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VERONICA MARS 3.X
Expanded To 20 Episodes!!

Veronica Mars by optimus122	Nov 17th, 2006 02:01:25 PM
NEEDS WOMEN!!! AND FIRST!!!
TOOOO SOOOOON by optimus122	Nov 17th, 2006 02:02:16 PM
I loves me some more veronica , damn she looks so cute in shorts
Last episode was good by optimus122	Nov 17th, 2006 02:03:31 PM
Its been a decent year , not as good as the first 2 seasons but lets see how it go's from here.
Yay by graycove	Nov 17th, 2006 02:48:07 PM
I like this show, and am sick of seeing my favorite shows get cut after two or three seasons.
Yeah, but what about Veronica Mars? by Det. John Kimble	Nov 17th, 2006 03:35:38 PM
I've never heard of Veroninca Mars - is it any good?
Damn you, Michael Bay!!!!!! by Squashua	Nov 17th, 2006 04:01:23 PM
Shorted us 2 episodes, that's just like you to do that!
Yes its a good show by optimus122	Nov 17th, 2006 04:49:23 PM
Who is your daddy and what does he do?
Thoughts... by DanielKurland	Nov 17th, 2006 04:56:13 PM
They just got a 3 episode extension, so I'm assuming this back order of 7 is adding 4 to that 3, as opposed to adding 7 to that 3. I suppose it's a little disappointing, but better than nothing, and it just means those last 4 will be extra filled with plot. However, is it completely impossible that they get those final 2? It's only 2 episodes. I can understand the pessimism towards cancellation, but the show is getting the best ratings that it ever has, and really, what are they going to replace it with? A "Runaway" spin-off?
Is only 20 a good or bad sign? by Drath	Nov 17th, 2006 05:01:44 PM
Does that have more to do with CW's limitations or does it mean they are still guarded about this show? It's better than a cancellation, so I'm happy. I'm thinking fans of any CW show should feel lucky to get more than just one more season--except maybe for Smallville which seems to be a rediculous hit (sorry, for that crap to be loved while Superman Returns is hated just adds more proof of the Superman Curse--it's Lois and Clark getting more seasons than the Bruce Timm animated series all over again!)
Re: DanielKurland by F-1000	Nov 17th, 2006 05:09:43 PM
No, they'll replace it with a 7th Heaven spin-off, naturally.
Odd. by CatVutt	Nov 17th, 2006 05:15:09 PM
I'm not sure I grasp the purpose of a 20 Ep order versus 22...seems kind of silly to be that close and not just show some confidence in it with the full order. I dunno. All I DO know, is the last two eps have been really solid, particularly the one two weeks ago. Not sure I buy Logan's Summer Escapade, though...if the writers are going to keep throwing up roadblocks to his relationship with V like that kind of erratic behavior, we need to see it on-screen, so we can buy into it a little more. He's been pretty much just wandering through the season to this point otherwise.
I think this is a good sign. by The Outlander	Nov 17th, 2006 05:15:17 PM
If they where going to cancel the show they would just gone for the normal 22 and given Rob time to finish of the show properly and they might have said this will be the last season. As the article says they are probably just cutting costs, after all they can still sell the DVD set for the same price.
Fantastic by Plum	Nov 17th, 2006 05:17:21 PM
Any time the show doesn't get cancelled, it's a good sign by VM standards. Getting a full season order? That's WONDERFUL. The 20 episodes will hopefully reduce strain on the writers and actors, though VM has finished more strongly than it's started in its first two seasons.
The fans are such dicks, I wish VM would get cancelled by Phantom Einstein	Nov 17th, 2006 05:43:59 PM
Seriously. They're just a bunch of fangirls in love with Jason Dohring. They spent the whole goddamn summer trash talking Kristen Bell. The guy's not only a Scientologist; I want to punch him in the gut because all he fucking does is cry. Dude - stop going to the crying place every time, it's fucking pathetic. Open your mouth when you talk. Loose the pukka shells. Logan should get into a horrific car crash, get an extreme makeover, suffer vocal damage and have to relearn how to talk and come back as a totally different actor. JUST LIKE ON THE SOAPS.
So, they're cancelling it then? by MattCG	Nov 17th, 2006 05:50:30 PM
Probably for the best. This season has been ass so far. Most of the characters have been reduced to glorified cameos and the ones that do show up act so completely out of character it isn't funny. Not to mention that "Aerie Tuesday" shit and the crap new theme song. The new characters all suck, Veronica has been doing some freakishly stupid things lately and all in all if Jason Dohring were to fall into a fucking combine, I'd be the happiest male viewer of this show.
So who's gonna be the 2nd arc's murder vic? by rockgolf	Nov 17th, 2006 06:07:22 PM
Likeliest candidates: 1) Keith's married girlfriend, played by Laura San Giacomo, Enrico's co-star on an old NBC sitcom. The giveaway will be if Ep 9 is titled "Just Shoot Me", or some variation. 2) Veronica's Criminality prof. Cheating with the dean's wife cannot go unpunished. 3) Piz. (Is that how it's spelled?) Likely title: "Piz offed".
the new entertainment weekly by Nightwood	Nov 17th, 2006 06:07:50 PM
gives the show a 'D,' lamenting its downslide. Just saying, might be an indicator of things to come.
VERONICA MARS NEEDS MORE... by Giz	Nov 17th, 2006 06:11:26 PM
...Episodes. Natch.
Why all the s3 hate? by nemesisdarkside	Nov 17th, 2006 06:11:57 PM
I've enjoyed s3 so far. While I don't love it as much as previous seasons, I'm still loving it. When did it become cool to say stuff like "s3 sucks" without explaining why? And what's with all the Jason Dohring hate. Dohring receives some of the best lines in the show. I do prefer when Logan and V weren't going out though. There banter was awesome when there were "snarky" towards each other. And don't get me started on "shippers", I hate people who watch shows for that. Same goes for the Smallville 'shippers.
Never watch Veronica Mars by DaleTremont	Nov 17th, 2006 06:13:25 PM
Never watch Veronica Mars with people just coming into the show. Last episode, a girl who wandered in and started watching dismissed VM as a "silly detective show." If only she knew how that hurt... And by the way, for every fangirl that watches the show for Jason Dohring, there's a fanboy that watches for Kristen Bell. And not for her talent.
silly fanboys by DaleTremont	Nov 17th, 2006 06:13:57 PM
Never watch Veronica Mars with people just coming into the show. Last episode, a girl who wandered in and started watching dismissed VM as a "silly detective show." If only she knew how that hurt... And by the way, for every fangirl that watches the show for Jason Dohring, there's a fanboy that watches for Kristen Bell. And not for her talent.
Veronica Mars needs... by Doggus47	Nov 17th, 2006 06:24:38 PM
It's old atmosphere. The men are all emasculated now- Weevil and Logan are completely spineless. Enough with all the happy endings, too.
MattCG, care to elaborate? by DanielKurland	Nov 17th, 2006 06:51:13 PM
I can understand the need to dumb dow nthe season a little to get more viewers, if it keeps the show on the air, then I don't mind, but other than that, I've been pleased with this season. I'm thinking Veronica's criminology prof will be the one killed, as there goes all of her scholarship and internship opportunities, and she has more of a personal connection with him. I'd really respect it if Piz or Parker died, but for whatever reason, I feel the prof's death would have more of an impct on Veronica. Also, the title to episode 9 is out, it's "Spit & Eggs".
Doggus47 by glodene	Nov 17th, 2006 07:17:19 PM
You're absolutely right. It's like the writers were given a new mandate to Dawson Creek the male characters...And what's up witn Veronica putting up with that stupid roommate/rape-victim rushing into that bar, putting herself and Veronica in danger and Veronica not reading her the riot act after. In earlier seasons, Veronica would never suffer fools so lightly.
CW told RT to make the show more accessable by kabigon	Nov 17th, 2006 08:11:34 PM
Simple as that. No, season 3 isn't as good as the last two (mystery > mystery arcs) and yes, all the characters become weaker and more kindhearted, but it's still VM. Be glad you are getting it at all because i know i am. It's not like RT has completely stuffed up the whole season. He's done amazing work with what he's been forced to do.
Third season best start yet!! by rhaps0dy	Nov 17th, 2006 08:23:40 PM
Well this is great news! I consider myself a big fan of this show, yet i can honestly say that this season has had the best start to date!! Season 1 started slow and season 2 didn't pick up till like ep 5. As for this its been pretty damn solid! Certain characters i.e. mac, should remain a side part not a main character! As for logan his quality but i want him back messing around with dickus casablanca, whilst wallace should be in it more! I'm appreciating having a selection of arcs this season unlike season 2 were the one arc became so stretched it was a straight line! At least this way the writing has pace and continuity as the arc needs to be resolved in 9eps! As for the next murder vic its gonna be her professor i'm sure of it, the fact he just gave them a paper titled 'how to plan the perfect murder.' is a giveaway! Anyways this show rules along with this season and the cw would make such a mistake if they cancel this! Oh yeh as for the male characters...Weevil has been out as the dude is ill in real life, whilst logan is still there just needs his mate back, right now he aint got any friends! Plus i always like to see my characters change throughout seasons, its a sign of them changing through situations and surroundings, even my behaviour is somewhat different now to how it was three years ago!
What was so Unaccessable.... by glodene	Nov 17th, 2006 08:26:34 PM
about the first two seasons? If this is the road (VM-LITE)that he is going to travel, then walk it out to pasture and shoot it in the head and see if he can get a production deal at FX or HBO where he won't have to compromise the integrity of his vision.
Forget that - George Takei is guest starring by Itchy	Nov 17th, 2006 08:54:55 PM
on Heroes as Hiro's father. Of course, there is no talkback about that. Oh, and Kristen Bell is one tight little minx. I would let her solve the mystery of who put the peepee in her pooper. (hint: It's me)
Mars needs more by Black Satin 2	Nov 17th, 2006 09:28:30 PM
But 20 sure sounds better.
Accessibility by Plum	Nov 17th, 2006 10:14:51 PM
I thought the "three mysteries" format was what made it accessible- that way you can come in in the middle of the season and not be completely lost, which was an especial problem in S2. I can sense network notes in some other aspects of S3, though- like the awful heavy-handed voiceovers in the last episode. Dear lord. I don't think VM is going down the toilet, though; it has, as usual, gotten off to a slow start and found its feet over time.
Please feature better shoes by herbshwartz	Nov 18th, 2006 12:05:54 AM
Just look at the effin cover of that DVD. Lets have all the forgettable cast make a 'V' around a motorbike. You crazy rebels.
Shows... I mean by herbshwartz	Nov 18th, 2006 12:07:55 AM
Or shoes. Now that i think about it. Better shoes, dammit !
glodene by nemesisdarkside	Nov 18th, 2006 04:48:47 AM
I made that same comment (stupid girl running into Fitzpatrick's bar and V not tearing her a new one!!!) on the neptunesite forum. That girl frakking annoyed me! Plus V was doing all that pro-bono!!!
VM is the Arrested Development of the CW by zekmoe	Nov 18th, 2006 06:50:16 AM
Just terrible, but a critical darling. I have no idea why. I've tried to watch, and it's just to fake and unfunny. It needs to go so they can play something more interesting...like a test pattern or reruns of Family Feud.
20 is better than 13 by The Selecter	Nov 18th, 2006 06:51:50 AM
It's been slow starting, but has been getting better each week.
Yes, that's a retarded sentence by The Selecter	Nov 18th, 2006 06:53:17 AM
but you get the gist of it.
The last ep marked the second stupid thing she's done by Hell_Bender	Nov 18th, 2006 09:12:13 AM
Flat-out stupid I mean. Not misplaced trust or a slip-up. Seconds after she realises she's been spiked, before the GHB really effects her; she walks away from the saftey of Campus Security and into a dark, isolated car park, knowing she won't be able to drive anyway. The first being the text message in the season 2 finale. I still love the show though.
i'm still enjoying the show, but it has gotten weaker.. by keyserSOZE	Nov 18th, 2006 10:15:55 AM
i loved the season long mysteries, not the little mini plots we're being given this year. that's just lame. and where the hell is Wallace? what's the point of inventing a VM drinking game with one of the rules being the first person to say "FROTASTIC!" doesn't have to drink, if the fro is never actually around? also, i don't mind Dohring, but good lord, that kid is the KING of the "dramatic spin" when he talks. it's really annoying...is he dancing a la michael jackson in the billie jean video? and in addition...am i the only one who has noticed that weevil has doubled in size, while seeming to get even shorter?
Weevil by optimus122	Nov 18th, 2006 01:40:25 PM
Has a real life illness that put him on medication that made him gain the weight and also gave him bad acne. He is recovering and losing weight now from what I read on the official VM website.
Still Good, But.... by Roboteer	Nov 18th, 2006 10:03:53 PM
Maybe too much of a been there, seen that already. Bring back Kevin Smith? Or something to give some pizazz. Logan backstory getting tired. Ratings did go up a very small amount this season. But not helpful that natural lead-in GILMORE GIRLS is down about 25%. Other shows on new network struggling too. Probably will get full year, but iffy for renewal. Show probably needs some kind of makeover plan to get another year. Line that higher education was listening to Noam Chomsky read the Havana phone book was priceless.
well then... by keyserSOZE	Nov 19th, 2006 08:48:01 AM
regarding weevil's weight gain, don't i feel like the asshole? yes, yes i do.
missed opportunity by johnnyangel	Nov 19th, 2006 09:41:32 AM
Veronica Mars missed an opportunity to make a strong emotional statement last week when Veronica was narrowly saved from being the next victim of the rapist. If she had been raped instead of the hackneyed cliche of rescue at the last moment, then that would have vastly increased the emotional stakes in a season that has felt a little flat, a little safe.
Nahhh by glodene	Nov 19th, 2006 01:10:12 PM
It would've been her second rape in two years. That would've devestated the poor girl. Considering all the fucked up things that has happened to her over the past two seasons plus last week, another rape would probably send V over the edge...As strong (emotionally) as she is, the girl can only take so much. I'm still waiting for her eventual post traumatic breakdown.
Glodene, the show needs some edge. by johnnyangel	Nov 19th, 2006 01:28:11 PM
Would anyone else like to see Keith Mars go medieval on those Irish fucks?
You also couldn't have had her raped again... by CatVutt	Nov 20th, 2006 12:28:48 AM
Because as another poster pointed out, it would've drawn further attention to what's possibly the SINGLE MOST STUPID and Out-of-character thing she's done, which is REALIZE she's drugged, and then trying to DRIVE rather than staying in a nice crowded area. I swear, I liked the ep a lot until that point, but my friggin' jaw dropped at that horrible writing decision.
Itchy - Takei's guest (money) shot all over Heroes by Trader Groucho 2	Nov 21st, 2006 05:28:51 AM
Takei's character on Heroes is a bigshot Japanese executive shows up in the States with his boyfriend, er, bodyguard, to bring his (alleged???) son home, only to find the boy bending the space-ass continuum with Kock (Andy Dick's butt-baby love-child of Kirk and Spock).
Through a teen girl noir detective show, darkly by Trader Groucho 2	Nov 21st, 2006 05:34:34 AM
I saw RT speak at a SWN meeting the summer before VM premiered, and I distinctly recall his vision of the show as quite dark. I sincerely wish he could have taken it as dark as he said he wanted to. It could have been darker than Galactica and still have the snarky cultural reference and Maltese Falcon-style wit.
VM in college by Trader Groucho 2	Nov 21st, 2006 05:44:18 AM
I'll defend where they went this thus far overall. First off, they didn't stretch out VM's high school career past two years. Junior year. Senior year. College. RT learned from watching Joss' mistakes (and there weren't a lot of those) with Buffy. RT I'm guessing didn't want to bring her in as the instant uber-badass in college, esp. when she's just a frosh and new to the territory. The Feminazis on-campus I think blunted somewhat the gravitas of the rape plotline. I agree with others here who have said the show needs an actual body count. My vote would be for the a-hole criminology assistant to get whacked and VM set up as the patsy. Then again I'd also have her taser Logan's nads and jump into bed with the criminology prof because, after all, freshmen do stupid shit in college and VM should be no exception. Oh, and how did VM dodge the freshman 15 weight gain?
the show's not perfect, but I still love it by oisin5199	Nov 21st, 2006 02:08:34 PM
yeah, the parking lot thing was kind of stupid, especially since she's been roofied before and should know better. But she had been really harsh and bitchy to Keith, the best damn single dad ever, and totally over the top with her mistrust. It's not season 6 Buffy with the darkness, but she definitely was spiralling down. I love her character, especially when she's not perfect and actually screws up (or actually acts her age) and has to learn from it. Anyway, I like this year better than last year. The bus crash thing was too drawn out and ridiculously resolved. As I said, it's not totally dark, but it's still pushing some envelopes with an entire arc about serial rape.
This week's episode by The Selecter	Nov 22nd, 2006 05:10:18 AM
was overloaded with too many one-liners. A few good ones ("wrecked him") work well, but they threw in far too many this week. KB is cute and all when she delivers them, but they became a distraction too much of a distraction. And was Patty Hearst wooden or what?
Ugh. Why can't we edit on this primitive system? by The Selecter	Nov 22nd, 2006 05:11:32 AM
?!?!?
Bah, fuck you guys by Bob of the Shire	Nov 23rd, 2006 01:37:25 AM
Season 3 started out kinda weak, a bit too bright and cheery for my tastes, but the last few episodes have been awesome, really awesome. Next weeks episode looks kick-motherfuckin'-ass and I'm really digging the shows vibe now. It's really going back to its "noir w/ witty banter" roots.

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