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Sandman sounds like a good one
by chopstyx1
Dec 20th, 2006
05:15:53 PM
I've never read it before but it seems to be a good one to start with...
Seventy-Third!
by LuckyPierre
Dec 20th, 2006
05:24:50 PM
The Friday the 13th book really is worth checking out. I passed it up when I saw it last year and regreted it immediately. It sold out and I could only find it on eBay for obscene amounts. I got lucky and found a copy at the San Diego Comic Con for cover price. No self-respecting F13 fan should be without it!
some good stuff this year
by Bloo
Dec 20th, 2006
05:43:41 PM
some excellent stuff, can never go wrong with Eisner and McCloud and Buzz you're right give to those in need...FIRST...then to me
ahh, Sandman..
by Amy Chasing
Dec 20th, 2006
05:45:46 PM
Especially Brief Lives, Worlds End and The Dolls House. Magic stuff! Then there's always some Hellboy and BPRD for fun, Sin City for cool, and Clone Wars by Ostrander & Duursema for a look at how the prequels should have been.
I graduated from Spandex to Thinking with Sandman
by DOGSOUP
Dec 20th, 2006
05:50:49 PM
When I was 14 I'd collect 20 titles a month (including ANYTHING that started with "X"). After picking up The Sandman on a whim I dropped every other title and collected that alone. I never get tired of reading any storyline. There really IS a reason everyone loves it as much as I do, so if you haven't read it, do yourself a favor and start with 'Preludes and Nocturnes' and end with 'The Wake'.
Absolute New Frontier
by waggy
Dec 20th, 2006
05:52:23 PM
probably the most beautifully produced comic i've ever seen (with a great story to boot). it's a bit pricey, but i bet any comic fan would be overjoyed to find it under the tree
Don't buy the Alias Omnibus
by dtpena
Dec 20th, 2006
05:59:49 PM
I own it, that series is ubershit, some of the lamest reads I've ever had. The rest of Humprey Lee's list is 100% good stuff though.
Absolute Watchmen
by FakeTHulce
Dec 20th, 2006
06:13:49 PM
Why is this not anyone's list? My wife is going to give me this for Christmas...why do I know you ask, I bought it and gave it her to wrap up for me
superhero's not much of a geek, is he?
by chrth
Dec 20th, 2006
06:31:46 PM
Cavalier and Acrobat were both classes in Unearthed Arcana!
UNEARTHED ARCANA
by superhero
Dec 20th, 2006
06:47:09 PM
I knew someone was going to try and nail me with this one I KNEW IT!!!! Boy, did I call that sucker! But you, my dear chrth, are WRONG!!!! Yes, it's true that Cavalier and Acrobat both finally made their debut in UNEARTHED ARCANA but at the time the DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS cartoon began airing there was NO UNEARTHED ARCANA!!! It hadn't been published yet! So there! HAH! UNEARTHED ARCANA was published way after D & D began airing and the subclasses of Cavalier (Fighter/Paladin) and Acrobat (Thief) were brought into Dungeons & Dragons because of the show. NOT, I say NOT, the other way around! So while you are correct that those sub classes were in UNEARTHED ARCANA I was correct in recalling my initial reacion to both classes when they appeared on the D & D cartoon. SO! Because it is the holidays...we can both be right. But I must ask you...who's the Geek now, huh? HUH????
chopstyx1
by Killah_Mate
Dec 20th, 2006
08:45:46 PM
You're on the brink of making a very good decision. Buy Sandman and you WILL have happy holidays.
Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT...
by halcyonseven
Dec 20th, 2006
09:41:33 PM
Buy presents for your loved ones or children or friends. If you do you are an uncaring, horrible person. If you do not donate ALL the money you had planned to use to buy gifts you are an evil republican. This has been a message from SGRPWWOTFAMATD: Stupid Guilt-Ridden People Who Want Others To Feel As Miserable As They Do.
Ah, Christmassyness...
by loodabagel
Dec 20th, 2006
10:07:07 PM
Whoever recomended The Originals last year, thanks! I fondly remember the review saying "Give this to your emoboy friends." And I did. They wanted to read it willingly too. I didn't even have to force it on them. This year? I've been sacrificing puppies for alla those Absolute Editions, starting with Sandman. Man, I freakin' hate blow up shit.
superhero: my geek techniques are still greater
by chrth
Dec 21st, 2006
08:27:04 AM
iirc (and I may not be), all of the classes in Unearthed Arcana had previously appeared in Dragon Magazine, so while Unearthed Arcana was published later than the show (and yes, I did know that), the character classes existed before the show.
Ok, I'm definitely at least half right
by chrth
Dec 21st, 2006
08:37:43 AM
Cavalier class first appeared in Dragon Magazine in 4/83 (Ish 72). D&D the cartoon didn't debut until September of that same year.

Curious if that's coincidence, or if TPTB decided to introduce the Cavalier as a class knowing full well there would be one in the show.

Haven't found any info on Acrobat, though (mostly because my Google searches keep finding 'must use Adobe Acrobat' in the search terms).

Aha!
by chrth
Dec 21st, 2006
08:41:40 AM
Acrobat character class was part of the Entertainer Class in issue 69, January 1983. BAM!
Buzz yes.
by Zebtron A. Rama
Dec 21st, 2006
10:57:06 AM
I tip my hat to you.
Collected Works from IDW
by rengaw
Dec 21st, 2006
11:29:42 AM
In addition to the Dick Tracy collection mentiond by Prof Challenger, I also suggest the following collections from IDW: Volumes 1, 2, and 3 for both Doctor Solar and Magnus Robot Fighter. They even put out a new issue of Magnus Robot Fighter.
Dammed Dragon Magazine! Damn you!
by superhero
Dec 21st, 2006
11:48:11 AM
Well, I still stand by my reaction to the classes when the cartoon came out as they hadn't appeared in any of the main books and that's what me and my nerd friends were going by back in the day, mostly. But you, my dear chrth were initially wrong as well because you said they were in UNEARTHED ARCANA and you insinuated that that's where they came from. So, because, as I said, it's the holidays...we can both be right and wrong :O)
But then, chrth, my question becomes...
by superhero
Dec 21st, 2006
12:34:06 PM
When did the Dungeons and Dragons Cartoon actually go into production. Apparently, Gygax was heavily involved in the production of the D & D cartoon and who knows how long it took to write all of the scripts and actually put all of the episodes together? Especially since Saturday morning cartoon production took much longer back then than it does today. So, it could be that those classes were made for the show before the publication of thos articles in Dragon magazine...hmmmm....
I'm pretty sure that Cavalier and Acrobat
by Squashua
Dec 21st, 2006
01:46:45 PM
were made for the show. And then the classes were developed later; as someone with experience in the RPG industry, including the magazine portion, it was (and still is) fairly easy to get pretty much anything printed toot-sweet; adjusting a cartoon back then was a lengthy process. Cartoon before classes.

I played "Original" D&D, not what came to be "Advanced" D&D.
New Frontier is what I want the most this year.
by The Heathen
Dec 21st, 2006
03:02:31 PM
A lot. I've almost bought it for myself, but I'm holding out at least for the next couple of days. *crosses fingers*

superhero and chrth, I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but it's entertaining. chrth, hit me up with one of your Heroes multiple time line theories. Those are crazy fun man!

About Power Girl from last tb. I think looda was right about Thora Birch. ** http://tinyurl.com/yehznr ** The chick from Battlestar is the fanboy choice I'm afraid.
superhero: agreed. God bless us, everyone!
by chrth
Dec 21st, 2006
03:52:45 PM
"Cavalier and Acrobat were made for the show"
by chrth
Dec 21st, 2006
04:36:44 PM
I tend to agree. However, I find it interesting that the Acrobat class is actually a sub-class of the Entertainers. One would think they if Gygax et al. were going to be highlighting a new class in Dragon, they'd make it the primary focus of the article, rather than lump it in with other classes.

Also, Barbarian was new to Unearthed Arcana as well, right? Wonder what ish that class first appeared in?

Of course, I tend to think the only reason they made Eric a Cavalier in the first place was because the name 'Fighter' was so generic.

Yeah, Barbarian was new in Unearthed as well...
by superhero
Dec 21st, 2006
06:36:32 PM
I wish we could get in touch with Gary Gygax on this...are you out there Gygax??? Please inform the unwashed masses! What came first...the D & D Cartoon or the Dragon articles? chrth, superhero, and Squashua need to know!!!!
D&D Cartoon = TB Death
by The Heathen
Dec 22nd, 2006
12:14:47 PM
*zzzz* As do the holidays.

Speaking of which, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! To every Cog Smooch, @$$hole, honorary cogs, fellow tb'ers and even the trolls, er, troll - Jar Jar Maddox!!! Everyone, have a great time and peace be with you.

Namaste.
Talk about Cthulhu instead!
by Squashua
Dec 22nd, 2006
01:30:15 PM
This is Squashua, Wishing You Proper Astral Alignment for the Winter Solstice.
Word, Ambush Bug, word.
by magsweeto
Dec 23rd, 2006
06:15:34 PM
The first paragraph of Ambush Bug's Holiday Wish List is not only one entusiast's pipe dream but the intellectually disappointed, un-entertained, empty-pocketed buyer remorseful prayer of comic fans everywhere. It bears repeating..."Writers, you're trying too damn hard."
merry xmas my fellow cogs!
by blackthought
Dec 25th, 2006
01:02:20 PM
shigeru, psynapse, thayla, heathen, el vale, darth kal-el, turtle and our long lost but not forgotten cog, gus nukem...couldn't find a better bunch to lounge in a giant mansion while we ignore crime. 2007 will be the Year of the Cog. also merry xmas to the the a$$holes for bringing this column to us weekly(usually) so we may bitch and moan and throw praise about to those that make comics good, bad and most ugly(usually liefeld).
christmas
by Shigeru
Dec 25th, 2006
09:06:29 PM
yay.
well i trump you there psy...
by blackthought
Dec 26th, 2006
03:58:12 PM
add lots and lots of incurable pain and that is xmas...well actually that is my everyday haha. psy hop you are better by new years...we should have a cog new years bash next year. the mansion could use some debauchery.
Squasha, I'm late to this TB...
by Abin Sur
Dec 27th, 2006
09:58:50 AM
But I own the "Call of Cthulhu" DVD (in Glorious Mythoscope!), and for the budget they were working with, I have to say they did a damn good job with it. I shouldn't have watched the "Making of" portion though - the image of those fat naked men flogging themselves in front of the blue screen is forever seared into my poor brain...
might as well…
by The Heathen
Dec 29th, 2006
11:10:07 AM
LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
you thought so
by Shigeru
Dec 29th, 2006
12:55:52 PM
last, bitch.
And...
by stones_throw
Jan 1st, 2007
06:11:48 AM
last.
Call of Cthulhu - in Mythoscope!
by Squashua
Jan 2nd, 2007
09:00:21 AM
Right on, Abin! I love how they did the "falling into an angle" bit.
LAST!
by rock-me Amodeo
Nov 23rd, 2007
06:49:20 AM
heh heh heh...
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