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Damn you Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Nov 16th, 2006
06:05:55 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
If you didn't like Sandman....
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 16th, 2006
06:57:28 AM
...you're not going to like much else that Gaiman's done. That said, though I haven't read Eternals, I never had high hopes for it since 1602 was so lacklustre.
NEXTWAVE!!!!
by DOGSOUP
Nov 16th, 2006
07:15:54 AM
- It's like Shakespeare/ But with lots more punching/ It's like Goethe/ But with lots more crunching/ Like Titanic/ But the boat's still floating/ No it's not!/ The mother(honk)ing boat is exploding! - NEXTWAVE!
Sleazy G.
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 16th, 2006
07:57:37 AM
You know, maybe that LCS wouldn't have closed up if you hadn't kept ordering books and then never picking them up. Just sayin'... ;)
My problem with BULLET POINTS
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 16th, 2006
08:02:10 AM
My problem with BULLET POINTS is that there was no REAL consequence of Erskine dying a day early as Steve Rogers still goes on to be the hero of WW2, albeit in the Iron Man armor. And it's that twist, adding the Iron man armor into the Marvel U much earlier than it ever was previously. (Unless I'm forgetting some long ago story point that Tony Stark based his original IM designs on a long ago abandoned Army project that he found files on...) It would have been more interesting to see how WW2 would have progressed without Steve Rogers' involvement at all. And I'm also annoyed at the complete lack of any of the other WW2 heroes showing up. Great idea, I just don't think it was particularly well thought out.
Gah... That should read
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 16th, 2006
08:05:28 AM
"And it's that twist, adding the Iron Man armor into the Marvel U much earlier than it ever was previously, that feels false and forced."
Doc Strange The Oath #2
by Shigeru
Nov 16th, 2006
08:09:14 AM
Anybody's else's copy have TEENY TINY dialogue text? I compared it to the new issue of Y and the text is, like, half the size.

oh also, Night Nurse is hawt.
RenoNevada2000
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 16th, 2006
08:24:36 AM
That's the problem with a lot of Elseworlds/What If type books. For example, I really like Superman: Red Son, but why is Batman a Russian, too? Wouldn't it be more interesting to do a story where Superman landing in Russia is the only difference?
Fables
by Mister Mediocre
Nov 16th, 2006
08:35:14 AM
The Flycatcher tale in FABLES: 1001 NIGHTS OF SNOWFALL is repugnant. After I read it I wished I hadn’t, but the other stories are so good (like the Christmas Pies) it all evens out.
Hey superhero!!!!
by CarmillaVonDoom
Nov 16th, 2006
08:36:05 AM
Sandman really is the best comic out there. Literally the 'Lord of the Rings' of comic books. It is that good. I have turned dozens...DOZENS...of non-comic readers on to comics because of Gaiman. Always, I have started them off with "Season of Mists." It is imo the best place to jump off even though it is the 3rd or 4th trade. That being said, you have a good point, Neil hasn't really done anything OUTSTANDING *except* for Sandman...even the two Death minis weren't that great.
superhero, f*ckin A, in such a good way!
by Thalya
Nov 16th, 2006
08:46:50 AM
"Why not just start with ETERNALS: THE GOTH YEARS? At least you'll be writing about something you know about."

Cojones, man. Cojones. :D
Annihilation #4
by Melanism
Nov 16th, 2006
08:55:21 AM
My vote for cover of the year
Titan Babies
by Thalya
Nov 16th, 2006
09:03:24 AM
I would so buy that. They could use Weather Wizard's kid for starters.
Let's have another mini-series about Power Girl
by Mr Incredible
Nov 16th, 2006
09:04:28 AM
So we can imagine if we were a memeber of the JSA, would we be distracted all the time by her bra-busting Boobs, Chi Chi's, Cans, Fun bags, Hoopdie hoops, Knockers, jugs, watermelons, rack, the twins, Milk Shakers, Angel Cakes, Balloons, Apples, Bangles, Bassoons, Baubles, Bazongas, Bazooms, Beacons...etc.
Who let the troll in?
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 16th, 2006
09:29:46 AM
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? It was Bueller, wasn't it?
BLACK GAS - Say it fast!
by Squashua
Nov 16th, 2006
09:31:55 AM
Hawt!
Best line from "Vamp"
by Spaz_Monkey
Nov 16th, 2006
09:54:32 AM
"What time do you get off? Can I watch?" I still use that line, and it actually worked, once!
For The Last Damn Time
by CaptDanielRoe
Nov 16th, 2006
10:11:48 AM
It is "Voila!" not "Walla Walla Washington." Or was that an obscure reference to Harry's post lo those many large, hairy moons ago?
Good point, cookylamo
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 16th, 2006
11:06:10 AM
On the other hand, getting TOO logical and analytical, you wind up with stuff like "Civil War".
Or "Viola!"
by rockgolf
Nov 16th, 2006
11:40:16 AM
Anyone remember that typo in a Daredevil issue from the 60's? Can't remember the number but it involved DD disguising himself as Thor (even converting his billy-cane to a mjolnir look-alike) and swinging thru the canyons of Manhattan. What was never explained, of course is how the hell did DD know what Thor's costume looked like.
Manhunter in tighty whities!!
by Diagnostic
Nov 16th, 2006
11:51:15 AM
IMHO, only Eric Bana/Ang Lee team up could make me more unconfortable.
Best comic typo
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 16th, 2006
11:55:55 AM
Was when the caption box called Sabretooth a "kike". Funny, because it's a rather surprising slur to apply to Sabretooth.
stopped reading after you trashed sandman
by waggy
Nov 16th, 2006
12:23:02 PM
not saying that invalidates your opinion, but i can't imagine someone who doesn't like that comic having tastes remotely close to mine (or most readers')
I don't know
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 16th, 2006
12:33:05 PM
Sandman is a tough read. Some issues were great and a joy to tear through. Some were a long slow death. I think Preacher and 100 Bullets have been overall more consistent with a stronger overall "theme", but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
...
by blackthought
Nov 16th, 2006
12:44:44 PM
...
Why wasn't there a Nightly News review?
by vivavitalogy
Nov 16th, 2006
01:11:19 PM
Indie Jones my butt. Go out on a limb every once in a while.
NIGHTLY NEWS
by SleazyG.
Nov 16th, 2006
01:28:50 PM
Look, it's a series I intend to check out, but try to keep in mind we can't review everything. Also keep in mind that while Image is one of the best places going for creator-owned work, it's too big to be considered "indie". Honestly, do you think Image is smaller than a guy who self-publishes through his website? Or Larry Young's AiT? Or Fecus Publications? It's a tricky line these days a lot of times, but in all fairness, I think Bug hits a helluvalot more indie stuff than most of our writers or readers. Like I said, I love and respect Image, and I'm looking forward to NN--I just think claiming we didn't cover "indie" books here is a tad misguided.
No to sound like a Gaiman/Sandman apologist, but...
by JuggFuckler
Nov 16th, 2006
01:31:14 PM
The first Sandman trade is in no way indicative of the overall quality of the series. Even Gaiman himself has said that it is best to start with no. 2, as it is more representative of the overall tone and feel of the story. That being said, the real magic happens with trade no. 4 and it knocks your dick in the dirt and keeps it there until the very end.
Jail Bait from Mars
by Argentino
Nov 16th, 2006
01:32:39 PM
you know what i mean
haha juggfuckler sweet
by Shigeru
Nov 16th, 2006
01:50:08 PM
So wait... if I've only read Preludes + Nocturnes, and loved it, will the rest be towards my tastes? Or not? Or are they just "different"?
OK, so edjucate me...
by superhero
Nov 16th, 2006
01:56:24 PM
Which Sandman trade would you recommend I actually read? Without any knowledge of Sandman whatsovever. If I read four without reading any of the others will I know what's going on? Same with the second trade? Don't mess around...just tell me EXACTLY which one to read and I'll check it out. THE ETERNALS still sucks, though. I read that old DEATH mini from Vertigo with the art from Bachalo a while back and I liked it.And don't tell me to buy ABSOLUTE SANDMAN because I won't. Personally...the Sandman series that I actually loved back in the day was SANDMAN MYSTERY THEATRE. That series kicked the hell outta anything I've ever seen from Gaiman...
Looks as if I was too quick with the lips.
by vivavitalogy
Nov 16th, 2006
02:01:02 PM
I've just been a little put off lately with my comic shop and other "resources". No need to go into here but...Dagnabit!
Sandman Books to Read
by SamBluestone
Nov 16th, 2006
02:05:40 PM
The first one, PRELUDES AND NOCTURNES is the ideal one to start with, but it's rough. It's definitely rough. However, there are enough powerful and important moments (the entire Diner issue, the game in Hell, the intro of Death) to make it worth reading. The series really starting finding it's feet with the Corinthian stuff in the second book, THE DOLL'S HOUSE. And while the rest of the series goes up and down, (mainly up), the consistently best story of them all is Book 4, SEASON OF MISTS. Oh, and A GAME OF YOU is the very worst, be warned. Ugh. Hate that story. So if you can, definitely give those a try. You'll see that it really isn't all for goths and Hot Topic customers, no, definitely not.
superhero's most unforgiveable error
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 16th, 2006
02:17:47 PM
was referring to Twizllers as if they were a good thing. Yikes. Change the reference to Sour Patch Straws and we'll get somewhere.
I Now Know That I Don't "Get" Tuna Casserole...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 16th, 2006
02:34:40 PM
...all these years, I just thought I didn't like it.
Sandman
by El Vale
Nov 16th, 2006
02:42:31 PM
I started reading the first trade and frankly the art put me off...like the Jill Thopmson art from Invisibles, just ugh. Now that i know it picks up after that, i'll read the rest of the series.

Funny story: I turned my non-comics reading friend into comics by use of Sandman, even tho' i'd never read it. There's gotta be something to it, right?
Turned Your Non-Comics Reading Friend Into Comics, ELV?
by tonagan
Nov 16th, 2006
03:11:22 PM
You mean you used their blood for ink and their skin as parchment? That's sick! :) I second the Power Girl love, by the way.
What can you say?
by Thalya
Nov 16th, 2006
03:32:00 PM
Vale's a fan of Lovecraft, maybe?
WHAT HAPPENED TO LAST WEEK'S REVIEWS???????
by nofate
Nov 16th, 2006
03:48:24 PM
It skips from Nov 1st to this week's? Well, I will not be denied. Here's my topic again from back then. I cannot wait for Spider-man 3. That trailer was the shit. They still can't translate the Green Goblin's (Hobgoblin's?) costume to "real life" but oh well. Can't wait for the Iron Man teaser either. My version? Black Sabbath's Iron Man on the background (duh). For every drum beat, fade in and out of black to close ups of the characters and then the armor. Go to black, and a metallic voice says "engage" or "lock and load" or some shit like that. Music full blast to shots of IM flying around NY, dodging missiles or whatever. Yeah, is pretty standard and really cliched but don't tell me you don't get chills thinking about it. And they damn well better get the rights to Sabbath's Iron Man. If Nissan can get it for their shitty truck commercials, they can get it for this flick. Even better? Get Metallica to do it. They played a kick ass version of the song at Sabbath's hall of fame induction.
TWIZZLERS RULE!
by superhero
Nov 16th, 2006
04:24:57 PM
Out here in California they only have Red Vines at the movie theatre and it's just awful. Red Vines suck! They taste like my freakin' tupperware! I remember when I first moved out here and started going to the movies and was like,"Can I have a pack of Twizzlers please?" And the guy behind the counter was like, "What's a Twizzler?" I thought I was going to lose my shit lemme tell you. I used to eat Twizzlers by the one pound bag thank you very much. Can't do that anymore as my metabolism won't tolerate it but those were the days lemme tell you...
I'm a sick person
by El Vale
Nov 16th, 2006
04:52:27 PM
No help required, though. Some people are simply happy being what they are.
Just skip right to Season of Mists, Superhero.
by Childe Roland
Nov 16th, 2006
04:59:13 PM
Either that will make you want to learn more about the character's origins and previous escapades or it will tell you pretty resoundingly that Sandman isn't your thing. Me? It got its hooks in pretty deep and made even some of the more lackluster entries in the series fascinating. It's an extremely well conceived and complete mythos for comics. Worth your time, at least, if not your eventual love and/or respect.
A Proposition For Superhero
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 16th, 2006
05:13:28 PM
I'll gladly send you Georgia's overabundance of Twizzlers in exchange for California's unbridled access to 7-11 and its many decadent slushees. Ah, Mountain Dew slushee, where are you when I need you? Oh, and Casino Royale is going to kick ass. Not comic related, but geek related for sure.
Why doesn't Miss Martain wear a thong?
by mortsleam
Nov 16th, 2006
05:36:56 PM
And will the Titan Babies have villains made up of children of classic villains? Will someone go back in time and remove the Sue Dibny's baby before she's crisped and raise it to believe it was actually Dr. Light's kid? This shit writes itself. Also, who wants to read about what would happen if Captain America wasn't involved in World War II? That's called history, man.
Why doesn't Miss Martian wear a thong?
by mortsleam
Nov 16th, 2006
05:36:59 PM
And will the Titan Babies have villains made up of children of classic villains? Will someone go back in time and remove the Sue Dibny's baby before she's crisped and raise it to believe it was actually Dr. Light's kid? This shit writes itself. Also, who wants to read about what would happen if Captain America wasn't involved in World War II? That's called history, man.
What the shit?
by mortsleam
Nov 16th, 2006
05:39:46 PM
Look away! Don't make eye contact! Pretend you didn't see anything!
WTF's a Twizzler?
by El Vale
Nov 16th, 2006
06:23:45 PM
Seriously.
Hey, Dana Delaney Just Won Celebrity Jeopardy!!!
by tonagan
Nov 16th, 2006
06:52:22 PM
God is she hot.
Vale, this is what Twizzlers are...
by superhero
Nov 16th, 2006
07:00:25 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yxof4k and they are pure sugary chemical gold. GOLD I tell you! No creo que los tienen en Colombia pero ustedes tienen empanadas y empanadas me gustan mucho tambien! Andale!
Eternals, Martian Manhunter and so much more
by Black Satin 2
Nov 16th, 2006
07:33:18 PM
I agree. Gaiman has really taken 5 issues in what should have taken 3. Or 2 when you consider he has fleshed out too few scenes between these 'powerful' beings. Isn't it interesting that Doctor Strange and the Martian Manhunter are so difficult to write yet everyone sees potential for them. I really didnt' see the point in Tim getting hurt in Batman. Morrison threw some good ideas but essentially did nothing to 'change' Batman's landscape. For good or bad, time will tell. Also, I liked the Teen Titans' issue too. I hope Robin and Wonder Girl have another 'encounter'. Both the characters have been through a lot and even though it seemed like a mistake, isn't it interesting how the Bat family and the Wonder Woman family seem to get along very well. Even in Supergirl, she is crushing on Nightwing. Also, Astonishing X-men #18 was Uncanny. Loved the way it paid homage to Issue 136. Another Space adventure with tragedy possibly along the way. Who is going to die? Or not come back?
Vertigo Vs Superheroes
by ktownman
Nov 16th, 2006
07:58:56 PM
Ive been a reader and comic retailer for close to 20 years. ive enjoyed Sandman and observed how special it was and it what followed. it deserves its awards etc and im not alonein that thought but I can respect the reader who looks at it differently. but the problem with the comic industry is that some creators / writers / artists are exalted and near worshipped for everything they do. Every Comic creator has crap in their work closet. Alan Moore , Neil Gaiman and Frank Miller have not batted a 1000 with everything theyve done. Frank Miller - All-Star Batman and Robin comes to mind right away. The point im trying to make is I hate the snobby comic readers who read a Gaiman Book and somehow feel like their better or smarter or their feces smells sweeter then a reader that reads something of so called lesser quality. To Each their own and every reader is like a beautiful unqiue snowflake.
This Sunday on A&E Intervention 10Pm Est 9:00pm Central
by ktownman
Nov 16th, 2006
08:05:34 PM
John Byrne will finally get a sitdown and faced with the fact that all of his work has been crap for the last 5-8 years. Is it better to burnout then slowly fade away. Points will be made and exhbits will be presented Lab Rats,Blood Of The Demon and that god damn Recent JLA Vampire Storyline. Please Get John help he needs. We can bring Johnny back to greatness of Claremont X-Men Run , Fantastic Four and She Hulk only we can help and prevent a a new DC ongoing series that will only last 20 issues max and be cancelled.
All I got to say is…
by The Heathen
Nov 16th, 2006
08:15:26 PM
I hope this tb doesn't disappear into the ether as last weeks did. For those who are curious enough, here it is ** http://tinyurl.com/yhpxtw ** Nofate, I don't know if you were kidding or not about the Iron Man song, but I replied to that in last weeks tb. I hope you were kidding. You were kidding right?

I love strawberry Twizzlers. Even black licorice Twizzlers. Say Black Gas three times fast!

Delaney is kinda hot, I mean, she's Lois right?

http://tinyurl.com/yyphsx
The problem isn't...
by Sledge Hammer
Nov 16th, 2006
09:59:39 PM
...that you can't review everything, the promblem is that much of the stuff you guys do review isn't really reviewed in any way at all, instead it's just a bunch of sideways fanboy ranting bullshit that you think makes you look clever and cool and oh-so-funny, rather than actually bothering to review the books in any sort of clear or concise or useful way. Reviews don't have to be boring and completely linear, I'm not saying don't have fun with them, and forgive my old fashioned notions here, but I personally think they do have to actually meet the purpose of reviewing the book in question to some degree. Three paragraphs of some stupid ass fanboy schtick followed by two lines of saying the book is kinda meh isn't a review, it's a 'look at me' fan wank. And we seem to be getting more of that and less anything resembling actual reviews with every passing week now.

Just one guy's opinion anyhow.

Superhero: Did you read past the 1st Sandman trade?
by Toxic Frog
Nov 16th, 2006
10:11:15 PM
If not, you should. It sounds like you read the first trade, gave it a 'meh', and stopped. This is understandable. As cool as it was when it first came out, it did not age well and frankly isn't that great (I totally agree with you). I bet you'll like the 2nd one much more, but it still might not hook you. But believe me, each Sandman trade gets better and better. I'm not a "Gaiman can do no wrong" fanboy, and I actually agree that he's starting to pull a bit of a Frank Miller (although not quite so embarassingly). But you really should read the Sandman series through - I bet you'll be glad you did. Each consecutive trade gets better until the ending, at which point Gaiman closed it on a high note.
Please, hating on Neil Gaiman
by Jaka
Nov 16th, 2006
11:49:14 PM
Is so done already. It was the "new hip thing to do" a couple years ago, wasn't it? Neil is responsible for both creating and sustaining several subsets of our current geek culture. He consistantly does good to great work in several mediums. But he's working at his craft, all the time. And he's a very aproachable and open human being. He's cooler than you. So get over it already. lol
Cooler than me?
by El Vale
Nov 17th, 2006
01:08:40 AM
No way, i've seen pictures!
Two of the best comics get slated?
by DrLektor
Nov 17th, 2006
07:49:59 AM
Indeed, please no more Gaiman bashing, Eternals is a wonderful book. Considering where the characters were before, NG's done wonders to revitalize them and bring them neatly into the current Marvel Universe. And disliking the Sandman? Are you insane? Batman is also a winner with Morrison, my only complaint is the issues are too short, if he'd released the arc in a standalone graphic novel, a sequel to Bride of the Demon it would be raved about, instead we see nitpickers poking holes in the story, moaning about Morrison's "too many ideas", bollocks. So he's gone mainstream lately, can't think of anything better for the guy. Now if only the big two can convince Alan Moore to get back to writing comics for them again.
hey you watch the martian manhunter on smallville
by unmancito
Nov 17th, 2006
09:04:56 AM
Saving clark's butt
My favorite Gaiman work:
by Shigeru
Nov 17th, 2006
10:51:31 AM
The um... crap what was it called... the Sandman HC that focused on each member of The Endless? Endless Nights?
What?
No, I can't be bothered to look it up!
For fans of black licorice I suggest:
by Shigeru
Nov 17th, 2006
10:54:37 AM
Sambuca and Root Beer. Good sheezy. Too bad I hate black licorice.
What Do You Like With Your "Aht", Jar Jar?
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 17th, 2006
11:49:17 AM
A fine merlot or a chateau? Because this is high "aht" we're talking about. Which "aht" galleries do you favor? Any new discoveries in the trendy avant garde world? I like how the "ahtist" transcends traditional canvas or material and uses glossy paper and staples. No doubt, Jar Jar, you own a few tuxedos, select say an Armani or Dior and ride in a limo with your European date down to such showings as CRAZY FRODO'S CAVALCADE OF COMICS or THE FOUR COLOR FUNHOUSE. "Yes, we're very excited about the new Morrison show. Ah, yes, BATMAN. Oh, look, and they've collected all the BAT-MITE stories into a mini-exhibit. Trade pa-per ba-ack."
Hey, Dana Delaney Just Won Celebrity Jeopardy!!!
by montessaurus
Nov 17th, 2006
11:52:17 AM
yeah, she is just getting better looking with age, yowza.
What Would Happen If Comics Weren't Credited?
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 17th, 2006
11:58:43 AM
With artists, you probably couldn't do that because, you could tell, for example, that your comic was drawn by the HOUSE OF M artist, even if his name weren't included. But I think it'd be interesting to see what we'd think of a comic if we didn't know that it was CREATED (?) by Neil Gaiman or Frank Miller or Bendis or whomever. The cult of the writer is the most ridiculous trend in comics.
As far as comic books go,
by DrLektor
Nov 17th, 2006
12:21:31 PM
As far as comic books go, the very way they are designed in fact, they're mainly a visual feast. The cover of a comic used to be the thing that first attracted people to the rack, not the speech balloons. What changed is that comics moved out of mere pulp fare and silly stories into more literary circles. It’s why 70's Batman is rated because of Neal Adams and not Denny O'Neil. Sure, I know a lot of comics that are adult in nature, published way back when, some very serious in tone, but no child I knew read them. Which brings me to the point right sharpish, comics grew up (well, some did) as we grew up with them. The cult of the writer is there for a reason, talented people who know their shit and write sometimes intelligent, sometimes funny, sometimes tragic stories that appeal to us. Do you rate Marvel/Miracleman, how about Swamp Thing? Why do people buy novels by the same writer all the time and keep them on the bestseller list? Yes, I'm comparing comics to books now because that's what a good comic should be, albeit a bit shorter. Oh look, Alan Moore has the same respect and fame as Stephen King. Go figure.
The Eternals, written by _________
by Shigeru
Nov 17th, 2006
12:29:11 PM
would still suck and I would still drop it after 2 issues (which I did).
Hmmm
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 17th, 2006
12:41:04 PM
I wouldn't say Alan Moore is as famous as Stephen King. I mean, you make some good points, but if I walk anywhere in America, or hell, even most of the English speaking world, and make a Stephen King reference, people would pick up on it. If I mentioned Alan Moore, people would think I was talking about the bassist for the Arctic Monkeys or something. However, before this season is over, both will have been guest stars on The Simpsons!
missed a bit
by DrLektor
Nov 17th, 2006
12:41:22 PM
But still, writers get "cult" status because they're good, if they suddenly write something shit, like Frank Miller *cough*, they get blasted, even the biggest Miller fan knows when his idol's off his game. Same goes for Morrison, I found the Invisibles ridiculous, pretentious and downright boring. Moore is praised for the Birth Caul and it makes me roll my eyes because apart from a few rather moving panels it was twaddle. That's not a cult. As a friend of mine just remarked, "you're only as good as your last project."
Black licorice is the worst candy in existence.
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 17th, 2006
12:44:30 PM
It's what Satan gives out when they trick-or-treat in Hell...
The Birth Caul comic
by El Vale
Nov 17th, 2006
02:42:55 PM
Is more Campbell than Moore, so you can blame Eddie there...that piece was concieved as a musical performance by Moore.

Why do you find the so called writer cult so ridiculous Buzz?

Lastly, unmancito? Now that guy's gotta be some sort of Colombian.
Oh and Endless Nights was fantastic
by El Vale
Nov 17th, 2006
02:45:50 PM
I read that book once a year.
oh yeah?
by Shigeru
Nov 17th, 2006
03:23:43 PM
I read it once a month!
I prefer writers to artists.
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 17th, 2006
03:29:50 PM
I'd rather read a book than stare at a picture. Hell, I even read those Youngblood issues Moore and Millar wrote in spite of shitty Liefeld art.
'Sup Heathen.
by nofate
Nov 17th, 2006
03:38:30 PM
Long time no see(hear? read?). Come on, you know Sabbath's gotta be somewhere on that flick. Little trivia, what came first, IM character or IM song?
I lied
by El Vale
Nov 17th, 2006
04:01:45 PM
I read it once a day.
'Sup nofate.
by The Heathen
Nov 17th, 2006
04:02:16 PM
No way man, I can't buy into that. If Sabbath is anywhere in that movie it better be on a Sunday no what I'm sayin? If I hear that song in any form in the Iron Man movie I'd blush like a school girl I would!

As for the trivia? Hell, I dunno, but I'd venture to say it was the Iron Man character. Do I get a No Prize?

Take care fate.
The Sandman is Perfect
by DOGSOUP
Nov 17th, 2006
05:10:18 PM
Sorry but I think every issue is important to the overall story even the ones that seem to plod along. Characters and events from P&N resonate all the way until the end. The Sandman is only slighty higher in my opinion than Transmet for finite long running series close to my heart. Doll's House, Season of Mists, Brief Lives, and The Kindly Ones are my favorite trades.
And BTW Neil did a little thing for us lately
by DOGSOUP
Nov 17th, 2006
05:12:45 PM
and by "us" I mean fans of story and fantasy, a little something called Anansi Boys. Better than American Gods.
Anansi Boys
by The Heathen
Nov 17th, 2006
05:29:09 PM
I heard good things. Is it really good?
anasi...
by blackthought
Nov 17th, 2006
07:01:55 PM
read it, thought it was rather good. come on it features the african trickster god and if my memory serves that's where my slave family members were taken from...africa...i hear nice things. so is civil war over yet? the only war really worth following is dwight's impeding battle to become michael scott's number three.
Chris Claremont
by ktownman
Nov 17th, 2006
07:32:58 PM
Just me or is he taking the same drugs Byrne has been taking. When was the last good Claremont Book? I respect the man 1000% for what hes contributed but what has we written lately that makes you say MMMM thats Claremonttastic.
Neil Gaiman
by ktownman
Nov 17th, 2006
07:38:03 PM
Loving The Eternals and most of 1602 other then the final issue but Gaiman's weak spot is writing superheroes and I know some of the Gaiman Apostles would say hes to good for superheroes but at the end of the day comic books is superheroes with a few viable offshoots of Crime,Horror etc. Everybodys read list on this board is 80% superheroes at least. We bitch at Civil War but have read each issue multiple times. We bitch at lateness but were right there when Secret War #5 ships or All-Star Batman and Robin finally comes out.
Worst Comic Industry Moments of Last 20 Years
by ktownman
Nov 17th, 2006
07:46:44 PM
Norman Osborn and Gwen Stacy Doing the Deed , Kevin Smith's Spider-man Black Cat , Spawn Going from #1 to #226. Dave Sim not on a monthly book after the finale of Cerebus in 2004. Marvel's inablity to make Superpro a Avenger. Come on hes a superhero football player the potential was there. Bendis being touted as a better writer then Brubaker. The Finale to Seven Soldier's Loved that storyline and reread all 31 books before finale and I was still scratching my head.
Anybody reading the Fables ongoing?
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 17th, 2006
10:54:30 PM
I need to be brought up to speed. is there a website besides the occasionally spotty Wikipedia where I can be brought up on titles with pretty good description? And why doesn't Lindsey Lohan wear any panties? Her thighs are much more cottage cheesy than I would have imagined...
Funny typos...
by CarmillaVonDoom
Nov 18th, 2006
09:52:48 AM
rev_skarecrow you beat me to it on the 'kike' one. I've got a copy of Marvel Two-In-One #1 that actually reads Marvel-Two-On-One in the upper left hand corner. Not sure if that is the case with all copies, but it made me chuckle the other day when I noticed...
It's called an ANALOGY, JarJar...
by stones_throw
Nov 18th, 2006
10:39:16 AM
...I would have thought it's a lot easier to understand than your belief that art is above criticism because it calls itself art.
...
by blackthought
Nov 18th, 2006
01:05:36 PM
...
Aaaanywaay...
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 18th, 2006
01:09:18 PM
What did everyone think of the releases for this week?
There is much to be said at the moment...
by loodabagel
Nov 18th, 2006
01:57:01 PM

First and formost, Neil Gaiman.
I own 1602, Sandman Endless Nights, Coraline, Mirrormask (Haven't watched it yet) I have read Stardust and am currently on the 500th page of American Gods. American Gods is great, and I plan to read Anansi Boy when I finish. I enjoyed 1602, although I agree that the book was a bit gimmicky and certainly woudn't be someone's cup of tea. I found Endless Nights to be, at times, confusing (Delirium) and just plain stupid, (about half of Despair and all of Destiny. I was hoping the book would be a good taste of what I'm missing out on, but it didn't really offer much for new readers. I enjoyed all of the more coherent stories and thought Death was the best one. The only thing I've heard about Eternals thus far is that it sucks and is extremely boring. My opinon-I think it sounds like Gaiman should be given more time with these characters. Bring them back for an Eternals monthly where they can actaully do some stuff.

Iron Man
Iron Man the character came first. He first appeared in 1962. Iron Man the song was first released in 1969 on the Sabbath album Paranoid. And I think nofate's Iron Man idea is indeed pretty cool, although exceptionally cliched, as he already said. But I've got to say no to Metallica. Never cared for them, and the original is pretty hard to beat. But as long as it's not some top 40 adult contemporary motherfucker (They're doing a lot of that kind of stuff these days) I can't be too bothered.

Batman by Grant Morrison

I thought this last issue was actaully really great until the last few pages. There was some nice deatils to the art as well. When they're on top of the submarine, I thought for sure, "Andy Kubert didn't draw that big gun for nothing. It's going to come into play later. But it never did. I guess he just really felt like drawing a big gun... I don't think the problem with it was that the ending was rushed or forced. I think the ending just sucked. And I gotta know Jar Jar, what did you think of this issue?

Teen Titans

We can never have enough teenage superheroes. I liked this issue. Good story. Good Art. Which leads me to the next subject...

Jim Lee Comparison/Contrast Chart

Jim Lee-THE Jim Lee
Tony Daniel-The subdued, subtle Jim Lee
Marc Silvestri-The Poor man's Jim Lee
Michael Turner-Jim Lee with more anorexic girls and glass cutting jaws
Rob Liefield-The one-legged, homeless man's Jim Lee
Jae Lee-The sophisticated man's Jim Lee
David Finch-Jim Lee, the new wave Puff Daddy remix.

The Office

Currently my favorite show on TV as well.

Astonishing X-Men

I want issue 18 right fucking now!

Looda…
by The Heathen
Nov 18th, 2006
02:25:27 PM
loved your Jim Lee Comparison/Contrast chart. Awesome stuff!

I haven't been to my shop yet this week, so I can't comment too much on the new releases, but I'm anxious as usual. I hope to read Pride Of Baghdad and The Fountain next week for the small holiday break.

Casino Royale is damn good. Daniel Craig is great. Best Bond movie I've seen in theaters and the best Bond since any of Connery's, that goes for Craig as well.
Respect of My Peers & Credibility, Jar Jar?
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 18th, 2006
02:40:15 PM
Peers such as Jonathan Collingsworth Hollowpoint? Nathaniel Rasputin? Eleanor Spork?And how can you have credibility reviewing comic books?
Sandman superhero
by Marco_Xavier
Nov 18th, 2006
05:34:25 PM
The no-bullshit Sandman recommendations...

Preludes & Nocturnes: Very disappointing when I first read it. It was this awkward thing that straddled the fence between early Alan Moore playing straight genre and House of Mystery anthology style bits. The art and color didn't help.
A/The Doll's House: The first SM trade I ever bought, and the best. A stand alone arc; new reader friendly; great ideas and mood. Dringenberg sans Keith is a vast improvement in the art department, suiting the grim subject matter perfectly. Even the references to 80's Roy Thomas comics work in this context.
Dream Country: Never got around to reading this one, in part because I thought the hoopla over "A Midsummer Night's Dream" was terrifically overheated. Navel gazing made only slightly better by it being Billy Shakespears' instead of Gaiman's own.
Season of Mists: I started reading Sandman toward the end of this arc, in floppie form. For many, Kelly Jones remains THE Sandman artist, with good cause. Compelling.
A Game of You: People hated this pseudo-sequal to "Doll's House" back when it was coming out, and I was with them at first. I think the book was shipping late, also. However, the shifting art styles began to work in the story's favor, and it reads better in one sitting.
Fables and Reflections: For my money, Gaiman is better at short stories than arcs (with exceptions.) I think this one collected the "Distant Mirrors" series of one issue stories, plus the Orpheus annual, and they're pretty great. Going against the mainstream, I never thought much of "Ramadan," though.
Brief Lives: By this point, Tori Amos was referencing Gaiman in song and mainstream media was heralding the series as a masterpiece. So of course, I thought the book totally jumped the shark at this point. Late shipping, meh art and languid storytelling made this one feel anything but brief.
World's End: Just as I was thinking to myself "there's THREE more volumes?!?" I'm reminded that this short story collection with bridging vignettes was pretty solid. Nice art, especially by Mike Allred.
The Kindly Ones: Where all the threads from the entire series come together! Sounds good? Try tedious, and I never could get past Hempel's art on this. I never reread this or "Brief Lives," so maybe it works better collected.
The Wake: Oh right, THIS was where Neil gazed 'pon his own navel. Redeemed by the best art I ever saw come out of Michael Zulli (though Last Temptation of Alice was decent.)
Then again
by El Vale
Nov 18th, 2006
10:53:40 PM
That'd be like asking how you can have credibility writing comic books...and look at Alan Moore or even Gaiman. Or asking how you can have credibility drawing comic books...and look at Moebius or even Manara (heh, really).
Read The Sandman in it's entirety in one sitting.
by DOGSOUP
Nov 19th, 2006
02:59:24 AM
I did and even the slower parts I didn't get before fit. A Game of You fits. Everything fits. That's why it's damn near perfect.
Considering the source
by SleazyG.
Nov 19th, 2006
06:24:52 AM
Well fuck me--I had no idea Oxford, Harvard and the University of Chicago were now teaching OWNED 101. Don't I feel a right prick. No, wait, I don't...because unlike some undereducated interweb users I know that OWNED is spelled PWNED and caring about OWNING people is GAYTARDED. Kinda like beating the same drums and hammering the same square points into the same round holes for oh, say, 18 months straight. Wanna convince people of how smart you are and why you're a vastly superior critic? A.) STAY OFF TEH F@CK*NG INTARWEBS. B.) Go find somebody who cares. C.) Write a superior critique. D.) Realize that just because somebody shits on you by way of response doesn't mean they give a shit about you. E.) Look around, realize how far beneath you they all are, and WALK AWAY so you don't have to deal with their idiocy any more. And of all the options, man, I gotta say: E.) is far and away the best option. Yep--if I was too smart for this room, if I was so goddamn cool Chow Yun Fat wanted to be me when he grew up, if I had just taught Heidegger a thing or two about language, I'd be walkin' the fuck outta this joint RIGHT NOW and I'd never look back. You can never look back. Pillars a' salt, bitches...
ah...gaytarded?
by blackthought
Nov 19th, 2006
12:35:02 PM
is that the subtitle for civil war?
"Owned" a definition and brief history
by Son of Batman
Nov 19th, 2006
02:52:32 PM
Owned – defeated soundly, or otherwise embarrassed. Synonym: pwned, schooled, housed. "Pwned" is an expansion of "owned" where the "p" signifies the severity of the "ownage" where the "p" actually symbolizes a trickle of blood leaking from the "o," as in a bleeding, assaulted anus. "Owned" appeared first, with "pwned" becoming a widely-recognized, more severe version of the original.
I watched 3 movies this weekend...
by loodabagel
Nov 19th, 2006
10:05:21 PM
Mirrormask was good. LAbyrinth for snobs. The Dark Crystal was good. It had 800 muppets. Happy Feet was really good. I wrote a review on myspace. Everybody read it because I said so... Or not. It's all up to you. Heathen, thanks for the mad props regarding my Jim Lee chart. But I'm thinking of revising it to read Michael Turner-Jim Lee with more anorexic girls and glass cutting limbs.
Morrisoned out again.
by Squashua
Nov 20th, 2006
10:05:57 AM
Man, when am *I* going to review the controvertial comic du jour? Suggest a good one to me for this week; I already did Shadowpact.
The Difference Between Jar Jar & A Tuna Casserole...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 20th, 2006
12:05:13 PM
...with tuna casserole, so you don't hurt the cook's feelings, you can feed it to the dog. With Jar Jar...well, I guess there is no difference, except maybe the cook's feelings wouldn't be hurt.
Always Good To Hear From Marco Xavier...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 20th, 2006
12:16:09 PM
Insightful stuff and good perspective. And I think I didn't elaborate enough on reading comics without writer credit. It's not really possible or probably even desirable, of course. But...I think that too often we are too easy or too rough on a work based on the writer's name. Let's use John Byrne for example because very few of you will get pissed off at the mere suggestion he isn't God Incarnate. He DOES have the proto-typical blind fan base. I mean, the guy is insane, mean spirited and hasn't produced top work since, arbitrarily, George Sr. was president, if then. But he has a rabid, unquestioning fan base. Like I said, we could recognize the art, unless you go, "That Erik Larsen just isn't trying any more." But if it was just his writing, a lot of those humps read the story, they'd say, "Oh, that sucks!" until you showed them the writing credit. Let's piss ourselves off and use a canonized genius. Anybody read Alan Moore's VIOLATOR series from Image? It ain't FROM HELL, bay-bee. Without the credit, I would have reviewed it like this: "This book has one hilarious, dark humored sequence in which the Violator is firing a gun through the head of a mobster that is stuck on his hand. Otherwise, Garth Ennis must have written this puppy on cocktail napkins, while drunk, after losing a bet to Tod McFarlane." For the record, I love SANDMAN and used to give the trades glowing reviews here. But I don't like Gaiman's novels and haven't been able to make it through one.
Do You Use "Owned" In This Context...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 20th, 2006
12:20:43 PM
...after your balls have dropped? Seems a little juvenile...oh, right, we're here at the AICN Comics talkback. Well, carry on. I actually was owned once. It was in the Sudan. My merc unit had been wiped out and I ran afoul of one of the local warlords. I worked my way up to top Overseer before clubbing my master with a eunuch outside of his harem. Took off in his private jet with a train of camels trailing behind. Had a helluva time getting through customs.
"I don't write reviews for retards."
by SleazyG.
Nov 20th, 2006
05:38:12 PM
Or anybody else, ya fuckin' pussy. Man, I can't wait for the day you try to write something original so I can come down to where you work and slap the dick outta *your* mouth. It's real easy to talk shit, but I have yet to see a review from *anybody* around here who said they were gonna write one to prove how easy it was.
Non-review writers that say they are going to write…
by The Heathen
Nov 20th, 2006
06:58:21 PM
reviews are 'usually' funny. There was that one guy who's name escapes me who said it was so easy and he'd have three reviews come Monday. He didn't. I asked why. He said he thought no one cared. I said like farm boy Luke, "I care." He still didn't write em. Ahh, he was great.

I thought in Looda's first post where he sincerely asked Jar Jar what he thought of the ending of Morrison's Batman arc was a nice attempt to have Prez be anything but a dick. Apparently that's impossible. I can see his reply to me now. "Heathen you're retarded. Why don't you go have butt sex with Looda because you're so in love with him and think about how I own you. No, Pwn YOU!" There, saved you the trouble of typing you witty pwning bastard! Also, if you were adept enough, you'd realize that Looda having two screen names and being obvious about it is kinda known all around to, well, anyone with an IQ over 85 really. Of course someone of such intelligence would know that though.

The thing is, people would give Jar Jar maybe a mili-second glance if he could actually do anything besides suck his own cock. I mean, if he's such a brilliant mind who gets everything that Grant Morrison does then he could surely tell us what he thought about four issues of Batman. Or can he? No wait, I can see it now. "Heathen, I don't need to explain anything to you because you're a retard. I just Pwned you!" Again, no need to thank me… unless I ruined your jollies or something. I think he may be a one-trick pony and the trick is boring really. "Pwned" - give me a fucking break. If anyone over 20 really types that to people then they need to be slapped open handed. If they do, they must have retained testicles that will never drop. It's stupid internet speak and if anyone claims to be as smart as some think they are then they could bring something A) more clever and B) more original to the table. Let's see how predictable things turn out to be.
Whoa whoa whoa!
by loodabagel
Nov 20th, 2006
08:32:44 PM
I tried to trick him by making a reasonable request? What a clown. Still no Batman review by the way. The guy's lazy. I'll give him some time. Until then, he should consider himself sold.
To my reviewer pals...
by loodabagel
Nov 20th, 2006
08:40:40 PM
I just finished reading American Gods. Quite the book. What didn't you see in it Buzz? Here's a great comic to review for this week, Squasha-Amazing Spider-Man. There was certainly a drop in quality from the last issue, but if you're into that kind of stuff, it certainly merits a look. I came across Harvey Pekar's graphic novel The Quitter recently. I've only got a Best of American Splendor book to compare it to (but it coitanly be a big one), but I'd say this new stuff is some of his best work ever.
The Falafel King
by Son of Batman
Nov 21st, 2006
12:20:36 AM
I walked into the Falafel King and there stood the King himself. I said, I'll have your Big Falafel Plate, being a fan of falafel. He made me a falafel and I sat down to eat it. I ate the falafel and it was awful. I said to the King, hey man, your falafel sucks. The King, he says, oh, yeah! Well make your own fucking falafel! I said to the King, I don't have to make my own falafel to know good falafel. So I go to Falafel-o-rama, right next door to the Falafel King. But I always call out to the King, whenever I walk by, hey man, your falafel sucks!
The Violator #1
by Shigeru
Nov 21st, 2006
10:16:18 AM
I remember buying this issue. Alan Moore wrote it? Seriously? You have to be shitting me. Let's see if I remember... Some mob goons toss Violator into the drink, complete with cement shoes. He grabs one by the tie with his mouth (?) and drags him down and shoots him, through the mouth out the back of the head. He then kills the other goons by shoving his hand through the head-hole and out the mouth. Then he goes to a mall and fights some GI Joe Punisher dude? Holy shit maybe Moore angered Glycon or something and had to pay penance?
Don't piss off Glycon…
by The Heathen
Nov 21st, 2006
10:50:51 AM
he's a nasty lil snake!
Well, Moore Had Vowed Not To Work For Marvel Or DC.
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 21st, 2006
11:28:41 AM
This was before he convinced himself that Wildstorm/ABC wasn't DC. So he did tons of work for guys like Liefield and McFarlane. At the same time, he did great stuff like FROM HELL, but even Alan Moore needs money. Actually, THE VIOLATOR wasn't the worst comic book in the world. It was fun. Had some good dark humor. But not worth the cover price and no one was waiting for that trade, bay-bee. I think it's a good example, though, of how without the name (which I'll admit was my reason for buying it) no one would have one near it. It read like a good (not great) writer doing a really lazy knock off of Garth Ennis...and that's being nice.
I Actually Agree With The Son of Jar Jar...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 21st, 2006
11:40:57 AM
...in regard to the argument about one not being required (or even able) to write a better review to know a bad review. I've used a similar argument myself whenever we get the childish response,"Can you make a better comic?" I always say, kind of like what you said,"I don't know. Even if I can't, it doesn't matter, because I've read a better comic." Or movie. I used to love driving the STAR WARS geeks crazy. "Can you do better that George Lucas, Buzz?" "Well, no I can't make a better movie, but I know I could write a better script, which in turn would allow George to make an even better movie." Generally, by now, though, we can tell the difference between people who genuinely don't like our reviews and people who just want to insult us. One thing we unofficially look for in a reviewer here is someone who has a strong self image...in and of themselves. Too many comic fans get their self image from the comics they read, the publisher they prefer or, weirdest of all, the guy who wrote the comics (because if comics are equal to other mediums, how many people will waste whole days defending the slightest criticism to David Ayer?). With a self image based on yerself, you review what you read. You don't say, "I'm gonna rip Grant Morrison a new one." The way we do it, we realize a)we don't even know Grant Morrison 2)we bought the comic ourselves so we're hoping for a good read and d)even if Grant/Alan/Brian/Bryan/Jeph/Ge off/Jeff/Jef have delivered or sucked before, this is a new book.
...
by blackthought
Nov 21st, 2006
12:08:07 PM
...
Alan Moore worked for Rob Liefield
by Shigeru
Nov 21st, 2006
12:14:33 PM
Wrap your head around that.

and thus, I want to touch a Wii.
Would Jar Jar Binks Make a Good President?
by Shigeru
Nov 21st, 2006
12:22:56 PM
My first inclination would be towards "no". He doesn't have a very solid background in politics. It was implied that he wasn't very well liked growing up in Gungan Underwater Bubble Town. How is he supposed to lead if he never got any respect?
He pretty much literally stumbled into being a Senator (not unlike some of ours, to be fair).
And wasn't he the first to bring up installing Palpatine as "Chancellor"? We all know how that turned out. Not only is he inadvertently responsible for the destruction of an entire planet ("The Alderaan Incedent") but the dude also sort of indirectly killed Natalie Portman. I'm just saying, not the kind of accolades I look for in a candidate.
I Don't Know If He'd Make A Good President, Shigeru...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 21st, 2006
12:46:58 PM
...but I like troll bashing him because I picture the "real" Jar Jar at a keyboard somewhere making "Yer Mom's a slut" jokes. I mean, he's one of the prequel's most beloved characters and everyone's favorite lop eared frog man, after Boss Nass, of course.
Vale: Alan Moore apologist?
by El Vale
Nov 21st, 2006
01:28:05 PM
No way man, facts are facts! Alan Moore didn't convince himself Wildstorm/ABC wasn't DC...when he first signed his contract with Jim Lee the whole DC buys Wildstorm thing hadn't happened. Moore signed contracts with writers and artists and developed a bunch of projects before Lee called him up to inform him of the sale, knowing of course that Moore wouldn't be happy. Even though the guy had his doubts, he was assured DC would have zero interference with his work, which ended up being a lie, as usual, because DC pulled that Cobweb story (i believe) for its refferences to famed Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. Mr. Moore, as you can imagine, wasn't happy.

Oh and working under Rob Liefeld he produced that wonderful Supreme run which is highly regarded among...nerds?
regarding Son of Jar Jar 4 Prez's Batman review
by The Heathen
Nov 21st, 2006
02:15:13 PM
I don't want a formal review or anything. I was just curious, like looda, about what such a Morrison scholar as yourself thought about his first four issues of Batman. If it's hard for you to enlighten us by speaking normal, I'm sure you can throw some Pwns in there or something homophobic or bigoted as your norm.
Vale, remember the V For Vendetta/All Things Alan Moore TB? Those were the day's. Did you finally ever see the movie?
I call Jar Jar Binks what he is:
by Shigeru
Nov 21st, 2006
02:21:16 PM
"A goofy fucking creole space rabbit." I see that more than frog man.

Jar Jar: I believe Mr. Maverik was referring to the prequels.
Responding Seriously To Jar Jar:...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 21st, 2006
04:04:58 PM
...well, actually to Shigeru: I can see the rabbit thing, but he's an amphibian. Of course, he doesn't exist so I guess on the planet Mongo, rabbits can be amphibians. Now, from what we know of rabbits, they are rascally (pronounced wascally) and that doesn't really fit the Jar Jar bill.
perhaps a…
by The Heathen
Nov 21st, 2006
04:21:31 PM
"goofy fucking creole space rabbit-frog." Maybe he gets the rabbit brand because of his big goofy eyes and long ears? A Bugs Bunny of sorts. So he could be a rabbit-frog type of thing. Regardless, he's to blame for the death of billions and the formation of the GALACTIC EMPIRE. Oh, Jar Jar.
Is something wrong with me?
by dregmobile
Nov 21st, 2006
04:48:08 PM
I read WATCHMEN for the first time the other day, and I didn't like it. I think this means that I'm not human ... I must be an alien or something. Or retarded. I mean - everyone worships this book, right?
Heath
by El Vale
Nov 21st, 2006
04:58:36 PM
Of course i saw the movie! Didn't i tell you guys? I thought it was okay...the best parts were lifted directly from the comic and the weakest parts well...weren't. I think the Wachowskis tried too hard to accomodate the story to fit current events in order to show the "uncanny parallels" between the original story and this new version, and ended up with something that was a lot more Bush than it should've been. The themes of the comic are still relevant today so i didn't really get why they needed to step all over them, but it was still a pretty decent time at the movies and it had Natalie Portman in it so...thanks? Shigeru knows what talking about.
Vale
by The Heathen
Nov 21st, 2006
05:42:04 PM
Nah, you never told us. I was sure you would have after our week long debate too! Yeah, I kinda agree. I liked the movie a lot, but I get you. The Wachowski's tend to be overly political sometimes. Not that I'm a fan of the current US administration, but yeah…

I know what you're talking about concerning Natalie. Oh sweet Natalie.
OK, I've Written 8 Screenplays Better Than The Prequels
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 21st, 2006
06:41:52 PM
I've also written 8 that were around the same level of most of the dreck we see. And I've written 8 that were worse than the worst dreck you've ever seen. Does this cover Looda & company writing a better comic book than Morrison. Morrison is a better comic book writer than Lucas is a screenwriter, so that might not fly. Now, if George would have ponied up the million, the custom Purdy shotgun with the engraving of my choice, and the new H2 packed solid with Cuban cigars, I would have been his script doctor. Actually, I probably shouldn't mention this because, I for one, don't want to see any reviews by Jar Jar. They're probably just as good and bad as all the other reviews around here, but I think we'll all agree that we have too many reviews and too much Jar Jar already.
BTW, I Think A Lot Of People Could Write Better...
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 21st, 2006
06:44:13 PM
...screenplays than Lucas. I'll bet a lot of people talk backing could. I will qualify this by saying that I, at least, could not tell a better story or make a better movie. I just know that I could have helped him make his movies better. As could many of us.
No sadder sight
by TheRevengeOfBayouWilly
Nov 21st, 2006
09:09:57 PM
Than the troll hanging around people that hate him, people that pity him... and yet continuing to do so. Having nowhere to go. Leading a sad, lonely life of taking shit from the 17-year old shift manager at Domino's, an eventual suicide undiscovered for several weeks. That's Jar Jar in a nutshell for ya!
I am actually in the process of writing a comic book...
by loodabagel
Nov 21st, 2006
09:44:35 PM
It's called The Adventures of Awkward Andy. He's a goofy character I invented. The book is a collection of short stories about his various misadventures in the town of Butte, Montana. Awkward Andy Gets a Tatoo, Awkward Andy guys a Record, Awkward Andy picks a fight, etc. I've so far written 2 stories of lengths of 3 and 6 pages and am in the process of writing my third and fourth. If I work at it, I'll get the thing done and publish it. Maybe sell it for a few bucks each, gain some neighborhood notoirety. Who knows?
...
by blackthought
Nov 21st, 2006
10:22:22 PM
speaking of writing i'm writing a self-help book about helping selves and self help stuff. and also a script about lucas writing a screenplay. i'm going to get into lucas' inner "voice" and bring it out to the masses because i truly believe no one has seen the true lucas...what he means, dreams, eats and all that jazz.
!
by loodabagel
Nov 21st, 2006
10:26:32 PM
username: Vog From Dimension X
Password: password
Want to turn over a new leaf? Want to say something mysterious? Well, now you can! With first ever official AICN anonymous username!
Wow looda
by El Vale
Nov 21st, 2006
11:09:19 PM
That's actually pretty awesome. About the anonymous username, i mean...the comic is cool too, keep us posted!
We don't want a Jar Jar review...
by stones_throw
Nov 22nd, 2006
04:23:37 AM
I just want to see him give some reasons for why Morrison's Batman was so great. He goes on about the poor standard of AICN Comics reviews and "considering the source" but I've yet to see him give a single explanation for a) his love of Morrison's Batman or b)hate of AICN Comics,which,oddly he continues to post on week after week.
stones_throw
by The Heathen
Nov 22nd, 2006
10:02:44 AM
absolutely my man.

looda! That is pretty cool. Maybe Awkward Andy could team up with Awesome Andy? Keep it up.

From hearing Buzz's versions of the prequels I must agree that I wish we had one of his many different versions that made soooo much more sense. It angers me so to realize that that will never happen.
...
by blackthought
Nov 22nd, 2006
10:50:19 AM
hmmm...
AWKWARD ANDY Sounds Cool
by Buzz Maverik
Nov 22nd, 2006
11:25:46 AM
I'd buy, read and positively review a comic like that! Good luck, man!
Why thank you Buzz!
by loodabagel
Nov 29th, 2006
10:02:25 AM
Last.
You can't stop the music.
by Squashua
Dec 1st, 2006
04:32:35 PM
Nobody can stop the music.
Taste the whip...
by loodabagel
Dec 5th, 2006
09:33:15 AM
Now bleeeeeeed for me. Oh to be young and Lou Reed again. Last.
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by Squashua
Dec 8th, 2006
01:08:14 PM
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