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You guys are crazy....
by Merlox
Jan 24th, 2007
11:35:03 AM
Mike Deodato is terrible...
Dag, I'd like to know the Reed reasoning
by chrth
Jan 24th, 2007
11:40:47 AM
Since I'm not reading the comics.

I enjoyed New Universe back when it came out ... and now I suddenly feel very, very old ... but I could tell it wasn't going to survive so I gave up pretty quick on it (I was too young to notice that irony)

Agents of Atlas didn't do too well?
by johncage
Jan 24th, 2007
12:00:27 PM
I mean, you hear books aren't selling too well, but I'd hope AoA'll get a TPB. It was a really fun read and excellent use of Marvel's pre-FF characters and history. Just a really fun and solid title. I bought all the issues and I'd probably still get the collected editon.
Reed's motives are shown in Civil War #2
by Reelheed
Jan 24th, 2007
12:02:30 PM
During the chat w sue. anywho AoA was totally kick ass and, chrth, you're not alone mate. the original New Universe was very entertaining... if only for a while.
Mein Gott!
by Mr Incredible
Jan 24th, 2007
12:05:04 PM
If I didn't have a reason to be cynical about the state of comics these days, looking at these reviews would give me plenty of them. One or two diamonds in the big pile of manure called Marvel and DC. Maybe they should read some of their reprints (Essentails and Archives), get books out on time, and people wouldn't feel jaded and ripped-off half the time.
Why Agents of Atlas didn't do well -- Squashua
by chrth
Jan 24th, 2007
12:10:00 PM
His whole "Nextwave is for people too stupid to read Agents of Atlas" marketing campaign didn't work, and probably turned off a lot of Nextwave fans who otherwise would've been willing to give AOA a shot.

It's never worked for Apple, I don't know why he thought it would work for AOA.

Bug..
by Thalya
Jan 24th, 2007
12:17:20 PM
I agree with you about the DC overkill, but you've got a bit of your info mixed up. Each of the Helmet of Fate oneshots is by a different writer/artist team, and judging by a touch of narration Willingham adds at the end, they're doing a revamp of Dr. Fate. They're pulling an aspect of each of the main characters in the oneshots and adding it to the overall Dr. Fate, in this case 'Tec Chimp's understanding of human nature. You have to buy each of them to see what they contribute to the end product (meh). At least DC had the good sense to do a Zauriel book. Now here's hoping it sells well enough to encourage a miniseries then ongoing!
Chrth, Nextwave readers aren't stupid...
by Squashua
Jan 24th, 2007
12:27:13 PM
...they're LAZY compared to AoA readers. 8^D
'Bout fucking time!
by nofate
Jan 24th, 2007
12:27:38 PM
The comics section had been reduced to movie news, which unless is an exclusive pic of how IM's armor is going to look on the movie, I could care less. I'll be back later to berate your reviews. Carry on.
Bug, mi amigo…
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
12:33:59 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I've been bored to death with the Grotesk storyline in Batman. I started tuning out when 'Johnny Karaoke' in the second issue appeared. Meh. Dini's new ish of Detective was its usual greatness.

Cog Awards people! ** http://tinyurl.com/y3me75 **

I agree with Squash about Frontline easily being better than the main series and mostly all enjoyable.

I have to search for Zombies vs. Robots #1 because my shop sold out, but I picked up the second issue. That Chris Ryall is pretty awesome.

Mouse Guard and Criminal this week? I think so.

Bless Dwayne McDuffie.
How about discussing Power Girl's rack size?
by Mr Incredible
Jan 24th, 2007
12:38:06 PM
It would be more interesting than Marvel/DC's Infinite War and Civil Crisis combined: http://tinyurl.com/cdq7k
how come youse guys never pimp Girls?
by taintyourwagon
Jan 24th, 2007
12:44:11 PM
I probably buy 15 books a month, and Girls is the finest one by far. It actually gets better issue after issue, and the last one(21) was super great(hah Nancy, good luck with that.) Of course I understand the marvel and dc pimpin, and I like books from them both, but what the fuck ever happened to a story that ended? I've been readin civil war stuff and read 12 52's and infinite crisis, and all I can think is enough. Anyone remember when x-men crossovers involved 10 different books a month? I sure do, and it's the reason I stopped buying books for like 10 years. If these bozos at the big boys don't check themselves, their popularity will just be crippled by all the different mini's that have something to do with the EVENT that is going on. Didn't they learn anything from variant chromium covers and all that jazz? That said, I bet WWH will be pretty badass. Great, everything I just said is worthless. Shit. Anyways, read Girls, it's good stuff.
I was writing a review about Girls once...
by Squashua
Jan 24th, 2007
12:48:20 PM
and never got around to finishing it.

Sort of a blue-balls feeling. Like the comic.

There, that good for you?
I'll trade wait on this new Thunderbolts
by rev_skarekroe
Jan 24th, 2007
12:52:17 PM
But I am interested in reading it.
so..
by taintyourwagon
Jan 24th, 2007
01:01:52 PM
blue balls like you want to jerk it after readin it, or that it's all a big cocktease? to me it's a pretty tight(ha!) story overall, with not too many loose story lines and resolution to dilemmas. but maybe you prefer your books packaged to sell you 4 or 5 more books to get the whole story. different strokes, I guess.
You are sooo right about Marvel/Osborne
by GreatOne2
Jan 24th, 2007
01:18:02 PM
I stopped collecting comics when Marvel pulled that crap. And on top of that to completely screw with the reasoning behind his kidnapping Gwen and their "children" - may they all burn in hell for that.

Mark my word - Peter/Mary Jane's baby is not dead, but kidnapped by Osborne. Will turn out to be Spider-Girl. That's more of an indication at how pathetic Marvel is than anything else. They'll spring that storyline on us when they're back to scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas again (which is already pretty low).

Bastards.

Frontline is shit and get GL #16 for the drawings of...
by captboulder
Jan 24th, 2007
01:19:30 PM
Black Canary nice ass! I think that was BC, but who know and importantly, who cares! And Zombies in comics is now overdone and needs to stop ASAP!
GIRLS (of the Luna Brothers variety)
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
01:34:01 PM
Umm, where to start. Yeah, nice 'booty' Dinah. Anyway, about GIRLS. I actually reviewed #17 ** http://tinyurl.com/2eedhk ** and up to that point I was still indifferent to the outcome of the series. After hearing that it was ending at #24 I wanted to punch myself in the scrotum for wasting my time with this series. It's gone nowhere and what does anyone know? A giant sperm monster eats women and the towns people can't get out of a bubble. 21 issues summed up right there. Save your money people. Also, I'm so very sorry if GIRLS is the best thing you read out of 15 books a month. Pick up ALL STAR SUPERMAN, WALKING DEAD, MOUSE GUARD, CRIMINAL, WORMWOOD, EXTERMINATORS, etc. for easily better reads.
re: heathen
by taintyourwagon
Jan 24th, 2007
01:45:44 PM
fair enough, I guess. the Lunas say all mysteries will be solved by the end, but if you don't like it that's cool. i never knew there was such hate for Girls. to me the art alone warrants my 3 bucks a month. as for the titles you recommend, i read all star supes(good stuff) and walking dead(kinda draggin lately, although the tortue issue was pretty wicked.) I wanna read Exterminators, but funds aren't good enough to add it yet(maybe when Girls ends). I'm acutally lookin forward to gettin the final Lucifer trade today, though. That wacky devil and his little half angel/half human new God are pretty entertaining.
re: taintyourwagon
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
01:57:48 PM
I'd love to have everything explained by the end, but it all feels so decompressed. I think the majority of the story could have been done in 12 issues easily and made a nice HC. I was actually a big fan of it at first but for the last 7-10 issues it's aggravated me a lot. Issue #3 was a personal favorite. I like how the Lunas bring a different looking style to comics, but after so many issues it starts to get kind of repetitive as far as composition and panel layout in general goes. In my review I think I counted 80 something blurry backgrounds too, which irritates me as a creative 'choice', but at least it keeps the book on schedule I guess. As much as I've groaned about the book I admit that I've made it this far and I might as well finish it you know? It's nowhere near as bad as some of the crap out there, but my disappointment comes from the book missing an opportunity. Whew… that was long. Anyway, sorry to rant. Thanks for the civil conversation as well. For more on our favorite books we have the first two parts of our COG Awards up over here ** http://tinyurl.com/y3me75 ** Thanks. FYI, EXTERMINATORS is craaazy, but in a good way.
the eagle and the mountain
by taintyourwagon
Jan 24th, 2007
02:13:14 PM
lookin through the cog best of list reminded me about that astro city one shot. now that is some kind of great comic.
I'm back baby!
by El Vale
Jan 24th, 2007
02:32:14 PM
And you thought i was dead...
WARREN ELLIS IS GOD
by DOGSOUP
Jan 24th, 2007
02:39:42 PM
At least, that's what he told me...
Vales not dead?
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
02:41:56 PM
Thanks for taking a look taintyourwagon. Much appreciated.

Vale, how goes it my fellow Cog? Are we ever going to talk about Pride of Baghdad? The Escapists? Lost Girls? Huh, huh?
For the entire CogSpace…
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
02:47:35 PM
www.myspace.com/cogsmooches

We also have Best Hero & Best Villain done. We're going to have the rest roll out throughout the week.

So… what do people think of the decoded message in the back of last weeks 52? Hmm…
Vale pulled a Booster!
by Thalya
Jan 24th, 2007
02:47:57 PM
Or was that Animal Man?
taintyourwagon
by Shigeru
Jan 24th, 2007
02:48:56 PM
your username makes me laugh. thnx 4 checking out the cog awards. that shigeru is supersexly
it's because of Shig's beard…
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
02:51:44 PM
supersexly indeed. Hey, the posts are posting in not the correct order. Ahh, I love AICN. Vale would hate that reference Thalya and you know it you saucy minx! Wait… am I allowed to say saucy still? What did Psy say that meant? Pumpkin Spice anyone?
Well Heath
by El Vale
Jan 24th, 2007
02:52:34 PM
It goes well...i've regrouped and started comics work for 2007. I'm writing an OGN for my friend Maria to draw (you remember her), and it's all so very exciting. About the comics you mention, i haven't been able to find The Escapists #3 and it's pissing me off. Other comics i can't find, The finales to the latest Y and Punisher storylines. The FINALES dude! Does that seem bloody fair to you? I didn't think so. Pride Of Baghdad: What's your take on it? Thematically i mean. You know, i saw Children of Men last night and i can't shake it out of my head. It really affected me, i have to say...how this is all connected to PoB is anyone's guess at this point, tho'. Lastly, Lost Girls: Talk to me, sir. Be specific.
Veronica the Last Man
by Squashua
Jan 24th, 2007
02:56:56 PM
Saw Veronica Mars last night and I was half-hoping the guy had named the stolen capuchin "Ampersand". That would have been cool.
dear nerds
by Shigeru
Jan 24th, 2007
02:57:31 PM
52 sucks balls. it could be my arm talking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E lbow-joint
Hello people of Earth
by El Vale
Jan 24th, 2007
02:58:41 PM
Thal, you saucy little minx, i didn't get your refference (frowny face) but i'm guessing it's totally well-meaning and even kinda sexy. How do you do paragraph breaks again?
pride of baghdad
by Shigeru
Jan 24th, 2007
03:08:22 PM
gorgeous, sad, touching, but way too farking short!!!
DC just cancelled "The Boys"
by Squashua
Jan 24th, 2007
03:13:24 PM
And other than a seemingly very slow start, the only reason I can think of would be "due to extremity".
WHAT?!
by El Vale
Jan 24th, 2007
03:19:05 PM
Fuck, i liked The Boys! It was fucked up and entertaining and i thought it'd be around for a very long time.
Reed Richard's motivation
by tony5000
Jan 24th, 2007
03:25:52 PM
Reed explained his reason for supporting registration to Ben Urich in Frontline #3. It was much along the same lines as he explained it to The Thinker. Pretty much in line with his character. I liked how Urich came back at him with the baseball analogy.
boys done?
by taintyourwagon
Jan 24th, 2007
03:32:10 PM
shitty. this was shaping up to be one hell of a jacked up book, but I guess we never will see the Butcher v. Homelander to the death. sux.
hee..
by Thalya
Jan 24th, 2007
03:34:30 PM
And if I'm not saucy, can I be tart? A lil pumpkin spice tart..

And Vale, type the following without spaces for paragraph breaks: < B R >

(and it doesn't have to be capitalized)
NORMAN OSBOURN IS ALIVE????
by BilboRing
Jan 24th, 2007
03:41:25 PM
I missed the past 6 years or so of Spider-Man. The Clone Saga killed it for me. But I just bought back issues from #500 to present. When did Osbourn come back from the dead? That fucking sucks. Is Kraven still dead? I hope so. Norm Osbourn was much creepier and cooler knowing he died. I am pretty pissed off that he was brought back. I was also pissed to hear Aunt May was brought back to via kidnapping. Pretty stupid shit.
Squash, Vale, Reed…
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
03:51:10 PM
That would have been great if he was named Ampersand! Poor Oscar or #25 lab monkey.

The cancelled THE BOYS?!?! Fuggin A. What Vale said. (Vale: < b r > minus the spaces of course) As for Pride of Baghdad, I like how it relates thematically to the events that surround it the way it did. Utterly crushing and hard to take in, especially since there's a feeling of hope and an animated charm that's even more apparent because you have lions talking to turtles on river beds and what not. When it gets down to it though it doesn't hold back. It shows how humans and our society treat life and it's fucking scary, it's depressing and it does not bode well. Maybe that's the same connection you made to Children of Men? Which is such a good and powerful movie. I completely agree. Whenever I get around to making my Best Movies list of 06 it'll be in the top three for sure. Lost Girls. Well, I've only read the first book and I haven't read the others yet because it kind of disturbed me. I love what Moore does with the medium. I love how he experiments with the types of stories and even what he does within the page panels. It's all very methodical and you can tell a master of the craft is working, but it just offset me a little too much I guess. I knew exactly what I was getting into and everything, but right now I'm not blown away, but I can't make a final decision until I read the other two books. Dude, I'll find you The Escapists #3 (not my copy!!!) and send it to you and if I can't I just happen to have a scanner and #3 right next to my desk.

Didn't Reed tell some story about his Uncle and blah, blah… Ham-Fisted I say!
The Boys
by Squashua
Jan 24th, 2007
04:16:08 PM
It's creator-owned series, so it might end up like PAD's Fallen Angel if someone else picks it up.

Unfortuantely, this means that none of the Boys will be planting their foot in Apollo's @$$ anytime soon.
yeah, but…
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
04:29:32 PM
Robertson is exclusive to DC for now though. I hope the title finds a home someplace. I say IDW. Why? Great production values.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
by IndustryKiller!
Jan 24th, 2007
05:04:58 PM
Civil War, without being overly grandiose or exagerrating, is the worst crossover event in the entire history of Marvel comics. Written by hacks who clearly would rather be writing big budget movies (as if that is anything special on the ugly Hollywood landscape) than writing comic books. So narcissistic in their quest to "leave their stamp on the characters" that they change them utterly and fundamentally without even attempting a reason for it, leaving other less involved writers to clean up this unmitigated mess. Millar, Bendis, Strasinski and anyone else involved in this shitstorm should just know how awful they are before they start getting smug about their blockbuster selling story. It's fine that you guys did it, well it isn't but whatever, what isn't fine that you brag about it or have any delusions that you have created something good or anywhere near the realm of art. you've sold out for the sake of glamour and there is nothing more pathetic you can do.
Where is John Stewart?
by The Heathen
Jan 24th, 2007
05:44:31 PM
Not the Daily Show one, but the Green Lantern one?
Great bunch of reviews.
by dregmobile
Jan 24th, 2007
05:57:12 PM
Thalya, since you just alerted me to the fact that you need to buy all of these Fate lead-in's to understand DR. FATE #1, I am now deciding NOT to get this new series, despite my love for the character. The chimp thing was bad enough. I actually showed my girlfriend an ad for the chimp issue and used it as an example of how bad DC comics are these days. To read a review of how bad that issue is just confirms that for me. However, I don't buy a lot of comics, so I may not understand the big picture like the rest of you die-hards (die hard comic fans that is ... it's a compliment).

I really hope AoA gets a trade. I was late on that one and regret it.
New Universal...
by loodabagel
Jan 24th, 2007
07:56:40 PM
Do I like it? Yes.
RE:John Stewart.
by captboulder
Jan 24th, 2007
10:18:55 PM
Didn't we see him last in an issue of 52? He currently in the JLA Classfied comics, but yeah, where is the guy?
CRAZY
by hst666
Jan 25th, 2007
12:44:14 AM
Prof. Challenger - Thanks for mentioning this magazine, eben if it was a throwaway line. I keep Marvel will release some collected form of this magazine eventually. I may not like it as much now, but it was funnier than Mad back in the late 70's and early 80s when I was reading it.
Reed and the end of everything
by Jinxo
Jan 25th, 2007
05:32:09 AM
The unregistered heroes might not have anything directly to do with the end of humanity. The key if him referencing the Foundation books. The starting character in the Foundation books charts out future history for centuries and then figures out how to nudge things at certain points in history to make things go better. In the books, mankind will fall into a dark age no matter what. But this guy figures out how to set up events so that the dark age will be shorter. And sometimes the cause and effect isn't direct. Maybe something has to happen this year to cause a chain reaction of events that will pay off waaay down the road. So unregistered heroes might not cause the end of the world. It might be that down the road we will need an organized government controlled army of heroes. Maybe we need that to save the world. Or maybe the point is that registration will fail and the fallout from that failure is for some reason necessary. It's like a huge wicked version of that Mousetrap game. The boot kicking the marble isn't the point but only a small piece in the bigger puzzle. I'm coming away with the idea of some dark logic at play. Like the idea that Hiroshima in some way was needed so the world would check itself and say, "Whoah, never again." Without it, maybe when nukes would have finally been used it might have been in a bigger uglier scenario. From what the Thinker says it sounds to me like maybe Reed is planning to purposely steer the world to some ugly events in the name of stopping the larger bad. "Hey everyone, sorry about the carnage and suffering but trust me, long term, it's for the best."
Reed's still acting out of character.
by stones_throw
Jan 25th, 2007
06:50:25 AM
The Fantastic Four would always find a way to win by doing things the right way (like Sue said). Reed's an idealist. Would he make a deal with Doctor Doom if calculations showed Doom would kill less people that way? No - he'd find a way to stop Doom without any people dying. He's a genius!

Actually, the way Marvel's going at the present, I would not be at all surprised to see the FF bargaining with Doom in the near future.
Happy belated birthday to Mr. Ernest Borgnine
by Borgnine JR
Jan 25th, 2007
07:54:42 AM
It was yesterday!
Butcher to his bulldog Terror: "Fuck DC Execs. Hard."
by SpyGuy
Jan 25th, 2007
08:29:34 AM
I found out about THE BOYS getting axed last night on Newsarama and I'm pretty pissed off about it. Sales were steadily climbing, so the only reason DC cancelled it before releasing the first trade paperback and issues #7-10 is because someone high up got their panties in a twist. It's Mark Millar and THE AUTHORITY all over again.
Reed preventing future disasters…
by The Heathen
Jan 25th, 2007
09:14:07 AM
… by causing current ones might be somewhat possible, but if he was in character he would hold a big meeting, maybe a press conference afterwards and explain to the Avengers, X-Men, and of course the ever apparent SHIELD and say, "Hey, bad stuff is going to happen, I can't find a way around it. If we can't change it, then we have hard times that are unfortunately necessary for our future survival. So Tony, Stephen, Bruce, Charles - I need your help. I need all of your help." [wide angle, 1/2 page panel of the gathered heroes] -- That is what he would have done. He wouldn't be keeping this to himself if this is in fact what's happening, which I'm pretty sure isn't the case. I've given up on this event after the first issue. It's horrible. I hate what it's doing to these characters. This is coming from someone who loves the Marvel Universe. I'm not allied with just one company and when you think of that, how fucking retarded is that really? It's like saying I only like Warner Brothers movies and no other movie from any other studio. I've read a lot of bad series all the way through (HoM) but I haven't even bothered with Civil War #6. That's saying something and it's not very good for Marvel… and that's why you should check out the Cog Awards for BEST HERO and BEST VILLAIN * http://tinyurl.com/37orpq *
definately for the best villain awards...
by blackthought
Jan 25th, 2007
09:26:13 AM
if not, come for shig's beard and all the good looking folk.
Si, si...
by loodabagel
Jan 25th, 2007
09:51:23 AM
But when may our ever-demanding public see those best OGN awards?
RE:John Stewart pt2.
by captboulder
Jan 25th, 2007
09:56:47 AM
He also undercover as Hunger Dog, I think? I think the next issue of GL#17 we'll find out more to that and Cowgirl being the new Star Sapphire?
ADVICE: Do *NOT* buy CIVIL WAR: THE RETURN
by Squashua
Jan 25th, 2007
10:09:16 AM
Look, the @$$holes acknowledge that this column arrives a bit later than the comics, and though we're fine with that, I need to jump the gun and let you know that you ***SHOULD NOT*** buy Civil War: The Return.

I'll explain in detail in the next review column, and it has nothing to do with the subject matter, but rather with the LACK of subject matter.

Just figured I'd save you a few bucks in the long run.
Squashua and cooky's posts cracked me up!
by The Heathen
Jan 25th, 2007
10:34:55 AM
Thanks for the re: captboulder. I guess time will tell.
Civil War: The Return (HUGE SPOILER).
by captboulder
Jan 25th, 2007
12:19:27 PM
Squashua is right DO NOT BUY IT. I hope the SPOILER WARNING helps. So DON NOT BUY IT unless you like The Sentry and Capt Marvel(sp?). Its the Captain that returns and the art pretty much stinks! Read Civil War: The Return to pondered why The Sentry is pondering. It reeks of Marvel manipulation of the civil war brand to its faithful readers.
"Hunger Dog"?
by Shigeru
Jan 25th, 2007
12:55:30 PM
are we serious here?
John Stewart
by Squashua
Jan 25th, 2007
12:57:25 PM
Yes, the current suspicion is that the bounty hunter known as "Hunger Dog" is John in disguise.
oh, I understood.
by Shigeru
Jan 25th, 2007
01:04:34 PM
And it makes me truly, very happy to know that I do not read a comic with a bounty hunter character named "Hunger Dog". Seriously, that's fuckin hilarious...
Just a small plug...
by Thalya
Jan 25th, 2007
01:29:07 PM
Go here if you like evil geniuses and want to sing their praises to the world:

http://groups.myspace.com/EGAD Society
Shiggy-Pop
by Squashua
Jan 25th, 2007
02:56:35 PM
Dude, they're ALIENS. Aliens don't know from dated cultures.
...
by blackthought
Jan 25th, 2007
04:45:53 PM
oh
Shig, the GL comics has been owning, dude!
by captboulder
Jan 25th, 2007
04:46:52 PM
It has. U won't be wasting your money on it, thats for sure. And remember there always Dinah and her ass for added value. Not that remembering her name is all that important, its whats on the outside that counts. LOL I'm so very sexist, but I do recommend giving the GL series a chance, though.
Reed knows about the future...
by chrth
Jan 25th, 2007
06:18:39 PM
because he read Kingdom Come.
GL and GL Corps are both very solid reads.
by The Heathen
Jan 25th, 2007
06:31:52 PM
Don't overlook the Corps ongoing, it's solid every month.

I admit to knowing nothing about Hunger Dog. Hmm. 52 is overall worth it I think though. There's way more good than bad in the series thus far.

Final issue of the first Mouse Guard series kicks ass. Great read with plenty of action, but you already knew that.

T, who is the 4th horseman?

SILENT WAR #1 sold out in one day because people looked at it and saw Frazer Irving's art and smartly kept it. What they need to do is get the first part of the story from SON OF M.
very glad
by blackthought
Jan 25th, 2007
07:55:56 PM
come june there is more mouse guard...sweeeeeeeet.
Fucking hell
by El Vale
Jan 25th, 2007
09:24:14 PM
I fell asleep with my contacts on and now my eyes are all sucky and non-excellent.

So Heath and stuff, what do you think Pride means? Like overall, what does it all mean? Is it a metaphor for...anythng? I guess i didn't get it at all, or read it on one level only.

And what is it about Lost Girls that disturbs you, sir?
okay, okay...
by Shigeru
Jan 26th, 2007
08:55:08 AM
I get it, GL/Corps is cool. Whatev. DC had me with Infinite Crisis, but afterwards lost me. OYL sucked, and after spending $20 on the first 8 issues of 52, and liking about 20 pages total... well that's not what I'd call a great investment. Didn't like the JLA revamp, didn't like the JSA revamp...
so yeah, maybe I'll check out the trades eventually.

Vale, re: Pride. It was all there, some at the surface... Lions talking about different forms freedom/repression can take, whether freedom can truly be given... and how do you "give" someone freedom?
though fairly deep, it all seemed rushed to me. I like my hardcover graphic novels to take their time...
oh, and
by Shigeru
Jan 26th, 2007
08:58:04 AM
I'm pretty sure I don't like "Shiggy-Pop". I do like Iggy Pop.
4th Horseman
by Squashua
Jan 26th, 2007
09:08:26 AM
It's either Skeets or Tawky Crawky, but don't count out Everyman.
4th Horseman...
by loodabagel
Jan 26th, 2007
09:46:09 AM

Didn't you see my predictions? The fourth horseman is clearly Aladdin Sane.

Now, I haven't really gotten the chance to say what I've wanted to in the past few days, soI'd like to get it out about now...

New Universal-I think it's a pretty good comic, but it's got some of the slowestpacing I've seen. In the span of two issues, Starbrand has walked 30 feet. I wasn't sure he was going to make it out of the building. I want some stuff to start happening now! I'm sticking with it, though. I see some gold on the horizon.

I am no longer going to read JSA. It doesn't make much sense and I just don't think Midas-touch nazis with handle-bar moustaches are all that intimidating.

I'd call Pride of Baghdad woefully short, but not rushed. All of the double page spreads took away a little too much for me.

Ultimate Spider-man went from really good to just plain stupid in the past two issues. Doc Ock's new powers were so very stupid... Arghh! I also really hated the double page spread of Spider-man and woman punching him in the face.

One new comic I am really enjoying is Iron Fist. The confusion from the end of last issue has all cleared up, and I am definitely enjoying it now. I would like to offer a congratulations to Mr. Brubaker for finally winning me over.

And is it new school Captain Marvel (alive) or Old School Captain Marvel (dead) who returns? Civil War 7-The Sentry uses his magically ridiculous powers to create a new Marvel Universe and throw the original into the sun.

Is Silent War going to be another crazy super event? I'm a bit of an Inhumans fan. (Okay, I really like the Paul Jenkins series. I've never read anything else.) How ling will this series last? I might check it out in trade if it's any good.

Adios, Muchachos!

Silent War and Pride among other things…
by The Heathen
Jan 26th, 2007
01:12:39 PM
Silent War isn't a 'BIG EVENT' thing, it's just a six issue miniseries written by David Hine and drawn by Frazer Irving. It does tie directly into Son of M, but you don't have to read that (although you should because it's awesome) to get what's going on. The first page is one of those nifty re-caps that explains everything. Son of M does tie-in to HoM, but we all know that you're better off not reading that one. I think what's going on in Silent War would have been yet another story that could have been far superior and simplistic that Civil War or HoM.

Shig, that's the one thing that bothered me about Pride of Baghdad. I'm so glad you said something because I thought I was the only one until now. It's strange how the book still manages to be effective and deep, but it is definitely rushed. What's interesting about that though is that I think it works in some ways. I think the bluntness and the quickness of everything that happened is how life can be. Vale, refer to what Shig said basically, "Freedom can't be given." or "life's a bitch and then you die." Whatever suits you fancy.

What disturbs me so far about Lost Girls is specifically the last story (or next to last - not sure) where the girl 'Alice' is drugged and raped and the one with Peter Pan taking advantage of a much younger than him 'Wendy' while her brothers jack each other off incestuously also gave me the creeps. I get that it's part of the story and I'm not hating it, but that's not my cup of tea. As for the rest of it I guess I wanted a little more than just porn with metaphors and motifs of the acts.

Shig, I think there was some good OYL stuff, specifically the Superman books, then Green Lantern, Batman and Teen Titans. Fug Shadowpact.

Evil Skeets could be the 4th. Maybe he's not even Skeets, but just taking his form?
Pride too short
by El Vale
Jan 26th, 2007
01:22:07 PM
It be true. Blankets (i was thinking about Blankets yesterday) was a short read too but somehow it managed to feel a lot more complex and layered...Pride, not so much. I might even call it overrated just to feel like one of those hipsters you keep hearing about. The art was gorgeous tho', wannit?

Looda, are you crazy? I mean sure, newuniversal is decompressed like every other book Ellis writes these days, but it's certainly not as bad as you make it out to be. In two issues Starbrand went from being some dude who falls asleep with his girlfriend in a perfectly romantic setting by the sea (if memory serves) to being um...Starbrand. Guy wakes up, his gf's bbq because of the huge...star like brand, i guess...the aliens left which looks suspiciously like the mark he's sporting on his hand and then the police take him into custody where the girl's father attempts to murder him, so the guy uses his newfound powers to stop the bullets and rip Sheriff whatever's arm to shreds, and then he goes outside and flies upward (great visual btw). All this while also focusing on 3 or so other characters. You sir, must have skipped some pages or something, cause wow. Also, did you notice who's playing Starbrand and that vengeance guy? Sawyer (from Lost) and Bruce Willis.

Oh yes.
Speaking of Blankets…
by The Heathen
Jan 26th, 2007
01:41:29 PM
I wanted to read it while it was cold, so I better do it this next week, because that's likely to be as cold as it gets here in FL. Isn't it 400 pages too? Maybe it just flows well huh? Pride was surely gorgeous to look at. That's a fact. I can see where you're coming from on it Vale. I like it and I think it's very good, but when I finished it, it wasn't what I expected either.
Lost Girls
by El Vale
Jan 26th, 2007
01:43:10 PM
Oh yeah, those parts are obviously kinda creepy, i guess. I think i'm disgusting and twisted since those parts didn't bother me at all. In fact, they rang pretty true to me. Plus, the whole point is these kids are too innocent and ignorant to realize what they're doing might be wrong, like jacking off your brother. But is it wrong? Pubescent boys and girls discovering their sexuality with nary a hint of social stigma to be seen. It's completely innocent sex and as Moore explores it, it's...well, kinda beautiful. And that's how i'd describe the book, actually: A beautiful porn book. Which is what Moore and Gebbie set out to do from the start...so don't make the same mistake Dave F made, cause it can be detrimental to your reading experience, young man.
^^^^
by Shigeru
Jan 26th, 2007
02:44:19 PM
highly subjective, young man.
"blankets was a short read"
by Shigeru
Jan 26th, 2007
02:52:11 PM
are you on crack? colombian supremo? Blankets was a *smooth* read. It flowed extremely well. But it was like 400 pages. I savored it so it wasn't short for me. Plus I take a longer time reading highly personal stories.

speaking of highly personal stories: I do NOT reccomend Jefferey Brown. I bought...shit I forgot the name of it but it sucked balls. It's like the polar opposite of Liz Prince. wtf.
re: Vale and something I do NOT recommend
by The Heathen
Jan 26th, 2007
03:35:43 PM
It may be innocent exploration of sex and what not, but it doesn't mean it isn't disturbing, especially to me and I think I'm fairly open minded. It is beautiful to a degree and I think I can see what you're saying or where you're coming from, but most of these acts are just sex, not love right? I mean a guy jacks off on a silver slipper because he has a foot fetish is more creepy than beautiful to me (but not as much as Wendy's brothers giving each other a hand). Love making is what is truly beautiful in that whole process not just random sex scenes. A beautiful porn book is accurate though. I haven't read Dave_F's review of it yet, but I remember you weren't thrilled with it to say the least.

I do NOT recommend Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic. Super personal autobiography of sorts from writer/artist Alison Bechdel. Apparently I'm in the minority on this one, but I found it so effin' dreadful and depressing. Not because of just the subject matter (even though it's about a girl who lives in a funeral home run by her cold loving gay father who sleeps with young boys and loves ugly antiques more than his wife and children and how she later becomes a lesbian, etc., etc.), but because of how the tone of it is and how repetitive and melancholy the entire read is. I hate to rag on it because it's an indy book and stuff, but… arghh, I hated it.
You don't have to tell ME, Psy.
by Squashua
Jan 26th, 2007
04:18:08 PM
I already know. But thanks for pointing it out to others. :-) Though this is my true comics home, I didn't feel the need to oversaturate (read: pollute) it with too many of my insane ramblings. That's what those other places are for. Thanks for the linkage.
Well, so much for the jests...
by loodabagel
Jan 26th, 2007
04:49:06 PM
I was joking about the "walks 30 feet thing." Not a very good one, I guess. I do like NewUniversal.
On A Fun Home... I am sick of this book. Yes, I know it's pretty concieted of me, but I just get angry when all of these mainstream publications take note of it and call it "the best comic of the year" because what the hell else did they read? Civil War? Bleagh! A Fun Home, even though I haven't even read it. reeks of being a comic book Crash.
Okay, that was mean. I will no longer compare possibly deserving stuff to Crash.
But fo r a good autobiographical comic, you should read The Quitter...
Psy
by Squashua
Jan 26th, 2007
04:52:48 PM
I'm under the assumption you also saw this earlier: http://tinyurl.com/yqm2xt
Thunderbolts wishes it were Suicide Squad
by Homer Sexual
Jan 26th, 2007
05:14:33 PM
Yeah, it got cancelled, but Ostrander's Suicide Squad is perhaps my all-time favorite team book. However, Norman Osborne is no Amanda Waller, and the "marquee" psycho villains, such as the Joker,were never in SS. Maybe that's why it got cancelled. Loved it, though. And many of its ex-members have enjoyed increased popularity since then (Boomerang, Waller, Deadshot,). Although I still buy more Marvel than DC, Checkmate kicks the ass of Thunderbolts (so far). I love both Ellis and Deodato...but Bullseye and Venom...no mas, please!!!!!
Ultimate X-Men--spoiler, I guess
by Homer Sexual
Jan 26th, 2007
05:20:54 PM
Why does it suck so with Kirkman writing? He does put in some new spins, such as Cable now being future Wolverine. He made Scott and Xavier rivals in love with Jean. He killed off Xavier. He made Nightcrawler "go bad." Yawn! How could so many "big" events be so uninvolving? Nothing in this book has any drama or resonance. It's just characters behaving randomly while shit happens. It appears Kirkman may be unable to write characters. Just plots. Of course, I was a big fan of the BKV run, which many people seem not to have liked. I felt BKV made UXM fresh, and the UXM themselves were different, but relatable and interesting. UXM currently has no "draw" to me. I find it so dull. I enjoyed Kirkman on Marvel Zombies, but will only read one more issue of UXM to give it one last chance, as I really like the concept.
...
by blackthought
Jan 26th, 2007
05:38:22 PM
huh?
Xavier, Scott and Jean...*SPOILER*
by loodabagel
Jan 26th, 2007
05:39:05 PM
Well, at least he died beofre that got really awkward. Man, I had hopes for Ultimate X-Men. I really did. I thought he was almost getting his shit together, but it was not to be. Homer, I have no answer for your question. Why Kirkman must suck so much at Marvel is a mystery that I may never solve (unlike the mystery of Ambush Bug. Way to go, Squasha! Haven't read any 52, but that was still good for a chuckle.)
"Huh?"
by loodabagel
Jan 26th, 2007
07:18:38 PM
You said it, Blackthought.
White Event
by magsweeto
Jan 28th, 2007
04:01:33 PM
I loved the New Universe. It may read as dated by today's standards, but it prefigured DCU and MU "event" crossovers (Secret Wars and Infinite Earths were a little more self contained) and did a better job at it as well (there were fewer titles and it was easier to avoid the complete clusterf*ck storytelling of CW and IC,OYL,52,etc...etc...) The Big 2 need to take a breather with the "events" and get back to establishing heroes and rogue galleries, the kind of thing that makes "events" possible in the first place.
Civil War: The Return - Best Comic of 2007?
by dregmobile
Jan 28th, 2007
04:55:55 PM
Hmmmm .. probably won't win that award. I wish these warnings had arrived sooner. What a waste of money and time. I'm new to Marvel and have no idea who Captain Marvel is. All I could think was how stupid it was having two characters in DC and Marvel universe's sharing the same name. It would probably look nice when I burn it, though. Despite this insult of a book, I'm still looking forward to Civil War 7.

Mystery in Space #5 and Mouse Guard #6 kicked all kinds of ass. MiS is getting better and better (especially Starlin's own pencils) and MG ended on a beautiful note. Peterson really turned it on in this issue. I look forward to the NEXT MG series due in July (+ the hardcover in April).

Okay, now everyone get back to what you were discussing ...
dreg!
by Thalya
Jan 28th, 2007
09:51:09 PM
No, wait! MiS!!! Tyrone would pwn Krypto in a fight, wouldn't he? Him and his lil sidekick TD-3! And Shane Davis just upped his game with all the action going on. And you're right, Starlin's been rocking with everything he's been doing.
TD-3
by dregmobile
Jan 28th, 2007
10:53:21 PM
How cut was he? I only just finished the issue this morning and had to laugh at the splash page of Tyrone and the cute little teddy bear-bot. Yeah, Krypto would be pretty hard pressed against Tyrone. And they finally mastered him visually in this issue.
TD-3?
by loodabagel
Jan 29th, 2007
09:17:11 AM
Any relation to R2-D2?
Nope. He's a drumset according to google...
by loodabagel
Jan 29th, 2007
09:22:33 AM
And I don't know what kind of person uses a drumset as a sidekick.
Stuart Immomen is the new Ultimate Spider-man artist...
by loodabagel
Jan 29th, 2007
10:08:38 AM
I'm relieved that it's not Mark Brooks. I look forward to seeing some pretty explosions and car chases from him. But will he fit them into a comic like USM? Seriously, the guy's the best explosion artist I've ever seen.
...
by blackthought
Jan 29th, 2007
12:45:27 PM
boom!
Having a drumset as a sidekick ...
by dregmobile
Jan 29th, 2007
04:27:26 PM
is not such a bad idea ...
Not a bad idea at all
by El Vale
Jan 29th, 2007
10:40:24 PM
In fact, i love it.
Spider-Man and Deadpool with drumset sidekicks
by Squashua
Jan 30th, 2007
08:35:59 AM
would never be without a much-needed rimshot.

Neither would Northstar for that matter. :-)
Oh!!!!
by loodabagel
Jan 30th, 2007
09:13:03 AM
Dang. Northstar gay jokes? Suck it, Winick!
Does anyone watch Heroes anymore?
by loodabagel
Jan 30th, 2007
09:16:38 AM
I got bored after the first arc.
Speaking of Heroes and SUCK...
by Squashua
Jan 30th, 2007
12:05:29 PM
...those two tastes went together last night for awful.

Bad filler episode, bad!
*Turtle pops out of shell*
by The Heathen
Jan 30th, 2007
12:15:38 PM
"Who said what about STUDIO 60?!?!? ARGGGHH!!!!!!"

I'm still watching Heroes. I think it's still moving along just fine. It's only been back two weeks from its break though. The only thing that bugs me about Heroes is the marketing like with."Save the cheerleader, save the world." And now it's, "Our you on the list?" then they repeat that about five hundred times. Hiro is awesome. Although 24 > Heroes ≤ Lost.
hmm...
by blackthought
Jan 30th, 2007
12:28:11 PM
the wire over all of those.
Anyone reading Powers?
by El Vale
Jan 30th, 2007
12:49:50 PM
Thing is fantastic.
Plz eggnore me spling…
by The Heathen
Jan 30th, 2007
01:32:30 PM
poup.
30 Rock is not sucky…
by The Heathen
Jan 30th, 2007
01:35:29 PM
Tracy Morgan/Jordan is the tits on that. Oh yeah, and Alec Baldwin ain't exactly bad either. Thursdays on NBC can't be beat son!
This Is Why You Guys Gotta Watch My Show THE 3 TURDS.
by Buzz Maverik
Jan 30th, 2007
02:12:09 PM
On tonight's episode, T.R. Knight guests as the guy Eye Eye committed his hate crime against. Eye Eye is driven crazy because he thinks that his half-way house roommates, Melvin and Miker, prefer R.T.'s company to his own. It turns out, they aren't really hanging out at all...they are just giving their depositions to help return Eye Eye to prison!
THE 3 TURDS
by Squashua
Jan 30th, 2007
02:43:16 PM
Do they advance Leslie's backalley dealings subplot?
Well
by El Vale
Jan 30th, 2007
04:28:40 PM
Farts are pretty funny.
Hey, remember comics?
by El Vale
Jan 30th, 2007
04:29:40 PM
Let's talk about those for a while.
Comics, eh?
by loodabagel
Jan 30th, 2007
08:47:01 PM
Well, I saw that latest issue of Ultimate X-Men today and I said "Screw you, dude. UXM is supposed to be not only good, but hella cool. UXM, you are disgracing the Ultimate line and I will not talk to you until you get your shit together." UXM replied with a grunt because UXM is fat and lazy. As for TV, I yearn for those calssic "3 Turds" episodes. The current season is too much Isiah, not enough Mel.
Spider-Man: Reign...
by loodabagel
Jan 30th, 2007
09:07:47 PM
It looks good and I will buy the trade and I think it looks good!
Nuke Me With The New!
by Marco_Xavier
Jan 30th, 2007
10:51:24 PM
Yeah, I said it. Old school in the house. In defense of the New Universe, it was a great concept hobbled by a repeatedly savaged budget (not Shooter's doing) and the editorial incompetence of Tom DeFalco (partly Shooter's fault.) It's obvious in retrospect that Shooter laid the groundwork for the Valiant Universe with the New U, but his use of inexpensive freelancers and moonlighting editors killed the line's potential. Valiant redeemed him, at least for a time, and some of the NEW U titles were solid. I immediately fell in love with Marc Hazzard: Merc. This was some of Peter David's first writing, well complimented by Gray Morrow's art and Zeck covers. Distribution got spotty early on, and I didn't find the latter issues until years later. Shame none of the creative team remained by that point. I bought Justice new off the rack for the first two issues. I liked the premise, but I think Vinnie Colletta was inking the inappropriately lame art. I recall picking up a gorgeously grotesque Keith Giffen fill-in issue, but again lost interest when Peter David & Lee Weeks came on to pull the old "everything you know is wrong" rejigger. I followed Psi-Force until I realized, possibly first the first time, that I was buying the book solely for the art. Which meant I still owned all of Mark Texeira's issues. Fabian Nicieza and (if I recall correctly) Ron Lim got their breaks in the minor-major league late in the title's run, and did good work. I bought a couple issues of Kickers, Inc. new midway through the first year. They read better than I expected, but the shamus meets sports-theme left me cold. I picked-up a couple or three Spitfire & the Troubleshooters back in the day. The phrase "meh" hadn't been coined yet. I bought a couple issues of Nightmask because I loved the Sandy Plunkett covers. Notice a pattern emerging here? The heroic Freddy Krueger/Dreamscape concept and costume were sound, but the art and writing were dull. The pre-Bob Hall "Shadowman" had a similar vibe. The second best written and most consistant book was D.P.7, a modernization of the classic X-Men/Doom Patrol template. Mark Gruenwald and Paul Ryan stuck with it the whole three years (which I followed off and on,) and I'd say it was up there with their Squadron Supreme work. Valiant's "Harbinger" was lifted directly from this book. I avoided Star Brand because it looked too much like a Superman rip-off. Thanks to my love of John Romita Jr's artwork, I picked up the entire first year some time later out of quarter bins. The Shooter issues were an excellent examination of what happens when a guy gets the power of a god. He continues to be a self-absorbed jerk, maintaing a fuck buddy while dating a single mother who's young son gets brainwashed to kill Starbrand. If that sounds like Shooter channeling the deconstructionist tendencies of Moore and Miller, you're hearing's alright. Highly recommended, but make sure to stop prior to Byrne's awful pseudo-sci-fi run. Elements of this title and Justice turned up again in "Solar: Man of the Atom." So while I'll admit the New Universe never set the world on fire, having read the first issue of Warren Ellis' reboot, I can safely say his take isn't superior to 170+ comics produced by fine creators like Danny Fingeroth, Tom DeFalco, and um... okay, the first two issues are probably better than at least a third of those comics, and as many as half. I just can't abide overreaching by saying ALL of them...
Starbrand
by Squashua
Jan 31st, 2007
08:23:05 AM
You said it man; it looked EXACTLY like a Superman rip. BTW, A&E is doing "3 Days of THE 3 TURDS" starting on January 18th, to celebrate the Chinese New Year. All episodes back to back.
re: Spider-Man: Reign
by The Heathen
Jan 31st, 2007
08:31:14 AM
wasn't feeling the first issue. Too expensive to invest in if I'm wary about the content. I'll wait for some more word of mouth.
Huzzah for Marco Xavier!
by loodabagel
Jan 31st, 2007
08:58:23 AM
I had no idea so many words could even be written about the New Universe.
Marco_Xavier
by Shigeru
Jan 31st, 2007
09:33:35 AM
I agree, that was a lot of words.
Hey there Shiggy Pop...
by loodabagel
Jan 31st, 2007
09:50:21 AM
A friend was showing me his Fantagraphics catalog yesterday, and wanted to know if there was anything good in it. I said "I know somebody who's into Sock-Monkey. I think it's worth a look, but I don't know if it would be your thing." I suggested he play it safe and get Black Hole.
...
by blackthought
Jan 31st, 2007
11:57:52 AM
ghost rider movie...suck or just mildly suck?
F4 II - Suck or just Mildly Suck?
by Squashua
Jan 31st, 2007
12:50:48 PM
...
re: …
by The Heathen
Jan 31st, 2007
01:05:48 PM
Ghost Rider = SUCK

F4 = Mildly Suck… hopefully.
The trailer has me strangely not hating the movie and hoping for the best even though the first was major suckage.
Fantagraphics
by El Vale
Jan 31st, 2007
01:06:38 PM
Those guys publish consistently great stuff, if i remember correctly.
Fuggin 'A'
by The Heathen
Jan 31st, 2007
02:09:36 PM
Geoff Johns and Tony Daniel are leaving Teen Titans after the 'Titans East' storyline. Adam Beechen (Robin) is taking over. This depresses me.
Like Red-Headed Step-Titans
by Squashua
Jan 31st, 2007
02:35:39 PM
After DC crapped on this book by hiring terrible fill-in artists for issue #41, I don't blame Johns in the least for leaving the series early. This was brought on by the powers that be.
My dear Psy-Fi…
by The Heathen
Jan 31st, 2007
06:14:43 PM
'splain to me in detail your hate for Didio, your prick, er, pick for Best Villain of 2006. I mean, I know he's not perfect by any means, but compared to Joey Q and as far as the direction DC is continuing to go (New JLA, JSA, Supes, Detective, GL, Spirit, etc. all kicking ass) I'm really enjoying at least 75%-80% of it all. I like the build up, the clues, the interweaving and connection of it all. IC had it's flaws, but it at least achieved 'some' of what it set out to. When Marvel has a big event book it just seems to happen… and suck… bad… really bad even. Let me know. My curiosity is peaked. And speaking of curiosity. that teaser image from DC has me admittedly excited folks. I know, I know - sue me for enjoying something in comics right?
Dan DiDio's inverted penis...
by loodabagel
Jan 31st, 2007
06:26:25 PM
Possibly. But I know for a fact that Joey Q has been experiencing Bang U Tot at least since The Fantastic Four movie.
In other news Teen Titans=FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it
by El Vale
Jan 31st, 2007
08:14:23 PM
I love how Psy hates Didio cause it makes the Cogs all confused like "Huh? No...nononono, you got it all wrong". An endless source of entertainment for ol' Vale here. I'll say it again, even tho' i know you never listen to me: Tons of good books at Marvel, not magic or even divine intervention. Like for example Brubaker's Daredevil, Captain America and Criminal...not an accident, Quesada knows all about them, i swear; they don't happen in spite of him.
KILLING THIS WEEK'S TALKBACK
by Squashua
Feb 1st, 2007
09:01:13 AM
New Comics Reviews are up. Go here: http://tinyurl.com/2cocuw
don't forget…
by The Heathen
Feb 1st, 2007
09:08:22 AM
Runaways, Astonishing X-Men, Silent War and Uncanny X-Men. I'll say it again, even tho' Vale never listens to me: I know there's plenty of good that comes from Marvel. I give the editorial staff so much shit because I DO care what happens which I believe you've said before that you really don't right? Check out how many things I awarded Marvel for our Cog Awards if you still don't believe me. And when did you start reading Bru's Cap and Daredevil runs?

I didn't say Psy was wrong, but I just want to know his 'why' specifically. If I was asked why I feel the way I do about Joey Q and Axel Alonso the way Psy does about Didio I would say it's because they spin shit worse than politicians (so does Didio) but they usually never follow through with it and if they do it's often weakly executed and characters are bent to fit the story and not vice versa in a continuity cluster fuck of a universe. I just want to know Psy's 'Why'. Is it because of IC? 52? I want to know because I value his opinion. That is all.
Squash…
by The Heathen
Feb 1st, 2007
09:10:45 AM
My dear @$$hole, that's not how you end a tb…

Last.
The companion peice to Reneassance Batman...
by loodabagel
Feb 1st, 2007
09:23:59 AM

God help me, I think I might buy it. Superman in the Aztec empire. Is it worth it?

Last

Is it worth it?
by The Heathen
Feb 1st, 2007
09:29:50 AM
Right now that's the LAST thing I'd buy.

Last.
Eat it, Heathen.
by Squashua
Feb 2nd, 2007
10:27:11 AM
Of course I know how to end a talkback.

You obviously haven't gone back in Talkback history far enough to check.

But I have.

Last.
...
by blackthought
Feb 4th, 2007
12:19:00 PM
do you all make mockery of what i and gus gave birth too? i feel like booster gold when they shot the blue beetle. where is my fellow laster?
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