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Holy Smokes! A Pre-Trailer in progress of SPIDER-MAN 3 with VENOM FOOTAGE is now gone!!!

Holy stamps by Westonian	Nov 12th, 2006 12:24:28 PM
....
I can see Venom in Micheal Bay's Eyes... by Flummage	Nov 12th, 2006 12:25:39 PM
Micheal Bay: Damn you Venom!
SWEET by dead youngling	Nov 12th, 2006 12:26:10 PM
yeah
Awesome by dig_doug	Nov 12th, 2006 12:27:39 PM
Looks good; anyone know where this trailer came from? Is this a rough version of the theatrical trailer we'll see in the near future?
That should have been the trailer by ZakChase	Nov 12th, 2006 12:27:43 PM
Somebody has a choice to make and made the wrong decision.
Er ... "had a choice to make" by ZakChase	Nov 12th, 2006 12:28:19 PM
I meant.
Meh by DrTobiasFunke	Nov 12th, 2006 12:28:50 PM
Still looks meh to me
Cool by Pipple	Nov 12th, 2006 12:29:32 PM
looks pretty cool... still not liking sandman killing uncle ben though.
Damn... by Lucasblows	Nov 12th, 2006 12:30:40 PM
...that kicked the other trailers ass. Even incomplete.
Holy shit that was cool. by PwnedByStallone	Nov 12th, 2006 12:31:27 PM
Damn you Michael Bay.
My penis just grew another 18" by Boba Fat	Nov 12th, 2006 12:32:08 PM
Now to watch the trailer
Wheeeee!!!! by Nazzim O'Bazzim	Nov 12th, 2006 12:33:50 PM
Ok, very nice Venom jaws at the end there. Maybe now we'll hear less whining. And anyone who actually complains about the look of the CGI in a trailer for a movie that's not finished needs to look at this trailer and go "Ohhh.. they do these things one stage at a time. Maybe, just maybe, that other trailer's effects weren't quite complete either." There's an educational component in watching unfinished trailers like this...
am i the only.... by visitor_q	Nov 12th, 2006 12:34:09 PM
...person who thinks spiderman is way overrated?
Is this the trailer they showed at Comic-Con? by goonie	Nov 12th, 2006 12:36:58 PM
I think it is.
Who says Holy Smokes anymore? by Pipple	Nov 12th, 2006 12:37:56 PM
Damn you Michael Bay.
This will be removed in about one hour... by Ribbons	Nov 12th, 2006 12:38:01 PM
So, some weather we're having, huh?
now that ive seen him im so happy but dont want to see by wcoop893	Nov 12th, 2006 12:40:44 PM
any more of him until may 4th. this is probably the unfinished trailer that they are going to premiere before ghostrider, as well as the same thing they showed at comic con. screw the other trailer im just happy ive seen a little venom
Quite impressive by ipolo.	Nov 12th, 2006 12:41:54 PM
....
looks pretty good by waggy	Nov 12th, 2006 12:42:49 PM
it's remarkable how many of those shots from the trailer were completely CG that looked pretty freakin real to me. and venom looks great. hope he's in it more than they're letting on....
Popped my cookies by scrivener	Nov 12th, 2006 12:42:50 PM
That was fucking AWESOME. Also... if Sony asks you to remove this - please tell them to fuck themselves.
Freakin' wow by damagedinc	Nov 12th, 2006 12:43:20 PM
How awesome was that? (Haters need not apply)
WHOA! by El Scorcho	Nov 12th, 2006 12:46:52 PM
Fuck yes. Now I'm excited. That trailer on Thursday did nothing for me, but this...
and... by fractureJonze	Nov 12th, 2006 12:47:29 PM
We all just saw the last shot in the movie.
FAKE! by Richard J. Kimble	Nov 12th, 2006 12:49:08 PM
That was terrible.
That was awesome! by viola123	Nov 12th, 2006 12:51:30 PM
I loved it. And I haven't even watched Spider-Man 1 or 2. But I think I want to watch this. Is that how Venom looks like? What gives him the power to change? Also, there's a shot of someone falling and Spider-Man following, at like I think 1:52, is that Gwen Stacy? Is that how he meets her? ... And is James Franco, he knows Peter is Spider-Man? Why doesn't he tell people? Anyway, great trailer. I can't wait to see the finished product. Although, why are hey coming up with another one? The other was really good. I'm not complaining!
I give it 4-8 hours by B0BAFETTISH	Nov 12th, 2006 12:52:07 PM
And this baby'll be gone. But you'll still be able to see it on the SuperheroHype boards after.
Deliberate leak or not? by dr_buggerlugs	Nov 12th, 2006 12:52:19 PM
All the carping about Venom not being in the trailer may have prompted Sony to put this out as a 'leak' - they'll probably withdraw it in an hour or two but it'll be enough to keep people talking until the next trailer...or indeed the completed version of this one.
Oh and by B0BAFETTISH	Nov 12th, 2006 12:52:58 PM
the SIMPSONS movie trailer TONIGHT!!
Sweet by Leopold Scotch	Nov 12th, 2006 12:56:23 PM
So does Venom show up after sandman is dealt with? I agree, it is so much cooler than the last trailer.
If this is a fake, it's a good one! by DerLanghaarige	Nov 12th, 2006 01:00:17 PM
Seriously!
F'in SWEEEEEET by randalmcmurphy	Nov 12th, 2006 01:00:58 PM
except the plot looks like it will be a convoluted mess. the sweet effects will way outshine the story, though. Who goes to Spidey for deepness? They'd better give us plenty of venom and not just make him a footnote in the end.
South Park by scrivener	Nov 12th, 2006 01:12:26 PM
...wasn't venom in the finished Spider-Man 3 trailer after last week's South Park?
Geez, the FX aren't much better in the other trailer by Doc_Strange	Nov 12th, 2006 01:13:26 PM
Whoever is doing the FX work for this movie needs to be replaced with ILM or Weta. And they also need to learn some physics cause the way Spidey moves just doesn't look right to the trained eye.
so... by Fabulous Freak	Nov 12th, 2006 01:17:51 PM
It looks like Peter tears off the suit on the roof of the cathedral, it leaks down inside and drips onto topher's head, attaches itself to him, he looks up -Venom- Roll Credits. Thanks for blowing it for me.
Zakchase is right, this by The Funk	Nov 12th, 2006 01:22:17 PM
Zakchase is right, this should have been the trailer Sony put out, not the one form last week. & by the way Sony, no-one cares about Sandman......
GOLDEN SH*T ON A STICK! by sillypig	Nov 12th, 2006 01:24:30 PM
My god Spider-man 3 has just taken the lead in my all time "can't wait to see that" movie. The first one being Spider-man 1. Venom looks amazing!! I'm so glad Raimi didn't do a Brian Singer on us here. (As good as X-men was... it wasn't X-men.)
I think sony blundered last week by emeraldboy	Nov 12th, 2006 01:26:31 PM
They should have not given us the trailer last week if it wasnt ready.
Redemption by CarbonGhost	Nov 12th, 2006 01:28:07 PM
thursday's trailer was okay ,that that was the shit, and the cg was'nt even complete
ANT FARM by TheBaxter	Nov 12th, 2006 01:28:50 PM
fuck spider-man 3, ANT FARM will be the sleeper hit of the summer!
but they could have by emeraldboy	Nov 12th, 2006 01:29:13 PM
been testing the water. and I suspect that is what happened. The reaction has been mixed. The third trailer will rock.
funny by AllieJamison	Nov 12th, 2006 01:31:13 PM
looks like a response to the "bad effects" and "no venom" talkback
Fabulous Freak by sillypig	Nov 12th, 2006 01:32:53 PM
"It looks like Peter tears off the suit on the roof of the cathedral, it leaks down inside and drips onto topher's head, attaches itself to him, he looks up -Venom- Roll Credits. Thanks for blowing it for me." The main thing is... Raimi may well know how predictable the whole thing is and he is just out to make a damn good movie. Afterall Spider-man's history is already done in the comics and we virtually know whats going to happen. All Raimi has to do is change bits here and there... So the trailer giving up major plots and structure doesn't matter... If Spider-man was laying a Spider-turd.. We'd still go and see it.
Harry Didn't Even Give Me Credit... by HyperKnight23	Nov 12th, 2006 01:33:14 PM
...For Sending Him The Clip. I sent him the trailer earlier this morning.
Should have been the trailer by Thoreau	Nov 12th, 2006 01:35:04 PM
This a much better trailer than the one posted! It has more intensity and just overall pacing and coolness... also, Venom is a great tease.
Pretty much a perfect trailer! by tile_mcgillus	Nov 12th, 2006 01:35:33 PM
That was amazing.
That's a trailer.... by dead000	Nov 12th, 2006 01:45:34 PM
That should've been the trailer. Oh boy, that HAD to be a deliberate leak.
So I guess Raimi really doesn't like Venom.... by Praetor	Nov 12th, 2006 01:48:53 PM
Since he can introduce the character for 5 seconds and then bow out of the series before some shmuck turns part four into Hulk 2.
Don't think this is the Comic-Con trailer by resident01	Nov 12th, 2006 01:52:04 PM
The Comic-Con one showed transformation shots of Topher, but not a final image of Venom. Also the church scene was slightly longer in the CC one, and took place in the beginning. Less Sandman as well. This is a different trailer. Cool though. I personally like the effects shown off in both trailers. To me they look better than Spidey 2, and lightyears ahead of Spidey 1.
Well, will this be released when completed? by viola123	Nov 12th, 2006 01:52:18 PM
Or is this the trailer we got before it was edited down? Because, that's not right. I agree, this one is superior and hopefully, it'll be released. Might as well. What's the difference? :)
Of course... by Brendon	Nov 12th, 2006 01:59:28 PM
...this was on film ick hours ago. And film ick also have the comprehensive, spoilery explanation of how these scenes and images fit into the film's plot. filmick.blogspot.com
Fabulous Freakin' dumbass by gomezvsrufio	Nov 12th, 2006 01:59:44 PM
"It looks like Peter tears off the suit on the roof of the cathedral, it leaks down inside and drips onto topher's head, attaches itself to him, he looks up -Venom- Roll Credits. Thanks for blowing it for me." - You escribed that scene pretty well, EXCEPT THAT NO CREDITS ROLLED, YOU JACKASS. That's obviously not the final shot at all. And you're a complete moron if you still believe that. Did you not watch the last trailer? With Peter in his RED spidey suit surrounded/being strangled by BLACK webbing ? Obviously, the film's finale includes a battle with Venom, ass.
WOW by Dasher	Nov 12th, 2006 02:03:32 PM
This was great. I'm assuming this will run during the Super Bowl? Even as a work-in-progress, it was better than the trailer they just recently released.
We can see Peter in the red and spoilers? by DrLektor	Nov 12th, 2006 02:04:23 PM
He's "battle damaged" with some sort of black thread wrapped around his neck. Answer me this, does Spidey take the blows during his fight with Sandman or the Goblin? Not by the looks of these trailers because he's all in black when he fights them. The Way I see it, Peter is worshiped by the people of New York, is set to marry MJ but finds out Ben may have been murdered by Flint so he goes a bit moody. The black costume takes advantage of his weakness and takes him over, he flushes his life down the crapper by dealing with Sandy, just in time for Harry to get his kicks in. Putting the two criminals down so harshly and neglecting MJ causes Peter to rethink things and ditch the black duds, going back to the red and blue. Except Brock is taken over now. Cue the climactic battle which we've seen a few brief shots of, Venom will fight Spidey and end the movie on a devastating cliff hanger, probably the death of not one, but two major characters. Just a guess
Venom probably has more like ten minutes of screen time by eg4190	Nov 12th, 2006 02:08:36 PM
I highly doubt Brock turns into Venom in the last five minutes before the credits, because the cathedral scene wouldn't exactly make a huge climax for the movie. More likely, Peter rips off the symbiote at the end of the second act, then has to defeat Sandman and Venom in the blue-and-red costume without any of his black suit powers. Venom will probably feature in one major action scene and then be left alive for future installments. Structurally, I don't see any way to bring him in earlier without rushing the black suit storyline.
That was fun, but by INWOsuxRED	Nov 12th, 2006 02:10:42 PM
I wish they didn't show us anything for this movie. Its Spider-Man 3, you don't need to show anything, people are going to go see it.
Wolverine? by CarbonGhost	Nov 12th, 2006 02:20:03 PM
Did I see Wolverine?
Bobby McFerrin raped my grandmother! by DreamIsOver	Nov 12th, 2006 02:25:46 PM
Had to say it. That trailer is alot better than the offical one
Damn, FLV Encoder won't convert this file... by JackPumpkinhead	Nov 12th, 2006 02:38:16 PM
I wanted to see Venom in a proper video player, but I can only view this crap in FLV Player now. Anything else other than FLVE that can actually convert this to a normal video?
SNIKT by sickboy_ukuk	Nov 12th, 2006 02:40:15 PM
Did i just see wolvies claws in that?
Another $29 million for Borat! by INWOsuxRED	Nov 12th, 2006 02:40:42 PM
Congradulations to the glorious nation of Kazakhstan
It's pretty clear that Venom by Negator76	Nov 12th, 2006 02:44:38 PM
It's pretty clear that Venom and Spidey fight at the end. Spidey is shown in his red and blues, surrounded by black webbing. Duh. Also, he never fights Sandman and Harry together. He fights Harry halfway through the movie, and later enlists Harry to help him put down Sandman and Venom. Just remember, I toldja so.
By the way... by JackPumpkinhead	Nov 12th, 2006 02:53:25 PM
...Venom dies in this one. :) Which doesn't mean the producers won't demand his return in the new parts; they obviously know Venom is the only reason why anyone is remotely interested in this movie at all.
This is a better trailer... by Deadwood Dan	Nov 12th, 2006 03:02:03 PM
...although, if you're in the business of getting families to come, you don't want to hint at how frightening it (ie Venom) will be. I only ever enjoyed the movies in the theater. Their continued enjoyment on DVD is negligible. But I would still see this flick no matter what - it's got Venom!
this is NOT the Comic-Con trailer, but it's similar. by iamnicksaicnsn	Nov 12th, 2006 03:06:42 PM
The Comic-Con trailer started out with Topher asking that Parker be killed. Then it was more of a mature, slow-burn, trailer. And then, of course, it led into the Bell Tower scene with Peter trying to take the suit off, the suit dripping down onto Brock, and him falling down, becoming Venom, and the whole "flying into the mouth" shot.
Venom by DOGSOUP	Nov 12th, 2006 03:06:46 PM
Sweet. Thats it.
oh shit! by hesh monster	Nov 12th, 2006 03:10:30 PM
That was soooo coool. I may just have wet myself. Venom looks so bad ass even the "haters" will have to admit that they nailed his design. Also someone, I would do it but dont have video editing software, should take the complete scenes from the official trailer that we see in this one and splice together a more complete trailer. Go sam you the man!
Venom fights Spider-man at the end of this movie by AlwaysThere	Nov 12th, 2006 03:12:24 PM
It occurs during the construction zone fight. Venom's webbing can be clearly seen in the OFFICIAL trailer that came out on Thursday.
"Please kill Peter Parker." Awesome by Darth Bauer	Nov 12th, 2006 03:13:24 PM
"And please kill Red if he calls me a dumb ass ever again."
Somebody at The Ant Farm is getting fired. by dimnix	Nov 12th, 2006 03:20:14 PM
But a big THANK YOU! to whoever the soon-to-be-unemployed fella is who leaked this. Venom looks perfect. And this is overall a better trailer, possibly the one that will be attached to Ghost Rider?
hyperknight by HEADGEEK	Nov 12th, 2006 03:30:12 PM
you were the 5th to email me it. The first person was somone that asked to not be credited.
Those people who ask to not be credited by DOGSOUP	Nov 12th, 2006 03:33:23 PM
are the real heroes. They just love the stuff not looking for credit cookies to choke on.
Venom In Quicktime! by spidermanfreak20	Nov 12th, 2006 03:36:26 PM
Here is just the venom clip in glorious quicktime http://www.tg3h.com/episodes/V enomclipsound.mov
I am a huge fan of the Spider-Man movies by CoursinLarry	Nov 12th, 2006 03:49:33 PM
And I have liked all of the trailers for them so far. But the weakest one has to be the one that is going on Casino Royale. This trailer, however, is one of the best. If Sony likes money, they should have finished this one up in time for Casino Royale.
Holy crap that rocked! by Bean_	Nov 12th, 2006 04:03:29 PM
THAT'S the trailer I wanted to see!
Holy shit!!!!!! by DarthJedi	Nov 12th, 2006 04:07:08 PM
Why oh why didn't they use THAT one for the actual trailer? Even with the unfinished FX, that one gave me shivers. The real one was ok and showed some cool stuff, but this one just out and out rocked! Come on May 4th!!!!
sweet baby jesus.... by the_shogun_gunslinger	Nov 12th, 2006 04:13:27 PM
THAT was FUCKING AWESOME!!! damn, Sony fucked up big by not showing that on thursday. this trailer makes this feel EPIC. thursdays actually was kinda "meh"-ish. maybe theyll finish it for the 2nd official trailer. awesome shit
OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!! by Darth Thoth	Nov 12th, 2006 04:18:11 PM
Now THAT should have been the trailer, incomplete FX and all. I don't care. That was HOT!!! Now, it is officially on!!!
Wowaweewa by Neo Technic	Nov 12th, 2006 04:24:41 PM
A very nice. In my country we toast fermented horse urine to shots like that. "In my country there is problem, and that problem is the Parker... Throw the Peter down the well, so Venom can be free... and we have big party." Very nice.
Now the only question is... by Shermdawg	Nov 12th, 2006 04:31:38 PM
Does Tobey say "We are Venom"?
The preview itself kinda sucked... by Ribbons	Nov 12th, 2006 04:36:30 PM
Of course it had the money shot at the end, but I'm glad Sony went with the other one. "All will be lost... unless he confronts the past... and faces the darkness within." In a world where your mommy kills animals...
WTF? I just Googled Venom and... by Shermdawg	Nov 12th, 2006 04:48:31 PM
Scorpion is Venom in 616 nowadays??? WTF??? God, I'm kinda glad I ditched comics after Age of Apocalypse.
http://video.google.com/videopla y?docid=586675739657699 by ajtk210	Nov 12th, 2006 05:11:54 PM
http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=5866757396576992173& q=spiderman+3+trailer&hl=en
does anyone get the feeling by slappy jones	Nov 12th, 2006 05:16:25 PM
that maybe they don't want to advertise venom too much because he only appears right at the end of the film as cliffhanger ending for the next film??? because that is what I am starting to think...sandman is obviously the main villain - venom is all set up for spider-man 4
Somebody post this up somewhere! by Red Diver	Nov 12th, 2006 05:17:46 PM
Anyone got the full trailer mirror anywhere? That shot of Venom looked awesome, should have been in the one Thursday.
The links in here are all defunct now by Smashing	Nov 12th, 2006 05:19:37 PM
Anyone got another please?
Oh, they'll let it leak by chrth	Nov 12th, 2006 05:20:44 PM
They just don't want AICN to benefit from it.
V Very Clever by spidermanfreak20	Nov 12th, 2006 05:33:38 PM
To See Venom he he
ahem by tibbar	Nov 12th, 2006 05:35:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =A5l9fEBs4m8
sweet ass!! by El Borak	Nov 12th, 2006 05:55:55 PM
venom rules.
Last weekend was an huge error by emeraldboy	Nov 12th, 2006 05:56:23 PM
That Sony will live to regret. If the trailer wasnt read than they shouldd nor have released. The reaction was mixed anyhow. those who liked it liked it. those who didnt didnt. The third one will be the definitive trailer and by then they should have all the problems fixed. but I seem to remember, that with the last two movies they did release test footage. to give us a flavour of what the wall crawling scenes were going to be like. and so on.....
THE YOUTUBE VIDEO IS STILL AVAILABLE!!! by tbdeinc	Nov 12th, 2006 06:00:11 PM
Here is the link directly: http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?v ideo_id=A5l9fEBs4m8&eurl=&iurl =http%3A//sjl-static3.sjl.yout ube.com/vi/A5l9fEBs4m8/2.jpg&t =OEgsToPDskKDE5L_xKR-Dn0L6t0P- -ux
THE YOUTUBE VIDEO IS STILL AVAILABLE!!! by tbdeinc	Nov 12th, 2006 06:01:37 PM
Here is the TINYURL: http://tinyurl.com/ycdvbc
Here it is on another site by mpfanatic	Nov 12th, 2006 06:02:40 PM
This is the same end that they showed at Comic Con. I was there so I can confirm that http://community.livejournal.c om/ohnotheydidnt/9504899.html
well... by tibbar	Nov 12th, 2006 06:02:52 PM
i was trying to be hush-hush about it, as to not get it removed from you tube too soon.
There's no white spider on Venom by Monkey Butler	Nov 12th, 2006 06:07:00 PM
OK, that's fucking IT!!! Raimi has fucked up just one time too many. It's like that in the comic, so it should be like that in the movie. Fuck you Raimi, you've just ruined this entire fucking movie for me. This was my most anticipated film of next year, but because Raimi fucked up Venom's look I'm not even going to bother. Fuck your revisionist bullshit Raimi. Yeah and that means organic webshooters too. Whoever heard of a guy being bitten by a genetically engineered Spider and being able to shoot webbing. WTF? Clearly, this is all sarcasm on my part. The clip looks rad.
People who like Venom.... by MattCG	Nov 12th, 2006 06:11:36 PM
....fuck small animals. True fact.
does anybody have a link... by abiggerboat	Nov 12th, 2006 06:15:48 PM
that actually works?!
A quick and crude animated gif of Venom I made... by Orionsangels	Nov 12th, 2006 06:29:01 PM
For those that didn't see it and Sony if ya take it down. I'm just putting it up again. You can't stop the Internet Dwellers. Spread the word my people! http://tinyurl.com/y6p6hp
Freaking awsome..I am impressed by Vansmack13	Nov 12th, 2006 06:29:27 PM
It still works as of 7:30 pm. I wonder if SONY is afraid of scaring the parents off from bringing there young kids. I am pleasently suprised how fierce and true to the comic he looks..dam fine job.
In a previous Spider-man trailer talkback... by Orionsangels	Nov 12th, 2006 06:31:45 PM
You'll see I predicted the Venom into the mouth shot. Crazy. It could still be the end of the movie. So don't get too excited.
"make it rare and seemingly by AllieJamison	Nov 12th, 2006 06:32:46 PM
"make it rare and seemingly unattainable" may be a great marketing coup. but who cares as long as this is just great.
Thanks Orionsangels by MontyPigeon	Nov 12th, 2006 06:35:32 PM
For putting up the link again.
we've been discussing the head proportions in the zone by bebop_chick	Nov 12th, 2006 06:37:23 PM
Personally, I think it looks representative of the comics, but others disagree. Regardless, here are some screen shots: http://zone.aintitcool.com/vie wtopic.php?p=300821#300821
let's try that again by bebop_chick	Nov 12th, 2006 06:40:28 PM
better link, hopefully: http://tinyurl.com/y5ou8c
BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! by the_shogun_gunslinger	Nov 12th, 2006 06:42:05 PM
C'mon, Sony! let these poor kids have a taste of what you fucked them from seeing on thursday...mean old bastards. dont they realize that Venom is the main draw and that most of us think that Sandman is a 3rd stringer Spidey villain? classic?...some might say he is but i say a guy made of sand is less believable than a guy with a symbiote, alien or synthetic
To everyone who thinks Venom will only by ajtk210	Nov 12th, 2006 06:43:28 PM
Be in the last shot. You're stupid. You ignore evidence. Spiderman in his red and blues being choked by a BLACK WEBBING. MJ in a DUMPTRUCK in a GIANT BLACK WEBBING. The last fight is supposed to be in a construction site. No to mention the comic-con panel where Dunst basically confirmed that Venom would kidnap her and Topher talked about what a bitch it was putting the VENOM costume on during filming. Rami stating that he liked the direction they were taking Venom. After confirming that Venom would be a villian in THIS MOVIE.(this isnt some super-secret plot to suprise us all) He's not going to announce Venom only to show him in the last shot, don't be douchebags. Basically my point in this: There is VERY VERY VERY VERY STRONG EVIDENCE POINTING TO THE FACT THAT VENOM WILL ACTUALLY BE A VILLIAN IN THIE MOVIE AND NOT JUST MAKE A CAMEO. And there is NO EVIDENCE TO POINT OTHERWISE. Basically STOP IGNORGING FUCKING EVIDENCE AND COMING UP WITH RETARDED HALF-ASSED THEORIES. VENOM WILL BE IN SPIDERMAN 3. HE WILL HAVE A PART. HE WILL FIGHT SPIDERMAN. HE WILL NOT BE A 1 SHOT CAMEO. DAMN IT PEOPLE. PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION. TONS OF PEOPLE HAVE POSTED THESE FACTS YET THE VERY NEXT POST WILL BE SOME FUCKTARD TALKING ABOUT VENOM BEING IN THE MOVIE FOR 30 SECONDS.
We mean Venom in his body form ajtk210! by Orionsangels	Nov 12th, 2006 06:49:52 PM
Who cares about some black gook or tar runnin around town or latching on to spiderman. We want venom in his monster form.
Another link by Orionsangels	Nov 12th, 2006 06:52:25 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yc6c7a
Rant Breath- by RenoNevada2000	Nov 12th, 2006 06:54:46 PM
The organic webshooters are a holdover from Cameron's scriptment. You can't hold Raimi totally responsible for that... unless you're an unhinged lunatic with little to no grasp of reality.
Higher quality downloadable version here: by michaelberliner	Nov 12th, 2006 06:57:57 PM
http://tinyurl.com/v55gn
Venom and Mary Jane by antonphd	Nov 12th, 2006 07:03:40 PM
Yeah, no doubts that they didn't want to show that bit of Peter pushing Mary Jane down and the scary Venom to parents on TV.
Wow by Smashing	Nov 12th, 2006 07:07:03 PM
Now that was cool, sounds like a very angry animal, I snapped a screen grab and downloaded it to my phone, I am much more excited by this trailer, cant wait, but have to. Thanks for extra links.
I don't know if that was ever meant to be seen by more by iamnicksaicnsn	Nov 12th, 2006 07:18:33 PM
than the Comic-Con crowd... It's clear that his birth won't look exactly like that, with the shot going into his mouth and all. I dunno, I guess we'll see from here.
ajtk210 by Shermdawg	Nov 12th, 2006 07:18:34 PM
For the love of god, calm down. You don't need to keep reminding us. Just face it, some people would rather come up with bullshit predictions, than give in and read the spoilers. Just take a deep breath and let it go. It's not worth getting all bent out of shape about it. btw, Venom will only be in the film for 30secs. ;)
MattCG = small animal by Kai_Mah'gra	Nov 12th, 2006 07:21:28 PM
.....truer fact!!
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Nov 12th, 2006 07:26:56 PM
Sony fucked themselves in the ass by not releasing that trailer... wow.. wow... wow....
Here Ye Here Ye Get Yer Quicktime Here! by spidermanfreak20	Nov 12th, 2006 07:33:08 PM
I'd suggest saving the file the moment it's done and maybe re uploading if you get the chance. I'm sure the bandwidth will be exceeded. So for those fortunate enough save and resubmit to Youtube,Vsocial,Vimeo,or Google Video Under S3LEAK Here is the link http://www.tg3h.com/episodes/s 3leak.mov
Keep in mind by spidermanfreak20	Nov 12th, 2006 07:34:28 PM
s 3leak...there is a space between just unspace it duh! same goes for the Venom clip.
Sigh, we're worried Venom gets Darth Maul treatment by Drath	Nov 12th, 2006 07:42:47 PM
What about THAT doesn't make sense? Yes, most of us see the black webbing, most of us read that Venom would be in the last act/fight of the movie and then be killed off too. We'd actually prefer if he wasn't used if that's all we'd get from him. Not only is Venom potentially underused, but so too are Sandman and Harry as the Green Goblin if they are just partial players in the movie. This is a very real possibility, and hence the tendency to hope for more. If Venom is in the last ten minutes AND set up for the next movie, then great. I'm betting we'll hear a lot of backlashing about how people don't want another symbiote-centered movie after this one though, so we may just neve get the Predator style tension that could come from Venom in a whole movie.
Fantastic! by jegoing74	Nov 12th, 2006 07:44:37 PM
See Michael Bay! You can be true to the characters while they look bleeping awsome on screen!
SONY, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SANDMAN by Pipple	Nov 12th, 2006 07:49:39 PM
VENOM IS WHAT'S GOING TO SELL MORE TICKETS.
Looks like the Host pulled them by spidermanfreak20	Nov 12th, 2006 07:51:09 PM
Check back on this topic for other links.
What's wrong with Venom? by Ribbons	Nov 12th, 2006 07:53:11 PM
I really don't get purists sometimes. Conceptually speaking, is he really any lamer of a villain than, say, Kraven the Hunter? Kraven was never as overexposed, of course, but still...
Kai_Mah'gra? by MattCG	Nov 12th, 2006 07:57:22 PM
Venom sucks, dude. Accept it and move on.
Dear GOD by clockpolitiks	Nov 12th, 2006 08:05:26 PM
So is this going to be the final trailer? Jesus, it gave me goosebumps. Fucking awesome.
MattCG by Neo Technic	Nov 12th, 2006 08:06:21 PM
People who don't like venom get fucked by large, hairy, male animals in the ass and mouth. Then they ask for seconds. True fact.
Hear, hear ajtk210 - I agree completely - and add this by Spacejockey426	Nov 12th, 2006 08:13:07 PM
Most everyone is saying he will be relegated to an end of the film cameo, but I say what the fuck do any of you know? I say he has more screen time than any of those motherfucking naysayers have said. Remember - Raimi knows the character of Spider-Man, and has two well-done feature films under his directorial belt. He also has an uncharacteristic genuine affection for the fans. I am positive he knows they want to see Venom fully realized on the screen, post haste. I do not beleive, even on that basis alone, that he will mother fuck us with a 5 minute armored Vader Sith deal.
Rant Breath by Ribbons	Nov 12th, 2006 08:33:00 PM
And when you say "uninspired," you mean...?
Neo Technic? by MattCG	Nov 12th, 2006 08:37:32 PM
It's late. I'm sure your sister is asleep and that precious window of REM sleep where you can slip your teeny pecker into her without waking her is closing every second. Go do that and remember: Venom is the most overrated, piece of shit character in comic history. Except for Spawn. It's hard to outsuck the master. But, I'm sure your sister's nipples will argue that.
I'm loving this Venom sucks/rocks debate... by Ribbons	Nov 12th, 2006 08:41:03 PM
Pretty soon you guys are gonna run out of animals to accuse one another of having sex with...
Well, none of the links work... by Zeke25:17	Nov 12th, 2006 08:42:56 PM
...and the YouTube one has been stuck on "loading" for about ten minutes now...so I'm just gonna figger that it looked way cool. Venom wasn't around when I read Spidey regularly; but I've always liked the look of the character when I've glimpsed him: looks like a damn fine character to me! I do hope he's given more of a screen life than Darth Maul was...oh, and why is everyone invoking Michael Bay's name in this talkback?
Venom would NOT be predator-style tension. by W3bzpinn3r	Nov 12th, 2006 08:49:58 PM
There is nothing sneaky or stealthy about Venom. He is in-you-face ferocity. Sure, he can camoflage the suit once in a while, to add an extra panel or two to a comic, but every issue with Venom follows the same formula: Venom gets loose Venom taunts Peter or his loved ones Venom beats the tar out of Spidey Spidey uses wits/friends to beat Venom Venom is one of the most unique villains. He is the first villain in comics to exist SOLELY to kill the hero. Most villains have a fiendish plot that the hero just happens to show up and ruin, whereas with Venom, his whole reason for existance is killing Spidey. That's what makes Venom unique. Until they butchered him in the late 90's, he was easily Spidey's most fearsome foe.
cough by tibbar	Nov 12th, 2006 08:55:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =A5l9fEBs4m8
GET IT HERE!!! by Stone316	Nov 12th, 2006 08:59:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =00-d0nirwGw&mode=related&sear ch= The Spider trailer with unfinished footage and Venom
Working YouTube Link.... For Now by DarthDooku	Nov 12th, 2006 09:01:09 PM
The links above don't seem to be working, check this out- http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=00-d0nirwGw Very quick glance of Venom, but looks interesting.
I can still see it... by Stone316	Nov 12th, 2006 09:07:43 PM
...I just cant ad it to the favorites list.
I can still see it... by Stone316	Nov 12th, 2006 09:07:53 PM
...I just cant add it to the favorites list.
how links work.... by tibbar	Nov 12th, 2006 09:15:54 PM
you have to remove the space from the link, people... duh
Stone316. thank you! by Zeke25:17	Nov 12th, 2006 09:27:39 PM
Unfinished footage or not, that was great...would it have killed Sony to include that one-second shot of Venom at the end?
I hate to say it by leavittj1982	Nov 12th, 2006 09:45:05 PM
But that's a just-pre-credits shot if I ever saw one. What that does mean, however, is that this will be like the second LOTR movie, where EVERYTHING looks damned. I didn't want to, but now I almost totally buy Venom not being in the movie. On the plus side, I was able to pause it at the very end. For the fraction of a second that he's in there, Venom looks like just about everything we'd ever hoped for. Hahaha, I remember a few weeks ago when I thought he wouldn't have a jaw.
4 second Venom clip on YOUTUBE looks... by uberman	Nov 12th, 2006 09:45:52 PM
Simply fantastic. I also thought the Spidy III trailor looks great. Always enjoyed the Spidy flicks, but was/am dissapointed with his ability to stop friggin TRAINS-for god sakes, hes not the Hulk! At least, the spidy I grew up on was not-he was agile and strong but not 'stop a train' strong like in II and he was also kinda fragil so he had to be whip smart and fast, not brute strong like some of the stuff Raimi has attributed to him. Minor quips though. I still liked em all. Hope Raimi gets back into EVIL DEAD type of directing and camera work. Venom surely calls for that old manic energy his early films displayed-just on the edge of being out of control.
ahhh The Ant Farm... by Obscura	Nov 12th, 2006 09:46:19 PM
same people who did those great LOTR and kong trailers for jackson. They really do know their trailers. sony obviously dont. thursdays trailer was so badly edited even my girlfriend noticed how bad it was.
hoping they don't overdo #3 by kname2	Nov 12th, 2006 09:47:18 PM
venom was a good idea in the comics initially and then they ruined him...for this film they are going to have to throw away his entire comics origin...secret wars anyone?...why bother calling him venom? this is strictly a move to appease fanboys of the venom era...i'll wait to see the film before passing judgement, but i have a bad feeling about this one...3 villians?, upturning ben parker's death from the comics and films?, the gwen/mj mess? smells like batman and robin so far...i hope they don't ruin this one with too many storylines/characters
Dear Sony, by Christopher3	Nov 12th, 2006 09:47:35 PM
What the hell is going on over there? Exploding laptop batteries, rootkits, delayed PS3 launches, and pricefixing... now this. Come on.
Wow. by Spuncho	Nov 12th, 2006 09:51:37 PM
I honestly hope Venom appears at the end as a setup for a film entirely devoted to Venom as the villain. I'd rather not split my attention between Harry/Green Goblin, Sandman, and Venom. If Spidey kicks Sandman's ass using the black suit, and we get a Venom cliffhanger at the end, that's fine with me. I think the black webbing coming out of Peter's head and MJ being caught in black webbing are both part of a symbiote-induced dream sequence.
BTW by leavittj1982	Nov 12th, 2006 09:52:23 PM
The organic webshooters were the single greatest improvement upon Spider-Man since he first appeared. I mean, the comic's spiderman can't even spin a web, a spider's most popular attribute. But yeah, they should blow up a still from that last shot of Venom and make it into a poster, because it's the only shot of Venom I think we're going to see in this movie.
You guys really ought to know... by Ribbons	Nov 12th, 2006 09:58:08 PM
...that Venom is going to fight Spider-Man in this movie. Did you not see Mary Jane stuck in black webbing in the preview? It's cool to get jazzed about future films (even if a hypothetical 'Spider-Man 4' is about 4 years away...), but you should know that Venom is not introduced solely as a lead-in to a sequel so that you're not pissed at Raimi come May.
Ribbons is right... by kname2	Nov 12th, 2006 10:05:02 PM
i think this venom will be a one off to quieten the venom-fanboys...raimi is an old school spidey fan...i don't think he'll spend any more time than he has to with venom...at least i hope so...venom's history will have to be altered totally from the comics...there is no way to do the secret wars to venom storyline...if i were a venom fan i'd leave him on the written page...there is too much to lose in the translation to film
ben's death by El Borak	Nov 12th, 2006 10:26:49 PM
everyone keeps bitching about spidey's uncle being killed by the sandman. they only SAY it in the trailer. that doesn't mean it's true.
MattCG = still a very small animal..... by Kai_Mah'gra	Nov 12th, 2006 10:34:25 PM
......fucked by large hairy male animals. Search your heart. You know this to be true......
on the subject of non-organic web shooters by smackfu	Nov 12th, 2006 10:39:17 PM
You know, it really is grossly unrealistic and just plain ridiculous in concept that a kid who gets bit by a spider and gets spider powers co-incidentally in the span of a couple of days is able to develop some kind of webbing-like space age polymer. ESPECIALLY when it's completely reasonable that the radioactive spiderbite gave him the webbing ability. I mean we're already taking it on faith that a spiderbite can somehow give someone all these other features of a spider, why not this one?
Where can I find it? by valetparkingguy	Nov 12th, 2006 10:43:59 PM
Some of those links it's already down. Help?
Why so angry MattCG? by Neo Technic	Nov 12th, 2006 11:01:29 PM
Getting tired of eating Ox cum every week? Or is that Rhinocerous dick up your ass starting to hurt..... Wow, I feel like I'm in 7th grade again. Just know, at the end of the day, I get a Spiderman movie with Venom. So you lose. Thats the important thing. You lose bear bate.
I said it before by arrangedletters	Nov 12th, 2006 11:04:23 PM
You can go back and look but I have always said Venom will be at the very end and setup for the next flick. As for MJ in the web that's the love web from the preview.
wow.. by decfx	Nov 12th, 2006 11:09:01 PM
not one fucking link worked.
No its not the fucking love web retard. by ajtk210	Nov 12th, 2006 11:14:08 PM
Watch the other trailer, the one from a few days ago. She's in a fucking BLACK webbing while in a fucking DUMP TRUCK. I swear the fucking level of fucktardedness with these thick-headed talkbackers is reaching extreme heights.
ajtk by arrangedletters	Nov 12th, 2006 11:31:05 PM
another jackass to kill? She's not rapped by it as you can see her holding it you fucktacular fuckityfuck fuckwad.
ajtk by arrangedletters	Nov 12th, 2006 11:31:13 PM
another jackass to kill? She's not trapped by it as you can see her holding it you fucktacular fuckityfuck fuckwad.
http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/wo rds-103 by LittleDudes	Nov 12th, 2006 11:36:29 PM
Venom glimpse. Remove the spaces. http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ words-103 freakin' sweet! http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ words-103
ajtk210.. again .. take your meds... by Freefinger	Nov 12th, 2006 11:37:59 PM
Geezuss.. this guy reaaaallly like shouting at peopel and telling them how stupid they are... Must be a Rent-a-cop who hasn't had sex in a while... Geeezuss... Why do they continue to kill all the villains in these fu**ing Spiderman movies? If they continue this Spidey will be fighting the freaking "Postal-Worker-Guy"! Hope they don't kill the Sandman, or Venom in this one. Make them get sent to the Vault for crying out loud... Image this... Last shot of the movie, we see a cell with Venom freaking out while being sedated, pan out, we go backwards thru the steel door, we see other cells, we see something that resembles a lighting bolt hitting the side of a 6inch sealed window the walls are darken by bolts being shot at them, in front of this cell we see the Sandman crouched down leaning fowards on the window, paning out still, and they could show a couple of other villains (except Doc Oc since, yes, they killed him too!)... This could be great and even if didn't see them be created, at least we would know that they're alive and ready to be leached out for one of the next movie, all this without the need to show how all of them were created all the time, a simple "dream sequence" could do this and save up 25 minutes of film. I just hope they stop killing all of them..
ajtk210... by Freefinger	Nov 12th, 2006 11:42:58 PM
If you think these are such retard talkbacks, how 'bout you stop coming to these and shit on everyone 'cause you think you know it all and go tape "The View" and wack off to them talking 'bout your kind of topic. People will miss things in a clip, if you feel the need to point out anything, keep your anger down and point it out, dont need to tell them to go Fuck themselves, hell at least they have a fuck, and no you can't count the hamster stuck up your ass a fuck for you.
Better look at Venom... by Nigel7	Nov 12th, 2006 11:53:55 PM
Made this eariler this afternoon. Enjoy. http://tinyurl.com/yljt9y
The Knights Who Say, "Nigel!" by Zeke25:17	Nov 13th, 2006 12:09:16 AM
...are applauding you for your fine work on the Venom clip! I keep wanting to say, "Nice doggy...NIIICE doggy..."
I'm guessing English isn't Freefinger's first language by kintar0	Nov 13th, 2006 12:20:00 AM
And he's a little sensitive. JDanielP, is that you? Is this me?
Venom Images by LittleDudes	Nov 13th, 2006 12:36:36 AM
http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ XXXXX http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ images/misc/101.jpg XXXXX http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ images/misc/102.jpg XXXXX REMOVE THE SPACES
waa waa wi waa by miyokoboom	Nov 13th, 2006 12:38:33 AM
Venom crouchin like a friggen tiger....awesome!!! its still on youtube if you're lookin!
Jimmy Godspeed by Kai_Mah'gra	Nov 13th, 2006 12:59:42 AM
....it's remotely possible that the film or short has some merit or even laudable quality to it, worth seeing. It's just toobad that the moron shilling it, is too much of a.....um...what's the word here......MORON, to take a hint much less get a clue, that ultimately the film never stands a chance. Seriously dude, get a freaking life. Now counting, seconds until Brandon is re-banned..........for the umpteenth time........
Youtube is the hip place to be, kids. by TallBoy66	Nov 13th, 2006 01:04:26 AM
Such as this little thing I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0hnNQ2YsHr4 If Harry leaked this on his own, seriously, that's the coolest thing this site has done in years.
nice by slkboxrman	Nov 13th, 2006 01:56:52 AM
i personally believe that either ....a)venom appears for a split second as a lead in to spider man 4 or b)venom appears, starts wreaking havoc and killing people and the movie will end on a huge cliffhanger and will make us all scream at the screen ..nooooooo as for dead villains , who said harry and sandman get killed ?? who even said that doc ock is dead, i bet there are some of u out there that believe as me and some of my friends that he is not dead...any thoughts ?
It's still up at CINEMATICAL.COM! I just saw it! by Bob Cryptonight	Nov 13th, 2006 01:57:13 AM
Check it out! I'm serious!
slkboxrman (SPOILERS) by Ribbons	Nov 13th, 2006 02:25:22 AM
Well, I already put down my thoughts on the whole Venom thing. I think I know what happens at the end but I won't spoil it, except to say that I suspect Venom's reign of terror will be limited to this film. * Sandman... mmmmmight get killed. I'm basing this on nothing but the trailer, but the way it looked like the water was washing him away and he was reaching out for help... maybe Peter accidentally gets him killed due to his symbiote-induced rage, which is what finally motivates him to get rid of the thing. Maybe not though. It looks like he gets pushy with MJ and puts Harry in the hospital, which are both equally good reasons for wanting to shed the symbiote. * As for Doc Ock, I'd say he's as dead as they come. What would the point of him being alive be anyway? It's not like he's "evil;" he's not gonna be joining the Sinister Six anytime soon. Otherwise you'd have to do some seeerious retconning.
Flaming Organic Webspooging Nipples on Optimus by MaulRat	Nov 13th, 2006 02:31:35 AM
= The word "fucktard"..... what the hell does that word MEAN anyway?. I..... dont get it... I get what its supposed to mean, from what I can gather its supposedly a "clever" melding of FUCK (or fucking) and reTARD.. but what does it actually mean? Are we going to look it up in a Merriam Webster one day and see "Fucktard" (say Fuh-k-tah-rd) function: Verb .. Etymology:circa 2004 cracker slang.... Meaning: damn you Michael Bay.... Brother. Oh yeah and Venom looks cool... umm.... can't wait for the real relase of the 3rd trailer.
That Rocked by Phategod1	Nov 13th, 2006 04:29:39 AM
that was probably the post release trailer you wont see that till May.
oh really? by tibbar	Nov 13th, 2006 04:41:32 AM
no shit he fights venom
(High-Quality) Venom Footage at YouTube by Ribbons	Nov 13th, 2006 05:19:02 AM
Here's the link (make sure to eliminate gaps in the URL if there are any): *** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =v-RDIhq5_t0 ***
Could someone torrent the spidermanfreak20 mov file?:) by michaelberliner	Nov 13th, 2006 05:26:54 AM

Ribbons by CatVutt	Nov 13th, 2006 05:39:12 AM
It's entirely possible it's mainly because of how ridiculously little sleep I've had, but I found that to be fucking hilarious. Thanks.
You're welcome! by Ribbons	Nov 13th, 2006 05:47:00 AM
Glad to see I'm not the only Spidr-Mna fan...
i heard a rumor... by tibbar	Nov 13th, 2006 05:59:19 AM
that spider-man is gonna be in this movie, can anyone confirm that shit?
That shot of Venom... by knightrider	Nov 13th, 2006 06:17:42 AM
...is blatantly the final shot of the movie -- the Money Shot that Venom will be back for the next installment. And I don't have a problem with that, it looks fucking brilliant!
Fucktard FAO Maulrat by EWS	Nov 13th, 2006 06:46:05 AM
"Your a fucking retard" = "Fucktard"
smackfu and other retards by the_shogun_gunslinger	Nov 13th, 2006 06:55:34 AM
dude, you know nothing of the conception of peter's web shooters...he didnt SUDDENLY come up with a web like substance AFTER he was bitten. Peter had been working on an industrial adhesive for a science fair project. he managed to make a super-strong, yet light and flexible glue but he could never get it to last longer than an hour before it disintigtated. he later adapted it for web-shooters. now as for this being the last shot...ur all retarded...is it a fear? maybe but i watched it again and i think the flash that comes up after he lunges at the camera a cover for whats a disolve or transition, much like in SM1 and 2 where the camera sooms into peters chest emblem and the scene changes...garantee you all...venom lunges into camera and it cuts to a night shot.
Venom sells more tickets than Sandman? by ByTor	Nov 13th, 2006 07:12:37 AM
One of the problems with spending too much time on a geek site like this is that geeks get an inflated sense of their own importance. Look, take the circulation of Amazing Spider-Man. Triple it to cover the occasional in-and-out fans. Now drop all of them into an incinerator. If you do this...the opening box office for Spider-Man 3 won't be affected in any material way. The general public neither knows nor cares what Venom is. Get over yourselves.
Dunst by NachoNegro	Nov 13th, 2006 07:30:36 AM
Without Dunst this franchise is nothing. Hence there will be no Spiderman 4. Her Wet T Shirt scene in the first film brought in 70% of the DVD sales on it's own.
I agree by arghhhhhhhh	Nov 13th, 2006 07:31:15 AM
I agree with this guy above me. Now A night in the museum, there's one thats pregnant with potensial
potential by arghhhhhhhh	Nov 13th, 2006 07:32:11 AM
potential
The real trailer was good... by abominate	Nov 13th, 2006 07:33:42 AM
...this one is way better, even with the FX not done. Hey, has anyone else noticed in the real trailer at the end when they show the "3" there's a face in the lower right hand corner of the number. I swear I'm NOT kidding. Go look.
Stop this "Venom cliffhanger" nonsense by friedgold	Nov 13th, 2006 07:59:40 AM
As much as I hate to side with the repeatedly offensive poster, Venom will not appear solely as a final shot tease for Spider-Man 4. Deal. He'll only be in it for a final showdown, but he, or 'they', are not a cliffhanger. You do not make an official villain announcement, talk about him at Comic-Con, talk about the costume and make-up, all for a 10 second appearance at the end of the film. It would be like Warners announcing the inclusion of The Joker in Batman Begins. So please, please stop all this "set-up for Spider-man 4" rubbish. And yes, the fan-boys are now happy, but I would have prefered the drip-feed of coolness that Sony were obviously planning, rather than get all this stuff in one go 6 MONTHS BEFORE THE RELEASE. But I have no will-power, so 'Hi Venom, nice to meet you. You look great'
This is the real link by BizarroJerry	Nov 13th, 2006 08:03:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =A5l9fEBs4m8 The last youtube link was actually some other variation that maybe faked Venom at the end?
I dunno, friedgold by BizarroJerry	Nov 13th, 2006 08:08:11 AM
Maybe you're right, but I would think if Venom played a significant role in the movie, they would not leave him out of the trailer. Even if his appearance is intended as a surprise in the film, the folks marketing movies and making trailers are perfectly willing to allow a plot surprise to appear in the trailer. Keeping Venom out of it would be a bad idea if his inclusion in the film was something fans would be jazzed about. I guess we'll find out in six months. Dammit! Six months? Damn early trailers.
Venom is Garbage--where's MODOK? by Ricky Henderson	Nov 13th, 2006 08:09:08 AM
He would be a better villan. Or maybe Fing Fang Foom.
I've had an overnight change-of-heart by leavittj1982	Nov 13th, 2006 08:11:26 AM
I would rather have Venom be the villain in the hypoethical fourth movie than be the fifteen-minute dead-man-walking villian in this one. He doesn't deserve to be killed-off in a single fight. An observation: Peter Parker has super powers without violent intentions; Eddie Brock is a weak man with violent intentions. And the Venom reacts differently to both. Another observation: It seems that -- in the movie, anyway -- the Venom not only acts as a costume covering and concealing Brock, but the two actually blend into a single creature, as seen by Venom's now having not only a mouth, but a throat where Brock's head used to be. I'm not very familiar with the way that that works in the comics. Can he still transform back into Brock?
Cock-tease Last Shot/Open Endings by knightrider	Nov 13th, 2006 08:18:23 AM
I don't care if Venom is involved in the climactic show-down, which has apparently already been established... I just think that shot of Venom has "The End" written all over it. And you know what? That's fine. It doesn't make me or the other talkbackers here "retards" or "fucktards" -- It'd be a great way to end the movie, leaving everyone with two-to-three years to speculate about the next part. It kinda makes me think of the ending to Batman Returns, where the supposedly dead Catwoman reared her lovely head... a cool, upbeat, open ending.
GLORIOUS SIMPLY GLORIOUS by BilboRing	Nov 13th, 2006 08:52:07 AM
I pray that we see this scene at the very end of the movie. Sandman and GG2 are more than enough for Spidey 3. Sandman looks so fricking amazing. GG2....not so much. But I have complete faith in Raimi to make another stellar movie. GG1 costume was not that great but the overall movie just rocked the world. Have faith people. I love the old villains too but Pre-Larson Venom was one of the best ever. Anyone have a time machine? I want to see this movie tonight. Spidey 4 with all focus on Venom and his torturing ways would be orgasmic. What a great ending to Spidey 3. Parker rips off the symbiote with the help of church bells and the costume finds praying Brock. Just like the comic. ORGASMIC!!!!!!!!!
knightrider by Ribbons	Nov 13th, 2006 08:52:14 AM
Done right, it would be a great way to end the movie. I hope you don't think I'm trying to insult you, I'm just saying that, in this case, though it may have "The End" written all over it, it's not at the end.
Ribbons by knightrider	Nov 13th, 2006 09:00:19 AM
No problems :)
Looks by godzillasushi	Nov 13th, 2006 09:03:12 AM
fantastic.
I would love to have seen the Lizard by SithMenace	Nov 13th, 2006 09:18:14 AM
Venom will be a ferocious villain for sure, but I would love to see the Lizard onscreen. I thought after the setup in Spidey 2 that's where this one was going, but it's not. I would like to see Rhino as well, and Raimi's version of Kraven, who I always thought was an underrated character. The Rhino in particular has great onscreen potential, and it would showcase Spidey's talent for outsmarting villains that are stronger than him.
Venom raped my grandmother by zacdilone	Nov 13th, 2006 09:57:30 AM
So I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't mention him again.
I hope Venom is featured in this one... by ZeroCorpse	Nov 13th, 2006 10:01:51 AM
Because I want to get the damn stupid "evil Spider-Man" plot over with so the younger fans will finally shut the fuck up and let us older fans who have been reading Spider-Man since the 70s (or even 60s) can have the REAL villains, instead of this lame-ass ALIENS clone. EVERYTHING having to do with that symbiote, from the end of the Secret Wars to all the Venom-kin, is poor writing that caters to the lowest common denominator. Evil Twin Villain formula: Change the good guy's look to black, give the guy freakish features, and make him have some mental problem (multiple personalities is usually the case) and then make him an exact match for the hero, right down to individual powers. Add in some murder and mayhem, and fanboys suck it up. If you like this, you must love the "evil" Superman in Superman III. [p] Venom is lame. He's always been lame. I can't wait for Raimi to get this abortion of a character out of Sony's system, so he can concentrate on villains that don't suck.
ajtk = kintar0 ? by Freefinger	Nov 13th, 2006 10:05:21 AM
YEah that's it, I guess I am sensitive... To the fact that you can't even come back on the site with your previous name... Mouahahahahahaha!! Check out everyone who replied to fuckface ajtk, we all think you're a fucktard, and then suddenly kintar0 opens up to him, mouahahahahaahahahahah guess you'll be alone playing with your imaginary friends again, or Hamsters if you prefer! mouahahahahahaah!!
If this series continued long enough by BizarroJerry	Nov 13th, 2006 10:05:32 AM
having the Lizard/Connors appear all ready as Peter's professor would be a nice way to actually establish he knows Pete beforehand, instead of dropping in a "mentor" character we hadn't seen until then. Of course, it was most likely just a nod to the fans.
Ribbons... by Freefinger	Nov 13th, 2006 10:16:40 AM
... Great video.. I love the Sandman sequence! Simply amazing, I truly believe that it was him in actual disguise, the cg effect are getting better by the day! Great work! Hell you should do the next Superman movie!
Im a fucktard? by ajtk210	Nov 13th, 2006 10:22:26 AM
Im more then aware that people will miss things in the trailer. But ALOT of people have pointed these things out. Yet people are still at this moment posting the same dumb shit and ignoring these things people like me and half of the talkbackers are posting as proof.
Im a fucktard? by ajtk210	Nov 13th, 2006 10:22:29 AM
Im more then aware that people will miss things in the trailer. But ALOT of people have pointed these things out. Yet people are still at this moment posting the same dumb shit and ignoring these things people like me and half of the talkbackers are posting as proof.
And No Im not kintar0 by ajtk210	Nov 13th, 2006 10:24:12 AM
Im not. Im 19 years old. Im not a fat nerdy fuck. I have a girlfriend. I'm just not a dumbass, I can pay attention to things and not make dumbass half-assed theories.
And No Im not kintar0 by ajtk210	Nov 13th, 2006 10:24:14 AM
Im not. Im 19 years old. Im not a fat nerdy fuck. I have a girlfriend. I'm just not a dumbass, I can pay attention to things and not make dumbass half-assed theories.
We all know the plot, so who cares? by Ricky Henderson	Nov 13th, 2006 10:24:56 AM
Stop your whining. I really don't care about this movie much anymore since I know now the entire storyline for this flick.
Nice back to back double posts by Ricky Henderson	Nov 13th, 2006 10:27:20 AM
Thats a new trick ajtk. Strong work.
ZeroCorpse by BilboRing	Nov 13th, 2006 10:29:12 AM
I am not a younger reader (32) and I loved the original Venom before he became all retarded looking and "Eat your brains" stupid. He's not Spider-Man's evil twin. I guess you never read the comics since the 60s and 70s? I loved Kraven but on screen he would be a bore. Get with the times, loser. Some new things are actually good. I even preferred Hobgoblin over Green Goblin. And I loved Jack O' Lantern too.
BilboRing by ZeroCorpse	Nov 13th, 2006 10:44:39 AM
I'm in my late 30s. I do believe I've read nearly every Spider-Man comic, save for a huge chunk of the clone saga (SUCKED) and several stops in the McFarlane era and the Venom storylines. The original Venom was still "eat your brains" stupid, but back then they focused more (and constantly) on the "He's got all my powers, but he's more powerful than me, and he knows who I am. Oh WOE IS ME." angle. He is SO VERY MUCH the "dark Spider-Man" evil twin, and I don't know how most people can't see how lazy the writing for Venom really is. [p] Hobgoblin was OK. Not as interesting as Norman by any means. Jack O'Lantern was always a joke, even when he kept switching identities. [p] And if you think Kraven would be boring on screen, I don't know how you think a cheap rip-off of an ALIENS xenomorph is going to be interesting. Kraven has a personality. All Venom has is that "WE HATE SPIDER MAN!" thing. He hasn't even got a decent motivation for his hatred- Just rejection and being a general loser. At least Kraven had a point to his hunting Spider-Man. Venom's more like a scorned lover than a major villain, the way he behaves. [p] Jeez. The recent "Feral" storyline would be better than anything with Venom in it. They finally realized Venom was a one-trick pony in the comics, and pretty much axed him (unless you count the Scorpion/Gargan version as being anything significant). [p] Ha! They could use the Fabulous Frog-Boy, Ringer, Spot, or Kangaroo and STILL turn out a more interesting story than anything featuring slobber-puss.
Connors was in the first one, too by leavittj1982	Nov 13th, 2006 10:59:50 AM
Connors has been in both SM movies, but had a larger role in the second. So his appearance in it wasn't a teaser for a forthcoming villain; he's always been one of the characters, and perhaps always will be. Personally, I never found the Lizard to be an interesting or even realistic character. Conners is best suited to remain Parker's chemistry professor, in my opinion.
That's the best set-up for a villain by SithMenace	Nov 13th, 2006 11:38:59 AM
Have him in two or three movies, then when he does turn it brings alot more emotional depth. The Lizard is a very tragic character, he would be a great addition to these movies.
I liked it. Although... by porterdsgn	Nov 13th, 2006 11:51:52 AM
I still think it's a setup. I liked this trailer better than the last one. thumbs up
great googly moogly! by quadrupletree	Nov 13th, 2006 12:12:31 PM
NOW I'm excited to see this movie. Sony's over reacting here, that "official" trailer did nothing for me. That split second view of Venom is all you need.
Spider-Man 2099 by HeWhoCannotBeNamed	Nov 13th, 2006 12:14:05 PM
Before I start, please don't attack; I am attempting to ask a poorly structured yet serious question. Let it be known that I really enjoyed Spider-Man 2099. Clearly I was part of a very small minority. Regardless, when I saw the first Spider-Man film, I was under the belief that the "organic web shooters" and "finger claws" were ripped off and/or inspired by Spider-Man 2099. I know these two characteristics exist in said comic. Miguel's got 'em. I personally thought it was brilliant and never really liked the webshooters with cartridges. Whatever. Everyone has an opinion. Did anyone else draw this Spider-Man 2099 conclusion or am I the new word of the day - a fucktard? Thanks to all who reply to my query. For the record, I liked the first two films and I would be very surprised if they botched the third one. I'll be there at midnight with the wife with mildly high hopes. Let's see is this cacophony of storylines SFX riddled action fest works.
I just saw it on YouTube... by beastie	Nov 13th, 2006 12:14:35 PM
..just thought someone might like to know.
On Marko killing Uncle Ben by ShallowGrave	Nov 13th, 2006 12:18:54 PM
It would be a nice little twist if this is how they set up the Eddie Brock storyline. Because Spider-Man was at the window where the thief fell from in the first movie, what if Brock writes the story “Spidey ‘kills’ the wrong guy,” alleging falsely that Marko was actually the culprit. Peter finds out through Spidey’s fights with Sandman that, although Sandman had something to do with the murder, Brock is wrong. Parker exposes Brock as a fraud, and that’s what leads Brock to the desperate man seen in the church. Just a thought.
HOLY CRAP! by ninjatracksuit	Nov 13th, 2006 12:38:11 PM
Yep, they should have finished this one and made it the trailer, as it captures the spirit of bad Spidey/Venom that everyone has been chewing their nails about - but I have a feeling we will be seeing it as such when the movie is closer to launch. Really, though, for you kids that didn't see it - it is excellent. They broach the idea of Marko as Ben's killer a little more smoothly, Parker's psychological change is hinted at more strongly, and yeah - Venom is saved for the tail end of the trailer, but it's just right (enough, but not too much). We'll be seeing more of him, though, when the toys hit the shelves about 2-3 weeks before the movie releases...
NEED ANOTHER WORKING LINK by skynetbauxi	Nov 13th, 2006 12:58:32 PM
can someone please repost it on youtube?
This link still works... by alfiemoon	Nov 13th, 2006 01:00:16 PM
http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=5866757396576992173& q=spiderman+3+trailer&hl=en
WOLVERINE!!! by Darwyn	Nov 13th, 2006 01:11:35 PM
Why is no one commenting on the shot a second and a half before the Black Spider-Man 3 Logo comes up? Thats' Mother Fuckin' Wolverine's Mother Fuckin' claws, mutha fucka! Biggest secret ever? Or silly gag they play in the movie? Or did I see completely wrong??? Cuz I'll tell you what, you guys go look two seconds before the logo with the crazy staccato orchestra pounding in your head and you'll see Peter looking scared at three razor sharp, awfully familiar blades. Someone look into this!!! I saw fucking Big-Foot!!
alfiemoon by skynetbauxi	Nov 13th, 2006 01:36:40 PM
THANK YOU
BSB by godzillasushi	Nov 13th, 2006 01:37:34 PM
Dont you think its kinda cool? I mean this thing will look pretty awesome....
where is the BORAT talkback??? by samsquanch	Nov 13th, 2006 01:38:51 PM
anyone think it's kind of weird that there isn't one?
Mini-Wolverine?? by skynetbauxi	Nov 13th, 2006 01:45:08 PM
Darwyn... take another look at that shot and you'll notice it's an extreme CLOSE-UP of Peter's eye looking at those claws... and with the claws being even closer to the camera than Peter's face, that would mean that those are some pretty TINY claws... even if they were just the TIPS of Wolverine's claws, we can clearly see that the claws are only about a half inch apart from each other, and I don't think Wolverine could pull that off... unless... maybe the 4TH VILLAIN in SPIDER-MAN 3 is Rick Moranis from HONEY I SHRUNK THE KIDS!
Those aren't Wolvies claws... by abominate	Nov 13th, 2006 01:51:25 PM
...in the trailer. They're claws on a gauntlet worn by Harry when he's on the goblin glider. Go back and watch the official trailer again. And again. Do some homework. It's when he says "You knew this day was coming, Pete." And hey, how does Spidey get into a moving bank truck without Sandy noticing, when the back door is still closed and sealed? The only explanation can be that Spidey tears his way through the roof while Sandman is distracted with taking out the truck driver / guards in "sand" form. This movie will rock my balls in so many ways. Must we bother with winter at all?
And I wasn't kidding... by abominate	Nov 13th, 2006 01:52:30 PM
...about the face in the lower right corner of the number "3" at the end of the trailer. Go watch!
Not Wolverine by Dominic	Nov 13th, 2006 02:16:55 PM
Yea, that def wasn't Wolverine, it was Harry. Logan's presence in the movie would just complicate an already packed storyline. Besides, there is no way Fox would let Colombia use Wolverines unless they got some of the action ($$$). There will be a fight at the end of 3 involving SM, V, and Harry. Sandman is long gone, beaten by water (thanks to the spoiler in the trailer). Since it has already been said that Gwen doesn't die in this one, 3 will end in a cliffhanger either during or after the fight. If Gwen does die, I hope it's Harry who does it and not Venom. That would be too similar to the Ultimate Spiderman storyline where Carnage kills Gwen (which I thought was pretty lame). Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that Brock will be tied into the Gwen storyline. He’s either in love with her or MJ. Brock has always been jealous of Peter, that’s why Venom hates him so much.
On a side note by Dominic	Nov 13th, 2006 02:24:32 PM
I always thought it would be really cool if they started the movie with Spiderman preventing a lesser known super-villain from committing a crime, like stopping Shocker or Rhino from robbing a bank. I’m pretty sure these characters will never be a main villain, but it would be cool to see them nonetheless.
Fools! by seanny_d	Nov 13th, 2006 02:30:04 PM
That is NOT how Sandman is going to die. It's obvious that's happening during the subway fight in which Spider-Man is in his black costume. I would be willing to bet lots and lots of money that Sandman gets taken out by a blue and red Spidey.
Erm...does anyone else think by Cat_Corporation	Nov 13th, 2006 02:52:26 PM
Sandman looks a bit like Biff from Back to the Future...? (PS. Link still working from the Empire Magazine website, if nobody's mentioned it)
spidey 2099 by GiLL	Nov 13th, 2006 02:53:19 PM
was better than the original.
You Tube Link for Banned Trailer - Works For Now by PlasmaOrb	Nov 13th, 2006 03:30:52 PM
Here is a link i found on You Tube that has the trailer thats been taken off quite a few times by Sony... pretty nice, too bad they didnt make that trailer instead of the one they released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =twdYMZufYp0
great trailer! by reckni	Nov 13th, 2006 03:35:22 PM
much, much better than the official one.
ok wow by deadpool51	Nov 13th, 2006 03:44:40 PM
that was totally more inspiring then the thursday trailer, i have a feelign though this is gonna be the last trailer, cause its basically the same as thursday's one but with added scenes. So we will be seeing this in the theater in the near future. plus that shot of Venom at the end was just made for this trailer its not gonna be in the movie.
oh and one more thing by deadpool51	Nov 13th, 2006 03:49:19 PM
If you read the4 newspapers in teh trailer everyone is in love with spiderman now cause he saved a baby that feel from a burning building, not cause he saved people from john Jamesons crashign space craft, so how did the symbiot get there?
NEW LINK!!! by goonie	Nov 13th, 2006 03:51:27 PM
http://gorillamask.net/spiderm an3venom.shtml
OK, Not Wolverine by Darwyn	Nov 13th, 2006 04:20:44 PM
Your probably right - it wasn't Wolverine. I couldn't imagine how they would have gotten around all the red tape without a leak, but ulitmately it looked so much like Wolvie's claws I needed someone to tell me what the hell it actually was so I could stop my imagination from running wild. So it's the new Green Goblin, we think, eh? Still, imagine how cool to have a Marvel cross-over, just for a cameo with Hugh Jackman. I'd have one of Harry's overly graphic orgasm moments. Thanks for the feedback, all.
sweet by Lil LoLo	Nov 13th, 2006 04:21:00 PM
seriously. wtf sony, this is so much better.
I'm offically psyched for this movie by misnomer	Nov 13th, 2006 04:28:21 PM
why didnt they release this first?
Don't Keep It Secret, Don't Keep It Safe by DarthDooku	Nov 13th, 2006 04:31:58 PM
i think it's our duty, as the fans, to do what Harry suggested. Get the trailer out there. It's been off of YouTube, so download it from the gorillamask site above, send it to whoever you can, and let us show Sony the power of the internet!
Ramie is an old school spidey fan....? by deadpool51	Nov 13th, 2006 04:32:05 PM
How can you say that and explain What he did to the goblin costume. Ye si knwo some thign sdotn transfer well from comics to movie but he coudl have tried alittel harder to make the original comic costume work in aan evil sadistic way. I mean who woudl think that the joker woudltn just look like a stupd guy in clown make up for the new batman movie, bu ti bet they make him look evil as hell and make it work.
Click Here for the WMV Version of the Venom-izedTrailer by DarthDooku	Nov 13th, 2006 04:44:27 PM
http://www.yousendit.com/downl oad/Jjv%2BGuw8bWw%3D
Damn, nobody else preferred the official trailer? by Ribbons	Nov 13th, 2006 04:59:33 PM
Apparently not. But I thought the iFilm trailer that debuted on Thursday was pretty great, if a tad spoiler-y. A couple of people have said it was "edited really badly," so apparently I know even less about film than I thought I did, because I didn't notice any glaring problems with the way it was cut.
To Harry by leavittj1982	Nov 13th, 2006 07:04:10 PM
Hey Harry, what is your opinion regarding Venom's presence in Spider-Man 3?
I think 3 baddies will work out fine... by spectrebeeyatch	Nov 13th, 2006 07:16:30 PM
I think Harry sets up Sandman at the beginning and for the first half spidey fights Sandman and Harry. He gains the black suit and almost kills both of them while at the same time pissing off Brock. Then half way through he looses the suit creating Venom and making a huge ending battle scene. If you think about it they are setting things up pretty well and Sandman is a good choice in the role. He's a perfect half way bad guy he's not a main villian like Venom or Doc Ock or a goblin. He's not a low grade bad guy like Rhino or Shocker so he's perfect as the element he is in the movie.
TMZ is on it by bubbha	Nov 13th, 2006 07:16:37 PM
http://tinyurl.com/y9x9ja
If you missed it... by jacked_up	Nov 13th, 2006 07:32:17 PM
Or want to watch it again over and over and over go to this link for the full trailer decent quality. http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=5866757396576992173 who knows how much longer it will be up. Rock on!
detail in spidey being choked w/black webbing shot by y2ames	Nov 13th, 2006 08:26:16 PM
um..freeze frame the gorillamask.net video (http://gorillamask.net/spider man3venom.shtml) and you will clearly see battle-damage spidey reaching for help or whatever while a) being choked by black webbing while b) covered with sand. i guess he DOES fight both at the same time.
Time for me to show some love and have fun by Phategod2	Nov 13th, 2006 08:34:51 PM
It feels good not to bash a movie or have to. With that said this what I believe will happend. someone thinks that spidey will take out Harry and have to fight SM and Venom at the same time. I think spidey will fight the sandman first in the old Red and Blue First get his ass handed to him and then get the Symbiote suit, where he will proceed to hallucinate that SM killed dear old uncle ben and proceed to layeth the Smacketh Down and make the Sandman Take a Dirt nap. Now there seems to be this overlying theme of "asking for help" so at some point I think harry and spidey are going to team up on venom or maybe Spidey will some surprise help against the Two of them; say from Fox studios, anything can happen. I love having fun specualting about the wonderful possibilties of a actualy good movie. Now back to the hating. Get me some fresh Transformer news ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!
The Studios make ZERO sense these days by Gorrister	Nov 13th, 2006 09:15:18 PM
Could somebody please explain this to me? Especially someone who understands "The Biz", such as Harry,

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