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FIR... aw, crap by CCRmy of One	Oct 4th, 2006 03:53:58 PM
What I don't understand is why do I have to wait THREE months between each Ultimate issue? Heck, DC can produce a "52" every week, I can't get Ultimates on time? And I'm still holding my breath for Ultimate Hulk Vs Wolverine zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
comics by dead youngling	Oct 4th, 2006 03:55:28 PM
yeah
The Nightly News by vivavitalogy	Oct 4th, 2006 03:56:01 PM
I can't wait for it any longer!
First? by Mr. Anderson	Oct 4th, 2006 03:56:57 PM
If not, oh well. Last week sure was a good one for Ultimate Marvel Zombies like myself. Hell, I'm even loving the hell out of Civil War, and it seems to me that the people who can't stop bitching about that UBER EVENT need to remove the sticks from their asses. But ULTIMATES 2 is Marvel's actual big event title this year, they just don't seem to realize it.
Never been this high up before by LawyersGunsandFunny	Oct 4th, 2006 04:03:11 PM
Neat.
What the fuck? by gavdiggity	Oct 4th, 2006 04:19:31 PM
No mention of the new Dr. Strange series? @ssholes...
Mother Hydra's Mythos Rhymes cover image is COCKBLOCKED by Squashua	Oct 4th, 2006 04:32:31 PM
I guess that site doesn't allow direct linking. I've e-mailed the site's admin to let him know that he shouldn't be such a hardass.
Wait a minute...! by superhero	Oct 4th, 2006 05:03:21 PM
You’re the one who read the whole Clone Saga and loved it and I’m the asshat??? Wow, put yer Spider-blinders back on ‘cause that thing suuuuckkked webfluid!
Man, I gotta go to the comic book store. by rev_skarekroe	Oct 4th, 2006 05:04:24 PM
I haven't been in like, a month and I'm not qualified to post about a damn thing in this week's column.
RezE11even by Bootskin	Oct 4th, 2006 05:05:08 PM
BWAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHA!!!! Clone >tears< Saga....AMAZING..>tearswipes tears from eyes< >sighahem
Gosh, what a bunch of grouches... by loodabagel	Oct 4th, 2006 05:06:35 PM
Just about one good thing was said, total. Just lighten up once the all of us cogs get here, else you're in for a world of hurt. Like I said I last week, that was a good issue of Spiderman. It got downright spooky towards the end. Also amazing is that there at this moment, a total of three Spidey Civil War Tie-ins and I am enjoying them all. How crazy is that? In fact, despite what that nifty page header says, Spiderman is kicking all kinds of ass right now. Ultimate's doing the goddamn Clone Saga and kicking ass at it and Spiderman Loves Mary Jane is at the single best issue I've seen since issue 4 or 5.
wow... by Bootskin	Oct 4th, 2006 05:08:01 PM
where'd the rest of my post go? oh well. You are correct RezE11even. Clone saga was AMAZING, as was Most of Rob Liefeld's run, and the first 4 issues of Youngblood,Cyberforce,and Super-pro! (Football super-hero, YES!) of course, you know, I am making fun of you.
Finally, some love for Captain America! by GiggityGoo	Oct 4th, 2006 05:48:33 PM
Brubaker has had to deal with two crappy crossovers so far in his tenure on the book, "House Of M" and now "Civil War". And both times, he's written great stories that stood out with awesome characterization. Cap is the only book I still read (apart from Planetary trades), and it hasn't been this good in ages. Make Mine Marvel!
Thanks, Bug! by ryall	Oct 4th, 2006 05:55:18 PM
That was a great review of our Great and Secret Show, both in terms of sheer length and the great things you said about the book and the work Gabriel and I are doing on it. I have to say, adapting that amazingly dense, detailed and lengthy novel into comic book form--even over 12 issues--has been maybe the greatest writing challenge I've ever had, but I've been helped a lot by Gabe's stunning art and Clive's freedom in taking his book and making it into something a bit different. Hopefully it gets people to pick up the original novel and see how the two compare (hint: the book's better). And for anyone who might wanna check it out and can't find the early issues (1 and 2 are sold out), I'd be remiss if I didn't plug the TPB (Volume 1) coming on October 25, complete with a new intro from Clive. Anyway, thanks. And to you, too, Psynapse. Happy it's working for you, too.
need brief Civil War explanation... by Calico Pete	Oct 4th, 2006 06:11:52 PM
...for the following: why on earth did Spidey need to unmask publicly? Is this ever explained? Why can't heroes just register w/the govt and keep their identities hidden from the public at large? I mean, if CIA agents and undercover cops are allowed to keep their identities private (note: private is not the same as secret) why are superheroes forced to unmask publicly? Or was it just Spidey that "had" to do this?
And another thing... by Calico Pete	Oct 4th, 2006 06:18:49 PM
Am I the only one who thinks superheroes referring to themselves as such are arrogant? This is rampant throughout Civil War. "Bbbbut... we're SUPERHEROES!" says someone or other. Oh yeah? Get over yourself bub. You're superpowered, but it's not up to you to call yourself a hero. Arrogant. Egomaniacal. Self-promoting. That's what Civil War has turned every hero into. Just as ridiculous, self-acknowledging villains. I can understand using the word "criminal", but "villain"? Doesn't that mean you have to think of yourself as... sheesh, it's so ridiculous I can't even go through the thought exercise here. Am I alone on this?
havent read the comic by Darth Kal-El	Oct 4th, 2006 06:35:15 PM
but like psynapse i loved the novel! im wating for trade(no offnse to chris) and im glad to hear there is a volume forthcoming.hey how about doing a q and a for us? if your interested the cogs(sort of a talkback sub-group in case your not familiar)would love to pick your brain!
The Great And Secret Show by Lovecraftfan	Oct 4th, 2006 06:36:27 PM
Maybe I'll give it another try, but the first time I tried to read it I could not get into it at all.
Ultimates 2 vs. Civil War by keepcoolbutcare	Oct 4th, 2006 07:04:37 PM
superhero on Millar... "Sure, there’s some neat stuff in here like the Hulk mutilating and punching an opponent’s head off..." That was all Hitch, or at least an Ellis swipe. They have Hawksmoor throwing the same punch and getting the same result in an early Authority issue. it's kinda fun to notice the dovetail between Civil War #4 and The Ultimates(Vol. 2) #12. in one, Thor is a cloned psychopath who kills for the man. the other, he's(finally?) proven to be all he said he was, Son of Odin, a pacifist with a big scary hammer, a Socialist who rages against the military industrial complex, "here he comes to hammerslap" his evil half brother. in one, Cappy gets the shit slapped out of him by a pampered punk. the other, he's a non-witty-remark havin' savior of the U.S. in one, longstanding characters unexpectedly defy years (and years) of backstory and characterization, all for nonsensical ultraviolence to keep the masses entertained. the other, a now long-running, stunning re-imagining of the original Averngers, is nothing but the good 'ol ultraviolence that feels earned due to all the attention paid to backstory and character development in previous installments.
Agreed on those Civil War tie-in's. by dregmobile	Oct 4th, 2006 07:28:40 PM
Loving ASM. Good review on JLA #2. It's good, fun even ... but feel it can be better. I must be patient. So when the Blue Beetle trade hits, will it be worth getting? Coz I like the character and I like the art ... but I was too afraid to part with my Australian dollars after the pitiful IC. Calico Pete, interesting points. I guess Parker going public was more sending a message out to other superheroes, not necessarily for them to do the same and go public, but rather to get on Iron Man's side and not Cap's. And my hypothethis is proving true ... the Vogs ARE from the X dimension ... fascinating ... tweaks settings on Vog Assualt Rifle
awesome graphic by Darth Kal-El	Oct 4th, 2006 07:34:27 PM
at the top of the column guys! keep them coming
I hate Bendis by dtpena	Oct 4th, 2006 07:36:21 PM
Ohh how I hate that guy, can't read more than 10 pages of his trying-to-be-edgy-mature-and-r ebel writing. I was ready to like him, but well... I think I've read too much Vaughan-Morrison-Ellis greatness to like any other level of reading.
its funny how by Darth Kal-El	Oct 4th, 2006 07:48:40 PM
vog is one person posting under a freshly created screen name to 'counter','oppose',i dont know what...8 different individuals who call themselves cogs.i guess like i told the rest of the crew in the mansion-imitation is the best form of flattery. dimension x or dimension whatever,im glad were keeping it interesting in here
I look forward to the 15 or so deleted scenes by dregmobile	Oct 4th, 2006 09:34:59 PM
on that disk.
Hey, Darth Kal-El by ryall	Oct 4th, 2006 10:06:56 PM
Sure, I'd go for any Q&A or whatever you had in mind. Drop me a line at chris@idwpublishing.com. Thanks for the nice comments, too.
Man... by El Vale	Oct 4th, 2006 11:48:28 PM
Not even Morrison would respond to a bad review the way you did, Jar Jar...what a douche.
awesome chris! by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 12:38:39 AM
ill send you an email shortly seeing if we can get something going...provided its ok with the @$$holes. in my excitement at having a 'real' industry pro in the board i completely went behind their backs and since this is their column i want to make sure no toes are being stepped on. sorry @$$es! with that said how would everyone feel about a cog hosted q and a with the very gracious mr. ryall?
I respect that kid from the rez... by loodabagel	Oct 5th, 2006 09:31:33 AM
He's been telling everyone how great the clone saga is for a month or so and everyone just keeps pissing on him. He's a brave man and I respect him for that.
comic site recommendations by tony5000	Oct 5th, 2006 10:37:39 AM
can anyone recommend any other good comic review sites? this one doesn't seem to speak to my interests, and i perceive there to be a built-in attitude against Marvel.
There's no built-in attitude, but... by Squashua	Oct 5th, 2006 10:42:57 AM
You can Google for CBR or Newsarama or Wizard Entertainment.
I Heart She-Hulk by The Cabin Boy	Oct 5th, 2006 11:14:39 AM
The Ms. Marvel cross-over is the only one I find a bit tedious. Maybe the Young Avengers/Runaways to a lesser degree... But Wolverine, Spidey, Cable & Deadpool, Captain America -- all have been great reads (something I think even a few of the @$$holes who all say they despise CW will admit???) -- and yet all anyone wants to do is complain. Sheesh.
built-in attitude by tony5000	Oct 5th, 2006 11:22:03 AM
it may not be as vast as i perceive it, but, for instance, it's not so great when the reviewer tells you ahead of time he is going to hate the issue of Civil War he's going to review or when someone like Ambush Bug reviews a book written by Bendis (hasn't happened for awhile) and you know he's going to have the same complaints. i'm not trying to say they are wrong for having their opinions, but after reading this site for 2 years it seems that more times than not i can see a predictable pattern.
re: Built-in attitude? by The Heathen	Oct 5th, 2006 12:42:59 PM
It's not as vast as you perceive it really. Honest. Take Bug's Cheap Shots for Amazing Spidey and Captain America. He liked those. Shit, Bendis has even gotten I believe around 4 or 5 GOOD reviews in a row. What about the ass kickery of Astonishing X-Men or Runaways? Name an @$$hole who doesn't like Dan Slott? There's plenty of good stuff from everywhere, but there's also some bad, bad, very bad tripe that they try to FORCE FEED us cough Civil War cough
@$$holes, cogs and talkbackers, help a brotha out! by nofate	Oct 5th, 2006 12:46:19 PM
Being a new parent and going into our 2nd year of marriage, I hardly have time to read comics as much as I used to, or like to. I still buy my regular stack, 5 or 6 per week, but what I've been doing is waiting for the current arc to end and read it in one sitting when I can, then repeat for the next story. Lately though, with so many sites now doing reviews and spoilers, when I get around to reading the actual comic, it kinda loses the impact and I'm seriously considering dropping my hobby /addiction altogether. I know is my own damn fault and I should just stay away from the spoilers, but damn it, any geek worth their long box cannot wait 4 or 6 months to know what happenned. So, what should I do fellow talkbackers? My kid's savings are at stake here!
nofate by Shigeru	Oct 5th, 2006 01:42:36 PM
Blow all the money on crack. Or wait... wait for the trades! And buy more indie books.
congrats on the kid nofate by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 01:45:10 PM
the idea of wating to read things all in one sitting is a good one but i see your dilemma. what i was doing myself is reading the monthly when it came out and then picking up the trade for the arc to re-read it. but since money is an issue that might not be as viable an option. i dont know man u have me stumped. i dont have a kid or a wife but im still pretty busy so i try to do my geek shit in between whatever else im doing. i.e.- i work in a call center so i read comics and post on the board in between my calls.i dont know where u work but reading during your lunch is one idea
my friends' just had a kid by Shigeru	Oct 5th, 2006 01:55:25 PM
and on our congrats bouquet I wanted to write "CONGRATS ON FUCKING" but the wife wouldn't let me...... :(
nofate by The Heathen	Oct 5th, 2006 02:33:03 PM
Trade waiting might be better for you financially. Amazon is usually cheaper too. Instead of paying $3 an issue, $18-$20 for an arc, you could by the same thing anywhere from $10-$15 in trade form. I know it's hard to do that sometimes, but it is what it is. And if you can't bite the bullet and not do that, then try to cut down on you books you get in single issues. Try for quality ones that are slow like AXM, All Star Supes, Ultimates, Shaolin Cowboy, etc. What else? try this site for advanced orders: http://www.g-mart.com/ I get a lot of books from there. A $3 issue is usually around $2.25 if you order it in advance. Hope that helps and, er, congrats on fucking?
theres no way by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 02:34:01 PM
the tb can be this silent the day after the Lost premiere!***Spoilers*** cmon guys the others 'real' houses?! the hydra?!! what was the stephen king book being read and does it tie in? how do they know all about jack? wtf is going on? my penis was both frustrated and impressed!
i didnt want to say it by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 02:38:22 PM
with people from the industry obviously on the board but the downloading option is also a good one. heres what i suggest as the trade off for the dling-get the single issues through the dl so u can be up to date and then pay back by gettting the trade.
"my penis was both frustrated and impressed!" by The Heathen	Oct 5th, 2006 03:23:53 PM
yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
Damn, I didn't know ya all cared! by nofate	Oct 5th, 2006 04:27:57 PM
Thanx for all the advise and smart ass remarks (thanx Psynapse I might just consider it. lol) But again the Heathen strikes gold again. I've been mulling that option for a while so it looks like the way to go. Who says nothing good comes out of the talkbacks other than geeks banding together to gang up on someone. Oh, wait...;^)
of course we care by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 04:33:42 PM
weve had words in the past but we dont hold grudges(at least i dont but its mostly because im busy holding my giant wang) :-) anyways man yeah the heathen is the shiznit and i second the amazon suggestion.and hey we banded together originally to PREVENT the ganging up and other negative bullshit that is the usual for these boards but now its all about the breads baybee!
Re: Lost by nofate	Oct 5th, 2006 04:35:19 PM
I know this is the comics talkback but Darth started it. I fucking love that show! I even got my wife hooked on it. Last nite she got mad cuz the baby wouldn't go to sleep so she ended up bringing him down to watch it with us. It is so well executed and engaging it keeps bringing you back. No other show has ever made me look up song lyrics to see what it might have to do with the plot. Screw the nay sayers, this is the best show on TV right now.
of course i started it by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 04:47:47 PM
its not just comics in this here talkback nofate. its about anything an everything that we enjoy and we try to keep it going all week,in fact we have been since last year. thats why its so important to keep the trolls and such out of here. yeah man lost rules but it also sucks how it keeps giving us little tidbits but not the full reveal we all want! what do u think the stephen king book means? which book is it? any thoughts
Tales of the Zombie! by CaptainCosmos	Oct 5th, 2006 05:03:54 PM
Buzz, thanks so much for this review! As a child of the 70's I have a special place in my heart for the mag-size black & whites. I had several issues of books like The Punisher, Master of Kung-Fu, and yes...Tales of the Zombie. One of the cool things about this format (co-published by Warren press, I believe) was that at the larger trim size, they were exempt from the restrictions of the comic book code. But at the same time, they didn't have labels of "Suggested for Mature Readers" on them, so a 12 year old kid like myself could pick them up at the local drugstore, and neither the kindly shopkeeper nor my Mom had any clue about the level of violence and lasciviousness that I was hungerly consuming. Check em out, these things were so lurid and violent! I still remember picking up issue 7 of TOTZ during a train ride from Maine to Boston with my Mom, and reading that thing cover to cover on the trip. Over the next few years, I read it over and over until the cover fell off. Eventually, it was lost, but never forgotten. Almost every page in that book was burned into my brain. So much so that when I went looking for it at Comic Con a few years ago, I recognized it in the racks immediately upon coming across it. And from seeing the first panel again, it was as if I'd only read it yesterday. The old stories by guys like Doug Moench (sp?) and art by Pablo Marcos and others is so over the top and thick with atmosphere...it's like watching a great old 40's horror flick. And point well taken about the difference between Simon Garth and the current trend in Zombies--Garth being a product of voodooism, a slave and a loner, forever seeking peace. I guess that's why, in spite of being a horror movie buff, I've never really jumped on the zombie bandwagon--I like my zombies in the swamp, alone, and wreaking unholy vengeance against those who may have wronged them in life. Whoa...sorry for the trip down memory lane, but to anyone who's never really heard of this title, get the Essential book! And unlike a lot of the other titles in this line that were originally published in color, you're getting to see them as they originally appeared! I checked out the Essential TOTZ last week and they've put in everything but the original ads! Great job, Marvel!
If By Built In Attitude Against Marvel, You Mean... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 5th, 2006 05:19:59 PM
...that I said they were the greatest thing since keg beer for publishing ESSENTIAL TALES O' THE ZOMBIE VOL. 1 (thanks, Captain Cosmos!), then color us guilty! I think we have a built in attitude against crappy comics and dumb decisions and companies placing ego over story and character, but one stupid publishing house is about the same as another...NoFate, no question that having kids does and should change your life. Most people shouldn't do it, but in my opinion, I don't think a person is truly an adult until they're a parent. Now, as far as reading, I wasn't into comics much at the time, but I read every one of the James Bond novels by Iam Fleming, and everything about Sherlock Holmes while pushing Buzz Jr. around the block in his stroller. The kid never slept...may have been the black coffee in the bottle, you think? Also, I remember one time he was sick and would only sleep if I held him, so I read the entire novel THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE in one sitting.
Now you see why I got this name! by simongarth2001	Oct 5th, 2006 05:24:05 PM
Cool character. Gotta love dem zombies.
Hey Hey Hey! by nofate	Oct 5th, 2006 05:59:21 PM
I even got a sympathetic ear from Buzz. Thanx for that. Manchurian Candidate on one sitting? You are a freak good sir. And come on Darth, what fun would it be to know the whole Lost tapestry instead of waiting for it to unfold? That's what makes the show worth watching, for me at least, wait to see what happens next. As far as King's book, I don't know which one it was either. I heard it might've been The Stand, due to the similarities of the story, but the book they were holding was too thin. I think it was Carrie, as Juliet's attitude so far kinda matches. Quiet girl that will go off on you when you push too hard.
i hear u nofate by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 06:03:53 PM
but man i am an impatient bastard when it comes to some things! heathen kept telling me to play through halo 1 and 2(i only play multiplayer) and instead of working my way through the story i wikied the ending. thats my problem with lost-so many new things get added to the question pile every episode that it drives me crazy waiting for the next one. yeah too thin for the stand but i think what the man said has to do with the overall story. something about religious something? dont quite remember. anyways wasnt that shot of****spoilers***** the plane slpitting in the aid just bad ass!!??
HA HA! PEGGED! by Drcool975	Oct 5th, 2006 06:06:48 PM
That tony5000 dude fucking owns you clowns. Marvel bias, indeed.
Owns? For stating the obvious? by nofate	Oct 5th, 2006 06:23:15 PM
You're lost Drcool(worst talkback name I've come across). If you'd frequented this site at all you know the @$$holes review what they want and talk shit on what other reviewers praise. I've come to accept that, being a Marvel zombie and all, but still love to argue with them. Try IGN, they have such a crush on all things Marvel even I feel embarrassed after reading their reviews.
i just went back and reread tony5000 posts by Darth Kal-El	Oct 5th, 2006 06:37:54 PM
and he didnt seem to come in here trying to 'own' anybody. i guess Dr.lame just needed an excuse to say something stupid. i percieve a built in attitide towards normal conversation dr.lame.
LOST stuff, so… SPOILERS by The Heathen	Oct 5th, 2006 06:50:07 PM
When the plane split apart in mid air like that, it was just so freakin awesome, but then I couldn't even digest it before Henry, Ben, whatever his name is, is yelling orders to go do this and that and, and for what?!?!?! Ahh!!! And what the friggin frak are they doing with them? And I want to know just a smidge of what happened after the season 2 finale with the big white whatever thing and Desmond, Locke, Ecko, and, and… I'm addicted to this show damn it. "Try IGN, they have such a crush on all things Marvel even I feel embarrassed after reading their reviews." That was funny, nofate. It's like when some people would defend Firefly or Buffy TOO much, even though I loved them so. Oh, and Drcool knows, he's just one of those lonely trolls the poor thing.
Detective 824 by dregmobile	Oct 5th, 2006 06:56:28 PM
This easily restored any flaws the last issue had. I loved the low-key nature of this story, about Penguin going legit to piss off Batman, and then *SPOILER* Batman helping him out in the end. I'm kinda glad I've gone with this and not the Morrison run, if I hear great things about that run I'll grab the trade, but I don't have the dollars to get both. Anyway, the art wasn't as striking as it's been in other issues, yet was perfect for this tale. Having Lois drop by was a nice touch, and getting Zatanna to turn in a favour via some detective work made this an engaging read. Since the issue has no page numbers, page 28 (if you count the ads pages) is the single best page I've scanned in a while (scan because there is not much to read there). It is comic book storytelling at its finest. And the cover ... wow. *** The latest Fantastic 4 was a bit of a letdown. Not much story was advanced here, merely a required domestic between Reed and Sue. The art was a bit flat, and it kind of pissed me off we once again crossed paths with events in the last Spider-man issue. It's bad enough I got to grab all these Civil War tie-ins (minus Ms. Marvel and X-Factor, they look boring), but it adds insult to financial injury to re-read the same scene (it's happened twice now) over two separate titles. I'm talking five pages of dialgue here. Anyway, maybe what pissed me off was Reed ending the issue singing some song I wonder if I've ever heard. *** And Mystery In Space continues to kick ass. A great second issue. Getting more into the detective noir style with Comet searching for his previous body. I found it amusing that the largely discussed Tyrone was page one, this time not overdone, it seemed. Just started The Weird which is looking amusing. MiS is a great mini. Buy it. Or the trade. Another cool cover, too.
Wondering where all the love... by Baytor	Oct 6th, 2006 12:46:28 AM
for Batman #657 supposedly is. Silver Bullet Comics has two reviews of it up, one is fairly lukewarm saying "it's nowhere near as impressive as it should be given the creative team involved" while the other negative one (released today) hammers a lot of the same points I made. Thought maybe it was me just being a grumpy old man (despite being a Morrison fan for 15 years), but I'm just not seeing the love anywhere.
Haven't I read this before? by Mister Mediocre	Oct 6th, 2006 08:36:21 AM
“ESSENTIAL TALES OF THE ZOMBIE VOL. 1 is the greatest thing Marvel has ever published.” Buzz Maverick, didn’t you say the same thing about the Essential Marvel Team-Up book you reviewed two weeks ago? You’re just joking the joke. Brother Voodoo is cool though.
Does anyone else ever get the desire... by rev_skarekroe	Oct 6th, 2006 08:53:06 AM
To buy one of those big crayon boxes and a Marvel Essentials volume and just go to town?
Actually, you know what? by rev_skarekroe	Oct 6th, 2006 09:37:00 AM
Me and the old lady arent' planning on having kids anytime soon, but if we do, I'm totally getting them Marvel Essentials volumes to color. I'm completely serious.
What's going on with Runaways? by loodabagel	Oct 6th, 2006 09:44:16 AM
Xavin's dead in Young Avenges/Runaways, and Chase uh..ran away in the regular title. What the hell's going on? They need a goddamn timeline in those comic books...
Eh, he's a skrull... by loodabagel	Oct 6th, 2006 10:12:21 AM
So he's probably alive anyway. Damn, sorry. It's not a great comic, if that's any consolation.
Prismacolor is the shit son. by The Heathen	Oct 6th, 2006 10:19:28 AM
Really, they are. I love those things. Good memories. rev, that's a good idea, not enough to make me want kids, but whenever I get to be an Uncle, it's Marvel Essentials to color! The timeline for both of the big two is pretty despicable right now. I mean, it's been that way in Marvel, but DC let go recently too. No biggy, just go with it. I figured I'd say that while I was calm. And I wouldn't worry about the CW YA/R mini. I doubt anybody would die in that and remember, "dead is dead" okay? Pfff… I have love for Batman. #657 included. Call me crazy, but I'm liking it and I think it will be rewarding in the long run too. I gotta go with Dreg about the new Detective though, man is it good. I loved it. Thank you Dini. But I'd still pick up Batman before Mystery in Space though.
No, I Said TEAM UP Is The Most Important... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 6th, 2006 12:38:13 PM
Zombie is the greatest. There's a distinct difference. Everyone is starring in their own movie, and in mine, without MTU, I wouldn't have become a compulsive comic reader. ZOMBIE is the greatest because it's kind of a crazy move. I know they have a new ZOMBIE book to market, which is bold enough in itself (although what with WALKING DEAD and others, it's good to see that the comic book industry is still pleasantly, old fashionably derivative, cannibalistic and trendy -- "If they have zombie comics that sell, we'll do zombie comics!"). ESSENTIAL ZOMBIE was a very different kind of ESSENTIAL, even for the ones that reprint the black and whites because of the prose pieces, the promo pages, the photos. As a Marvel Vampire (Marvel still owns my soul but a vampire is capable of independent thought whereas zombies just roam the Earth mindlessly, so I'm one notch up on the undead food chain, I greatly prefer the ESSENTIALS to DC SHOWCASES, but I think with ETOTZ, the editors may have been influenced by some of the things included in such volumes as DC SHOWCASE HOUSE O' MYSTERY. What's great about ETOTZ is that they really made it like the magazines, which were far ahead of their times, some even ahead of our time, and much too cool for kids like me.
Batman #657 by El Vale	Oct 6th, 2006 02:16:24 PM
Book is just not doing it for me. Some very cool little moments here and there, but the main focus is on that STUPID INSUFFERABLE FUCKING KID and i can't stand the fucking storyline. Ill concieved. More later!
Mixed Metaphor by Mister Mediocre	Oct 6th, 2006 02:50:45 PM
Burn in infamy? Hilarious! Live in infamy. Burn in effigy. Thank you r-tard teachers of the public school system that screwed Superhero and us all.
A retraction... by Mister Mediocre	Oct 6th, 2006 03:20:19 PM
My mistake, Buzz Maverick. Thank you for setting the record straight. I would argue that FF is the greatest comic Marvel ever published. It even said so on the cover. I’m not sure what it says now. In Batman 657 I wanted more of Robin vs. the Bat Bastard. Next issue it looks like Batman and the kid will square off. I know it’s Batman’s book but too bad Robin isn’t going to give this kid a mouth full of Jostens.
Hey Darth! Book confirmed! by nofate	Oct 6th, 2006 04:15:28 PM
Don't know if you'll still read this, or if you already know, but I just saw at EW's site that the Stephen King book on the Others book club was indeed Carrie. Now is this a hint of someone's hidden powers (Walt?) or of an impending blood bath ("the next two weeks are going to be very unpleasant"). Fucking-a, can't wait for next week!
re: Batman #657 by The Heathen	Oct 6th, 2006 04:52:37 PM
Well, well then. Vale you should just read my review for Batman #657 over here: http://tinyurl.com/ksz8l I think you may even have some reviews there too. Who'da thunk it? ; )
Wait...What'd I miss? by GreatA'Tuin	Oct 6th, 2006 05:23:16 PM
Huh?
nofate by Darth Kal-El	Oct 6th, 2006 05:32:03 PM
cool thanks for letting me know. im kinda disapointed that it is indeed carrie. when they were talking in the book club about it having religious undertones i was thinking it might be the stand which is a personal favorite of mine or the dark tower which used to be my ultimate favorite but took a dip in the polls after the rushed and disapointing last arc(5-7). wow carrie huh? lots to think about.and dude im here all week
i read it by Darth Kal-El	Oct 6th, 2006 05:45:34 PM
but its been a while.i might go back and re read it tho. does it apply to the world of LOST?
Heath by El Vale	Oct 6th, 2006 06:15:16 PM
I read it, of course i read it! And we agree to disagree.
Essentials TOTZ by Avengerdude	Oct 6th, 2006 06:23:46 PM
This is the first of the Essentials books I've picked up. Used to love the Marvel B&W magazines. They were very hard to find in the UK ( this was the days before specialist comic shops). Only one market stall used to get these and finding one was an event. Lets see Satana and Morbius soon.
I think... by The Heathen	Oct 6th, 2006 06:26:26 PM
I love you all. Have a godd Friday night folks! : )
good, gorram it, GOOD Friday... by The Heathen	Oct 6th, 2006 06:29:34 PM
well, not THE good Friday, but you know, go see Departed or something, or go here http://tinyurl.com/ksz8l
good friday indeed! by Darth Kal-El	Oct 6th, 2006 06:36:04 PM
i got paid today and i only have one more week left in this place and then im on vaycay for a week! and then the new job...anyways psy i really dont remember enough about it. i dont remember how she died altho the menstruation scene is a stand out in my mind. i never saw the movie tho.did they do that in the film?
AvengerDude, Satana Is Coming Up In A Couple Of Weeks.. by Buzz Maverik	Oct 6th, 2006 06:38:05 PM
...along with her brother The Son O' Satan in ESSENTIAL MARVEL HORROR VOL. 1. I agree about ESSENTIAL MORBIUS. We'll be seeing ESSENTIAL MAN-THING (insert your own penis joke) in the next month or so.
ive seen by Darth Kal-El	Oct 6th, 2006 06:46:50 PM
only about 3 minutes of the whole movie so ill take yourr word for it. actually no i wont. now i do want to go out and rent it. its a depalma film right?
keepcoolbutcare by Homer Sexual	Oct 6th, 2006 08:37:16 PM
You hit it on the head. I love Ultimates and the general Ultimates line, and not like Civil War crossoever so much (dropped after first issue). Very well said. Carrie the movie much much better, subtler yet more intense, than book. Credit King's concept but movie way better.
I think by Baytor	Oct 7th, 2006 12:39:43 AM
It says more about the character Juliet considering the journey that Carrie took in the book. Then again, who really knows what all those Dharma fucks are up to. :þ
whoah by Darth Kal-El	Oct 7th, 2006 04:19:55 AM
i may be mistaken but this might be the first time an @$$hole has joined the LOST talk. but then agin baytor likes ennis so he was already cool in my book. in other news-did u guys get to check out the new COG REVIEW PAGE over on the MySpizzle?thoughts?comments?ac colades?
I was just ripping on by Baytor	Oct 7th, 2006 06:24:00 AM
Psynapse's multiple postings :) Love LOST, but I prefer not to think about it too much... can't help think they're totally making it up as they go along if I think about it too hard.
Baytor by El Vale	Oct 7th, 2006 02:38:40 PM
Do not ignore the Darth Kal EL's questions!
Oh and one more thing by El Vale	Oct 7th, 2006 02:39:43 PM
I finally know what your nickname means. I AM BAYTOR!!!!!!!!!!!
go to our myspace page by Shigeru	Oct 7th, 2006 05:12:11 PM
and worship us, slaves!!!!!! *** ***** ********** in other news, Hi.
What was the question? by Baytor	Oct 9th, 2006 12:31:00 AM
I've been skimming, so didn't quite catch whatever it is that I was supposed to catch.
Anybody notice by Shigeru	Oct 9th, 2006 09:34:43 AM
the repeated panels in Detective Comics? Laaaaaaaazy. **** Damn you, Monday...
Hey Darth... by loodabagel	Oct 9th, 2006 09:38:56 AM
Want me to e-mail you my old Batman and Runaways reviews? Also, why don't you add that Teen Titans one I already gave you to the page. In related news, that website freaking rocks!
Shig.. by Thalya	Oct 9th, 2006 11:59:19 AM
Kramer did that in his art for 'Tec a couple of issues ago too. But other than that, I think he should be the permanent artist with Dini. I find his art just enjoyable, and a slight bit on the cheeky side because his Bruce Wayne looks a lot like John Wayne. That, and I think he draws a real swell Riddler.
meh by Shigeru	Oct 9th, 2006 12:28:29 PM
You'd prefer him over JH W III? Crazy talk. I thought he was solid but is Lois Lane really a gigantic-breasted slut? Oh and I noticed whole pages without backgrounds. And that repeated art really bugs me. But um other than that I actually thought it was a great looking book.
Detective #824 and The Departed by The Heathen	Oct 9th, 2006 12:46:49 PM
I'll go and look at it again, but I was too caught up with the story to notice if there were any blank backgrounds are repeated ones. I honestly really dug it. Way better than Morrison's run so far and I LIKE Morrison's run mind you. The Departed is brilliant btw. I hate you if you haven't seen it, especially if you saw that turd movie with the ovrecooked Dane Cook and the hollow Jessica Simpson or that stupid Chainsaw prequel that Harry giggled about. The Departed son.
I know it's been said, but… by The Heathen	Oct 9th, 2006 12:50:19 PM
LUCAS: "We don't want to make movies. We're about to get into television. As far as Lucasfilm is concerned, we've moved away from the feature film thing because it's too expensive and it's too risky. I think the secret to the future is quantity," Lucas said." Nah, it's quality, not quantity George. Any fuckin person knows that. Christ you've let me down.
Oh, and, btw.. by Thalya	Oct 9th, 2006 01:02:28 PM
MYSTERY IN FRICKIN SPACE!!! STARLIN GOODNESS!!! WHO READ???
Got it, haven't read it yet. by The Heathen	Oct 9th, 2006 01:31:30 PM
I was being surprised by the past two issues of CW: Frontline. Roy Allan Martinez and plenty of Ben Urich goodness. Urich is echoing what all of us are, which is basically Jenkins writing him that way. Oh, and I kinda like Speedball.
sshhhh!!!! by Thalya	Oct 9th, 2006 01:33:43 PM
Don't let Quesada hear you!!!
Don't worry… by The Heathen	Oct 9th, 2006 02:03:50 PM
his head is way too far up his ass to hear anytihng that one of the 'couple of hundred' comic fans would have to say. Still, I have plenty, well, mainly nothing but gripe for Civil War, but I liked these past two Frontline issues because it seems that they're about how fucked up the whole thing is and it's not right. Go Jenkins.
Heathen by Shigeru	Oct 9th, 2006 02:59:36 PM
I like Detec' too. It's rad. I was just sayin'. *** I haven't seen the departed yet, but you haven't seen tom yum goong yet so shut it. *** How bout them Gators huh?
hells yeah, Shig… by The Heathen	Oct 9th, 2006 03:23:08 PM
The Gators kicked ass. Don't mess with Totem. That jump pass of his and the saftey we got were awesome. Best game this season. It's cool abot Detec'. I'm actually curious to check it out agian and look at the panels more closely. Dude, I think that Tom Yum Goong was only here a week. Fuggin A. I need some Tony Jaa in my life. But yeah, The Departed owns all sorts of ass. It's worth the hype. My brother almost called someone an 'Irish prick faggot' last night (he loved that line) so, uh, he dug it too. To be fair, the guy was Irish, tiny and a prick AND hitting on our Mother - long story. I'll save you from it. Anyways, The Departed is awesome. Best thing I've seen all year and I've seen Thank You For Smoking, The Descent and Monster House. I'm going to retire for the day gents and lady. Until tomorrow.
rogue mondays by Darth Kal-El	Oct 9th, 2006 05:44:15 PM
we are so busy that i havent been able to get in at all today! saw the departed.awesome! more later!
Departed better than Monster House??? by dregmobile	Oct 9th, 2006 10:31:08 PM
Holy shit!!! Hahah. Sorry. It doesn't open in Sydney for another two days, but I have seen Infernal Affairs and have read Monahan's script. Can't wait. It's #161 at imdb!!! *** Mystery In Space rules my limited finances. And is Tom Yum Goong 'The Protector'? I aim to see that ... I liked Ong Bak. *** Identity Crisis and Blacksad Vol. 1 arrived from Amazon yesterday, and the latter looks fantastic. ... almost finished the first Fables trade atm ...
Departed kicked all kinds of ass... by loodabagel	Oct 10th, 2006 09:10:46 AM
I went with a few pals. One of which actually wanted to go to that anal-rape fest with Dane Overcooked and Jessica Skankson with his pseudo-girlfriend, but I convinced both of them to watch people get their brains blown out instead. Awsome!
Psy-fi! by Thalya	Oct 10th, 2006 10:49:27 AM
Psy-fi! huggles
The Protector = Tom Yum Goong by Shigeru	Oct 10th, 2006 12:05:00 PM
And it's called something even weirder in the UK... It should be called 'tony jaa vs your nutsack'. The winner is obvious.
hee, hee by The Heathen	Oct 10th, 2006 12:38:38 PM
"The winner is obvious."
My eyes! by Thalya	Oct 10th, 2006 12:58:57 PM
All right, who exposed himself?
Furthermore.. by Thalya	Oct 10th, 2006 12:59:20 PM
Was that winner or weiner?
hey guys by Darth Kal-El	Oct 10th, 2006 01:33:46 PM
sorry ive been out of the boards. it has been super busy here at work. hows everyone doing? anyone else think the departed kicked much ass?
oh man and how about Heroes? by Darth Kal-El	Oct 10th, 2006 01:42:39 PM
thats my new favorite show right now. the thing with the cheerleader-motherfucking WOW!! and did u guys notice this ep was written by jeph loeb? im hooked on this cant wait for dvd to marathon it and im so curious for some commentary tracks.
Heroes is quite good. by The Heathen	Oct 10th, 2006 02:40:45 PM
I haven't watched the third ep yet, but am tonight. I like it a lot. I loved Veronica Mars last week too. And last night, the wife said, "you know what show I miss?" Me, "Blade." Her, "Yeah."
i noticed the thing with hiro tooSpoilers by Darth Kal-El	Oct 10th, 2006 03:40:14 PM
and that was probably the only unsatisfying thing for me yesterday. other than that i was pretty impressed. im still waiting for the villian to reveal some sort of powers or something.in the previews and the recap at the begining they continue to refer to the man in glasses as 'ultimate evil'. i wonder if its of the human variety or if hes a special too.
Hello my sweet and happy bitches.... by GreatA'Tuin	Oct 10th, 2006 04:24:15 PM
I love me. I kick four kinds of ass, and innumerable types of buttock of any discription. I just thought you all would like to know this. Oh, right, I forgot to tell you all why I rock. I just got a regulation size pool table for $850. Maybe you should all just give me my winnings over Paypal now. It'll give me more time to write awesomeness over at the CogSpace.
Perfectly random enough. by The Heathen	Oct 10th, 2006 05:40:17 PM
; )
lets see yours then vog by Darth Kal-El	Oct 10th, 2006 05:42:33 PM
seriously.its easy to say 'meh' but lets see you go out and put something even close to what we did online.and if u really dont like it why are u sending me reviews to post on our page?
Micromax was always supposed to lame by mortsleam	Oct 11th, 2006 12:02:02 AM
Other than that I got nuthin'. But insomnia.
The gig is up! by loodabagel	Oct 11th, 2006 09:29:03 AM
Looks like the vogs secret identity has been discovered. Let me just say that he was only using me as a host body and I had no control over my actions when he was in my brain. Luckily, I was able to siphon him out using my Grant Morrison brand brain filterer. I wasn't able to destroy him seeing how he was made out of anti-matter and I didn't have my Reed Richards Destructo-Ray, but he has been banished back to Dimension X.
dimension x by Shigeru	Oct 11th, 2006 09:49:06 AM
isn't that where Krang lives? that wacky living brain dude. "sHrEDDeRRRR!"
That's old school Shig… Krang. by The Heathen	Oct 11th, 2006 10:26:25 AM
Thanks for reading mortsleam.
that is old school by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 01:15:48 PM
i used to have that turtle blimp when i was but a lad.and seriously they need to bring back the old turtle game on xbox live aracade.
i wasnt going to by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 02:23:04 PM
but ive been checking out the heroes comic on nbc.com and its actually pretty cool. it gives u a tiny glimpse of some back story on these characters which is always nice. the art so far has also been quite good since its actually by some industry pros. i especially like the michael turner art of the recap page. i know hes not a fan fave around these parts but i like him.
Turtles by Shigeru	Oct 11th, 2006 02:44:34 PM
Did I ever tell you cogs about the time I met Peter Laird? Nice guy. **** The first TMNT game: THAT DAMN DAM LEVEL (heh)! Where you had to swim around and difuse the underwater bombs... such a pain in the ass. Great game, tho.
you might have shig by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 02:46:54 PM
did u tell him you were nat portman's boyfriend and your friend's friend screwed xzibit's sister?cuz i read an issue of turtles like that
Haha Mr. Spock! by Shigeru	Oct 11th, 2006 02:53:13 PM
I can't stand Turner for the most part...always seemed like a 90's artist. **** Natalie Portman was the one who introduced me to Peter Laird! Actually I met Joe Kubert that day too and I was pretty nervous for that too.
i agree with psy by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 03:05:21 PM
matt wagner is WAY cool. i was a total nervous girl the first time i met him at last year's comin con. this year i handled myself a bit better i think but only because i did some breathing before approaching him
I've 'seen' more than 'met' I suppose… by The Heathen	Oct 11th, 2006 04:37:26 PM
First off? Mark Hamill wearing a brown freakin Jedi robe!!! Well, that's what it looked like to a kid who was 10. Actually, he was wearing a brown robe, but it was for SeaQuest when he guess starred. But to me I thought he was Jedi Master Skywalker. And to stay with the SeaQuest theme, I saw Jonathan Brandis (R.I.P. - My cousin wanted to name a band "The Ghost of Jonathan Brandis", err…) and he was walking to his car (one of those 'new' Mustangs in the early 90's) and he threw his key's in the air, caught them, combed his hair back with his hand and peeled out of the parking lot. I kid you not. And on a completely (?) unrelated note, my friend from high school has more free time than us it seems and made a website called www.sweatbandman.com where he has some retarded, bandwidth wasting videos, but the clencher is that he has an interview with Ben Harper… who just happend to be wearing a fuggin sweat band. Go figure. How about those mashed potatoes? Michael Turner had some good covers on Identity Crisis, but his interior work isn't polished enough. His colorist helps his work as good as it does. I liked the Hiro comic on the website the best. Hiro is my favorite character from Heroes. Beef curtains anyone?
There is seriously... by dregmobile	Oct 11th, 2006 05:00:43 PM
a character called Hiro on Heroes? Somehow this show isn't looking all that hot all of a sudden ...
Yeah, but… by The Heathen	Oct 11th, 2006 05:19:54 PM
he's Japanese. He's Super-Hiro. Har, har, har. Seriously though, don't judge a show or anything for that matter on it's name… unless it's something like, "Uwe Boll Presents…"
dreg by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 05:40:47 PM
yes there is a hiro but like heath ponted out hes japanese. i swear dude the show is awesome! dont let that or the girl in the cheerleader outfit steer u wrong!
i dont have a favorite yet by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 05:51:28 PM
i think if i had to pick it would be a tie between peter and the cop(not sure his name)alhto i also like mohinder. man thats a sweet show. at con i saw a lot of people-henry rollins,jon favreu, john cassaday,joss whedon but i only met a few-altho that few was cool.i met wagner again, david prowse,temura something(the guy that played jango fett)tycho and gabe from penny arcade to name a few. its always cool meeting someone whose work youve followed and who may have had a big impact in your life like was the case for me with mattt wagner. hopefully someday you can all come out and meet all the cogs at some show in the future-that is if the zombie apocalypse doesnt come first
I'm pretty sure the Zombie Apocalypse will come first… by The Heathen	Oct 11th, 2006 06:00:13 PM
Damn zombies. Speaking of, GRINDHOUSE owns my ass like beef curtain ssagging Grandmothers for breakfast. 300 is dope too, btw. Can anyone find the actual trailer for Grindhouse on YouTube? All I get is a bunch of home made shit, to which I've only watched 4 hours of. What have I learned? Kids like shooting guns with blanks.
A tale of morality by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 06:14:26 PM
My wonderful girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married. There was only one little thing bothering me. It was her beautiful younger sister. My prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight miniskirts, and generally was braless. One day "little" sister called and asked me to come over to check the wedding invitations. She was alone when I arrived, and she whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she couldn't overcome. She told me that she wanted to make love to me just once before I got married and committed my life to her sister. Well, I was in total shock, and couldn't say a word. She said, "I'm going upstairs to my bedroom, and if you want one last wild fling, just come up and get me." I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs. When she reached the top she pulled off her panties and threw them down the stairs at me. I stood there for a moment, then turned and made a beeline straight to the front door. I opened the door, and headed straight towards my car. Lo and behold, my entire future family was standing outside, all clapping! With tears in his eyes, my future father-in-law hugged me and said, we are very happy that you have passed our little test.....we couldn't ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family." And the moral of this story is: Always keep your condoms in your car......
the above post by Darth Kal-El	Oct 11th, 2006 06:16:50 PM
did not happen to me-i just cut and pasted the email that was sent to me
Haha. That's great. by dregmobile	Oct 12th, 2006 12:39:09 AM
And I know Hiro is a Japanese name ... just strikes me as a little too tongue in cheek for my liking. But who am I kidding? When Season Uno hits DVD rental shelves, I'll be checking it out for sure. Loved UNBREAKABLE (though can never really swallow Smallville). They canned Aquaman, didn't they?
last by loodabagel	Oct 12th, 2006 09:23:42 AM
I I am last.
no one can outLast a cog by Darth Kal-El	Oct 12th, 2006 01:30:24 PM
we kicked that motherfucking bunny's ass!
last by loodabagel	Oct 12th, 2006 05:08:21 PM
last last last
stal by dregmobile	Oct 14th, 2006 02:12:04 AM
last
You cannot defeat me with spellspeak... by loodabagel	Oct 16th, 2006 10:17:58 AM
I am after all, the one and only Last-Man.
damn typo. i meant: by dregmobile	Oct 23rd, 2006 07:49:06 PM
tsal!
what i meant was by dregmobile	Oct 24th, 2006 12:51:45 AM
tsal!
Last-Man 3: This Time it's Personal... by loodabagel	Oct 24th, 2006 09:45:25 AM
Coming soon to a theater near you.
Last: 4 by dregmobile	Nov 2nd, 2006 07:00:05 PM
This time we really mean it.
ah...last... by blackthought	Nov 8th, 2006 01:15:38 AM
good to be back in my chair.
Last Man 4 by loodabagel	Nov 9th, 2006 09:51:56 AM
The Revenge of Dregmobile
... by blackthought	Nov 11th, 2006 11:03:19 PM
...
Last Man 5... by loodabagel	Nov 21st, 2006 10:01:28 AM
The Attack of Blackthought's ...'s
Is that some sort of superhero? by Squashua	Dec 1st, 2006 04:28:47 PM
Lastman? The last man?

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