I waited to watch Season 5 all at once on DVD, and just finished yesterday. Thank goodness Day 6 is here or I'd be dying of anticipation.

HERC & Co. - is this 6.1 Jack Bauer kill on par with the "Adama Atmo-FTL Maneuver"? Cause I'm of the opinion that the ol' Admiral set the Gravitas Bar VERY high with that one. Cheers!

The last act of 6.04 was BRUTAL.

Not quite Battlestar brutal, yet, but let's see what happens if this keeps up over the season.

Jacks torture sessions reflect the current mindset except Jack seems to have a conscience. The sheer beauty of the show is it's chameleon like ability to be perceived as a right wing nut fest.

The biggest problem is most people do not appreciate the subtlety with which the various memes are presnted. Oil guys tried to kill the president. The president created a 911 event. Bad actors in the shadows maipulate the government. Jesus don't we read about this everyday?

The show is definitely a liberal slanted device.

SPOILERS - RUN AWAY ALREADY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!! I knew that that death was going to happen, given the demotion down the credit list, which telegraphed the fuck that it was going to be a bad day for that character, and probably sooner rather than later. Granted I didn't know how it was going to happen, but I knew it was going to happen, so they really should have been smarter than that, it would have had even more impact that way. They kind of shot themselves in the foot a bit there.

Still, regardless, episodes 1 and 4 were spectacular, and 2 & 3 were top notch 'filler' eps, so we're off to one hell of a start. The pain of waiting two weeks for the next episode begins...

http://www.theage.com.au/artic les/2002/08/29/1030508094456.h tml

"The show's liberal-left politics probably also appeal to Kiefer, given the radical backgrounds of his parents. His mother, the Canadian actress Shirley Douglas, is the daughter of Tommy Douglas, founder of Canada's New Democratic Party, first socialist premier of Saskatchewan and the father of Canada's Medicare program. Although Kiefer was born in London in 1966, where his unknown dad was eking out a living in interestingly titled movies like Die! Die! My Darling! and Dr Terror's House of Horrors, he grew up mainly in Toronto and Ottawa, where his politically active mother took him and his twin sister Rachel on their first demonstration aged six. He grew up with tear gas in his nostrils."

Keifer in the John Mclane of liberals. I bet he grew up singing Joe Hill and we shall overcome.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ article.cgi?file=/gate/archive /2005/11/30/cstillwell.DTL

OPINION: Mustn't See Liberal TV "Fox's "24" is the boldest of the bunch, going so far as to portray a Muslim family as a terrorist sleeper cell in last season's story line. But between star Kiefer Sutherland's politically correct public service announcements and the season's conclusion (which shifted the blame from jihadists onto Chinese diplomats and various Westerners), viewers hungry for true "reality television" were left disappointed once again. While the examples above are just a sampling of what's available on television today, there's more than enough thinly disguised propaganda out there to drive the point home. And audiences are taking notice. Eventually, declining viewership and escalating criticism may remind television producers that there's more to television than pushing a political agenda. Until that time comes, those who seek thought-provoking entertainment rather than indoctrination will just have to turn elsewhere. '

Right wingers think it's liberal. AND POLITICAL with it's own AGENDA!

To drive the point home

http://film.guardian.co.uk/int erview/interviewpages/0,,18117 46,00.html

"He describes his politics as 'liberal, with common sense'; his mother, actress Shirley Douglas, was the daughter of Tommy Douglas, leader of Canada's New Democratic party, 'the first socialist to come to power in North America', as Sutherland proudly describes him."

Only the stupid forget it is FAUX News that is rabidly a chariciture of a conservative image. Fix channel is consistently LIBERAL. Ever watch the Simpsons? Or damn near any hot steamy Fox sex show? Murdoch plays both side sofr maximum profit. It works for him.

The show is still great fun, just don't get too caught up in it, ok? It's just a show.

Anyway, those two things: One, Jack cradled Tony in his arms and was clearly crying and shaken by what had happened to Tony as that episode ended. And Two, I definitely noticed the fact that he didn't get a silent ending the way Edgar had in the end of that episode, but my theory on that is that Tony wasn't shown to be definitively dead until the start of the next episode so maybe they were trying to leave it as a cliffhanger "is he or isn't he really dead" type thing, and a lack of ticks would have betrayed that from having any hope of leaving anyone wondering if Tony wass really dead or not. And I do remember at the time some people weren't convinced that Tony was really dead after that episode aired (though gotta say he looked pretty damn dead to me, and if that was the reason, I don't think it worked very well). Just a thought anyhow.

p.s.- Unless you're referring to my other post, and you DON'T think that Curtis is a badass...

On another note, I only download things that I can't otherwise buy. I will get the S6 DVD set the moment it's streeted. Is it unethical to download the episodes before Fox wants them aired? Possibly, but since they're getting my money, and the fact that I'm advertising this show to everyone I talk to, I don't really feel sorry for them.

Why don't you try to discuss the topic at hand. If Herc is doing something wrong, and Fox has a problem with it, it will be handled between the two of them. You've got nothing to do with it.

The term is 'all rights reserved,' which means they CAN come down on pirates if they want. It doesn't mean that the FBI will be at my, or in theory Herc's, door tomorrow.

2) Weasel McWeasel advisor guy will be removed from office and replaced by the hardest working man in politics MIKE NOVIK.

3) Milo will be a mole, I mean his name is an anagram of moli, which is Italian for mole. OK, I made that up, but still, there is bound to be a mole and it can only be him or Chloe's ex-husband/current fuck-buddy.

4) Either Bill Buchanon or his wife will be endagered, and the other one will need to make a decision that places their life in jeopardy for the common good.

5) Audrey will show up and be kidnapped by terrorists within 2 hours of her arrival.

6)Ex-President Logan will have an important piece of information that could save thousands of lives, but is so damn evil that he will want something in return for it.

7) We will never find out what the "heavy price" Palmer paid for Jack's return, even though it is a great get out of jail back-up plan for later in the season.

8) We will also not find out what was really up with the bluetooth group/Logan evilness was really all about.

9)Herc will use the word 'cavorting' multiple times in his 24 posts this season.

10)Jack will have a break down and some point and give up on trying to stop the bad guys and go visit his dad, who runs a farm with talking pigs on it...