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SWEEPS DAY FIVE!!
Hercules Chats Up
HEROES Mastermind Tim Kring!!

Doctor Who, Sulu, The Master.... by Kenny8	Feb 5th, 2007 02:13:46 AM
..whoever's casting this show HAS to be a member here!
So Eric Roberts is Linderman by LittleDudes	Feb 5th, 2007 02:50:55 AM
Awesome. As much as I love this show what I think it needs is more skin.
sleeper waking, meals taking by teammember8	Feb 5th, 2007 03:25:12 AM
In which episode do they introduce Kid Dinosaur, Modular Man, and Fortunato? Fawking rip-off show.
Steven Seagal should end up being Linderman by Darth_Gonz	Feb 5th, 2007 04:24:28 AM
And there needs to be a subplot detailing how many necks he has snapped of those who have had the guts to cross him.
Fuck Off! by darquelyte	Feb 5th, 2007 05:42:12 AM
How did this happen?
I wonder if Eden is really dead? by Otter	Feb 5th, 2007 05:46:09 AM
When you saw the gun blast, all you saw was the spray of blood on the window: nothing more. The next episode, Sylar is wounded on the floor, and no trace of Eden, with the exception of the explanation that she's "buried" somewhere. Something's fishy.
WooHoo! by Yeti	Feb 5th, 2007 06:26:38 AM
This show just gets better & better. Hopefully Kring & Co. can keep this up. (If the PTB get Lucy Lawless & Gina Torres to guest star even once then I agree they do visit Talkbacks)
Eden by Leopold Scotch	Feb 5th, 2007 06:44:46 AM
Remember that the next time we see Sylar in his cell, it's "two weeks later", plus someone told Mohinder that Eden's body was found up north somewhere that I can't remember.
"Nathan likes to sleep around" Cut him some slack! by Horseflesh	Feb 5th, 2007 07:23:35 AM
He did that after his wife wasn't capable of fucking him anymore. Think about it... your only source of sex is gone and that hot blonde wants a one-nighter? It's kinda unfair to blanket statement the guy with "likes to sleep around" when all he's done is tried to get laid when he CAN'T get any at home. Unless I missed something and they've revealed he's made a habit of this.
Herbert! Herbert! Herbert! by The Selecter	Feb 5th, 2007 07:26:41 AM
I'm pretty sure Eden is dead. Which is a shame.
Horseflesh: what are you talking about? by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 07:52:27 AM
We've been given no indication that Graem's wife is incapable of sex.
Milhouse Van Houten as Fall-Out Boy?? by The Cabin Boy	Feb 5th, 2007 08:17:55 AM
Please address this important casting question in your interview, Herc.
MY EYES!!!!!!!! ... by jimmy rabbitte	Feb 5th, 2007 08:55:46 AM
THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!
captboulder by Leopold Scotch	Feb 5th, 2007 10:02:04 AM
It's a pity he has never cried.
"Why no terrorist" = easily answered by Itchy	Feb 5th, 2007 10:02:15 AM
Because it is politically incorrect to have a "mid-east terrorist". You wouldn't want to raise the ire of all of Heroes' many muslim fans by indulging in that vicious stereotype. Just because 99% of all terrorist attacks are carried about men between the ages of 18-40 and of middle-eastern decent is no reason to perpetuate the stereotypes ... so it makes sense to switch the "bad guy" to a non-descript white dude from the America Southwest.
Cookylamoo: Interviewers don't want to be blacklisted by SpyGuy	Feb 5th, 2007 10:04:06 AM
Unfortunately, the big problem with interviewers these days is that if they ask really hardball questions that actively challenge the bullshit being spewed by their subjects, they run the risk of ending up on that person's blacklist and the blacklists of whatever friends/associates that person has. Interviewers want to keep their access to stars and bigwigs and the PR people know this, which is why they usually tell the interviewers "You can't ask this, but be sure to ask about this..." and so on.
What I didn't get about Eden's death scene... by amherst90jl	Feb 5th, 2007 10:12:42 AM
when Eden first pointed the gun at Sylar, he says "you know that won't hurt me". Why the hell not? He didn't absorb Claire's power, and even if he did, she's not invulnerable; she heals quickly from almost any injury, although head injuries are still debatable. Anyway, I'm thinking a bullet to the brain would have hurt Sylar right good.
Jim Belushi has been cast as Claire's dad. by Uncle Stan	Feb 5th, 2007 11:01:31 AM
or was it Alton Brown?
amherst, by Novaman5000	Feb 5th, 2007 11:33:40 AM
Sylar knew he was too valuable to the HRG group for eden to kill. That's what he meant.
"after blood is spilled" by Novaman5000	Feb 5th, 2007 11:42:12 AM
I'm calling it now - Ando is dying.
amherst90jl by all your base	Feb 5th, 2007 11:46:54 AM
sylar could just stop the bullet with his telekinesis. if she had caught him by surprise, that may have been another story.
Head injuries? by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 11:52:16 AM
I'm pretty sure that about 8 inches of that stick (insert penis joke here) were lodged in her brain. Maybe if you physically remove the head... But decapitation is pretty tricky using a 9mm. Besides all that, I mean... She was dead. Stone cold DEAD. Remove stick from brain and presto chango, everything is hunky dorey. I think she's basically fuckin' indestructible. Oh, and thanks to everyone who puts spoilers in thier TITLE. Real classy. Top notch. PS: Parkman is the daddy, I got a super weirdo vibe from the dissolve between Claire's windchime and Parkman's windchime. But maybe that's just to fuck with my head. Bring it on, Tim.
Swords by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 12:19:10 PM
make everything 10,000x more badass. And I'm not even being sarcastic. Hiro + Sword = Anime fanboy's wet dream.
We're fucked. by PwnedByStallone	Feb 5th, 2007 12:27:29 PM
"However, it seems to me that saving the world has overshadowed any petty issues with their jobs." Umm...is this the childish logic this show will be using throughout? Because I fucking doubt Yamagoto Industries would give two fucks if in their minds, Hiro and Ando are trying to save the world in their minds. And this guy hasn't thought of ando as a sidekick? Does he know a fucking thing about superheroes? If he's trusting his writers we may all be getting screwed here very soon.
Oh yeah by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 12:28:15 PM
And as for Sylar's "Even you know that wouldn't hurt me" to Eden, if you remember in episode 3, Parkman shot Sylar about 5 times in the chest. Yea, he fell down. And then he got right back up, all the bullets fell to the ground, and he jumped 3 stories straight up. What did he need Claire for again?
Re: Lazarus by 24hourbbq	Feb 5th, 2007 01:07:54 PM
Well don't forget that when Sylar and Peter fell in the homecoming episode, Peter had a big pool of blood under him, but there was nothing under Sylar. He was limping though. Maybe he has collected a specific power that can keep him safe from bullets, but can still be physically harmed in other ways. The ability to regenerate the way Claire can could possibly, combined with whatever protective abilities he already has, make him completely invulnerable. Claire's power doesn't make her invulnerable -- she still takes damage and doesn't seem to heal unless the missing pieces are brought back together (i.e. setting bones, folding her split chest back together, the stick being removed from her brain). I suspect she would not regenerate if she were vaporized or chopped into multiple pieces. This is why I think she would be just as vulnerable as everybody else when the big explosion happens.
24hourbbq: I agree by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 01:26:36 PM
Sorry, that post was sort of a half assed continuation of an earlier post about Claire being nearly indestructible. Personally I think Sylar can use his mental powers as a kind of shield, but only to the effect of dampening impact. Hence the limp, falling down after getting shot. However, the bullets don't actually pierce the shield, so he seems to be (relatively) immune to gunfire. Blades might work cough-SWORD-cough, have we seen him be cut by anything? And I'm pretty sure if he OR Claire were in a nuclear explosion it'd be ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Waiting to see if she can reattach lost limbs tho. If only her skeleton were coated with some sort of indestructible metal alloy. Anybody thought of that? ;)
Sylar needs claire for one reason: by Novaman5000	Feb 5th, 2007 01:42:34 PM
His mind is breaking down. All his DNA changing is ruining his brain, HRG and co say as much. He wanted claire's power so that he could heal his brain. And claire would definitely be killed in a nuclear explosion- or by decapitation. She's only indestructable up to a point, believe.
Ask him who Meat Loaf was going to play by BitterMan23	Feb 5th, 2007 02:37:00 PM
please.
Mocky by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 03:13:55 PM
Stop watching or stop whining. Better yet, just go away. ^_^ Ja ne!
I don't understand why anyone thinks the show is slow by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 03:36:01 PM
If it was Lost, Ando and Hiro wouldn't have gotten on the plane yet. They wrapped up Peter's coma in 20 minutes, compared to the weeks another show would've done. Sylar was captured (and the cheerleader saved) in episode 9, which is hell of a lot faster than I expected. And heck, Peter only found out he was the one exploding 2 hours and 2 minutes ago (in show time). Seriously, I have no clue what some people are thinking here.
The following post will answer Horseflesh's 3:47:27PM by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 03:37:11 PM
24, dude! You gotta keep current on cross-talkback shows. And come on, a wife who can't move her legs? Nathan is probably loving that shit.
chrth, Who the hell is Graem? by Horseflesh	Feb 5th, 2007 03:47:27 PM
I'm talking about Nathan Patrelli, the guy who can fly who's wife became paralyzed. I'm guessing she's not the greatest lay in the world at this point.
o_O;; by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 03:57:42 PM
I think I told you to play hide and go fuck yourself. You misunderstood that... how? ¿Hablo espanol? ¿Como se dice 'troll' en tu lengua? (Ya, my Spanish is rusty. Like your mom. Zing!)
Eric Roberts... by AngelCordy	Feb 5th, 2007 04:51:15 PM
I don't believe he's playing Linderman. I'm pretty sure that role has been cast with Malcolm McDowell.
I'm pretty sure that Eric Roberts isn't The Linchpin by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 05:05:02 PM
Meat Loaf would be a great choice, he could be quite menacing. Malcolm McDowell, of course, excels at every fucking thing he does, so he'd be fine too.
O_O; by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 05:08:18 PM
Someone call 911, I think he's had a stroke.
Jeez by Leopold Scotch	Feb 5th, 2007 05:34:30 PM
Who asks that question about Hiro and Ando not going back to work? If you could stop time and teleport, would you still work in an office? We already saw how much money they could potentially make using Hiro's power so let's not waste precious time answering such bullshit.
Hey Mocky by kurdt420	Feb 5th, 2007 05:45:08 PM
It all goes back to the great Gilligans Island question. "why all the luggage for a three hour tour?" the answer..."who cares". Its entertainment, if you are no longer entertained then move on. But don't hurt yourself trying to answer the unanswerable. Just move on.
Ando has to die.... by Russman	Feb 5th, 2007 06:06:02 PM
It's the next thing that forces Hiro to snap out of his kiddie comic world and into the real world. Right now this is adventure and fun and even though WikipediaGirl was killed it's still kind of "fun" for the character. So my guess (as well as a lot of others) is that Ando will die and that'll deeply hurt him, causing him to A. Get pissed and take revenge, B. Get very sad really learn to hone his gift, C. Go Ape Shit and really mess some mo-fos up , or D. A bit of everything or E. None of the above. F. Stop typing now.
so mocky, are you saying.. you don't like Heroes? by Amy Chasing	Feb 5th, 2007 06:08:05 PM
'cause it sounds like you watch it. You sure seem to know alot about its plot and acting and story and characters. Do you just like watching stuff when you know you don't actually like the show? Or do you just want to seem credible when you come in here to tell us about it? As I've previously posted: As Heroes is a TV show based on superhero comic books (to the point that they even have a comic book online, a comic book writer as a character, and the parallels to the X-Men are plentiful) I find it a little surprising that people make such negative comments as listed above. Comic books are pulp fiction. The plot isn't overly complicated, the characters are 2-dimensional (no pun intended), and it's a fun ride (with the occasional moments of brilliance). Heroes is achieving this, so it's not pretentious, it's like an homage to superhero comics. An adaptation of a non-existent comic book series to a television series - which means things will be drawn out (especially if they know they're getting another season). All successful tv series writers do this, from Whedon to JMS. And very rarely will something in the story happen that hasn't been done in another story/show before. This series isn't revolutionary, it isn't striving for greatness. It's just cool - and that's all it needs.
SPOILER ALERT Cheerleader's father is... by purplemonkeydw	Feb 5th, 2007 06:15:04 PM
Vader, Darth Vader, you heard it here first.
Isn't it obvious who Claire's daddy is? by Pennsy	Feb 5th, 2007 06:15:53 PM
The Jack Sack. ;)
Amy, don't bother by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 06:35:13 PM
I'm pretty sure that last stroke turned him into a vegetable. You might as well be writing to a brick wall. Oh, and I couldn't have said it better myself. =)
Every superhero-themed idea is a ripoff of by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 06:59:26 PM
classical mythology, mmmkay? Heck, even Deal or No Deal has its origins in the rites of Dionysus (ok, I'm kidding on that last one ... it was the rites of Hecate)
Exactly chrth by kurdt420	Feb 5th, 2007 07:16:03 PM
There aint nuthin new under the sun. Everything that you believe is original and fresh has most likely been done over and over again at some point in time. Which means everything is a rip-off of something. so quit belly aching over shows not being "original"
What's with the dresses on Deal or No Deal by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 07:34:22 PM
They look like those bedtime outfits from Beauty School Dropout
All I have to say is this; by vivavitalogy	Feb 5th, 2007 07:40:17 PM
Dammit John you know how much I love my Big Beef and Cheddar.
Must...refrain ...from...telling...the...talk.. . by vivavitalogy	Feb 5th, 2007 07:48:03 PM
backers...who...Claires...real ...father...is...
Hiro... by Lain Of The Net	Feb 5th, 2007 08:01:27 PM
This is your destiny. I am your Father. Oh my I am loving this.
Answer the question Claire..... by kurdt420	Feb 5th, 2007 08:05:36 PM
"No I never did IT OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
This is How... by Lain Of The Net	Feb 5th, 2007 08:07:43 PM
...you paint our relationship? Talk about self absorbed. Who wouldn't want a woman like that.
Sylar... by Lain Of The Net	Feb 5th, 2007 08:20:24 PM
...reminds me of ....CABLE GUY. Kinda dark even when he is trying to be nice.
I really wasn't that huge on this show at first... by DanielKurland	Feb 5th, 2007 08:25:08 PM
Didn't think it was very well written, the connections between people were clumsy, and I just failed to see a lot of the hype, however, the past few episodes have been quite good in my opinion, and the stuff with Sylar in this episode, and Claire's dad bashing in with the gun were great. The whole thing with Christopher Eccleston's character acting as a mentor has been well done as well I think. I'm still not hugely looking forward to it each week, but I definitely enjoy it a lot now when I watch it, as opposed to how it seemed kind of like a chore when it began.I'm glad to see the improvement.
Haitian Guy to the rescue, mudderfracker! by Pennsy	Feb 5th, 2007 08:34:53 PM

"I'm the Executive Vice President. I can do anything!" by Pennsy	Feb 5th, 2007 08:41:48 PM
Go, Hiro, go...
wow by majortom25	Feb 5th, 2007 08:45:56 PM
how does fire + flying = regeneration?
NCC-1701... by Billyeveryteen	Feb 5th, 2007 08:47:56 PM
Hilarious.
The lineage of ripoffery by XAOS	Feb 5th, 2007 08:48:09 PM
Wild Cards begat New Universe begat Rising Stars begat Heroes. Hope that clarifies.
Here's daddy! I tend to stutter but here it goes; by vivavitalogy	Feb 5th, 2007 08:49:10 PM
p,p,pp,ppppp,pppp,p,pp,ppp,pp, pp,p,p,p,p,ppppppppppppppppppp p,p,pppppppp.pe,pp,pp,pppppa,p p,pp,pp,ppppppp
majortom25 by XAOS	Feb 5th, 2007 08:49:22 PM
How does suicidal depression + kleptomania = flying?
KNEW IT! by Pennsy	Feb 5th, 2007 08:54:30 PM
Nathan.
kind of telegraphed that one with last week's preview by purplemonkeydw	Feb 5th, 2007 08:55:58 PM
anakin, you sassy fucker!
Damn. by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 08:56:31 PM
Save your neice, save the world? I was really hoping they wouldn't go with the "politician has a love child" route, but... The cat's out of the bag now.
Oh and no one noticed by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 08:57:38 PM
NCC-1701 on daddy's license plate? Great nod.
"Enterprise" Rental car? by Mahooch	Feb 5th, 2007 08:58:13 PM
Anyone notice Hiro's dad's license plate: NCC1701! (How tuly dork is THAT!?!?) Thanks to my fiance who pointed that out.
Roar by AngelCordy	Feb 5th, 2007 08:58:40 PM
I wanted it to be Matt Parkman. Hopefully, all the people who wanted Peter/Claire can finally shut up.
Yea.. by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 09:05:41 PM
I wanted Parkman too. Also, fire + flying = regeneration is about the same as super-strong-schitzo + walk-thru-walls = technokinesis.
Congrats... by Lain Of The Net	Feb 5th, 2007 09:08:03 PM
...to those who called Claire's father. NCC 1701. Good eye there. I bet that sort of thing follows George whether he wants it to or not.
Relax, Peter! Claude knows all about regenerating... by SpyGuy	Feb 5th, 2007 09:56:13 PM
...It's a bit dodgy, this process. You never know what'll happen.
Please NEVER use "Big Bad" in relation to HEROES again! by ZeroCorpse	Feb 5th, 2007 10:07:10 PM
Keep your lame-ass Buffyisms out of Heroes discussion! Heroes is head and shoulders above that rehashed Whedon crap.
I love the 'don't know if you remember me' by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 10:16:39 PM
Wow, Nathan is a scumbag, isn't he? Of course we knew that when we found out he was running for Congress.
Does anyone think "Krang" when you see "Kring" by seanny_d	Feb 5th, 2007 10:22:06 PM
I can't get the image of that pink brain in the stomach of a man robot out of my mind anytime I see that guy's name.
Sorry, ZeroCorpse by chrth	Feb 5th, 2007 10:22:34 PM
Big Bad is a regular feature of Coax now, Whedon-origin or not. You can't escape it.
Smallville Staff... by seanny_d	Feb 5th, 2007 10:31:00 PM
Wow. Heroes really seems to be taking so much of the Smallville staff and using them much more effectively on Heroes. Greg Beeman, Terrance O'Hara, Jennot Szwarc, Jeph Loeb. Is anyone left on Smallville anymore? Also, there's something awesome about a parent and child realizing they both have superpowers.
Another solid episode of Heroes by ATARI	Feb 5th, 2007 10:32:53 PM
I haven't dug a show this much since the first season of LOST (yep, I have a short memory).
KRANG! by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 11:31:33 PM
Totally. Every fucking time and it haunts me.
FUCK! by David Lazarus Long	Feb 5th, 2007 11:41:41 PM
I just remembered what I wanted to mention. Sylar used the voice. The Muad'dib, Jesse Custer, voice of mother fucking god tell-anyone-to-do-anything-and -they-will fucking VOICE. How does he have the voice if Eden killed herself? Or is she alive? Or was she still alive but then Sylar sliced open her brain with his brain and suck all the brains out and now she's dead? But why was her body up in bumblefuck North Eastern coast of Canada or wherever the fuck..? Greenland? Did Sylar send her there? Or did HRG find her dead but it was after he took the powers and he didn't realize it? OR! By shooting herself in the head, she opened up her brain to him ANYWAY, and in dying gave him the very gift that he sought?! .............................. I don't. know. But yea. ahem That was.. pretty coo'...heh. ^_^;;
ERIC ROBERTS GOTTA EAT!!! by djkrysiz	Feb 5th, 2007 11:43:13 PM

It's "The Voice of Zool" by RyanMurray	Feb 5th, 2007 11:47:39 PM
nods
Ha! I called Nathan... by AnnoyYou	Feb 6th, 2007 12:05:30 AM
...being Claire's dad. He's such a man-whore I knew it had to be him.
A Few Thoughts by baseballfury	Feb 6th, 2007 12:13:16 AM
Sylar Didn't use the Voice. It was just an artistic choice to show that Claires mom was all f-upped from getting bounced off the wall. And HRG is the fucking man as of tonight. And lastly, has anyone noticed that they seem to be ramping up the effects since the show became so huge? I hope it leads up to a big, fuck-off shiny action piece for the last episode of the season.
ZeroCorpse, you idiot by underscore_only	Feb 6th, 2007 12:18:17 AM
Of all the phrases to cull from Buffy, Big Bad is effective and useful and a heckuva lot easier to say than "story arc villian". Also, much love to Buffy and Heroes, but calling one a rehash and not the other? Right.
But Please by baseballfury	Feb 6th, 2007 12:27:37 AM
If there is a huge action scene in the last episode or two, don't have anyone fight. Not with that cheesy, Buffy style couldn't-afford-a-good-stunt-t eam bullshit. Just have Sylar,Nikki, and maybe Pete go sickhouse on people without any crappy fake-fu. P.S. No knock on Buffy. But with TV money and time constraints, its hard to do cool fight scenes that last longer then a few seconds. Angel got pretty good at it in its last season or two, tho.
license plate shoulda been.. by srh1son	Feb 6th, 2007 12:46:53 AM
NCC-2000. Excelsior, biatches!
Big Damn Heroes! by chromedome	Feb 6th, 2007 01:16:01 AM
Ain't We Just. Bring On the Big Bad Whedonisms! Let's list as many as we can for ZeroCorpsified...
Hiro's sister is HOT! by ravenclaw	Feb 6th, 2007 02:10:35 AM
Can't believe no one has yet commented on the hotness of Hiro's sister. No wonder Ando wanted to go back to Japan. Doesn't she know Ando has the power of !Awesome!
ALSO by ravenclaw	Feb 6th, 2007 02:12:32 AM
Malcom McDowell IS playing Linderman. How Frackin Awesome is THAT! Give that guy a baseball bat and let's see who's got the bigger power BITCH!
Takei by The Selecter	Feb 6th, 2007 03:46:46 AM
I know it's just sweeps stunt casting, but I wish they would have given him more to do than just stand around a parking garage menacing his son and daughter. Next week looks interesting...Sylar and Indian Exposition Guy teaming up?
Nathan = New Age Landosystem by LittleDudes	Feb 6th, 2007 04:29:48 AM
Fucken peeeeyump! So mommy burnt down the house by accident, or to try and kill lil hotness?
What the fuck!! by Zarles	Feb 6th, 2007 08:38:32 AM
Is MetalWater talking about? Go to bed, junior.
Rising Stars by Mr. Profit	Feb 6th, 2007 08:45:07 AM
There was an EW interview about Heroes a few months back and Kring said he did not read Rising Stars and when he was alerted to it existing, he read it and got a bit worried. Anyhow, the creator of Rising Stars is not at all pissed, and I forget what network wants to turn Rising Stars into a TV show.
And I'm glad Peter is Claire's uncle.... by Mr. Profit	Feb 6th, 2007 08:46:01 AM
It deads the whole "Peter and Claire should hook up!" bullshit you read on some sites.
Yeah Hiro's siter is hot...but too old for Harry by DigitalDong	Feb 6th, 2007 08:50:11 AM
16 is the new 18, where 30 is the new 20, 50 is the new 30 and if you're 40 or going on it and are fantasizing about an 18 playing a 16 you probably got issues and tissues.
so, why cant pete and claire hook up? by all your base	Feb 6th, 2007 09:38:14 AM
they could claim they didnt know... oops
Peter and Claire should make babies! by Zarles	Feb 6th, 2007 10:01:49 AM
Mutant inbred superpowered babies. Awww.
Peter vs. Sylar by 24hourbbq	Feb 6th, 2007 10:39:23 AM
In light of the end of Peter's part of last night's episode, I'm really curious as to the difference between Peter's and Sylar's powers - they are starting to sound more and more similar in net effect. They both acquire powers from other people. They access their power in different ways, but is it possible that if Sylar didn't see these powers as being part of the watchworks of the brain - something that had to be handled physically - that he would be able to absorb powers the way that Peter does? I guess it depends on if Sylar can use his powers in any other way. If his powers are technically 'being able to see how things are broken and how they can be fixed', can he use them to heal himself? Others? Larger pieces of machinary? I dunno... my brain is sort of going in circles on this one. Somebody was saying that there are a limited number of people on 'the list', and Eccleston was saying that there were others with the same types of powers, so I'm more inclined to allow for the possibility of a power repeat among the characters we've met. What do y'all think?
also... by Kirbymanly	Feb 6th, 2007 02:00:54 PM
Wouldn't more people be bumping into Peter and Dr. Who guy when they're walking down the street?
The JACK SACK!! by Jack_Bauer	Feb 6th, 2007 02:01:30 PM
Finally it has been located. Claire has it!!
"She's the poor mans Audrey Tautou." by Jack_Bauer	Feb 6th, 2007 02:07:54 PM
I always thought of her as a poor man's robin tunney myself.
Invisibles Reflection!!! by Aznbuddy	Feb 6th, 2007 02:09:45 PM
Did anyone notice that when WE could see Peter and Dr. Who, they cast reflections on the store window? Should they have NOT cast reflections on the window since seeing them while they are invisible is just a plot device for the viewers? Anybody?
Heroes Comments.... by Kirbymanly	Feb 6th, 2007 02:10:52 PM
1) NBC plugged the "daddy reveal" to death. It wasn't surprising AT ALL. Had Myka's power been to change from child to man and somehow screwed Claire's mom years ago... THAT would have been surprising. 2) CAST BRUCE CAMPBELL! 3) Get Claire back in her outfit. Its been too long. 4) Thank Zod they got rid of Eden. Pointless character. She's the poor mans Audrey Tautou. 5) More Sulu! He was GREAT.
Anyone notice they're not just invisible ... by chrth	Feb 6th, 2007 02:34:04 PM
They're inaudible as well?
I think by baseballfury	Feb 6th, 2007 02:44:59 PM
Claudes powers work mentally, not physically like the Invisable Woman. Therefore, only people (and maybe animals) don't see him. So, he could get picked up on camera and other things like that, and that's why he and Pete could be seen in the reflection. Or, maybe it was a fuck-up. Never know. But it would explain why people don't hear him.
baseballfury: so you're saying he has a ... by chrth	Feb 6th, 2007 03:14:26 PM
Somebody Else's Problem Field? AWESOME. I still love the episode of X-Files with one of those.
Peter and Claire babies = Hills Have Eyes by RKDN Del Sol	Feb 6th, 2007 08:18:27 PM
you know its true.
Eden = Audrey Tautou? Robin Tunney? Nay. by Burgundy82	Feb 6th, 2007 10:34:09 PM
Slight resemblances, these, but Eden is a carbon copy of Rachel Bilson.
PRICELESS fan awkwardness post Peter+Claire revelation by Burgundy82	Feb 6th, 2007 10:50:49 PM
My. God. I just did a Google search of both their names and, and there are these... fan sites (created before last night's episode, I hope). They're almost too disturbing for words: Soft-focus pictures of the two together, alongside lyrics from "Lips of an Angel" (which is nauseating as it is), and this... (dry heave)... romantic fan-fiction about their "relationship"... Yikes. And I'm sure there are fan-made music videos all over YouTube set to like, Lifehouse or something. Bet they all feel a little stupid now. Luke and Leia all over again, I tell ya...
Heroes by Barron34	Feb 6th, 2007 11:38:19 PM
Have to disagree about Eden. I thought she was a good character. I liked that she used her powers for gain until she was recruited by Mr.Bennett who started to use her powers more constructively. I loved the scene when she put the serial killer scary Sylar to sleep with just a sentence. And I loved the fact that she made her own choice to disobey the morally dubious Mr. Bennett/HRG, and (naively) went in to kill Sylar. To cap it off, she had the guts to kill herself rather than allowing Sylar to kill her and steal her powers. She died a hero. Good writing, and a good character, also with a cool power.***I like that the show has the guts to kill characters and do the unexpected. I am concerned that they might kill off Parkman, since the writers seem so far to not quite know what to do with them. That would be a shame, because I think the actor is good, and the character is sympathetic with a lot of potential to be both heroic and interesting (a psychic detective with a gun and a badge has a lot of cool implications that could lead to a lot of story possibilities). Anyway, I hope they do not kill off Parkman.*On that note, if they DO kill off an existing character, I am kind of hoping that it is the Guy-Who-Can-Go-Through-Walls. Anyone with that power who is failing to feed his own child is honestly too dumb to live. Plus, hsi power is not that interesting to me, and his death would put Micah directly back in Nikki/Jessica's hands, which is better dramatically than the kid going back and forth between the mother and the father, which has been played out. Micah and Nikki are more interesting as "us against the world" than the uninteresting domestic drama of mom versus dad, in my book at least.*Also, if they kill another character, it should probably be a male character. Otherwise, the show might be tending towards the "women in refrigerators" phenomenon from the comics (look it up on Wikipedia, if you don't know the reference). So far, most of the murdered characters on this show have been women: the Wiki-girl waitress from the diner, Claire's cheerleader friend, Eden. It takes guts for writers to kill off a character, but it should be done organically in a way that meshes with the story (like Eden's murder), and not merely as a stunt. And there should be some equity between the genders of the killed, otherwise it just gets creepy when only female characters meet horrible ends (I know, I know, the indian geneticist's father was killed by Sylar, as was the guy with TK that Sylar killed, but these were almost non-characters compared to the women killed).*I would have preferred that Linderman was Claire's dad instead of Nathan. The characters relations to each other is getting more and more incestuous (metaphorically) and so is getting more and more unbelievable. They need to open up the story to more outside influences instead of going around and around in circles with the same characters. Nathan as the father was neither unexpected norapt, in my view, but OK, that is the writers' choice. I'll live with it. I AM glad that Malcolm McDowell seems to have been cast as Linderman. He is a great actor.*On another point, I think that Mr. Bennett is a compelling character, but I continue to wonder how this guy manages not to get killed and manages to order around other super-powered types. Why doesn't Haitian Guy tell Bennett to go fuck himself and wipe his mind blank? Why didn't Sylar just kill him when he escaped from his cell? Bennett must have some sort of power or technology himself, beyond just a handgun, some goons, and a few well-placed words. This needs to be explained or developed somehow, in my mind at least. I like the character, but his source of power is a bit of a plot hole*Eccleston is a good actor, but why on Earth Peter would trust Invisible Guy to be his mentor is beyond apparent reason. I wouldn't give Eccleston's character a quarter on the street, much less put my life in his hands and treat him as a mentor and savior, as Peter rather stupidly seems to be doing. What is the rationale for this? Eccleston's performance is bracing, and the scene where he chucked Peter off the roof was great, but the character is obviously nefarious and apparently half-mad, if not sociopathic. That Peter trusts him is another plot hole, and it messes with my suspension of disbelief.***I like the show a lot, but I hope they close up some of these plot holes. I would also like to see the Heroes world open up a bit and get a bit less insulated. When will the world at large get at least some notion that weird things are going on? Perhaps there needs to be a journalist character who learns something about the Heroes, even left-field types like the Lone Gunmen character types from the X-Files. I also like that there are older Heroes with a deeper past (Invisible Guy, Fire Woman, etc) as per Justice Society, as another poster labelled them. I like the idea that there is a history and that there are other characters and groups other than the immediate main characters. I hope they continue to develop this, and give us more new stuff. Anyway, those are some of my observations. Despite the criticisms, I like the show a lot, and look forward to more of it for the rest of the season.
Heroes neither Rising Stars that original of an idea by snowpuff	Feb 6th, 2007 11:46:30 PM
It's the story and characters that made both unique and compelling. I mean, dang, someone more dedicated than me could find dozens, hundreds (?) of examples of the same concept prior to Rising Stars. Even the 4400 is essentially the same thing and yet very different. It's only when you have TV shows or book or movies where you have, uh, say, Simba and Kimba, that it's hard to believe there's either simultaneous creation of similar concepts or something is appropriately inspired by former material but not theft.
Syler in lost ? by kingoflight	Feb 7th, 2007 12:18:20 AM
Anyone notice now that syler has the same sound effects as the black mist in lost ? Someones getting two pay checks this week!
Please say you're joking by snowpuff	Feb 7th, 2007 04:28:22 AM
Ordinary people becoming superheroes is probably the oldest idea in our history. In fact, I just happen to Bill Moyers right here! If you subscribe now, you'll receive all 900 hours of Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth...
Joseph Campell Is Also A Rip-Off Of Rising Stars!!! by snowpuff	Feb 7th, 2007 04:29:57 AM
I figured I'd beat you to that...
Peter's Development by _Maltheus_	Feb 7th, 2007 10:10:24 AM
I don't like that Peter can remember the powers after a single exposure. It makes him too much like Sylar and it was an interesting limitation that he had to be physically close to someone to have any ability. And what makes this invisible guy a guru? How does he KNOW that Peter wouldn't die after pushing him off the building. Pretty fucking risky stunt and I would have killed him for it, regardless of the outcome. Although I guess now that Peter's dreams make sense. I hate when Hollywood gives people magic dreams without any explanation (within the context of the show that is). Perhaps they will also explain the coincidence of two super-powered hero couples hooking up by saying their powers are actually the result of a genetically modified venereal disease.
Re: Pushing Peter off a building by David Lazarus Long	Feb 7th, 2007 10:22:11 AM
He said it himself, "If you couldn't do it, you were useless in the first place, and if you died, well I just defused the bomb myself." What's with people picking on Invisible? He sure as hell didn't want to be some damn guru. He wants to go back to pickpocketing rich NYer's and not having a care in the world. Except that if he doesn't at least TRY, there won't be any more rich people TO pickpocket. Are we watching the same show, people?
Gee, I can't stop a bomb from going off... by _Maltheus_	Feb 7th, 2007 11:10:29 AM
...and I'd be quite pissed if someone pushed me off a roof. I actually like the invisible guy, I just think he stepped over the line with the whole attempted murder thing. As for the city blowing up he's taking that on the word of someone who may be delusional and I think he only half believes it's true or he'd be getting the hell out of New York already.
Point taken, Maltheus by David Lazarus Long	Feb 7th, 2007 11:24:16 AM
but I get the feeling he's seen this type of thing happen before. "Oh, you're one of them. A sponge." He knows Peter is the real deal, considering he can see thru his invisiblity, and he hasn't run because deep down, he's a good guy. No one wants millions of people's deaths on thier conscience. You're right tho, I'd be little miffed if someone pushed me off a 30 story building.
New Peter power theory by David Lazarus Long	Feb 7th, 2007 11:33:11 AM
How about this: He can only 'keep' the powers of people that are genetically related to him. He only has visions when he's in the same general area as Isaac, but he can fly and regenerate at will. It's far-fetched, I know, but it's the only way I can justify the terrible cliche that was making Nathan be Claire's daddy, and it limits his powers somewhat so that he doesn't become all-powerful. Afterall, we know he'll live past this season since future Hiro knew him as having a scar. That bomb goes off in about 2 weeks in-show time, and I doubt they can fit the scar in before then. Of course, that brings up the question of, "How can he have a scar if he can regenerate at will?" which is beyond me.
I hate the Peter "remembers" powers thing by snowpuff	Feb 7th, 2007 01:14:58 PM
It makes him more impossibly more powerful than Sylar or any other hero.
Questions questions questions by PwnedByStallone	Feb 7th, 2007 01:16:22 PM
how is this show different from Lost again? Besides the bad acting and utterly juvenile lame-ass marketing (Save the cheerleader, save the world. Are you on the list? Who's her daddy?) that is. To me it seemed like Sylar used a funny voice and it wasn't just to show the mom being hurt. and the fact thta Peter can store powers and use them whenever kind of sucks to me. Does that mean he and Sylar are the same or possibly brothers? Does it mean the others are rendered useless or that they can do the same thing if they learn? Why will Peter have a scar if he can regenerate? Is the Hiro we saw with the sword from an alternative future? It opens up a whole can of worms that I'm not sure these writers can even figure out. And why'll I'm asking q's why was Nicki/Jessica set free. what is her kid's actual power? What is her fucking deal even. It's 2/3 of the season through and we're still being dicked around with her character. Not saying it's a bad show. Just frustrating.
That might be interesting Lazarus... by _Maltheus_	Feb 7th, 2007 02:25:42 PM
...but then, he had his dream about blowing up NY while in a Texas hospital and was presumably far enough away from Isaac at the time that he shouldn't have been absorbing his powers. I hadn't considered the scar thing. But consider this, why would Hiro come back at all if NY hadn't blown up in his time line? I'm guessing that in future Hiro's reality, the cheerleader died before Floppy Hair Boy encountered her (hence the warning), so he didn't learn the healing power (explaining the scar).
Good call by David Lazarus Long	Feb 7th, 2007 02:43:18 PM
on the alternate timeline explaining the scar (or lack thereof). While Peter was in the hospital in Odessa, Isaac was in Primatech Paper in Odessa. Close enough, ne? Or he's just supersponge and therefore he must die. Either way is cool with me, not really in love with Peter as a character or an actor, but they seem to be pushing for him to be the 'leader' of sorts. Possibly just to make it even more shocking when he dies. Although... If Hiro did come from an alternate timeline, wouldn't he NOT come back in the new timeline? Which brings us to our old friend, the space-time-continuum-shatterin g-paradox. Freakin' paradoxes.
Isnt this a Two part Interview?? by Lennard	Feb 7th, 2007 04:02:15 PM
The intro was worded kinda weird?? Didnt he say this was a two part Int?? so where is part two??
2-weeks from now, when Peter goes nuclear by Immortal_Fish	Feb 7th, 2007 04:23:42 PM
Just deck him. And if he starts to go nuclear again once he wakes up, deck him again.
don't make peter too powerful by Mr_X	Feb 7th, 2007 04:59:52 PM
and lets not have the higherlander " there can only be one" type scenario. you know what im talking about.
Seems like you can also use the Hatian by _Maltheus_	Feb 7th, 2007 05:04:42 PM
Since they implied that Peter had to be thinking of the cheerleader to use his power, they should use the Hatian to make him forget he ever met radioactive guy.
Damn, Immortal_Fish... by Somerichs	Feb 7th, 2007 05:06:30 PM
that's some funny shit, and true, too. You should re-post that at the beginning of next week's TB so everyone sees it, since most have probably moved on from this one...
George Takei's liscense plate on Heroes... by boba_rob	Feb 7th, 2007 06:56:46 PM
Did anyone catch Hiro's Dad's liscense plate on the car? It read NCC-1701. Cool huh?!
Claire's father... by Jim Jam Bongs	Feb 7th, 2007 10:34:56 PM
So Claire, who doesn't resemble either Nathan or the chick from Boston Public (other than for being blonde), is their love child. Excuse me while I drink a tall frosty glass of WTF, and roll my eyes.
Peter's power depends on how he feels about a person. by Jim Jam Bongs	Feb 7th, 2007 10:41:54 PM
My theory is that the Invisible Man is only able to control his power because of the fact that he's already a misanthrope -- he dislikes people, and therefore prefers to be invisible. On the other hand, the key for Peter being able to control his is based on the way he feels about the particular person he absorbs the power from. He has absolute, warm, fuzzy feelings for Claire -- thus, this positive feeling enables him to control the healing power more. Nathan would be the next person he has the most positive feelings for (for the most part). So he should be able to eventually fly on his own. It's the powers from the people he doesn't know or has negative feelings about that will give him problems. Bottom line: If he wants to heal, he remembers the positive things about Claire. If he wants to fly, he has to remember positive feelings about his brother. He probably can't control powers derived from Sylar, since he has obviously negative feelings toward Sylar.
Not sure if Zarles has seen Risky Business but... by nomihs	Feb 7th, 2007 11:36:41 PM
That is what Metalwater was quoting from. When "Booger" (can't remember his name) Joel's friend was giving Joel advice on life. Classic moment in the film, which later comes back on him in the end. And yes, I admit I was wrong about Eric Roberts being the father of Claire, AND also him being Linderman. My magic 8 ball was dropped like 35 times before I consulted it.
It would be stupid if Peter DIDN'T hold onto powers... by Burgundy82	Feb 8th, 2007 05:07:13 AM
Come on, it would be a little weak if he had to stand 5 feet from someone to use their abilities. That's not how Rogue's power works either. On the other hand, I do hope that the powers can eventually run out, and/or have to be recharged... keep in mind they haven't elaborated on that yet.
I Am Not Picking On Invisible Guy by Barron34	Feb 8th, 2007 09:42:49 AM
I like Invisible Guy. I am picking on Peter for treating him like a mentor and following him around like a puppy dog. Or more accurately, I am picking on the writers for writing the Peter character this way. It makes no sense. Invisible Guy seems more like a deranged British hobo than some sort of font of wisdom. If Peter wanyed to control his powers, why would he not try to work with the Indian Professor X wannabe, who is obviously benign and at least has a PhD in genetics. Invisible Guy, who I find to be an entertaining character, comes off nonetheless as half-mad and near sociopathic. What is the logic of Peter looking to this character for help? It is like the Chewbacca Defense: it does not make sense.***On the matter of Peter: I like the character, he has shown guts and is heroic, and basically almost sacrificed his own life to save Claire. The show is called "HEROES", not "NARCISSISTIC FUCKERS". If you take Peter out of the equation, the only clearlyheroic characters you have left are Hiro, Parkman, and maybe Issac. Nathan is obviously very self-interested and perhaps even corrupt, but might turn out to be a half-heroic anti-hero. Anyway, I do not object to the Peter character, just to the way they are writing him as following Invisible Guy around for wisdom. He comes off at best as naive, and at worst stupid.*As far as Petr's powers go, I have no objection to him being powerful. DC has Superman, so why shouldn't Heroes have a main Superhero who is very powerful. Even if he is multi-powered, that doesn't neccessarily mean he can use all his powers at once, which tames his power level a bit. As far as how he can access his powers, obviosuly he first needs to be in proximity to absorb a power first, but it is clearly ambigous how he can access the powers later when the person he absorbed them from is not around. My guess is that all the Heroes' powers, while genetic in origin, require some sort of mental activation. THis was implied early on by the Indian Guys research that the brains of the Heroes is the master control of their powers. In other words, their powers might lie in their DNA, but the activation switch is in the brain. This explains why Peter can activate his powers by summoning up a strong memory of the person he absorbed the power from. An earlier poster hypothesized that it must be a positive memory, but I would suggest that it could be ANY strong memory, positive or negative, as long as it concentrates Peter's mind. Furthermore, I would suspect that the more powers Peter has absorbed and the more memories he has, the more confused and jumbled his power use might be, therefore putting another kind of limit on him becoming too powerful for story purposes. As his mental and emotional discipline improve, so perhaps will his command over his powers. I have no problem with Peter becoming the quasi-Superman of the group. He is an earnest and moral guy who is well-intentioned and who is trying to use his powers responsibly. Sounds like a Hero to me, and a good candidate for some sort of leadership or focal role. As a side note, perhaps the scar he gets is a result of some type of wound that Claire's regeneration can not heal. Perhaps Claire has her own version of Kryptonite, some sort of substance that she can not filluy heal from. Just an idea.As far as the mental trigger hypothesis goes, it could also go towards explaining why Hiro has not been able to use his powers. If his powers require mental concentration to activate, then a psychological impediment could result in a kind of power impediment. Hiro has this superhero fantasy code and mission that is his psychological framework. He has come to believe that he needs this special sword to use his powers. This creates a psychological impediment to using his powers unless he can get the sword. The sword itself is not magical, but is rather a powerful psychological symbol to Hiro that can free him from his psychological block. Therefore, the sword is special to him, and psychologicalically neccessary for Hiro to break his block and unleash his powers. I think if you look at other characters, you will see echoes of this sort of theme. Issac, for example, could not paint using his powers unless he had his heroin, which was a powerful psychological crutch. He lost his powers after he kicked heroin, but gradually regained them after he began to heal psychologically from his addiction and broke his habit. Sylar needs to dissect other Heroes brains to take their powers and activate his. Nikki/Jessica has a split personality and her powers only seem to spark when she has strong psychological motivation, especially when her relationship with Micah is threatened. And so on. The other characters seem to be able to activate their powers at will or automatically, but most of them seem psychologically normal and relatively uncomplicated, and so do not have too many difficulties (so far) using their powers. Clearly many of these character are int he early days of developing and controlling their powers***
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