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Bad News. HALO a No-Go... aka Why are the studios retarded?

First by Hyperimaginative	Oct 30th, 2006 11:27:27 PM
Morons. Why can't Hollywood get their heads out of their asses?
FUCK by Trancer	Oct 30th, 2006 11:27:56 PM
That sucks. 3rd?
that's sad.. by filmicdrummer17	Oct 30th, 2006 11:28:19 PM
but you've got to give Jackson and co. credit for actually trying to keep their promise to the fans. I'd rather wait for it then have to see a rushed piece of vomit.
Ooh, second, even by Trancer	Oct 30th, 2006 11:29:19 PM
How'd that happen?
This could have been bigger than ... by darthuser	Oct 30th, 2006 11:30:53 PM
... the FINAL FANTASY and SUPER MARIO BROS. movies combined!!
SUCKS! by jackinitraw	Oct 30th, 2006 11:31:22 PM
Now we'll instead get 50 more bags of shit starring Reese Witherspoon, Lindsay Lohan, and written by Paul Haggis. I think it's time that people with brains seceded from the normals and started a new planet.
Say wha...? by Ribbons	Oct 30th, 2006 11:38:15 PM
Wow. I can honestly say that I did not see this coming. Well, good luck to WETA and Blomkamp on finding a backer sometime soon.
thank gawd by Reilly	Oct 30th, 2006 11:38:57 PM
Actually, the story isnt that bad, i just hate how overhype that game has become
i'd rather see a zelda movie than HALO by slder78	Oct 30th, 2006 11:39:16 PM
HALO is cool and all, but I just don't know how or if you can get a compelling narrative out of the game.
Happy Birthday, PJ by The Pusher	Oct 30th, 2006 11:39:47 PM
All your producing work just went down the drain.
something i don't understand... by KyleKrane	Oct 30th, 2006 11:43:48 PM
... why is financing a problem? why can't microsoft independently produce this themselves? and note to fox and universal... are you guys scared of making money or something?
Bad News? by Bungion Boy	Oct 30th, 2006 11:45:31 PM
Forgive me but does anyone remember DOOM from last year? I'm not sure if first person shooters can make good movies. The Peter Jackson involvement was an interesting touch, but I couldn't get excited until I heard a premise.
it's been coming for a few weeks now... by mattyholmes	Oct 30th, 2006 11:48:05 PM
RIP Halo the Movie www.obsessedwithfilm.com
I'd be completely on board... by filmicdrummer17	Oct 30th, 2006 11:48:28 PM
with whoever suggested a Zelda movie, if it weren't that so many things have cribbed from it in the last several years, and it itself cribbed from so many classic stories (Lord of the Rings, anyone?) that it would be met with a chorus of "so what?"s.
Fucking Film Companies . . . by PMonkeyReclaimed	Oct 30th, 2006 11:50:40 PM
I absolutely HATE what Hollywood has become. I mean, it's always been about money to film execs and the companies, but to shut down or drop people as talented as Peter Jackson and Co. just because they won't compromise and make a shitty movie is just plain retarded. A big FUCK YOU to Fox, you're shit anyway. I know you guys only think in $ symbols, so I'll try to make this simple. This was the greatest investment you could have possibly made. I'll show you: Best selling game + unbelievably large fan base x Peter Jackson ^(Weta power) = You're a bunch of souless money grubbing bitchfists!
the real reason HALO is postponed by dragon-lord	Oct 30th, 2006 11:50:42 PM
I'm sure the director will move on to something smaller, get his feet wet a little and get some experience under his belt. Once he proves himself there, they'll come back to the table for Halo. He's just way too inexperienced to be handed a project of this scale and everyone knows it.
Ashoko said it best by Jor-El23	Oct 30th, 2006 11:51:23 PM
video games don't make good movies. the list of video games that were movies reads like a Razzies lifetime achievement ballot.
I hate to say it but: Too soon. by Doc_Strange	Oct 30th, 2006 11:59:50 PM
Seriously, the way they're trying to get this out as quickly as possible smells like they are just trying to cash in on the Halo name and not so much the story aspect of it. Also, the fact that a movie like this would cost hundreds of millions to make, would it be in their best interests to release this film this quickly? The bigger question is, would the movie make its budget back and then some? I liked Halo, I thought Halo 2 sucked. Whether I would see this or not lies within the movie's direction and script. From what I've read, the script ain't that great and having a first time director can go either way. In otherwords, this movie is a crapshoot.
Give me a Break by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 12:05:07 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Halo's story completely sucks for over a hour and a half you gonna watch a Guy run around looking like a Biker with a female computer in his head with a bunch of retarded aliens that have mastered Intersteller space travel but have no Idea that there praying to Genocidal super death ray, and AI talking ball, yeah theres a recipe for a classic movie. Halo had one of the worst "Campain" modes of any game and the story was completely asinine Feel Free to flame away.
Don't care! by Power_Girl	Oct 31st, 2006 12:10:06 AM
I've seen this film already no need for this remake/ripoff of Aliens and Starship Troopers. Anyway the main character has a laim costume and a jeneric video game voice. The aliens are the most retarded looking piles of shit I've ever seen.
It could be Fast-Tracked one of two ways. Or both. by DoodlyDingDongTickTock	Oct 31st, 2006 12:10:40 AM
1.Peter signs on as director But I would seriously rather see him do a two-part Hobbit, and get the entire crew back together for another trip through middle-earth. 2.Gates personally finances it I would like to see Gates do that. Just for kicks. He wouldn't even notice a 300 million dent in his wallet. It would be the biggest independent film of all time. If it was hyped just right, it could make such green.
Die a quiet death my ass! by S-Mart shopper	Oct 31st, 2006 12:11:31 AM
If anything some fucktards down the road will try to "re-imagine" it and it'll end up being another streetfighter or some other sugar covered turd. why doesn't Gates let his NUTS hang and pony up the dough, I'm sure he's got 200mill somewhere in a cookie jar. WTF are people thinking? I have an idea: let's get some talented folks together who are staying true to a story and daily are growing more passionate about a project then before finalizing details about said project we pull out their favorite little puppy dog and BLOW ITS FUCKING HEAD OFF! whatever, every day that passes I lose more and more faith in the movie industry, what makes today any different.
Too good to be true by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 12:11:42 AM
This could have been GOLD. It could have been a runaway hit in a genre full of failures. I panicked when I heard they were making a Halo movie b/c I thought the ONLY way it was going to work was if they pulled in some major talent...talking about Spielberg/Cameron talent. Then out of nowhere Jackson signed on and it was all too good to be true. Well, it was. Now, I'm hearing a lot of talk that sounds a lot like, "oh, you can't blame the studios! Video game movies don't deliver!" We all know video games do not = quality. Sure some adaptations have made a buck or two, but let's be honest--how many people here hold a video game movie as a favorite? Zero. But man, we're talking about Peter Jackson here, not Boll! This man and his creative team are pure gold--trialed and tested! They are the kings of the epic film. Shame on the studios for not being brave enough, brave like New Line was with LOTR.
King Kong did not quite perform as expected by zooch	Oct 31st, 2006 12:13:51 AM
and I loved King Kong and fully support Peter Jackson and co. but 200mill is ALOT of money. Even putting Peter Jackson behind a film does not guarentee it will be a Mega-Blockbuster. That is why they can't get the funds.
Why the hell by Trancer	Oct 31st, 2006 12:14:26 AM
doesn't Microsoft just pony up a measley $200 million to make this, and make another billion dollars after all the chips are counted? FUCK the movie studios.
This could be good news!! by EdwardApplebee	Oct 31st, 2006 12:18:22 AM
this could be the greatest news boys and girls and i'll tell you why. forget the halo world, sure we love it, we've all lost some sleep because of if it. we've also really pissed of our friends and screamed f bombs into the night because of it. it's alright though, something else is coming, something more important!!!! THE HOBBIT!!!!! yes my friends and foes, this means that peter and his team will have more time to work on the 2 hobbit flicks. Please Lord God, let peter fran and co. write, create and direct the Hobbit, if i hear they went w/ anyone else i just might have to be very sad.
The argument of Blomkamp by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 12:30:11 AM
Yes, he's never made a major motion picture, but anyone who has seriously hunted for Blomkamp material on the web knows the man is a complete master at what he does. Jesus, some of the stuff I've seen of his is just simply bad-ass. Notably, the short film about the 3rd world robocop was, in my opinion, jaw dropping. The man understands machines--the way they move, how they opperate, how they look and "feel". He's fit to direct the Chief any day of the week. Also, the man uses atmosphere and mood like I haven't seen in a real long time, which is a valuable component to the Halo games. You're lying to yourself if you didn't automatically get hard watching the opening minutes of "Alive in Joburg."
Microsoft: Finance it yourself! and fuck the Studios. by Rindain	Oct 31st, 2006 12:35:33 AM
The studios are fucking retarded. It seems like anything that will be awesome, is backed by great talent and is destined to make a kajillion bucks will be killed by these retarded studios.
M$ responsible? by REALmightymouse	Oct 31st, 2006 12:48:57 AM
I remember reading somewhere that the reason this bogged down was because MS wanted a good chunk of the profits instead of accepting the "normal" take. I think I remember the amount being somewhere around 20%, and the studios wanted the figure closer to 10%. 20% is a lot of dough, and would have cut directly into the studio's profit. I'm not sure I'd fault the studios for not doing it as I would MS for being too damn greedy. But, you know, it's not like that's never happened before.
Yahoooooooooooooo! by Nairb The Movie	Oct 31st, 2006 12:56:11 AM
Thank you lord! This is the best news I've heard in the realm of movies in god knows how long. HALO the movie would have opened to as huuuuuuuuuuuuuge sucess and opened up the flood gates for Zelda the Movie, Spyro the Dragon the Movie, Crash Bandicoot the movie, Super Mario Brothers Returns, Tetris the movie... ETC... This is great!
MS will finance this when my arse grows wings by NachoNegro	Oct 31st, 2006 01:21:33 AM
The reason Microsoft don't finance it themselves is that they don't want to take on all the risk. Video game adaptions don't have a good record of making money. If any up and coming sci-fi action pic is going to bust the box office it's going to be Halo (or perhaps Avatar), but still I wouldn't like to put $250m of my company's money into it, especially when my company knows jack about producing films.
It gives me hope. by Nodwick	Oct 31st, 2006 01:25:53 AM
Now that the Halo movie itself is dead, how about a two-hour movie of "Red vs. Blue?" Remember: "Red vs. Blue" episodes are like Voltron; the more you stick together, the better it is... or something.
EdwardApplebee - The HOBBIT movie by antonphd	Oct 31st, 2006 01:30:42 AM
Exactamundo!! My first thoughts were 'here comes the Hobbit movies, baby!'. Halo is missing a great window here, but I would rather wait on Halo and have The Hobbit. If you have seen the footage of Halo3 on the 360, you know that Halo is only going to be getting bigger and bigger and bigger. They can wait another year or two and it will be just fine.
Rather see Half Life by NachoNegro	Oct 31st, 2006 01:33:27 AM
Actually I'd far rather see a Half-Life movie. The difference is, Valve are actually TURNING PEOPLE DOWN. Why? Because they 'want to make the best movie possible'. Amazing isn't it? I tell you, done right, Half Life could own all of your asses utterly, like a 15 foot tall robotic George Takei.
AICN Vendetta by Alex Childress	Oct 31st, 2006 01:39:18 AM
Granted, Fox/Uni deciding not to trust Peter "LOTR - $1,032,282,337 est. U.S. theater gross" Jackson and Co. will probably wind up being one of the biggest fucking mistakes since passing on James Cameron's Titanic/Romeo and Juliet thing. My question is, AICN has long had it out for Fox and Tom Rothman specifically (at least since 2005). It's never been clear why, exactly. It makes me doubt the trustworthiness of the site, and no, I have never worked for Fox or any Fox subsidiary. I just want to know where AICN's principle's lie in going after this guy most available times.
MetalWater by NachoNegro	Oct 31st, 2006 01:39:19 AM
Do you really think there's the slightest chance of Microsoft committing half a billion dollars to a venture in a market space they have no history in, with an unproven director, with a film type (i.e. video game adaption) that historically does not perform well? It's a good thing for them you're not Bill Gates, because if you were the whole company would have been flushed down the toilet years ago.
You know what I'd like? No video game movies. by s00p3rm4n	Oct 31st, 2006 01:49:37 AM
Yeah that's right fucksquats (I don't even know what that word means, but it combines fucking and squatting which in some cases can be the same thing). You know what I want? NO MORE FUCKING VIDEO GAME MOVIES. Maybe come up with a fucking story on your own, about space rangers with big guns shooting alien things. Huh? Can't think of that? Well, then you shouldn't be trying to outdo Paul Verhoeven in the first place, should you? That's right. Go back to writing your shitty adaptation of that game where that girl with big tits tries to make it in Vegas. OOPS. My point in summary: Paul Verhoeven has out-shat every shitty movie you or anyone you think is cool in this town will ever come up with. So why not try to do something good instead of eating shit and then shitting it back out as even shittier shit?
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Oct 31st, 2006 01:51:26 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
NachoNegro and Phategod2 ARE RIGHT by ScienceMan	Oct 31st, 2006 01:58:39 AM
Can't believe there are only two other likeminded folks in this talkback. Halo, the game, is incredibly over-rated. Its very mediocrity is the reason for its phenomenal success. It's like the Pink Floyd of videogames - lots of young kids, ignorant of much better talent (or games, if you follow my metaphor) discover Pink Floyd and think "Hey, this band rocks and nobody knows about it but me" and then they tell their friends and discover that pretty much every meathead American highschool jock loves Pink Floyd because, well, they're a popular band that was never really all that cutting-edge to begin with but they get tons of airplay on classic rock stations. That analogy went poorly. Here's the deal. HALO is a console game (I know, it's ported to PC, but that's beside the point). As a first-person shooter on a console, it is going to suffer simply by design. First-person shooters are best played with a mouse and keyboard, not a console + sign control pad with xy ab buttons. FPS games are generally not the biggest sellers for either PCs or consoles - that honor is shared by sports, fantasy, and simulation titles. Core PC gamers, especially the FPS crowd, looks down their nose at HALO and the hoi polloi who think it's such a great game, in the same sneering fashion that the 2fast 2furious-type late night street racer types in my neighborhood look down on my beat-up piece of shit '94 Saab. I finally played HALO just last year in an attempt at slumming in the console world. I started to play with an open mind, telling myself that maybe millions of fans were right and I would happily be proven wrong and that HALO was infact a great game. Sadly, that was not the case. My worst suspicions were only confirmed. HALO broke no new ground when it was released. The Covenant are just silly. The "plot" was a silly patchwork strung together by a bunch of programmers who were far more concerned with nailing down trivial little things like actually coding the gameplay. Sure, they had some "creative" talent but the idea of treating any "plot" to HALO as some sacred cow for a screenplay is ridiculous. I just really can't fully express how mediocre HALO is. This is one of those cases where "elitism" is shown to not always be a bad thing. If you are a studio executive with a burlap sack filled with dollars and a burning desire to produce the best movie of a videogame ever, please, make HALFLIFE and leave HALO as an endless string of Zelda-esque titles for the kiddies to play before they graduate to real videogames.
s00p3rm4n you utter twat by NachoNegro	Oct 31st, 2006 01:59:37 AM
Maybe they ought to stop doing adaption of 'books' as well? You know, those things with lots of pieces of paper, with writing on them? Ever read one of those? Where do you think Starship Troopers came from? Or Total Recall? Ass clown.
Not too worried about it anyways... by JunoFallon	Oct 31st, 2006 02:00:24 AM
I'm not against video games movies or anything. I do however think that, a) There are more deserving game series to be made into a movie, and b) HALO doesn't have that good of a story anyways. It's fairly shallow.
why are people shocked? by lionbiu	Oct 31st, 2006 02:04:34 AM
I am not at all, thought this news was long overdue....the budget is to high, the director is totally inexperienced (it does not matter about short films, we are talking about feature length movies with big casts and huge SFX) and Microsoft wanted a bigger than usual cut of profits. It was always going to be turned down....the transfer from videogame to movie has never been good and Peter Jackson is not as talented as some geeks would have you think (KING KONG SUCKED FUCKING DONKEY BALLS). Halo is a good game, but the plot is just a tired rehash of other sci-fi movies......barely anything would have been different, the movie would have been rated PG-13 and probably made what Superman Returns earned.
remember King Kong by gobofraggleuk	Oct 31st, 2006 02:07:35 AM
It took years for KK to happen - the fact that PJ and Co. are waiting for better financing does not mean that this is going to 'die a quiet death'... seriously, imagine if they bring out a HALO sequel on XBOX360 and it's a big success...
Well if the movie cost as much as they said it would by Poacher	Oct 31st, 2006 02:08:31 AM
Can you blame them for backing out? I certainly can't. These studios are starting to realize how little money they are making off these ultra expensive movies. It would be a HUGE gamble for them -- the director is probably the least of their worries. Look at Superman...a property everyone knows, but it would've had to have Pirates numbers in order to have turned a good profit with the insane budget...and Superman doing Pirates or Spider-Man 2 numbers is a lot easier to buy than Halo doing those numbers. Jackson and Co. have to bring the budget down to something workable before they can move forward on this thing....wait for the sequel for the ridiculous budget.
On financing film... by Cold Winter Wind	Oct 31st, 2006 02:11:04 AM
I really don't recall what the budget for Halo:The Movie was supposed to be, but I'd be willing to betcha that Bill Gates could finance the damn thing out of his personal petty cash, ferChrist'Sake!
Microsoft is already pouring money into Halo 3. by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 02:12:16 AM
You think it's just Bungie coughing it all up? No my friends.
IESB is talking shit about AICN re: Halo movie... by Rindain	Oct 31st, 2006 02:22:35 AM
http://tinyurl.com/y29wu6
The only people that care... by NeoDevilbaneX	Oct 31st, 2006 02:23:13 AM
... are people that haven't played a real PC FPS. The rest couldn't care less. "Halo" is crap and doesn't even deserve the big budget treatment.
If PJ is soooo convinced by themanlikedave	Oct 31st, 2006 02:30:57 AM
by the 'awseome' work that's been done so far, why not put his money where his mouth is and use some of that big fat stack of Rings dollars to finance this fucker?.
NeoDevilbaneX has the crux of it by NachoNegro	Oct 31st, 2006 02:33:00 AM
There's nothing new in Halo. It's a reasonable amalgam of a number of sci-fi staples, but there's nothing there that hasn't been done before. I'd much rather see Half-Life - HL had a story that puts Halo to shame, and it wouldn't require anything like $200m to bring to the screen.
Half Life this, Hald Life that... by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 02:40:51 AM
I love Halo AND Half Life, but studios want a movie with a big name. Chances are more kids have heard of Halo more than Half Life. That's why they haven't made a HL movie. Case closed.
I really enjoy Halo... by seanny_d	Oct 31st, 2006 02:42:49 AM
That said, I think it's lame to dismiss the game because it cannot compete with any FPS on the PC. I won't argue there. An FPS is much better played with a mouse and keyboard. But I hate being hunched over in my computer chair playing a game for hours on end on a 17" screen that can't even run the game to full capacity because I am constantly needing to upgrade my system. Personally, I'd rather be sitting on my couch with a controller enjoying myself. It may not have the accuracy, but I still find it fun. And while Halo 1 was essentially a "reimagining" of Aliens, I think the story as a whole could take some interesting turns, especially since the Forerunner are probably humans. Meaning that the Covenant are trying to exterminate the descendents of the creators of all they hold sacred. And finally, I'm sick of the "video game" argument. Any medium has the huge potential to be translated poorly to the screen. Video game movies have sucked because no one has cared and it's always been to capitalize on the name and not to make a good movie. If Jackson and co. are actually TRYING to make a good movie and not just cashing in, then I think that could completely change the way people see video game movies. It doesn't matter what the inspiration for a film is, it matters what is done with that inspiration. I think it's very shortsighted to look at all potential video game movies like that.
Could be quite different by declan_44	Oct 31st, 2006 03:01:26 AM
I realize that it is a way back in the talkback, but to the bloke who said FPS does not work well for film adaptations, you must appreciate that Halo offers, first, a complete narrative (Ok, well the third one is not out yet, but I cannot imagine them not continuing the story arc). Doom had no narrative to speak off. Second, Halo has an amazing protagonist, that we were allowed to identify with. Imagine a film version where, like the game, he speaks only rarely and we never see his face (also imagine all you would save on casting). You could never understand Doom's protagonist as the game never allowed the player to. But I will admit that there is some general flaws with video game adaptations, in that the reason that the game market is now bigger than hollywood, is that it enables you, the player or avatar, to dictate the narrative. So when we see something that we expect we could play, even better than is filmed, we become dissapointed that we cannot. I am on the fence with this news. I mean the Flood could be done scary as s&%t, but then I imagine Master Chief pulling off his helmet halfway through, JUDE LAW (Or another tosser) SMILING AT THE CAMERA, before kissing...say Kirsten Dunst. I mean all credit to Mr. Jackson, but he is not really a groundbreaking director. His films are beautiful, but do not make any jumps ahead in terms of film study. This is what video game adaptations need, a totally new look for the big screen, not just the same old Hollywood method of filming. Frank Miller perhaps (After seeing the 300 trailer)?
Will this affect AVATAR? by Rindain	Oct 31st, 2006 03:06:53 AM
Maybe with Halo out of Fox's hands they will fast track James Cameron's AVATAR and maybe even increase its budget. At the very least, they hopefully won't give Cameron as hard a time as they gave Peter, Fran, and Microsoft. I just want to see an awesome, mega-bidget sci-fi movie with WETA effects, and now that HALO is at least temporarily out of the picture I hope the upside is that AVATAR will really get rolling. I want to see some production art or hear some official casting news ASAP.
When Microsoft bought Bungie by Roderich	Oct 31st, 2006 03:08:22 AM
...to use superior knowledge and style created by a game-company for Apple macintosh-computers to boost their ugly me-too-product "X-Box", they did what they always do: Harvest other people's ideas. Why should Microsoft make a good motion picture? At least they know by themselves, that they know absolutely _nothing_ about creativity.
Great news! by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 31st, 2006 03:23:09 AM
There has never been a good movie made out of a computer game. Keep computer games on the computer screens and get writing real movies you Hollywood jackasses!!!!!
Why are so many of you complaining? by Darth Mulder	Oct 31st, 2006 03:39:59 AM
Right now so many of you are saying how retarded the studios are for backing out of this.But if the film were actually being made,these very same people would be screaming about how sorry the film turned out.No film is ever good enough for most talk backers on this site.Even a really good movie like "King Kong" directed by Peter The Great wasn't good enough for you. what makes you think this movie would be any better than the other video game based films that have come before it?
Calling Dr. Boll.... by DarthBakpao	Oct 31st, 2006 03:55:51 AM
Somewhere in Germany, Uwe Boll is praying...
Who cares? by ssr_x	Oct 31st, 2006 04:04:49 AM
The game is an average FPS with a non-existent storyline and crap alien designs. How was this supposed to be a good movie, exactly?
ssr-x by declan_44	Oct 31st, 2006 04:12:27 AM
Since you have shown that you are an 'expert' of games, please tell us, what is a good fps with a story-line?
Wow, there won't be another movie based on a game? by JackPumpkinhead	Oct 31st, 2006 04:22:32 AM
That's so sad. Maybe some upcoming remake of a classic horror will be canceled this week, too? That would really be too sad, I would probably fall from laughing too hard with all this "sadness"...
Declan, isn't it Half-Life? by TheMackenzie	Oct 31st, 2006 04:23:09 AM
Do I win a prize?
Maybe I misread you LIONBIU . . . by PMonkeyReclaimed	Oct 31st, 2006 04:29:49 AM
But I think you said that King Kong, and I quote "sucked fucking donkey balls." And that makes me sad for you. Why, you ask? It's because you couldn't recognize that King Kong is one of the greatest and most beautiful movies of our time. Oh wait, I bet it was too long, huh? Or maybe you could have done without the first hour? Tell you what. You go ahead and give my best to Michael Bay and leave enjoying good movies to myself and the other people who have good taste and an attention span. I hear that there's gonna be lots of big explosions and good one-liners in the new Transformers movie. That ought to work for you, right? You still there? I know how you get when you don't take your special "slow down" pills . . .
ONLY POSTPONED by FofR	Oct 31st, 2006 04:47:44 AM
http://halomovie.trivialbeing. net/ "Please note POSTPONED does NOT mean canceled. So many news articles claimed Game Over for the Halo movie, it's not over, it's an unfortunate set back."
Screw video game movies. Make the Hobbit! by Walterego	Oct 31st, 2006 04:51:46 AM
Jackson needs to stop wasting time on stuff that anybody could make. Nobody else is going to make the Hobbit, whereas a first person shooter game movie adaption could be done by just about any director/producer in hollywood. Luc Besson would do just as good a job or perhaps better than Jackson.
oh dear.. by Evil Hobbit	Oct 31st, 2006 05:00:12 AM
..most depressing news in the early morning. On the other hand, it aint. Maybe they now just fight there way to the hardcore R rated Halo movie we so desire, yes plz get Legendary or New Line on it. I have faith in the creative team and Blomkamp to pull it of his previous work is amazing, so will Halo.
Who knows? by Franklin T Marmoset	Oct 31st, 2006 05:02:06 AM
Maybe this is good news for the fans of this Halo videogame. When the top auteurs of the videogame film genre are Uwe Boll and Paul W S Anderson, perhaps it is time to throw up your hands and say 'Uncle'. 'This is a difficult nut to crack,' we must say, 'and us puny humans are not adequately evolved to properly operate the nutcrackers. Or something.' The acceptance of this knowledge will make us all happier, I think. Also, there will be no more Silent Hill films.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Oct 31st, 2006 05:06:33 AM
That's less competition for The Dark Knight in 2008... but damn, I really wanted to see them pull this one off...
I agree with Mackenzie by ssr_x	Oct 31st, 2006 05:08:40 AM
HL2 has a great premise, but it's bolstered by the game's fantastic art direction and I'm not convinced they're not making up the G-man stuff as they go along. It probably wouldn't translate well to the big screen. But then few games would. Perhaps they should just stop making them altogether? But by all means, Declan, please explain what is so special about Halo that would make such a great movie.
ssr_x by Evil Hobbit	Oct 31st, 2006 05:17:32 AM
It's the thrill of Halo realy. The brutal war action of the game. The alien war. You know how frikkin amazing it would be to see in film the landing on the beach with this big ass aircrafts. Then you are dropped in the middle of the action where they drive around on there Warthogs. Kick of Aliens from there Banshees. Step on it themselves to slaughter more aliens. The brilliant music swelling, the sun flaring in the lens. Believe me, you want to see that kind of action on film. There is this unique feel about the Halo universe that is so compelling for film as well. Perhaps Halo is better of to be produced indepent. Or else maybe even Disney.
Not convinced by ssr_x	Oct 31st, 2006 05:40:06 AM
I've seen that kind of thing on film before, and read it in books, and there's nothing unique about Halo that suggests it would do anything differently. Maybe if you've not played many FPS games or read much sci-fi Halo would seem revolutionary, but it's not surprising the studios turned it down when the money could be better spent on several more deserving projects. If it's epic SF they want there are a ton of novels out there. Make a Bolo film, or do John Steakley's Armor or Joe Haldeman's Forever War. If you want something epic, make Iain M. Banks Consider Phlebas.
They're making Street Fighter! BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! by DOGSOUP	Oct 31st, 2006 05:59:18 AM
Stupid stupid cokeheaded franchise killing starlet raping cocksucking studios. Hey it's funny when they shoot their own feet! It's classic comedy!
Sit down and think by aestheticity	Oct 31st, 2006 06:02:30 AM
you halflife dickheads. What story could a halflife film tell? The first game is exclusively you, with guns, and a dude in a suit who walks past sometimes, with a ridiculous ending. The second game is better, but is still just you, running and gunning, with an assortment of characters helping you now and then, and another retarded ending. At no point does the 'narrative' leave you with your guns. Halo, you dolts dont seem to know, is set within a larger universe with its own events taking place previously and concurrently. Both games involve multiple antagonists, intrigue, empathy and pathos, big action, military bravado (always sells) and I could go on. OK the second game has a weak ending, but it's there to lead into the third game. When you nerds start trying to talk about mice and keyboards in a movie talkback, you lose all credibility.
Whats with everyone spoofing themselves.... by YourDaddy	Oct 31st, 2006 06:02:56 AM
...over this fucking game? Its no different to many FPS out there. THe only reason its huge and sold so many units was because it was the first game made for the X box...in other words, there was no other fucking games to buy!! Of course its going to be popular you fucking retards!! It doesnt mean its anything spectacular that warrants a big budget movie. Get over this Halo cockfest.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Oct 31st, 2006 06:19:35 AM
Why do people keep saying the budget was too high! The reports in the last few weeks clearly stated that the budget was around 130 million but Microsoft and PJ back end percentages were too high for them.. That's probably theeeeeeeee main reason they backed out of Halo... The studios won't make much of a profit since most of it is going to MS and PJ...
Maybe... by Freefinger	Oct 31st, 2006 06:31:47 AM
The studios are afraid Jackson will pull out, and be replaced with Micheal Bay.... ? Or maybe the script ain't that good after all and they don't want to be caught with another Superman (Even if they confirmed that they were going ahead with Superman Returns Again...). they might want to hold off... I think it's good news. If they are about to make this film, might as well do it has it's supposed to, going all out and being the next great franchise, and for that you need to have the right people and Studios backing you.
Why Microsoft Won't Finance Themselves by ByTor	Oct 31st, 2006 06:33:39 AM
Because they're not imbeciles. Video game movies always suck, and typically suck at the box office. Why would MS risk $200m (and say what you will; that's a lot of money, even to MS)? Much better to get a studio to risk it, esp. as that's what studios do.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Oct 31st, 2006 06:34:12 AM
Why do people keep saying the budget was too high! The reports in the last few weeks clearly stated that the budget was around 130 million but Microsoft and PJ back end percentages were too high for them.. That's probably theeeeeeeee main reason they backed out of Halo... The studios won't make much of a profit since most of it is going to MS and PJ...
Universal just had some cash free up and guess what ! by Mace Tofu	Oct 31st, 2006 06:35:18 AM
Todays news: Universal is paying $42.5 million for the worldwide rights to the film "Bruno," Sacha Baron Cohen's follow-up movie to "Borat.". The price includes the production budget of the film, rumored to be in the $20 million-$25 million range. Also included is a significant profit-participation component for the film's participants, believed to be the 15% range. why make a cool sci-fi epic when you can make a $42 million dollar gay comedy...Great.
I'd imagine this movie would be like the game... by Pongo	Oct 31st, 2006 06:35:29 AM
in the fact that if you went with friends it would be fun but if you watched it by yourself it would be boring and repetitive.
In response to "Helo" by Freefinger	Oct 31st, 2006 06:36:52 AM
Yeah would be great to see a ballsy move by MS to auto finance the movie. But I think there was only one guy who had the balls to invest in something so big, he made airplanes, then movies, then bought a casino, went a little nuts and died... Howard Hughes... We need another one like him... Someone way rich guy who doesn't care if he loses a couple of million if it doesn't make the money it's supposed to make as long as it's good and true to the game's storyline. Hell, if they stay with the storyline they should have a garanteed hit and make a huge profit.
Studios only want cheap suckage like AvP by performingmonkey	Oct 31st, 2006 06:50:00 AM
They're not interested in financing a videogame movie that's taking itself seriously. By the way, the only person who can possibly save the sci-fi movie is CAMERON. Watch this motherfucking space for Avatar, you fatherfucks.
Hey, Mace Tofu by ByTor	Oct 31st, 2006 07:03:18 AM
The Borat sequel is uber-cheap and will quickly turn a profit. Can't say that about a sci-fi epic, ESPECIALLY one based on a video game (did I mention all movies based on video games suck?).
Whatever happened to... by GoonF	Oct 31st, 2006 07:11:58 AM
WETA's Evangelion movie?
has anybody seen John Galt lately? by moondoggy2u	Oct 31st, 2006 07:17:48 AM
That guy owes me 20 bucks--it appears that Superman did gross over 200 million dollars (finally) and got the green light for a sequel. I hope Galt isnt a welcher.
Stop being snobs--this would have rocked by Ricky Henderson	Oct 31st, 2006 07:20:20 AM
First off, Halo isn't like many other videogames. Its a massive sci-fi universe with a backstory told by books, graphic novels, and music. At its core, the story is very similar to Star Wars--it's a big, fun, bombastic space opera. The whole universe lends itself perfectly to a movie treatment. The idiots on this board need to actually resarch something before slandering it. I'm really curious to see what the preliminary work was before this project got shelved. Knowing Microsoft, this won't stay shelved for long--there are too many people who realize that this movie would absolutely break the mold of "bad videogame movies." Stop slamming something you haven't ever experienced and pick up the game sometime, mmmkay? Morons.
Just as well... by Ironmuskrat	Oct 31st, 2006 07:26:06 AM
It most likely would have ended up as some horrible Starship Troopers clone, but without the gratuitous nudity.
ScienceMan by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 07:26:50 AM
HAHAHA... ahem... real video games? You sound like a kid in a playground taunting his friends... I can't stand people who resort to saying certain games are for kids. Especially Halo or Zelda. The real kids are the ones who aren't comfortable enough with their gamer image so they try to make their favroutie games somehow more grown-up than the competing material. It's a frigging VIDEO GAME! Also, I disagree with your Pink Floy danalogy. And just because I'm a Pink Floyd fan deosn't validate your argument.
Sigh by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 07:38:32 AM
I agree with one side who argues that the history of videogame movies had been shitty. But I agree with the other side who say that it's not the fact that it's a videogame that made past movies shit, it was the fact that they were shit movies. Saying a movie is going to be shit because it was a FPS game is like saying the movie will be shit because Lost in Space was set on another planet and that was shit too. I haven't played Halo, and I haven't liked a single game movie, but then past game movies haven't had this talent behind them. As someone else said earlier, all films based on theme park rides aren't going to be good, but sometimes a Pirates of the Caribean will come along.
Does anyone really and truly give a shit? by lucasisking	Oct 31st, 2006 07:42:08 AM
I have never, ever seen a good movie made from a computer game. Resident Evil 4 is probably one of the best games ever, but the movies suck. Just like every other game-based movie sucks. Silent Hill, Doom, Mortal Combat- just stop already. The Peter Jackson connection means nothing (how many crap films were peddled by attaching Tarantino's name to them every five minutes?). It's all about story. Games don't make good movies and movies don't usually make good games. Use one of the HUNDREDS of good sci-fi novels out there as source material. Better still, come up with something ORIGINAL.
i agree with zombiesolutions by moondoggy2u	Oct 31st, 2006 07:44:36 AM
I hear that Star Wars is pretty good, too. Supposedly, it even has Harrison Ford in it--deffinitely on my "reccomend to friends" list.
"Mister Gates! Mister Gates!" by tonagan	Oct 31st, 2006 07:48:51 AM
"Don't spend that $300 million to help stop the spread of HIV in Africa, use it to finance a movie!"
sweet by spidercoz	Oct 31st, 2006 07:56:31 AM
Now if they just shit-can the new Street Fighter movie that'll make my day.
Fox does make good decisions afterall by DigitalDong	Oct 31st, 2006 07:58:29 AM
It would have been like the video game anyways. Good opening weekend, then fizzles to nothing the next week....just like Halo 2 did.
so...all you have to do by Westonian	Oct 31st, 2006 08:05:44 AM
to direct a movie like halo is make a short film like alive in Joberg? Its not really that great you know. I don't blame fox and universal.
D&D, video game, RPG wetdreams.... by tucson	Oct 31st, 2006 08:13:40 AM
...all of them are pretty exciting to the guys spooging on themselves. No one wants to see it made into a movie.
RE: ByTor The Borat sequel is uber-cheap by Mace Tofu	Oct 31st, 2006 08:23:57 AM
"The Borat sequel is uber-cheap and will quickly turn a profit..." WOW. What world do you live in where $42 million and 15% of your profits is UBER-CHEAP. So BRUNO would have to make 3X or $126 million to turn a profit. UBER-CHEAP? OK Whatever I still would like to see WETA blow the $$$ and UNI could shoot BRUNO on Mini DV and it would still be as funny.
Halo Don't Cha Know...with Chips 'n Salsa by kuguy3000	Oct 31st, 2006 08:29:09 AM
Hey Hey What's this Quint? You malign the story of the Street Fighter series as not being film-worthy, yet both praise and lament that Halo's tale won't make the big screen? That's ok...we're all entitled to our opinons (even if they are nutso). Ha ha...just kiddin with ya, we're both right. Truth is, anyone who knows anything remotely TRUE about video games knows two things about the Halo games...ONE (1) they were fun FPS games, and TWO (2) the series was the single saving grace for the XBOX platform. That said... no Halo = No XBOX system. Yeah, I'm not exaggerating, so don't flame me or else I'll throw ABBA tunes at you. As far as expanding the Halo games, maybe now was the right time and maybe it wasn't... from everything that's known about Bungie and MS, it's hard to believe for a second that either company was 'unwilling to budge or compromise quality'. Are you joking?!! Both MS and Bungie are NOTORIOUS (mostly MS...hiss) for rushing their product to market. Case in point... 1. the original Halo, designed for both PC and MAC from the start, was seriously rushed to meet the original XB release date. As a result, multiplayer was thrown together, and native online play was disabled. The original game's scope was shortned considerably and true cooperative gameplay was muted into a travesty. 2. HALO 2, to make the MS deadline, had several of it's unique multiplayer features (such as unique skins, character physics, etc) disabled to meet deadline. Also gone was the promised online cooperative play, and we were left with an abbreviated single-player mission that couldn't touch the first game. I've mentioned this before...and while I'm a big fan of the Halo gameplay, I considered the second game more of an upgrade (continuation) than a sequel. For the most part, I'm fine with this... because I find the game to be quite fun. However, to think for one second that either the king of stymied development (Microsoft) or king of the bloated film (Peter Jackson) somehow had their awe-inspiring vision compromised is a joke. Jackson's notorious for going over-budget and (besides the Lord of the Rings) promsing more than he delivers. And this Weta pre-sketch stuff? PUH-LEEEEEEEZE! Anyone remember those amazing Weta predesigns for Lion, Witch, Wardrobe WW2 scenes? Of which ZIPPO made it into the final film? Weta's cool and all, but personally I'd like to see the same division of ILM that handles Speilbergo's work handled Halo... the effects in War of the World reminded me so much of Master Chief and his exploits...wow. Anyhoos...before I skeedaddle, one last thing. Seems that Quint and his internet-type look at press releases as 'gospel' so here's old Kuguy to set ya'll straight on the 'facts'. This is primarily a movie site so I consider this relevent... The game industry, while making it's billions, doesn't touch the film industry. Not by a long shot. Those releases that claim games sales to out-do that of movies are factually incorrect. They compare apples with oranges, and shouldn't be put in one delicious pie...here's how. Routinely, the entire cumulative GROSS of everything video game related does indeed out-gross theatrical earnings of all films, compared to the same empirical data of the ENTIRE film industry... well, it can't compare. When a game like Super Mario Brothers or Halo performs well, yes...they typically gross far more income than most films, and even most hit films (this is especially true when you take budget into consideration). For instance...take Goldeneye, game and movie... Goldeneye (great game btw) sold 8 million copies. Multiply that by $50 and you have upwards of $400 million in the til. That's gross. The MOVIE version of Goldeneye earned $150+ in US box office, and $350+ worldwide. Even at the extreme level the game outgrossed the film. Taking budget and advertising into account, the game becomes insanely more profitable. In fact, the game is regularly given credit for jump-starting the franchise back to life...ya hear? Most games don't sell that well, and neither do movies. That was an extreme example. Halo the game was treated much like a movie... hyped quite a bit through advertising and product-promotion, but in reality was never both the true blockbuster it was made out to be, nor could it have been. Halo was, and will always be, a niche genre game. An amazingly fun niche, genre game but the same nonetheless. First-day sales of 2.5 million (which is hella lot) notwithstanding, the series has never had (and never will) the universal appeal of let's say a Super Mario Brothers or Legend of Zelda... and that's COOL. Godfather doesn't have the universal appeal of Star Wars... that make it bad? In fact, most of the films this site champions most aren't huge blockbusters, but that hardly diminishes their value.. and thank goodness we have the option of choosing. But comparing the gross of any game to any movie is ridiculous... and silly. The average blockbuster game nearly always out-grosses the average blockbuster film for too many reasons to count... but by and large, the film industry makes more hits. Of course, which leads me to my last point... With graphics becoming so lifelike and systems getting more powerful (and overpriced...cough PS3) it's certain that games and movies will merge more...to my chagrin. Damn.. how many times you guys turn on a game and have to sit through TONS of shitty 'movie-like' titles and cinemas before you actually play the game? If I wanted to watch a movie I would WATCH a movie... I play a game to actually PLAY a game. Some developers don't realize this... and even your beloved Final Fantasy and Metal Gear series are super-guilty of this... where's the real gameplay, yo? GAMEPLAY! That said, if I turn on my new Legend of Zelda and see Link throwing back a Mountain Dew, and watchin' "Friends" I'm done with games...done I tells ya. Of course, something tells me that old Nintendy ain't gonna let that happen... peace!
Tempted to say:"Didn´t I say no studio will want Halo?" by MasterKenobi	Oct 31st, 2006 08:47:58 AM
After Universal and Fox dropped out. We can call the studios whatever we want. We can call Fox evil, it´s leader Rupert Murdoch the single most evil media mogul in the world. They also destroyed many great franchises, which I like to hate them for. But that won´t change the fact they were smart enough to realize NOT to give mr. Jackson 200 million plus to make a movie based on a videogame, which is way overhyped. The other studios reasoning went the same: Why give a director who´s recent film didn´t meet expectations, why give any director 200 millions, like Warner did with Supes. No more 200 million budget movies. I know Kong fans will start again and claim Kond did well at B.O. yadda yadda, but it didn´t. Period. And those who say Microsoft should go in and finance the flick, I can´t agree more. But we all know Gates and Microsoft are greedy fuckers. Microsoft sits on over 30 billion $ in cash. It has more money in reserve than Sony, Apple and Universal and couple of other companies combined, but they won´t spent 200 million on a Halo film. Personally I hope the film will get made. I believe that as long as Peter Jackson doesn´t interefer with the script (making it 3 hours long) a visionary director together with Wetas effects team can make quite a good sci-fi film.
for whoever suggested a Zelda movie by BLWiseass	Oct 31st, 2006 08:51:32 AM
Does anybody else think that Leo Dicapprio looks like Link? Like the adult link, not the little elf version. Well, actually i guess Leo is a bit of a little elf.
I dont blame em. by Omegaman	Oct 31st, 2006 08:52:56 AM
I wouldnt trust Peter Jackson either. Look at the mess he made out of King Kong. And why the LOR movies were so successful I dont know, I thought they were, for the most part, a bore. get the project away from Jackson and maybe then the studios would make it.
movies based on video games by ZO	Oct 31st, 2006 09:05:21 AM
never work
bill gates? by AlltoEasy	Oct 31st, 2006 09:12:32 AM
the dudes got enough cash, why can't pony up the money?
Read the script review at Latino Reviews damnit by Ricky Henderson	Oct 31st, 2006 09:18:01 AM
The script is out there and has been for a while Snuffles. Try googling something before making an ignorant comment. Hey, I've got an idea! How about more people chime to inform us that "MOVIES BASED ON VIDEOGAMES NEVER WORK!!!" I haven't heard that enough at all. This is a franchise with the potential to change all that with a balls to the wall, epic, space opera that would give Star Wars a run for its money. If you fools cant see that then youre worthless.
Having my ass handed it to me at 2am by an 8 year old.. by Frank Black	Oct 31st, 2006 09:20:40 AM
...is fun but it doesn't mean it will be a good movie! I have logged many, many hours of Halo 2 online but wasn't blown away by the story or the characters (who we never really get to know or truly see, Kenny from South Park anyone?) so why would I get excited to see this become a movie when there hasn't been ONE video game movie adaptation yet that proved to be worth making. (Silent Hill game close for me but I love those games.) Video games are all kind of derivative of other things (especially older movies) so it makes sense that they the movies always come off looking like bad replicas. A Devil May Cry movie might be fun, or a ShadowMan movie but Halo, for as much fun as it can be with 7 other people online, doesn't seem like a very entertaining stay in the theater. (Now, Gears of War might actually live up to it's hype on the 360 and make a great game! We shall see!)
That really is dissapointing by godzillasushi	Oct 31st, 2006 09:21:24 AM
Its a series that has such great scenery, and characters, and storylines. I can only hope that they wont be this stupid in the future. This is the kind of movie that would attract people with no interest in the game simply because it would be such a good sci-fi movie.
MasterKenobi by godzillasushi	Oct 31st, 2006 09:26:37 AM
You say "smart enough to realize NOT to give mr. Jackson 200 million plus to make a movie based on a videogame, which is way overhyped." but wouldnt a game that is THAT overhyped be a good thing dude? I mean they have not made a video game movie based on one of the top tier franchises. Im talking Zelda, MGS, and Halo. Those are all uberhyped titles and making any of them into a movie would be huge. M$ is smart not to finance the whole thing themselves because of the risk they would take on. They arent a movie studio afterall. Honestly though, respecting your opinion, I would much rather have an overhyped game-movie then anything else, wouldnt you?!?
Halo was trite and poorly designed by jimmy_009	Oct 31st, 2006 09:34:51 AM
Seriously, if you want to bore yourself to sleep, pick up the 'Art' of Halo. It's generic crap.
jimmy_009 by godzillasushi	Oct 31st, 2006 09:36:14 AM
You are teh smartest evaaarrrr!!11!11!!!
it was badly designed... by Obscura	Oct 31st, 2006 09:38:00 AM
from one perspective. the level design was pathetic (just sticking the same room together 50 times does not count as a level) but it did have good potential for a movie. it had enough room for scriptwriters to add their own flare, it was epic anough, and the visuals are always grand. it didnt really do anything new, it just did things well. except level design
RETARDED?!? This is the best news I've heard all year!! by Nate Champion	Oct 31st, 2006 09:53:23 AM
Hello, assholes. Who the fuck needs another shitty video game adaptation directed by some no-name clown with a mediocre short film to his name? If you care even one fucking iota about cinema, this is cause for celebration.
Does Harry ever write for this site anymore? by googamooga	Oct 31st, 2006 09:53:36 AM
I'm just saying...
I can't feel bad about this, not surprised either. by minderbinder	Oct 31st, 2006 10:02:20 AM
There's no way in hell this thing would be a guaranteed huge moneymaker, just look at Final Fantasy (also enormous fanbase and millions of games sold). MS wanted a ton of creative control, and the movie would have been extremely expensive, potentially approaching $200M PLUS profits would be shared with MS and likely PJ's crew as well. Huge risk for a genre that has never had a hit anywhere near that big. It's obvious why MS won't finance it themselves, they realize it's a big risk and just want to call the shots on someone else's dime. "they have not made a video game movie based on one of the top tier franchises." They certainly did, and it was called Final Fantasy, one of the biggest game franchises ever and still going strong.
ALIVE IN JOBURG SUCKED!!! STOP PRAISING THAT CRAP by wolvenom	Oct 31st, 2006 10:09:29 AM
Seriously now i know how full of crap this site can sometimes be when they praise a 5 minute (potential youtube feature) piece of crap that the only thing it had to show for it was special effects.WELL GUESS WHAT AICN!!!! BLOMKAMP OR WHATEVER WAS HIRED TO DIRECT THE FILM NOT DO THE SPECIAL EFFECTS... GO BACK AND WATCH THAT FIVE MINUTE FILM TAKE OUT THE AWESOMENESS OF THE FX (awesome by short film standards, shitty by any other standards) AND THEN TELL ME HOW GREAT THAT PIECE OF CRAP IS... it had no story and it made the aliens look like degenerate retards.
rather see Half Life too by mikey mike	Oct 31st, 2006 10:11:20 AM
n/a
This is the third time this news has been reported. by kiddae	Oct 31st, 2006 10:13:18 AM
First as SHOCK news, then as AWESOME news ("Fuck Fox and Universal!!") and now as BAD/DEPRESSING news. Granted, there's a press release now, but it doesn't tell us anything we didn't know.
Halo 3 coming out in 2007 will revive this project. by Ricky Henderson	Oct 31st, 2006 10:21:05 AM
This movie will be revived once Halo 3 hits the stores. There will be a huge spotlight on how ridiculously well it sells for the 360. Once all these studios realize this, they will all scramble back to Microsoft's feet, I'm sure of it.
You people make me laugh! by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 10:28:02 AM
All you winers out there giving Bill Gates crap for not personally financing this movie. Um, he's too busy with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation--you know, finding a cure for AIDS, eliminating world hunger, stuff like that. I'm pretty sure coughing up $200 mill for a video game movie is a little low on his to-do list right about now...
Overhyped game by MasterKenobi	Oct 31st, 2006 10:35:43 AM
It doesn´t need 200 million. That was my point. You are right when you say a studio should start by making a game as overhyped as Halo. It has lots of fans, but not as many as Superman. Now that film hadn´t enough action etc..., but even then; 200 million for a first movie in a franchise is just too much. You say Microsoft don´t want to take the risk. Yeah, that´s clear, but neither do the studios. Your point that they are no filmstudio is true, but they were no gameproducers console-makers either. They are very much involved with creating entertainment content these days. The thing with this whole story seems that Jackson and Microsoft just asked for too much money from the studios to start with. That happened with Kong and this time they didn´t want to give Jackson as much money. I can understand them. Now a solution would be for Microsoft to co-finance and pay Jackson some of his dear cash. Jackson and co must compromise if they want the studios interested in this project. As it looks now no studio dares to put money on Halo, regardless of how many oscars and how much money lord of the rings won the studios and Jackson.
Someone go get my little, tiny violin by georges garvaren	Oct 31st, 2006 10:35:56 AM
It's one more videogame spin-off that wont be mediocre. If Jackson wants to do help Elves and Giant Monkeys make their way to the screen, then that is fine even if the films are not the greatest. But at least the stories are worthwhile tales to tell. Halo, however, is not. Halos enjoyment lies in the interaction it has with the audience, not in its story or character development. At best this could be only popcorn and since we get so many of those poo-sacks every bloody week, let us not weep for one more that wont invade our lives for months of advertising bombardment. Now, I’m going to go play Wolfenstein 3D. Wait? They should make Wolfenstein into a movie! You go call Weta, I’m going to go take a piss.
Because Hostel 2 won't cost much... by Some Dude	Oct 31st, 2006 10:44:15 AM
...will make money and will be good. Halo, not so much.
Who the fuck cares? by HumbertHumbert	Oct 31st, 2006 10:47:34 AM
Halo is the Dane Cook of video games.
Response to "wolvenom" by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 10:48:54 AM
So I took your advice and watched "Alive in Joburg" without paying attention to the SFX. You know what? I still (honestly) think it's an awesome piece of work. Blomkamp nailed the tone-- the grimy chaos of South Africa in the 1990's. Trust me, I lived in Johanessburg around that time. Sure he made the aliens look like degenate retards like you said, but I welcomed the originality. Who would think to make a short film about refugee aliens in South Africa? I'll tell you who--a dude with fresh ideas. Hollywood is going to crap and we need some new blood NOW. I'm sorry that you hate the piece, but it seems to me like you're one of the few.
ya bill gates should totally fund this piece of garbage by wolvenom	Oct 31st, 2006 10:56:26 AM
Halo is dog crap! I played the game and by no means found the story that entertaining. The gameplay is the only entertaining thing about it. But as far as the story goes its on par with doom,and duke nuke em. We saw how those movies turned out.
newclassic u agree the aliens were degenerate retards by wolvenom	Oct 31st, 2006 11:00:29 AM
that's all a sci-fi movie needs involving aliens to make it terrible. The fact that aliens can travel billions of lightyears away and dont have any sort of secondary, tertiary, or failsafe precautions to avoid being stranded on earth. FURTHER, BARELY HAVING ANY GOD DAMN TECHNOLOGY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST FREAKING GUNS?
ha ha by reckni	Oct 31st, 2006 11:06:39 AM
don't really care, but are the studios out of touch?
NEXT SUMMER ACTION AND ADVENTURE HAS NO BUDGET by davidlyons	Oct 31st, 2006 11:07:25 AM
mark my words this little flick made by somebody in there basement will piss all over transformers youtube.com smoking monkey movie trailer
oh and another thing by davidlyons	Oct 31st, 2006 11:15:06 AM
it's made using the movies. so does that mean it counts as a computer game film!
It's now time for... by rbatty024	Oct 31st, 2006 11:16:17 AM
Uwe Boll to sweep through and bring this thing to the big screen. If the studios are worried about budget, then Uwe is your man. Hell he can make a movie on $8.50 and a stick of gum.
wolvenom by NewClassic	Oct 31st, 2006 11:18:38 AM
E.T. didn't have technology to defend himself from guns and we all know how that movie did! But seriously, what I'm confused about is how you can say thay had no tech to defend themselves. They magnetically threw cars at people while wearing bullerproof armor! That sounds like technology to me. The point of the short film is that these aliens are REFUGEES and have NOTHING. They don't want to be here, they don't want to fight, they don't want to globally dominate, they just want to refuel and get the fuck out! In turn, we as humans kind of become the enemy. You might think it's lame, but I totally respect the angle Blomkamp chose.
M$ is indeed to blame by FrodoFraggins	Oct 31st, 2006 11:20:19 AM
M$ wanted a much bigger cut of the gross than they could get a studio to bite on. They apparently want the studios to take all of the risk and just hand M$ cash if it's a hit...Couldn't they have simply made a one film deal and taken a more standard cut. If they had faith in the director and the product they would then be able to come back and demand MUCH more on a sequel...Sounds to me like they lack faith in the product as much as the studios.
This sucks by Johnno	Oct 31st, 2006 11:22:04 AM
A video game based movie can be done folks... just need effort!
Video games don't make good movies? give me a break by Krigan	Oct 31st, 2006 11:22:20 AM
First up I'm sorry for insulting folks but that is an incredibly ignorant statement and all of you that keep saying it are not true film fans. If you were you would understand that a compelling film can be made about any subject with the right talent behind it.
Note to studios - by Lando Griffin	Oct 31st, 2006 11:24:39 AM
If Harry gives your movie a favorable review or pre-production endorsement - it is destined to suck, fail and you will lose money. That IESB post is funny because its accurate.
Fox wanted to avoid making a shitty movie? by StarBlitzer	Oct 31st, 2006 11:54:41 AM
HOW DID FANTASTIC FOUR MANAGE TO GET MADE???
VIDEO GAME MOVIES SUCK? by antonphd	Oct 31st, 2006 11:58:41 AM
Video game movies have sucked because they have either been made by shitty directors and/or for way the hell too low of a budget. Doom was a fucking piece of shit for two huge reasons: 1, the budget was shit; 2, because the budget was shit they couldn't afford to make the demons from Hell and they made them mutated humans?!?!!? The Doom movie would have made a bundle if it had been properly financed and had actually followed the game story. Saving Earth from an invasion of demons from hell... that's fun... that would have been a hell of a ride. Video game are at least as good of a source as comics are and we've seen the difference between half ass comic movies and real comic movies.
There will never be a Half-Life movie. by mbeemer	Oct 31st, 2006 12:04:49 PM
Which is not to say it wasn't a GREAT game, but no one will adapt it for the screen. The reason? In Halo, you are running around gunning down aliens; in Half-Life, half of your targets are U.S. SOLDIERS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS. Yeah, they're trying to kill you, but no studio is going to paint the Army as bad guys who should be mowed down (regardless of how satisfying it was to do it in the game).
Skiddish Studios by Team RamRod	Oct 31st, 2006 12:08:19 PM
I think we're seeing the trickle-down effects of risky high-priced talent deals in Hollywood. It seems like the studios are getting more cautious in allowing projects to go forth with big up-front and especially back-end deals. It backfired for MI:III and KONG, where the movies did great business but not by the standard of profitability. With that said, it's a shame b/c this movie will kick ass once it's eventually made.
Bill Gates by blackwood	Oct 31st, 2006 12:09:19 PM
Name another richest man in the world who donates 40% of his wealth to a greater good. I used to be all up on the hate wagon our M$ Twitpin, but really, when it comes to mettle, he's decked to the nines. Anyway. N ever played Halo (Nintendo fan), but I'm bummed because Blomkamp shows a hell of a lot of promise. Dear Hollywood - maybe your coffers would be more full if you started taking smart risks, instead of repeating stupid mistakes. Did you know that film, among other things, is art? Did you know that there are people toiling in the industry underbelly who are, in fact, better than what you have, and maybe ever had? Hollywood, sweety, it's like this - you are becoming irrelevant. I mean, it's not like you were particularly relevant to begin with, but there was a time when distraction and craft, art and artifact, actors - real actors, not stars - met to produce moving images that edified as they entertained. That drew people in with artifice (which is in abundance now), but kept them coming back with meat. With guts. With blood in the veins. Not now. Now it is flash and secondary markets and trailers cut more cleverly than the films they pimp. You are hollow. You are a ghost of greatness. This is the way your industry ends - not with bang, but the sound of hands not clapping. Hmm. Apparently, I had something to say.
NachoAfricanAmerican by s00p3rm4n	Oct 31st, 2006 12:09:41 PM
Hey, don't call me a twat. I've got friends to do that. And also, that wasn't my point. My point was that books have something called "stories" in them. These videogame movies have no stories or meaningful characters. They are a series of unfortunate events with no lemony or snicket. I only brought Paul Verhoeven into the equation a) because I was drunk and Showgirls always makes me laugh when drunk and b) because anyone trying to make a shitty movie without a story will only end up trying to outdo something Verhoeven's already done, and better. Still, though, my point is valid. Adaptation of "established properties" (i.e. shit that's made people money already) has become 99% of the story property of Hollywood. It's no longer storytelling - it's regurgitation and profit margins. That said, it's always been that way. But at least they could play pretend about it before! And at least (as you so brightly pointed out, pfft) our pioneering "filmmakers" of yesteryear had books from which to work, with (again) storylines and actual characters. And not polygons. POLYGONS HAVE NO SOUL! Someone call the asshole with the "drum machines have no soul" bumper stickers! I've got a new mission of douchebaggery for him.
Enough of the bullshit!! by Simon Cabron	Oct 31st, 2006 12:13:30 PM
Bring on Yar's Revenge-The Movie!!!
The movie studios aren't retarded--the audiences are! by Bob Cryptonight	Oct 31st, 2006 12:18:03 PM
And the audience deserves a movie like this...BASED ON A GAME! Why not? You morons seem so excited about a movie BASED ON A TOY! Transformers? Give me a break! How about THE BIG WHEEL MOVIE? Why not a movie based on JC PENNEY's Spring Argyle Socks Sale? Or better yet...a movie based on a T.V. DINNER!!! Try to grow up a bit, kids!
Blame Blokamp? by DrTobiasFunke	Oct 31st, 2006 12:19:15 PM
Now, I've never seen any of this guy's work, but I can't help but think he's the reason why movie studios are so scared to invest in the film. If Peter Jackson or James Cameron were directing, they'd be able to pick any studio they wanted. Also, I'm thinking Microsoft may be asking for too much of the film's profits. That's just me though.
With so many big movies tanking I see their point by skiff	Oct 31st, 2006 12:26:54 PM
There needs to be a new review term and it should be HARMLESS not that a film sucks or is great but that it's HARMLESS. Film geeks are getting so jaded the if a movie isn't the next empire strikes back they stay away in droves.And then there are the real anal licking no name to low bunch who ripe them off torent sites.Someone said to me the other day that record companies are making more money now than they ever were. Ya like fuck Movies are heading in the same direction. Can you believe flags of our fathers made under 20 mill in 2 weeks. Man things are fucked up
aestheticity and anyone else who doesn't know HL by Novaman5000	Oct 31st, 2006 12:28:30 PM
There are tons of characters and a big story there, The first game had 4 episodes focusing on secondary characters for Christ's sake, so don't act like it's just one guy with a gun. I love both, but this is a HALO MOVIE TALKBACK. It's not like Peter Jackson was like, oh I'm going to make a Half-Life movie OR a Halo movie, but only one of them! Halo is the only film being considered here, so SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE COMPARISONS. IT'S FUCKING MOOT.
That last part wasn't for you guys, Aestheticity, by Novaman5000	Oct 31st, 2006 12:29:49 PM
It was for all these "HALF-LIFE IS BETTER" idiots. I love half-life, probably more than Halo to be honest, but it's totally pointless to bring it up here.
I would totally see that argyle sock movie. by Novaman5000	Oct 31st, 2006 12:34:01 PM
Riveting.
I just want to see a Half-Life movie by Lovecraftfan	Oct 31st, 2006 12:43:22 PM
That's all I want.
The good, the bad, and the just plain Ugly!!! by brit3424	Oct 31st, 2006 12:59:44 PM
SO they cancel the making of what could be a really great (for once) video-game movie like Halo, but consider remaking one of the worst movies in the Genre with Street Fighter???? WHY??? The Street Fighter generation has come and gone, but Halo is one of the top selling games in a very long time. Dumb move. They would probably have a better chance at remaking Mario Bros (to Studio Execs:I'm kidding about that last one)
I'm disappointed but optimistic by Ricky Henderson	Oct 31st, 2006 01:02:42 PM
They can still fix this once Halo 3 comes out and shows the studios what the real story is. Stop saying that videogames must necessarily make for bad movies. It's not true. I think the real failing of most game-to-movie projects is that the director simply doesn't know how to capture and translate the essence of the game itself. Before any director can accomplish that, they must know why the game is great for themselves. Having some schlep shop the idea to them and then reading thru a Prima guide just isn't going to hack it from a directorial standpoint. Now look specifically at Halo: its is a game that is truly great because it entwines much more than novel or well-founded gameplay mechanics. The story and how it’s told through gameplay is more than the mere sum of its parts- or it can be. Depending upon the scope of a game, everything from art direction, level design, and the soundtrack are all important factors in crafting the mood of a game, or how it make you feel when you play. With competent direction, sufficient budget, and an honest feel for the material, I think that movie adaptations of games could be considered more than the pitiful flops we’ve unfortunately come to expect from this genre. What are they thinking? If done properly, a decent Halo movie would make a huge amount of money, and Jackson needs to convince the studios of that.
Studio cuntrape by performingmonkey	Oct 31st, 2006 01:05:19 PM
Although it's fun to laugh at fanboys.
exlusivly on windows vista by JackDonkey	Oct 31st, 2006 01:08:23 PM
Did Microsoft want Halo movie to be Windows Vista only :P
wheew! That was close. by The Ghost of Marcus Brody	Oct 31st, 2006 01:09:45 PM
We almost saw another Doom-like Hollywood shitfest. Take your time Weta, shop around and take your time. It's not your fault the studios are fucking retarted.
If the Games are making more than the movies anyway-- by Fatboy_Roberts	Oct 31st, 2006 01:24:43 PM
WHY NOT JUST KEEP IT A GAME? What can we get out of the movie that you can't get out of playing a new GAME? I don't understand why this has to be a movie in the first place if being a game is working so well.
Yar's Revenge would own you all!! by Simon Cabron	Oct 31st, 2006 01:27:00 PM
somebody get to work on this already, has Oscar written all over it!!
Eat it, fanboys - halo sucks and the movie would bomb by Dannychico	Oct 31st, 2006 01:28:03 PM
it was a terrible investment
PJ and Halo =overrated by batzilla	Oct 31st, 2006 01:34:03 PM
Seriously. PJ is a worthless piece of shit as well as Halo. PJ's KK was a joke and LOTR was average at best. Why Halo is so popular is mind boggling. I'm happy that this project got the axe. It would have been yet another over-hyped turd.
If Bungie Wanted Quality Over Profit... by ryanislyin	Oct 31st, 2006 01:34:30 PM
...they'd have let Halo remain a PC title. The first version was for the far superior home computer. It wasn't until Mr. Gates lured them away with big bucks to give the XBox legitimacy. Can't say I blame them, really. When it comes down to it, the big mistake isn't whether the studios are idiots or Peter's choice of director. The mistake is assuming any property in ANY media form can be converted to a movie. The Lord of the Rings was a perfect storm of talent, direction and financing, backed by bulletproof source material. Tell me: Does Halo OR HalfLife have either of these? 1) Neil made a pretty slick short film, but do you think it took even 1/10th the skill Peter displayed getting LOTR to market? 2) Even if they hired every multi-million dollar actor (and actress... is that PC?) available, the stories still lack character development. Sure, Peter and Fran can write well, but their major successes were a) based on previously successful material, and b) edited heavily by people that saw past their tendancies to carry on (extended editions, anybody?). 3) Finally, why would any INVESTOR (and that's what this is, people... an investment) want to put their bet on a film genre with a bad history, no source material outside of a video game, and a rookie director? You guys think Hollywood exists to entertain. It doesn't. It exists to get your money. Wake up!
If Bungie Wanted Quality Over Profit... by ryanislyin	Oct 31st, 2006 01:37:04 PM
...they'd have let Halo remain a PC title. The first version was for the far superior home computer. It wasn't until Mr. Gates lured them away with big bucks to give the XBox legitimacy. Can't say I blame them, really. When it comes down to it, the big mistake isn't whether the studios are idiots or Peter's choice of director. The mistake is assuming any property in ANY media form can be converted to a movie. The Lord of the Rings was a perfect storm of talent, direction and financing, backed by bulletproof source material. Tell me: Does Halo OR HalfLife have either of these? 1) Neil made a pretty slick short film, but do you think it took even 1/10th the skill Peter displayed getting LOTR to market? 2) Even if they hired every multi-million dollar actor (and actress... is that PC?) available, the stories still lack character development. Sure, Peter and Fran can write well, but their major successes were a) based on previously successful material, and b) edited heavily by people that saw past their tendancies to carry on (extended editions, anybody?). 3) Finally, why would any INVESTOR (and that's what this is, people... an investment) want to put their bet on a film genre with a bad history, no source material outside of a video game, and a rookie director? You guys think Hollywood exists to entertain. It doesn't. It exists to get your money. Wake up!
Double Post by ryanislyin	Oct 31st, 2006 01:37:29 PM
Sorry!
ryanislyin by blackwood	Oct 31st, 2006 01:41:23 PM
I don't think anyone is asleep. And if Hollywood's sole defining purpose is to make itself money, then it is entirely worthless - like any industry where profit comes before product or people. Sure, it's ignorant to say that money isn't important, but it's even more-so to say that quality should be a secondary concern.
Hey newclassic im from Cape Town myself . anyhoo by southafrican	Oct 31st, 2006 01:51:30 PM
i agree that the studios are being careful and clever here, besides Fox already has greenlit a mega budget science fiction epic, its called Avatar. And its to be directed by James(science fiction master) Cameron, you know someone with an impressive and (this is key)proven track record of making mega budget films that make shitloads of cash. As opposed to an (and i cant just support the man because he is a fellow South African )unproven director with a mega budget making a film in a genre with an absolutely god awful artistic and commercial track record. Cameron has stated that he is going to make Avatar and Battle Angel Alita back to back, and he plans to make both into trilogies, so Fox is already pretty heavily invested and there is the potential here for 2 amazing epic sci-fi franchises. And if youve read the sriptment to Avatar that was floating around the internet several years ago, trust me its your balls to the wall, original science fiction epic with some pretty jaw dropping action. And while Jacksons great he is only producing, and lets remembe that even Cameron, Spielburg and Lucas have all produced shit, so there really are no gaurantees. And i bet it did not help that king kong underperformed.
master kenobi by slappy jones	Oct 31st, 2006 01:56:17 PM
you seem to like blaming this all on the studios wanting to stay away from jackson...lets remember he wasn't directing this thing. In fact the thing would probably be going ahead if he was....I love how people like to use king kongs supposed failure against jackson like thats it for his career..haha yeah i mean hell his past 4 films have all made over 500 million ww...not even speilberg has four in a row that did that..shit it must be all over for him!!...did kong underperform at the BO compared to the ridiculous expectation placed upon it by the media yes...in all reality a 3 hour film about a rampaging giant ape fighting dinosaurs makes over 500 mill then no. sounds quite reasonable...look superman returns cost more and made much less so if singer can get another job i really don't think jackson is going to have a problem. I do like how a lot of guys who abuse jackson on here have names like darth something or, well, master kenobi. are you still a little sore that the prequels are possibly 3 of the most embarrassing films ever made? you think kong failed on every level..umm..have you actaully watched the prequels?? they are so bad my urine burns just thinking about them.
Universal has the money by ubersnarf	Oct 31st, 2006 02:12:17 PM
I'm shocked that no one' mentioned Universal's current $200 million budgeted movie: Evan Almighty? The highest budgeted comedy? Of course, the mad money they're spending on that might make them hesitant to dip their toes into the Halo world, but at least we know they're capable of spending that budget. They clearly just don't want to. And Microsoft can't spend the money on making a stupid movie because their shareholders would flip out. Honestly, people. If the movie gets made, it gets made via Hollywood studios. So either go see Evan Almighty so that Universal gets their $200 mil back and can make Halo, or boycott Evan Almighty because Universal wasted all that money on a stupid comedy sequel and not on your precious video game movie.
Well, Halo's only popular for one reason... by DigitalDong	Oct 31st, 2006 02:54:21 PM
It was the only game for the Xbox worth getting for a year and a half until KotOR came out. But fuck Halo, the Metal Gear Solid franchise deserves a movie more. Cast Kurt Russel as Snake and I'm there.
Halo/Microsoft/DVD/Blu-ray/HD by greengreedo	Oct 31st, 2006 02:57:52 PM
Problem: Microsoft & Universal support HD-DVD, the other studios support Blu-Ray DVD. Result: Conflict of interest in eventual method of distribution for a film in the next year or two. Dollars rule, boyo's!
Not the studios fault by Hail	Oct 31st, 2006 03:00:37 PM
microsoft and wingnut are asking for too much money. The Studios basically said that there is too much cost, and not enough profit for this to be produced. Seriously, how many time do 2 studios have to combinge their finances to fund a $150 million film? Obviously, never. Otherwise we would see two studios attached to X3, King Kong, Superman Returns, Batman, Spiderman, etc.... All of which cost way more than $150 million. Think about it.
PARAMOUNT???? by WONKABAR	Oct 31st, 2006 03:06:06 PM
Yeah, those guys are real visionary....risk-takers....LO L!
Metroid Prime= BEST GAME OF THIS GEN by Exeter	Oct 31st, 2006 03:13:30 PM
of the gc/ps2/xbox generationn, Metroid Prime is the crown jewel, at gamerankings.com it's the highest ranked. Play it
hey now anchorite by ubersnarf	Oct 31st, 2006 03:22:28 PM
A Blade 4 with Kal Penn and Jon Heder sounds pretty darn good actually! I mean, compared the Trinity anyway...
Less money doesn't mean the flick would have sucked. by lazynogoodnic	Oct 31st, 2006 03:36:20 PM
Halo's halfway decent. I'm sure it would have been a decent film, if not good. But man, studios not wanting to give them the huuuuge damn budget they demanded isn't hard to sympathize with. No movie needs as much money as the creative team seemed to believe. They could have made this flick for less, and had it made to the same quality. Exorbetant amounts of cash don't make good films, a steady directing hand does.
Phategod2 VS PharteGod by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 03:41:24 PM
Don, Don , Don don't you have anything better to do with your time I guess you caught me I dont usually post on the TB's unless its Tranformers related. you were probably stalking me weren't you. You truly are a sad excuse for a hollywood personality and guess what don seeing as how this is not siebertron I do not hav to watch what I say and dont think a little cutting and pasting will have any ramifications over there. this is AICN country you little Bitch so you suck it up first of all I read your little Tirade on the actress who didn't want to be in your suckball movie you my friend are a sad individual your low brow cromagnum moron, and you bring shame to anyone associated with the film making progress, the city you come from, America, and Human beings. Now if that is not Don Murphy and I doubt that it's not then you are one his "Stooges" which is probably the only thing lower then Don Murphy his self.
METROID PRIME NOT IMHO by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 03:46:25 PM
Wetroid prime was a great game but it had flaws 1. No real story there was no voice acting no real cutscenes just shoot everything and gain new abilities. 2. The control scheme sucked. Im going to say what i think the best game this generation was because regardless of how many awards or magazine or website countdowns its still Opinion.
The Hobbit by silent 1	Oct 31st, 2006 03:50:01 PM
The same thing happened to pete when he wanted to do a remake of king kong back in the mid 90's and instead he did Lord of the rings and made millions so this could be a sign that he may do the hobbit other then that this is fucking depressing
Metroid by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 04:07:13 PM
I agree with both exeter and Phategod2: it is all about opinion and if like me, you aren't too bothered about cutscenes or voice acting, the game is a materpiece in design and atmosphere. The absence of dual analogue control is a potential problem but it isn't really a shooter. And it's down to opinion as Phategod2 says.
You realize you can't really compare sales,right Quint? by Freakemovie	Oct 31st, 2006 04:15:22 PM
I don't know any of the numbers, but I'm plenty aware that the Halo franchise has made more money than both movies. You failed to take into account, however, that the average price of a movie in the US is still less than 8 dollars, and the Halo games cost 50-60 apiece. Who knows, maybe the movie would be met with a chrous of indifference the likes of which haven't been seen since a little gem called Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
Flip63Hole by godzillasushi	Oct 31st, 2006 04:25:10 PM
I forgive you for being a coolness-man-3000-with-super-b rain-action-skills. Are you claiming to be this all knowing game guru? I nabbed the NES when I was 5, so you cant say I havnt been around long enough. I hated Halo as well, until I actually played it. Its like some denial thing with you people. Halo one did have The Library....but there was so much more. Theres 4 books about this crap. You cant tell me its all about a spaceman shooting aliens. Halo 2 had a great storyline going until the end raped my brain. I mean there was a freaking civil war among the covenant. What exactly would it take for you to be satisfied with a storyline? Must not have been enough Seperoth and spikey pokemon to keep you attached to the screen. Only because its Halo, just this giant target for all you people to attack because its different.
hey, i was right! by dragon-lord	Oct 31st, 2006 04:25:21 PM
thanks for pointing to that IESB article...I feel so validated to have called that ball :)
And about this Metroid Prime yall wont shutup about by godzillasushi	Oct 31st, 2006 04:30:25 PM
Its actually really good and I agree with all of you. Hard to say it was better then RE4 or maybe the new Zelda, but there is no game that could create so much atmosphere like Metroid. Also a fan of the HL2 and MGS2.
"no voice acting no real cutscenes" by magic_ninja	Oct 31st, 2006 04:41:54 PM
Fucking moron, Metroid Prime wasn't supposed to be a fucking game you watched, it was a game you played. And no real story? Yeah, okay buddy. And if you thought the control sucked, then you must be horrible at video games. Keep on playing your GTA and other such games that don't need skill.
Aah RE4 by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 04:42:50 PM
There's a game I've played right through about six times since I got it. There's nothing like when you're playing the merceneries game running around to avoid being cornered and you kick open a door behind which a chainsaw wielding maniac is about to rip your head off.
Greedy. Blind. Microsoft. by msspurlock	Oct 31st, 2006 04:48:27 PM
Synonyms.
OK nintendo FANBOY alert by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:00:36 PM
I knew a fanboy would read that and flame me OK Fanboy 1st thing Metroid Prime was the ONLY reason I got a Dustcube. And I beat twice 100% the second time. and I love it but it is not perfect it did have a great atmosphere but you know what the Metroid Game on the Gameboy Advance had a better story. Reading some glyphs off a wall does not make a story. Now you honestly tell me that the atmosphere was not better in Shadow of the Colossus, or even MGS2 and I will laugh my ass off. You never get to know anything about Samus's character or the "Space pirates" So I know the fanboy will just proceed with some incoherant rant about how much Samus Rules and all I can Say is I was you 3 years ago. theres one salution to you. GET THE OTHER SYSTEMS. theres more to life then Nintendo and Nonthing they made was without flaw and guess what peon it's all Opinion.
RE4 by godzillasushi	Oct 31st, 2006 05:01:26 PM
I know, I was creeped out by those chainsaw dudes, they make you soooo nervous. So many moments stick out.
The problem isn't that you CAN'T make a great VG movie by minderbinder	Oct 31st, 2006 05:05:45 PM
It's that so far, nobody has. And until someone does, you can't really blame a studio for not wanting to sink a huge chunk of cash into that risk.
See above posts by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:09:09 PM
more proof That is in fact Don "donnie two chins" murphy. You know it's sad when a Hollywood producer has nothing better to do then mess with people online. You know Its funny how anonymous you get here on AICN but your big enough to be Don Murphy everywhere else why don't you just Get a account as Don Murphy and come out the closet. But really with all this attention you better give me a shot out on the DVD damn it. Ohh How about instead Of prime saying "do a barrell Roll" he says "Now thats what I call a Fartgod". Come on man make it happen Donnie 2 chins. But since i got you here tell me who was on that short list of directors Micheal Bay & who? Uwe Boll, W S Anderson. Donnie youre a fucking Joke as a Producer and a human being and another thing you owe me $18 For that piece of shit LOXG.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= Don Murphy an intelligent TB'er by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:11:47 PM
that was the funniest shit I've ever read. Now I know why HE calls you stooges.
Here's why most videogames are inferior movie sources: by rbatty024	Oct 31st, 2006 05:16:11 PM
in a videogame a story is secondary to gameplay. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that when you're playing a videogame, but when you actually try to tell a cohesive story then it falls apart. Furthermore, because in a videogame the story is secondary the makers have no problem ripping off movies for the atmosphere and story. In other words, most videogame storylines are just watered down version of movies. Once again, that's fine when you're playing the game, but does not work well when translated into a film. I'm sure there are some videogames that could make good movies, but they're few and far between, and I doubt any of them are first person shooters.
I agree by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 05:24:01 PM
I agree with rbatty024 for the most part: although I think a good filom can be taken from the basis of a game, it can't be directly translated from the game, and, for me, the story of a game is pretty irrelevant. If a game is good, it's the in game atmosphere, level design, control etc, story is pretty far down my list.
I agree to a extent by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:36:05 PM
I did not say the I didn't Like Metroid just that is not the best game of the last generation of consoles. The word "best" is too subjective and is one or more but alls piont of view. with that said the game suffered from Odd controls for a FPS. And to be considered best you have to strong on all fronts.
MS would never finance a movie. They're not stupid. by Orbots Commander	Oct 31st, 2006 05:45:17 PM
Imagine what large institutional funds holding Microsoft stock would think if Microsoft decided to make an entree into the decidedly crapshoot movie business. Trust me, Balmer and Microsoft do not want the headaches of the movie business. They'd rather license the Halo franchise to a studio.
How is it BSB by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:47:35 PM
long time no see bro. Murphy is stalking me. Hey Donnie I also post regularly at www.Chargerforums.com
OH yeah Donnie2C's by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:49:08 PM
I post at www.gamespot.com but I have a different Screen name look hard and you'll find me.
It's hard to choose a "best" by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 05:54:07 PM
I probably couldn't. I'd say Metroid was one of my best, being well aware that even some other gamecube fans wouldn't rate it that highly. But then again, as much as I liked the Mario and Zelda for gamecube, I'd happily concede that they weren't the strongest installments whilst others would consider this sacrilige. And many gamers would hurl abuse at me for not rating other obvious contenders for "best" like GTA or MGS. To each his own.
Phategod1=home Phategod2=work by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 05:54:56 PM
I waiting for someone to pick that up.
It's all DOOM's fault. by TheGoddamnSiege	Oct 31st, 2006 06:06:10 PM
No doubt the studios have lost all faith in first-person-shooter-based films because of that piece of garbage.
such a sad day indeed by quadrupletree	Oct 31st, 2006 06:08:07 PM
I'm surprised Newline or one of the other studios doesn't jump on this. Such a missed opportunity. Dumb dumb dumb, but then that is Fox's operational strategy.
Best FPS: System Shock. 2nd Best: Marathon by Daddylonghead	Oct 31st, 2006 06:26:11 PM
I think the alive in jo'burg guy should direct the new Street Fighter, give it a gritty real-world feel.
Halo is Dead! Happy Joy Joy! by Shub-Wankalot	Oct 31st, 2006 06:34:58 PM
Another craptacular attempt at mediocrity has been nailed to the wall. Bring out the party poppers! It's champagne time tonight!
people can get Banned on the TB's by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 06:35:24 PM
For the most part I don't participate in the discussions if it's not Transformer related or someting equally nerdy but I did not know a person could be banned here with all the colorful expletive that fly here. and I thought that every knew that BBCB=BSB I said wussup to him in his new form and that was the first time I had ever addressed him with his new moniker but thats niether here nor there I'm just glad I dont have to suffer a video game movie although I did like Silent Hill. I thought it did a grea tjob of capturing the feel of the game.
Bad news? It's a fucking video game by the_pissboy1	Oct 31st, 2006 06:37:26 PM
Is there such a thing as a good video game-based movie? No. So why are people sad that a crappy movie isn't being made out of a crappy FPS video game? Grow up, people.
magic ninja, metroid prime controls are lacking by Krigan	Oct 31st, 2006 06:46:02 PM
Sorry its true. A good game yes but controls are weak. It needed custom controls and a proper way to strafe. Being a single player game the controls were ok but if it was multiplayer I would be very irritated. The sequel had multiplayer and i have'nt played it yet so hopefully they fixed problems and added in custom setups.
Microsoft Are You Retarded? FINANCE IT YOURSELF! by The Ender	Oct 31st, 2006 07:13:30 PM
This movie is Guarunteed Box Office Gold! WTF? Microsoft wake up and do it yourselves, Jesus!
Metroid Multiplayer is crap by pandamaster83	Oct 31st, 2006 07:15:23 PM
I think they ditched it in the upcoming corruption, because it was a waste of time. As I said, it isn't a shooter and as such isn't a good deathmatch game. It's hard to strafe because you have to hold two buttons (aiming isn't really an issue because you lock onto enemies zelda-style). It took me a while to get used to the controls of my first dual analogue FPS, but now that I've picked it up, it is the preferable method for aiming in the absence of a mouse keyboard setup (which I haven't tried much). If Metroid was a shooter, the issue would be much bigger, but it's a bit like Zelda not having a jump button.: zelda isn't a platformer so it's no big deal.
bad news? seems like good news... by Rupee88	Oct 31st, 2006 07:26:01 PM
One less bad film to be made. Maybe someone will come up with something original for a change? Nope? Well, it's still no great, or even small, loss.
bad news? seems like good news... by Rupee88	Oct 31st, 2006 07:26:05 PM
One less bad film to be made. Maybe someone will come up with something original for a change? Nope? Well, it's still no great, or even small, loss.
Oh well. by OhDaesu	Oct 31st, 2006 07:29:56 PM
The world could do without another horrible video game adaptation. Video game movies are cursed.
I would be down with an Unreal adaptation. by 'Cholera's Ghost	Oct 31st, 2006 08:07:44 PM
IMO, a couple of creative gymnastics to fill out the story could make that a good movie. Call it an escaped-prisoner-leads-Na Pali-resistance-movement-by-tu rning-a-team of-creatures-from-the Skaarj-mercenary-races-against -them-and-learning-Na Pali shaman voodoo epic. Or even "Aliens--with prettier scenery."
Do you realise how much of a ASS you sound like by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 08:13:23 PM
What in the hell Has Don Murphy Don to earn the right of being a fan of his. 1st and foremost he's a Producer which makes him a stooge in his own right 2. The movies he produced were utter shite. Apt pupil, Double Dragon, LOXG. the only thing worth while he's done was Natural Born Killers and ask yourself why he doesn't have the Cajonese to Direct, because he has no talent so tell me Why are you such a Don Murphy fan? What has he accomplished with his life that you would like to be know as his Bitch?, I mean stooge. I you must really love the taste of his cock ooops I mean his taste in movies. But what about a fat fugly little foul mouth Hollywood wannabe attracts you to him? Because At least Brett Ratner has better things to do with his time then Get online and berate fans, Hell he gets Hot Model poon with his second chin. Mean while Donnie Is Perfecting his "comic book guy" look crouched around his PC as Micheal Bay destroys His movie, and Donnie Ruins his own Career By attacking Actresses who probably forgot who he is or never knew after they decided not to be in his crapfest of a movie. Apt pupil. Also there is you, you douche you have nothing better to do then track me down and give tip-for-tap not really making a pioint I have said nothing about Transformers or Micheal Bay Your screen name it self was your way of baiting me. Your clearly either Murphy or one of his "stooges" a.k.a. cum stains. But my question is if your a stain I mean stooge Why?
SPIDER-MAN 3 just moved up a spot on my must-see list. by JDanielP	Oct 31st, 2006 08:24:58 PM
Hollywood dumbasses. I hate'em. --and IRON-MAN didn't move up the list any, 'cause it ain't on THE DAMN LIST.
Name One by hallmitchell	Oct 31st, 2006 08:37:13 PM
Computer game movie that has made money. You don't have to name two. Name one.
Remember when... by mikepena	Oct 31st, 2006 08:50:34 PM
I remember when movies spawned TV shows and video games and not the other way around. But then again, in the past, moviemakes used to read books and watch classic movies and use them as inspiration. Now, the moviemakers are remaking classic films and turning the video games into films. What will the next generation of filmmakers use as inspiration? Remake the remakes? Make movies based upon the videogame that was based upon the movie that was originally a videogame? How much more CAN we dilute pop culture? In the past, most pop culture was loaded with inspiration from classic novels, anicent mythologies, classic films. Now we get pop culture that was inpsired by pop culture. What is going to be left?
Comic Book movies suck ass and they keep getting made. by Optimus Murphy	Oct 31st, 2006 08:58:11 PM
With a few notable exceptions of course. Those being the ones that stayed at least within visual range of the source material, and had a talented director at the helm. I can count them on one hand if I include Donner's Superman, and Burton's Batman. Compare that to Elektra, Barb Wire, Daredevil, Hulk, 1-2-or 3 X-men films depending on who you ask, Fantastic Four, Hellboy, Judge Dredd, The Phantom, Catwoman, Blade, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Punisher...etc. Video games have as shitty a track record, and like comic books not all of them translate well to film, but more importantly not all of them are given any real effort to begin with. Hollywood's on a comic-book kick right now because a few gems came out the shit pile and made some money. The executive toolboxes at the studios are more likely to loosen their sphincters and shell out money for comic-book films nowadays because they've proven the ability to reach past the original fanbase. Video games movies can go the same route if the people funding and making them provide all the necessities for sucess.
well your first post was alot more coherant then by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 08:59:45 PM
Your last. You still didnt answer the question? And Your talking about the way I look what are you 12 Your jusdging looks of someone You've never seen and defending the looks of a grown man who you say is not you your either a Dumbass or a Fag with all respect to Homosexuals I guessing your a dumbass, Homosexual have a better vocabulary and better taste in Producers. Again why do you defend such a dickhead I guess dicks run in a pack. I take your bait cause I have nothing particularly better to do with my time. I Can think of 10,000 things I'd rather be called then Don Murphy's stooge you my friend are leech with no fucking life get a girl friend, get a blow job, get a gun and blow your head off. do the world a favor and take Donnie 2 chins with you, Oh I forgot your a fucking lemming, you have to follow him. I don't know how in the hell you think your better then me maybe you make $130,000+ a year and you take a 13' cock I mean have a 13' cock but the one thing I have is a free mind and I have ability to decide when a piece o' shit is a piece o' shit whether or not, I like the Directors ability or personality. And speaking of pieces of shit Don Murphy has been on a web site or two berating anyone who has simple valid question about the Upcoming Summer Movie that will go unamed till the next "LEAK" that finds its way here. Also speaking OF pieces of Shit Who are you really?, are you Donnie 2 chins? your style of writing Screams Dogboy Donnie of short sentences with even shorter thought put into them the way you refer to the site as Ainitshit also a term that Murphy coined, that plus AINTITSHOT who I believe is also you was the first to call me fartgod. So Why dont you come out from behind your rock and announce who you are. Donnie.
GOOD! This movie would have sucked. by Spice-Orange	Oct 31st, 2006 09:18:22 PM
You all know that no matter how much was going for this movie, all you little babies would still have problems with it just like EVERY video game or comic book movie. We don't need a Halo movie. the game is a movie enough.
OMG, a Half-Life movie makes no sense, shut up. by SilentP	Oct 31st, 2006 09:25:10 PM
Seriously, what the hell are you people talking about? Have you even played the games? They're designed to be interactive experiences. That's the whole point. The story is only original and unique because it's told in such a passive manner - something that hasn't really been done anywhere else, and that wouldn't translate well into a movie at all. The only way a Half-Life movie might work would be if it didn't involve Gordon Freeman at all, but was instead a side-story that served to flesh out the HL universe and maybe change the way people view the events of HL1 and/or 2 (and/or 3, even, if such a game is ever made) in some dramatic way. But would anyone actually really care to see that? I have no idea. But I do know a direct adaptation of the events of HL1 and 2 would suck ass. Either it would stay true to the games, and wind up incredibly vague and boring, or it would be totally different from the games, defeating the whole purpose of making the films in the first place. Also, on topic, Halo would make a decent movie, but honestly, Halo 2 is where it's at (story-wise). The first game's story was not very good, honestly.
Honestly Im still waiting for a MGS movie by Phategod2	Oct 31st, 2006 09:44:00 PM
starring Keifer sutherland get your "Snake Bauer" ready.
Slappy Jones by MasterKenobi	Oct 31st, 2006 09:59:07 PM
No I´m not a Star Wars fan. The reason I chose Kenobi was just to enrage Peter Jackson ass lickers like you. The prequels were crap and Kong was crap because Jackson did like Lucas and put all his effort on the visuals, which turned out to be stunning especially Kong himself, but he forgot the story. Jimmy and the others reminded me actually of the bad acting in Star Wars. It was unbearable to behold otherwise good actors perfoming so badly, exactly as it was an agony to see Ewan Mcgregor play Obi wan, and making lame jokes or whatever they were supposed to be, like telling Palpatine, "Sith-lords are our speciality" before facing Dooku. WTF was that lame reply anyway. It´s called bad writing and bad directing. The same thing that Jackson did with Kong. I didn´t like Kong nor Star Wars, and the less Jackson meddles with the Halo script the better.
Who cares??? It would've sucked anyway! by Rogue_Leader	Oct 31st, 2006 11:27:54 PM
Looked Halo was very good as a game, but as a movie it would've been a joke. You can't have a great movie without a great story and Halo's story was appaling even by first person shooter standards. To take that story and make it into a movie would've been a laughing stock.
Ha, Ha, Ha! No Halo. X-Box Sucks!! by JarJar25	Oct 31st, 2006 11:44:13 PM
Yes, the studios were smart! What we need is another Final Fantasy film like Advent Children. A film version of FF8 would be great. Let's hope Jackson and company make a real film like the Hobbit.
Now we have a sony Fanboy by Phategod1	Nov 1st, 2006 01:29:40 AM
can you just buy all three systems and call it a night.
MetalWater you have finally lost your mind by NachoNegro	Nov 1st, 2006 01:33:33 AM
Do you really believe, really, that even if it tanks Halo will make half a billion after DVD SALES?? Are you utterly mental? Seriously, are you completely deranged? King Kong made about $280m domestic, and we all know what LOTR made. Fine. But Jackson is not directing. Doom made $30m domestic - that is the yardstick studio execs will use. They are looking at a type of film that makes no money traditionally (name me a video game adaption that made huge numbers?). And yes I understand that a lot of films do well with unproven directors. Fine. And yes, New Line gave Jackson 500m to make LOTR. And yes, sometimes unusual films become huge hits - i.e. POTC. But these guys are in the business of making money with minimal risk, and a video game adaption with an untested director for $250m doesn't fit that bill.
We waited for Spiderman by tHEmOOG	Nov 1st, 2006 02:25:35 AM
Look how they're turning out. Maybe waiting is a good thing.
You know what this means... by Ravetin	Nov 1st, 2006 03:22:01 AM
By the time this movie comes back into play, Michael Bay won't have anything on his plate. I hope you're all prepared to see Ben Affleck as Master Chief. Imagine how awesome Bay's Tang-colored cinematography will look with MC's green armor.
An Attempt at a Summary... by Pawprint	Nov 1st, 2006 04:05:49 AM
I have actually read all the posts in this TB, and my observations are as follows: When talking about games it is important to seperate the game you PLAY from the Manual/Cinematic Back Story/Expanded Universe stuff and the cutsecenes. GAMES are interactive which is why they generally fail as films. Doom failed as a film because as a GAME (the bit you play) there is little to no story; the filmmakers had to come up with a fleshed out story to make the film potentially interesting as a FILM. If they had been true to the GAME, then the film would have been 90 minutes of the FPS scene we see in the film; which while being a highlight of an otherwise dull film, would have been UTTER disaster if that had been the whole film. Some lunatic in this TB said (basically) that HALO would be a better film than HL2 because HALO has a brilliant story, and HL2 is just running around shooting. What utter shite. Neither of the two would make a good film. From the point of view of the GAME; HL2 would basically be 90 minutes of someone running around solving logic and physics puzzles, shooting the occasional zombie, driving through a few obstacle courses in a variety of vehicles, then listening to someone spout loads of exposition, before repeating the process again. HALO would be a nightmare of generic sci-fi space marines shooting laughable, garishly coloured aliens in garishly coloured landscapes. To make the films interesting, the producers would have to mine the back stories/EU/Cut-scenes - ie; the bit you DON'T ACTUALLY PLAY - and flesh them out. The problem you then have is the fanboys crying that the end product doesn't resemble the bit you actually PLAY. It's all a bit of a catch 22 situation - "Damned if you do; damned if you don't". An interactive experience like a game does not lend itself to portrayal as a film. And as for the clown who suggested somewhere that HALO would make a good film because of the music, the battles and (WTF?!) the way the sun flares - If that's all you need to be happy, I suggest you go and smoke a fat one and watch the Wizard of Oz while listening to Dark Side of the Moon - that should satisfy your particular requirements for 'a good film'.
Real Reasons M$ Can't Finance The Movie by Dwarf Sidious	Nov 1st, 2006 07:19:08 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not just a question of money, but of distribution. Much like bands have to sell through Ticketmaster thanks to existing infrastructure, so too do filmmakers have to deal with studios to get wide in-theater distribution. In fact, I bet there's an element of this playing into why digital distribution hasn't hit theaters yet--it would let indie producers play on a level field with the studios as far as distribution, since it wouldn't require outlay for thousands of prints (assuming the distro fees wouldn't be artificially high anyway, which is probably a naive assumption; also, I know that piracy is part of that argument, albeit a specious one). Not to mention that theater chains dealing directly w/M$ would piss off the studios, which they can't do for fear of being excluded from future product. Does anyone know if these are valid reasons, and/or if there are others why M$ can't finance the movie itself?
Halo is gay by arghhhhhhhh	Nov 1st, 2006 07:37:05 AM
Halo is gay
Oy vey... by lazynogoodnic	Nov 1st, 2006 08:30:15 AM
godzillasushi, and any one else who seems to think like him: Halo is a decent game. The story line has been, at best, entertaining. I'm sure it'd make a decent movie, but what's the point? Play the videogame and let film companies put their budgets to (hopefully) better use--especially one the size that Jackson, Blomkamp, and WETA assured us it HAD to be. As for "Halo being a target because it's something different"...No, it really isn't--different, I mean. It's just like every FPS, which isn't a bad thing, but there is nothing in the game (outside of this supposedly groundbreaking story line) that set it apart from any other FPS--hell, from any other game--on the market. I'm not saying the movie would have sucked. I'm just saying that it's retarded to lament the loss of the screen version. Moreover, I'm annoyed with people complaining that the movie would have been bad if it hadn't cost over 200 million bucks. The filmmakers didn't NEED that budget--they merely think they deserve it because of the last few films they've made so impressively well. But that's a lot of cash, especially for a project with a novice to feature film directing. The decision makes practical business sense, so please stop crying and wait for the flick to get picked up a few years down the road. We know it'll happen eventually.
Opeth's dirge for november by Communist	Nov 1st, 2006 09:15:18 AM
Within the words of Opeths "Dirge for November" I feel they have quite accuratly described the feelings of so many of us on this mournfull occasion. "Lost, here is nowhere Searching home still Turning past me, all are gone Time is now The omen showed, took me away Preparations are done, this can't last The mere reflection brought disgust No ordeal to conquer, this firm slit It sheds upon the floor, dripping into a pool Grant me sleep, take me under Like the wings of a dove, folding around I fade into this tender care"
MetalWater Episode 3 : The rebuttal by NachoNegro	Nov 1st, 2006 09:34:29 AM
So lets have a look at those examples. The budget for The Matrix was $60m, not 85 - and as you say, Joel Silver was the man that got the picture made. Jaws had a budget of $12m - small even in 1975. Got any more? I've got one - what about Christopher Nolan on Batman Begins? That's a better example. But you seem to be missing the point. I am not saying it NEVER happens. Of course it does. I'm saying that studios look to minimize risk. That's why a studio is more likely to give Cameron $250m for Avatar then they are to give you $100 to film yourself walking down the shops. Because Cameron is more likely to be able to show a return. Secondly, Bill Gates is worth 50 billion dollars at the moment - and the vast majority of that is in Microsoft shares. But Bill gates did not get to that point by making questionable business decisions. His company knows nothing about film-making, they have no expertise. In time this will change, I have no doubt. But right now, they are not going to piss $250m down the swanny on a venture when they're just stumbling around in the dark. Check and mate my good sir =P
arghhhhhhhh is gay by NachoNegro	Nov 1st, 2006 09:36:49 AM
By the way, arghhhhhhhh is gay. And that is all.
shouldn't you guys be pissed at PJ and not the studios? by mikey mike	Nov 1st, 2006 09:43:31 AM
all they wanted was for him to lower his asking price and his share of the profits. the man was asking for a lot of money and since he wasn't directing it didn't make sense to allow him to walk away with so much money. I think the anger should directed at him and his greed and not the studio for wanting to spend their money with people that didn't want a lion share of the movie's profits
This was a smart move. by Darksider	Nov 1st, 2006 09:55:24 AM
Look, spending a shitload of money on a film for people who like a video game and if you're lucky some scifi/action buffs is a gamble. It's like comic book films. You have a specific, rabid fan base that want everything perfect but when the films are finally made, the same fans don't see the fucking films. What probably would have happened is the expensive ass movie would bomb, the suits would question Halo's popularity and possibly stall or kill the franchise altogether. I agree with Zombiesolutions. Why not make a better game instead? I wouldn't mind a Diablo film but I'd rather have Diablo 3.
How about adapting something that really deserves it. by Darksider	Nov 1st, 2006 09:58:37 AM
Like, The Hobbit.
Maybe I'm more of a conspiracy theorist here... by herr_howard	Nov 1st, 2006 10:29:00 AM
But it would make sense to me that perhaps some of what's being produced is so mind-blowing to the folks at Microsoft, they're the ones holding the movie back until they can develop a game that will line up with the movie. Unless I'm mistaken, don't Fox and Universal both have their hooks into game-making companies as well? Anyway, just a thought. I don't have any skin in the whole 'Halo sucks/doesn't suck' argument.
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 10:35:13 AM
Hey BSB, check out what your buddy said. Quote: "I thought that every knew that BBCB=BSB I said wussup to him in his new form and that was the first time I had ever addressed him with his new moniker".
Hey BSB... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 10:37:24 AM
Can you feel the ownage that's coming your way? I knew that you could.
And only BSB would try to steal... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 10:40:05 AM
... Phategod1's limelight by jumping on the "I want to troll Don Murphy, too!" train. What a donkey.
Bravo, Communist... by 'Cholera's Ghost	Nov 1st, 2006 11:17:19 AM
[claps feebly, making no effort to wipe the tear that trickles down face]
fair enough master kenobi by slappy jones	Nov 1st, 2006 01:26:09 PM
at least we agree on the prequels....I should stop being a geek and let it go but i am still enraged about them. however I fucking loved kong. Never really got into LOTR though....for me kong was so gloriously over the top i couldn't help but love it.
We need a new way to finance films by dogu4	Nov 1st, 2006 01:37:02 PM
Y'know it would be great if we could somehow pull and end run around the system. I for one would be happy to pay for a ticket NOW if it would mean the film-makers wouldn't havent to appeal to the limited tastes and intellects of the people who finance the films. Once upon a time it was how some artists with vision could enlist the support of their audience. I am referring to James Audobon, but who wouldn't send Peter Jackson or Terry Gilliam a micro investment right now for the priveledge of seeing their visions on the screen.
Come on, folks. by lazynogoodnic	Nov 1st, 2006 01:41:19 PM
Ya know that this hunk of garbage will get made some day. Will it be a spectacle? Sure! That's all it could possibly be. So take a breather, and wait it out. Eventually some one will come along who can make the exact same film Jackson and WETA wanted to make, but for a hell of a lot less. Then, after that film returns a decent profit (something the current one could not do, and of that I am certain), a Halo 2 will come out. Then you can all rejoice. But for now, enjoy Halo as it was meant to be enjoyed: Play it.
whetheror not your murphy by Phategod1	Nov 1st, 2006 01:56:32 PM
YOUR STILL AND ASSHOLE! PLAIN AND SIMPLE. YOUR A FUCKING STOOGE WITH NO LIFE. THATS A FACT.
Halo: Yet another Doom, Wolfenstein, Metroid Prime... by W3bzpinn3r	Nov 1st, 2006 02:41:26 PM
What's the big deal? it sucks.
Wow you made you point didnt you by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 02:56:53 PM
You want facts here are Facts while you Try to personaly attack me the truth is you nothing about me. Everything I have said about Save for general assumptions about your sexual preference and true Identity Have been true. You want to know who I am. I'm a simple IRS employee with Internet access. a Fan of Sci-fi and a few other nerdy things I hold no allegiance to any producer Hack or other wise. And I will never consider my self a stooge of any MAN. the truth about you is either one of two things You a Lonely SOB with No family, No Girlfriend, No Children, No Life, And the Highlight of your day is type a few angry words at a person who has the audacity to hate your "Favorite Producers". Or you are said producer who is so scared that I or/and everyone who hates what your doing to transformers that we would save this entire page and your other post as AINTITSHOT and send to Mr. Bay, and Spielberg Who I can Garuntee has no idea what your doing. Oh and MNG Murphy or who ever the hell This TOOL is started this with the STOOGE Username.
Phategod by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 03:02:59 PM
Hey, I have NOTHING to do with ol' Donny Murphy. I'm on your side when it comes to that assbag. *** However, could you clear something up for us: you are both Phategod1 and Phategod2, right? There are so many variations of your name on this thread, it's hard to keep track. Hope to see you in the next "Transformers" TB. Carry on.
Correction: YOUR by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 03:04:30 PM
before Murphy has a oppertunity. and Government Computers dont have spell checker.
Phategod1 = me at home Phategod2 = me at work by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 03:08:53 PM
Phartegod=Don Murphy's colastamy (Spelling subject to correction) Bag.
Phategod 1 & 2 by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 03:08:57 PM
Thanks.
Still with the MS-movie- financing meme? Oh boy. by Orbots Commander	Nov 1st, 2006 04:06:35 PM
Apparently some do not understand the concept of a publicly held corporation. Company X, to use an example, is traded publicly on the NYSE or NASDAQ. They are a highly held stock due to their dependability in revenue stream and market growth. Company X is limited in some of their options in regards to taking certain courses of action due to shareholder demands and expectations. Microsoft Corporation is in the software business. If I owned, in my 401K or pension fund, a large quantity of Microsoft stock and the next day I read that Steve Ballmer decided to make a foray into the film production and distribution business I would inform my broker to dump MS stock ASAP. Because Microsoft is not a movie studio. They are a successful software company and will stay that way unless they want to lose billions of dollars in valuation. So to recap, Microsoft will never, ever, maybe only when pigs fly, fully finance AND distribute a major motion picture.
Well They (Microsoft) Finance Viva Pinata by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 04:17:18 PM
and look at how great that is.
In addition, look what happens when companies by Orbots Commander	Nov 1st, 2006 04:31:48 PM
stray from their core competencies and veer off in unrelated directions. Example: Sony. Sony went and bought Columbia/Tri-Star Pictures. They sank billions into the entertainment business. As a result, they took their eyes off the ball in the consumer electronics area and Apple and Samsung are eating Sony's lunch. Samsung is the leading flat panel television maker and Apple has the leading personal music player. The lesson for the day: in business, it is smart to stick to your knitting and do what you do best.
But what about the Playstation and Spiderman by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 04:43:41 PM
I would tend to agree for the most part from a Business standpoint The company will always Bleed before they see a profit, But the Consumer will reep some of the benefits from a fledgling Venture. Look at the X-Box MS lost crazy money but it was a great system And I play it more then my DustCube.I think to be successful you have to take a risk, Nintendo has stuck to its knitting and in the last generation Of consoles came in distant third. Sony Came and ate Nintendo's lunch not because Nintendo Was trying something new but sony tried a new approach to gaming; So whose to say if sony had stuck to making Portable Music devices Apple still would have kicked there butts.
The X-Box and Microsoft analogy doesn't work. by Orbots Commander	Nov 1st, 2006 05:19:07 PM
Here's the reason: video games are essentially software, an arguable extension of Microsoft's business. Microsoft contracts out the actual manufacturing of the X-Box to little known third party firms in Asia. Microsoft's interest is strictly in the future sales of games. Sony's foray into videogames with the Playstation is perfectly compatible with their business model. Where Microsoft's interest was in producing games, Sony's interest was in manufacturing the leading video game console, which still keeps Sony in the consumer electronics field. You want a good analogy, here's one: Time Warner and AOL. The acquisition of AOL proved to be a huge blunder as owning and operating an internet portal was outside the purview of TW's business model of publishing, cable companies and entertainment (movie studios and music distribution).
Que Sara Sara by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 05:29:20 PM
Lets just hope this movie stays in the can. Like I said the only Video Game Movie I'd pay to see is MGS.
BSB, you are an idiot of majestic proportion. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 07:11:50 PM
MY QUESTION WAS POSED TO PHATEGOD WHO IS BOTH 1 AND 2. THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME.
Dont give him credit for standing up for Micheal J Fox by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 07:50:11 PM
I didnt read the entire thread just what the internet news has said about his post. That was not a attempt to defend Micheal J. Fox it was his attempt to bash an actress Who turned down a role in Apt Pupil, and wrote a letter to the studio about how the movie should not have been made 2/3 of his tirade is about her not Limbaugh. Our Good Buddy KNEON sent me a couple links. Don is 100% Tool. As for the colostomy bag maybe you can not understand me because your illiterate. I mean you are a fan of Don Murphy And you still havn't given me a reason why. I'm Assuming He's a family member or you Owe him money. Maybe your attracted to guys who looks like Bruce Vilanch. Maybe You Starred in Double Dragon. Heres a clue Murphy Does not like, or love you. He will never spend any money or time, short of a few keystrokes praising you for coming here and "Pwning me" tell me something about youself you wanna shut me up or put me in my place tell me what the hell you do for a living tell me You actually have a job, and Im talking to the Douche Who was Probably AINTITSHOT. to answer you question BSB I work from 3:00 pm To 1:30AM EST. I wonder mr AINTITSHOT are you the guy who posted that weak thread at "The Other website " that tried to get me banned, didnt work and your whole purpose for being in this thread is suspect. You started your first post about some incoherant garbage as to Why AICN hates don murphy yet no staff members have attacked Don or Micheal Bay and with all the piss poor concept art and renders they've had room to attack everyone associated with this project. The Problem Don Murphy has with AICN is that the TB are not run like the Gestapo. We run around Unchecked spouting our venom about How much Transformers suck but If he had a ounce of prefesionalism He'd take it with a grain of salt the same way Micheal Bay and Steven Speilberg have because at the end of the day Those two individuals will have more money, and hotter women then I. Mr. Murphy on the other hand is a tool who has nothing in his life but too much time. I can say how much I hate Micheal Bay Do you honestly think he cares. I Respect speilberg but everything he touches is not gold. You MR. Ainitshot who's made it your life mission to defend the honor of Micheal Moore's stunt double. You've contributed nothing constructive to this TB you've said nothing about Halo and you my friend have no Fucking life. BSB if i've missed something let me know. And honestly I don't think this guy is Donnie 2C's because honestly he writes a little better. But he is suspect. The whole Ducking questions thing snide remarks that have nothing to do with the argument that does seem like Murphy to me, so on the off chance you are Donnie I say this "GO TO FUCKING WORK" you have a movie to make, make it Bitch. You really wanna shut me up go make the fucking, bomb ass movie and stay off the internet I see where your work ethic is no wonder LOXG sucked so hard. that reminds me where is my $18 you chode.
Phategod2 by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 08:17:31 PM
For BringingSexyBack's edification, can you please somehow confirm AGAIN that you are both Phategod1 and Phategod2? I believe he is looking for a post from you as Phategod1. My apologies for the inconvenience. Thanks.
BSB - you're flailing kid. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 1st, 2006 08:20:18 PM
And your purile insults are beneath even you.
By The Power Of greyskull I command you 2 to Kiss by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 08:39:23 PM
and make up there only one fued on this TB sidebar-- there's two fueds going on in this TalkBack and neither one have anything to do with a Halo Movie--back to the point MNG we all agree that Don murphy is a a--hole That one thing the 3 of us can attest to. BSB like is said be for Phategod1= Me at home Phategod2= me at work. I dont participate in every TB but MNG made me think for a second that you were not BBC I loved your FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= post's and I just assumed you were the same person as BBC, just with a better sceen name. I've been using this screen name/gamertag for close to 10 years I kind of like it. So BSB if your not BBC or you do not wish to be associated with BBC I am truly sorry but I call both you BSB, BBC, and MNG friend, so wish we all could bury the hatchett.....in the back of Don Murphy.
oh this is not the first time in case you missed it by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 09:17:26 PM
About two months ago Kneon told us of Don ranting on his site so I looked at a thread he had over there where he refers to this site as AINTISHIT then out of nowhere some names AINTITSHOT shows up spouting counter venom next day siebertron.com has a Q & A with Don Murphy. Now Unbeknownst to most of the people Don was not schedule to be there these where questions that where going to be asked in a interview later that week. But Don Showed up to answer a few question Now Siebertron.com has Great Moderators who not let open ended bashing of any type take place ANd it was my first time Joining there forum. there one Poster Who's name I wil protect lets call him Panicbug asked a simple question I forget the specifics but the educated resposne from Don was "Thats not your real" Then I entered the fray and for some odd reason Don who Said he never visits this site cut and pasted A rant I gave about him Micheal bay and his choice in directors and overall talent. Then He went on Tirade about how Siebertron said one staff member was going to conduct the interview and now someone else is going to handle it and in the end Says he got kicked off the site but he probably just got a warning It was awesome. I sent a PM to The owner of site for the way he handled Murphy. I love that Site There a great buch of guys and Mods are not as Heavy Handed in other forums.
"That's not your real name" by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 09:20:35 PM
that was murphy's response.
Prolouge by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 09:32:55 PM
Since then I post regularly at Siebertron.com on various topics from the voice of Ironhide to the disgusting Rush Limbaugh I was partaking in a fan film with Fellow Talkbacker nonsensical and I actually corresponded with Corey Burton the Voice of Spike and Shockwave. but nonsensical is very sick and had to have a operation putting the project on t he shelf indefinately. Don Showed Up on Siebertron one more time to spout venom against me personally and one his stooges created thread pleading for my account to be cancelled but. end the end though NO intelligent person on Earth or siebertron will kiss murphy's ass.
What is called by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 09:38:02 PM
when you take over a forum and totally change the Topic is Hijacking cause damned If we didn't do that here There goes 2 days of productivity for me.
You should play it, by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 09:57:39 PM
Its specatularly Mediocre.
Im doing three things at once by Phategod2	Nov 1st, 2006 10:16:13 PM
I type real fast here dont get time to proof read, also type reports for T/P,s I mean tax payers so that where most of my attention is from 4:00pm to 1:30am from then on it a combo of not caring and fatigue. That and Government Computers dont have spellchecker.
RE: "bury the hatchett.....in the back of Don Murphy." by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 2nd, 2006 12:01:42 AM
Ha! Nice one, Phategod. And don't worry about ol' BSB. He's just trolling for love like Mark Foley. I guess when you take a beating as bad as he did the other day, you look for love wherever you can find it. But I give him credit; he's tenacious. And you've got to admire him for that. I think the kid is gonna be OK.
MetalWater IV : - The Gayness Continues by NachoNegro	Nov 2nd, 2006 01:42:07 AM
OK I give up - since the conversation seems to have degenerated into 'it was 60m', 'no it wasn't it was 85m'. The reality of the situation is that if you were Bill Gates, you would be lying face down in the gutter in a pool of your own vomit, urine, and fecal matter right now. Why? Because all your money would be gone from bad investments, and consequently you would spend your days stumbling around a shopping mall drunkenly, leering at 14 yo girls (who run off quickly in horror) and getting thrown out of Fast food joints at 2am. You know this to be the case.
LOL A fucking student Hilarious by Phategod1	Nov 2nd, 2006 02:21:42 AM
Dude you just fucking lost you've proven to all of us how much of a colostomy bag you really are. God what is your major being a Dick Head. Do you play on the football team no wait your on your PC let me guess your a Graphic arts Major And wish to get in the Video game business AINTITSHOT your a moron are you sure your not a senior in high school instead of checking spelling why don't look at how stupid and idiotic your post are. I just amazed at how much time I'm taking away from your World of Warcraft Level 64 Elf. but thats besides the point I'm done arguing with a fucking student you know maybe telling me about yourself was a mistake because I refuse to argue with a Kid. So fuck off, or not I don't care anymore I'm ignoring you now.PEACE BRO.
did anyone see Lost that was great by Phategod1	Nov 2nd, 2006 03:24:00 AM
I think I'll go post over there Goodnight MGS, BSB, And Yack stay the man bro. Oh and does anyone have codes for the game Saints Row.
Saints Row by NachoNegro	Nov 2nd, 2006 05:51:23 AM
I know some codes. When you enter your name, simply put "I am a cheating slag who can't be bothered to actually play the game properly". That should do it.
You know, Slappy Jones by MasterKenobi	Nov 2nd, 2006 06:43:36 AM
The worst thing in Kong wasn´t the over the top action which I quite liked. It was it´s running time, bad choice of actors, the dialogue and supporting roles that were totally crap. Kong was a simple story that Jackson and co screwed up. So when a discussion about a new Jackson project comes up, I´d like to mention those things. If Kong had made more money (it really did underperform if you check out all the facts), the studios would have given Jackson almost anything he wanted for Halo.
Now you're starting to sound like a broken record, BSB. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Nov 2nd, 2006 09:07:38 AM
The idea that he thought" you were BBCB proves my point: I'm not the only one who thought* (and some still think) that you're BBCB. See? Simple really. Why this particular detail about this whole Flame War escapes your tired, ignorant, feeble mind is a mystery to me. It's almost as mysterious as your fascination with all things gay, hairy, and indiscrete. I mean, if you want me to fuck you BSB, I will. I mean, it's like Yackbacker said: it is the 21st Century!
Sweet, Van Helsing II is being made! by Ricky Henderson	Nov 2nd, 2006 12:59:48 PM
Fan freaking tastic.
Missed this when it "broke..." by Childe Roland	Nov 2nd, 2006 01:39:43 PM
...although I saw it coming two weeks ago. Looks like I was right about them not having a story they could convince the studio would make a good movie. As Petey J. Himself said in that quote someone posted above: The story and the characters are what make a successful film. You can['t just go into a meeting and say: "Dude, it's HALO! It rocks!" and expect the studio to trip over itself pulling out its wallet. Especially in the post Doom movie world. I've got to admire that PJ actually comes out and admits they aren't in any position to deliver the goods. Speaks well of his integrity as an artist. Now get on that Hobbit movie, PJ.
Castlevania could be great by Phategod2	Nov 2nd, 2006 02:51:42 PM
As long as it doesn't turn into Monster squad with adults. As for cheating I only do it once I've beat the game. 3 years ago there was talk of John Woo directing a Metroid movie that would be hot.
Just give me my Metal Gear movie... by Ricky Henderson	Nov 2nd, 2006 03:15:56 PM
Is that too much to ask? It's practially completely made already. Just edit all the game's cut scenes together, put them on one DVD, and sell it. I'd buy that.
what about that other racist who pops up by Phategod2	Nov 2nd, 2006 04:52:30 PM
from time to time I forgot his Username but he post some KKK shit here too. But on to other things I would love to see a live action MGS movie Like i said earlier give me Kiefer as Snake Bauer!
What's up Blomkamp? by hedetoft	Nov 6th, 2006 05:20:11 AM
Damn! I was really interested in what Blomkamp could do with a decent budget and some great talent (Jackson and Weta) around him. Some may call you way to inexperienced to do a big movie Blomkamp - I call you the new breed of movie directors. I say - experience is important, but creativity, passion and wild ideas are essential. We both now that you don't end with this movie - so what's up for you instead? André Hedetoft Geek Movie Director Join my Fan Club so that I get to make my next movie over at http://www.andrehedetoft.com

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