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CBS Pitched A
New Animated TREK!!

If they had just kept Enterprise on the air! by chrth	Dec 15th, 2006 02:11:31 PM
sigh
150 Years? by sleepy holloway	Dec 15th, 2006 02:11:38 PM
I guess this means no animated T'Pol butt-crack
TOO SOON!!!!!!!!!!!! by Pageiv	Dec 15th, 2006 02:20:57 PM
150 years is nothing for a group of people that can travel through time so easily.
They should stick them in by veritasses	Dec 15th, 2006 02:37:10 PM
giant, flying, Gundam mecha robots.
Enterprise and animating Sci-Fi shows... by Nodwick	Dec 15th, 2006 02:39:01 PM
Chrth, I agree. If I were to every own a season of "Enterprise" on DvD, it would be the final one, minus the god-awful finale Berman & Braga shat out. They actually did 2-3 episode arcs, they were more grounded in sci-fi "reality" (i.e. less of the technobabble crap or black-box technology) and were so well-written that the weakest part of the show was the acting (I never cared for Bakula). As for animating Trek, the original series, warts and all, was worthwhile if only to see some of the "rejected" or "lost" scripts intended for the TV show. Plus, they got away with a lot of stuff I don't think would pass muster today (i.e. the Lucifer episode). Then again, we could wind up with something like the aborted "Stargate: Infinity," the opening of which can be viewed here: http://tinyurl.com/ya2k3w
Nodwick: Fully agree about the last season by chrth	Dec 15th, 2006 02:41:57 PM

so, um... slow news day? by TheBaxter	Dec 15th, 2006 02:42:04 PM
this'll never happen, so why bother?
CAPTAIN KIRK SPEAKS by captain_kirk	Dec 15th, 2006 02:48:00 PM
Actually, a TNG animated series, I think, would totally rock. Anyone else agree?
Crusher: The Traveler's Travels - The Animated Series by Fawst	Dec 15th, 2006 03:05:45 PM
Now that I'd watch. Wesley ruled.
The only ep of Enterprise I saw... by Fawst	Dec 15th, 2006 03:10:13 PM
Was the one with the sexless slave people. Ok, that sounds like a porno. The one with the people that weren't considered male or female and were sort of just there to use for reproduction I believe? Where that guy winds up convincing one that it is an individual with individual rights. It later killed itself because it couldn't handle the pressure or something. GREAT fucking episode. I never bothered to watch the show after that because a friend said that was easily the best ep he had seen and none of the others came close. Oh well. On a different subject, anyone else think that the TNG episode where they find the hologram recording of the ancient race that spread their DNA across the galaxy and essentially created all the different aliens (deep breath) should have been a two parter/cliffhanger season ender/beginning episode? Shit, it should have been the first movie.
I guess I'd just be offended by the time jump. by iamnicksaicnsn	Dec 15th, 2006 03:13:50 PM
At least TOS had a lot of continuity in TNG, and TOS had more movies coming out. This is more like, "ummm, let's just throw away everything we've done, try to give some bs back story on the website, and put the future of the 'Enterprise-(what, i guess it'd be like J now or maybe even in the double letters)' in the hands of some bs crew? I'd want to find out a little more on what happened to Voyager, the DS9 crew, and especially the TNG crew since they got shafted with such a horifically bad last flick. Plus, looking at the designs, the cartoon doesn't look that detailed. And why even go for a retro look? We already know what the future entails: a time-traveling Federation, which sounds awesome. Also, everything in TNG was based off of what had happened in relation to TOS, so there was even more continuity. I want more continuity god-dammit.
I didn't see by Fawst	Dec 15th, 2006 03:22:25 PM
Nemesis, the series finale of DS9, Voyager or Enterprise... so what's the deal with the time-travelling Federation?
read the description by oisin5199	Dec 15th, 2006 03:51:02 PM
looks like they're not 'throwing away everything' but rather building on political events in the various series (Romulan/Klingon/Vulcan stuff), even that omega particle stuff from Voyager (which, frankly, I don't remember). There'll be new characters, so no, you won't see what happens to the characters you know, but you have novels for that. Frankly, this does read like Roddenberry's Andromeda idea, but could be better than that series. Of course, I would have rather had the Buffy Animated Series that never went anywhere.
Star Trek is the next Vampires. by Nice Marmot	Dec 15th, 2006 03:52:10 PM
They will both always be back in movies, TV, books, etc. . .
Evil is always more fun. by veritasses	Dec 15th, 2006 04:00:59 PM
Since they've done the good guy Federation stuff to death, it might be interesting to see a series or movie from the Romulan's point of view. Maybe the rise to power of a young Romulan Capt with a bunch of political twists/betrayals, Coup d'etat etc. Otherwise, they should make it a serialized series with a 24 episode story arc about one of the major Trek wars from the begininng of the war to the final battle. The story arcs in the series were all interesting (borg, Q, jem heddar(sp?) etc). It's the episodes in between which have always sucked. Anyway, that's the type of twist I think the franchise needs in order for it to reboot successfully.
You don't remember Omega... by Billyeveryteen	Dec 15th, 2006 04:25:45 PM
'Cause it was lame.
Funny by skydemon	Dec 15th, 2006 04:27:11 PM
I remember when Enterprise was on the air, all the venom that was spat on it back in those days. Not hearing much of that now.
Not a bad idea by Heckles	Dec 15th, 2006 04:34:02 PM
I'd check it out. It already shows promise as long as the words 'Rick' and/or 'Berman' are not involved. This thing should get made. It baffles me how Paramount can be so stingy with the Trek license but they let that pile of dung 'Voyager' eek out lame episode after lame episode. I know it was the flagship, so to speak, of UPN but still. The last good Trek was Deep Space Nine and that was a long time ago.
Isn't this a rip-off of Robert Hewitt Wolfe's Trek idea by snowpuff	Dec 15th, 2006 05:01:00 PM
where the Federation has fallen, Vulcans have reverted back to savage violence and so on and so on..?
Can't see this working by Nabster	Dec 15th, 2006 05:41:04 PM
Dont get me wrong i will watch it, and probably enjoy it, but if a high profile, highly marketed live action Star Trek show with a prime time slot can't make it, what hope does an animated Trek show have. And what form would the animation take? 2D or 3D, I am willing to bet if this show ever takes off it will be some bull crap 3d animation .
150 years is a bit far for a cartoon by DarthDooku	Dec 15th, 2006 05:49:35 PM
i'd like to see a live-action show set 150 years in the future. But for a cartoon, not really.
Gross. by superninja	Dec 15th, 2006 05:50:37 PM
Away with anything that is not of TOS. The Next Generation and Co. are pure garbage! This is a chance to do what Enterprise was trying to do, except correctly.
I would rather watch an animated version of by superninja	Dec 15th, 2006 05:55:36 PM
Kirk, Spock and M'Ress singing "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" than anything with TNG crew. Have you guys gone back and actually watched any of this stuff? It is pure dreck and nothing more than weak philosophical ideas and characters bed hopping. The only Star Trek that ever was relevant was the Original Series. The writing on that show is Shakespeare compared to what came after it. Now, TNG crew were great animated, when it was called Gargoyles.
i hope this doesn't go through by DarthDooku	Dec 15th, 2006 06:01:47 PM
i really like the idea of a Star Trek series set 150 years in the future. But not under the circumstances described in that article. The whole Romulan War thing is cool, but that's been touched upon before. Any alpha quadrant war would be a bit boring, now that we've seen battles with Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians. i do like that everything's changed, and the Federation's not what we once knew. But i'd handle this whole 150 years in the future thing a bit differently. First off, don't spoil Star Trek history by creating a whole new era based on a cartoon. The Next Generation writers showed how to introduce Star Trek a century from where we last left it. Despite what most say, the Enterprise writers showed how to do it a hundred years back. But seriously, i love SW and i loved the SW: CW cartoons, but those cartoons simply supplemented the films, specifically AOTC and ROTS. They didn't reshape SW canon or anything. This cartoon has the potential to do that. i wish they will hold off on this. Wait till JJ Abrams's movie comes out. If it's successful in reviving Star Trek, then create a live-action series. Meanwhile, create a cartoon series, but not like this. Fill in the gaps of Enterprise. Or the original series. Or something. Not creating a new era based on web shorts.
What about a series about T'Pau and by superninja	Dec 15th, 2006 06:05:03 PM
her rise from Vulcan farmgirl to girl band pop star to diplomat?
"Herc needs a new pair of shoes." by Shermdawg	Dec 15th, 2006 06:21:22 PM
Um, after as much as I've posted, shouldn't you be the Imelda Marcos of AICN by now?
A Boy and His Sehlat by superninja	Dec 15th, 2006 06:33:06 PM
I-Chaya saves little Spock from falling down a well, makes Sybok think he has the Pon Farr, poops on T'Pring's doorstep, etc.
Speaking of which, when's the SNL talkback going up? by Shermdawg	Dec 15th, 2006 06:49:34 PM
Be there, or be square bitches!
When I said "Speaking of which", I was referring to... by Shermdawg	Dec 15th, 2006 06:55:20 PM
chicky's comment, not his title. I'd never disrespect Herc, because in like four years she'll be legal, and quite possibly a hottie. ;)
Enterprise was ass, and TNG was the best Trek, hoes. by iamnicksaicnsn	Dec 15th, 2006 08:48:41 PM
The writing on TNG and DS9 were top notch. Voyager had a couple of moments so it was mediocre at best, but at least it carried out the continuity. Enterprise was an abortion and should never have been made. We already had an established backstory, we didn't need to create a whole new history. Oh, and to explain the time travel thing, apparently in the future people can willy-nilly time-travel, and the Federation travels through time to correct people messing with the time stream. They talked about it a lot on Voyager. There's a whole Temporal Prime Directive and all sorts of other stuff.
uh... by werideatdusk	Dec 15th, 2006 10:26:20 PM
i dont know. i always felt Trek's strongest points were its character development and the more allegory/philosophy-heavy episodes. Unfortunately, a 6-minute cartoon would be the worst venue for these traits. We'll always have our TNG and DS9 dvd's.
Re: iamnicksaicnsn by Nodwick	Dec 15th, 2006 10:45:26 PM
TOS was the best? Try watching the first three seasons and say that. "Yesterday's Enterprise" was the best it got, pretty much, and then the show would often get bogged down in its own technobabble. DS9 started well, then blew the whole political intrigue and character development angle to ape Babylon 5. And Enterprise was an abortion, yet Voyager was only mediocre? What show were you watching? Voyager should have been an episodic show like "Lost" or "Battlestar Galactica," given its premise, yet it chose the old "nothing changes" cookie-cutter format of previous shows. Plus, it ruined the borg, aped a "Jurassic Park" movie for god's sake, and gave us effing "Neelix," a character I hate more than Jar-Jar Binks.
No by JediShaft	Dec 15th, 2006 10:49:04 PM
Try again.
crap by jedimindflayer	Dec 15th, 2006 10:59:42 PM
crapcrapcrapcrapcrapcrapcrapcr apcrapcrapcrapcrapcrapcrapcrap crapcrap are we crystal here, paramount?
missed the boat by jedimindflayer	Dec 15th, 2006 11:03:28 PM
paramount really blew it when they didn't pursue a series (movie or tv) involving sulu on the excelsior. maybe they can backtrack and do a series involving the schism within the federation (but never fully realized or followed up on) in insurrection
Nodwick, I agree... by rbatty024	Dec 15th, 2006 11:18:33 PM
Neelix is worse than Jar Jar. I thoroughly enjoyed the first three series, but Trek has been going downhill. They haven't done something new in ages.
missed the boat part 2 by Shermdawg	Dec 15th, 2006 11:42:45 PM
I always thouht a series based on Alan Ruck's character from Generations where he eventually went insane afer having Kirk "die" on his watch, an he periodically had conversations with James T. on a early version of the Holodeck. Time ges on, he slips further nd further into insanity, and eventually is replaced in the third season by his "number one" John Leguizamo. Yes, Luigi. br>And btw, cinnamon buns without raisins suck ass.
SN OF A BICH!!!! by Shermdawg	Dec 15th, 2006 11:52:40 PM
YOU SEE THAT??? YOU SEE THAT TITLE??? YOU SEE THAT LAST POT??? YOU SEE THE LAST SENTENCE WHERE I MEANT TO SAY "POST" AND IT CAME OUT "POT"? THIS IS THE RIDICULOUS BULLSHIT I'VE DEALT WITH EVER SINCE I'VE UPGRADED TO IE7!!! I'll ADMIT I FORGOT TO FINISH THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WITH "WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA", BUT, THE SKIPPED LETTERS AREN'T MY FAULT. NOPE, IT's IE7'S! IT FUCKIN' SKIPS LETTERS LIKE A MUTHA FUCKER!!! WTF??? WHY THE FUCK?! (Oh look, Sly's on Conan!) THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTS, EITHER I START C&P'ING THESE FUCKING THINGS BEFORE POSTING, OR I GIVE THE FINGER TO MICROSOFT AND GO WITH FIREFOX. /endrant
Yep, Nodwick. by superninja	Dec 16th, 2006 12:48:08 AM
Technobabble, followed by really weak philosophical arguements. The shipboard romance crap got very Mary Sue if you ask me. The whole thing started to play like bad fan fiction.
I recall a while back there was a photo going around by scrumdiddly	Dec 16th, 2006 01:15:38 AM
of a pile of shit with a BMW badge stuck to it and the caption, "you people will buy anything." That's what we need for Star Trek - a pile of shit with a Starfleet badge stuck to it. That would be the perfect response to these pathetic "if only they had kept Enterprise on the air" losers. You people would watch anything.
Darth's report on Imdb was 24 hours ago by arrangedletters	Dec 16th, 2006 01:56:15 AM
And that will attract the ladies like flies my man. Chicks are hot for the Trek tips.
THANK YOU MICHAEL BAY by skynetbauxi	Dec 16th, 2006 04:19:24 AM
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/ 1808716430/photo/970420325
Animated trek torture porn? by DerLanghaarige	Dec 16th, 2006 06:28:19 AM

Crap by Almost_Human	Dec 16th, 2006 06:51:58 AM
I expect crap.
Please, let it die already. by Mr Incredible	Dec 16th, 2006 10:44:12 AM
Paramount had their chance; they screwed up, and nobody cares anymore.
What sucks is that they keep going into the future... by ZeroCorpse	Dec 16th, 2006 11:47:23 AM
When the best Trek was always the original, followed by the Next Gen. Pushing past those two time periods is a formula for disaster, as they'll be constantly "remembering" the old captains and trying to tie in continuity that JUST ISN'T THERE.
this should be the next live action show. by yeah i'm a jerk!	Dec 16th, 2006 12:26:00 PM
seriously this is what the next show should have been after voyager. it was a mistake to make enterprise a prequel, and it didn't work. if cbs wants new animated product, then let's see one of the established properties translated into animation. tos, or tng would be great. i'm sure there are stories that could be told with both.
Enterprise Season 3 and 4 = Great Star Trek by DarthDooku	Dec 16th, 2006 01:06:13 PM
Seasons 3 and 4 of Enterprise were quite good. Season 4 especially, not counting the finale, was quality and bridged a lot of stuff with the other series, from the original series to Deep Space Nine. If only it started with that kind of quality, it may still be on today.
Battlestar Enterprise? by Jimmy Jazz	Dec 16th, 2006 01:51:55 PM
Hmmmm....Sounds dubious.
Would this kind of animated Trek be relevant? by Drath	Dec 16th, 2006 05:18:26 PM
I have nothing against the premise really. I think the negative comparisons to the new BSG are short sited. BSG is a direct response to how infuriatingly phony the Trek optimism had gotten in it's later years. A new Trek show should exist in just as dark a verse as BSG, but work for its optimism and persevere through hard choices that don't get easier just because the hour is almost over. Times have changed, we should have changed, and the way in which Trek presents its theme should change. I don't get that this is changing the inherent theme at all, just making it a more realistically hard road to get to it--the same way Deep Space Nine did. But my problem is, the old animated Trek brought back a classic in all it's golden glory. This is trying to do something completely new, and I'm not convinced most Trek fans would embrace it if they can dismiss it as "some cartoon." Even worse if its just little net episodes or something. I think something like that would only work if it renders familiar characters and ideas, not bold new ones in a familiar universe. Clone Wars would be a terrible model to follow because it didn't have to set up anything that the movie had not already set up first, and it also used familiar characters to boot. I wish them luck, but I'll bet if this happens it doesn't get to go all the way and in five years its fans will be writing fanzines about the lost love affairs of Captain Chase. Not that that'd be any different from what fans are doing for the other Trek shows now...
RE: Nodwick by iamnicksaicnsn	Dec 16th, 2006 06:07:31 PM
Yeah, i know the first three seasons were kinda goofy, they were still getting their bearings. But that doesn't mean there weren't good episodes and good writing points. Look at "Encounter at Farpoint," when Picard has Riker re-dock the Battle Section with the Saucer section manually. Picard's like "let's see what this mofo can do" and Riker's like "what? damn, I can beat this fucker" and BOOM, instant character development. Season 1 also had "Hide and Q," Counselor Troi's mom's introduction, Lore's intro, "The Arsenal of Freedom," "Skin of Evil," and "The Neutral Zone." Season 2 had "Elementary, Dear Data" with fuckin Moriarty, "A Matter of Honor," "Time Squared," "Q Who" introducing the Borg, and "The Emmissary." So you're saying you can't find good eps in the first three seasons? Not to mention the fact that the acting was top notch and head and shoulders above Enterprise. And as for Voyager, i at least say it was mediocre because it had a couple good episodes, and at least it furthered the continuity, even though it did castrate the Borg, among other travesties.
uhh.. by datachasm	Dec 16th, 2006 06:37:26 PM
my idea was thatsince the original actors are so old now, to make original series Trek with animation or somputer animation ala Starship Trooper... forget the other timelines for me, thanks!
things i want to see pt2 by jedimindflayer	Dec 16th, 2006 08:50:29 PM
1 eric cartman as starfleet officer..... 2 data being digitally replaced in all trek incarnations with twikki.... 3 mr t as a klingon....
Weak by proper	Dec 16th, 2006 09:05:37 PM
Just do a CGI series with stories by various ST novel writers with the original cast doing voices while they still can(bring in voice of Bender or whoever in to do a Scotty or McCoy impersonation) and off they go,ching ching.Whats next Buffy season 8 in comic form?? Oh hang on a minute........
Paramount… by Evil Chicken	Dec 16th, 2006 09:15:52 PM
Please, by all means make the next Trek movie. After that, consider the future. Set it after TNG and keep the theme of hope that Rodenbury captured. Hope, while being a four-letter word, should not be dismissed as easily as it has been in more recent incarnations of Star Trek. I don’t care if it’s set 150 years in the future or if it is a smaller crew patrolling the timeline while they explore the cosmos. The name “Enterprise” should endure. Oh yes, live action wouldn’t be too bad either. Thank you.
Intriguing by SWR 77	Dec 16th, 2006 10:48:00 PM
idea but Paramount will screw it up.
George Takei has said..... by tjrmusic	Dec 17th, 2006 12:13:49 AM
.........that doing another animated Star Trek series set during the original 5 year mission would be the way to go. Everyone wants the original crew. Most of the actors are still alive and able to do it. The characters of Scotty and McCoy could be done by other actors/voice impersonators. I think that he's right on the money with this. Just do them as hour long episodes this time and with good animation. Every Trek fan both die hard and casual would watch this, so there is a huge audience for this.
That "hope" was grounded in decent philosophical by superninja	Dec 17th, 2006 12:35:22 AM
ideas that were promptly jettisoned for New Age pap when TNG came out. The OS was optimistic in terms of Earth men moving beyond their nature and the wonder of exploration, but in actuality, the show reflects that the more things change, the more things stay the same. Which is what I think makes it work - it's honest. TNG was not.
BLAH by the_shogun_gunslinger	Dec 17th, 2006 06:56:32 AM
didnt Trek wear out its welcome after TNG went off the air...cmon, if you tell me you actually were able to watch DS9 and Voyager you're a filthy liar. why am i posting this? i fucking hate Trek, LAWLZZZZZZZZZZZ..sorry, i must be tired
thanks darth by jedimindflayer	Dec 17th, 2006 07:31:04 AM
couldn't have done it without your assist! trek actually started croaking sometime during the ds9 regime; berman and braga were either unwilling or unable to 'close the deal' in regards to the foundation war and the schism it opened up in starfleet. they totally bailed on it and gave us jeri ryan instead.
Toon by Alientoast	Dec 17th, 2006 10:37:29 AM
I approve of this cartoon if we get SOME DS9 love in it. Odo, Prophet Sisko, SOMETHING. The relaunch book series rocks but I'd love to see something on ye olde TV.
Hey, OT, but where can I get "24" seasons cheap? by IAmJack'sUserID	Dec 17th, 2006 11:01:37 AM
Just started watching the show. Want to get caught up before next season.
Firefox? IE7? Anything??? by Uncle Clay	Dec 17th, 2006 11:06:43 AM
Hey Shermdawg, Firefox is much better than IE7, but it still kinda sucks. It's a little buggy, and doesn't really do all the groovy shit that it pretends to do. Wish there was a better alternative though.
Old animated series - Star Trek by Johnny Kovac	Dec 17th, 2006 01:53:32 PM
The late-great Jimmy Doo-han (Scotty) did all the voices. THe guys was the best vocal impersonator since Mel Blanc. Doo-Han is now being sprinkled throughout the atmosphere with Gene "Mean Gene" Roddenberry on current shuttle flight. George Takkei cracks me up. He takes a lot of abuse now because of his honesty about his being open. i saw him on this shantner roast and he was taking a lot of abuse
i want by aaron0matic	Dec 18th, 2006 08:33:44 PM
a treck show were 7 of 9 and Data come together and make a Master Race and Spartan 117 has to murder them all to save yoda and Han from Vader and Mace Windo...becuse you kno thats what money dose to people it mkaes them want to make crap and to bath naked in it. and i want money...now...
The premise isn't bad. by kabong	Dec 18th, 2006 10:31:56 PM
It might help if writers know they want the word "perpetrated," not "perpetuated." I won't object to this series. I'm not going to watch Trek cartoons, but the rest of you may.
Nodwick: "Stargate: Infinity" by mbeemer	Dec 19th, 2006 11:58:15 AM
I knew there was a reason why I was uneasy about this! The sketch of Lt. Donal reminded me of the character designs from S:I. (They might actually have been OK if they hadn't been done so cheaply in the final product.)
P.S. If a gritty sci-fi universe is what... by mbeemer	Dec 19th, 2006 12:00:04 PM
...audiences wanted, "Firefly" would not have gone down the tubes so easily. Bitches. (So rry, the bitterness just welled up again all'a the sudden.)
Firefly tanked because... by Kid Z	Dec 19th, 2006 03:30:35 PM
... no goddamn aliens! And of course because a science fiction/western is a lame-ass idea!
Firefly tanked because captain of ship by kabong	Dec 19th, 2006 04:49:04 PM
was giving lecture at the dinner table about respecting the ship's whore. Somebody in the crew should have put the zap on that policically correct sermonizer, banged the bitch and thrown both corpses out an airlock.
The "grit" on Firefly was so carefully placed... by Childe Roland	Dec 19th, 2006 05:21:51 PM
...it could hardly be called grit anymore. The show was sacchrine sweet most of the time and indulged the gee-whiz fun fantasy element far more than a show about space pirates should have. Even the ship's whore was a lady tot he manner born. Don't get me wrong, it was fun to watch most of the time, but it never felt gritty or dirty or even remotely real. It was well constructed but obviously constructed and, therefore, less impactful. And the very predictably scripted nature of Whedon's character interactions and dialogue didn't help the suspension of disbelief any.
You gave up too easily. Bitches. by mbeemer	Dec 20th, 2006 10:00:11 AM
The 'grit' in Firefly would have really come into play in seeing the seedy underbelly of the Alliance and the lengths it would have gone to to get to the Tams.

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