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Harry says, CURSE OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER is an exquisite mix of badassness and beauty!

pls, leave Harry alone by BadMrWonka	Jan 12th, 2007 04:48:24 AM
true.
Yay for him by blindambition238	Jan 12th, 2007 04:49:18 AM
Too bad chow yun fat never got a break in american cinema
Hmmmm by stemjsim	Jan 12th, 2007 04:51:57 AM
Sounds good I suppose but I want to see the NINJAS ATTACK
Oh and... by blindambition238	Jan 12th, 2007 04:52:25 AM
Plant!
Ninjas... by Sword23	Jan 12th, 2007 05:19:13 AM
A lot of westerners don't realize this, but most of the Japanese culture came from China. Japan has a real knack for taking credit where it's not due. Bonsai? tea ceremony? karate? jiu jitsu? Ha! think again! Heck, even sudoku didn't originate from Japan.
really? by HEADGEEK	Jan 12th, 2007 05:25:01 AM
COOL! Ok - so there is no accuracy problem then. Emperor Chow Yun Fat has a historically accurate NINJA ARMY OF BADASSES
where are the reviews lately? by ephor	Jan 12th, 2007 05:40:56 AM
That was a nice rant. It almost competes with Massawyrm's tirade against Happy Feet. Give us a plot summary, tell us what works and what doesn't... it's called a review... We don't need 13 paragraphs describing how much Chow Yun Fat is a badass. and check your thesaurus. it may not have badass but I'm sure you can find the equivalent.
the cum was by HEADGEEK	Jan 12th, 2007 05:54:25 AM
from my own cock - as the blow was coming from this movie - so hard - it blew my jizz out my own ass.
Fuck you, I love Frankenberry! by HEADGEEK	Jan 12th, 2007 05:54:50 AM
'natch
The Geek got excited by Affleckwasthebomb	Jan 12th, 2007 05:57:21 AM
Come on guys, it's not technically the most sound and proffessional review but Harry I hope is still a proper geek at heart. He just got excited about what he saw. Fuck, Ninjas are always guaranteed to get some one hard. Oh and anyone else think Chow Yun Fat could be Badass in this movie?
You cant go wrong with ninjas! by knifeandfork	Jan 12th, 2007 06:01:29 AM
You just cant.
All this and no mention... by Tin Snoman	Jan 12th, 2007 06:16:18 AM
of Gong Li's cleavage? I've been distracted by it for weeks now in all it's pixely glory, and all Harry can talk about is Chinese ninjas. I agree that ninjas are important, but boobies are pretty high on the list too...
Sounds like a great movie, but come on Harry.... by Klaus Herzog	Jan 12th, 2007 06:18:46 AM
this is just ridiculous! I mean who do you think your audience is here? 15year old school boys who will giggle at any mention of the words cum, dick and fuck? It's just a little immature by now. Yes, I admit that using some of it in the right context can be delightful, but you're just way overdoing it. Yes, Chow Yun Fat is a motherfucking badass. Say it once, you don't have to say it in every sentence. Amazing how you managed to tell us almost nothing about the actual story (except that it's "ntimate Fucked Up Royal Soap Opera stuff") or the supporting performances in this movie. Ephor is right, this isn't a review, it's a childish collection of curse words. You should know better by now.
Curse of the Golden Shower is more like it by Dazzler69	Jan 12th, 2007 06:23:39 AM
Had to say it!
he didn't specifically point out Gong Li's cleavage, by just pillow talk	Jan 12th, 2007 06:34:42 AM
just "Asian cleavage" in general. So I guess that means Gong's isn't more spectacular than anyone else's, or that means the overall quality of the fun bags is equal to Gong's. Plus throw in Fat and Ninjas and maybe, just maybe the cleavage puts it into the masterpiece category.
Snakes on a train,with ninjas!! by Snikkar124	Jan 12th, 2007 06:49:21 AM
Sounds like this one could be really good.Can`t wait to see some footage...
About bloody time Harry by DirkD13"	Jan 12th, 2007 06:55:53 AM
First review from you in ages. I am now so fucking amped up after reading that fucking motherfucking review that I just want to see badass black-cloaked ninja's fucking fighting Emporer Chow Yun-Hardnut with fuck-off huge scythes whilst gurt big asian titties wobble all over the shop. Fuck me this sounds so good, I'm going to attempt to lick my own balls. There will, however, be no cum fountains spraying from my ass. No film's THAT good
Style Over Substance by MonkeyManReturns	Jan 12th, 2007 07:06:25 AM
Hero - style over substance Flying Daggers - Style over substance Is this also going to do the same? Yes, there is beautiful fighting, yes there is beautiful acting, yes there is beautiful cleavage, but...but...is there a beautiful story? These big Chinese-HongKong movies suffer from the 'head up owns arse' style of film making...looking great - like a pretty painting with pretty colors - but ultimately, they are boring...Ninjas attacking? Not that excited. Ninjas are soooo 1986! Shoulin Monks - now they kick posterior!
All this cum talk by MonkeyManReturns	Jan 12th, 2007 07:14:25 AM
distracted me into spelling shaolin wrong...I'm afraid I keep well away from the stuff...my girl friend seems to enjoy the drink though...
Right. But there was a chick in this film right Harry? by Kizeesh	Jan 12th, 2007 07:15:36 AM
Not even a word about the most gorgeous Asian actress of all time?
now if only Kurt Thomas showed up in this by just pillow talk	Jan 12th, 2007 07:31:55 AM
and GYMKATA! all the ninjas, then we are talking! Monkeydude, you are right about those other films. But I will check this out when it's on DVD, even if it is style over substance.
Cum fountain from the arse?! by Cat_Corporation	Jan 12th, 2007 07:32:34 AM
For Pete's sake, Harry, that's just gross! You do know women log on to your site, right (me being one of 'em, for my sins)? BUT as a PS., you just got me really excited about a movie I feared would not live up to Zhang's previous efforts. Can't wait for this to hit the UK!
Cat_Corporation by MonkeyManReturns	Jan 12th, 2007 07:34:44 AM
I think you are beautiful. Lets see this movie together, what say you? Lets see if it gets us as excited as it got Harry...might be an interesting evening...heheheh
Can they stop making the same movie over and over? by Melnick666	Jan 12th, 2007 07:50:29 AM
This looks like a retread of every epic historical movie out of Hong Kong over the last 10 years. Hero, Flying Daggers, Crouching Tiger etc etc - they're morphing into one long, boring wire-fu mess.
Jesus vs. the Ninja by ye olde shiza	Jan 12th, 2007 07:58:34 AM
If Jesus were here, he'd be pretty upset about this review. Not only do I not trust that this movie was great and orgasmic ... mostly because of the numerous banner ads "Curse of the Golden Flower" has paid for from AICN, but also, this review just doesn't make me motivated. If you want cleavage, just go check out "Bandidas" with Selma Hayek and Penelope Cruz. It's out on video for all the ogling you'd ever need. It'd be nice to get a review that explored something about the movie a little more in-depth than its powerful ninjas or big titties. This site gets so many sneak-peaks at things I want to see and wastes those opportunities half the time by writing reviews that just suck.
w00t john cazale by white owl	Jan 12th, 2007 08:08:35 AM
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Jesus?! Hell, what would Brian Boytano do? by biggles2_22	Jan 12th, 2007 08:08:46 AM
I'm sure he'd kick an arse, or two.
Get Jizzy with it by Kentucky Colonel	Jan 12th, 2007 08:17:04 AM
Harry must have a "hair trigger", if you know what I mean. The only nuts I ever busted at a movie were confined to back seats at the drive in with my sweeties. You can't go wrong with chineese ninjas. Oh, Yoko...I'm never ever ever ever gonna let you go!! (J. Lennon)
GONG LI'S TIG OLE BITTIES ARE COOKIN THE BOOKS! by DOGSOUP	Jan 12th, 2007 08:17:38 AM
And by "Books" I mean our pants.
Abomination, I almost laughed my ass off by Mr Incredible	Jan 12th, 2007 08:31:44 AM
Man, that was funny. Harry, on the other hand: "You want to hop up on the screen and start licking the image"? Was that the time Gong Li and her magnicient visage (boobs) showed up? HENTAIGIOUS!
Good god, Harold. by Zarles	Jan 12th, 2007 08:32:11 AM
"...blowing your action jones so hard your ass becomes a cum fountain at the Bellagio." LO-motherfuckin'-L. My cum-gushing ass will be in a seat for this one this weekend for sure.
Maybe harry watched Blade 2 before this... by Kizeesh	Jan 12th, 2007 08:46:27 AM
just a thought.
CURSE OF THE GOLDEN CLEAVAGE by CelestialPudding	Jan 12th, 2007 08:52:24 AM
yup, Harry got so excited by ninjas and Chow Yun Fat's sexy eyes he forgot to mention the massive amount of steam buns in the palace walls. well those who want a more indept (wankier) review...read mine! hehe http://wensi.net/blog/2006/12/ 27/film-review-curse-of-the-go lden-flower-%e6%bb%a1%e5%9f%8e %e5%b0%bd%e5%b8%a6%e9%bb%84%e9 %87%91%e7%94%b2/
Henry - Balls of Fury by just pillow talk	Jan 12th, 2007 08:57:58 AM
Hmmm...maybe not. Breaking and Entering? Breach? I know what movie you are talking about, but can't remember the name.
HARRY THERE'S ONLY ONE REASON TO SEE THIS MOVIE by Deus Vult	Jan 12th, 2007 09:19:26 AM
And that's Gong Li's amazingly rare large Asian knockers. Her cleavage in those banners on your site is a thing of beauty. I could get lost in those things for days, weeks, months even. The worst part is I've been talking about them in previous posts for the past few days and it took you all this time to post a review? I know Austin is laid back pal but come on, we're talking about GONG LI'S HOOTERS HERE! in other news, what was with the cum out of the ass talk? that was awful, just plain awful. finally big BIG ups to DOGSOUP for his fantastic work with the newest catchphrase. See boys, that's how its done.
What about Gong Li? by Nerdboy1423	Jan 12th, 2007 09:20:29 AM
Wow, I saw this movie a month ago on a screener, you should somehow get invited into the academy. But that you see it this far into the season isn't what dissapointed me the most, it's that you completely forgot to mention Gong Li in another one of her most memorable performances. She isn't just "asian cleavage", and her performance here is suspenseful and heartbreaking. It's the heart of the movie, in a world that has no room for compassion.
HARRY! DON'T EAT THE SCREEN!!! by BirdMcMonster	Jan 12th, 2007 10:20:39 AM
(It doesn't taste good...trust me.)
About 600 new catchphrases in that AWESOME review by Doctor_Sin	Jan 12th, 2007 10:26:20 AM
Sounds boss, Harry! Thanks for the review. I am seeing this as soon as possible.
Super secret my ass by Seph_J	Jan 12th, 2007 10:30:09 AM
This has been out here for weeks. I saw it 3 times already. Harry, you are so behind.
this is not a good review... by Seph_J	Jan 12th, 2007 10:36:34 AM
... this is really a bad 'review'. Infact, this is the worst piece of 'writing' I've ever forced myself to read. It just gets worse and worse. Yimou deserves better Harry. Why dont you try reviewing it again.
Review.... MINOR SPOILERS by Seph_J	Jan 12th, 2007 10:45:53 AM
(I sent this in weeks ago, but it wasn't used. I'm not a literary genius, but I thought you all deserved to know more than the crap Harry gave us, so here it is...) The amount of times people compare EVERY Chinese film that gets released to 'Crouching Tiger' really pisses me off. They are NOT all cashing in, and they are NOT all poor imitations. Therefore, I will not mention that particular Ang Lee film by name again in this review. I do not spoil the film, but there are a few SMALL SPOILER details that follow. Quite rightly many people have mentioned that 'Golden Flower' is a very different film from Yimou's previous two. Whilst 'Hero' probably takes place on the grandest geographical scale, and 'Daggers' is essentially a love triangle, 'Golden Flower' is a closer relation to Feng Xiaogang's 'The Banquet' which was released earlier this year. Yimou obviously noticed the apparant lack of both pace and spectacle, from Xiaogang, and goes out of his way in 'Golden Flower' to mix some genuinely innovative fight choreography (including some awesome tarzan-guys, swinging on ropes) with a haunting familial drama, which takes place (similarly, yet less depressingly) within the walls of a royal palace. Zhang Ziyi's ruthless scheming bitch from 'The Banquet' is as shakespearean as any Lady Macbeth need be, yet here Gong Li expertly manages to retain the audiences sympathy despite being a traitor to the Emperor and having a relationship with her 'son' (albeit not her birth-son). Much has also been made of Jay Chou's casting in the role of... Prince Jai. And whilst his dialogue scenes dont convince (possibly because of my prior knowledge of his 'image'), Yimou is sensible enough to limit these scenes, instead allowing him to fight (rather well actually) and merely look cool most of the time. His casting here is actually a rather sensible move from Yimou. Never is Chou given an opportunity to ruin the movie, and indeed his character demands that he be a rather fearsome and charismatic leader, and regardless of whether you like his music or not, the fact that you know his name going into the movie allows him to fill this criteria with ease. The set design is spectacular, and the art department on this film is certainly my choice for an Oscar this year (if that means much), with the obvious yellow, gold and red literally allowing the screen to explode with colour. The stark mixture of blood-red and yellow in a scene towards the end of the film is a nice colour-coded bookend to the movies visually amazing opening scenes. When thought and detail such as this is placed in a film, it is stunning to see. For example there is an early scene which takes place on a circular terrace within the palace at which the entire imperial family congregates, where the placing of a square table inside a circular terrace and the meaning of this geometrical juxtaposition is explained. This symbolism (representing heaven) is a visual motif which I saw repeated in a number of designs and sets throughout the film. I think it is to Gong Li's credit that the camera is allowed to explore her lovely face in close-up many times in this film, especially as she is not as young as she once was. On the flip side to this, I would have liked to have seen more of Chow Yun Fats increasingly craggy face, which (due possibly to his beard) has developed even more in wisdom and mysticism since his incidents with the Green Destiny. Even in scenes where it appears the emperor is beaten, Chow Yun Fat manages to retain psychological control over everyone around him. And his golden belt (which also is at one point covered in the smatterings of red blood) is an awesome weapon, the damage which it inflicts being seen only after Yimou cuts away from it. What I feel 'The Banquet' lacked, was any action. I am aware that it was not an 'action' film, and apart from one scene in particular was devoid of fighting, yet I saw many opportunities within that film to really cut loose, and yet nothing ever came of it. The same can most definately NOT be said of 'Golden Flower'. The battle scenes in this film are rather damn original too, in that they take place within the walls of the imperial palace and yet still feature an army that is large enough and would feel quite at ease charging the black gates of Mordor. The glittering COLOUR of this army however, and the spectacular surrounding palacial environment can only be done justice on the big screen. There are a few breathtaking Peter Jackson shots, and some extremely inventive fighting ballet, courtesy of Jay Chou and his men, and some rather awesome scythe-swinging, courtesy of the tarzan-ninja-men-in black (though it was more impressive in the spider-man-esque gorge-swinging scene from the middle of the film). Shigeru Umebayashi's score is a powerfully dramatic choral work, which is about as different from 'House of Flying Daggers' and Wong Kar Wai's 'In The Mood For Love' and '2046' as is possible. Though at first I was a little startled by the sudden use of it during a static shot which is held on Gong Li's face, I came to see that it was an extremely important part of atmosphere, and creating a slightly unbalanced feel to the story, originating from the themes of gradual insanity (mentally unbalaned) and incest (balance within the family)..... balance being a key theme of this movie. Instead of one sip of poison, it is important to get the balance of the ingredients right, and the dosage right. Likewise the balance of power between the three sons becomes important in the second half of the movie... along with who can speak to the emperor harshly and who can't... when to punish and when not to. And if you thought the rebels celebrated hard on Coruscant, and the Ewoks put on a show on Endor, just wait till you see the fireworks that the emperor arranges to celebrate crysanthemum day. I was very relieved to see this film, as so often when I have high hopes going into a film, I often am disappointed, until at least I have watched the offending movie many times, and conned myself into believing I like it. With this film though, I need not bother conning myself. Aside from the battle scenes which deserve repeat viewings alone, there are so many small moments - the occasional outburst from the emperor, the slightest sweat on Gong Li's brow... Jay Chow's beard (!) which make this film a rarity.... a character piece, with a HUGE soldier-filled finale, in which Jay Chow triumphantly arrives with the cavalry. Whilst I believe a film should be taken as an individual piece, it seems that to recommend a film to someone these days it has become necessary to compare it to a mixture of two other films. Therefore, if you enjoyed 'The Banquet' (but thought it needed more action) and if you liked 'Hero' but wanted to see more heaving chinese-lady cleavage, then this film is about as enjoyable as it gets.
i cannot fucking wait by the_shogun_gunslinger	Jan 12th, 2007 11:05:53 AM
Yimou makes some of the most beautiful films ever. hope they show it at the Imax like HOFD...god that that was amazing. im gonna miss Zhang Ziyi tho :( but Gong Li should suffice ;)
Seph_J, thanks for the review by Mr Incredible	Jan 12th, 2007 11:21:36 AM
I had my doubts, but I may give it a try.
Hire Seph_J. He knows how to write. by Doctor_Sin	Jan 12th, 2007 11:57:48 AM
I liked Harry's review, but it was a given I'd see this anyway - he just got me pumped for what I was wanting. The better review is of course Seph_J's - who no doubt was not used because he's not a pal or insider or friend or whatever. Seph, Thanks for the info on the score - that was something else I was interested in.
Thanks Seph_J by DirkD13"	Jan 12th, 2007 12:15:12 PM
It's always nice to get a "proper" review, as well as a "geek" review.
brilliant by sokitome	Jan 12th, 2007 12:33:38 PM
i saw this movie a week ago and was amazed. I was expecting more kung fu like the advertisements here in LA are promoting it but what i found was shakespeare with kung fu. It's fucking brilliant. Yeah the first two acts have little action but the plot culminates and just explodes in the last act. excellent flick
he's just sore from sliding down that pole by just pillow talk	Jan 12th, 2007 12:33:57 PM
man needs a break!
ok, now with a couple of talkbackers by just pillow talk	Jan 12th, 2007 12:36:17 PM
giving it a thumbs up, I'll definitely see it.
Gong Li was in this movie. by CZ	Jan 12th, 2007 12:37:07 PM
She was by far the most interesting thing onscreen, and Harry somehow decides to write three paragraphs on ninjas. (Which any self-respecting Asia-phile knows is a Japanese term for cloaked assasin that doesn't belong to any description of a Chinese film) I thought the movie was moderately entertaining but fell short in the end, due in part to the over-the-top pageantry that Harry couldn't see past.
gotta disagree... by Jonesey1111	Jan 12th, 2007 12:37:24 PM
this was a very bad movie. very very bad
I miss the days of bad subtitles, though by Doctor_Sin	Jan 12th, 2007 12:45:53 PM
My ancient Hong Kong vhs collection still reeks of lines like "Eat the coffin mushroom" and shit like that.
Henry Jones... by TELF	Jan 12th, 2007 12:46:38 PM
It's called, fittingly, Stay. Directed by Bobcat from Police Academy. I saw Golden Flower and thought it was pretty poor to be honest. Amazing visuals, but very soapy, and a just a bit too silly. Preferred his other ones, but it is still worth seeing if you are a fan.
I've seen Bobcat's movie advertised as by zombieslayer	Jan 12th, 2007 01:19:09 PM
"Sleeping Dogs Lie" which is funnier. Wish we got a review of that one from these guys...
Some of best movies ever ... by ye olde shiza	Jan 12th, 2007 01:28:29 PM
Were the collection of old Wu-Tang videos I had when I was a kid. The subtitles on those movies made me laugh for hours. If anyone on here's been priveleged enough to watch "Secret of the Water Technique" with the hopping vampire, and the alien from another dimension, you can count yourself as one of the lucky few.
Oh Great! by jimmy_009	Jan 12th, 2007 01:33:51 PM
More ridiculous wire-fu! More 'poetic' imagery! More of the same old shit!
Wuxia needs wire-fu and soap opera by Doctor_Sin	Jan 12th, 2007 02:00:14 PM
How else can you have flying martial artists and an overly intricate plot full of melodrama? It's the genre - live with it.
Harry Is A Geek First; by georges garvaren	Jan 12th, 2007 03:58:26 PM
film buff second; writer third; amateur pornographer last. And when a Geek gets excited, especially if he happens to be a Geek who is known to review films with high notes of sexually explicit metaphors, then commonly only one outcome is often brought to pass: he is going to write a movie review. But remember Children, he is a Geek first and a writer third, precisely the reason why Harry's reviews can - how You say - contain "abundant amounts of pooply-poor structure and often masturbatingly repetitive with style.” but that does not mean that the review does not contain a somewhat logical explanation of why the film was worth the time it took to watch. You just have to swim your way through the angry waters of cinefile seaman and hopefully wash ashore on the crowded beaches of So, That Was Your Fucking Point. If you are a Geek, or think you may be coming down with a serious case of the Geekioitis, then cut the guy some fucking slack; he’s a little excitable. Or don't. Who cares, really (and don't you say Me because that would make you a real Cheese-fart.)
Cheadles Cheese-farts: The new afterschool snack. by Doctor_Sin	Jan 12th, 2007 04:06:53 PM
They make you GOTTA EAT.
Is this out already? by Johnno	Jan 12th, 2007 04:08:34 PM
Because I'm about ready to get up right now, walk out the door, and go straight to the theatre and see it!
Missed the first 30-45 minutes by matalo	Jan 12th, 2007 05:31:19 PM
*************HERE BE SPOILERS*********** So, did not understand the reason the first wife was so pissed. Nor was not sure if the Emperor was the hero or anti-hero. All in all, beautiful movie, story, fight scenes (albeit CGI obvious in come parts) Someone enlighten me?
Gong Li a goddess!! by Spender	Jan 12th, 2007 07:19:53 PM
The most beautiful woman in the world and the heart of this film and she does not get ONE mention Harry!!
Seph J by Spender	Jan 12th, 2007 07:29:13 PM
Seph J. the woman's lovely face? Lovely? Gong Li is Gorgeous!!! She looks about 28.
huh! by Aunryok	Jan 12th, 2007 07:44:55 PM
Gony Li was the best and most beautiful part of the film....again. Not CYF. Too bad GL will AGAIN be overlooked for an Oscar nom.
Gong Li rules! by Clio	Jan 12th, 2007 08:16:21 PM
I'm glad Harry was enthusiastic--this film deserves it, but come on, Harry, cool it on the pornographic descriptions--it's really juvenile. I just got back from seeing it---yep, greatness. But it is Gong Li who steals the show! Sure, Chow Yun Fat is "badass," but my God, Gong Li is magnificent. And no, there is no nudity in the movie--just low cut bodices. Don't miss this one!!
THIS MOVIE BLOWS ASS! by K_Darklighter	Jan 12th, 2007 09:34:29 PM
And Harry put together such an awesome top 10 list for 2006. Who sucked on Harry's cock during this screening? Okay, I saw this flick a few weeks ago and MAN was I disappointed! Zhang Yimou's HERO is possibly the best martial arts film ever. It is up there on the shelf with MASTER KILLER & THE 36TH CHAMBER, and FEARLESS. But after seeing the lame-ass water-sword-bouncing scene in HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS, I was like, okay, this director may be losing his touch. When I saw CURSE OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER I knew I was right. There's no fucking action! No martial arts! No swordplay! They bill this picture in the trailer as a really hyper kung-fu extravaganza. NOT SO! If you want to see Shakespeare in dynastic China, then by all means go see this. Incest, hokey acting, poor comedic timing, meandering subplots and absolutely NO ACTION whatsoever. That's what this film is all about. There is one brief swordfight in the beginning. Chow Yun Fat doesn't even get a chance to shine! Oh, and the Ninja Wraiths were just completely lame. They like scream and make these weird animalistic noises as they flail through the air on impossibly connected cables. The battle scene at the end doesn't even touch HERO, it looks like a really poor rendering job. Very cartoonish. And did I mention that there is hardly any martial arts to be seen in the film at all? Sure, the bright colors are nice, and it's really pretty, and the story isn't awful, but c'mon! Gimme some goddamn REAL BADASSERY. Fuck me, if this is what Harry thinks "Badass" is, he needs to rewatch ONG-BAK, IRON MONKEY, the LONEWOLF & CUB series and DISTRICT B-13. Save your money to buy Jet Li's FEARLESS on DVD. Much better use of your hard-earned funds. Unless, that is, you wanna see a bunch of pretty asian chicks running around with their tits pushed up. And a bunch of yellow flowers. And the same sequence of tea-serving like ten times. And this really bad actor who...aw hell, you get the picture. Don't let this review fool you. You have been warned by Mr. Darklighter. Just go to your local massage parlor.
I normally like to stick to bashing U.S. propaganda ... by Ringwearer9	Jan 12th, 2007 09:36:27 PM
... but come on, people. HERO, and this movie are glorifying the antics of a brutal dictator of long ago. He was brutal, but he united China (the basic message of HERO as well) and evil women conspired to make men weak and prevent his glorious and benificent plans. That's what HERO was about, and that's what this is about. Hey, it's all Chinese, so to us Westerners it's harmless exotic fantasy, but Mr. Yimou is the Leni Riefenstahl of the modern Chinese State. Nothing good ever comes from glorying the military might of the State, people.
what kind of a warning by Seph_J	Jan 12th, 2007 09:53:53 PM
is it to say "save your money... unless you like shakespeare". Shakespeare is no bad thing, darklighter. And this is not a shakespeare film, the plot is simply reminiscent of it. Clearly you didn't like 'The Banquet' then. Also, if you thought the trailer was inaccurate, dont watch the trailer again! But the film is what it is. And Ringwearer, comparing any filmmaker to Riefenstahl is a compliment :)
Shigeru Umebayashi by nemesisdarkside	Jan 12th, 2007 10:29:09 PM
Love his music. His music from In The Mood For Love still haunts me. I can listen to the extended version of "Yumeji's Theme" for hours.
THE REASON GONG LI DOESN'T GET ANY MENTION IS BECAUSE.. by Deus Vult	Jan 12th, 2007 10:47:57 PM
Harry lives in AUSTIN fellas, and if you're not from Texas, don't know no one in Austin or Texas, hadn't never been to Austin or Texas, or just generally don't know nothin' 'bout Austin or Texas, boys in Austin (like Harry) don't like girls who are hot with big knocks like Gong, they like tall, skinny, flat-chested, plain, pale, near-death looking, high as a kite, post-hippie punk new wave-secretly rich yet dressed like a bag lady-too indy for a sorority but still love good charlotte-kinda girls. HENCE, HARRY IGNORES THE BEST PART OF THIS MOVIE AND THE BANNER ADS FOR THE MOVIE ON HIS SITE WHICH IS GONG'S SWEET LARGE ASIAN TITS! now, us houston boys on the other hand, the city that invented breast implants by the way, LOVE GONG'S SWEET LARGE ASIAN TITS!!!!
SEPH_J LEMME HELP YA OUT THERE KILLER by Deus Vult	Jan 12th, 2007 10:53:17 PM
just a few days ago I was just like you but I believe "sledge hammer" helped me out...here's the deal...to insert a break in your reviews and posts, simply use < p > with no spaces b/w the p and the aight? it'll add a carriage return if that makes sense. now, although sledge wanted some bow-down style cred, I'll simply take $5 via paypal. lemme know when you want my id...
cheers dude.... by Seph_J	Jan 12th, 2007 11:01:23 PM
you are a true gentleman
Saw It At The Alamo @7:15 Tonight by VWantsRevenge	Jan 13th, 2007 01:28:36 AM
And it was awesome. Stunning to look at. The set design is brilliant and beautiful. Gong Li is fucking HOT, and it was so great to see Chow Yun Fat play EVIL. The film was so damn bitter and depressing, but when it kicked in with the fucking WAR it was INSANE. I wish I would have seen this last year because it would have made it on my Top 10 for sure. That was the closest thing to a Shakespearian tragedy I've seen in cinema that wasn't BASED on a Shakespeare film! God bless Zhang Yimou and all the cast and crew of one hell of a masterpiece.
I liked Hero, House of flying daggers was utter shit by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Jan 13th, 2007 01:59:19 AM
I hope this one is a return to form. And yeah the politics of hero did make me uncomfortable.
just came back from seeing it... by the_shogun_gunslinger	Jan 13th, 2007 03:49:00 AM
and yeah Harry, i thought the exact same thing...most beautiful film ever...the colors of this film and the insane ammount of detail was just breathtaking. just a fantastic piece of cinema. btw Judge Dredds Dirty Undies, if u thought HOFD was "utter shit" i'd love to know what u think makes a good movie because "Daggers" is fucking great and one of my all time faves
So you're telling me it's not a remake? by gotta_eat	Jan 13th, 2007 04:38:46 AM
Bullshit! We need more remakes, DAMMIT!
HAH! by streakerfreak1983	Jan 13th, 2007 09:07:55 AM
TomBodet- Harry said fuck you to you. Almost, but not quite as good as what happened with Ak-47 and Sly.
oh and about film releases by streakerfreak1983	Jan 13th, 2007 09:10:40 AM
yeah this is opening today here in Eugene, Oregon. But the one film that I want the most still is not here yet. In fact it is no where within 100 miles of me that I can find and that is Pan's Labrynth. What the fuck gives? I am getting really pissed off.
geez. by Aunryok	Jan 13th, 2007 09:50:26 AM
""And did I mention that there is hardly any martial arts to be seen in the film at all?"" It NOT a martial arts film!!!
Saw it two weeks ago - it sucked... by Ernie Souchak	Jan 13th, 2007 10:53:04 AM
The martial arts confrotnations and battles were shot well and looked great but the narrative was disappointing to say the least. It was meandering and did not seem to add up to much and had a ton of loose ends. The film is in not in ANY way like a Shakespearean history play - in structure, style, or tone - and to the poster above who said "That was the closest thing to a Shakespearian tragedy I've seen in cinema that wasn't BASED on a Shakespeare film!" I rest my case.
I'm telling you........ by Doc_Strange	Jan 13th, 2007 04:24:11 PM
If ninjas showed up in more action movies, the badass quotient would go up 100%. A good question is, how come we don't see any new ninja movies that aren't comedies? Hell, I have an idea for a futuristic ninja movie, kind of like Blade Runner but with more action, and kick ass ninjas. Who wouldn't want to see that?
GONG LI'S GOTTA EAT! by Kampbell-Kid	Jan 13th, 2007 09:39:43 PM
I am a sucker for the guilty pleasures that have come from Asia these days. Zhang Yimou's films just have that colorful flair that Akira Kurosawa had in his films so that is another draw to see this besides Gong Li, Chow, and the director. I think Gong was perhaps not mentioned because she has done better work than a glorified martial art flick.
streakerfreak1983 by the_shogun_gunslinger	Jan 14th, 2007 08:47:55 AM
patience...Pan's gets its wide release on friday :) been waiting for it too
To GEEZ... by K_Darklighter	Jan 14th, 2007 02:47:20 PM
You're right it isn't a martial arts film. Unfortunately, the West Coast ad campaign for the film did a really good job of tricking the moviegoing public into thinking it was a martial arts film. I think had I gone into the movie anticipating a Kurosawa film, I would've appreciated it more. I admit my posting was a bit harsh. I thought the film had merits, I just felt gypped.
saw it today... by Sir Loin	Jan 14th, 2007 08:47:57 PM
...and was blown away. It takes awhile to set up the entire plot, but it's worth the wait. Seriously...go see this on the bigscreen, don't wait for the DVD because it deserves to be seen on a HUGE screen with a good sound system. Gorgeous sets and wideshots, not to mention Gong Li looking absolutely stunning.
People who see the film as... by chaplinatemyshoe	Jan 14th, 2007 10:04:08 PM
glorifying a ruthless emperor don't get irony. I guess Shakespeare was pro Richard III, and Bruno Ganz played Hitler because the Fuher was a personal hero of his. OR maybe the movie was using the Chrysanthemum Festival as an ironic backdrop for a standard tragedy piece. I mean, overall, I thought the movie was weak compared to Hero or House of Flying Daggers (which feel more and more like companion pieces back to back with their mirror opposite views on human will vs. collective good), but it's still the kind of movie that Yimou seems to do better than anybody else right now.
Needs a Western director by Dazzler69	Jan 18th, 2007 06:36:39 AM
I thought the movie was very visually appealing but the story sucks and dragged. The fights were great but silly (the whole army gets mowed down by arrow fire). A Western director even Ang Lee would hash out a better and smoother story with a better ending than this. There was no surprise ending or it was too predictable at the end. Maybe that's what they like in the East?
dazzler 69 you racist twat by Seph_J	Jan 19th, 2007 10:47:18 AM
No surprise ending? oh no... must be a rubbish film! Moron. EVEN Ang Lee? why do you say EVEN? Ang Lee is a better director than you, you asshole. "Maybe that's what they like in the East?" What the fuck does that mean? go fuck yourself. Then die.
Screw Ball-and-Chain by vertigirl	Jan 22nd, 2007 01:55:47 AM
Sickle-and-Chain FOR THE WIN! And Gong Li's cleavage. And Chow Yun Fat's badassery. And rebellion scenes that are more massacre than battle. And one kick-ass review (thanks for the amusement Harry!) For the lose? Racial twats and haters!
The problem with the Shakespeare comparison by Tesarta	Feb 6th, 2007 01:47:58 PM
... is that there is a much better comparison to be made, and one which far more effectively explains why films like this have the complex and meandering plots that they have. Three Kingdoms (commonly known in the West as "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"). That one epic book is "China's Shakespeare" and a lot of the narrative devices and structures of Chinese cinema come from it. Meandering irrelevant subplots with multiple loose ends? Westerners would think so, yes, because we're used to a different style of storytelling. But once you read Three Kingdoms a lot of stylistic and narrative choices start to make much more sense.
best bitch-slap in Asian cinema HISTORY by captainCAPSLOCK	Feb 8th, 2007 08:31:07 PM
movie had some great cleavage, and the Emperor slapped his youngest _silly_ like a true pimp "KAPROW!" BUT the ending was hot garbage.
wicked yet graceful by ibbster	Mar 2nd, 2007 09:06:14 AM
curse of the golden flower is an amazing movie. chow yun fat is an amazing actor and has deleivered a spectacular preformance
Colorful Piece of Crap by curtis3martin	Mar 5th, 2007 02:23:36 PM
I saw Curse. I was SO dissapointed. It was beautiful, but also ridiculous. Just a big soap opera with some REALLY bad acting. People were laughing in the theater I saw it in. And the computer generated armies have become a parody of themselves. I can't decide if the thing sucked more because it was too stilted and stylized to be taken seriously as a drama, or because it wasn't stilted and stylized enough to be interesting in a Beijin Opera kind of way. Flying Daggers is the only successful film of Zhang Yimou's Crouching Tiger ripoff trilogy.
curtis3martin, I still read this talkback... by Seph_J	Mar 6th, 2007 05:40:25 AM
... so don't think you can write shit like that and get away with it. You are clearly a moron and I won't waste much of my time. First you contradict yourself. Did you think the film was 'stilted and stylized' or not? You say it was and it wasn't. Idiot. Also, how much 'Bejin Opera' have you seen? Enough to dismiss it as stilted? Im intrigued as to how many Beijing Opera's you have seen. 'Crouching Tiger Ripoff Trilogy'.... if you read my review, posted above some time ago, you will see how inaccurate it is. To an idiotic typical western tosser like yourself, I suppose any film with asians as the lead characters are all ripoff's of each other right? So 'Hero' is a ripoff of 'Ringu', and 'Curse' is a blatant ripoff of 'Seven Samurai'....right? You are a dick. You aren't quite as racist as Dazzler69, but the thoughts that your words imply certainly place you in the same category of fucktard. Enough.
Gerard Bulter to Star in the remake by DarfurOnTheRocks	Mar 29th, 2007 10:18:59 PM
seriously, there is no real solid resolution to this movie. The victory that Gong Li experiences is an act of defiance at the end of the movie. This is not a bad movie, it is just not a great one either...
awww, darfur.... did the final shot confuse you? by Seph_J	Mar 31st, 2007 02:36:23 AM
what a shame. I suppose every film needs to have a crane shot as the films hero walks away into the distance right? Any film without this comes into the 'no real solid resolution' category right. Mate, this film had a sold resolution. It is a great film.
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Hey, I'm sorry man.. by Quintus_Arrius	May 20th, 2007 03:12:17 PM
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I gladly accept. by Quintus_Arrius	May 21st, 2007 02:12:53 PM
Thanks for the invite. I was bored at home one day (recovering from illness) and decided to just cruise around and look at some archives. I was convinced I was the only one posting on old stories until I saw the mighty Orcus! Drives my wife up the wall sometimes although she is fascinated with how geeky we are. So where are you based? And who are the 'others' I should be looking out for? I am a Brit based in London so the 'zone' is beyond my understanding. What 'time zone' do you currently exist in? Hail the Conspicuous Time travelers! (Sounds like a good title of a geeky sci-fi movie)
do you get a card when you are in by just pillow talk	Aug 8th, 2007 06:43:06 AM
Time Travelers Society? :-) By the way, this movie was okay. I'd say my opinion of the movie falls somewhere between curtis3martin and Seph_J's. It was good but not great.

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