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Massawyrm Reviews SMOKIN' ACES!!

Foist by TheBlackKnight	Jan 3rd, 2007 10:42:51 AM
This movie is going to be spastic joy.
Oh God, Boondock Saints was awful by Franklin T Marmoset	Jan 3rd, 2007 10:43:36 AM
That said, I'm still looking forward to this one. Thanks for the review, Mr Wyrm.
POST-TARANTINO GOTTA EAT by Pound Sand	Jan 3rd, 2007 10:46:45 AM
I read this twice but I"m still not sure. So if I like Tarantino's stuff, then I won't like this? Is that right? Or is it the other way around...
hell yes by Buffalo500	Jan 3rd, 2007 10:49:25 AM
if it’s a cross between Scott, Avery & Tarantino I am most definitely there....
i'm sold... by Buzzsawlenny	Jan 3rd, 2007 10:50:15 AM
critics be damned...every film that previews doesn't have to be "the Godfather" some are just fun....and thats what this sounds like...i'm in
um, has nobody seen Blood, Guts, Bullets and Octane? by Jarek	Jan 3rd, 2007 10:51:56 AM
Everyone keeps referencing Narc and how Smoking Aces is a departure into new territory for Carnahan...... it simply isn't true. He made a pretty fun post-Tarantino flick before Narc called Blood, Guts, Bullets and Octane... all shot on 16mm, but way, way over the top and fun. Seek it out.
'Stick It' was very post-'Blue Crush' by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:10:57 AM
and V for Vendetta was very post-Kurt Wimmer.
Troy Duffy? by sevadro	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:13:40 AM
How does Troy Duffy get on any list of talented directors?
There's Post-Tarantino Gold and Post-Tarantino Crap. by Nice Marmot	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:14:06 AM
Everyone's got to judge for themselves. I've been put off by the previews so far. I've seen super-hip, I've seen violence for the sake of violence, I just haven't heard enough of the dialogue or humor. Will have to wait & see.
Anybody who puts Domino... by PwnedByStallone	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:25:08 AM
on the same shelf as Pulp Fiction sucks cock by choice, just like Massawyrm does.
Bjork's 3rd album was Post-Post by Spandau Belly	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:36:43 AM
and Boutros-Boutros Gali loved it!
Tom Sizemore needs more work! by kinghenryVIII	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:41:01 AM
As a bit character in True Romance, I loved the guy. And the Domino remark nails - chuggin' fucking cobb by choice - jeez - fucking thing gave me a head ache for a week. Man on Fire - the way it was shot - worked, but this shit was shit. "Ah, no, go back" "Ah, wait - jump forward" Give the camera to the EPILEPTIC. TELL THE FUCKING STORY ALREADY! I'll rent this.
Sounds bad by CherryValance	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:53:29 AM
As much as I love Affleck and Bateman I think I'll pass. Looks like another January of catching up on Oscar bait.
If this movie is half as cool as it's trailer.. by StovetopStuffin'	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:59:10 AM
Then I am so very much there! And Troy Duffy is indeed a very talented director/writer. Unfortunately he's also a complete prick from what we've seen in Overnight.
PwnedbySly ... by fenario80	Jan 3rd, 2007 12:00:24 PM
Ah, but you can be sure the reverse corollary is not true; i.e., not everyone who sucks cock would put that POS (or Boondock Saints, or KILLING ZOEY!?!, fer chrissakes) on the same shelf with Guy and Quentin. You be giving us cocksuckers a bad name here ...
it's a rental by just pillow talk	Jan 3rd, 2007 12:17:54 PM
I'll see it for what it's worth, hoping to catch some good shoot-outs/killings/funky characters.
King Henry by Massawyrm 1	Jan 3rd, 2007 12:57:30 PM
That editing wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Domino is a story being told by someone still tripping on Copious amounts of Mescaline, would it? It's an experimental action film - which is what I love about it.
Boondock Saints by DirkD13"	Jan 3rd, 2007 01:15:58 PM
Is that the film that was made by the nutter who got his head so far up his own ass that Harvey Weinstein removed it for him??
DOMINO = way underrated by Harry Weinstein	Jan 3rd, 2007 01:25:27 PM
I think it's the FREDDY GOT FINGERED of its particular year, where most of the audience simply didn't "get" what the filmmaker was going for, and critics were drooling for the chance to rip it to shreds. DOMINO takes Tony Scott's own addiction to digital editing tricks, contextualizes it inside a reasonable framework (lead character wasted on mescaline tells her story to the cops), and proceeds to go nuts with it. If anything I find DOMINO almost too restrained and low-key for what it's setting out to do.
Boondock Saints by Lando Griffin	Jan 3rd, 2007 01:37:23 PM
I attempted to watch that a couple weeks ago when it was on cable out of curiosity - I couldn't get past the terrible acting and changed the channel. What garbage.
I wouldn't put DOMINO on the same shelf as PULP FICTION by Harry Weinstein	Jan 3rd, 2007 01:37:41 PM
It goes on a different shelf with TIME & TIDE, TOO MANY WAYS TO BE #1, THE NEST, RUN LOLA RUN, JIANG HU: THE TRIAD ZONE (not to be confused with JIANG HU; if it's not THE TRIAD ZONE, you don't want it), and Guy Ritchie's REVOLVER.
Y'know by QuinnTheEskimo	Jan 3rd, 2007 02:17:49 PM
I love Tarantino films. I love all of them. And I think Smokin' Aces looks like fun. But can someone please explain to me why in the name of God so many people love the Boondock Saints. What a truly awful film. It's like something Tarantino would write if he had brain damage. It in no way deserves to be the cult classic that it is. Everybody loves this film and I don't fucking get it.
Boondock Saints by Bob of the Shire	Jan 3rd, 2007 02:27:36 PM
Terrible. Just terrible.
About the films on that shelf by BannedOnTheRun	Jan 3rd, 2007 02:57:26 PM
I'd put True Romance at the top, slightly above Pulp Fiction and way the hell above everything else. Tony Scott's one of the few directors who makes each punch looks like it really fuckin' hurts. See also The Last Boy Scout.
Re: Boondock Saints by Harry Weinstein	Jan 3rd, 2007 03:10:47 PM
No fucking clue as to why otherwise sensible people like this awful movie. Guess it's the Ron Jeremy factor.
TOM SIZEMORE GOTTA BEAT by BannedOnTheRun	Jan 3rd, 2007 03:26:04 PM
Heidi Fleiss. And don't forget Strange Days.
killing zoe? by carpemundus	Jan 3rd, 2007 04:18:14 PM
this is gonna be good, but killing zoe isnt in the same class as the rest of these. domino either www.carpemundus.com - there was a firefight!!!
God, by QuinnTheEskimo	Jan 3rd, 2007 05:41:04 PM
I really hate the Boondock Saints. It actually makes me angry. The fact that so many people love a movie that is so bad makes me want to put a gun in my mouth.
crayotic by the_shogun_gunslinger	Jan 3rd, 2007 07:00:56 PM
omg dude, i thought i was the only one who remembered Mean Guns haha and yes Boondock Saints is over-rated. Rocco is kinda funny and Dafoe makes me laugh but the action is meh smoking aces looks great...reminds me of a japanese flick called "Sharkskin Man and Peach Hip Girl"...check it out if u can find it
Boondock Saints sucked cock by choice.... by Jimmy Jazz	Jan 3rd, 2007 08:47:47 PM
God, what a smug piece of detritus thyat was. The favorable comparison to that piece of crap does nothing for me. But Domino was a sorely underrated film that I feel will be reapraised in the future. The favorable comparison to Smoking Aces piques my interest. SO there is that. Then there is the fact that Blood, Guts......and Narc kicked ass in their own special ways. The guy is batting 1000 in my back. I will be there opening weekend
Massawyrm reviews SMOKIN' ACES! by QuinnTheEskimo	Jan 3rd, 2007 09:37:11 PM
And evidently no one gives a shit. This is the smallest talkback I've ever seen. The other day when Herc said, "Don't write in this talkback" more people responded.
for the record by Vern	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:35:41 PM
From Massawyrm's list, I hated DOMINO, BOONDOCK SAINTS, SNATCH, and especially fucking DOMINO. Even without the most annoying editing of all time that movie would be garbage. I mean how do you make a movie about a real person who is a bounty hunter and the daughter of a movie star - and then you make it not about bounty hunting and it doesn't matter at all that she's the daughter of a movie star? Talk about a missed opportunity. (By the way, I hated NATURAL BORN KILLERS too but "it's a representation of our oversaturated media culture" is a better reason for that type of editing than "dude, she's on mescaline it's trippy.") Anyway, despite hating all those movies I did enjoy SMOKIN' ACES. It's not like Tarantino at all, it's like Guy Ritchie, but I think the characters have a little more resonance or something. Still, it's hugely flawed, especially in the end when they throw in the gratuitous plot twists and backstory. The moral of the story is, you don't have to like all these movies. Many reasonable people will hate this one while liking some of the other ones, others might enjoy this more than some of those. (Especially fucking DOMINO. Jesus, you people.)
"Not like Tarantino at all, it's like Guy Ritchie" by conniebrean1	Jan 3rd, 2007 11:44:06 PM
Ritchie just trys to be the English Tarantino. And fails. Also, Swept Away is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
For the record by Massawyrm 1	Jan 4th, 2007 02:17:35 AM
I don't even love all of the movies in the list. But those are the arguable Post-Tarantino "classics" - the ones that are loved and discussed and argued. And all referred to together. For everyone that loathes Boondock Saints to the core - there's a Saint in waiting ready to kick his ass. And for every, like, 20 Domino haters, there's one of us, standing here, getting yelled at by like, 20 people. And called douche bag. We get that alot really. Man do some people fucking hate Domino.
Boondock Saints truly does suck... by Junior Frenger	Jan 4th, 2007 02:27:07 AM
...things I'd rather not describe. Boondock Saints really does suck. I don't like some of the other movies mentioned, but I can understand the argument for why people like them. Boondock Saints? Not a fucking clue. That movie is a turd.
...or more to the point. by Junior Frenger	Jan 4th, 2007 02:31:26 AM
Tarantino could wipe his ass on a greasy paper bag and it would make a better script than Boondock Saints...and I think Tarantino is the most overhyped, overrated filmmaker alive!!!
Domino. Yes, I'm defending it. Sorry about that. by Franklin T Marmoset	Jan 4th, 2007 02:57:44 AM
I thought the whole point of Domino was that it was a subjective film where the story takes place very much in the mind of one character - Domino Hahvey (the bounty huntah). Maybe I'm rationalising, but I thought that was one of the few places that Tony Scott's jumpy, annoying style actually worked for the story. She exaggerates, she leaps around in time, she choses what to emphasise - for me, it captured her mindstate pretty well. It's still not a great film, but it doesn't deserve the kicking it gets.
Troy Duffy by Franklin T Marmoset	Jan 4th, 2007 02:59:37 AM
Far and away the best thing about Boondock Saints was that it gave the world the Overnight documentary. If, by some freak accident, I ever get handed everything I ever wanted on a plate, I am going to watch that film again six times so I know what not to do. Way to blow it, Mr Duffy.
Weird.... by Yommers	Jan 4th, 2007 03:11:46 AM
Because I do have all those great movies you mentioned on the same shelf, love them all, and yet this movie did absolutely nothing for me. The crazy gunfights were pretty entertaining sometimes, but most of the movie was pretty fucking dull for me. I guess I just felt like it was trying too hard to be high and insane. Sucks, I wanted to love it. The .50cal was pretty kickass though.
"like Snatch without the accent"........... by Big_Bubbaloola	Jan 4th, 2007 05:15:24 AM
And of course Aces has no accents at all!! Bloody Colonials!!! On the Boondock Saints issue, I have never seen that movie sitting on the rental shelf here in the UK. Was it ever released??
Big_Bubbaloola - Boondock Saints in the UK by Franklin T Marmoset	Jan 4th, 2007 05:41:05 AM
I rented Overnight, the documentary about Troy Duffy, from my local Blockbuster and Boondock Saints came with it as a bonus disc. BS is not a good film, but once you've watched Overnight (which I recommend), you pretty much have to watch the film, if only out of morbid curiosity.
How Domino could have been less terrible by Spandau Belly	Jan 4th, 2007 07:49:10 AM
I also found this film really annoying, but I think if they'd trimmed it down to 90 minutes it wouldn't have grated on people as much. Going past 2 hours? That's asking a lot when you've got a whizbang edit every half a second. I felt like I'd been in a blender when that movie ended. Just to be clear, I don't think I would ever have liked Domino, but I think it could've avoid such negative press with a by keeping it short.
Franklin - Thanks matey. I will seek it out. by Big_Bubbaloola	Jan 4th, 2007 10:35:57 AM
I have heard very good things about the documentary. Empire mag raved about it. Apparantly Duffy stiffed his god given opportunity rather spectacularly. I think the Empire reviewer actually wanted to nut punch Troy after watching it!!!!!!

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