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George Lucas hates movies! Or is that story just being blown out of proportion?

First? by JimmyCrackWhoreAndIDontCare	Oct 5th, 2006 01:59:10 PM
I love Uncle George. He's always good for a laugh.
"Star Wars" could make a cool TV show. by Captain Mal	Oct 5th, 2006 02:01:48 PM
As long as it wasn't done on the cheap, and it was set during the original trilogy.
George Lucas hates movies? by deanamatronix	Oct 5th, 2006 02:03:00 PM
No surprise there. It was perfectly clear from watching the prequal trilogy. Pieces of shit. And he's not semi-retired, he's semi-retarded.
So he's gonna hang back for a while... by Ricky Henderson	Oct 5th, 2006 02:03:14 PM
He'll figure out exactly how to rob you fools of your money via the interenet, then cash in. I love how he says he wants to figure out the "monetization" of the interenet... as if he's got a crack team of financial experts mulling over how to get people to enter their credit cards info online.
Lucas still makes movies? by WannaBePoser	Oct 5th, 2006 02:06:34 PM
Georgie boy has a long way to go to earn back my trust in his talent.
Second by zzyfrx	Oct 5th, 2006 02:07:00 PM
Good riddance! Lucas is best working on his technical achievements, but sucks hairy monkey balls as a film director. If he doesn't want to make any more movies, we're much better off for it.
It's just a case of him being lazy by ZombiKiller86	Oct 5th, 2006 02:12:51 PM
and I don't blame him either. Look at all the fuckin' money he's made with the Star Wars prequels. Of course he's gonna be "semi-retired", there's really nothing else to do after doing Star Wars except for Indiana Jones 4, which probably won't even happen at all (but, fingers crossed).
Lucas should pass the Star Wars torch... by beastie	Oct 5th, 2006 02:14:26 PM
Let someone make a Knights of the Old Republic trilogy. I think that would make a great story.
yeah, Lucas is no longer relevant by CTU Mole	Oct 5th, 2006 02:14:48 PM
Because those prequels really bombed at the box office. That third one almost went straight to youtube. Douchbags.
Get over it! by bubcus	Oct 5th, 2006 02:21:22 PM
I like the direction Lucasfilm is headed in. The Clone Wars cartoons were great (especially the second season) and I look forward to the upcoming TV shows (I am NOT holding my breath and being all giddy like I was prior to Episode 1). I also agree that it'll be nice to see Lucas get his hands into smaller experimental films. I think this is all great news. Get over the prequels, they're in the past now, Ep3 has some nice shots in it that I can rewatch. And hopefully Spielberg and Lucas can get those ideas in tune but I am not holding my breath for Indy 4 either.
GL is a definite Citizen by TheTalentedMrBond	Oct 5th, 2006 02:21:25 PM
GL is a definite Citizen Kane type guy-- a talented, daring young director who becomes a victim of his own success. Basically, he hasn't made anything notable in years.
Enough, he did not rape your childhood by bubcus	Oct 5th, 2006 02:22:11 PM
gah!!!!
"...love to see Lucas working at something..." by koomoReborn	Oct 5th, 2006 02:22:56 PM
"...he's passionate about again." And that was when? 30 years ago?
Have to agree with a lot of the senitments here. by Childe Roland	Oct 5th, 2006 02:26:48 PM
If I were allowed anywhere near Skywalker Ranch, I'd throw him a farewell party...just because I'm so happy not to have to bother with anything he tries to do theatrically anymore. He lost whatever he had about the time he moved the final battle from the wookie homeworld to Endor. And he talks just like a marketing suit now. Read those quotes. They're soulless. What he makes now isn't entertainment. They're investments. He will not be missed anymore than he was while he was still making prequels (I never missed the old George more than then).
No soul. by PwnedByStallone	Oct 5th, 2006 02:28:20 PM
For god's sake listen to him. Money money money. Does he care about anyhting else? How about making a movie you just care about asshole? Something you can throw your heart into. Maybe get some of that credit back you lost over the last 8 years. You're already rich. This guy has become everyhting he's puported to hate.
George Lucas "Child Raping Mother Fucker TM" hates YOU! by alucardvsdracula	Oct 5th, 2006 02:29:58 PM
Why else do you think he makes you burn your hard earned cash in his fuckin honour. And then admits to actually hating movies all along. What a total non surprise. That beardy child raping, adult fucking mother fucker, fucker. He's gonna get his one of these days. Oh boy is he gonna get it. I for one am sick of it. I'm as fucked off as hell and ain't gonna take it no more. Me, Warwick Davies, Kenny Baker and a bunch of other tiny retards are heading on down to Neverland (sorry, Skywalker Farm) and are gonna do a little raping of our own. Open wide Georgey boy "Here come da pain"!
forget everyhting i said. i'm dumb. by PwnedByStallone	Oct 5th, 2006 02:30:17 PM
doh
Remake ANH, ESB and ROTJ by Trevor Goodchild	Oct 5th, 2006 02:35:48 PM
I think he should remake episodes IV, V and VI to fit the more recent asthetic of the prequels.
Get Real - The Movie Business is A BUSINESS! by hypnotron	Oct 5th, 2006 02:38:45 PM
And entertainment the by-product of a bunch of greedy money men financing artists. Lucas just made a bunch of great movies and now he sees the future in TV - and he is right - look at HBO shows, Rome, Deadwood or ABC's Lost and tell me that the future of visual storytelling isn't TV. Film is nearly dead.
Lucas has been saying the same thing for by comedian_x	Oct 5th, 2006 02:41:10 PM
20 years. If you read interviews with him in the 1980's he said that he would - right after Jedi - stop and make "small, esoteric" films like THX. So I'll believe it when I see it.
Smaller esoteric movies? by Goatboy	Oct 5th, 2006 02:43:11 PM
Like Howard The Duck? Now he stuffs his ears with money, he can longer hear Coppola, De Palma etc saying "George, that idea/script sucks, let us help". He'll stick to tinkering and reissuing the Star Wars movies until somebody takes his toys away, whereupon he'll tear his library card up in a pique of temper (no more guild cards to destroy) and film himself gibbering autistically in a log cabin, playing with his private stash of SW models giggling "I'll show them, I'll show them all" whilst Spielberg shines god-lights through the window and denies having issues with Nazis.
AICN headline of the year by dodgethis	Oct 5th, 2006 02:43:30 PM
George Lucas hates movies! haha, thats a classic.
Much anticipation for the Live-Action Show... by Rakafraker	Oct 5th, 2006 02:49:38 PM
I can't wait to see what they do with it. For those who don't know (???), it is set between Ep3-4, and won't deal with any of the main characters from the movies. Trevor G. - They're making the originals into 3D in the next few years. I wonder if GL will make some alterations to match the aesthetic. I'd like to see what "esoteric" films GL will make. More Sci-fi? Please?
LUCAS SUX!!!! by Blaquesmith	Oct 5th, 2006 03:20:30 PM
Let Spielberg do Indy 4, Lucas will trash it! ¬¬"
TOO SOON by Pageiv	Oct 5th, 2006 03:35:08 PM
...for this article to mean anything, or at least give us anything new about the man. He's already said everything before, but the reason why he likes TV more is new.
Nothing breeds resentment like success by Liberty Valance	Oct 5th, 2006 03:41:13 PM
Like Ralph Fiennes said in Quiz Show: "Anyone who thinks money is ever just money could never have had much of it." I love the working-class-hero bullshit that gets puked onto these talkbacks which insinuates the accumulation of wealth is somehow evil. Here is reality: you can never have too much money. A billion, five billion, 500 billion. It's not enough. Every person on this board will slave for 60 years in various jobs they hate for one reason and one reason only: money. There is no honor or nobility in your mundane jobs. And that's why you hate Lucas: because he's 1000 times better at making money than you are. Your life and accomplishments are dried diarrhea compared to his, and you fucking know it.
George Lucas hates movies and... by PwnedByStallone	Oct 5th, 2006 03:42:02 PM
George Bush doesn't care about black people. I love Kanye wisdom. True.
This is . . . by Almost_Human	Oct 5th, 2006 03:42:31 PM
the best thing to happen to science fiction cinema EVER. George Lucas is a hack writer with an excellent SFX facility. Period. He does have a good eye though, despite his pitiful storytelling skills(though much lauded by those who think apeing an idea from Joseph Campbell is genius literature). Good ridance.
Fuck Indy 4! by dirtsandwich	Oct 5th, 2006 03:47:46 PM
Why! God, can you please come up with something new? They've already went down that road 3 times. Ford won't be any fun as an old fuck! Move on.
revenge of the sith will OWN your asses by Exeter	Oct 5th, 2006 03:47:47 PM
remember that? lol
INDY 4 = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by Badger999	Oct 5th, 2006 03:48:03 PM
It is funny because it is true.
wanna know why theatres are dying? by datachasm	Oct 5th, 2006 03:50:25 PM
it costs $50 for 2 people to go, for that kind money i would rather see a live show or grab a season boxset...
Jeez, can we finally quit with the Lucas-hating? by GiggityGoo	Oct 5th, 2006 03:50:27 PM
C'mon already. Give it a rest. I'm a guy who loves all six Star Wars movies (yes, even Phantom Menace), but I would never call them "perfect". I like them just because they entertain me. And then, when they're over, I go back out into the real world. Lucas had a vision, he saw it through to the end, and he's enormously creative. No, he's not the greatest director or dialogue writer on earth, but I'm able to enjoy his work nonetheless. Now that he's retiring, hopefully all the bashers out there will retire too.
Brilliant storyteller? by Frankenblogger	Oct 5th, 2006 03:57:36 PM
Fuck you, Quint. Lucas lost it a long long time ago. Christ! The best Star Wars movie wasn't even scripted OR directed by him! Lucas SUCKS.
wow, GL is the physical form of capitalism by Exeter	Oct 5th, 2006 04:08:50 PM
wake up fellas, and set aside your bling bling and dreams of piles of money, you're living in the land of capitalism! that's right, only instead of getting fucked up the ass direct like in a totalitarian society, now you subtely rot away in this capitalistic society (same effect, different processes) unbeknownst to yourselves while every company tries to draw more & more money out of your decaying body. look at liberty valance, perfect example of the apathetic zombie brought up and programmed by this capitalist society. poor poor fella. i'd say karl marx had the best idea of a society, but unfortunately his name & ideas have been tarnished by 20th century bolsheviks and their dictatorships masquerading as marx's ideology. "greed is good" should be the motto of the good ol US of A, heck it should be made into a song and be the national anthem because no matter how much you deny it, it's true. i wouldn't expect many americansn to understandn what i'm talkingn about because they have no concept of a non-capitalist society (there are few areas on earth truly free) because they've been brought up and fed and lubricated in perfect order. hey just like THX made by capitalist #1 GL, maybe there's hidden meanings and the robert duvall is truly the bad guy!
Star Wars still confuses me. by Sir HickoryBeans McCrackin	Oct 5th, 2006 04:10:40 PM
So are they humans? Aliens? Wait, if they're humans, where's earth? Is Chewy a sasquatch?
Ass by Deep Roots	Oct 5th, 2006 04:17:18 PM
If Lucas keeps Indy-blocking Spielberg, Steven should kick his irrelevant ass. I guess Lucas doesn't like it that other filmmakers are still trying to evolve in their careers.
Bunnies in the headlights by PadewanKlaatu	Oct 5th, 2006 04:23:01 PM
Take a good look through every single talkback that has EVER appeared on this site in relation to a story that is even slightly related to Lucas or Star Wars, and you will see the same litanies repeated over and over and over again, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, yet there is, curiously, one common denominator; EVERY time Lucas releases something - EVERY time - all of you talkbackers who spend the months (and sometimes years) before the release spouting such fatuous nonsense as "GL raped my childhood" whatever-in-the-name-of-all-th at-is-holy THAT is supposed to mean, are there on OPENING DAY TO SEE IT!!!! What does the title to my post mean? It's a description of you all. You wait in the bushes ready to ambush anything that Lucas has coming down the road, then you hop into the middle of the road, get blinded by the lights and get run down in the hype. I laugh at you all, haters amuse me, haters amuse George Lucas. If Lucas is, indeed, laughing all the way to the bank, then it's because he's going to deposit all of the millions of bucks that you're giving to him.
right on yackbacker by Exeter	Oct 5th, 2006 04:23:03 PM
BLING BLING
He doesn't trust Spielberg because by MattCG	Oct 5th, 2006 04:36:12 PM
he knows he's a better director and is a thousand times the creative force he is, that's why. Everyone in the world was telling him the prequels didn't work and he didn't listen. Fuck Lucas. He's gotten the last fucking dollar out of me he's going to.
Heres my opinion, I know you all care ;) by godzillasushi	Oct 5th, 2006 04:38:26 PM
You really cant blame him for avoiding giant budgets when he doesnt need to now. This whole Star Wars TV series hopefully turns out fantastic, but for movies, do we really care about the biggies now? Plus id rather have 50 emotion driven movies than an Episode one. They should invest more in Lucas Arts, they have some good ideas goin on there.
Lucas is a shitty filmmaker, but a good businessman. by rbatty024	Oct 5th, 2006 04:38:33 PM
I actually agree that large investment films are slowly dying away. They are too risky and there have been too many bombs lately. The entertainment economy is shifting towards the long tail theory, where instead of a couple of big blockbusters, or signing a couple of big pop singers, the industry will start making more products that appeal to smaller cult audiences. It has been happening for a while now. For example, all major studios have an independent film division and many music labels are buying up small indie bands. They're not expecting to make boatloads on individual products, but in the aggregate they can turn a nice profit. Lucas is just reacting to the economic climate, not really deriding films.
Lucas needs to be on the forefront by Mechasheeva	Oct 5th, 2006 04:42:14 PM
of technology so he can develop that mind-wipe device that will make us all forget about the prequels. Then he will get Alfonso Cuaron or someone else who's talented to remake them, effectivelu unraping everyone's childhood. Get to it, Lucas.
So...Esoteric films, huh? by Reelheed	Oct 5th, 2006 04:42:54 PM
This I must see.
YackBacker is right by Leprechaun	Oct 5th, 2006 04:44:32 PM
Especially about Lucas being right. Because I go to the movies for the big ones. 2007 will have Spider-Man 3, Shrek 3, Pirates of the Caribbean 3, Fantasic Four 2, Live Free or Die Hard, Transformers, Harry Potter 5, The Simpsons Movie, and The Bourne Identity 3 (I know it's not the name) - just to name a few. And I'll go on opening weekend for most of them. I got a measly 47" HD TV and up-converting DVD player (to be replaced by Blu-Ray when prices drop) and an HD DVR (to be replaced with the Tivo one when I find $800 that the wife won't kill me over) that I use to record HD broadcasts instead of watching on DVDs. Honestly, when I turn off the lights and sit down with my measly 5.1 channel 800 watt sound system to watch a DVRed movie or show, or a DVD - it feels like I'm in a very decent theater. Actually, it's probably better than most theaters around me, as they dim their freakin' bulbs and pump sound through their aging speakers. I download the STARGATE shows in DivX and play them in that same up-converting DivX-capable DVD player and even that freakin' awesome. Television ain't the thing that killed movie theaters - high definition television is.
Those people that work at the theatres by godzillasushi	Oct 5th, 2006 04:46:17 PM
arent sooooo bad lol. I guess I dont have a vile hate for them because I pretty much stopped going to the movies. One year I saw like 30-40 movies, this year...2 I think, the ones everyone else saw lol.
Lucas won't dare do another wide-release movie. by CreasyBear	Oct 5th, 2006 04:49:54 PM
His scripting and direction of the prequels was lacking (Revenge was on par with the original trilogy, though). He got lambasted over and over for the prequels, but he could always rationalize it because of the mountains of money flowing in. (Usual defense of any criticism: "Hey, they're just kids' movies! Stop analyzing them!") But without the magic of the Star Wars universe, he'll be standing up there alone, with only his stilted, overt dialogue and weak direction. I mean, come on, all the Jar Jar bashing had to get to him eventually. He knows the hammer that's going to fall on any new movie he writes and directs (esoteric or not).
"Lucas Raped My Childhood" by blackwood	Oct 5th, 2006 04:52:29 PM
Your childhood is a fucking slut who was asking for it. Ah, Lucas. TOKYO IS BURNING!
Does "esoteric" mean "crappy" now? by Ace Hunter	Oct 5th, 2006 05:00:54 PM
Guess I have to leave a comment so.... George Lucas raped my adulthood.
Never make INDY 4. by victor laszlo	Oct 5th, 2006 05:11:34 PM
They ride off into the sunset. The end. Don't be blinded by wanting more, there is far more to lose here than to gain.
Re Yackbacker Indy 4 is not going to happen by emeraldboy	Oct 5th, 2006 05:15:13 PM
Untrue.Indy 4 is happening. In recent issue to celebrate the 25th anniversary Indiana Jones and Raiders of the lost ark. Empire Magazine talked exclusively to Harrison ford, Speilberg and George Lucas and it is happening. They do have a story and its a dark one. in fact it was so dark that they though lucas was crazy. this was posted on empire's website www.empireonline.co.uk on 21 august..... Getting one of the Indiana Jones triumvirate to talk about the fourth sequel is a rare opportunity, but getting George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford to spill at the same time is as infrequent as finding a needle in a haystack under some hen's teeth on a blue moony night at the end of a month of Sundays. But Empire was lucky enough to speak with the trio as part of our massive Indiana Jones 25th anniversary celebrations and it seems that Indy IV is going to be a tad controversial. “We’re basically going to do The Phantom Menace”, says Lucas (stay with him here, he’s making a point). “People’s expectations are way higher than you can deliver. You could just get killed for the whole thing…We would do it for fun and just take the hit with the critics and the fans...But nobody wants to get into it unless they are really happy with it”. The ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ situation has freed up an idea for a plot that was originally deemed too incendiary. “I discovered a McGuffin,” continues Lucas, still reluctant to name said McGuffin. “I told the guys about it and they were a little dubious about it, but it’s the best one we’ve ever found… Unfortunately, it was a little too ‘connected’ for the others. They were afraid of what the critics would think. They said, “Can’t we do it with a different McGuffin? Can’t we do this?” and I said “No”. So we pottered around with that for a couple of years. And then Harrison really wanted to do it and Steve said, “Okay”. I said, “We’ll have to go back to that original MacGuffin and take out the offending parts of it and we’ll still use that area of the supernatural do deal with it”. “Hopefully it will be different in all the right ways and the same in all the familiar ways,” adds Spielberg. As for timing, Lucas says that filming is scheduled for mid-2007, for a 2008 release but getting the gang back together is a tricky proposition. “Before I was just working with Steven and Harrison. Now everybody’s a superstar, so it’s a little bit more difficult than it was then”. “But there’s a good chance it will happen,” assures Ford. “There are things left for this character to do
It's hard out there for a billionaire... by Flim Springfield	Oct 5th, 2006 05:17:29 PM
He's probably overwhelmed by the sheer limitlessness of his options. Poor guy.
Since the prequels came out by emeraldboy	Oct 5th, 2006 05:40:45 PM
I have been listening to one long moan and bitch from the star wars fans and the he raped my childhood people. look my view is this is his saga, he made it invented the technology and created the characters(including the detstable Jar jar binks or as he is called in the sinmpsons jim jam bonks) and wrote the screenplays. He made money out of it why because it belongs to him. He could have just fuck all this after the first three films and never made any more and let all of the rumours be rumours and just walk away. Certainly he stands be accused of being one of the worst screenwriters and there is no argument from me abour that. George Lucas is what all filmmakers are and that is he perfectionist. If you had over 1 billion in the bank and you thought that your first three films, even though they made a vast amount of money, looked unfinished and being a perfectionist you would make go back to them, once in a while....
Yeah, I agree Quint.... by WONKABAR	Oct 5th, 2006 05:40:50 PM
"I have been very critical of the prequels, but I would really love to see Lucas working at something he's passionate about again. He's a brilliant storyteller when his heart is in it and if he wants to make these esoteric, small movies, that's great. Having said that, if he really comes off as not caring about INDY 4 as the article suggests, why doesn't he trust his friend, Steven Spielberg, who is passionate about making the next film? That way he can focus on holding the hand of the Star Wars TV show and directing his own small movies. At least those are my thoughts. What are yours?" Too bad it probably won't go down that way....Lucas seems to have a Knack for doing the opposite of what you hope he does. Hey, he has every right to....I just noticed that's all.
Selfish fuck recently donated $175 million to USC by Liberty Valance	Oct 5th, 2006 05:45:43 PM
Yup, all the greedy bastard cares about is making money. All he cares about is accumulating as much as wealth as he can for his own selfish purposes. Hey talkbackers, when was the last time you donated a goddamn dime to anything? DEAD SILENCE
Yackbacker by emeraldboy	Oct 5th, 2006 05:47:59 PM
I am avid buyer of empire magazine. So i can deduce that lucas's idea is pretty much dead and buried. Between you and me it was to with a thorn in christs side or something. Guess we will never know.
Bye bye, Lucas by IMScully33	Oct 5th, 2006 05:48:28 PM
Seriously, when you can see what directors like Peter Jackson and Zack Snyder can do...who really can shed a tear over Lucas? It's funny that he whines about the current state of film when there's so many young Turks owning his ass with LOTR and 300.
The Star Wars Series by MarkoOhNo	Oct 5th, 2006 05:53:04 PM
Takes place in the time period between the original trilogy (IV-VI) and the recent prequel trilogy (I-III), in the early years of the Empire and the birth of the Rebellion. After reading Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, I suspect it will be about scattered remnants of the Jedi order hiding from the Empire while seeking out other survivors, with the help of some smugglers & sympathizers. Or at least I'd tune in to watch that. :)
That's obvious after watching his mediocre films by leolo	Oct 5th, 2006 05:53:26 PM
Important as an influence as well as in social, industry and marketing issues, because as a film director his work is extremely poor.
Why are the first few news headlines always invisible? by Logo Lou	Oct 5th, 2006 05:59:36 PM
I gave up caring about Lucas after I saw the Phantom Menace.
tv show by sokitome	Oct 5th, 2006 06:01:26 PM
no one gives a flying fuck about what happens between 3 and 4, at least I don't. if he really wants to save face and hopefully get back his fans the tv show will either be about the ancient past like knights of the old rep. or it will be after Jedi.
Lucas = inventor of Velcro by thebearovingian	Oct 5th, 2006 06:01:30 PM
they have that one success for which they'll always be remembered. Lucas' is Star Wars. And I have no idea who the inventor of Velcro is. And I don't feel like Googling it.
Semi-retarded is more like it by alienindisguise	Oct 5th, 2006 06:02:50 PM
There may have been a time when Lucas had a love of film in his thx1138 days but the man obviously never had vision. People want to give him sole credit for Star Wars when in fact Ralph McQuarrie created the world and were it not for him the trilogy would've never existed. Lucas is nothing more than a technology whore, plain and simple, he's probably spooging over the newest shitty fx ilm is vomiting out right now. At one time I was interested in Lucasfilm's other projects but Lucas has fucked up so many times I no longer give a rats ass.
Sith... by Lucasblows	Oct 5th, 2006 06:12:56 PM
...was pile of shit.
Lucas with the lid off. by The Fat Baldwin	Oct 5th, 2006 06:25:35 PM
Lucas’ last three movies were simply sloppy, economic exercises with most of critical attention deservingly given to the brilliant artists who work on slave ship ILM. His latest re-releases of the original trilogy project a familiar smugness and cynicism as well. They offer little new for the fan except the knowledge that Lucas will be able to afford New Zealand soon. Meanwhile, as he and Spielberg lackadaisically swap faxes on the languishing Indy 4, Harrison Ford quietly becomes the age Connery was when he played his dad. Absurd. He’s semi-retired? Personally, I have no issue if he goes for the fully.
...and about that donation. by The Fat Baldwin	Oct 5th, 2006 06:27:10 PM
Okay, lastly, and this offends me the most, during the recent and promising rise of mega-philanthropy (Buffet, Gates, Branson, etc.) for dire causes with dire consequences e.g. AIDS in Africa and global warming, how can Lucas give $175 million to USC simply without flinching?
New Animated Show Sounds Cool, Too by Total Geekazoid	Oct 5th, 2006 06:37:13 PM
http://tinyurl.com/mne9r
No seriously... by Sir HickoryBeans McCrackin	Oct 5th, 2006 06:42:01 PM
Are they humans or what?
re: GuyLombardo by beamish13	Oct 5th, 2006 06:51:27 PM
it wasn't just Marcia Lucas. Gary Kurtz was hugely important to the success of SW. Lucas does surround himself with yes-men that don't force him to reexamine his creative impetuses
The Forbidden Paint Brush by sentient	Oct 5th, 2006 06:54:11 PM
When a completely digital, consumer, affordable, top of the line, quality camera with the same resolution as industry cameras comes to the market. Then and only then will the final days of the film industry will ring. The Camera is the only artistic medium that is unobtainable in contrast to clay, paint, and digital 3d. Near Hollywood Quality Camera's cost tons of money. When that is changed and the quality levels match exactly what a big budget film Camera can do- then Hollywood better number it's days. I've seen aspiring amateurs "out sculpt" some of the best fx studios. I've seen 15 year old make 3d models that can hold ground with any big budget featured 3d character. But the Camera still remains trapped in consumer grade and the best ones are way to much money and still under par in contrast to the ones Hollywood uses. If Lucas really cares about the artist and the end of bloated budgets. Then he should change this first. Then the indie scene will attack! He's right about his statements. The revolution will be online, people will offer dvd copies and downloads and so on and some site will sell over a million copies of a non Hollywood feature online, and then the world as we know it the whole pondo roso will change many will never look back. The Hollywood business way is fucking up the Art constantly. They build the directors egos they have to attach big named stars and add more senseless action sequences and more trite witty catch phrase and dialog. In effect telling stories that well aren't stories- This was not Edison intention. The Art and story aspect of film are dying over action figures, fast food venues, soda, cereal and junk food tie in's, product placements, big named stars, and action sequences. I want to live in world where there are no more test screenings, no more safe films, and one day hopefully before I die- films made by artist that succeed with out industry backing or distribution. Oh what a day it will be when these studios and cinemas begin folding left and right, and sites like these cry out how unfair it is that history is disappearing. When in fact it's not, but rather IT'S CHANGING.
George Lucas hates movies...DUH! by DOGSOUP	Oct 5th, 2006 07:04:11 PM
Those abominations called 'prequals' were his way of showing the world HOW MUCH he hates us all and movies in general...
Is this that American Grafitti Guy? by Dataset	Oct 5th, 2006 07:06:05 PM
The one that put Opie in a movie? He's still alive? He should do "Weekend at Bernies 3". That would be so cool. Maybe they can get that Opie guy to work in movies again and use Don Knotts as Bernie.
Sentient, you have said it all... by spindrift	Oct 5th, 2006 07:19:07 PM
amazing comments- hiots the nail right on the head! everything you said is right- Hollywood's days are numbered as more indie projects will be professionally made and presented on the internet-projects that will STUN everyone who is tired of this factory made crap. the future is coming-George needs to fund and promote this kind of mass produced high end camera...
After the mess of ROTS, Lucas is dead to me by performingmonkey	Oct 5th, 2006 07:22:54 PM
Just go back and watch the trilogy again, ROTS is the fucking WEAKEST of the three! and that's certainly saying something after the slice of excrement that was Attack of the Clones. The only thing worth anything in ROTS is the CG. The big Anakin/Obi-Wan duel was crap, didn't live up to expectations thanks to the over-use of CG and lack of good dialogue (this is what makes the original trilogy duels good - 'you are beaten! it's is useless to resist!' and all that stuff), the way the duel ended was RETARDED to say the least. Palpatine becoming the Emperor was like 'meh' when after the nice build-up in Episode 1, I was really looking forward to how this played out. The Mace/Palpatine duel and Anakin's turn - a scene which obviously had the potential to be the best in the entire saga - was SHIT. Ian McDiarmid and Samuel L Jackson forgot how to act. The performances in TPM were more natural (if it wasn't for Jake Lloyd and some of the more stupid Jar-Jar moments...). TPM is the best movie. The other two feel way too much like sterile CG studio movies. At least TPM is like a Star Wars movie, I don't know what the fuck AOTC and ROTS are. Lucas should NOT have directed Episodes II & III. It makes me so angry to think how great another director and writer could have been, how fucking fantastic Episode II could have been - if it didn't have Star Wars slapped on it it would be seen as one of the worst big-budget movies ever made, which it is. ROTS is no better.
how to view the prequels if you love Star Wars... by Amy Chasing	Oct 5th, 2006 07:44:54 PM
This works for me: If you love the original trilogy (ie. not your special editions, or special special editions, or Enterprise A,B,C,or D - only the originals) then the prequels are best viewed as: 1) feature length "special features" to accompany the original trilogy DVDs - ya know, for if you want to get a glimpse into the background of the originals, the prequels are a light-weight way of doing that. 2) comic book adaptations. Having just read the Clone Wars series by Ostrander & Duursema, the structure and style of the prequels would have suited graphic novels perfectly. This is not to say that the Clone Wars comics would make good movies though.
ROTS was the Best SW Film, performingmonkey by DarthDooku	Oct 5th, 2006 08:00:18 PM
It really depends on when you grew up. i saw the original OT (or whatever the non-SE VHS version were in the mid 1990s) first, then the SEs, and then the PT, and i love them all, and equally. It's all one movie, but if you want to single out the strongest section of this film, ROTS was it. Despite what many think, GL didn't lose his storytelling expertise or filmmaking abilities; people expected to see the OT again, and the PT just wasn't the OT. Equally good, different, but equally good.
don't think this is news by reckni	Oct 5th, 2006 08:03:46 PM
he's just a grumpy old man.
Who cares?? by Kenny8	Oct 5th, 2006 08:19:35 PM
It's not as if Lucas is relevant anymore.
The series will probably be boring as hell. by Prof. Pop-Cult	Oct 5th, 2006 08:35:38 PM
Look, what do we have to go on to make us believe that the series will be anything but dull? The Ewok movies? The Young Indy Chronicles, which were wonderfully produced but slow moving pieces of edutainment? The animated series? The infamous Christmas special? The ONLY exception has been the Clone Wars animated mini-series. The only chance that a live-action Star Wars series has is if Lucas stays away from it, handling day-to-day executive production chores and that's it.
No, not interested, and not lying by Kenny8	Oct 5th, 2006 08:37:08 PM
Star Wars TV shows?? It aint world stopping news anymore
"I think the secret to the future is quantity," Lucas s by Nezzer6364	Oct 5th, 2006 08:52:09 PM
I noticed that he moved from quality to quantity when he did the last 3 Star Wars
star wars kicks ass by El Borak	Oct 5th, 2006 09:32:39 PM
and always will.
right on, El Borak by deadlegend	Oct 5th, 2006 10:04:40 PM
Star Wars rules. All the prequel trilogy needs is to be re-edited. THAT' IT. Think about it. All of those cheesy, half-acted scenes could be cut out or recut to be made more serious and even believable. 90% of the jarjar scenes could be cut out, with the exception of the ones that are required to keep continuity flowing. There are a few scenes from AOTC that could be recut, the dialogue could be remastered, and at least one scene could be cut out of the film (the crappy love scene in the field where Anakin and Padme roll over onto each other). And ROTS could be recut somewhat and some of the visual effects shots could be touched up. But if they do all of this, there should be a new version of the original trilogy. There should be even more visual effects additions, new cg lightsaber duel animations that have Obi Wan, Luke and Vader doing fast Jedi/Sith lightsaber shit (you know what I mean), and new cg scenes that expand upon planets like Yavin 4 and the Centauri moon of Endor, for starters. There's a lot of shit Lucas could do to perfect the saga, but probably never will. Oh well.
For all of those George Lucas haters... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Oct 5th, 2006 10:12:31 PM
Lucas is still better than 90% of the "wannabes" known as "directors" in Hollywood today. And you know what? People actually WATCH his films!
George Lucas raped my...oh, never mind by ATARI	Oct 5th, 2006 10:21:14 PM
I don't even care anymore. It's true -- the opposite of love isn't hate -- it's indifference.
*Correction: MOVIES HATE GEORGE LUCAS! by robogeek.com	Oct 5th, 2006 10:27:54 PM
And yes, I am proud to have originated both the "George Lucas raped my childhood" and "Flames on Optimus = Nipples on Batman" memes, thank you very much. (I promise to use my boundless powers of mass influence only for good!)
The Haters are just a bunch of hypocrites.... by Plazola_MEX	Oct 5th, 2006 10:33:16 PM
yes i mean you! Fucking haters... Because you are always bitchin' about George Lucas and every times there is a star wars movie, Indiana Jones end even howard the duck (Yes don´t deny it bunch of dawm fucks) you are in first place in line to see it. You are only with envy for george because he´s succesfull and has all the money that you don´t have even if you live 3 lives to have it. One last thing.... FUCK YOU ALL.
DarthDooku And Zombie i agree.... by Plazola_MEX	Oct 5th, 2006 10:41:20 PM
Because the older fans like me (well most of 'em) see this as a whole, the new generations may not understand that the PT and the OT have taken place in different eras, with diferent characters. What they expect? Han Solo since Episode 1? Come on....
Hulk Hogan should play George Lucas... by Forestal	Oct 5th, 2006 10:47:52 PM
"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing, brother."
George Lucas abducted, detained and raped my adulthood by Laserbrain	Oct 5th, 2006 11:00:23 PM
Friends. The Star Wars TV show is about one thing only- to keep a fanbase of ordinary, unremarkable and unhappy fanboys-and-girls suckling at the tit of escapist space-fantasy for as long as it makes Lucascorp money. Lucas knows what dorks we are. He knows how desperately we need the Star Wars Universe because we'd rather live vicariously there then down here on Earth in our shit jobs with our bad skin and our unattended boners. I've had it with his bullshit claims about doing little independent, esoteric, art films. When is the motherfucker going to get around to it- when he's 100? Sure, he's gonna get on it, right after this profitable and redundant TV show. The greedy bastard is comparing the RRP of a DVD Season Box Set with that of a measly two disc movie and licking his lips. Of COURSE he thinks movies aren't financially viable anymore. If he wants to make money then fine but for fuck's sake I wish he'd stop masquerading as an "artist" and "storyteller".
If George Lucas "raped" your childhood... by ccchhhrrriiisssm	Oct 5th, 2006 11:05:27 PM
...then your childhood (and mental aptitude) left a lot to be desired. People like that need to put down the remote and take up sports or dating. ;)
Prequel haters raped my childhood!!!!!!!!!!!! by J-Dizzle	Oct 5th, 2006 11:35:05 PM
nuff' said
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Oct 5th, 2006 11:40:30 PM
Lucas' or Lucas's?? I say the first one.
Lucas waited 10 years too long to stop making movies. by Regicidal_Maniac	Oct 6th, 2006 12:08:50 AM
I, like many above me, wish he'd have made this decision before he started fucking around with the Star Wars trilogy in 1997.
Libery Valance, (Cool moniker.)that's also.... by Uncapie	Oct 6th, 2006 12:13:08 AM
...a $175 million dollar tax write off for him too and considering how much money he's made off the Star Wars franchise(He owns it. 20th just distributes it as he banked it with his own cash.) he's no fool. Don't get sucked into the hype. As one poster above said, "The movie business is a business" and he's right." Its all about the Benjamins, not creativity anymore. The rare creative film does appear but, not without a fight or a loss to get it made. Remember Rockerfeller and the dimes he used to hand out to the children in the Great Depression? He was a right bastard in business.You had to buy from his company store at inflated prices and if you didn't, his goons would kick the shit out of you and expect you to go back to work the next day. All is not what it seems, especially in Hollywood.
George works better on TV by Redbox	Oct 6th, 2006 12:14:27 AM
Television doesn't matter as much (although I'm not knocking Today's great TV shows) and his Young Indiana Jones shows were cute. George is a technical master, perfect for "B" or "B+" TV. Films? George is like a 70's rocker. Once he made us soar, and not just in Star Wars, but what about "American Graffiti?" Now, I think his tired bones deserve the cozy rest that is the sporratic productions of harmless TV...or Lazy-Boy farts! Cheers George!!
MOVIES TO LUCAS: STOP BUTCHERING MOVIES by uberman	Oct 6th, 2006 12:16:23 AM
It seems as if movies have all breathed a sigh of relief with the news the George Lucas will not be attempting to make them anytime soon. Instead, the once kinda good director will devote his time creating a new line of toys for WAL-MART to celebrate his return to milking the now officially dead STAR WARS(TM)universe for television.
"You guys are all a bunch of slack jawed faggots!" by donkeypark	Oct 6th, 2006 12:17:03 AM
Look how much time you spend online ripping the shit out of people you hate!?? Dipshits.
Red Tails deserves a big budget behind it. by R.C. the "Wise"	Oct 6th, 2006 12:39:30 AM
My grandfather is a Tuskegee Airmen. His name is Roger "Bill" Terry. Google his name and read all about his amazing story and others of the 99th and 332nd! We've both met with Lucas and his team at Skywalker Ranch last Fall to discuss the development of this film. Gorgeous facility. I realize some of you would give a limb for that experience. Lucas was very cordial and respectful. He's a stand up guy and a good listener. Right now it looks like he's focused on keeping the budget under $50-60 Million. At the time, this was a problem for me (of course after seeing the FX in FLYBOYS they could pull off some incredible stuff under that restricted budget. I just feel it deserves better. Not a tentpole $200+ budget, that's a tad excessive, but a solid $100 million dollar marque budget.) but not for my grandfather and his fellow airmen who are just excited to finally get this film out of creative hell. (This film was supposed to be made in the early 90's. Unfortunately, Hollywood politics played a big part in the delay. Lucas and Speilberg were furious at the big studios's lack of committment. They weren't willing to devote the budget they were looking for to do the film. The suits felt that they couldn't market and sell a film with a predominate black cast. Keep in mind that when these negotiations were taking place Glory received numerous oscar nominations. It's still unbelievable that those suits had the audacity to take sucha stand(Same stigma still inflicts most studios. They're only willing to support A level budgets for 4 Black leads {Washington, W. Smith, J. Foxx, and H. Berry}. From those struggles, Speilberg went on to start the Jurassic Park franchise, do Schindler's list and start up Dreamworks. While Lucas invested time in reworking Lucasfilm, THX, and ILM. Then, of course, he did the prequels. RED TAILS just kept getting pushed back. Which was tragic since most of the Airmen are either in their 80's (My grandfather just turned 85) or are no longer with us {R.I.P.}. Lucas needs to hit this out of the park. Redeem himself for those awful prequels. I'm optimistic, for one thing, the only positive out of the prequels was his casting. His casting was superb; yes even Hayden, he can act when someone else directs him. Ultametly, I'm optimistic that the film will be completed and release by veteren's Day 2008. Fingers crossed.
Lucas will release a Special Edition of that article... by Darth Bauer	Oct 6th, 2006 01:02:39 AM
And you'll buy it you suckers. Screw that money hungry lying jerk. He hates us because we find flaws in what he considers diamonds.
So this explains ... by Wookie_Weed	Oct 6th, 2006 01:24:21 AM
... Jar Jar Binks and the three prequels. Oh Jar Jar, everyone hates you but me ...
Outstanding, R.C. the Wise... by Uncapie	Oct 6th, 2006 02:08:24 AM
My dad was a B-17 crew chief/flight engineer with the 381st, 8th. I met one of the Red Tails at the Museum Of Flying before they closed it in Santa Monica(City Council idiots had a hand in its undermining.). I don't know if was him but, he and I spent an hour just talking about the P-51. It was amazing just listening to him. If it wasn't for these guys who went up there day after day doing what they hand to do and our friends in Britain, it would have been a different world. Nice too see that your gramps' wisdom didn't fall too far from the tree, o' wise one.
ZombieSolutions.... by Kenny8	Oct 6th, 2006 02:38:30 AM
No, you don't have anyone pegged I've seen the prequels out of curiosity, but I wouldn't even let a ripped version into the house. I'm not interested in them. I can't be assed ever watching them again! Believe it that some folk could care less about Lucas, and being on here isn't some sort of endorsement, just passing some time
GEORGE LUCAS STILL OWNS ALL YOUR ASSES by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 6th, 2006 03:21:44 AM
The fact that every time his name is mentione you all crawl on here and start spouting forth proves it. At the end of the day, the guy made STAR WARS. That's all he ever need do. So what he does now is kind of irrelevant. I can never thank him enough for all those happy innocent childhood hours. Without him there would have been no Kenner AT-AT Walker. I think all you moaners and whiners out there are just disappointed you're not kids anymore. Here endeth the lesson.
Serails or not, STAR WARS and INDY are Lucas' babies... by Monkey_King	Oct 6th, 2006 03:36:12 AM
He has the right to say where and when the characters should go.
George Lucas Needs Anti-Depressants. by Dwarf Sidious	Oct 6th, 2006 03:50:30 AM
Here's a billionaire with all the world's toys at his disposal, and he's not having any fun. In fact, he doesn't seem in touch with his muse--where's the passion? If he gets so much joy out of educational initiatives, then do more of that. Philanthropy? Great--do that. His attitude toward movies these days seems completely joyless. Why make more? Given that, it's even more cynical to make some computer-generated spinoff TV series devoid even of its characters' original voices. It's a recipe for soulessness--a copy of a copy of a copy. The idea that this could fund philanthropic good works is not an excuse--it doesn't respect the audience, and it's bad art.
Lucas Animation? by Spazwankle	Oct 6th, 2006 03:57:47 AM
Escape from Monkey Island movie please
Performingmonkey by SithMenace	Oct 6th, 2006 04:46:35 AM
You're so right, I get so angry when I think about what the prequels could've been. The really upsetting part is that Lucas was seeking out a different director for all three movies, and Spielberg was his first choice for TPM. It was Spielberg that told him he needed to get back in the director's chair, and do at least one of them. Think of what TPM could've been with a good director, or ROTS for that matter.
Defend yourself DarthDooku by IndustryKiller!	Oct 6th, 2006 04:52:12 AM
how the fuck can you say ROTS was the best? Now mind you Im not arguing with you since arguing would imply that you have a point thats possible to defend, but I just want to know how ones mind can reach such flights of fancy. Now ROTS has awful acting, not like the originals, more like Ed Wood movies. If you think the acting is good learn the first fucking thing about acting. Its awfully written, once again Ed Wood like dialogue. It directly contradicts what we are told in the OT at several points. The moments we have been waiting a lifetime to see are about as climactic as, well, something really fucking anti-climactic. In fact I would goa s far to say as Anakins literal turn tot eh dark side is one of the most ridiculous, unjustified, out there character moments int eh history of film. The camera work is amatuerish at best, with the Mace Windu and Anakin/Obi Wan fight be indecipherable at parts other than whirling lights. And the CG, Lucas loads on so much of it the movie looks like a god damn cartoon. Its impossible to get lost in the world of the film because the characters themselves dont seem to exist on the same plane as the awkward blue screen backgrounds. I could just go on and on about the flaws in that film. In fact many articles have been written stating exactly why ROTS is an unwatchable mess while not a single one has been written convincingly defending its flaws. It doesn't depend on when you grew up, it depends whether you have any sort of informed appreciation of film and whether you like rich characterization, good writing, and directing.
credit where it's due by Mr Gorilla	Oct 6th, 2006 05:35:26 AM
You may like or loathe the Prequels. (Personally I like them, although it's hard to argue against accusations of clunky dialogue and staid performances - Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid are just about the only actors who come away with their dignity, though I like the guy who plays Mr Lars Snr too.) But my point, dude, is that even if you loathe them, at least concede that Lucas was being very ambitious. ONE: He tried to tell the story of how a good man turns to bad, against the backdrop of a republic turning into a dictatorship. And he was trying to make the point that dictatorships aren't always the result of a straightforward coup, but that there are plenty of examples in history of dictators being given power by a willing populus. Ultra-conservative governments have been more cleverly portrayed in lots of sci-fi films, but I can't think of many films that try to get inside the transformation of a republic into a dictatorship. TWO: His thing of creating lots of (contrasting) echoes between the prequels and the original trilogy did succeed, I think, in giving the whole saga of sex a certain artistic energy. There are so many, but my favourites are the 'join me' conversations (2&5), Sidious sitting in a big chair watching his youngers fight it out (3&6), and of course those two setting suns (3&4). And here's a final thing: whatever you think about his faults as a writer or a director (personally I think he still knows how to put together a kick-ass action sequence), his genius as a creator of a universe is still quite something. Over and out.
Indy 4 will never get made by barnaby jones	Oct 6th, 2006 06:10:33 AM
By the time Spielberg and Lucas sort out their creative differences (if they ever do) Ford will be dead.
Red Tails sounds like it does deserve to be a big film by Redbox	Oct 6th, 2006 06:34:42 AM
And Monkey Island would be a great animation! I forgot about that! I love those cool Lucas Arts games!! It's interesting that the little puppies at this site are so violently angry in defense of Lucas. Most people I know who didn't like the new Star Wars movies have three things in common, one - they are now over it, since the Original films are on DVD, two - they feel completely tired and drained by news of a man/child and his tempid attempts to recreate his former genius, three - they are over twelve. WIth Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson carrying on from the ispiration of Lucas, we have let it go. I wish him a nice retirement.
Do I want an fourth indy film. by emeraldboy	Oct 6th, 2006 06:36:56 AM
yes but i do realise a couple of things fords age and the fact he is not the big draw he once was are the two big barriers to getting this thing and living in the age we are in, pulling off a a movie about a thorn with christ flesh on it will be hard one to do. He maybe a greedy bastard, lucas, but he breathed new life into the effects industry along with king cameron and zemeckis and others. LUcas should if he wise, hand the baton over and retire to the Skywalker ranch. Permanently
George Lucas blah blah blah by triplefive	Oct 6th, 2006 07:11:27 AM
blah blah blah Lucas blah blah blah Jar Jar blah blah blah blah blah hack blah blah
People are bashing Lucas????? by Orionsangels	Oct 6th, 2006 07:16:04 AM
Nooo, that can't be. Please...be predictable.
Prequel haters ruined by Prequel experience!!! by Orionsangels	Oct 6th, 2006 07:20:39 AM
If a lot of you hadn't hated the Prequel's so much. I would have liked the films more, but you haters influenced my view on the films. If most of you would have liked them. I wouldn't have noticed all the negative stuff you haters were pointing out. So what does this all this mean? If the Internet didn't exist. The prequels would be considered classics!
Orionangels by ATARI	Oct 6th, 2006 07:29:41 AM
Your funny, you made me laugh.
Oh, and one more thing... by Mr Gorilla	Oct 6th, 2006 07:41:30 AM
After a summer sitting through Superman Returns, X3, Da Vinci Code, MI3, Poseidon, Pirates... after all those bad/boring films, Revenge of the Sith doesn't look so bad. I guess making a blockbuster that's exciting, impactful, and got a bit of thought behind it... doing all that isn't so easy.
if it were up to me I'd let spielberg do darabonts by misnomer	Oct 6th, 2006 07:44:39 AM
indy 4 script, and let lucas work on his other "macguffin" whilst the berg is filming. that way we get indy 4 and indy 5-one by the berg, one by lucas. job done. that said, I'm really interested in knowing what lucas' concept is-but if they don't start soon, then I doubt it will ever happen. they need to start filming mid-2007, whether the scripts finished or not!
LUCAS TO STOP MAKING MOVIES, FOCUS by durhay	Oct 6th, 2006 08:37:22 AM
ENTIRELY ON CHILDHOOD RAPING
Star wars... by emeraldboy	Oct 6th, 2006 08:57:10 AM
The first two films are classics, the third one well, it is the weakest link and by that stage the cast were all bored to hell with and wanted to move on. Star wars kept calling its creator and lucas ignored those calls. If you look at the matrix trilogy. the 4 year gap between and other matters in the wachowski brothers private lives meant that they were unable to produce a script that knocked those films out of the ball park. What we got in the end were two films that failed to live up to the orignal movie. no questions were answered in the final movies and they left you with a feeling of what the fuck was that about. In the end they kind of hinted at a fourth movie. You had to buy($$$$) into the Matrix buy all the films, the animatrix, the videogames etc. If you want to watch the matrix trilogy ten times over go ahead. Seeing these films once was enough. Back to George, again like the Wachowski brothers, the length of time it took Lucas to come back to his saga, meant that his writing faculties were drained. He was never a good writer. With attack of the clones and revenge of the sith he clearly demonstrated that as a action director he is one of the best. The technical brilliance was breath-taking. He may not be an acting director or a very comptent writer, But this is the same guy who gave us one of the greatest modern opening titles in the history of modern Sci-fi. The Fans wet their pants when George announced the prequels and then threw the prequels back at him in his face, when they failed to meet the mark of the originals standard. These were the same folk who nitpicked when George decided to fix the original star wars movies by making them look better.
Retired My Ass! by The Disco Plumber	Oct 6th, 2006 09:16:38 AM
He's working on a Special Edition of the Zapruder film right now... http://www.spoilerama.com/?q=n ode/17
Retired My Ass! by The Disco Plumber	Oct 6th, 2006 09:22:04 AM
www.spoilerama.com/?q=node/17
sentient by Almost_Human	Oct 6th, 2006 09:24:40 AM
Nice call on the economics of technology, but make no mistake about Edison being a good guy: He was possibly a bigger money whore and autocrat than Lucas. While George is guilty of being a bad storyteller, it really pales in comparison to some of the shit Edison did to George Westinghouse in the battle over alternating current.
I agree that going to the theater today... by abominate	Oct 6th, 2006 09:54:46 AM
...is usually an overpriced, underwhelming experienced, and that I have soured on attending movies on a regular basis. It's like buying a music album--you usually do not know what you're paying for in advance and you can't get your money (or time) back if you're disappointed. At least with a DVD, there's second market and you can sell it used or give it to yer local library. There's a lot to be said for good old fashioned, people-driven stories on the big screen. I think only morons would disagree that Empire was the best Star Wars film, and that the prequels, even at their best, failed to impress anyone. Home video is the way to go. When I do attend the cinema, it is usually to see a huge event movie I've known about in advance and I know will at least be fun (like a Spider-Man entry, Die Hard, Rocky, LoTR). And when I do go, I'm sneaking in two pocketsful of candy from the drug store. Otherwise, I'm hitting the library and Family Video.
Right on, beastie! by tucson	Oct 6th, 2006 09:59:16 AM
I love Star Wars...and I suspect that means the "spirit" of it, not necessarily the clunky execution of the prequels. With a number of good SW novels that have been published and some excellent fan fiction, I think there are those who are very devoted to it and could do the SW universe great service by writing for a television series. Now whether Lucas would let such upstarts slip through his fingers and show what could really be explored in the framework he set is another matter entirely...
Has anyone seen some of these... by abominate	Oct 6th, 2006 10:03:21 AM
...fan-made Star Wars movies online? They're actually quite good, right down to the rotoscoped lightsabers. I'm willing to guess most of them could write a better script than Lucas. A monkey could write better dialogue than "No, because I'M so in love with YOU." Here's hoping someone else takes Star Wars into a future where it regains the charm, majesty, and wonder of the original trilogy in their original formats. Oh, off-topic. X-Men last stand wasn't so bad second time 'round on DVD.
AOTC was the only truly "bad" film in the new trilogy by JimmyLoneWolf	Oct 6th, 2006 10:03:58 AM
It had a terrific final 45 minutes, but the rest was garbage. The city-planet was obviously lifted wholesale from The Fifth Element, Yoda's light-saber duel was poorly conceived and didn't fit the character, and the love story (and Hayden Christianson's acting in particular) stopped the movie dead in its tracks. Honestly, I think TPM "feels" the most like a Star Wars movie out of the three films. This visually amazing film was saddled with only a few REALLY OBVIOUS, REALLY CONSISTENT flaws (can you guess what they are?) that obscured how cool much of that film was, while ROTS was the all-around "best" film in the trilogy...despite a more random assortment of flaws...including the "Anakin swears his allegiance to Darth Sidious scene"...which fell flat no matter how much you love Star Wars (and I do, quite a bit). So I don't think attacking ROTS as a "piece of shit" is fair at all. In fact, its almost as unfair as Lucas ripping everyone off by releasing the original "un-enhanced" films 2 years late (and in apparently horrible condition). The Star Wars prequels, while unquestionably a step down on a pure storytelling level, are better than people give them credit for, while Lucas' behavior is altogether WORSE than people give him credit for. His attitude stinks...and thats the truth, whether people like it or not. Wolf Out.
All the prequels were "BAD"... by Batutta	Oct 6th, 2006 10:05:10 AM
...just in varying degrees, with ROTS the least bad of the lot.
Hopefully, in a short time, we'll come to an agreement by scrivener	Oct 6th, 2006 10:34:32 AM
In other words "Speilberg's ideas are too intricate, meaningful, and interesting for me. I only like make steaming piles of shit, so fuck it."
George Lucas is out of touch by United States	Oct 6th, 2006 10:38:40 AM
I think the man is totally clueless, and out of touch. I can just imagine Speilberg. I'm sure he sticks up for his pal in public, but behind the scenes, he's shaking his head in frustration over Lucas dragging his feet on Indy 4. Lucas needs to step back and let Steven make the movie he wants, while Harrison Fors is still young enough to wear leather pants without his Depends showing through!
Mr Gorilla - Right on about what's + about the prequels by PhilConnors	Oct 6th, 2006 11:41:13 AM
The best thing about the prequels was the deftness with which Lucas conceived the conversion of Republic to an Empire (and the unhappy coincidence w/ current events). And it says a lot that Lucas was so unable to deal with the personal stories of his characters and really say anything interesting at all about them. In this way the Prequels are pretty much the exact opposite of the original trilogy - the original trilogy dealt in simplistic, idealistic, good vs. evil, us against them, terms, with heroes and villains. The prequels, the majority of the time, lacked a single hero to root for. Neither side was "good," because they were both nearly always playing into the Palpatine's hands. Qui Gon, Obi Wan, Yoda, Anakin, etc., essentially spend the entire prequel trilogy looking like dumbasses and fighting for the wrong side. So aside from the hack job Lucas did of dialogue and direction, I think he made some miscalculations on a very fundamental level - and perhaps he couldn't help it. Just as it seems that he is more of a businessman now than a film maker, perhaps he is just more interested in politics than personal stories. But I honestly cannot understand how people think that the prequels have the same "spirit" as the originals. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Lucas by emeraldboy	Oct 6th, 2006 11:49:25 AM
I think that all the trouble with lucas starts at a certain point and that point was when he decided to show the first star wars film to his peers. they included depalma, copolla and scorcese and the berg. They all hated the first film except the berg who said this will make a hundred million, star wars went on to make more than that as we know. The final tally is 300 million dollars. Lucas turned his back on filmmaking and over saw production on the other two movies. Empire is one of the greatest sci-films ever made. The third one has the weakest story of all to be frank. In the world of Star Wars people have rightly attacked lucas the screenwriter who learned nothing after 20 years absence. This is a man who has over a billion dollars in his bank account and is surrounded by a group of yes men. You dont say no to george Lucas. He is the lord of Skywalker Ranch. He created Jar jar, you didnt like Jar Jar and we all hate Jar Jar well tough shit, said george its my saga and i invented it, i created the characters. Those who knock lucas, forget one thing star wars is all about spectacle, sound and music. Lucas has gone back to star wars becuase he is a perfectionist. He hated the experience of making the first film so much, he watched the whole thing fall apart in front of his eyes. Despite sprucing up the effects on film one. Lucas always felt that it wasnt his film trilogy. With the multimillions he got from Mechandising as well as cutting the deal that allowed him to install his sound system in almost all theatres. He formed Lucasfilm and bought back the rites of the Star Wars saga from fox and when he had the rites back he decided to rebuff the sound. Then 1997 came along and all three films were re-released back into cinemas in lucas vision. The geeks went mad. How dare you wreck our beloved star wars movies. Lucas with over a billion in the bank, decided then to get to work on the prequels. That there was no one there beef up the screenplays, is indicitive of the point I made earlier about the size of Lucas Ego. This is a man who has his own fire station and wine valley. This was all before Lucas moved his operation to san francisco. Lucas best none sci-fi is and will remain, american graffiti. Lucas has never really listened to anyone other than the berg. With the amount of money Lucas accrued of the past two decades, why should he feel he has to listen to anyone especially talk backers or star wars fans.
I wish i was blown out of proportion by GASFOODMURDER	Oct 6th, 2006 11:54:53 AM
lucas molesterd my childhood
Confession... by StarBlitzer	Oct 6th, 2006 12:43:40 PM
Until last week, I had only seen Episodes II and III (I see you snickering, asshole...fuck off!) I'm going to see the rest in the coming months and ONLY THEN decide if I'll join the "Lucas Sucks" contingency, aka the Dark Side of the TB (in the meanwhile, fuck Giorgi just to be on the safe side ^_^)
Your name is "Starblitzer"... by abominate	Oct 6th, 2006 02:30:01 PM
...and you've never seen Star Wars or Empire Strikes back?!
OT: may i suggest by ikkyu	Oct 6th, 2006 03:36:51 PM
unless it's already been suggested, in which case i second the motion, that we all go to the Transformers site (see banner ad above) and submit MCMLXXVI's immortal line "Damn you, Michael Bay." for inclusion in Optimus Prime's dialogue in the upcoming childhood-molestation. er, movie. now back to the topic at hand: George Lucas stole my childhood's candy, and gave it carob bars.
prequels by Moshi	Oct 6th, 2006 04:08:15 PM
I have to make a public statement, the star wars prequels are as good as, if not better than the first three. Even the Phantom Menace, which is a better film than return of the Jedi. had the six films been released in chronological order, you whining tossers would all be hailing phantom menace as the greatest thing in the universe, & complaining about a new hope. It's time passing than blinds you all.
YAY for USC, they deserved it by godzillasushi	Oct 6th, 2006 04:39:36 PM
bunch of spoiled rich kids from down here in so cal get money.
Thanks for the kind words Uncapie by R.C. the "Wise"	Oct 6th, 2006 05:08:07 PM
It might have been him. If he was extremely charismatic and looked like a black Clark Gable, then it was him. I'm technically a member of the Los Angeles Chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen so I know that there are about two dozen of them live in Los Angeles County alone. All of them are outstanding men. Whenever this film is made, I hope they pick actors with character, rather than some hot names. The thing about the Airmen were that they truly were the best of the best. Each of those men were college educated, most were lettermen athletes (including my grandfather who played Basketball and ran track for UCLA, along with his roommate Jackie Robinson...Jackie also played baseball as well :^P )and all tested at the highest level on all military strategy exams. I could never come close to achieve what those men did, especially given the circumstances they dealt with. Only several Japanese squadrons can relate to the intolerance they dealt with while fighting for a country they loved but did not love them.
Lucas has a bullfrog neck by alienindisguise	Oct 6th, 2006 05:15:57 PM
RIBBIT!
Excellent point PhilConnors by Redbox	Oct 6th, 2006 06:22:41 PM
Political intrigue was the only good thing in the new flicks.
that you tube video was so great by ubersnarf	Oct 6th, 2006 07:38:30 PM
its bad when the You Tube video is better than Episodes 1 & 2 put together. Best line from mocked up Lucas: "This is the digital age. We have computers... and computers... and electricity and money! We don't need a script!"
INDIANA JONES AND THE COLOSTOMY BAG OF INDECISION by Harry Weinstein	Oct 6th, 2006 08:43:48 PM
I have a headache.
Close Encounters of the Archaeological Kind by ObiWan Knievel	Oct 7th, 2006 05:38:38 PM
I agree with Quint, Lucas (I know you're reading this!). Hand Indy over to the Spiegle-man for one last film. He can handle it all by his wonesome.
Regarding Indy 4 and Lucas' "lack of enthusiasm" by Wonder Man	Oct 8th, 2006 04:06:13 AM
SO. DON'T. FUCKING. MAKE. IT. Leave it alone, walk away. All of you: Lucas, Spielberg, Ford, et al. Harrison's the only one who may/may not benefit. It's a waste of everybody's time. Steven, in particular, has much better stuff to do. It's an 80's thing, guys. 1981, 1984, 1989. The Indiana Jones trilogy was a specifically 1980s phenomenon (don't come at me with that shitty TV series) and should be left that way, where it will continue to be remembered fondly. These decade-later sequels never work; Lucas, of all people, should know that. And, NO, George I'm not talking about money. Ohhh crap, I've just talked him into doing it, haven't I?
R. C. the "Wise" that was him! by Uncapie	Oct 8th, 2006 01:50:43 PM
I remember he had these movie star, leading man looks. I talked his ear off for an hour on the last day the Museum Of Flying was open. What a fascinating man to listen to! It was off to the side of the British Hurricaine I got to sit in near the front of the entrance. I will always remember that moment.
Haters of Lucas by Almost_Human	Oct 8th, 2006 01:58:43 PM
I get the idea some of you don't like George. Why so hostile? Because he got money from you and delivered sub-par goods? He got money from a lot us, but not at gunpoint. True, he is more businessman than artist (especially his dreadful writing). True that on a personal level, he comes off as a whiney little bitch or a smug autocrat depending on which interview you read. But don't you see that by getting angry, you make your blood pressure go up and then one day BOOM anuerism and you are left in a semi-veggitative and palsied state that gets aggitated whenever you hear John WIlliams music and George Lucas is left just as he is now: a mediocore talent (at best, I'm being generous) with more money than artistic merit who is so insecure as to surrond himself with yes-men. Relax. It'll give you longer not to buy any more of his products. If you feel the need to repeatedly spike your blood pressure, save it for important things, like the Politics section of any paper or website. Thanks.

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