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First by Boba Feet	Dec 3rd, 2006 03:33:23 PM
Dude.
Eh by PMonkeyReclaimed	Dec 3rd, 2006 03:39:52 PM
Maybe this one will be better. Here's hoping.
Um, Spoiler Alert by georges garvaren	Dec 3rd, 2006 03:40:10 PM
That is cause for my geese to bump.
Helena Bonham Carter! by pokadoo	Dec 3rd, 2006 03:42:25 PM
Hot Goth!
I don't know... by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:01:32 PM
...I'm a fairly consistent proponent of the 'Harry Potter' series, but this "sense of dread" sounds like a bunch of hot air. That's the tone Mike Newell promised the last film would convey, and I didn't get that impression at all. Maybe it's just because I've read the books, but Voldemort's resurrection didn't seem nearly as important as I thought it should have. Which isn't to say I don't have respect for Newell as a filmmaker, I just think a combination of the way the films have been executed up to this point and the medium of film itself makes it harder to evoke that feeling. If this movie manages to pull it off, I'll be pleasantly surprised. On another note, the 'Harry Potter' marathon is on ABC Family right now. Anybody looking to acquaint themselves with the series can still catch the last two films.
...Spoiler Alert - Are you serious? by Fleet	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:17:38 PM
What part of "Series of HARRY POTTER: ORDER OF THE PHOENIX features airs on ABC and now YouTube and AICN!!!" do you think WOULDN'T be giving away spoilers...
second the spoiler arlert... by mattyholmes	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:22:38 PM
come on guys, sort it out. www.obsessedwithfilm.com
There aren't any spoilers by caltsoudas	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:30:38 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about. There's no spoilers anywhere in those clips. The only spoiler I could spot is that you get a VERY QUICK glimpse of a sertain 'someone' approaching Bellatrix and Harry from behind in one of those clips. This film looks like it will turn out great. Helena Bonhamcarter has done a brilliant job with the demented/sexy Bellatrix LeStrange. That shot where she sticks out her tongue after shooting a spell says it all. Umbridge seems a bit of a let down to me. It just seems like Imelda Staunton is playing Imelda Staunton (but wearing pink). She hasn't bothered changing her voice to a more annoying high pitched tone like the character in the book. She looks perfect for the part though. Luna isn't how I imagined her at all, but I like this version too, I guess. She seems more like a spaced out flower child than the comically eccentric, slightly abrasive girl I imagined from reading the book.
The 3 Leads... by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:37:56 PM
...Daniel Radcliffe is given a lot of guff for being a mediocre actors. Maybe that's true, but I think he's probably delivered the most consistently solid work throughout the series up to this point. Watson was pretty good in 'Chamber of Secrets' and 'Prisoner of Azkaban,' but then she was completely over-the-top in 'Goblet of Fire.' And not in a "teenage girls have hormones!" way, but an "every line sounds like the climax of a Shakespearean soliloquy" way. Rupert is funny; he knows it and he plays it up, and that's probably good for Ron, but I'm not sure how good his dramatic chops are. Either way, all three are capable. I actually thought the kid who gave the best performance in 'Goblet' was whoever it is that plays Neville though. And I don't really know why I'm saying any of this. Anyhoo...
Huwhoops! by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:40:14 PM
"a mediocre actors." B'oh.
What I have to say... by Orionsangels	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:44:38 PM
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What I have to say... by Orionsangels	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:44:39 PM
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What I have to say... by Orionsangels	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:44:42 PM
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Speaking of b'oh... by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:47:48 PM
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I used to like Potter by livingwater	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:49:54 PM
now I find it boring, this was depressing, they shouldn't show behind the scenes footage, it just spoils the movie illusion. WB should release the trailers only: same with the DVD: too much extra information about "behind the scenes" detracts. I prefer insightful interviews are interesting.
I know harry wears the john lennon glasses but... by Orionsangels	Dec 3rd, 2006 04:51:56 PM
does he need a yoko ono as well?
Hmm... by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 05:10:47 PM
A quadruple post AND a broken link? I like your style, Orionsangels.
nice one ribbons by mmm_free_wig	Dec 3rd, 2006 05:14:39 PM
I respect your usage of b'oh.. worthy of an entry in websters.
Spoiler alert: there are books about these movies by purplemonkeydw	Dec 3rd, 2006 05:21:39 PM
Watch out! Is it me, or does Gary Oldham look exactly like he did in Dracula? Luna Lovegood is dead on, and I'm excited to hear that there will be thestrals!
Radcliffe a bad actor? by I Own You	Dec 3rd, 2006 05:23:06 PM
Did you see him in 'Extras'?
Too soon! by Cruel_Kingdom	Dec 3rd, 2006 05:31:03 PM
Really.
HARRY POTTER: AN ORDER OF DRAGON AND PHOENIX by TheRealDilbert27	Dec 3rd, 2006 05:49:19 PM
i love shrimp and chicken
It's a shame it's just 55 minutes by rivercb	Dec 3rd, 2006 06:12:33 PM
Not gay enough! More wand please.
How unimaginably sick of "Harry Potter" do you by CreasyBear	Dec 3rd, 2006 06:26:21 PM
imagine these three kids have to be by now, especially knowing they have two more to go?
"Not gay enough... more wand please!" by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 06:28:36 PM
Okay... 1) written by a woman, and 2) spoken by someone who probably adores those lightsaber movies. All fanboys are dorks. Beating up on a franchise you're not familiar with won't change that.
It's great at only 16 years old by Mgmax	Dec 3rd, 2006 07:18:52 PM
He can spout the usual actor interview bullshit-- "He's a hero but he's also incredibly human," yadda yadda.
snape kills dumbledore by roccotheripper	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:00:58 PM
oops
Tonks is the Sex by DOGSOUP	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:05:05 PM
MMMMmmmmmmTonks.
rocco by Ribbons	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:05:40 PM
What the hell are you talking about, dude?
rocco the "what" is as interesting as the "why' by DOGSOUP	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:10:35 PM
So you may think you're some kind of malcontent troll warrior spoiling things to fans you think are stupid, but in reality by now most everyone knows this and those who don't may feel spoiled until they see understand why it happened. In conclusion Natalia Tena as Tonks is the sex.
On second though... by onemanarmy	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:29:48 PM
Wolf:ET comes to mind for some strange reason.
Dracula pwns Sirius Black... by onemanarmy	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:30:00 PM
...but it's good to see Oldman in a villan role again. Purplemonkeydishwasher...I know you from somewhere. Weird.
Thought* by onemanarmy	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:30:59 PM
And wtfbbqsauce...my posts are all bass akwards.
onemanarmy have you seen these movies or read the books by DOGSOUP	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:40:22 PM
??? Sirius Black is no villain. Oops, I spoiled the Prizoner of Azkaban for one person out there....
This will be the best of the five, without a doubt by performingmonkey	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:41:56 PM
All of J.K. Rowling's best writing is in Order Of The Phoenix. Now obviously they can't put all that onscreen, but this is definitely THE movie that everyone will look back on and respect the most in terms of story and character (unless they hit Half-Blood Prince out the park, of course, but the story itself for that one isn't as good). Daniel Radcliffe has improved with each movie and now here is his real test. I don't think people give him the credit he deserves actually.
Dogsoup.... by onemanarmy	Dec 3rd, 2006 08:59:03 PM
Nooooooooooo! I hate you! You ruined it!!! Nah, I'm kidding. I read the first 3. After that I jumped back into reading the Dark Tower series again for some reason. He may not be a villain, but they do a pretty good job making him seem like one in the first couple of films. I'll still see the movie though, so no harm done. 8)
wow by drave117	Dec 3rd, 2006 09:17:00 PM
Okay, when I first saw pictures of Luna, I thought she looked a little too normal, but I have to say her voice is absolutely perfect. She sounds EXACTLY like the voice that she has in my head. Spoooooky.
I read them all... by justcheckin	Dec 3rd, 2006 09:25:28 PM
so, there really is no spoiler except to see how the movie conveys the book. I am looking forward to it.
Damn You BCS! by S-Mart shopper	Dec 3rd, 2006 09:34:37 PM
Florida sucks!
stoked by jedimindflayer	Dec 3rd, 2006 09:42:09 PM
totally stoked for #5; easily the best book of the bunch thus far, and i'm really looking forward to how it translates to film. kinda bummed tho- my fave part of 4 is the fred/george plotline that concludes in 5; #4 movie never addressed it, and i'm afraid i'll never see the all-time best scene in 5 play out on the screen (especially since we never got a chance to see rik mayalls' peeves). ah well.
oh! dogsoup... by jedimindflayer	Dec 3rd, 2006 09:46:21 PM
would you be kind enough to put up a link to a photo of this natalia tena? i'd like to see if she is as masturbatory as you claim. personally, helena fits my mold a bit better... too bad shes' got tim burton germs
looks good by oisin5199	Dec 3rd, 2006 11:37:04 PM
all the teen actors seem to have great natural voices. My hunch is that Yates may be one of the first Potter directors that might actually let them use those voices, and not in that 'over the top' way that someone else described. I agree Luna's is fantastic (and you gotta dig Cho's Scottish). They all seem like really great personalities, that I'm hoping to see on the screen more. I think Yates might be the one to finally pull that off.
Gary Oldman is perfect! by W3bzpinn3r	Dec 3rd, 2006 11:55:50 PM
First time I read the books, I thought of Oldman for either Remus Lupin or Sirius Black. And after seeing him in "Azkaban" and the clips of "Order", he is just as perfect on film as he was in my head. I'm not a Potter fanboy, but I have enjoyed the films and books, and I look forward to seeing Alan Rickman be one slithery evil SOB in "Half-Blood Prince"
Behold Jedi :TONKS by DOGSOUP	Dec 4th, 2006 12:01:44 AM
I do have a think for purple-haired girls though. I'm not disagreeing, HBC is way hot, I have always thought so but for some reason I'm totally in love. Natalia Tena as Tonks is the sex. http://tinyurl.com/yz6mnz
Wow nef by Ribbons	Dec 4th, 2006 12:24:17 AM
You are so awesome. Can you teach me how to be a total dick for the sake of it too? By the way, anything of substance to add to the conversation? No? Okay, just checking.
Luna Speaks! by Saluki	Dec 4th, 2006 12:40:53 AM
Wow, Luna Lovegood (is that a James Bond name, or what?) speaks and she sounds... Freakin' BEYOND perfect. She actually talks in the tone. Amazing. Having HBC is always a major plus too!
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Dec 4th, 2006 01:31:08 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
Cool by sith-vol	Dec 4th, 2006 02:17:37 AM
Best thing I've seen on AICN in ages.
Ribbons by DocPazuzu	Dec 4th, 2006 02:44:45 AM
I'm totally with you on the acting judgment -- especially regarding the kid who plays Neville. This is especially important since I have a firm belief that Mr. Longbottom is the true unsung hero of the series, with the deepest background tragedy, and that he'll have an enormously decisive role to play in the final showdown.
The third one good!! by Kristian66	Dec 4th, 2006 05:26:52 AM
The rest are pants. Hopefully this will change that, but it really seems like more of the same. They almost make you a tad embaressed to be English.
ONEMANARMY by Frijole	Dec 4th, 2006 06:53:15 AM
I don't understand what you're talking about? Setting him up in the first three books? The third book/ film is the first one that he's even mentioned in. He is set up at the beginning as a villain, but revealed as nothing of the sort by the end of the book/ movie. So if you'd seen the first three movies or read the first three books you'd know this.
I agree, all the actors are getting better by Novaman5000	Dec 4th, 2006 11:32:30 AM
Though Watson was a bit much in the last movie, I think she has the most potential of the three in terms of acting ability. It's a shame there's rumors that she may not finish out the series on the last two films... I hope that's just hardball contract negotiations. I absolutely HATE recasting, plus I think she'd be throwing away a really great opportunity to complete a pretty solid film series.
Can't wait for this one. by butnugget	Dec 4th, 2006 11:56:01 AM
And did you see Venom at the end??? AWSOME!
Thestrals! by pandabait	Dec 4th, 2006 11:56:58 AM
Can't wait. And I agree with Novaman5000: recasting at this stage would be awful. Plus, you know she'd only end up kicking herself later if she didn't complete the whole series. Avoid being old and bitter Emma; see these films through.
NOVAMAN by Frijole	Dec 4th, 2006 12:28:18 PM
Yeah... They've come this far. Why stop now? Honestly as long as the series is completed by the time they're all 21 or so (which it should be) then I see no reason for any of the three leads to walk. And if it's a money issue, I honestly think that WB should give them all WHATEVER they want... They're getting a bargain having stars (and face it, the kids ARE stars now) that come so cheap... and the box office effect that could come from replacing them would be huge compared to the 2 or 3 million a piece it would take to keep them all in the game.
"the entire concept just popped into rowiling's head" by performingmonkey	Dec 4th, 2006 03:17:24 PM
No, it wasn't the ENTIRE concept, the idea she came up with on the train was a boy who didn't know he was a wizard going on a train to a wizards' school, it just grew from there. You'd have to be stupid to think every single detail just came to her.
"lotr, star wars, books of magic" by Finklestone	Dec 4th, 2006 03:21:50 PM
I'm not a big Harry Potter fan, but I must admit I do love watching the insecure fanboys of other franchises pouting their lips and chucking their teddies out of the pram because they feel its huge success somehow diminishes their own personal favourite franchise.
Bacci40, have you read the books? by Novaman5000	Dec 4th, 2006 03:33:27 PM
Two major MAJOR characters have died so far, as well as a few secondary characters. With more to come before it's all over.
frijole- they're like 16-17 now by Novaman5000	Dec 4th, 2006 03:47:18 PM
in 4 years the series should be over, they'll be rich enough to never work again if they didn't want to AND they'll have a massive, famous cinematic 7-part series under their belts. I think they're crazy for even considering getting outta there.
Bacci40 by Ribbons	Dec 4th, 2006 03:49:53 PM
For someone who allegedly doesn't give a shit about Harry Potter, you're always in these TalkBacks running your mouth. It's simultaneously annoying and amusing, because you obviously have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Please direct us to more fantasy series where characters actually die.
Sanpe's definitely in it by quadrupletree	Dec 4th, 2006 04:56:45 PM
He teaches Harry some new skills to keep Voldemort out of his mind. It's integral to the story so they have to have it in there. Don't know about Hagrid though. This looks great so far, can't wait to see this one!
anchorite by Ribbons	Dec 4th, 2006 06:04:11 PM
He's in it for at least a little bit, because Grawp is in it too. So he'll have to introduce/deal with him a little. I saw a short clip on HBO's making-of special where he goes "Grawpy! Bad boy!"
CASTING by ROBE	Dec 5th, 2006 06:48:27 AM
The actors cast so far is one thing the movies have got right. The only real dud of an actor cast has been Michael Gambon as Dumbledore, they should have gone for Peter O'Toole.
Peter O'Toole is too old... by Frijole	Dec 5th, 2006 07:33:23 AM
...and they'd be at a higher of risk losing another Dumbledore mid-stream with him. And Nova... Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Oh, and if Coltrane... by Frijole	Dec 5th, 2006 07:35:54 AM
is bitching about the length of the series, then he's nuts. I guarantee he doesn't have to work on each movie more than 2-3 weeks. So that's 2-3 weeks of work every 14-15 months... a fat paycheck... and he gets to be beloved forever as a fan favorite in one of the most successful film series of all time. Yeah, I'd be bitching too... pfft I love Coltrane, so I hope that isn't the case.
Good point Frijole... by ROBE	Dec 5th, 2006 09:13:54 AM
...but are you saying Gambon was a good choice?
GAMBON by Frijole	Dec 5th, 2006 09:18:17 AM
I think Michael Gambon is a great actor. I don't think he's the best Dumbledore... but he's not BAD... and certainly doesn't ruin the movies he's in (for me, at least... I know some disagree). There are aspects of his Dumbledore that I like far more than Harris's and other aspects that don't really "do it" for me.
Gambon by J.B.M.A.	Dec 5th, 2006 01:56:40 PM
Have to admit that I've been deeply underwhelmed by the performances of both Harris and Gambon as Dumbledore. I always thought that what made the character most fun as Rowling wrote him was his veil of eccentricity - a barmy old codger who enjoys boiled sweets and can sometimes be found wandering the corridors of Hogwarts at night looking for the loo - only revealing his true power when needed. What we've had so far is not actually bad, but not terribly interesting either. Can't understand the need for the terrible haircuts on the kids in the new film, grow it back I say! I thought Goblet was the best adaptation so far, Mike Newell finally nailed Rowlings humour and the English boarding school stuff that has so eluded other directors. I must say I'm surprised that so many consider this book to be the best of the bunch. For me it was easily the poorest of the novels with a terrible spongey plot and some truely shocking writing, and yet managed to be twice as long as most of them. It needed some serious editing, and so will the film as a result.
Gambon by Ribbons	Dec 5th, 2006 02:32:23 PM
I think Gambon is a testament to why it's important to read the books if you're involved with these movies. He gave a very good performance in 'Goblet of Fire,' but he just wasn't Dumbledore. As he refuses to read any of the books out of principle and possibly a little laziness (he thinks that an actor's performance should only be informed by the script), I can see how he would've made the decisions he did. But Dumbledore is not supposed to be as emotional as he was. In some ways I think it botches certain moments that happen later on in the series. That said, I like the fact that he's more sprightly than Harris. I can't imagine what a battle with Voldemort would've looked like were he still Dumbledore.
Humor in 'Goblet of Fire' by Ribbons	Dec 5th, 2006 02:51:00 PM
Even though I have more problems with 'Goblet of Fire' than I do with probably any of the adaptations since 'Sorcerer's Stone,' I do have to give it credit for being the first genuinely (intentionally) funny installment of the series. Character interaction, outside of the immediate Ron/Harry/Hermione thing, was sort of neglected in the other three films, so it was nice to see that so much of the humor came from just being able to spend time with some of the auxiliary characters. Fred and George finally got a decent amount of time, for example, which I hope bodes well for the fifth film since they're due to factor in to the goings-on quite a bit. I also like that we spent more time than usual with Hagrid, Neville, and Ginny, especially since the last two become important later on in the series (as DocPazuzu has mentioned). Although curiously, we saw very little of Snape and Karkaroff, even though I found their subplot in "GoF" to be one of the most interesting.
DUMBLEDORE'S EMOTIONS... by Frijole	Dec 5th, 2006 03:31:44 PM
Actually I didn't find that out of character at all... and when re-reading the book found more than one passage that had others describing him as more emotional and "on edge" than they'd ever seen him before. I don't get a lot of the freaks on the IMDB Potter boards that really think Dumbledore should be forever docile (though I know that isn;t what you were implying). I think the eccentric,seemingly frail kooky character that suddenly whips out the asskickery was ruined by Yoda though...
Frijole by Ribbons	Dec 5th, 2006 07:09:12 PM
Yeah, actually the future moment I was referring to was when Dumbledore cries at the end of 'OotP.' I have no problem with a perturbed Dumbledore, but slightly more poised would've been nice. I think the fact that Gambon already ran the gamut in terms of emotional expressions means that the moment won't seem as significant as it did in the book.
Ribbons by J.B.M.A.	Dec 6th, 2006 11:05:01 AM
Interesting that you had issues with Goblets adaptation. I found 'Prisoner' to be the problem movie for me. The film-makers mauled what should've been the easiest and scariest book to bring to the screen. I loathed it. Everyone else seems to love it...

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