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Green Arrow!! Flash!! Cyborg!! @qu@m@n!! Herc Has Seen SMALLVILLE Mete Out JUSTICE!!

No Lana Lang by Mr Cairo	Jan 18th, 2007 04:28:18 AM
Hot damn this could be a good episode
in danger of sounding lame... by Mr_Sleep001	Jan 18th, 2007 04:32:14 AM
Where'd Gotta Eat com from? it's doing my head in
Somebody gotta eat Smallville by boyblue	Jan 18th, 2007 04:33:01 AM
It really is starting to go no where fast and its trying to take other DC characters down with it!!
Somebody Save Me....From Watching Any More Of This by Kubla_Khan	Jan 18th, 2007 04:49:20 AM
I hate to say it, but cancel this now. The Superman mythos has involved, and Smallville (despite having had some nice moments here and there) feels tired and irrelevant. If they had just skipped forward in time and made Metropolis, maybe they could have made a good Supes show. But the ship of dreans has sailed,my friends. BUT Lana is extremely hot. Give her a show where she plays a lingerie model. Please.
Snakes on a train! by Snikkar124	Jan 18th, 2007 05:00:00 AM
Well well well.The justice teens...sounds...boring....yea . Smallville totaly fucks up DC`s backstories,so why not go all out.Next Darkside will show up in the form of a Fonzie looking bully.
Bah by Kubla_Khan	Jan 18th, 2007 05:08:34 AM
I meant to say the Supes mythos has EVolved. Damn onset of retardation brought on by excessive drooling over Lana's cheeks...
Lois by Venkie007	Jan 18th, 2007 05:27:11 AM
No word on whether Lois is prancing around in a top that can barely contain her perfect tits? (That seems to be the order of the day for every ep that does have Lois in it, so...just throwing it out there).
Smallville & 24 are alot alike (poorly written), but... by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 05:32:06 AM
Where they differ is, besides the death of Jonathan Kent, which supposedly was forced upon the show due to Superman Returns, Smallville doesn' wholesale slaughter its supporting cast at the drop of the hat because they can't find aything better to pull out of their ass. And right now, the writers over at 24 are so lazy they aren't even pulling anymore, they're picking the scraps of toilet paper that were left behind from previous seasons. And yes, the results are....shitty. Now regarding Herc's comments... 1. You can't compare live action to cartoon, because obviously you don't have your limitations when it comes to animation. 2.Heroes, being a new property, and a (enjoyable) ripoff as well, they have much more feedom as to how they go about things. And they don't have Warner Bros. or DC breathing down their necks like Gough and Millar. 3. Anytime they do stick in slight nods or mentions of the DC universe, it's usually met (at least on here) with a reactin that it was "cornball". 4. Smallville doesn't take the source material seriously? What do ya want? Another Superman musical? Or a episode of Lois and Clark? This is the bst telelvised live action version of the Man of Steel and you fucking know it. And questionably the best live action Supes saga for that matter. It made Supes/Clark relatable. Now, I'm not questioning the quality of this episode, there's a good chance it will be disappoiting. But at least it's still a fun little diversion, even if it doesn't turn out to be the best thing ever. And most certainly it doesn't fuck you over in the end.
Hey! by Franklin T Marmoset	Jan 18th, 2007 05:45:45 AM
If it was because I said 'Fuck Smallville', I hereby apologise. I enjoy this Smallville very much, particularly the scenes of car crashes and head trauma. Also, the ones where Clark pines over that awful Lana Lang. I really wanted an answer to my Batman question, though. What will I do now? Someone somewhere knows what I'm talking about...
What? Where is the teen-aged ULTRA THE MULTI-ALIEN? by Uncle Stan	Jan 18th, 2007 05:46:54 AM
Or B'Wana Beast?
They should scrap the Martian Manhunter episode... by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 05:53:30 AM
Before it hits the air, and recast Jackie Chiles with the dude that played Curtis, since he's been axed on 24. Let some good come out of that horseshit.
Torturing in the name of freedom and democracy by scumbag	Jan 18th, 2007 07:15:42 AM
Now where have I heard that before...
Wow, they couldn't even get this one right! by captboulder	Jan 18th, 2007 07:52:38 AM
Justice, my ass! A lame ass attempt of a JSA or JLA with Aquaman and Cyborg?! They should have left it alone and waited until they could use some TRUE DC icons!
The promo for this episode... by Nodwick	Jan 18th, 2007 08:05:06 AM
...where they're all slow-mo walking towards the camera... It looked a hell of a lot like that extraordinarily gay "Justice League" live-action pilot from the 80's/90's.
the only thing smallville has done right lately by sto110	Jan 18th, 2007 08:26:13 AM
is the lex character, he is so dead on its awesome. Evil without coming off corny, he has a reason for what he is doing. Smallville always feels like you are watching a filler episode with 2 min of actual progression
Bart is "Impulse" because of the FLASH feature film by SpyGuy	Jan 18th, 2007 08:34:22 AM
Presumably, this change means that Wally West, Jay Garrick or Barry Allen will be the Flash featured in the movie and WB wants to keep the properties separate for licensing. And if Herc gave this episode only two stars, you know it probably rocks. He lost his cred with me after bailing on GILMORE GIRLS with episode 7.1 and Season 7 has turned out to be better than Season 6.
SpyGuy is right, BUT by all your base	Jan 18th, 2007 08:57:43 AM
its ironic that there is no sign of a Flash feature film actually coming.
Lex is the reason i keep watching by BLWiseass	Jan 18th, 2007 09:24:45 AM
I love the show, have seen every single epiosde, but Smallville has maybe 4 epidoses a season that just kick ass, the rest range from laughably bad (vampire lana, evils possessed witch lana, illegal alien with a heart of gold that speaks perfect english) to mediocre (pretty much every other one). I wish they could do things differently but like Sherm said, they have WB breathing down their necks, which probably cause half of the bad creative decisions
All Your Base is also right, BUT... by SpyGuy	Jan 18th, 2007 09:31:41 AM
...it's possible sorting out the various Flash/Impulse/Kid Flash properties was one of the hurdles to moving production forward. Just out of curiosity, I checked out IMDB to see what was on there about the FLASH film and found this somewhat-interesting plot summary... "While touring the crime scene lab of his uncle, Barry Allen, teenager Wally West is doused in chemicals after a lightning bolt strikes them, which enables him to run faster than any other human being on earth. Becoming the Flash, Wally sets out to protect the people of his city from the villainous threats that arise." So if this is legit, Wally is the Flash and Barry's making a cameo or is a supporting character. Somebody get John Wesley Shipp on the phone, stat!
Superman and his Amazing Friends by Squashua	Jan 18th, 2007 09:31:49 AM
Iceman and Firestar!
Smallville comes off like a bad Silver Age "Superboy" by ZeroCorpse	Jan 18th, 2007 09:40:35 AM
Mixed with Dawson's Creek. I hate it. Instead of greenlighting so many seasons of this tripe, they should let Dini and Timm have the run of the DC Universe for a prime time animated series with adult viewers in mind. Screw calling it "Justice League" or "Superman", and just call it "Superheroes." -- If Dini can help turn out episodes of "Lost" and help make it a huge primetime hit, why not something in the DC Universe? (By the way, is it me or does Locke remind you of Batman the way he does things, treats people, and handles life on the island?)
Sherm: the difference between 24 and Smallville is.... by Ricky Henderson	Jan 18th, 2007 09:44:41 AM
that 24 manages to surprise and entertain me week after week. Smallville? No so much. Of course 24 is poorly written, its a rip off of a 1930s serial matinee flick. Smallville doesn't have that excuse. And you cannot tell me that the last hour of 24 wasn't freaking awesome. I don't believe you.
Yes, Ricky I can tell you that. by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 10:20:06 AM
In fact the last episode is a perfect example of everything thats wrong with the show. Axing characters just for the hell of it is pathetic. Especially when you've went to that well too many times in the past. And if you "don't believe" me, thats ok. Different Strokes. But just remember, if you buy what they're selling, make sure ya wash your hands afterwards because it's sure as hell unsanitary.
"prime time animated series with adult viewers in mind" by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 10:26:35 AM
L-O-L No major network would ever greenlight a DC/Marvel/Whatever animated primetime series. It would bomb faster than K-Fed's music career. (which was stillborn)
Can't we like both 24 AND Smallville?!? by Acappellaman	Jan 18th, 2007 10:31:42 AM
I mean really, people. Why do some of you insist on bashing other shows and making all these stupid comparisons? I enjoy watching BOTH shows. What a concept! I also enjoy Lost and a half dozen other shows. I do not, however, watch Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars or Battlestar Galactica, for mixed reasons I don't want to bore you with.
Bart Allen is Impulse by Jor-El23	Jan 18th, 2007 10:36:45 AM
Because Bart Allen is Impulse. That's who Bart Allen is at some point. Was he in the JLA? No but since there's no mention of the JLA in this episode it doesn't really matter.
Most of the time Smallville is just plain lazy by Reelheed	Jan 18th, 2007 11:06:53 AM
The shows creators just keep piling up stories on the same small canvas. I keep wanting the show to just move on to a new location. OK maybe keep Smallville running and have Clark leave. It frustrates me as it feels like the show keeps tying itself into knots trying to go back and forth over the same themes and ideas.
Smallville? Two words: by aicmb	Jan 18th, 2007 11:15:54 AM
Shit sandwich. It has been a shit sandwich pretty much since season 3.
Herc doesn't even WATCH Smallville (regularly) anymore. by Atomica	Jan 18th, 2007 11:16:00 AM
I enjoyed the Episode thoroughly. IF you watch the show and are a DC Comics fan, you'll love the references made during the show. The cast worked great together and I'd love to see a "Justice" spin-off from it. I love Torrents. ;)
oh, and 24? two more words: by aicmb	Jan 18th, 2007 11:24:11 AM
Shit and sandwich. A rather big and sloppy one at that. VMars? Good. BSG? Good. Rome? Excellent. Lost? Best pilot in the history of television, but nowadays pretty "Feh." Oh, and Tom Welling's metabolism pretty much shut down two years ago. Dudes a blimp.
Green Arrow tv spin off? by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 11:34:20 AM
Is it possible? Can it be done? Do ya think?
They should get Tarantino to direct an episode by YackBacker	Jan 18th, 2007 11:37:26 AM
"Kill Lana"- a guaranteed 5-star episode! That character is a fucking cancer on this show. From day one, she has been a drain on our hero, like a chunk of glowing green rock from Addis Ababa. And nothing would make me laugh harder than to see Clark drive around in a Pussy Wagon.
Yackbacker: Let's just hope Lana does marry Lex by SpyGuy	Jan 18th, 2007 11:49:26 AM
There are two sure-fire ways to get killed off on SMALLVILLE: 1) Find out that Clark has super-powers; 2) Marry Lex Luthor. If the wedding does happen, expect Lana Luthor to suddenly fall down a flight of stairs or end up driving over an embankment reallly soon...
Lana Lang by Dragulf	Jan 18th, 2007 12:12:08 PM
or as I like to call her "the eye rolleroaster" because her eyes move around so much when she is blathering away. Kirsten not in the episode? Yay! Michael Rosenbaum(Lex) is the best actor on the show along with Mr. Glover and Miss Sullivan.
Shouldn't it have said... by Dr. Butthole	Jan 18th, 2007 12:17:11 PM
"The two Aquamen got along swimmingly." Hello? Is this thing on?!
Christian Bale should pop in next season... by lynxpro	Jan 18th, 2007 12:59:15 PM
Would that not be awesome? Bruce Wayne pops into Metropolis and/or Smallville to check out the superhuman rumors and to keep tabs on what Lex is conspiring (since Luthor/Lexcorp is a rival of Wayne Industries). Clark and Bruce meet, etc. It would be a great way to promote Batman - The Dark Knight as well as score easy ratings for Smallville. It would be the best cross promo since the time Harrison Ford dropped in to cameo on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles or when Nemoy guest-starred on TNG. It would also serve to drop-kick the current Superman "franchise" and pour salt into the wounds of Peters/Singer and their lame movie ideas for the property. Make it so, CW!
aicmb by lynxpro	Jan 18th, 2007 01:01:00 PM
Lemme guess...you were one of the guys who actively said David Boreanaz was fat the last two seasons of Angel too.
the show also needs Cerina Vincent to pop in... by lynxpro	Jan 18th, 2007 01:04:18 PM
Considering its been like two seasons since the SciFi Channel's other darling, Emmanuelle Vaughier, was on the show for a few episodes... I take that back. To get Cerina Vincent on the show, Bigfoot would have to make an appearance in Smallville because apparently there's a clause in her contracts that she has to appear in anything related to Bigfoot. I speculate she has "timber fever". She's super hot though.
This show pisses me off.. by apersonofinterest	Jan 18th, 2007 01:07:19 PM
I was a fan and they took my fandom and shit all over it. I have been waiting for tonight's episode ever since I read about it on kryptonsite but I am prepared for the worst. I'm pretty sure this is the last season and it seems like gough and miller are just letting it die a slow painful death. If you can't get the rights to the characters and names then fuck it, don't do it. Why they can't get the rights may be a sign that the license holders think your tv show is shit and they don't want to risk the name. Yeah, the fans want to see those characters but they don't want to see a character "kinda like" the flash. Keep Batman off of this show because he won't be Batman. He will be Adam Wayne "Batguy" or "the Black Bat". Lana is just ridiculously unbelievable these days. KILL HER!!! Lex is the best Lex ever brought to screen and so far they haven't trashed his mythos too badly. In fact, I would say spin off Lex Luthor into his own show so we can just root for the villain. "Luthorville". Keep Lionel. Keep Chloe. Clark can guest star on his show because he doesn't deserve his own show anymore. Who's with me?
i believe that... by Krangelus	Jan 18th, 2007 01:07:50 PM
...supernatural is a far better show.
Well, I still like it. by BizarroJerry	Jan 18th, 2007 01:27:04 PM
What else is there to say. The writers @#$%ed up in not knowing how to write the Lana character and making her the less likable character when compared to Chloe. But he can't be with the non-comic character, can he? Ugh... did I just start discussing "Days of Our Lives" here? Lord help me.
This crap needs to be canceled ASAP! by glodene	Jan 18th, 2007 01:39:45 PM
Then replace it with a Wayans Bros./Tyra Banks vehicle...And despite Lana's character flaws, i luv to see her do porn because she is soooo hot.
Shoot Smallville, and put it out of it's misery. by skydemon	Jan 18th, 2007 01:41:18 PM
After being on and off of watching Smallville again and again, my patience was finally pushed to the end after about the middle of season five. Smallville is frustrating, a good episode once in a great while comes along and makes you think it's finally going to be something, then it's back to the same lame crap for the next four weeks. What a shame, if behind the scenes the show were ran by some other group of individuals with some talent and some drive to do some good storytelling, Smallville could easily be must-see TV.
Why bother showing Martian Manhunter by Grando	Jan 18th, 2007 01:44:42 PM
and then not using him in this episode?
Have you noticed that... by chrisd	Jan 18th, 2007 01:46:54 PM
the scene of Clark, Ollie and the rest walking side by side in a line looks unfortunately like a similar scene in that awful Justice Leaugue live action pilot. http://www.kryptonsite.com/jla 5.jpg http://www.geocities.com/sideo rderofninjas/images/jla-004.jp g
RE: "Luthorville." How about the show Otisburg? by YackBacker	Jan 18th, 2007 02:00:51 PM
Otisburg? OTISBURG?!?!?
two stars by ewokstew	Jan 18th, 2007 02:05:14 PM
Not surprised in the least. The last time I got excited watching Smalville when they had Clark visiting Reeves as Dr. Swan at and the Superman movie music was playing in the backgorund.
holy.. by ewokstew	Jan 18th, 2007 02:06:28 PM
I really butchered that post.
Otisburg by apersonofinterest	Jan 18th, 2007 02:09:52 PM
At this point, I think I just might watch that before Smallville. But besides the title, I don't care what they call it..I would love to see Lex get his own show. Something along the lines of "Profit" with Chloe and the Planet as the protagonist. Always trying to infiltrate and investigate his activities but Lex and Lionel are always one step ahead. It would be so much more interesting than whatever the hell trainwreck they have going on now..
Smallville suffers most from it's by veritasses	Jan 18th, 2007 02:15:30 PM
weak, lame stories written for tweenies. Mature themes, geek laiden uber moments and smart dialog will revive the show. What we really don't need are episodes of "Growing Pains" set in the DC universe. It's had (few and brief) moments that showed the show's potential but a 5 minute span of coolness airing every 7 episodes or so isn't enough to draw and keep an audience. Maybe move away from the episodic format and more towards the Heros/24 ever continusing/evolving format.
I still like it by oisin5199	Jan 18th, 2007 02:16:53 PM
but it does have its flaws. Like everything about Lana. And yeah, that Subterranean episode was freakin' terrible, but there's some good stuff occasionally. But you cannot compare it to Heroes in any way. They're practically different genres, let alone a different kind of universe. That's like comparing Unbreakable to Spiderman. One's a comic book adaptation, the other's a drama with 'superpowers.' And I don't think this is the last season. It's still a pretty popular show. I'm sure they'll go one more (a nice even Buffy 7). But then they really have to end it.
Is Clark a virgin? by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 02:25:16 PM
Or is he tainted by sin?
Have Alex Ross guest star as a by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 02:27:30 PM
washed up comicbook/screen writer who finds his muse in Chloe or Lana.
Needs more topless Erica Durance by Darth_Gonz	Jan 18th, 2007 02:32:37 PM
The only high point of the infamous Uwe Boll "House of the Dead" masterpiece was Lois Lane's magnificent breasteses covered in water.
Also, Allison Mack needs to show more taint. by Darth_Gonz	Jan 18th, 2007 02:40:22 PM
THE FANS DEMAND IT! The part between her butthole and her vagina=RATINGS!
No wonder Batman kknows he take on the Justice League by Big Bad Clone	Jan 18th, 2007 02:57:36 PM
He see what pussies they were on Smallville. Aquaman broke some hydrophones. Kid Flash ran around a lot. Cyborg broke shit and ran off. Green Arrow has had stupider situtaions than Lana. And Superman found out he could blow real hard this season. (Was that episode called "Blow Me?")
Erica Durance in Playboy? by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 02:59:47 PM
Airbrush those "extreme" dimples around her mouth. How old is she anyway? Late thirties?
Why does Impulse wear that stupid hood? by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 03:05:22 PM
The hood look is fine with Green Arrow. However, the aesthetic fails miserably on Impulse. That's my opinion. I could be wrong.
Oh, I forgot. Bruce Willis wore a hood in Unbreakable. by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 03:06:35 PM
That makes everything fine now.
Re: Erica Durance in Playboy? by Darth_Gonz	Jan 18th, 2007 03:08:56 PM
She'll be 30 next June 21st, Sinestro.
Hoods are a damn copout to superhero costumes by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 03:10:09 PM
Damn you Neal Adams, Alex Ross and everyone that tries to make Superheroes "REAL". Let's throw out imagination and the sense of awe that superheroes once possessed. God bless C.C. Beck!
Fuckin' Hoodville by Sinestro	Jan 18th, 2007 03:11:29 PM
My rant is over. whew.
Chloe is the cutest chick on Smallville and perhaps TV. by anchorite	Jan 18th, 2007 03:33:09 PM
And she's a pretty good actress, too.
Smallville has taken a nosedive the last 2 seasons... by anchorite	Jan 18th, 2007 03:35:25 PM
Everything about it is hackneyed. I used to look forward weekly to my Superman mythos. Now, it just seems more and more silly, trite, ridiculous (the Subterranean episode was enough to make me puke) and disappointing. I hope it gets its focus back before too long or else it's dead to me!
animated GA spinoff and JL DVD? by filmfanatic1	Jan 18th, 2007 04:01:46 PM
Well, WB is going to give GA an animated spinoff, but just on mobile phones for now and Bruce Timm is working on a JL DVD, according to his bio on IMDB. http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ news.aspx?id=20070117cw01
They just maintain the status quo by seanny_d	Jan 18th, 2007 04:20:05 PM
People make irrational decisions, are completely inconsistent, and stuff is just dragged on and on. 1)Clark, after years of lying, is STILL a terrible liar. "Hey Clark, where did you go?" "Uh, um, I uh, had to use the bathroom." 2) Why haven't you told Lana your secret. By this point, it's just laziness. It's cool for Chloe to know, it's cool for LIONEL to know, but you won't share this huge secret with the person you love the most? 3)Clark's photo was on the front page of the Daily Planet. The creators must be loving the fact that they don't have to address the secret identity once Superman shows up because they have completely fucked themselves with any possible way out of that. The glasses thing requires a bit of a stretch, but when everyone and their mother knows Clark Kent without glasses, how do you figure he's going to be able to hide? I continue to watch the show out of habit, and I still do occasionally see glimpses of greatness. But overall it has severely fallen in quality.
There are only two reasons to watch "Smallville" by Snookeroo	Jan 18th, 2007 05:02:47 PM
1) Erica Durance' left boob 2) Erica Durance' right boob
THERE IS ONLY ONE REASON TO WATCH SMALLVILLE!!! by wackybantha	Jan 18th, 2007 05:05:33 PM
ALLISON MACK aka CHLOE SULLIVAN!!! If she were any cuter I'd have to be hospitalized.
Chloe is the girl you can take... by glodene	Jan 18th, 2007 05:27:50 PM
take home to meet mommy. Lois and Lana are the type of girls you meet at the club, get them liquored up and have your way with them at the local Farmers' Daughter Motel.
That Jimmy Olsen is one LUCKY BASTARD!!! by wackybantha	Jan 18th, 2007 05:35:35 PM
Something tells me that Chloe may not survive the series. Although Lana's death would probably make more sense. I keep wanting Clark and Chloe to get together (with the ol' Chloe takes Lois' identity speculation) but I think it's obvious now that the writers aren't gonna let that happen. Lois is cool too but Chloe is Chloe, damn it!!!
Mom, this is Chloe. Chloe, my Mom. by wackybantha	Jan 18th, 2007 05:39:48 PM
Chloe Olsen? Sounds weird.
I understand... by Lain Of The Net	Jan 18th, 2007 05:53:49 PM
...it is not fair to compare the comics and the show but right now I prefer the show. I admit I have not bought too many DC comics (lately) but I did find a set of last year's "Infinite Crisis" series. Four different Supes that I can remember and a Batman that really needs to be locked up some place. Superboy killing left and right (pulling off arms) and Wonder Woman breaking necks. I'm not really qualified to talk DC at the moment but back when I was a kid Superboy went out of his way to avoid killing insects in science class. I still remember the animated "cyber-cloned" Batman and his anguish as he realized he had killed. I guess my point is I remember when these guys were heroes and stuff like this would not have been done even in the imaginary tales they used to do. I know that the comics when I was growing up were much more scrutinized by the now defunct comics code and that it was this code that messed up the continuity somewhat at DC. I also realize that there is an effort to restore some sense of understandable history in the DC universe but I'm not liking what I see. Anyway ...I notice the bi-annual Lana and Clark thing is rearing its head again but aside from that I would rather watch the show than read the comics at this point. That Lana gonna come to a bad end the way she is going!!
It's strange that the responses here are so negative... by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 06:36:36 PM
When the last talkback, was just the opposite. Oh, and it's got one more season after this.
Sherm by YackBacker	Jan 18th, 2007 07:16:20 PM
Fanboys/girls are a fickle bunch. You, my friend, are a fucking rock, however. Good luck with this season AND next season... yikes.
Sherm is the Don Quixote of.. by glodene	Jan 18th, 2007 07:51:34 PM
Smallville. Where others see windmills of mediocrity, he sees dragons of artistic genius. Fight the good fight my son...Even though, you're doomed to fail to sway the unwashed.
well, i think the show is shite... by aicmb	Jan 18th, 2007 07:57:25 PM
but I enjoyed the fanboyish elements of that episode. that said, i'd hit chloe. i'd hit lana. i'd plow lois upside down and sideways. hell, i'd even go inverted on mrs. kent.
Actually... by Lain Of The Net	Jan 18th, 2007 08:06:08 PM
...I think some people may have missed something that I found a bit special. Almost anything on television seems to work when a strong ensemble cast is in place. Unfortunately, due to budgets, we don't get these kind of episodes often. I remember a show that involved a cowboy cop in New York that used this type of story in a Holiday episode. They never did it again but I do recall how much I enjoyed that one episode. I also think this episode illustrated that Smallville is stronger without Lana. This series has so much potential but the problem I have is its teasing nature. If next season is the last we may be in for something fun assuming some of the restrictions are lifted.
Well, surpise surprise... by fanboy71	Jan 18th, 2007 08:20:46 PM
I actually dug this episode. Except for the LAME-O SLOW-MO.. God, that was cheesy. My wife actually laughed out loud during that scene. I did really like Chloe as ...well, Chloe (O'brien). I know, she's supposed to be like Oracle, AKA Barbara Gordon, AKA Batgirl after being paralyzed by the Joker, for those not caught up, but I couldn't keep from making the 24 connection as she was telling them where people were in the building, etc. It's a huge stretch when our government does it on 24, and it's an even bigger one to think a reporter could pull that off. Now if they would just follow a few simple steps back to the right track, this show might pull back some viewers. Takong notes CW? Step 1: KILL LANA! We all hate her. She was never the sweet redhead who knew Clarks secret from the comics, and she is a dead weight to this show. Off with her head! 2: Let Clark fly already. The flight scene from whatever season that was is STILL the highlight of the show. 3: Let Clark and Lex at each other. Quit pussy footin' around. But, I enjoyed tonights show. The first in a long time. Bravo!
Justice Gay by Mustache Wax	Jan 18th, 2007 08:21:10 PM
That was the most homoerotic thing I have ever seen in my life. I was afraid my dad was gonna walk in on me, and throw me out of the house in disgust.
say what you want about smallville... by jojo-pimp	Jan 18th, 2007 08:22:41 PM
but its lasted longer than Angel now, and if they renew it, as long as Buffy, and a HELL of alot longer than Serenity!! So gripe all you want, I just think its cool that the WB/CW at least takes chances bringing comic book characters to the small screen unlike the major networks.
WOW by SaluteYourShorts	Jan 18th, 2007 08:28:37 PM
Okay, that was AWESOME. slow motion money shot with them walking, zooming in on clark. IT DOESN'T GET MUCH BETTER THAN THIS. lex is purely evil. episode looked great, was directed perfectly, and - did i mention the money shot?
AWESOME EPISODE by SaluteYourShorts	Jan 18th, 2007 08:29:42 PM
that could not have let anyone down...it was sick.
does LEAD mask Thermal Images? by tranpkp1	Jan 18th, 2007 08:30:18 PM
If tat guy got shot w/ the Green Arrow dart that looked like it injected something...did someone drag him out? cause it sounds like he called Lex and made Clark. They should have killed that clark and then make clark all mad at GA and Chloe.
That was one of the better ones this year.. by jojo-pimp	Jan 18th, 2007 08:30:39 PM
they really did a good job of not making it cheezy, and giving them a purpose for working together. Honestly, i would watch a Green Arrow spin off in a heart beat...i really think that character has held Smallville together alot this season.
St. martese by trekker rc	Jan 18th, 2007 08:41:47 PM
That location sounds like a reference to something in comics. anyone know anything it might relate to?
@qu@t@rd and the kryptocloset were the only weak spots. by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 09:17:14 PM
Better than expected. And next week's episode looks interestng.
RANK 'EM!!! by wackybantha	Jan 18th, 2007 09:19:46 PM
1) CHLOE, 2) LOIS, 3) LANA.
I thought it was pretty good by zekmoe	Jan 18th, 2007 09:29:41 PM
I mean, it's a TV show with a limited effects budget. So going in, I didn't expect much and wasn't disappointed. In fact, it was entertaining enough. You guys are too critical. Be happy any super hero show is on these days.
RANK 'EM!!! by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 09:35:19 PM
1)CHLOE, 2)LANA, 3)LOIS (with a bag over that fugly mug). Kristin's still my girl though, but she ain't as hot as she used to be. She... GOTTA EAT!!!
it was a fun episode by BLWiseass	Jan 18th, 2007 09:43:27 PM
I liked it, wish it wasn't another episode where they wrapped everything up in seconds. Though i can't figure otu how Clark has never been caught running at super speed into a room and doing his stop look around then walk casually over to what he was looking for routine. It seems like Lex should have enough video for a "best of Clark" dvd by now. And it also bugs me that sunglasses now double as masks for the budding super heroes. Ah well. Typical smallville gripes but i love it nontheless. Lex's "and i want a ponytail" comments was pretty funny.
Was it just me..? by beefywhore	Jan 18th, 2007 09:53:07 PM
Or were @qu@m@n and cyborg kinda gay for each other??
Once again, Herc misses the point of fanboy episodes by SpyGuy	Jan 18th, 2007 10:39:25 PM
I still can't get over his "two stars" for an episode that had the rehearsal Justice League of America, Lex Luthor getting his supervillain (complete with death-trap) on, Chloe playing "Oracle" in the "Watchtower," Lois working her awesome rack, and Lana being blissfully absent. Shit, this episode wasn't even in a sweeps month, so imagine how cool the Justice Little League vs. the Legion of Level 33.1 is going to be when May rolls around.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! by Negative Man	Jan 18th, 2007 10:44:33 PM
This ep is the funnist thing I've watched in a loooooong time! I never liked Green Arrow on this show...costume and techno-glasses are pretty queer looking (not in the 'gay' way ya homophobes!) and his acting is just this side of a box of Crayola. And really, WTFs up with the crossbow? But MAN! The Flash's get-up is super queer (in the Pride marching way) and WOW is he a terrible actor! His whole 'defiant' look at Luthor before the cell was activated was terribly bad. Cyborg and Aquaman were not as bad. The kid playing Cyborg was the best actor out of the guest foursome tonight. And shouldn't Lex have more than one camera to spare in his secret lairs? He's doing something so potentially ground breaking (and kinda evil), but doesn't invest in any kind of real security aside from lead doors? The Chloe/Oracle stuff was fun, as was the last fifteen minutes or so (though, as luck would have it, Aquaman had swimming hole to get into the place). All in all though, Herc was right on the money with the two star rating. Dialogue was horrible, the 'nudge-nudge-wink-wink' fanboy inside jokes were painful, the sappy goodbye was the same ol' same ol' Lana/Clark-type stuff we've already seen so many times before. Just a lame episode. I had no high hopes for it, but man did they crawl under that bar.
JoJo-Pimp by mrtwig48	Jan 18th, 2007 10:49:54 PM
The only reason Smallville has lasted this long is because Superman and his world are established characters. The show itself isn't bad, but it isn't good. The reason people bitch about it is because we want and expect a great show.
WTF was that shit!?!? That was pure shit! by captboulder	Jan 18th, 2007 10:56:04 PM
I usually apologize for some bad shit but that was just some bad shit! DC is probably laughing their asses off knowing they kept most of their icons outta this shit episode! Aquaman taking orders from a surface dweller?! WTF!?! Chloe dressing like an old lady with a dress that 3 sizes too big! Man, this episode should have never been attempted w/o a better cast of characters.
More like METRO-SEXULAL LEAGUE OF AMERICA!!! by Negative Man	Jan 18th, 2007 11:12:04 PM
Just sayin'. Well groomed, shaven, oiled down, young boys in bright rainbow colors out to save the world from an agngry, whiny, bald, intollerant, white guy with a father complex...sounds kinda...y'know...but they're not. I mean, the guy named Queen likes girls. Right? (HA! I make with the funny!)
Or...METRO-SEXUAL LEAGUE OF AMERICA... by Negative Man	Jan 18th, 2007 11:13:51 PM
OOF! I have to lay off the NyQuil/Red Bull mixes...
Rank It, and I dug tonights ep. by kdoc13	Jan 18th, 2007 11:25:56 PM
Ok, first and foremost, I dug tonight's show. It was the first time in a long time. I have to agree thought, it's time to fly, learn the rest of the powers, and let Lex and Clark go at it. I think it's also time to let Lana in on the secret, and then kill her off. As for ranking them? I;m going to take the truly obscure route for a couple. Here we go... 1.) Sarah Carter as Alicia, 2.) Pascalle Hutton as Raya & 3.) Tie, either First three seasons Lana Lnag, or Adrianne Palicki as Kaya.
"Aquaman taking orders from a surface dweller?!" by Angry Mean Panda	Jan 18th, 2007 11:29:36 PM
He's fucking Aquaman, not Namor.
Solid episode by Jor-El23	Jan 18th, 2007 11:36:34 PM
Anyone catch the Corto Maltese reference at the end? Also, what exactly was the "thing" that Aquaman did that downed all those guards?
Spinoff? by OhioBobcat	Jan 18th, 2007 11:51:15 PM
To me this felt like one of those episodes of a series that serve the purpose of being a pilot for another series. Let the crew have their spinoff next season, and end Smallville for good in season 7 with Clark becoming Superman. Then Tom Welling can make guest appearances on JL as Supes in between missions and whatnot.
RANK EM!!! Ok, if we're being obscure by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2007 11:52:00 PM
1) Desiree Atkins, aka Mrs.Lex Luthor 1 of 3 (Krista Allen) There'd be no 2 or 3 because with Krista, you don't need anyone else. Well, unless you're George Clooney.
Corto Maltese by Lennard	Jan 19th, 2007 12:02:16 AM
As I understand it Corto Maltese was mentioned in Burton's Batman Vicki Vale hung out there taking War Snaps
Great Episode.. by BIGMAC1701	Jan 19th, 2007 12:24:55 AM
Actually I have always liked Smallville from day 1. Being a DC comic reader especially Supe's and also a fan of the Elseworld titles put out by DC. Thats basicly what section I put smallville into...just a different take on a classic story, like having Clark and Lex friends at such an early age, well friends at all for that matter. This also gives the writers more room to breath and able to take more liberties. But hey what do I know, Im just some guy from Canada...
JLI Reference.. by 8footTallGopher	Jan 19th, 2007 12:38:57 AM
anyone catch that... Chloe traces the number bart calls to a Company called JL International... who has a SATELLITE that is ORBITING in metropolis...
Martian Manhunter... by zombieslayer	Jan 19th, 2007 01:31:52 AM
is back next week. They really shoulda done it the other way around. John Jones belongs in every version of the Justice League. He's a more consistent member than Supes and Batman.
"brilliant scripts and acting on 24" by Shermdawg	Jan 19th, 2007 02:07:33 AM
Uh, there hasn't been any since season three.
RE: bacci40 by Negative Man	Jan 19th, 2007 04:50:31 AM
Tried to sit back and enjoy...but this ep was so bad that it made me straighten up in sheer terror! That's spinal straightening, everything else retreated into my pelvis for protection. Let me tell you, that is an odd feeling. A weird tingling, yet not pleasurable. References mean nothing if it is just done in a nudge to fanboys/girls that are delievered in such a way as to seem like it's written by people who are not fans, but think they are being clever. The passing reference to the 'Monster of Gotham' from season one was nice...the "I Don't know what our name should be, but it should have 'Justice' in it." (paraphrasing) was just plain, bad, lazy, insulting writing. Writing that smacks of reading Talkbacks and throwing bread out to the people in the arena. And if you are NOT sure you are going to keep watching now that the JLA arch is over, that MUST mean you DON'T think the show is worthy of watching anymore. Don't it?
beefywhore may be right by weebay	Jan 19th, 2007 06:19:18 AM
I do think Cyborg and Aquaman were kinda feeling each others vibe there. I think Aquaman wanted some of that.
I would watch spinoff! by Dazzler69	Jan 19th, 2007 06:34:13 AM
I hope "Justice" whatever gets their series! The only way the ep could have been better is if their were villians to fight that Lex brainwashed. But so far not totally evil for Lex. I do miss Lex and Clark's friendship but alas it was never meant to be. Also for the spinoff we need a hottie to be Wonder woman for the team and not a lame 3rd rater that D/C has, maybe Ultra girl maybe? She is stacked in the books.
Introduce Power Girl with her Power Rack by Snookeroo	Jan 19th, 2007 07:56:00 AM
and I am so there.
Great Season by _Maltheus_	Jan 19th, 2007 08:41:46 AM
I think this is one of, if not the best, seasons of this show. I know people hate this show cause it's not "good", but it's fun. And while I understand people who still watch Lost while hating it (secretly hoping it'll turn around), this is Smallville and it is what it is. Get over it. I like this story lines that other superheros open up, but I agree that Queen is ultra queer. And I still don't get Aquaman, he swims??? Ummm, that came in handy. I do think Lana is bad for the show (although she's not as bad with Lex), but I still rank her hotter than Chloe or Lois. And yes, her not knowing Clark's secret is freaking ridiculous already. But if she knew, then she might get with Clark, and that wouldn't be good for the show either. I do want to see Clark fly before the end of the show (think last few episodes, not last one). And I would also like to see Lex discover his identity. I've always been pro fuck continuity. I think it wouldn't matter much cause even a more evil Lex probably wouldn't fuck with Martha. It's hard not to like her and Lionel's influence would be a factor as well. And Lex wouldn't reveal Clark's secret to the world cause he hasn't on any other of his krypto discoveries. He'd lose his power in knowing it. Hell, if they didn't hit the reset button on the 100th episode, we would have had all of this. It would have set up the rivalry perfectly. However, I'm sure they'll just stick close to the movies, like they've been doing. Fuckin' shame.
Herc was wrong by oisin5199	Jan 19th, 2007 11:44:50 AM
First of all, this was an awesome episode. As someone else said, it had everything you want from a Smallville ep. Evil Lex, Justice action, Chloe in oracle mode, hot girls (and beefcake for the ladies), and NO Lana. It could only be better if Spike-iac had shown up. I was even impressed with the bit of range that Durance showed in the final scenes. Secondly, Chloe already knew Ollie was the Green Arrow - she didn't find out this episode like Herc said. Now, bring on Martian Manhunter and his carelessly dropped Oreos! (though next week looks like a ripoff of Buffy's 'Normal Again' episode, which itself was a ripoff of a DS9 episode, but better).
Sounds more like Teen Titans than Justice League by Kikstad	Jan 19th, 2007 12:16:08 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like Smallville and enjoy the superhero cameos, but when I think of Justice League I think of Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, The Flash, etc. So this episode looks more like Teen Titans, especially with Cyborg and Impulse (and technically Aqualad and Superboy and Speedy since none of the characters in the show is the adult version of Aquaman, Superman, or Green Arrow yet). I'm just nitpicking. :)
I second, third... whatever, that motion by ewokstew	Jan 19th, 2007 02:10:59 PM
This was an actually decent episode for a change. Yes, No Lana made it very nice. I got a little goosebumpy seeing at least somewhat of a JLA seed being planted. Some of the shots of them were nicely arranged. One was pretty goofy due to bad FX (team walking away from the exploding building) It's also nice how Oliver Queen continues to harp on Clark's lack of willingness to get pro-active instead of waiting for trouble to show up. All this is, I'm sure, helps to re-inforce his evolution into Superman. No, not a great episode, but darn near.
someone made a coment by ewokstew	Jan 19th, 2007 02:19:45 PM
about this show being awful.. Compared to a lot of well written TV out there, yeah it is. But you have to watch stuff like this to keep the balance. Yes, Smallville is goofy and sophmoric, but it's also fun. It appeals to the kid in me. I'm an adult and my overall preference is to watch shows with fantastic writing, Sopranos when it first came out, Galactica, 24, Lost (mostly all when they first came out) but the kid in me wants to see Smallville and I'm glad it does. Otherwise I'd end up some cynical, bitter old man. Forget that, life's too short.
JLA vs. Rent-A-Cops by Big Bad Clone	Jan 19th, 2007 03:09:48 PM
and to think that the League nearly lost this fight.
This episode kicked ass!!!! by kurdt420	Jan 19th, 2007 03:57:46 PM
and this show kicks ass! Haters can go back and watch thier precious Battlestar and frack off.
Smallville = Masturbation by Sinestro	Jan 19th, 2007 04:31:52 PM
IT'S THAT BAD
I still say bring Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears as by Sinestro	Jan 19th, 2007 04:34:40 PM
the BLACK CANARY.
Justice Titans by Napoleon Park	Jan 19th, 2007 04:47:40 PM
Cyborg, Aqualad, Speedy, Kid Flash and Superboy. I get it. Clever. I hadn't watched Smallboy since episode three or four but I had to catch this because of the hype in TV Listings Magazine. I enjoyed it. About Erica durances breasts, google image search with filtering disabled and there they are. Nice, but there's lots better in internet pron. Corto Maltese was the lead character in a series of European graphic albums. The artist was an influence on Miller's drawing style, that's why he name checked the property in Dark Knight. At first I reacted as if "You have some amazing friends" was a Spider-man reference since I have a friend who liked that show. Then I realized that if she's said "You have some Super-Friends there" I would have had to kick in my TV.
Sinestro by Napoleon Park	Jan 19th, 2007 04:51:10 PM
if "masturbation = it's that bad" in your book, you're doing it wrong. have you tried making a circle with your thumb and forefinger to form a mouth (with the other fingers folded under as a tongue? Or try corn starch as a dry lube for extra friction, but wash it off afterwards or you'll get a yeast infection.
well you should feel right at home then METALWATER by kurdt420	Jan 19th, 2007 05:37:30 PM
hahahahahahahah!
Hmm... by IncredibleYoda	Jan 19th, 2007 06:40:32 PM
I agree with everything.
martain manhunter IS on next week by jojo-pimp	Jan 19th, 2007 08:32:13 PM
He is the black dude they showed talking to Clark...he doesn't appear in his martian form (remeber, he is a shapeshifter)
Once was a good show.. by Freefinger	Jan 19th, 2007 08:47:58 PM
... Now it's losing most of the good things that were there in the beginning. I was hoping for a better story than that, they were half there, but still a little disapointing.
Two stars!?! by Billyeveryteen	Jan 19th, 2007 08:54:48 PM
Look, I really dig Heroes too, but you can like both shows. This ep was a fanboy's wet dream. No Lana, redeaming 3 lame heroes, evil Lex, and respect for Clark. Sure JLU is win, but this is place.
im with you Billy by kurdt420	Jan 19th, 2007 08:54:52 PM
people get so whiny when the didnt write the show they had in thier head. It was one of the best episodes in the entire series.
IncredibleYoda, I'm with you by Kenny8	Jan 19th, 2007 10:56:34 PM
I have to agree with everything being said as well. I loved it, I hated it. But in the end I just went along with it and had a hoot. It's Smallville, what are you expecting? Lana Lang will die in childbirth as the series finale. Mark my words.
I went to school with Flash...Impulse...whatever by Fridge	Jan 19th, 2007 11:07:30 PM
they're calling him now. He wasnt nearly as fast though, and he didnt have poorly CGI'd slow-mo scenes when he walked down the hall either.
What a POS show by Jack Burton Says...	Jan 20th, 2007 12:42:43 AM
I can't believe people have watch this show for what 5 years now? 4? 6? Whatever. How long has Clark been on that damn farm? How long is he going to keep doing absolutely nothing to move the show forward? I tuned in waaaaaaaaay back in the pilot and I tuned it again this week for the "Justice" episode and NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Bleh. Cancel this show and put it out of its misery.
sigh by Shermdawg	Jan 20th, 2007 05:25:05 AM
He can't move forward, don't you see? No flights, no tights. That was the LAW placed by Warner Bros. when the series started. They don't want competing Supermen. Trust me, if the movie franchise wasn't happenin, the show would be where we want it to be by now.
Chloe from smallville = office hottie by Neo Zeed	Jan 20th, 2007 03:15:01 PM
Chloe from 24 = not office hottie. Anyway, I thought the episode was good for Smallville's standards. However, I thought the JLA should've fought at least one superpowered baddie together. BTW..I give up on Supernatural. I thought it could have potential from last season's finale, but this season's eps are way boring.
This show is really silly... by PurityOfEssence	Jan 21st, 2007 02:33:56 AM
at times amussing, but it is something that I am embaresed to say that I've watched it.
In the future, all superheroes will wear hoodies... by Sledge Hammer	Jan 21st, 2007 11:24:31 AM
...that is all.
Hoodies are way cool. by Shermdawg	Jan 21st, 2007 12:25:22 PM
It worked for Star Wars didn't it?

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