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ScoreKeeper Reviews Danny Elfman's CHARLOTTE'S WEB Score!!

hack by spidercoz	Nov 30th, 2006 10:51:06 AM
the only music he's done that doesn't sound like everything else he's ever done is the Simpsons
Excuse me while I play the grand piano by Mister Man	Nov 30th, 2006 11:07:39 AM
Chill with the adjectives, Mellifluous Man.
[Insert "Elfman's a hack" posts here] by Osmosis Jones	Nov 30th, 2006 11:08:09 AM
Who would you idiots rather be listening to, Steve Jablonsky?
Elfman is not a hack... by Seph_J	Nov 30th, 2006 11:25:30 AM
... you morons. He wrote the greatest superhero themes of all time with Batman. And, its good that scorekeeper is constantly writing about worthwhile interesting things on this site... unlike many others. Keep it up dude. Elfman will be sorely missed on Spidey 3, as will John Dykstra. I pray these two holes will not be too massive.
PLANT!! by SPECT	Nov 30th, 2006 12:52:26 PM
Just add water.
Why do people hate Elfman again?! by HyperKnight23	Nov 30th, 2006 01:03:26 PM
I mean some of his music is really redundant but it's still pretty good.
NO ELFMAN ON SPIDEY 3 by TheRealDilbert27	Nov 30th, 2006 01:18:18 PM
Equals flames on Optimus.
No Joke... by Frijole	Nov 30th, 2006 01:19:26 PM
After BATMAN and PEEWEE'S BIG ADVENTURE, my favorite Elfman score is the one for BACK TO SCHOOL.
okay by spidercoz	Nov 30th, 2006 01:47:11 PM
Oingo-boingo...nuff said
His scores don't sound the same. by DerLanghaarige	Nov 30th, 2006 02:07:28 PM
He has a recognizable style (that you can even hear in the Simpsons-Theme!), but John Williams got that too. BTW: Best Elfman-score = Beetlejuice!
ONLY Elfman score = Beetlejuice! by ZeroCorpse	Nov 30th, 2006 02:47:00 PM
Everything else is a copy of that one score.
scorekeeper you heard about Shirley Walker? by mikey mike	Nov 30th, 2006 04:36:15 PM
we're losing so many masters it's depressing. nice review btw, If I were you I wouldn't have reviewed it. you know the kids will only talk trash about it. to them Zimmer and his synthesized repetitive garbage is what constitutes as real music
I think the hatred for Elfman comes from Spidey 2 by mikey mike	Nov 30th, 2006 04:38:30 PM
people think the repeats of music from the first movie was his choice. I guess they don't know that he wrote a lot of music but was cut out because it wasn't close enough to the temp music.
'Midnight Run' FTW by Det. John Kimble	Nov 30th, 2006 05:05:04 PM
Yep, that's an Elfman score. And it roxxors.
How can anyone say Elfman is a hack? by SithMenace	Nov 30th, 2006 05:36:47 PM
Just listen to his soundtracks in chronological order to see (hear) how he's grown as an artist. He is one of the most creative composers in the business, especially with his opening themes (Mars Attacks, MIB, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory). I swear some people on this site think it's just cool to hate everything.
And the theme from Sommersby by SithMenace	Nov 30th, 2006 05:41:21 PM
is incredible. But I'm sure most haters have never heard that one.
mikey mike... by ScoreKeeper	Nov 30th, 2006 05:47:59 PM
I did hear about Shirley Walker. I wrote an article about it a couple of hours ago. Hopefully it'll get posted soon. BTW, thanks.
No one mentions Nightmare before Xmas? by DoctorEss	Nov 30th, 2006 07:45:07 PM
mind-blowingly good! That alone puts him on the top list. He has consistently been interesting and compelling.
Hisaishi by Evil Hobbit	Nov 30th, 2006 09:21:41 PM
Hisaishi and Elfman indeed share a lot of similarities in the way they write music for film. I find one of the strongest things in Hisaishi's music his ability to create sweeping emotional music, crescendo upon crescendo by beautifull strings and humming brass but still being able to restraint the orchestra to not outdo themself. Elfman has a touch of doing this as well, peaces of Big Fish and the more rescent Corpse Bride pop in mind. I didn't had a chance to hear Dakota's vocal use in this score yet, it's still being shipped, but if it is like Hisaishi's use of children vocals in Miyazaki films I totally agree. And it fits the picture of restraint beauty. I remember a track from Nausicaa that was playing the theme in full orchestra only to suddenly hold back for a flashback where she stands alone in the valley as a young child. Highly rendered in warm colors using a children vocal in the score. It's such a peacefull and fruitfull addition that just made that scene more emotionally engaging then the average sentiment a lot of composers would write for it. It worked so well because aldo it reflects as a past that is long gone for Nausicaa and the memory of it is sad, the real emotion of it was a happy one. So the vocal was happy and warm. This way of writing is close to the characters and the story and I think Elfmans way of writing is also composing to tell the story in musical rendition. In this way you can always see the story when you listen to the music. A lot of times scores tend to only 'Mickey Mouse' the images onscreen and when listening to it at home you only relive a few moments of scenes instead of the story. A score like Elfmans or Hisaishi tend to do the last which makes the music and album a real joy to listen to at home. A truly great composer who for me belongs to one of the very best of our time.
You may be an Evil Hobbit... by ScoreKeeper	Nov 30th, 2006 09:57:54 PM
But you have great observations on film music. I'm a huge fan of Hisaishi and I never made the comparison between he and Elfman's work until this review. I agree with you on their similarities. It's been interesting to ponder. In CHARLOTTE'S WEB I don't think the child's vocal is used quite as prominently as Hisaishi would have taken it (I don't know though, it's only one phrase on the CD...maybe it's used more in the film) but it did strike me as something Hisaishi would have done if only for that moment. Nausicaa is a gorgeous score! As much as these two composers can get powerful it's indeed their restraint that I think makes them shine. Listen for that with Elfman's "Farewell Charlotte." It's so subtle but so incredibly powerful! Great post. Love the thoughts you planted in my brain.
no problem by Evil Hobbit	Nov 30th, 2006 11:40:44 PM
I love Hisaishi. His work on Miyazaki films is brilliant but I would also love to see him collaborate with Kitano again one day. Kikujiro, Hana-bi, Dolls. Great stuff.
Haters - try LISTENING to some of his scores b4 posting by BenBraddock	Dec 1st, 2006 03:29:52 AM
..other than just hating the few big genre ones you all know. Elfman has a LOT more going on than just superheroes & choirs. Check out "Black Beauty", "Sommersby", "Good Will Hunting"..even "Big Fish", then come back here and tell us he's doing the same score over & over - that's just ignorance. Try using your imaginations. It might hurt a little, but try.
Who the fuck... by captain_great	Dec 1st, 2006 09:30:40 AM
...buys and listens to a movie soundtrack? Go buy a Boards of Canada album and listen to some real music geeks.
And Danny Elfman has indeed by captain_great	Dec 1st, 2006 09:33:10 AM
And Danny Elfman has indeed spent the last fifteen years rehashing the score to Edward Scissorhands.
Elfman's scores are repetitive because by tracheattack	Dec 1st, 2006 10:36:31 AM
TIM BURTON thinks he's a visionary and won't stop making the same twiggy movie. When working with OTHER directors, Elfman can make new music.
Ain't It Composer News? by Cruel_Kingdom	Dec 1st, 2006 12:14:16 PM
Is it just me or is there a story about a composer or a particular score every day now? Don't get me wrong, composers are underrated...but are they really COOL in terms of movie geekdom? I mean, who gives a shit? If Bernard Hermann rises from the grave and scores something, hey, now THAT'S cool, but otherwise, come on... Best Boys and Gaffers are important to the making of a movie, too, but we don't have fifty articles on them here... I mean, I listen to classical music, but I don't think these discussions necessarily fit here. But that's just me.
he's coming to spider-man 3 allegedly by mikey mike	Dec 1st, 2006 07:15:13 PM
http://superherohype.com/news/ spider-mannews.php?id=4962 it's just a rumor at this point. he'll probably do what Zimmer usually does which is just right 2 or 3 themes and have Young expand those themes in the movie
CHARLOTTE'S WEB - SAMPLE MUSIC (by Danny Elfman) by KAWS	Dec 1st, 2006 10:49:36 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Charlott es-Web-Music-Motion-Picture/dp /B000J3FBP2
Let's try that again... by KAWS	Dec 1st, 2006 10:53:55 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Charlott es-Web-Music-Motion-Picture/dp /B000J3FBP2
Damn... by KAWS	Dec 1st, 2006 10:58:27 PM
Harry, you and your cheap ass fucking website, you need to UPGRADE!
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeee..... by Quintus_Arrius	May 20th, 2007 03:26:36 PM
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