I'm a little disappointed there's no Galactus - not because I care about the character (I don't), but because he'd be a giant, purple-helmeted cherry of stupid-ness on top of an already pretty fucking ridiculous cake. At least we have the nude surfer who is also silver.

Come on, Fantastic Four Too!

Had it been up to me, I'd have cut out Doom's return ENTIRELY...he sucked in FF1 so why bring him back at all, just boot him and get the bad taste out of everyone's mouth already...and just focused instead on making a kick-ass, balls-out action movie -- a true "Earth threatened globally" movie where only SUPERHEROES can save the day -- where the FF have to repel the Surfer and Galactus. For crying out loud, how hard was that to figure out in an early story production meeting?

That said, at the very least, here's a tip for the Fox Honchos or their support staff who'll probably be made to skim this talkback to report back to their bosses given that Reed Richards himself has now sort of spilled some major story beans that he probably WASN'T supposed to reveal just yet. So, Fox, here's a tip to avoid TOTAL HATE from the fans on your already dubious sequel. AT THE VERY LEAST when the movie ends...you know, after the credits roll...there should be a tag on ending that sends us into space at which point we close in on a giant ship, go inside, and then see Galactus actually standing there, looking over some controls and setting a course for Earth. The movie then ends as he turns and looks into the camera, giving everyone a bad ass "Yes, I'm coming to kill you" look as we actually get to see that great Jack Kirby designed head looking mean and destructive.

Seriously, if the movie doesn't at least toss us at least THAT tiny bit, the writing's on the wall regarding what a shitty franchise this has completely turned into, with no hope of redemption. At which point we'll have to wait 20-odd years before someone will finally get behind launching an all-new FF film, a total reboot, at which point they'll hopefully get it RIGHT that time!

Jessica is a dark angel so of course she gives hummers everyday, two for one special on Tuesdays and seniors get three on Wednesdays.

Given the plot dynamic, have any of you considered that not actually seeing Galactus may have much more of a dramatic impact? For example, the scariest parts of Jaws was when we didn't see the fish. Besides, Kirby's genius aside, a giant in a purple samurai outfit wouldn't be widely accessible. It just wouldn't work on film without appearing kitschy. Ever wonder why Galactus wears a mask? Who's he hiding his identity from and why?

The complete absense of a Galactus origin is the *exact opposite take* employed for Dr. Doom in the first flick -- yet still the lot of you quibble. Which way do you want it?

Some of you continue to complain about the Surfer, like the addition of pupils. Not only are they useful tools for emoting, but have any of you stopped to consider that they are square shaped just like Galactus's in the comics? If you're going to make changes, that's the way to do it.

I hope this does better than the first movie. Would really like to see the U-Foes and Inhumans in a sequel, but they'll prolly go with Sub-Mariner.

Galactus could always be a guy in a rubber suit....

Lucas is gonna sue the pants offa' these monkeys.

Funny, I thought it had to do with stuff like land, empire, and controlling trade routes.

;)

I agree Galactus should be kept in the shadows as an unknown entity or force. While this film is finite, the hints are dropped that Galactus could/might/maybe/possibly in some way manifest in another film.

the english language is dying.

He will instead be replaced with a Robo-sapien. Oh yeah, this movie will rock.

by which I mean sink fast like a rock dropped into a pool of water.

Dr. Strange was pretty tight in the blue puffy shirt and medallion (if a bit "swinging jet set"), but those black Stratford-on-Avon leggings/tights and the crimson cape pretty much shoot him into a Queer Eye episode.

I love Kirby. I love the FF. And I love the original Galactus arc. But a giant in a purple samurai outfit would look absolutely rediculous on film. Even if Story got it right, non-comic fans wouldn't be able to get past the Godzilla jokes.

You think I want to be right on this?

You cite Raimi's Spider-Man as this quintessential comic movie. Yet, you must be aware that those films have their share of comic fanboy detractors. The two common gripes I read about most are how it's an emo-melodrama coupled with Pete's inability to crack wise. Now, 1 and 2 are among my favorite comic movies, but even then, I realize that they are two films of Peter not wanting to be Spider-Man. I suspect this trend to continue given the black spidey angst coming in 3.

You cite the appearance of movie Thing as contempt on behalf of the filmmakers. Do you realize that many comic fanboys defended the design as being faithful to Kirby's original "lumpy" burn victim look? Sure, I'd like to see the unibrow, but it didn't happen and I was pleasantly surprised with the facial work they pulled off on the mask.

I agree with you that this is market-driven. What isn't? Especially superhero films, where the profits can actually save a film's bottom line as it did with Hulk. I don't think the marketing angle can be avoided with the blockbuster era of the 70's behind us. True art can only be found in independant film.

Despite the above, I still believe that the FF is the most spot-on adaptation of comic source material this side of Ghost World. They got Doom rawng, but they got the Four right. Johnny, most of all.