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Massawyrm Gets Dragged By GHOST RIDER!!

First by WOPR	Feb 16th, 2007 09:43:42 AM
Ghost rider gotta eat yadda, yadda, etc....
Another bad one from 2 I trust. That seals it. by isispop	Feb 16th, 2007 09:48:53 AM
That's Worm & Harry. That seals it for me. The few $s in my wallet will be spared bein burned by hellfire & will be burnt at the small con I'm attending this weekend in Metropolis instead.
Nic Cage the best part? by just pillow talk	Feb 16th, 2007 09:50:34 AM
That's bad. Just plain bad.
Great taglines, Wyrm ! Put 'em all on the one-sheet. by Pound Sand	Feb 16th, 2007 09:52:37 AM
"A 2 hour road trip from Blowstown to Sucksville.".... "A giant flaming turd racing down the highway at 200 MPH" .... "A defeated sigh." ...... "(a)startling lack of logic and creativity. " ........ "a fucking skeleton on a motorcycle?" ... "fall in love with his Directors Cut."
Really hoped this would be good. It really fucking isn' by Steve Rogers	Feb 16th, 2007 09:54:51 AM
That's 2 strikes and out then for MSJ. He had a shot - TWICE - and fucked them both. Should he really get a 3rd chance at bat with Preacher, one of the greatest comics EVER???!?!
Lemme guess, no one from AICN was invited... by googamooga	Feb 16th, 2007 09:58:21 AM
...To any behind the scenes junkets when the movie was filming, so for that perceived injustice, this movie will be awarded the label of "suck"? AICN's reviews suck, this movie looks cool, I'll see it. Period.
Massawyrm riding a gigantic phalic symbol.... by the_shogun_gunslinger	Feb 16th, 2007 09:59:42 AM
no suprise there.
....the police are BAFFLED by captainCAPSLOCK	Feb 16th, 2007 10:00:16 AM
LOL SO TRUE SO TRUE
It all begins with the script. by Uncapie	Feb 16th, 2007 10:00:23 AM
"If the script don't fit, you must acquit!" Bad script, bad film. I would see this only for Sam Elliot. The guy could read the phone book and sound cool. He rules!
Ghostrider was always a second tier hero anywho by Reelheed	Feb 16th, 2007 10:06:04 AM
not going to miss this as it slips off the top films chart
Massawyrm = TOOL! by PhantomSpazzz	Feb 16th, 2007 10:07:59 AM
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Daredevil sucked ass!!! Why should this be good? by fanboy71	Feb 16th, 2007 10:08:57 AM
BUT, as my son is 10, and thinks this will rule all, I will have to sit through it tomorrow. At least we'll have some bonding time. Maybe when we get home, I'll break out some Ghost Rider comics and show him why the movie sucked so bad.
Ghost Who? by Philvis	Feb 16th, 2007 10:09:34 AM
That's what most people have been saying since the first trailers came out. 1 in 1000 people(if not less) have actually heard of Ghost Rider prior to this movie coming out. Simply put, I will see this movie for entertainment value alone. It looks fun enough. I know who Ghost Rider is, but never read a comic book of it, so I am going to be entertained, not to see an Oscar contender. It's not like I am going to see something like Turistas or Boogeyman.
Flash Gordon did not suck by c4andmore	Feb 16th, 2007 10:14:24 AM
Flash AAAA-AAAAH, was an awesome cheesefest. Just saying is all.
Peter Fonda as the devil! by CTU Mole	Feb 16th, 2007 10:15:15 AM
...cause he was in Easy Rider. How awesome is that? None? None awesome? That is correct. I don't think this film is aimed for anyone here. Cage said quite clearly that this is basically a kid's film.
fanboy 71 by just pillow talk	Feb 16th, 2007 10:16:07 AM
At least you are going into it with a gameplan. If not now, I'm sure your son will see how the comics are superior.
Where did the Magic 8 Ball come from? by jdeuce222001	Feb 16th, 2007 10:19:25 AM
This movie was REALLY bad. If you go see it watch for the magic 8 ball that comes out of no where in a scene with Eva "I can't act" Mendes.
Is this really surprising? by Neo Zeed	Feb 16th, 2007 10:22:12 AM
I mean it's Mark Steven Johnson for cryin' out loud.
Did you read Harry's review??? by timmer33	Feb 16th, 2007 10:34:36 AM
Hey, Massawyrm, did you read Harry's review? Here's a quote from yours: "(Cage's) decade long quest to play a comic book character finally complete, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be able to say he half-assed it at all. Whether you like him or not is the big question – but he’s absolutely leaving it all out there." Harry's review paints a totally different picture. I think Harry said Cage was just "phoning it in!" He thought Cage was brutal in the film!
yeah...just read about what Cage said... by Datascream	Feb 16th, 2007 10:34:55 AM
"...It's something for the family" Ghost Rider? Are you fucking kidding me? A demon with a flaming skull? fighting demons that want to eat your soul or whatever? Does he even HAVE a family? I was just plain wrong in thinking he was good for this roll. They could have made an R rated film. But he wanted to make it a PG-13 teen movie? Let's stop letting the actors make decisions from now on okay Hollywood? Jesus...
Domestic BO predictions anyone? by DirkD13"	Feb 16th, 2007 10:42:22 AM
I'll say it'll do about Constantine numbers and top out at $75 million. As for here, I reckon it won't go past £8 million.
Tickle Me Emo and Company by Doctor_Sin	Feb 16th, 2007 10:46:41 AM
I wish I had a flaming-skull bounty hunter to activate. This sums up the flick nicely. Cage either comes off like general Nic Cage dryness or as horrific, depending on if you like him or not. You like him, this will be a great performance. You don't, this blows. Easy. Scriptwriters need to rewatch the first Superman to be reminded of how to pace the human element and balance it with heroic daring-do.
Take this guy off Preacher HBO by SoupDragon	Feb 16th, 2007 10:52:49 AM
Simon Birch, seesaw fights and now this. Do not let him near Preacher.
The Dare Devil playground fight, anyone? by Cymbol	Feb 16th, 2007 11:13:10 AM
How are we supposed to take that movie seriously? Dare Devil was a poorly directed movie. And any director who thinks a fight on a playground (the cleanest playground I've ever seen in a city) is a great scene involving to iconic superheroes, needs to never be given a comicbook movie again. (Would they seriouly try to fight each other in front of children?) The studio has no one to blame but themselves for getting a by-the-numbers movie. If you want a great movie, get a great director. What could have been. . . .
The death of Preacher by Affleckwasthebomb	Feb 16th, 2007 11:14:31 AM
I like a lot of people had not really heard of Ghost rider before this movie was announced so I don't hold it in my heart or anything. This to me will just be either a stupid fun movie and total tripe(I am leaning towards the latter) What I do hold dear to my heart is Preacher and by the sounds of it Preacher will probably end up never seeing the light of day after this. Even if it does get made can the guy make it? I've read that he intends to keep as close to the books as possible and Ennis was telling him he didn't need too but I'm worried. really really worried.
Hey googamooga by johnnykool	Feb 16th, 2007 11:30:17 AM
I'm in total agreement with you. I bet money these guys didn't get their dicks sucked by anyone involved with the film, so they're going to call it the biggest turd since the dawn of time. I never pay attention to reviews here and this movie will be no different. I'm going in 60 minutes.
Love your avatar again by quentintarantado	Feb 16th, 2007 11:38:43 AM
Now, are those two sandworms with one trying to eat Harry, or is it just one big sandworm that's actually Harry's dick, and it plunges into the sand and comes out near Massawyrm?
Coincidentally, this negative review is up after Harrys by Mike_D	Feb 16th, 2007 11:40:31 AM
Massawyrm doesnt like anything anyways.
The skeleton-on-a-motorcylce concept... by Some Dude	Feb 16th, 2007 11:59:58 AM
...reached its apex in Castlevania 64. Seriously, you open a door into a hallway and BAM a motorcyce riding skeleton creeps up on your ass. Oh, this was in the 1800s, I think. I hope it makes it to the movie.
Did anyone actually think this would be good? by PhillipMarlowe	Feb 16th, 2007 12:21:34 PM
I mean seriously? It just had "lame" written all over it. On a side note, that sandworm seriously looks like a penis. Kind of disturbing, really.
Skeletons on motorcycles by Doctor_Sin	Feb 16th, 2007 12:29:17 PM
Now - if someone wanted to remake the British film "Psychomania", that could do with an update - and make the zombified bikers more skeletal and evil looking. Just leave out the frog. Keep the motorcycle bursting up from out of the grave, though.
Castlevania 64! by Saluki	Feb 16th, 2007 12:29:33 PM
Everyone bitched, but that skeleton on motorcycle stuff was the best next to the chainsaw welding Frankenstein. No doubt. Ghost Rider? Has the character been popular at all since the early 80's?
the campy aren’t we so damned clever witticisms... by bc1970	Feb 16th, 2007 12:42:58 PM
are everywhere. They are exactly why I'm glad Whedon is off WW and Kevin Smith never did a comic movie. If this is truly Hell, Judd Winnick will get attached to WW. He's guilty of knee-slappingly subtle banter as well.
shame. msj seemed to be passionate and know by misnomer	Feb 16th, 2007 12:43:21 PM
what he was talking about on the superherohype.com forums. ah well...I wasn't really convinced by the trailers. This'll be a download me thinks.....
...theres always hot fuzz- by misnomer	Feb 16th, 2007 12:43:56 PM
...theres always hot fuzz- cant wait to see it in an hour.
I strongly disagree with the "cops baffled"-part by We	Feb 16th, 2007 12:45:22 PM
First, I haven't seen the film, and I don't read comic books. If something what Massawyrm suggests would happen in a film, where someone utters something cutesy like "not another superhero etc", and it weren't a sequel to something where superheroes had already been established and accepted, I'd be totally taken out of the experience. It would totally be breaking my suspension of disbelief, and I'd cringe at the corniness of it. IMHO, in a comic book movie, the public reaction to the superheroes is absolutely vital. Not only to establish a sense of awe, but to root it in reality somewhat. But on the other hand, I suppose it works without it when the film's target audience lives in a world where superheroes are commonplace. Damn geeks.
Preacher-Paddy Considine by Spartacus Hughs	Feb 16th, 2007 12:46:43 PM
Directed by Chris Cunningham.
You have to be a fairly sophisticated director to by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 12:49:28 PM
really pull off superhero films or a genre film. The characters are archtypes and essentially myths. An adolescent or condescending approach to superheroes is a major mistake (see Michael Bay's Transformers). If you shoot a myth like a 2 hour Evanescance video, you get one of Johnson's superhero films. You almost wonder at this point if Johnson really hates superheroes.
I propose a ban on non-Mexican directors by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 12:51:47 PM
making superhero or fantasy films. At least for 10 years. Which means Curaon needs to direct all superhero and fantasy films in the near future.
Agreed on the shared universe approach. by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 12:53:41 PM
The audience has seen enough superhero films and is familiar enough with the superhero origin story to be sophisticated enough to understand the Marvel U has many heroes coexisting in it. These movies should be getting more sophisticated and they are not.
Oh Bullshit, Saw it last night and IT FUCKING ROCKED by hatespeech	Feb 16th, 2007 12:56:59 PM
LOSER REVIEW
"archtypes and essentially myths" - exactly by Doctor_Sin	Feb 16th, 2007 12:58:01 PM
I have always said that I will forever regret Stanley Kubrick not directing some graphic novel for the big screen. Sure, he would've done "his own thing" with the material. Pissed everyone off, probably. But, the end result would no doubt have been a brilliant masterpiece. Older directors like John Ford would have made EXCELLENT superhero films (they, in essence, did in a way). John Frankenheimer, at his peak, could have been THE comic book director. Sadly, directors with the kinds of visions that made these giants and others so great...just can't be found that much in Hollywood.
Massawyrm Endures a 2-Hour Penance Stare by Squashua	Feb 16th, 2007 01:00:21 PM
You should have led with your last line.
I agree, Dr. Sin. Where is a Kubrick today? by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 01:04:41 PM
Certainly not in the "top" directors of Hollywood right now. Also, Sergio Leone basically made comic book movies and very good ones at that.
Actually it's three strikes and out for MSJ by Dasher	Feb 16th, 2007 01:20:31 PM
He was one of the writers and producers of "Elektra." No more comic book movies for this guy.
The playground scene was weak by kilik777	Feb 16th, 2007 01:37:18 PM
I admit but the rest of it was solid. I still have faith that it will be bubblegum enjoyement even after all the negative reviews. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
29% by Yogsoggoth	Feb 16th, 2007 01:42:34 PM
at rottentomatoes. I'm not saying that hatespeech, johnnykool, and googamooga are studio plants. Oh, hell with it, yes I am. The first trailer was enough to show that this film was going to suck a big fat cock. Anyone that goes to see this shit stain, deserves whatever they get.
Mark Steven Johnson - 0 for 2 by Rupee88	Feb 16th, 2007 01:59:37 PM
The sad thing is that I get the impression that his heart is in the right place and he wants to make a good movie. He just doesn't have it, I guess.
Fantastic Four by longshot7	Feb 16th, 2007 02:03:32 PM
was good. And I love the comics - what were you expecting? Hamlet?
MSJ wants to make the ultimate comic book film by Doctor_Sin	Feb 16th, 2007 02:08:28 PM
But studio execs won't let him. He needs to be left alone to shine and a great movie might come out of it. Unfortunately, he's been given his 3. I really only hated the mushiness of DD's love story - it seemed forced. But, the Director's Cut changed all that - it's a different film. In GR, Nic Cage and the studio wanted a PG-13 kids-actioner. Without interference, who knows what we would have gotten. I say, yeah - MSJ's track record is so far 0-3...but I would give him another shot without hesitation if he was left alone and didn't have to consult with reps from the studio's toy franchise and marketing dept.
this movie was suppossed to come out one year ago by hif4life	Feb 16th, 2007 02:11:17 PM
so what makes you think it will be any good, obviously everyone involved on this film knew they had made a turd... so its not surprising to me that it will suck...and to those that say mark steven johnson is a very passionate director therefore his movies should be good, well, soo was ed wood
Daredevil Movie sucks. If you examine the character by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 02:31:58 PM
in the comics, Daredevil the movie is a whiny, teen angst revenge fantasy set to Evanescance. And that is being kind. It has none of the maturity or dramatic weight of the character whatsoever.
Eva Mendez by Duke of Hurl	Feb 16th, 2007 02:52:12 PM
I'm totally NOT defending this flick, but Massawyrm, dude... why the negativity about Eva's cleavage?
why is it... by Bloo	Feb 16th, 2007 02:53:05 PM
tht I have to come on here and defend Daredevil all the time! Ok that was whining on my part. However DD was not...in superninja's words "a whiny, teen angst revenge fantasy set to Evanescance" DD, in both versions, shows us a man compelled to fight for the underdog weather in court or on the streets. My perception of DD, and I'm not a DD comic book reader, so please take this into consideration, but my perception of DD from the movie is that he is someone who doesn't really enjoy being a superhero. That's he looking for the right way before going the vigilante way. He does it because he's seeking, not vengence but redemtion. Yes he seeks vengence for Elektra's death and as a bounus gets his father's killer (which was yes movie convientant). Elektra (the movie) on the other hand was just...weird
Kubrick? boycott so they stop making this fucking trash by Im rich bitch	Feb 16th, 2007 02:58:29 PM
I just about had it with this. There is nothing worth watching anymore, this shit is killing it folks.. That was a whole lotta fucking money put in to this, I mean, are people really so damn mindless, how can you live with yourself greenlighting so much cash to produce garbage? Is that how fucking careless and evil they are? Boycott this shit. Boycott, stop financing they're shitty movies, drug habits, and fake lives.. there is no comeback of the Kubricks unless you, the customer, are asking for one, and the way it looks it's not happening.. thanks god for asia and europe.
Everett, I see your point. Those themes by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 03:18:13 PM
are touched on in the film, but in my opinion, they are communicated in a superficial way. Just mentioning them does not mean they resonate with the viewer. For me the strongest character in DD is Elektra - but she was not supposed to be the center of the film. All of this guy's films are superficial. He has no subtlety, it's all about fake coolness and not connecting with the characters in any real way. Normally, I disagree with Harry, but his review correctly pointed this out about this director in my opinion. It's all style and no substance. I think Del Toro's films have been guilty of this as well (I haven't seen Pan's), but not to the degree of Johnson's.
Cristophe Gans needs to make a superhero film by Doctor_Sin	Feb 16th, 2007 03:19:26 PM
"Brotherhood of the Wolf" was everything "coulda-been" about comic-book movies. Has he made that pulp-adventure movie he wanted to do as follow up yet? I think it was based on a French pulp hero or something.
A plant? I wish... by googamooga	Feb 16th, 2007 03:27:43 PM
No, my problem is that when it comes to this site, it seems that the movies that get the best reviews are the movies that Harry, or some other member of the staff got to visit while the film was in production, etc. Mark my words, EVERY reviewer on this site is going to give a positive review for Transformers (and btw, that's cool with me because I'm looking forward to that one, despite the haters).
I knew it... by justcheckin	Feb 16th, 2007 04:16:41 PM
but I'll rent it anyway.
Yes, I wonder why the double standard for TF by superninja	Feb 16th, 2007 04:34:01 PM
The TF script is not better than the GR script. The cast is certainly not better.
ugh by BloodyUnderwear	Feb 16th, 2007 04:51:25 PM
from the moment that nick cage was announced,my hopes for a decent ghost rider flick were done. the trailers have done nothing to make me think this would be anything other than a wet fart.
'You fuckin disrespectin fuckin Flash-fuckin-Gordon??!? by Laserbrain	Feb 16th, 2007 05:03:11 PM
That's it. You've lost me.
Ghost Rider vs. Earth, Wind and Fire by BannedOnTheRun	Feb 16th, 2007 05:10:20 PM
"Let's show these emo kids the power of the groove!"
Kubrick? by Neo Zeed	Feb 16th, 2007 05:17:50 PM
Shitty superhero movies like Ghost Rider doesn't hold back the future Kubricks of America. If anything they hold back the future James Camerons of America. The ones who want to make edgy & original action movies and not worry about tween demographics (and happy meals, etc.)
Just saw it... by johnnykool	Feb 16th, 2007 05:23:13 PM
It had a few minor flaws, but I could get past them. I'm a reader of the classic Ghost Rider and the revamp from the early 90s - this was a decent translation to the big screen while still reaching out to an audience who might not know the character. I also need to say I now have a huge crush on Eva Mendez. Every scene she was in she exuded sex. Holy mother of God, she's hot. Cage did a decent job in this rold. I'm not a fan of his, but with the material at hand, he did great. Hey Yogsoggoth, FUCK YOU. I'm not a planet you dumbshit, just someone who doesn't need their hand held by fat redheaded men when choosing movies.
johnnykool, thanks for the level-headed post by Doctor_Sin	Feb 16th, 2007 05:52:36 PM
I disagree about getting past minor flaws...but, hey - who says everyone must think alike? I'm just glad you took the time to give us your honest opinion - it's been a day full of "All u whiny geeks r teh suxx!!1!" around here. Eva Mendez is smoking, no doubt there. I never really cared for the 90s reboot of GR. I'm one of those old farts who sticks with the classic. :)
The worms from Lynch's Dune ... by bender7	Feb 16th, 2007 06:29:52 PM
did look like penises though
I agree with Johnnycool by Thenedain	Feb 16th, 2007 06:41:42 PM
Just got back from seeing it and it was actually pretty good. The acting certainly wasn't abyssmal, and in fact Cage did a pretty good job. The decision to take the best parts of the multiple Ghost Rider stories/characters while sticking to Johnny Blaze as the actual Ghost Rider character was a good one. If anything, it's biggest flaw is the same as any superhero film where you have to tell the origin story: too much time spent explaining the character's powers/background. My biggest gripes with it are actually pretty minor and come from being a long time GR fan. I didn't mind the Unseen getting their asses kicked easily: they filled the mindless cannon fodder thug role decently enough, but I would have liked oooler henchmen. With all the Ghost Rider villains, they could have used something more interesting. WARNING SLIGHTLY SPOILERIFIC: I would have liked to have seen Blackheart in his comics demon form, at least for the final fight. I didn't mind his human form much, but I've always kind of liked his big scary demon look. All in all: it's not a bad movie. MSJ did an okay job with what is essentially a fairly goofy Marvel character and managed to make a fun movie. It's not Shakespeare by any standard, but it certainly ain't Uwe Boll either.
superninja by Bloo	Feb 16th, 2007 06:56:15 PM
thanks for the response man. Anyways, yeah I can see how it can be viewed in a superficial way maybe I just looked deeper into the movie and saw what was being attempted. Now regarding GR I'm seeing it as a matinee tomorrow so what's 4 bucks
Kinda puzled by Volstaff	Feb 16th, 2007 07:17:05 PM
I just got home from seeing it, and like some of the other fellas here, I actually liked it. The things I liked and disliked about the movie were things I liked and disliked about the comics. None of the villains they can come up with will ever be as cool looking or badass as the Rider. I do agree that the 3 henchman were just kind of there waiting to be killed, and I would have liked them to cut back on the campy one liners. But Ghost Rider and the effects looked good to me, Nick Cage did a good job of selling Johny Blaze. I hate to say it, but I really think Harry wants to torpedo the film and basically put the word out to all his reviewers- trash the movie.Why I dunno, maybe because one of his friends had a badass Gr screenplay that was passed over in favor of this? Kind of like how he wanted all his boys to universally come all over themselves over Peter Jackson's self indulgent and way overrated King Kong and trash Narnia ( another movie I actually liked).. Listen,it aint a great flick ( not as good as Spidey 2, but better than Daredevil and the Punisher), and I'm tired of comic book movies at this point, but it's a pretty damn good popcorn movie. And frankly if you don't think a guy with a flaming skull riding a kickass flaming bike isn't cool, then you need to go be a florist or something.
It was a good movie... by The_Closet_Nerd	Feb 16th, 2007 08:03:55 PM
and I completely agree with Volstaff. I thought Nicholas Cage played the whole thing great. His acting while undergoing the transformation was spot on. He looked like he was in pain, but damn if he didn't look like he was enjoying it too. The madness of it all came through perfectly. As for the Blackheart, he was good. What the hell do people want? He was the son of the Devil and that's what he looked like. Pale, dark hair and eyes, black clothes...these emo dorks look like HIM (they want to look evil and outcast), not the other way around. And yes, the 3 element demons got their asses handed to them, but that's because they figured they could take Ghost Rider, no problem. You can see it in any bar on a Saturday night, guy gets drunk, guy mouths off to someone because he thinks he can take them, guy gets knocked out. These 4 villains were young, inexperienced, and unprepared, and they got beat. It was a great movie, and a hell of a lot of fun. I had to tell my son (who's 7½) to keep quiet a few times because he kept saying "Whoa, that is so cool" quite loudly while I was thinking the same thing. The flaming skull looked just like what it was supposed to look like...a flaming skull. I don't know what you could have done different or how you could have improved it. It came off like they lifted it right out of the comic book. Overall, I thought it was very well done. Cage, Sam Elliot, Peter Fonda...great acting all around. You know, if they bring out a comic book movie that everyone actually likes (other then Spidey) I might have a heart attack right in my chair.
This review is 100% free of 'Harry-isms' by RKDN Del Sol	Feb 16th, 2007 08:54:36 PM
Nice to read a review of this movie that doesn't divert itself into a monolgue about what your significant other ate for dinner last Thursday evening at the Olive Garden.
It's MendeS, for fuck's sake by Osmosis Jones	Feb 16th, 2007 10:10:54 PM
And this film honestly has a "flaming initials" scene?! That's, what, a dozen superhero movies to date that've had the hero's initals or logo outlined in flame? Does ANYONE think that's cool anymore? The funniest version of this was in The Punisher, where Thomas Jane blows up a bunch of cars, and we see an overhead shot of the flaming debris in (yes) the shape of his chest-logo skull. So, what, he spent an entire afternoon carefully arranging cars in the parking lot until he was sure they'd form his logo when they blew up? Who was he trying to impress with that, God? Random traffic helicopters?
All of you fucking fanboys.......... by Moon_Knight	Feb 16th, 2007 10:52:52 PM
Are going to see this flick. The bad reviews only make me want to see it more.
Akiva Goldsman Sucks by Horace Cox	Feb 16th, 2007 11:47:49 PM
Gotta love any review that disses that two-bit hack Akiva Goldsman. I'd pay to watch Uwe Boll kick his ass. Can someone at AICN set it up?
Sacrilege time: X3 NOT BAD! FF is...OK... by HappyHamster	Feb 17th, 2007 01:18:34 AM
A bunch of people legitimately enjoyed X3. I was one. I think most of the problem with X3 is actually with the director, Ratner, an incredibly successful director. FF is an OK film. It's worth a rental or watching on HBO...or perhaps even a matinee. It's not great, but reviewers here (and just about everywhere) cannot review "nerd-centric" movies in measured tones.
Oh yeah and this movie is NOT THAT BAD! by HappyHamster	Feb 17th, 2007 01:21:12 AM
As someone mentioned, it ain't Spider man 2 or Superman...but that's fine. I didn't feel like I wasted my money seeing this movie.
DD (Director Cut) > X3 > FF > GR > a colonoscopy by Doctor_Sin	Feb 17th, 2007 01:23:07 AM
a colonoscopy > an oozing penile sore > Having Harry complain about a droplet of his buttsweat trickling down his scrotum> B&R and BF
Loved Flash Gordon and I completely enjoyed Ghost Rider by Thunder Mammoth	Feb 17th, 2007 02:18:55 AM
either i'm fcked up and had a great time with these movies, or i'm fcked up and had an excellent time with these movies... kinda a Win/Win for me. Sorry you don't have a sense of humor, Massasperm.
This movie is better than Daredevil. by superninja	Feb 17th, 2007 02:51:12 AM
I even think it's better than the Hulk. Like the Hulk, the ending sucks. But it seemed to me they tried to create a complete character and it is actually pretty faithful to the different incarnations of Ghost Rider.
People are right - the movie is worth seeing. by superninja	Feb 17th, 2007 02:54:20 AM
No one is playing their part 100% straight - it is meant to be campy and they know it. It's really mostly an action comedy with a few scares thrown in. Cage is as good in this as he was in National Treasure, he's deadpan and quirky and when he's over the top it works with the story. Slowest parts are the action scenes unfortunately, but they are still entertaining. There was only one moment I hated for being so juvenile, but all in all, pretty entertaining.
Enough with reviewers slamming on X3 already. by Warcraft	Feb 17th, 2007 03:25:53 AM
It was a good movie. Anything wrong with it could be laid at Bryan Singer's feet for what he set up with the first two movies. Ratner just did the best he could with an already flawed trilogy.
Thank goodness I don't read comic books.... by Darth_Gonz	Feb 17th, 2007 03:32:52 AM
.....because I can go see comic book movies without having a nerd-fit about continuity problems. This is a popcorn flick, people. Go to it expecting no more, and no less.
FF is way better than X3 by Knugen	Feb 17th, 2007 05:17:59 AM
At least FF was FUN!
superninja - there are no kubrick's in hollywood by kwisatzhaderach	Feb 17th, 2007 07:41:28 AM
i'm struggling to think of any talented directors in Hollywood at all...Fincher (Panic Room was pretty average though), Nolan - thats about it.
Ghost Rider was great. by W3bzpinn3r	Feb 17th, 2007 08:23:22 AM
Don't know what Harry and Missyworm were smoking, but I found this movie to perfectly capture the tone of the comics. The Ghost Rider comics were FULL of crappy dialog, bad puns, and lame plot devices. I EXPECT that from the movie. Who the hell watches "Ghost Rider" expecting "My Dinner with Andre, the Flaming Skull"? This isn't arthouse film making. It's a 2hr romp thru a ridiculous yet fun comic book character's world. So far, I've enjoyed most Marvel Comic-to-film. They are far from "Seven Samurai" but they are a LOT better than the primordial ooze spit out by Luca$ and $peilberg these days.
Yeah, I am with you there kwi. My favorite by superninja	Feb 17th, 2007 01:16:48 PM
director right now is Curaon, but I don't think you could consider him Hollywood. In fact, it turns out Kubrick was right in that if you make it in Hollywood, it means that you actually suck and have no soul. I mean, look at Speilberg these days.
Mendes is hot by liljuniorbrown	Feb 17th, 2007 01:29:59 PM
Cage did an awesome job with what he was handed.To much comedy? Yes!!! The y should have watched the Blade films then watched Constatine and said now do what they did with Blade 1 and 2 (not a fan of much from 3) and embrace your inner Constantine and you've got it. I mean really, Blackheart should have been played just like The lead singer from Bush's charactor in Constatine with more meaness and hatred and the devil in that film was not bad either.
This isn't a Talkback... it's a RAIN FOREST by Daddylonghead	Feb 17th, 2007 03:10:14 PM
nobody who wasn't on payroll could enjoy a movie this retarded.
AICN Headline I'd like to see by Rob SoLF	Feb 17th, 2007 03:46:26 PM
"'Ghostrider 2' to be directed by Robert Rodriquez" I didn't much like Daredevil. I liked this flick better, but probably only because GR is probably my fave Marvel Character. There was good stuff in it. The emerging from the water scene was perfect GR. The helicopter scene again was perfect GR. The non-fight sequences with GR in them were great. The fights were entirely lacking in imagination. Nick was fine. Sam was fine, though poorly used. REALLY poorly used. GR's bike sounded like a 5 alarm chili fart. Ending was HORRIBLE. Fire MSJ, get an audio guy that knows what COOL sounds like, and do GR2.
what were you expecting by smackfu	Feb 17th, 2007 04:01:46 PM
Somethings work on film, some inherently don't. Oh, and that Flash movie that they're thinking of making? Gonna suck. How the fuck could a movie about a guy that runs fast be even remotely entertaining? That Wonder Woman movie that Whedon finally came to his senses and bailed on? Gonna suck. If they retain ANY traditional elements of Wonder Woman, deflecting shit with her bracelets, lassoing people, flying an invisible fucking jet...wearing that dumbass costume...it's gonna be unintentionally funny from start to finish. If they do away with all that stuff...It's Buffy the Vampire slayer fighting criminals instead of vampires. Iron Man has the potential to be watchable, but in the end it will be Fantastic Four but with more interesting CGI. A Dr Strange movie? Are you on COKE?! Spiderman, X-Men, Batman and Superman work because they are cultural ICONS and (with the exception of Superman) are as interesting outside the suit as inside, and present personal experiences we can indentify with. Screwing up and making amends, being persecuted for being different, feeling alienated, struggling with desires for vengence. Compare that with building a robot suit because you're crippled, or being the princess of an amazon people who lassos people in a pageant costume, or being a stunt driver cursed into transforming into a bike rider with a FUCKING FLAMING SKELETON HEAD. Surely people must realize these things are too aburd to be made into movies that can be taken seriously...
Its ok by MaulRat	Feb 17th, 2007 06:26:57 PM
Certainly not the major trainwreck it could have been, Elliot rocks in everything he does, Cage is ok, MendeS is a pedestrian but i don't mind seeing her cross the street every once in a while.. Took my wife and 9 yo nephew to it and he and I were of the same opinion it was ok, not great, but a decent waste of a couple of hours and we were glad we went... OH... and to the choad who said "i sure as shit aint plunking down 13 bux to see some kids movie".. you're right.. you shouldn't go see it because kids will enjoy it.. because that just wouldn't be manly enough.. if I see a kids movie, chicks wont want to touch your dingdong later in life. I just think its funny you protest about seeing a PG13 movie, and in the same breathe delcaring your undying love for fucking comic book cannon... go listen to your drowning pool mp3s and masturbate some more, that ought to make you feel better.
I'm still in two minds... by DuncanDisorderly	Feb 17th, 2007 06:28:29 PM
when it comes to this film i'm torn somewhat. this film is directed by mark steven johnson whom took a second-tier character named daredevil and turned him into Ben ( American Hugh Grant ) Affleck. I actually fell asleep during daredevil and this was in a packed cinema! However, how can a film containing both Nicholas Cage and Sam Elliot be appaling? can an actual Ghost Rider fan ( like myself! )whom has seen the film and place an opinion. i'd really appreciate it. thanks!
The GR demon reminded me of Lobo. by superninja	Feb 17th, 2007 08:36:31 PM
It seemed to me there were two distinct personalities until towards the end of the film when Johnny begins to control the demon.
Hey TomBodet, by mrfan	Feb 17th, 2007 09:09:57 PM
I would love to see a Dr. Strange movie.
Lighten the fuck up. by FuzzyWhisper	Feb 17th, 2007 09:50:11 PM
Ghost Rider is a tidy little piece of comic entertainment that kicks X-Men 3's bloody ass and easily surpasses Fantastic 4 with its simplistic but cohesive plot, strong effects and fun performances. This isn't a masterpiece, but it's not meant to be. Anyone with realistic expectations and enough intellectual ability to treat this this film as the campy sideshow it is will have a great time.
HUGE disappointment by Vern	Feb 18th, 2007 12:02:22 AM
I shoulda known better after DAREDEVIL, but the trailers for this were so hilarious I really thought this would be good for some laughs. Yes, DAREDEVIL was asinine (if the director's cut is still about a chubby blind guy in a red gimp suit fighting a guy who flicks deadly peanuts at people then no, I don't believe you that it's good) but I figured it might be more entertaining if the hero was a burning skeleton who swings around like spider-man WHILE RIDING A MOTORCYCLE. This is the laughfest that the trailer promised us but, sadly, no dice. It's just a boring, 100% imagination free love story between two personality-less "characters," punctuated by long, awkward failed attempts at humor. Even the dude in the spider-man t-shirt at my showing didn't laugh once. There are lots of effects but they aren't all that funny and not even the skull looks real. Maybe they shoulda CGId some flames on a puppet. It WAS kind of funny when his dad died, but not THAT funny. I have a question for you comic strip readers. Does it bother you when they do a movie like this, where they have this premise that it's about a skeleton on a motorcycle, but then they are embarrassed to actually make a movie about that without having five or six scenes where the characters make fun of how silly it is? It seems to me like they are telling the audience they are stupid for wanting to see a movie about what they just made a movie about. I don't understand where Master Worm is coming from though because I thought both X-Man 3 and The Punisher were enjoyable movies. This is nowhere near the same category. It is arguably slightly less asinine than DAREDEVIL, but more boring than ELEKTRA. Not as bad as SPAWN or BATMAN AND ROBIN. Not fit to wipe the ass of BLADE or BARBARELLA. I haven't seen POPEYE in a long time so I'm not sure how it compares to that. And I don't think there's a Snoopy movie but this is probaly worse than the Snoopy movie if there is one. thanks. p.s. maybe tied with GARFIELD 1 (I haven't seen part 2)
Actually Vern by Neo Zeed	Feb 18th, 2007 01:23:18 AM
I don't have a problem with Ghost Rider as a premise or look. If handled with actual menace (like it's supposed to), proper lighting, some practical special effects (like Blade 2 or The Crow) a biker with a burning skull dishing out vengeance is cool. It doesn't even have to deal with spandex cheese and could've been the next Blade. Handled by a fucking cheeseball like Mark Steven Johnson on the other hand....well you know the rest.
Vern- for once I disagree with you by Mike_D	Feb 18th, 2007 02:22:45 AM
I actually liked it. Yea, the dialouge could have used to work...but the movie as a whole wasnt THAT BAD. Its a comic book movie. Once again though, its a movie that the critics may not like but the general public loves and will do even better in DVD sales.
Mike D by Vern	Feb 18th, 2007 03:24:16 AM
Well that is my complaint, it's not bad enough to be enjoyable and definitely not good enough to be enjoyable. I'm glad you enjoyed the movie though. It's making a surprising amount of money out of the gate, but I will be shocked if "the general public loves it" like you said. The group I saw it with (who unlike me probaly expected to like it) all came out yawning. I'm not saying it's as embarassingly stupid as some comic book movies such as SPAWN, BATMAN AND ROBIN and DAREDEVIL, although that thing about the jellybeans was pushing it. And the monkeys. And the magic 8 ball. But for me personally there were no interesting characters, no memorable action scenes, no impressive special effects, none of the things I look for in a motion picture of this type. As I wrote in my review, BLADE proves that you shouldn't lower the standards for something like this and say it's okay 'cause it's just a comic book movie. Because Blade the blaxploitation half-vampire super hero should be almost as silly as the burning skeleton motorcycle man, but they treated the concept seriously, created great characters and put them in a captivating story full of classic action scenes and quotable dialogue. And then they arguably improved on it in the sequel. And even the not as good third one is more fun than GHOST RIDER. If Blade was in this movie he'd laugh at Ghost Rider's motorcycle, call him a cracker, then rip out his spine and use it to eviscerate the evil rock band that's after him. The movie would be over in less than ten minutes, including the end credits. And it would be a better movie. But that's just me, I'm glad you got your money's worth, thanks for the comments Mike and you too Neo Zeed.
No prob Vern by Neo Zeed	Feb 18th, 2007 04:50:34 AM
Thanks for keepin' it real. They'll probably promise a GR sequel with a "harder take" or some shit. I don't think I can muster up the excitement.
7 year olds love it ! Oh the HORROR ... by Mace Tofu	Feb 18th, 2007 05:00:42 AM
In the Harry talkback some plant says "I took our 11 year old daughter to see it tonight and we all LOVED it! Cool special effects, a good amount of humor, and a decent love story. At the end of the film the audience even clapped! This will be a huge hit. Can't wait for the sequel!" and over here another takes his 7 year old boy and he loves it too... so CHILDREN love this movie ...great, just great. Welcome all the Rainforest people. Can we have some fun next time and have MACHETE VS THE GHOSTRIDER or something
Well there's a shock by ElsieZiiippp	Feb 18th, 2007 08:01:39 AM
It's a dire load of old tripe. I think the only possible entertainment value in it for me would be Mr Cage's hairpiece flapping around whilst he's riding a vespa.
A movie so bad it gets three talkbacks? by Napoleon Park	Feb 18th, 2007 08:31:25 AM
I judge comicbbookmovies by how faithful they are to the comic they're based on or inspired by. Unfortunately, by that standard Supergirl, a stupid movie based on a stupid comic book, scores high. And the original TMNT was a masterpiece. *** I was a '60s teenage Marvelite and a Marvel fan in the '70s and Ghost Rider was never a great character. Now, if they made a Killraven, Shang Chi, Adam Warlock, Deathlok movie - maybe even Omega or a Roger Rabbit meets CGI Howard the Duck, I'd be interested. Even that pitiful Man-Thing movie was faithful, considering the series was a horror anthology and the lead character was a retarded mute who responded to emotions and set scared people on fire. Even though the Mike Ploog drawn stories were stylish and the Isabella story where GR was redeemed by the unidentified Jesus roman a clef was inspiring, in general most of the Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider could be summed up by that notorious two page Don Perlin spread of the Rider weaving through freeway traffic. Even in a 25cent comic, a two page spread of a freeway was a rip off. But if people really want to gripe, consider this: the villain here is the devil's son. Marvel had a comic called Son of Satan. Who wasn't a My Chemical Romance member in the Trenchcoat Mafia. No, I haven't seen Ghost Rider, and won't until it airs on TBS next year, but by the 'how faithful is it to the comics rule', if they screwed up Daimon Hellstrom that bad, how good can it be?
what a ignorant prick ! by corw71	Feb 18th, 2007 12:56:42 PM
If u were going to slam this movie as a whole, why bother to point out "good parts" just to make yourself seem impartial. Seems that u had a opinion on how this movie was going 2 be already. Just admit it - U liked jumping on the "I hate comicbook movie band wagon"! As a long time Johnny Blaze-GHOSTRIDER comicbook fan, I found the movie much better than expected in fact Ithought it was great! My wife - who is not a comic fan, also enjoyed it. So make this a 2 thumbs up review of this movie!
44 Million Dollar Weekend by 2Utah2	Feb 18th, 2007 06:00:47 PM
If this movie makes more than 300 or Zodiac at the end of its release something is seriously wrong. Honestly I can't believe it opened this big. Is Ghost Rider that popular of a comic book character or has Nic Cage become the go-to action draw?
th' comics by Rob SoLF	Feb 18th, 2007 07:58:45 PM
Mebbe some spoilers... read at yer own risk... in agreement with AgentSith, Johnnycool, and superninja on a few things. Listen, I read ALL seventy-some issues of the comic a few months ago in anticipation of this flick, and lemme tell ya, this flick is FAR less cheezy than the comics. Don't get me wrong, the comics for their time, were good. I can't believe they got a "good guy sold his soul to the devil" past the comics code, AT ALL, let alone did what they did. But this flick, by the (comic)books, would've been a fluffy haired Luke Skywalker lookin' pretty boy Johnny Blaze against the "Trapster", and the "Water Wizard". What a lark! While a lot about this movie could have been done better, especially in the audio department, it brought the right GR to the screen. The one we wanted to be at 8 years old scared of the "monster" in our closet. That Hulk-type alter-ego that made us scarier than the monster, itself. Yep, the origin was almost as bad as Daredevils(movie), the ending was flat out STUPID, but GR(the being) is everything I'd imagined him to be as a kid. As stupid as the bit in the "swamp" was, those were the things going on in my head when that "monster" was hiding in my closet. I wanted to change into that being that would scare the "monsters" as much as they scared me. "oh, no, I'm drowning, whatever shall I do... mwa ha ha ha ha!!!" It was really surprising that the rest of the flick couldn't have been better. Why does he suffer the wound of a knife, but the PD riddles him with holes, and it doesn't do anything? Actually, this happens in the comic too, without much explanation. Some dumb stuff, some unimaginative fight scenes, but when GR is cruising around, it's the GR we always wished the COMICS could be. Flipping off cops, laughing at authority. Being the REAL sheriff in town. Let's hope GR2(if it gets made) better lives up in the parts that this flick fails so miserably.
Hey bacci40 by The_Closet_Nerd	Feb 19th, 2007 07:40:44 AM
I did bring my son, he did think it was cool, and he did think the villains were creepy. But there isn't much I even find terrifying at the movies anymore. Also, I'm guessing you would plunk down 13 bucks to see kid's some movies that he thought were cool, such as any of the Spiderman films, or the first three Star Wars, The Iron Giant or the original Planet of the Apes. I think Ghost Rider was a good movie, and a majority of the people are going to agree.
Ghost Rider was actually pretty good by Mr Incredible	Feb 19th, 2007 09:21:35 AM
I don't know what the hell you guys are asking for but the movie wasn't that bad. Not everything was cool in it (Eva Mendes, take acting lessons, please), but it worked for a first film. I've seen shit worse than Ghost Rider, and regretted laying out money for seeing them. some of you seem to keep asking for this unattainable perfection in a comic-book film, and trust me, it ain't gonna happen.
Well that was weird by Falcon5768	Feb 19th, 2007 10:57:44 AM
I actually kinda liked this one, sure it wasnt as black as I was hoping it to be, but Cage nailed Blaze pretty good (as opposed to doing his usual Elvis shit) They could have dropped the chick, she was boring as fuck, just have dropped the love line all together and it would have been a good movie.
2Utah2 by Rob SoLF	Feb 19th, 2007 12:58:05 PM
It wasn't Nick, at least not specifically. It's by far his biggest opening ever. The GR concept appeals to a lot of people, even if they never picked up the book. I mean, there aren't many concepts that carry the cool factor like a vengeance demon riding a flaming motorcycle. Put the rider on the poster, along with Mendez's magnificent mammarage, and you don't need Nick there.
Don't watch February release comic superhero movies. by GibsonUSA Returns	Feb 19th, 2007 01:11:03 PM
Period.
Just saw it by DarthMusashi2112	Feb 19th, 2007 06:52:35 PM
Fun movie, had a good time. And Eva Mendes' boobies are the BOMB yo.
Lets not forget by Falcon5768	Feb 19th, 2007 06:54:00 PM
As a Comic, its not tied down with decades of backstory and retellings. There are only 3 Ghost Riders, and even there they where never clear exactly how the backstory was. Nor was it Marvels biggest draws, like Fantastic 4 Daredevil and XMen where.
Yes, G.R. was painfully horrible, unwatchable, etc... by Akuma No Uta	Feb 19th, 2007 07:56:01 PM
but I thought the funniest thing about it was that Ghost Rider's voice sounded like the corpse grandfather from Creepshow. "Its my birthday!" "Gaze into my eyes!" ugh.
Ghost Rider, Ghost Rider, why dost thou suck? by thebearovingian	Jul 1st, 2008 04:25:40 PM
Terrible, terrible movie. It just plain sucked.

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