jones should be...hmm, how to put this politely...ACTUALLY MANLY.

No Harrison Ford in Indy IV = No Indy IV
by Forestal
Feb 18th, 2007
11:39:58 PM
Anything else will not make money and won't be worth watching.
Fuck Shia Le Bouf
by elbmirb
Feb 18th, 2007
11:43:43 PM
Fuck fuck fuck him. Shit in i robot, shit in constantine... how many variations of "annoying fuckface" can he play before he is kicked to the curb. Its like Dakota Fanning syndrome... get off my screen Shia Lebouf !!!
Jet Li as the adult Short Round
by Julius Dithers
Feb 18th, 2007
11:47:58 PM
I'm sure Ke Huy Quan could do the job, but I want Jet Fucking Li to pimpslap Shia LaBoeuf in this film.
Nothing like great stories/ rumors/ reviews, etc...
by Darth Thoth
Feb 19th, 2007
12:02:25 AM
To get talkbackers going at our funniest. This talkback is hilarious!
no shia laboof
by LarryTheCableGuy
Feb 19th, 2007
12:02:45 AM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooo his voice even ruined nausicca for me, dangit this better be a rumor. nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo!
he already had a boy, short round
by LarryTheCableGuy
Feb 19th, 2007
12:08:01 AM
at least a hot daughter would be something to look
Forestal, they said that about Brosnan vs Craig...
by Triumph poops!
Feb 19th, 2007
12:11:26 AM
The idea that IF Indiana isn't played by Ford that no one will come is an argument I simply don't buy into at all. I've been there myself emotionally, but the truth is the buying public is always changing its taste allowing you to shift directions creatively -- well, so long as you do it right. The same argument was used over replacing Brosnan with Craig, and frankly that didn't backfire on anyone. Everyone said "No one will see this if it still isn't Pierce"...and the end result was the HIGHEST GROSSING Bond of all time. Guess people WERE willing to try a change of flavors after all, eh?

And since this involves Lucas, wasn't the same argument made over the announcement of the Prequels? That since they didn't star Hammill, Fisher and Ford that no one would show up? But as I seem to recall again, Ford NOT being in the Prequels only resulted in PHANTOM MENACE going on to become the biggest hit of all time until TITANIC came along.

Bottom line: if they did this right and cast it right -- picked a good charismatic actor to take over the role and announced it as the launch of a new trilogy and then REALLY worked hard to put out a movie that completely kicked ass in the spirit of the original RAIDERS -- I'm sure the box office would not suffer.

Hell, as far as your Ford notion, let's also NOT forget a little back history here: Lucas HIMSELF was planning to push Ford aside and put Phoenix Rivers into the role for a new set of films after LAST CRUSADE was over, where Rivers would continue on with his portrayal of Younger Indy -- but then Rivers overdosed, died, and squashed all of those plans.

Yackbacker and TBers lame "Raping my childhood" shit
by moto
Feb 19th, 2007
12:22:53 AM
Well said. I don't know why I try. I visit the site because SOMETIMES there's exciting news that gets me pumped for a future project (ala Stallone interviews, Cameron interviews, etc.)... just too bad to see so many people focus on creating negative buzz/prejudgement. But hell no, I do not let it affect my experience. I do have to disagree with you regarding what you said about Spielberg and Lucas doing it for the money. There's no question, these guys don't have to worry about the money. I'm sure the studio was thrilled to cash in on the upcoming film. But these guys could go on and on making other movies, good and bad, and not have to just do it for the money. They're invested in the character. They're storytellers. I am sure it intrigues them to see where they can take the character next. It's not for the money. If they are doing it for anything, it's for nostalgia after enjoying making those movies so much... that creative process. Believe it or not, there are some filmmakers out there that still have a yearn to feed their imagination. TBers just get so damn riled up... like making this movie is going to take anything away from the previous Indy flicks they grew up with. The only person to blame for letting that happen is themselves. I dislike Lucas' prequels for the most part, but fuck if I'm going to let those missteps ruin the movies I grew up with. It's a ridiculous argument... "Lucas raped my childhood" "Bay is raping my childhood" etc. Give me a frickin' break. If you don't like the movie, don't watch it again. But at least see it before you bash it. And the fact is, WE DON'T KNOW if Indy has a son in the fourth flick. This is so far some shitty ass rumor that Harry posted. At least wait until a trailer comes out and we SEE that Indy has a son. Or wait for a press release from the studio confirming. Ridiculous.
Indiana Jones is not James Bond
by Forestal
Feb 19th, 2007
12:50:23 AM
I loved Casino Royale and Daniel Craig as Bond but the two franchises have some major differences. The Bond series consists of 21 movies whereas The Indy trilogy consists of 3 movies. There's no way Sean Connery would have played Bond in every one of those movies. He didn't want to and neither did the producers. Indiana Jones on the other hand is a character that is popular mostly due in part to Harrison Ford's charm and charisma. The Young Indy Chronicles didn't connect with most fans because Ford wasn't wearing the fedora.
Remember- Moriarty thought "King Kong" was a good movie
by Cotton McKnight
Feb 19th, 2007
12:55:52 AM
Add to that his low opinion of Indiana Jones and the last crusade and, well... you get the idea.
and by the way, I'm a big shia lebeof fan...
by Cotton McKnight
Feb 19th, 2007
12:58:05 AM
well not REALLY but I do like what he adds to movies. He was good in I, Robot and I think he is absolutely perfect for The Transformers. But Indiana Jones? Come on. Don't we want a "River Phoenix" type guy for his son?
Crap
by tweakster
Feb 19th, 2007
01:11:05 AM
They will fuck this one up like they fucked up all of the Star Wars prequels. Fuck George Luca$ in the A$$
Phoenix Rivers??
by booth77
Feb 19th, 2007
01:11:13 AM
You retard. It's River Phoenix. Please don't diss one of the best actors of our generation. FUCK SHIA.
Bringing in a son is a bad idea
by moviemaniac-7
Feb 19th, 2007
01:13:02 AM
Le Boeuf might be a good actor, but in the end everyone will agree that bringing in another family member was a major weakness. David Koepp is a great screenwriter, but his writing is, IMHO, not Indiana Jones stuff. I'd give a lot to read the Darabont draft, but quite honestly I don't think the world is waiting for a fourth installment. I agree with most of the world that the ending of Crusade was as perfect an ending as they come in franchises. Indy is a product of 1980s cinema and it should stay that way. Just like Star Wars was a product of 1970s cinema and it should have stayed that way.
Errrr.....teh fuck?
by Motoko Kusanagi
Feb 19th, 2007
02:35:25 AM
teh sukk? no?
"You retard. It's River Phoenix. Don't diss..."
by Triumph poops!
Feb 19th, 2007
02:41:59 AM
Booth77, being a lifelong Indy fan and given that I saw the opening to LAST CRUSADE only a few days ago several times over (in my local Costco they had it looped on all the TVs), I was aware of his name -- I just accidentally transposed it while typing fast, a simple human error. So I apologize for that.

As for "dissing one of the finest actors of our generation", hey, he wasn't MY generation -- so it's not like I feel some insane emotional bond towards him. Sorry, but to me, he was simply another actor, someone I basically liked, that I had no real problem with on screen, so I'll politely leave it at that.

However as for calling me a retard...as opposed to simply posting a correction minus the sarcasm...compared to your "genius" idol, at least I was smart enough in life not to BE a fucking retard who partied too hard and who overdosed on drugs, thus completely wasting and pissing away my entire life.

Although talking about Phoenix and things that will kill you, a side anecdote courtesy of IMDB: Ironically despite his reputation for healthy living, Phoenix was a chain smoker. Peter Bogdanovich recalled, "He'd say about meat, 'That's not good for you, man, that'll kill you.' And he'd be smoking a cigarette and he'd look at it and say, 'I know, man, I know.'"

Reboot the franchise with Nathan Fillion in the lead
by Wonderboys
Feb 19th, 2007
02:57:39 AM
Nowadays is more harrison-ford-esque than Ford himself... These last years have been very bad for Ford... I used to like the man a lot, how not to? he is Han Solo, Indiana Jones... but something went wrong... I think now that he is a grumpy old man, and every time I see him on screen I can avoid to think that he is completely washed out, and miss the old Harrison... Last time Harrison was really great was in the Last Crusade... after that, all went south...
If I hear the name Nathan Fillion one more time....
by Forestal
Feb 19th, 2007
03:10:46 AM
...I'm gonna fucking kill someone.
Jet Li as Shortround...
by Son of Batman
Feb 19th, 2007
03:12:11 AM
hells yes.
Nathan Fillion, Nathan Fillion, Nathan Fillion,Nathan F
by Wonderboys
Feb 19th, 2007
03:20:52 AM
Yes, I admit it, I'm in love with the man... but in a very manly way, not that Brokeback Mountain stuff... Nathan Fillion, Nathan Fillion, Nathan Fillion :)
Interview over at Latino; shia on indy4
by misnomer
Feb 19th, 2007
03:22:02 AM
Here's a story Latino Review posted a couple weeks ago but was forced to take down after it was online for only a few minutes: Quote: I had a chance to speak to Shia LaBeouf a few weeks ago here in NYC and I asked him what he was working on next now that he's rapped TRANSFORMERS. Shia replied something like this: “I can't really say because.... put it this way, I'm trying to work something out to be in the next Steven Spielberg movie.” Which Spielberg movie is it? Well let's do some math. Spielberg is working on two projects, Lincoln and Indy IV. Lincoln is the Abraham Lincoln biopic and we all know about Indy IV. When I pressed him if it was Lincoln, Shia laughed it off. He just gave me a look saying “NO WAY!" Then when I asked him point blank if it was Indy IV. He put on a devilish smile and said “I'm trying to work it out. I don't want to loose the role to another actor so I really can't say much but it will be announced very soon.” Even more, my guy in L.A., who isn't very liked at the moment, EL MAYIMBE has spotted Shia at the Gym working out like a mad man. Would Shia being working his ass off for a role in Lincoln? Unlikely. A few days later our sources said that Steven loves Shia and that he's up for one of two roles, either Indy's son or a faithful sidekick. Could he be Indy's son? Considering the rumor that one of the rejected scripts did see Indy with a son from a liaison with Marion back in Raiders, it could happen. But it would make sense, considering Shia was born in 1986 and Raiders was released in 1981, if a fling with Willie in Temple created a Jones offspring, which was released in 1984, a bit closer to Shia's birth year. Expect an announcement soon.
shia would work as willie scotts over indulged
by misnomer
Feb 19th, 2007
03:25:19 AM
spoon-fed son...that could be funny. as long as the kid isnt automactically as wise as indy then im cool with it. PLUS fans of the tv show- isnt it pretty much canon that Indy has a daughter?
as justin longs character in DH4 is Matt Foster
by misnomer
Feb 19th, 2007
03:27:43 AM
...hes not related to McClane in later scripts.......... I agree T2 was the worst one. I disagree about Casino Royale, which was basically the same old business again and ultimately boring
Call me when the trailer hits
by Mace Tofu
Feb 19th, 2007
03:44:22 AM
After all these years of what-ifs lets talk when the trailer hits. My head hurts reading these post...
Jet Li as Shortround, CALLING FOR PETITION!
by Im rich bitch
Feb 19th, 2007
04:11:45 AM
Now this is an idea I would actually devote my fan boy love to..
I don't get the anger over this
by Franklin T Marmoset
Feb 19th, 2007
04:47:22 AM
This is a series that has already introduced a kid in part two, then a dad in part three, so it's not like this is a totally out of character addition a la Jar Jar. If Indy is older in this next film, it seems entirely plausible that he might have had a kid at some point. This business of having kids is, I hear, quite the growing trend among adults.
Spielberg is "The Beard"?
by Otter
Feb 19th, 2007
06:28:16 AM
Does that mean Kate Capshaw ia a lesbian? ;)
yeah Frankiln..
by Im rich bitch
Feb 19th, 2007
06:29:45 AM
I think the problem is that we all have waited sooo long to get back with the character we really love and not with some trendy, hip,happy meal annoying fucking bastard kid.. but yet if it was a loner as shortround was, the originality of the classic concept would please most of the people in here.
Indiana Jones and the Joint Custody Agreement
by Shaw
Feb 19th, 2007
07:03:26 AM
He and his son search for a lost artifact every other weekend
Indiana Jones and the Illegitimate Bastard
by Shaw
Feb 19th, 2007
07:09:46 AM
Indiana Jones goes on a quest to unearth an ancient scroll that holds the key to beating a paternity test
CAST EVANGELINE LILLY AS INDY'S DAUGHTER INSTEAD
by indy ravenwood
Feb 19th, 2007
07:21:59 AM
That would be more interesting -- she looks/acts a little like Karen Allen and she's a very talented actress --- I'd believe she'd be Indy's daughter and that would be SOOOOOOO much less gay than a father/son plot. We've seen that before.
FACT: T3 is fucking shit!
by Power_Girl
Feb 19th, 2007
08:25:19 AM
You kids who think T2 is bad need a head exam and then some medication.
Hmmm.....
by NachoNegro
Feb 19th, 2007
08:25:47 AM
Needless to say, if this is true, it stinks. I actually don't have any problem with Jones having a child. But make it a daughter. For many reasons (the nature of which require a longer forum to discuss), a son just will not work. I actually didn't have a problem with the Natalie Portman rumour - I could see that working, if done well. But a son? No. The problem is, Lucas is just stupid enough to do this. What I want is really quite simple - I want one last good Indiana Jones movie, with Sallah and Marion (and maybe even Willie), and I have no problem with Henry Sr. being in it either. I don't need this to be the start of a new franchise (Son of Indy etc.). If a daughter appears, fine, I'll deal with it - as long as she isn't the main focus of the film. But not a son.
Misnomer, that Latino Reviews interviewer is nuts...
by Triumph poops!
Feb 19th, 2007
09:16:00 AM
According to you, before being yanked offline, in his original interview that Latino Reviewer wrote (quote): "But it would make sense, considering Shia was born in 1986 and Raiders was released in 1981, if a fling with Willie in Temple created a Jones offspring, which was released in 1984, a bit closer to Shia's birth year."

A bit closer to Shia's birth year??? Uh, I hate to break this to another web site's resident Math whiz, but the fact that RAIDERS was released in '81 and TEMPLE in '84 is completely irrelevant to Shia being born in '86 SINCE THE MOVIES ARE SET IN THE THIRTIES.

Indiana Jones and the Quest for Levitra
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:21:32 AM
This is fun.
Indiana Jones and the Nursing Home of Doom
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:22:20 AM
I could go all day.
Indiana Jones and the Search for Ford's Career
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:23:00 AM
I went there.
Indiana Jones and the Original Star Wars Trilogy
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:25:32 AM
Indy discovers that Solo shot first, Boba Fett was not in every single scene of every movie, and Jabba was not in the hangar.
Indiana Jones and the Missing Audience from Firewall
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:26:10 AM
Ha!
Indiana Jones and the Greenscreen Menace
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:27:00 AM
That ones aimed at you George!
Indiana Jones and the Inexplicable Highwaters
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:27:40 AM
or...
Indiana Jones and the Mystery of Black Socks w/ Sandals
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:28:27 AM
...
Indiana Jones and the Gotta Eat Talkbackers
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:29:09 AM
I'm bored now.
Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Lucas Goiter
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:29:43 AM
low.
Indiana Jones and the Fanboy Basement Bedroom
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:30:29 AM
Now im done.
Indiana Jones and the Constant Left Turn Signal
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:31:56 AM
I swear I'm almost done.
Raiders of the Senior Night Salad Bar
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:33:57 AM
F-U-N-N-Y
Raiders of the Bowl of Free Hard Candy
by boba_rob
Feb 19th, 2007
09:34:50 AM
My G-mom loved her some hard candy.
Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones Jr.
by Stan Gable
Feb 19th, 2007
09:39:51 AM
If the last scene in Last Crusade is your favorite scene you might remember that little bit of dialog. As for not understanding why they would want to do an Indy IV, you are just an idiot. And fuck everyone who uses every article on Indy IV as an opportunity to create your own "Indiana Jones And The Insert Non-Funny Geriatric Reference Here" movie titles, you are all idiots.
Here's who they should introduce: TOM SELLECK
by Triumph poops!
Feb 19th, 2007
10:02:22 AM
Rather than seeing a young son or daughter introduced into this -- which frankly given what Lucas did with Jake Lloyd in PHANTOM MENACE and what Speilberg did with Malcolm's daughter in THE LOST WORLD and Dakota Fanning WOTW (in other words create crap kid characters who were so horrible that they were actually nausea inducing) -- if they really want to go the expanded family route, I'd rather have Connery back AND have Henry finally reveal that Indy has a brother out there, and HE joins in on the adventure this time.

Years ago there had been talk that THAT was the story angle they wanted to use for INDY 4. So I say resurrect that and do it with TOM SELLECK since he was supposed to BE Indiana Jones over Ford. Selleck only lost the role because CBS infamously wouldn't let him out of his MAGNUM PI contract -- the crock being that they hadn't even aired Magnum yet, it was still in the can as a pilot. However they didn't want to let go of someone that Speilberg was interested in. After all, he must know something they didn't!

Anyway, I think that would be far cooler thing to see onscreen than fucking Shia La Beouf. For crying out loud, even typing his name and THINKING about him being in the movie is nausea inducing! And if it can't be Selleck, use Dennis Quaid who still looks pretty damn great for his age since he was the other casting runner-up. But toss in Selleck (or Quaid), Connery and, HELL YES, Jet Li (or Jackie Chan) as a grown up Short Round and you'd have a fun, kick ass movie.

Of course all this all makes sense and would actually make for a GOOD Indy 4, but since Lucas and Speilberg have gotten old and totally lost it, we should instead count on Shia and something guaranteed to make us power vomit our popcorn...

triumph poops
by misnomer
Feb 19th, 2007
10:13:28 AM
I didnt even notice that! that guy is pretty crazy. The only reason I posted it was that it does kind of lend some credence to this rumour unfortunately.
Yackbacker
by one9deuce
Feb 19th, 2007
10:16:59 AM
I really hope your condensed version of Indiana Jones 4 is totally wrong. But even though everyone on here would hate that story, I think you're very close to what we'll end up seeing. At least you gave us an early warning!
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
by phaedrus007
Feb 19th, 2007
10:31:33 AM
Indy does not need a son! If Speilberg and Lucas have really gone creatively bankrupt enough to run out and film this ill conceived fan-rumor story, I'd rather they just skip the whole project.
Triumph poops!
by one9deuce
Feb 19th, 2007
10:32:17 AM
I don't know where you get your information, but it's completely wrong. Titanic came out a year and a half before The Phantom Menace, and The Phantom Menace fell short of Titanic's box office by about 900 million dollars. So no, Episode 1 was never the biggest hit of all-time, or even close for that matter. And nobody was saying people wouldn't show up for Episode 1 because the original cast weren't in it. If anything in history was a sure thing at the box office it was the first Star Wars Prequel. I guess you weren't around AICN in 1998. Or at Box Office Mojo ever.
PROJECT GREENLIGHT
by booth77
Feb 19th, 2007
10:52:46 AM
Anyone who saw this series knows what a douche Shia is. Why does Hollywood keep rewarding douchebags??? PLEASE Steven Spielberg: DO NOT DO THIS. YOU ARE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE. And whoever said Zooey Dechanel should play the daughter of Indy and Karen Allen is a genius.
Triumph poops!, again.
by one9deuce
Feb 19th, 2007
11:05:01 AM
Jackie Chan as a grown Short Round?!?! Jackie Chan is 52 years old! I guess you've never been to IMDB before.

To all posters suggesting Indy should be reluctant when going on this one last adventure, just stop. Please. That is the main reason (of many) that The Last Crusade sucks. Indiana Jones is extremely obsessive about acquiring what he's after in Raiders and Temple of Doom. To the point of putting anyone around him in danger if that's what it takes. The character was totally reworked for Last Crusade, to the point of being a different person. The whole "It belongs in a museum!" bullshit was the first thing they changed, and got wrong. "It belongs in a museum"? Since when?! He acquired the Ark of the Covenant for the United States Government. He acquired the last remains of Nurhachi for Lao Che, and was to be paid with a very large diamond. He acquired the Sankara Stone for the Indian villagers, and specifically said "it would just be in some museum collecting dust". And then they make him a reluctant adventurer. He doesn't even want to find the Holy Grail, he just wants to find his father, or feels as though he should find him. They had him perfect in Raiders when Belloq says "I am but a shadowy reflection of you. It would take only a nudge to make you like me. To push you out of the light". That is exactly who Indiana Jones is: obsessive, brilliant, and a mercenary/fortune hunter whose methods are questionable and dangerously close to being unscrupulous. I don't know who that guy in The Last Crusade is, but he isn't nearly as interesting.

The last shot of The Last Crusade is perfection though. It's a shame that riding off into the sunset isn't the last time we'll see Indiana Jones.

What's with he WOTW HATE???
by Gilkuliehe
Feb 19th, 2007
11:11:27 AM
Some dumbass here even says Independence Day was better. What the fuck, man? Did IQs suddenly drop when I was asleep? Go fuck yourselves, WOTW was fucking amazing.
The son Indiana Jones never knew he had
by acroyear77
Feb 19th, 2007
11:27:26 AM
I can see the last scene where Indiana hands over his whip and fedora to his son. A pathetic excuse to keep the series alive. I'd rather have them do prequels with a younger Indiana than sequels with his son.
One9Deuce...
by Triumph poops!
Feb 19th, 2007
11:58:14 AM
You're right, I had mentally reversed TITANIC and PM in terms of release. While I was typing what I was thinking about was how huge PHANTOM MENANCE opened and that given the media push it had behind it at the time... and given the zillion financial promotional tie-ins that were also behind it at the time...how most people and industry prognosticators thought if there was ever going to be a movie that would be so huge that it would easily topple TITANIC and become the new champ, it would be a STAR WARS film. And as people were tracking PM across the summer, I remember how everyone was STILL sure it would go on to become Number One, that its box office legs would hold up, but as you noted, it did ultimately fall short.

However for the notion that "nobody was saying no one would show up for Episode 1", I actually disagree with you a bit on that. There's no question that the very idea of a new SW film ranked high on most geek's wish lists and that anticipation for it grew more and more as it actually went into production -- that's all true. However when Lucas first announced that he'd be doing prequels (with an all-new cast) as opposed to doing SEQUELS (and bringing back the original stars) I definitely remember a very loud chorus of naysayers who thought that was a COLOSSAL mistake and that it WOULD ultimately affect the box office. And I remember that very, very vividly simply because being a lifelong SW fan, I remember being in many a heated argument online and in chat rooms