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very nice!
by tristeele
Jan 31st, 2007
09:42:21 PM
i like these pics alot. cant wait to see the remastered shows!
second?
by Turd Furgeson
Jan 31st, 2007
09:46:14 PM
cool
I just got off the phone with Leonard Nimoy
by Turd Furgeson
Jan 31st, 2007
09:47:44 PM
And he said he still hates Shatner....
Ben Affleck for Spock
by Turd Furgeson
Jan 31st, 2007
09:48:40 PM
He wouldn't even have to act..... He's already wooden and has horrible delivery......
DIGITAL REMASTERING DEPARTMENT GOTTA EAT
by Turd Furgeson
Jan 31st, 2007
09:49:45 PM
OH YEAH....
Now THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT!!!
by Nosferatu Jones
Jan 31st, 2007
09:49:53 PM
As Spock would undoubtedly say: "This looks fuckin' shweet!" I think these remastered episodes are finally starting to hit a nice stride. LOVE IT!!!
Did Merrick cover the release date for the DVDs?
by adambalm
Jan 31st, 2007
09:51:21 PM
I believe it was announced a few weeks back, or at least that the remastered eps would be out on DVD before the year was out. But I didn't see it covered here.
The title of this movie should be
by Turd Furgeson
Jan 31st, 2007
09:51:42 PM
Star Trek XI- TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION..... Oh yeah TFD, it's catching on....
It's nice to see the studios getting us psyched...
by nomihs
Jan 31st, 2007
10:10:43 PM
Getting the trek fans a taste of what is to come in the form of J.J.'s vision. Can't wait for the Kirk on Blue Skinned Alien (soft) porn.
Pointless
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Jan 31st, 2007
10:11:17 PM
What is the need and desire to tamper with something that did not need tampering with? I think it's a fucking disgrace to Rodnberrry that this is taking place at all. 1st Star Wars now this. So glad I got my box set of the orginals in tact.
I'm of the mind that the digital effects...
by rbatty024
Jan 31st, 2007
10:14:20 PM
actually enhance the show. I feel like it's actually taking place in the Trek universe rather than on a crappy soundstage. The best thing these designers did was make sure everything has a retro feel. It meshes perfectly.
Mad Cool
by DarthDooku
Jan 31st, 2007
10:17:30 PM
Good to see that they're really improving on these stuff, looks really nice.
RE : Allpowerfulwhatever
by Real Deal
Jan 31st, 2007
10:26:26 PM
The only pointless thing here is someone trying to think for Roddenberry. By the way his wife in an interview said he would have been in favor of it because he was always looking for the best, cutting edge way to portray Star Trek on the screen. So there. You'd have to be blind not to see this is making these stories new and fresh all over again. And that's without changing the story or the acting. Keep up the good work CBS! Ps. Next up " The Doomsday Machine " !
Meh, I prefer the "original" examples ...
by 7-zark-7
Jan 31st, 2007
10:29:00 PM
... with the possible exception of the planet shot. That new shuttlecraft bay is too cluttered with detail for its own good. Just my own opinion, which I'm well-aware is about to get stomped on.
Has AICN become CBS' marketing dpt.?
by GregoryHarbin
Jan 31st, 2007
10:32:34 PM
I mean, cool, but...why is this all of a sudden starting with the promoting?

Also: I'll watch when I can get it on HD-DVD. I have no desire to watch a 30 year old show edited and with commercials, even if there are new effects.

Everyone will have their preference
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Jan 31st, 2007
10:32:50 PM
There is no right or wrong and I am not trying to think for Rodnberry. His wife's comments are hers and not his since he's not here to really say anything so we are both assuming. Touche. I prefer my trek not fucked with thank you very much.
JJ will have a party scene at Starfleet Academy.
by kabong
Jan 31st, 2007
10:35:11 PM
The guy who was Weiss on "Alias" will roll his eyes about Spock being boring. The "Felicity" chick will show up as a Starfleet admiral. And the title has got to be . . . TEEN TREK . . . with the emphasis on TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEN
it's really half the fun...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
10:39:07 PM
When Star Wars was retooled and now classic Trek, half the fun is how people react to it. Personally I like what they've done with these episodes. I agree that it enhances without distracting, and find I prefer the new effects above the old ones. But I thoroughly enjoy reading comments from people who don't like them...and it's even more fun reading stuff from folks who downright hate them. So...keep on keeping on 7-zark-7...long live The Fiery Phoenix...*transmute*
AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
by 8footTallGopher
Jan 31st, 2007
10:42:14 PM
in tact?
RE : Allpowerfulwhateve
by ulcer
Jan 31st, 2007
10:46:12 PM
Nice to see, AllPowerfulWizardOfOz, that you think you know Gene Roddenberry woud think as much his wife who has shared his life for 20 years. There is absolutely no reason to watch these tired old shows ever again; the new special effects gives them new life.
you know
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
10:50:51 PM
in tact, out of tact, got a thumb-tact?
no tact!
by 8footTallGopher
Jan 31st, 2007
10:56:46 PM
tactfully put! your 'tact' wit is intact.
deep space orion?
by Amy Chasing
Jan 31st, 2007
10:57:42 PM
that orion ship looks like someone didn't know how to build Deep Space 9 out of lego and got the color wrong too. But I'm with that guy from 'Free Enterprise': "Only originals!" (although it's nice to see these 'DVD extras' being inserted into remastered episodes - nice job if you can get it).
yes
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
10:58:46 PM
and you'll be receiving the AICN good spelling star of the day. Good on ya, Man!
Did someone say orion?
by Orionsangels
Jan 31st, 2007
11:00:14 PM
Forest Whitaker hosting SNL, you heard it her first.
I liked the original shot of the Enterprise
by LordMadhammer
Jan 31st, 2007
11:10:08 PM
that classic "yup, here's the Enterprise" shot that they used in like every episode is burned into my brain... changing it just seems gratuitous and Lucas-y.
Scooping info from LENO, eh, Orionsangels?
by George Newman
Jan 31st, 2007
11:11:13 PM
gosh i was watching too, surfing back and forth with adult swim
Everyone's seen the ST: Of Gods and Men trailer, right?
by George Newman
Jan 31st, 2007
11:13:21 PM
http://www.startrekofgodsandme n.com/
Spock gotta pon farr
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
11:18:19 PM
It' Starfleet Week, the ships are in spacedock... time to score some pointy-eared, prearranged vulcan honeys...
As fun as tryin 2 flip a coin while having a seizure
by George Newman
Jan 31st, 2007
11:18:57 PM
un-truncated text: "It looks about as much fun as trying to flip a while having a seizure"
quote from han solo...
by theonecalledshoe
Jan 31st, 2007
11:24:53 PM
"Instead of a big dark blur, I see a big bright blur." heh.
Damn you George!
by Orionsangels
Jan 31st, 2007
11:26:48 PM
Sad when you gotta get your news from talkshows hehe. Conan just said Armed and Famous was cancelled, d'oh!
conan's hair...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
11:28:34 PM
...gotta eat.
conan's hair...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
11:28:39 PM
...gotta eat.
dammit...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
11:30:15 PM
you're not supposed to feed it twice after midnight... everyone run for yer lives!!!!!!!!!!!
rabbitte's post GOTTA repEAT
by George Newman
Jan 31st, 2007
11:30:50 PM
yeah
wow
by CornsilkSW
Jan 31st, 2007
11:32:23 PM
you can see the pre-fab CGI textures all over the sides of the polygon shapes in the effects. That's just sad.
just...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 31st, 2007
11:33:37 PM
never twice after midnight... run!!!! run fer yer lives!!!
Kirk Shot First!
by Gorrister
Jan 31st, 2007
11:35:00 PM
I don't really mind these new versions of Star Trek. Especially since the originals are still widely available (and probably always will be) and, so far, they aren't using CGI to change storylines, like having the Gorn Captain shoot at Kirk first.
Jonathan Rhys Meyers For Spock!
by Darth Fabulous
Jan 31st, 2007
11:53:59 PM
In Star Trek XI, not erasing Nimoy and using Meyers as a "digital remastering" of Spock in TOS: Special Editions.
gimme those giant statues!
by werideatdusk
Feb 1st, 2007
12:03:21 AM
i loved how they retouched Vulcan in the DVD version of TMP to match "III", "IV," and the later TV shows. I love that Vulcan has those gigantic statues and temples.. such a mysterious place. I really hope they do a lot for "Amok Time" when the time comes.
Somebody who loves Trek, please explain
by ebolamonkey
Feb 1st, 2007
12:11:30 AM
How this is any fucking different than what Lucas did with the original trilogy.
TOTAL FUCKING REMASTERING SUCKS!!!
by Motoko Kusanagi
Feb 1st, 2007
12:27:46 AM
there!I said it!
I don't LOVE Trek, but I like it enough to explain.....
by Gorrister
Feb 1st, 2007
01:35:01 AM
The number one difference is that, when Lucas screwed with Star Wars, he refused to allow the unaltered versions of the movie to be released to the public. Even what that changed last year, it was only as a cheap "bonus" feature and didn't take advantage of the quality that DVD could bring to the Trilogy. This version of Star Trek will exist side-by-side with the original versions. Lucas intended the "Special Editions" to REPLACE the originals. These versions also do not attempt to alter the original storylines as well (ie: Greedo shoots first, Han steps on Jabbas tail...and lives!, Emperor's altered ESB scene, "young" Anakin's ghost, etc) and doesn't overload the audience with useless special effects (ie: all the fucking Rontos in Mos Eisley).
I love Star Trek and I'll tell you what GL gid wrong
by George Newman
Feb 1st, 2007
01:43:44 AM
These new Trek FX are not changing the story like some of the segments in the SW SEs. No one complains about the new FX in hte Death Star trench run because the FX just made the scene cooler. The entrance to cloud city and those background effects were great! These "sprucings" in ST and SW are fine. But GL didnt stop there. He altered characterizations and inserted distracting excess. I don't need to argue "Han shot first" cuz that is ellaborated here every other day. My biggest problems are with ROTJ anyway. Why change the music in Jabba's palace? GL:"I was never really happy with what we did, but now we could go back and create the Musical Number we always intended." GL just lost sight of what was important. The truth is nobody cared that there wasn't a musical number. Just hurry up and get to the lightsabers. We didnt need a bunch of jive jibberish "chicka monkey ho" and CG alien spit. That blue alien muppet wasn't on beat with his instrument before, and its even worse now...Why does the Sarlacc(googled that spelling) Pit have a mouth inside of its mouth? I though those were teeth on the walls, but I guess not, cuz everything now just goes into the toothless beak... Why change the closing ewok song if you're gonna replace it with something even more forgettablethan before, and something even harder for Lando to clap to? Ugh, I cant believe i just got sucked into that, and i 've got so much more,. someone help me out
thx Gorrister, i'm typing slow with no contact lenses
by George Newman
Feb 1st, 2007
01:49:11 AM
I might loathe that altered DVD ESB emperor scene more than any other change. ludicrous. Why?! Why, Biggs, WHY??!!!!
And I'm not defending every new ST effect either
by George Newman
Feb 1st, 2007
01:51:04 AM
Those stills from the shuttle bay sequence look like anus
I like them they look classic not cg'd to death
by skiff
Feb 1st, 2007
02:21:02 AM
I like the colors to very natural the doc looks nice too.I love that old gost grey look.
I have to say..
by Lemming
Feb 1st, 2007
03:45:06 AM
the preview trailers with the voice over thing make this remastered trek look/sound like some really dark and cool shit. not sure if that's a testiment to the show and it's remastering, or just good trailer hype.
"gotta eat"
by Milton Waddams
Feb 1st, 2007
05:18:26 AM
You gotta eat people are almost as funny as the damn you michael bay people! No matter how many times I read that I almost piss myself laughing! You are some funny bastards!
I hope that was sarcasm
by Lone Fox
Feb 1st, 2007
06:33:19 AM
Screw these remastered efforts. The originals look so much better. They capture the time and spirit of the series. They were CREATIVE. Next up: Batman TV show redmastered. Adam West with nipple armour against a gothic 30's style cityscape. Eat one!
the shots look good
by just pillow talk
Feb 1st, 2007
06:33:47 AM
but I do not understand the need to 'update' the look. The show was made 40 yrs ago, why change how it looks? It's part of what made it appealing to fans. Perhaps every single movie/TV show made pre 2000 should be digitally enhanced? That includes original Star Wars....
Are they gonna CG moving antennae...
by Kid Z
Feb 1st, 2007
07:19:58 AM
...on all the Andorians, too? Keep the Tellarites as they are though. I liked the "piggy" look. The somewhat non-piggy Tellarites in Enterprise were lame. Well, actually, that whole series was lame. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, they redo these space scenes and some of the old matte shots, then the rest of the series is still all balsa wood and aluminum strips from Lowes. It's not "Cool! New FX!" It's just jarring and, yes, again... lame!
Can't wait to see flames on the Doomsday Machine...
by SpyGuy
Feb 1st, 2007
07:46:52 AM
...or Tribbles replaced by walkie-talkies. Still, it sounds better than that new CGI remastered version of THE MUPPET SHOW.
I always thought
by SithMenace
Feb 1st, 2007
07:59:21 AM
that this episode was the better version of The Undiscovered Country.

Anyway, in my opinion, with the exception of Greedo shooting first, ANH special edition was a definite improvement over the original. I LOVE Star Wars but those fx looked dated by the early 80's. The extra scenes were really cool because it was our first new Star Wars in 12 years and they actually added to the movie. But as the SE trilogy progressed, the bonuses got more forced. The reason is by the time he did the original Empire and Jedi, he HAD the money he needed to make the movies he wanted, with some minor exceptions. So there was very little to add or fix on those two, and anything added to them was just a gimmick to get people into theaters.

Now, I think the added scenes in Empire are pretty good too, with the exception of Luke screaming as he fell and Fett's redubbed voice (travesty), but Jedi just got fucked over. In fact, I can't remember one addition to Jedi that I think enhanced it. If I remember right, there's the herd of banthas (kinda cool but unnecessary), the gay Sarlaac face, and the musical number. That's it, right? Not a single addition that added to that film. The cleaned up fx were nice, but they didn't even clean up the most glaring mistakes.

How about that guy who plays Sylar (sp?) on Heroes as S
by cutest_of_borg
Feb 1st, 2007
08:19:36 AM
Definitely a better choice that Affleck. Fuck you, Strabo.
SPOCK, that is.
by cutest_of_borg
Feb 1st, 2007
08:19:59 AM
That is all.
Turntable Shot
by gengrievous82
Feb 1st, 2007
08:40:34 AM
The onlookers in the window for the turntable shot are a bit too obvious in the 2D persuasion. Probably a time constraint and therefore a necessary evil, but the onlookers are definitely 2D digital mattes projected on the 3D environment. I need to stop reading Cinefex.
Journey To Babble?
by TheBaxter
Feb 1st, 2007
08:53:07 AM
Did the remaster the pronunciation of "Babel" for this episode too, now that everyone in the world has seemingly decided to pronounce it "Babble" instead?
Rubber masks all the way. Long live muppets!!
by George Newman
Feb 1st, 2007
10:55:16 AM
Looking at the puppets in Hitchhiker's Guide, I don't know why anyone would insist on CG characters over puppeteering. Puppets today are better than ever
CGI Khan pectorals
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Feb 1st, 2007
11:18:32 AM
I think that it should be done...Those things were as fake as that chicks breasts in Battle Beyond the Stars!
About Roddenberry's preference....
by DreadPirateRoberts
Feb 1st, 2007
12:11:12 PM
Anyone saying that Roddenberry would have been against this, or even that we don't know what he would have said , is wrong.

How do I know? Because he already voted on this in a way. When it came time for the films, he was all for changing the look of the Klingons and updating to newer sleeker ship designs since the money and technology allowed. He did not keep the Klingon makeup the same out of tradition or faithfulness to the old series. In fact, when asked about the new Klingon look he even said in one interview he would go back in time and change it in TOS if such a thing were possible. He thought they just looked cooler. And these new episodes are not changing stuff that extreme. (Yes, I KNOW that technically they don't have to anyway since the DS9 and Enterprise writers decided to work the old look/new look thing into the Cannon).
I thought the X-Wings looked pretty good
by SithMenace
Feb 1st, 2007
12:14:46 PM
Granted, CGI doesn't have the realism a photographed model has, but it was cool as they flew by and you could see the pilots moving inside. If there was one piece of CGI that bothered me in that movie it was Jabba and that whole sequence. The CGI wasn't that great and I prefer the mystery of just hearing about him until ROTJ. You hear Han talk about him in the first two so by the time you see him in Jedi he's already a legend.
Dude
by SithMenace
Feb 1st, 2007
12:16:11 PM
That was Khan's real chest. I know, I couldn't believe it either.
Khan's breasticles or Surfers silver cosmic package
by just pillow talk
Feb 1st, 2007
12:36:44 PM
whoever wins all of humanity loses...
Roddenberry GOTTA EAT!!!
by screamster101
Feb 1st, 2007
12:49:27 PM
Didn't GL already do this? Another part of my childhood... raped. I LOVE THOSE SHITTY SPECIAL EFFECTS!!!! If Gene were alive today, he would shit a sandwich over this.
Every one of you crybabies
by skydemon
Feb 1st, 2007
01:11:33 PM
who wanna come in here and whine about Whyyyyyyy the hell are they doing this; It's because there are a lot more fans like myself out here who love it, and think it's a good idea. BESIDES, unimproved versions are on TV Land, or DVD. The rest of us are going to enjoy this. I've been watching Star Trek since 74 and I think this is Great, and getting better all the time. As long as there are no "Greedo shot first" changes made, update the hell outta Star Trek, and Let's do TNG next.
WHY they are changing the special effects
by The Disco Plumber
Feb 1st, 2007
01:20:59 PM
Didn't anyone read the initial press release for the HD versions? They are doing the effects over because they HAD to. When they went back to the original film to remaster it for HD, the effects looked soooooo much worse in HD that they felt they needed to be re-done. I think the example they gave was that you could see through the Enterprise in many of he shots. Of course, his doesn't explain why they had to make the Gorn blink (a subtle touch I thought was awesome, by the way), but whatever. From what i understand, if they ever release ST:TNG in HD, they'll HAVE to redo those effects. Apparently, after the show was filmed, the film was transferred to video and the effects were added on the video. If they go back to the original film masters for HD, there will be NO effects. Way to think ahead guys.
Just to clarify
by ebolamonkey
Feb 1st, 2007
01:26:08 PM
When I was a kid, I thought Star Wars and Star Trek were amazing. Even watching the cheap effects today, I remember how I felt when I though they were the greatest special FX that could ever possibly be produced. These remasterings only seem to prove to me that (1) they can't really update them, they don't feel like a part of the original and (2) since they can't impress me with tacked on effects, the nostalgic side of me wants to see the originals. Glad to hear these won't become the de facto standard Treks.
impressive
by mrbong
Feb 1st, 2007
01:32:44 PM
i think it's great that they can go back and make seamless, perfect touch up jobs on things like Star Trek and Star Wars. the excellent stories don't change, the picture just looks better. anyone who is so devistated by this thing we call "new technology" can fuck off and watch Battleship Potempkin on their Betamax ad nauseum, quite frankly.
from one extreme to the other
by monorail77
Feb 1st, 2007
01:58:59 PM
First Star Wars made so many digital changes, there was a fan outcry. Now Star Trek, mindful of the Star Wars backlash, makes its digital changes. They are respectful and unobtrusive, to a fault. The more I see of these innocuous, unnecessary changes, the more I wonder "what's the point?" The pendulum sure has swung. Maybe the next "digital reimagining" of classic sci-fi will find that happy balance that has so far eluded both Star Wars and Star Trek.
Vulcan's had its books cooked by New Line!
by performingmonkey
Feb 1st, 2007
02:03:38 PM
You knoe Bob Shaye gotta eat.
They need to go back to the Star Trek movies
by Darth Kosher
Feb 1st, 2007
02:14:23 PM
Remaster Shatner's hair.
THE GORN SHOOTS FIRST!
by Abin Sur
Feb 1st, 2007
03:09:50 PM
Damn you Rick Berman!!
Lucas is a hypocrite
by Gorrister
Feb 1st, 2007
04:45:55 PM
Back in the 70's, an FX company (that eventually went on to do effects for Last Starfighter) pitched Lucas with the idea of using digital effects in Star Wars. They even did an animatic for part of the dogfight scene. Lucas shot the idea down. Now he's see as the pioneer of digital effects....yet he originally scoffed at the idea when he made Star Wars.
could Lost in Space be next??
by Texbear2000
Feb 1st, 2007
08:36:47 PM
lets replace the robot with the terminator..and put boobs on Penny!
Airdate & Time, Anyone?
by jorson2
Feb 1st, 2007
09:56:55 PM
Just so everyone can actually WATCH the remastered episode when it debuts (and I know it's on televison now because I've seen at least one remastered show), could this site include a little reminder of at least what day of the week and time of day we might expect this? As said, I've seen one remastered episode but can't remember day and time.
Airdate & Time, Anyone?
by jorson2
Feb 1st, 2007
09:56:58 PM
Just so everyone can actually WATCH the remastered episode when it debuts (and I know it's on televison now because I've seen at least one remastered show), could this site include a little reminder of at least what day of the week and time of day we might expect this? As said, I've seen one remastered episode but can't remember day and time.
Read George Lucas and the Digital Revolution...
by SK229
Feb 1st, 2007
09:58:16 PM
Lucas put up the money for that shit and pushed for some of it, but just barely. He's like a moody side character throughout his own story, avoiding people, creating separate entrances for himself, hardly ever being seen but always being felt in the form of strained budgets and weird memos. The book is an insanely interesting and rich read, and it's all from the perspective of the people who were actually there. Seriously, go to amazon and look the book up and you'll see customer reviews from people like Ben Burtt and Alvy Ray Smith. It also has great photos of the building of Skywalker Ranch. Christ, I knew place was big, but not THAT big.
Gorrister's right, but the thing was the 'jaggies'...
by SK229
Feb 1st, 2007
10:05:55 PM
and the surfaces were too shiny. One of the biggest mantras from the early years of digital effects was 'no jaggies'. I have to say, one of the things I was most surprised by is how early on some of this stuff was happening. We're talking... it's been a while since I read the book, but I believe like 1970 or so that some of these guys started to come together with the idea of doing computer effects from places like Xerox and the New York Institute of Technology. I think the very first image that someone got perfect and rendered was a tea kettle. It's also interesting how they knew the different stages they'd have to master, like how do you get the image and then print it to film at film quality? Crazy stuff, highly recommended...
Airdates
by MGTHEDJ
Feb 1st, 2007
11:11:14 PM
This weekend, on a broadcast channel. Check your local listings and look all the way from Friday night to about 7 am Monday morning. In most markets, including mine, it is on the channel that was running the 4th season of "Star Trek: Enterprise." Usually it's on between 1-5 A.M.----later-----m
Star Trek: Remasturbated
by BannedOnTheRun
Feb 2nd, 2007
04:01:21 AM
Gimme that sweet alien lovin'!
Leave Lucas Alone
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Feb 2nd, 2007
07:36:37 AM
Jeez, you don't own Star Wars, he does! Now we have some individuals calling him a hypocrite because he did not want LAST STAR FIGHTER quality CGI in STAR WARS! Go watch that movie again, and tell him that was a bad call effects-wise.
oh no, Lucas deserves any outcry against him
by just pillow talk
Feb 2nd, 2007
09:02:22 AM
And instead of wasting time updating the original SW, he should have been working on the prequels story/direction wise and not lost himself in CGI.
Captain Pike said it best:
by Darth Kosher
Feb 2nd, 2007
11:35:16 AM
Beeeep.
Cool New Effects!
by Maegnarval
Feb 2nd, 2007
03:35:44 PM
The New remastered F/X upgrades are looking cool! Can't wait to see it all when it comes out on DvD/blu-ray Discs! Just one thing, is the funny way that the Enterprise likes to orbit the planets appearently with it's port side always facing the planet! Or how about that shot of the Enterprise with it's Backend towards the Asteriod-like Space ship! You'd think the crew would re-orientate the Enterprise! Seems more realistic if they showed the Enterprise with its belly towards any planet it orbits!!!! Or if you really wanna get Nitpicky, with it's main sensor array pointing down at the planet, since there are no visible sensor arrays on the Enterprises belly to scan a planets surface!
just pillow talk
by Mr. Charmand Grimloch
Feb 2nd, 2007
04:54:19 PM
This is a test. How about you shut the fuck up, dickhead? Hey cutest of borg, long time, no see. How's it goin'? Remastered Trek is a great idea. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an ignorant jackass. Period.
Yeah, thats right, i'm back......
by Mr. Charmand Grimloch
Feb 2nd, 2007
05:11:28 PM
Trust me, anyone who starts whining over the remastered Trek is going to go to bed crying, because i'm gonna flame you to Hell and back again. Is it perfect? Hardly. In fact, i'd love it if they would go farther, and i've seen the arguments suggesting that they do. But what you all must realize, and i'm sure some of you are too young or stupid to know better, we are talking about Paramount here, and they have NEVER EVER EVER spent the full amount of time and effort on anything known as Star Trek when it comes to making spotless, perfect effects integrated into an episode or movie. The job is always half baked. For Christ's sake, even with the full blown effort 5 years ago to "finish" ST:TMP with a Director's Edition, they forgot that it would be a good idea to actually do a frame by frame cleanup on the original print. So what we have is a beautifully realized version of the original film, but with the same dust and dirt specks that were present when the movie was first brought out on VHS. With these original series episodes being given a digital tweaking, it is clear, at least on the broadcasts to this point, that scratches and some dirt still exist on the original prints, and clearly nothing has been done to correct that. I agree that it would be wonderful if somehow entire backgrounds could be rendered digitally, along with correcting any and all visuals that are deemed to be questionable, but to expect that sort of effort is setting oneself up for disappointment. It would be great, but it aint gonna happen. For that matter, the plainly evident stuntmen that suddenly appear on screen every time a fight ensues could certainly use some Lucas style fixing, but it won't happen, and that's too bad because the entire point of this exercise is to make the episodes ready and presentable for high definition broadcast. Clearly, a large screen in high def is going to make a fight sequence between two stuntmen who are obviously not the original actors playing the scene's characters is going to look far more foolish than even the original photographic effects that might have dirt and debris inherant in their production from 40 years ago. If asked which one "hurts" the credibility of the scene more, my vote would have gone with the stunt doubles. However, don't misunderstand. I applaud the intentions of the production team to give a facelift to this legendary series. I just wish they would be allowed to truly "go nuts" and tweak everything that would need to be tweaked. (again, don't misunderstand. the originals are great AS IS, but to see the effects updated is a great idea.) Star Trek's writing and performances were always ahead of the special effects in terms of quality, so this is certainly something that should be welcomed. However, the fact that they are tiptoeing around fixing "everything" is unnecessary. It would be possible to do a full blown overhaul on every visual in each show, while still staying true to each effects shot in terms of how it was directed, and never affecting the flow of the story. This is, sadly, another example of Paramount not investing fully into a Star Trek project. Can you imagine how much better the Trek universe would be if all the money that was sunk into "Voyager" and "Enterprise" had instead been placed into a "no holds barred" remastering of the entire original series?
Tobias Menzies for Spock, David Boreanaz for Kirk
by YackBacker
Feb 2nd, 2007
05:27:15 PM
I'm outtie!
Surely not THE Grimloch of the good old days?
by cutest_of_borg
Feb 2nd, 2007
09:10:31 PM
Welcome back, friend. Life is good, thank you very much. Yourself? Thoughts on STXI? Can Damon fill Shat's shoes?
KIRK'S GOTTA EAT
by chetedawg02
Feb 3rd, 2007
11:59:03 AM
Best scenes are edited out and missing anyway
by rrchambers
Feb 3rd, 2007
05:46:18 PM
Has anyone noticed that the new remastered episodes are edited and scenes and/or dialog are missing? At least they are on WLNO Buffalo.
Yes, cutest of borg.....
by Mr. Charmand Grimloch
Feb 3rd, 2007
06:00:26 PM
It is I, Grimloch, from the old days. Parted from thee, and never parted. Never and always touching and.....oh, wait, that isn't quite how we should greet each other is it? How is "the old gang" (ya know, Ribbons, Orionsangel, and that bunch of bunch of fuck sticks who used to dare claim LOTR was better than SW. Ya know, the likes of Morgoth and such? Hopefully they are gone. Ribbons and Orionsangel, however, i have nothing but good words about, although Orion and I used to swap insults. As for Trek XI, i am happily back to being interested in seeing a TREK film for the first time in over 10 years. I am not well versed in J.J. however, but i can only assume he would by default have to be better than Rick Berman. Tell me your thoughts on the remastered Trek. Since i assume you read my post, you know that i am very happy about it. Just wish they would go further.
cutest....
by Mr. Charmand Grimloch
Feb 3rd, 2007
06:05:31 PM
Is Damon an absolute confirmation? I have heard he is NOT yet officially connected with the film. If it happens, i have to admit that my hopes would have been for the casting of these iconic characters to go to talented, but unknown actors. Casting obvious celebrities in such roles is, to me, a dissapointing move.
Grimsy
by cutest_of_borg
Feb 3rd, 2007
09:37:14 PM
Haven't spoken w/the LOTR crowd in a while...thanks to HBO have revisited SW lately. In fact, just watched Ep. 5 today. I had forgotten just how good SW can be. Not to take anything away from LOTR but I think SW is better suited to repeat viewings which may cement its place in movie history as the "best" fantasy/sci-fi film. It is much easier for the kiddies to come in and just watch from any point during the saga-not so much with LOTR. As for remastered TREK - hell yes, I love it! I think we are getting a preview of STXI in these remastered eps. Of course, the big screen treatment will pour on the fx but I think the Enterprise may look quite the same. At least I hope so. I can't imagine JJ will change the icon of Trek too much. As for JJ, he is excellent at creating interesting, flawed, noble characters. Check out Lost this coming WED to see what I mean. As for Damon - no, he is not confirmed. His is just the name that has been bandied about by the fanboys. If the on-line rags are to be believed (this site included) Damon has been approached by JJ for Capt. Kirk discussions. Supposedly Shat has given his blessing. We'll see. I think Damon could do a great job. He can definitely act. I am more concered about the plot. Some rumors are that it takes place when Kirk and Spock meet at Starfleet Academy. I hope this is incorrect. I think it would be better to see them both already out of school and on active duty. Perhaps the film could deal with how Kirk gets the Enterprise. This way we get to see Pike and Spock in action on the ENT and Kirk doing something heroic to impress Pike enough to recommend Kirk as his successor. Lets hope they keep the overall continuity going. Here's two picks for roles: Ray Liotta as Pike and Gary Sinise as McCoy. I'd be happy with an unknown cast, too. I'm just glad the old girl is getting a second wind.
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