Man, the pacing of those things... you can't top it. He can make a nothing scene like Bud talking to his boss at the strip club in Kill Bill 2 seem monumental. I think you're underrating him.

Of course you're not the only one. You people really think Jackie Brown is boring? Where do I find you people? I want you kids to sit down and watch just the scene where Samuel Jackson as Ordell Robie goes to Chris Tucker as Beaumont and convinces him to get in the trunk of his car. The way Beaumont knows not to do it but can't talk his way out of it. Just that one scene alone is better than 99% of the movies I've seen since that one came out. Please study it until you agree, thanks.

As for Tarantino not challenging himself enough, I don't think it's fair to say that when his last movie was Kill Bill. This guy is known for his dialogue, he comes out with a movie where the first trailer has one line in it and is a classic. Never did an action scene in his life, now he did two movies worth of classic kung fu fights. He shot in different countries and languages and expanded into a more fantastical world then he did in any of his other movies. Even threw in some animation. I think that counts as stretching.

I saw alot of posts above saying Kill Bill "sucks" and since this outrageous comment is not backed up by any arguments or full sentences I can only assume these people have a superior understanding of the universe and must be right. But personally if I had to pick one (well, two) movie from the last several years to take with me to hide out in a spiderhole or something, it would definitely be Kill Bill. I love the way he channels old school kung fu, spaghetti westerns, revenge movies and everything else so authentically, but then he elevates it so I really care about these operatic characters. The way she wakes up without her baby and it could be just a goofy scene but he makes you watch her cry for like a minute. The way she gets revenge on Vernita Green but has to do it in front of her daughter and knows some day the daughter will come after her. The classic moment at the end of "the Cruel Tutelage of Pei Mei" when you remember that she is still buried alive and realize how she's going to get out. The way volume 2 switches everything up and makes you like Bill. You're even charmed by him along with her when she's given him the death blow and they have a few last moments together. And then her crying tears of joy on the bathroom floor when "the lioness has rejoined her cub." Almost enough to make a grown man cry. Well, okay, I will have to take your word for it that it "sucks," but in every other respect it is a masterpiece.

p.s. fuck all you babies, not Roland though he is nice

p.p.s. I say that only in the spirit of elevating the level of debate here