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I just used the T.A.R.D.I.S... by Billyeveryteen	Dec 1st, 2006 12:04:37 AM
To be First.
So does Torchwood still suck? by Alonzo Mosely	Dec 1st, 2006 01:28:48 AM
I watched the first four and they were horrible, wondered if it got any better...
Touch wood by mulberry	Dec 1st, 2006 02:25:21 AM
Torchwood still gives the impression that its main target audience is chubby, middle aged welsh gay men with a lifelong interest in sci-fi. There are the beginnings of suggestions of a series story arc. Main problem is that the episodes themselves are badly paced (slow first 35 mins, then rush to resolution), with cringeworthy dialogue and little in the way of interesting characters. The endings seem to revolve around suddenly concocting an out-of-context 'will this mean I am as bad as the enemy I am fighting' moral dilemma, which usually split the team jack vs the rest, he shouts a bit, tells them he's right and dispatches baddy of week. No team cohesion, or any sense that the Torchwood organisation is anything but a bunch of over-funded incompetents. In wales. Aliesbian last week was good.
Torturewood by kwisatzhaderach	Dec 1st, 2006 03:10:05 AM
It's one of the worst pieces of television i've seen in my life. Really. I'm not exaggerating. It is woeful.
If its so bad Lemming by themanlikedave	Dec 1st, 2006 05:10:55 AM
why do you and you taff mates still watch it every week?
lemming and mulberry.. by batjack	Dec 1st, 2006 05:13:30 AM
... what they said! I'm also from Cardiff.. right in Torchwood ground central ...and I spend most Thursday nights in the pub with the boys taking the piss out of it. What it seems to me is, that its unfinished; it always needs another draught, and that it seems more to be based around the gay sex theme than the actual supposed thriller / sf elements of the show. It's a shame as the show has so much potential. The viewing figures are huge (must be all those bloody repeats) so it's bound to be picked up. Gotta go: they're filming Dr Who down the road so I've got to move my car. Nos da.
Aliesbian by mulberry	Dec 1st, 2006 05:21:49 AM
In case I was unclear: Aliesbian=Alien Lesbian. Sounds OK when said, looks stupid written down. (I hereby copyright the word)
Okay, this has turned into a torchwood talkbalk ... by Dalius	Dec 1st, 2006 08:56:36 AM
... so here's my two-pennies worth : Overall, I think it's a fun series with some great dialogue and some clever sci-fi ideas. In terms of implementation though, some episodes work better than others. My one complaint is that when they said each episode would give one of the characters a chance to come to the fore, what they meant was each episode would give one of the characters a chance to overact shamefully. Gwen especially seems to have got the wide-eyed rabbit-caught-in-headlights look down perfect. The writers also seem to have set themselves a challenge to see how many perfect innocent same-sex kisses they can get in 13 episodes. Doing well so far !!! P.S. Nice interview Gaspode !
loved this two-parter... by lynxpro	Dec 1st, 2006 11:05:53 AM
Although it isn't really Alien or Aliens...more like a mix between The Prince of Darkness and Event Horizon with some touches of The Black Hole. SciFi should have shown the two-parter as a movie on Halloween.
TorchWould by Smashing	Dec 1st, 2006 11:41:00 AM
I love Torchwood, it is funny and a little subversive, all the detractors have admitted they still watch so what does that say about them?
Smashing by mulberry	Dec 1st, 2006 11:55:37 AM
that we're really desperate.
Dalius by Thomas Cromwell	Dec 1st, 2006 12:01:49 PM
I agree with you about the stupid amount of homosexual references/kisses/shags/ in the show. Philoctetes (or was it Maria?) in that last episode would have worked just as well as a man and Gwen didn't need to snog that girl in episode 2. Its probably in RTD's contract as exec producer (if there isn't any gay references I'm off boyo) But still, at least Torchwood is better than Robin Hood with its silly costumes and anachronistic chracters (black nuns and Arab women in 1192 England)
Thomas Cromwell by batjack	Dec 1st, 2006 01:37:41 PM
Actually there probably were Black nuns and Arab women in the UK in those times: Crusaders married Arab women on their travels and Black people were here at least six hundred years before the bloody Anglo Saxons.. But anyway, Robin Hood is indeed, shit. Am I the only one who thinks that Gisborne would have been a much better Robin (and Actor) than the yoof they picked?
batjack by Thomas Cromwell	Dec 1st, 2006 02:49:16 PM
Sir, I stand corrected on England's multicultural history, and yes Richard Armitage is a good actor. He was excellent alongside Shirley Henderson in 'Frozen' (best recent film to be made in Britain)
Not interested in Torchwood! by skydemon	Dec 1st, 2006 03:20:58 PM
Sounds like crap to me. The Impossible Planet was an excellent chapter, I can’t wait for the second part tonight. One little gripe, what the hell with this Doctor Who series DVD sets priced in the stratosphere??
"The Satan Pit" -- **** (out of 5) by SpyGuy	Dec 1st, 2006 03:42:23 PM
Although Sci Fi earns even more demerits for interrupting a two-parter with a cheesy TV movie on Thanksgiving, "The Satan Pit" is well worth the wait. Sadly, next week brings the unholy abomination called "Love & Monsters," so do yourself a favor and watch your SPACED or LIFE ON MARS bootleg DVDs instead. You'll be glad you did.
disagree with Spyguy... by lynxpro	Dec 1st, 2006 05:39:27 PM
If you have a TiVo, record next week's episode and/or have your TV on next week but don't feel like you have to watch it. The ratings need to stay up. But yeah, episodes 10 and 11 suck. 12 and 13 which are the two-part season finale rock. In fact, they rock so hard that you forget RTD penned them.
As everyone is answering my questions... by Alonzo Mosely	Dec 1st, 2006 07:41:13 PM
When does series 2 of Life on Mars start showing on British TV? SO I can be ready to fire up the old torrentmobile...
TomBodet is a tool... by lynxpro	Dec 2nd, 2006 02:40:23 PM
Really, do you watch any of these shows or do you continue to spout your defective opinions instead? Go back to watching VR-5, ya gimp.
Alonzo... by slapshot	Dec 2nd, 2006 03:22:19 PM
I've got Life on Mars Series 2 on order from Amazon UK with a release date of March 19. Assuming the same 8 episodes as before, it'll have to be on the air Feb. at the latest. Anyone know if Torchwood or Who Series 3 has been picked up by the SciFi channel? Be kinda nice to get the next Christmas special on Christmas here, as opposed to next October or whatever... (And don't believe the haters: "Love and Monsters" is a GREAT episode. Unless you hate ELO...)
Thanks Slapshot by Alonzo Mosely	Dec 2nd, 2006 04:07:35 PM
Me and the old woman enjoyed the hell out of the first season of Life on Mars... Me especially, as a Brit relocated to Yank Land, it brought back fond memories of watching The Sweeney as a kid... Git yer trousers on, your nicked my son...
"He (Torchwood) runs through a door"? by SpyGuy	Dec 2nd, 2006 10:23:31 PM
Of COURSE he does. See, kids, TomBodet is a prime example of why you shouldn't do drugs. If you get stoned, you'll fuck somebody and TomBodet will be the result in nine months. Remember, friends don't let friends create retard babies like TomBodet.
Tom Bidet-The One Trick Pony by Kenny8	Dec 4th, 2006 03:58:18 AM
Too fuckin lame for words
Who author Craig Hinton dies... by Finklestone	Dec 4th, 2006 09:51:24 AM
... his books were crap though, so it's no big loss really.
Torchwood will probably end up on BBCA... by lynxpro	Dec 4th, 2006 11:32:32 AM
I don't know how many episodes of Afterlife were made, but I can definitely see Torchwood being sandwiched inbetween Doctor Who and Hex for BBC America's "Scifi Saturday" programming block. Wha, nobody is mentioning that Patrick Stewart's The 11th Hour premieres tonight (Monday) on BBCA here in the States?
The 11th Hour by Finklestone	Dec 4th, 2006 11:42:10 AM
The 11th Hour was sadly pretty awful - not Torchwood awful, obviously, but awful all the same.
stay tuned... by lynxpro	Dec 5th, 2006 01:43:02 PM
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday rock. You can skip the two episodes inbetween, but if you are a Nielsen family member or have a TiVo, set the TiVo to record the next skippable episodes but keep your tv on (and turned on by your TiVo's remote control). That way it will report that you watched them [live]. The show needs ratings/aggregate viewing data.
Complete Alien Ripoff by P2H	Dec 5th, 2006 04:49:53 PM
I liked a lot about this episode, but it was a complete rip-off from the movie Alien. The monster picking them off one by one. The tunnel sequence - even with the commander directing them and the Ood chasing...WTF was that? Also anyone happen to notice that the Ood were a complete ripoff from Dungeons & Dragons Mindflayers. Just sayin'. But I still liked some of what they did here. I really do wish all Dr. Who were two 1 hour shows each week, so we can watch a complete story rather than a rushed one.
P2H by lynxpro	Dec 6th, 2006 06:41:34 PM
If you thought it ripped off Alien, then you need to turn in your movie geek credential card. Its closer to Event Horizon and The Prince of Darkness than it ever comes close to being Alien. Geez.
Alien?? by Kenny8	Dec 6th, 2006 06:47:04 PM
Yeah, much closer to "Event Horizon", to be sure...and like Alien wasn't "influenced" by anything. "monster picking them off one by one" was hardly original in "Alien" In fact Doctor Who covered that forty years ago.
Picking of one by one by Kamikaze Skeleton	Dec 7th, 2006 03:30:11 AM
...not just Alien doing it 30 years ago, Doctor who doing it 40 years ago, The creature form the black lagoon did it 50 years ago. People getting picked off one by one is pretty much ubiquitious through the history of scary stories. And they've been around as long as we've had society. So don't go around with the heavy ahdned "ripp off" stick smacking a show around that doesn't deserve a rip off smacking.

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