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Mr McClane or Mr Clean? First images from LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD turn up online!

First? by ShogunMaster	Sep 30th, 2006 01:43:04 AM
He looks scary old...
NO HAIR ON MCCLANE = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by Elmore Rigby	Sep 30th, 2006 01:44:36 AM
True/
FORST!!! I AM FORST ON THE GREATEST PICTUR by Tempermental	Sep 30th, 2006 01:45:08 AM
The first Die Hard is why I live free inside of my pantaloons where I have a forest commune where Steven Segalls milks moives with three words in the title and where all scripts by David Ayer take shrume. Eric Red is the bestest writer and Harrynoodles, have a cool summer and don't change!
Nice by Kingdaddy	Sep 30th, 2006 01:46:04 AM
Hopefully an older Bruce means a harsher movie. Fuck the tweens, Die Hard is OUR series!
ASLO WISEMAN IS A FORNICATOR! by Tempermental	Sep 30th, 2006 01:48:24 AM
McClane bald is only the first step towards what will poop. Nah, the coat is sluck and if he loses them shoe then we might have a card game here,
Baltimore subbing for DC? by Rybock	Sep 30th, 2006 01:48:46 AM
From a lightpost banner in the background, I take it they are going to try to pass B'more for DC. I know its probably cheaper and easier than using DC, but frankly the two cities, though 40 miles apart, are very, very different. It is like using Chicago to substitute for Manhattan. Love that my hometown is hosting another movie, but this sort of thing bugged me with The Replacements, and I worry it'll take me out of this one, too.
God I hate this title by xannibal	Sep 30th, 2006 01:52:07 AM
Die Hard: Reboot is even better than this. Or Die Hard Battery. Or Die Hardware. I hope the computer stuff isn't as corny as it was in Jurasic Park or in Swordfish when Travola says "pop the firewall".
Actually, I think he looks more like-- by TheGoddamnSiege	Sep 30th, 2006 01:57:38 AM
Vic Mackey, from The Shield.
If he doesn't die...the movie will suck. by DoodlyDingDongTickTock	Sep 30th, 2006 01:58:26 AM
And if "Hi, I'm a Mac" is playing a hacker... I will shoot him in the eye.
He had hair in PERFECT STRANGER by BitterMan23	Sep 30th, 2006 01:59:32 AM
Why the fuck not in this? It looks stupid. put a fucking wig on if you have to, McClane should have hair.
The Big Twist by CaptDanielRoe	Sep 30th, 2006 02:00:35 AM
He's already dead, DoodlyDingDong.
HA! by DoodlyDingDongTickTock	Sep 30th, 2006 02:03:36 AM
you sixth sense mutherfucker.
Live Free or Die Harder With A Vengeance by KillingJoke	Sep 30th, 2006 02:07:25 AM
Surprised it's not a prequel. Willis looks kinda heavy in that third pic. 2nd pic is like a Gilette ad without the caption. The new Mach3 : Live Free or Die Bald
Too late to change directors, I bet. by Vern	Sep 30th, 2006 02:08:34 AM
As a Christian and casual baseball fan I believe in giving the guy a third chance, but my readers have been on my ass. Nobody believes in the Wiseman pulling this one off. I'm not too keen on that hipster leather jacket either, although I'm pleasantly surprised that he's not wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses. Anyway I got a message for Leonard Wiseman. Let's keep the computery matrixy bullshit out of this one, Wiseman. And the techno music. And the blue tinting. And the dungeons and dragons horse shit. And the boredom. I guess we gotta go by the "don't change horses midstream" theory for now, so listen up wiseman. If you let the horse down, you let the world down. You better get through that stream and you better do it with excellence. Not with suckiness, not with passable mediocrity, not with at least it's not as bad as we thought it would be. DIE HARD DEMANDS GREATNESS. Vampires and magical wizardy shit is one thing, nobody cares that you suck at that. But if you suck at DIE HARD you are pissing on our forefathers, on our culture, on our way of life, on our grandmas. Doing a bad DIE HARD sequel is akin to voting for the detainee bill. It goes against the very values our country was founded upon. Every morning, before you go to the set, I want you to picture yourself after making a bad DIE HARD movie, having to explain it to your cute little half-British, half nerd grandchildren. In front of Ben Franklin's grave. "I know, I know, I ruined an American icon forever, but let me explain why it's not my fault." "Stick it up your ass, grandpa. We don't want to hear it. Do you know how often we get beat up at school? You cannot comprehend the pain you have caused us. Now get back in your retirement cage and shut the fuck up." What I'm saying is, DON'T FUCKING BLOW IT, WEIRDO.
I hope it won't suck... by DerLanghaarige	Sep 30th, 2006 02:11:32 AM
...but it's a FOX production, directed by Len Wiseman. There is still a chance that it will be a good one, but I keep my hopes low, so I won't be disappointed, but maybe get huge surprise!
Looks more like a villain than hero... by Capfan	Sep 30th, 2006 02:11:42 AM
And in the film one of the bad guys knocks him out cold pretty early in the film. While he is out the bad guy shave his head as a goof and walks away laughing. Thats why he is bald in this one.
Reminds me of my first days at school in NYC... by Some Dude	Sep 30th, 2006 02:15:59 AM
...watching Die Hard New York, as it was called so the logo could parody DKNY, being filmed in Tompkins Square Park (the bogus elephant fountian scene). Shit, that was a long time ago.
If this movie blows...... by Power_Girl	Sep 30th, 2006 02:20:16 AM
We will force Len to Do that donkey from Clerks 2.
Listen, Die Hard is a trilogy. End of Story. by DoodlyDingDongTickTock	Sep 30th, 2006 02:21:35 AM
It works fine as a trilogy. L.A. to D.C. to N.Y.C. The third one bookends the first fine. The only loose end of John McClane is Holly. But we don't really give a shit. I don't want to see McClane old. Fucker is timeless. Len Wiseman is a piece of shit director that somehow convinced Kate Beckinsale to fuck him. I'm sure making her a "star" helped. Underworld is silly shit like Vern said. Die Hard is GREAT. The first one holds up a whole hell of a lot better than movies made then and just a year ago. It's a goddamn classic.
Yippe-kai-yul brynner motherfuckers. by Det. John Kimble	Sep 30th, 2006 02:21:37 AM
Does this episode involve Hans Gruber's brother Snake-on-a-plane Gruber?
John McTiernan FTW. by Det. John Kimble	Sep 30th, 2006 02:22:52 AM
Die Hard 1 to rule them all.
Yeah, Some Dude. You're old. by DoodlyDingDongTickTock	Sep 30th, 2006 02:25:40 AM
If DH3 was filmed in 1994, and you started college at 18, that would place you at 30. Ew. ZOMG GROSS. 30! and lol at DHNY vs. DKNY. I didn't think about it like that.
It all turns out to be an elaborate robbery by KillingJoke	Sep 30th, 2006 02:31:17 AM
Internet terrorism was just to make everyone forget there's a federal gold reserve across the street. I hope Mc-Clean and that kid from Dodgeball both get thrown off a skyscraper in this one. Not the firehose around the waist bit, the full on Alan Rickman. Because another brother of his will show up and see it as a fitting end.
Let's just pretend this one doesnt count. by IndustryKiller!	Sep 30th, 2006 02:35:54 AM
The same way we think about the Star Wars Prequels. They exist, but arent par tof the story. Wiseman couldnt pull this off in a million years. The Underworld movies are unwatchably bad, dont seem to follow any sort of coherent rhyme or reason, and thats all the directors fault. The only reason those films do well is because high school goth kids would watch you do your taxes if you dressed like a eurotrash vampire. Hence The Covenant opening at #1 (close enough to vampires). Wiseman will have the dubious honor of being one of the only directors in town who will be able to say he couldnt top Renny Harlin.
that;s the first new john mclane images by Mechasheeva	Sep 30th, 2006 02:46:05 AM
in how many years? my drunk self say AMEN!!
bruce sure looks... by mattyholmes	Sep 30th, 2006 02:58:02 AM
kinda out of shape. And whats with that frikin jacket? www.obsessedwithfilm.com
If this movie sucks there'll be hell to pay by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 30th, 2006 03:03:42 AM
Are you listening Mr Wiseman. No CG crap, just loads of fights and cool stunts please. Or else.
It better be rated fucking R. by mr. brownstone	Sep 30th, 2006 03:10:34 AM
That's all I have to say.
IndustryKiller speaks many truths by KillingJoke	Sep 30th, 2006 03:11:43 AM
Bad story+Bad casting+Bad directing= Bad movie
Amen mr. brownstone by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 30th, 2006 03:13:17 AM
No PG-13 bullshit Wiseman. OK????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baltimore by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 30th, 2006 03:16:07 AM
Is this movie set in Baltimore? Please don't try and pass it off as another city, I hate it when cheapo lameass filmmakers try and do that. You're filming a major high budget summer movie, film the fucking thing where it is set!!!
Bruce Willis doesn't have enough hair left by Dave The Slushy	Sep 30th, 2006 03:52:06 AM
Deal with it. What? You'd rather McClane had a comb-over?
DH4 is just a bad idea by moviemaniac-7	Sep 30th, 2006 04:07:44 AM
I love the first three (well, love the first, like the second and really like the third), but Die Hard 4 is something like Indy 4... A bad idea. Leave it alone, start up a new franchise. Fox has experience with running franchises into the ground (Alien, for example).
half-British, half nerd by BannedOnTheRun	Sep 30th, 2006 04:12:34 AM
So what's the other half? Zing! But seriously, you'd be bald too if this shit kept happening to you. Viva el Bruce!
I'd rather see him with a CG comb-over! by Capfan	Sep 30th, 2006 04:16:04 AM
It's better for him to be balding with hair on the back of his head than to be bald. It's just so damn weird for McClane to be so overly bald. If they can make CG Wookies, they can give McClane his balding but still has most of his hair old-school look.
Bald people have bigger cocks by c4andmore	Sep 30th, 2006 04:30:15 AM
atleast that's what my wife tells me, and I'm as bald as a cueball
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Sep 30th, 2006 04:32:20 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
To those who doubt a bald Bruce Willis... by BannedOnTheRun	Sep 30th, 2006 04:38:01 AM
I have but two words: 12 Monkeys. Actually, make that three words: TWELVE FUCKING MONKEYS! Damn, was that a good movie.
Better behind the scenes shots by fbarich	Sep 30th, 2006 05:18:51 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5 5832232@N00/ I was an extra on yesterday's set and got to film a scene or two with a bloody battered Bruce Willis... These pics cane from earlier in the week.
Flicr shots by fbarich	Sep 30th, 2006 05:23:21 AM
http://flickr.com/search/?q=di e%20hard%204&w=all Sorry. try this
bannedontherun by KillingJoke	Sep 30th, 2006 05:31:18 AM
If you think any 12 Monkeys goodness is carrying over into this your crazy.That was all Gilliam. He gave Willis a list of things not to do in 12 Monkeys. He'll do every single one in L.F.orD.H
I'd prefer a balding McClane by dr_buggerlugs	Sep 30th, 2006 05:39:22 AM
One of the themes of this needs to be how an older, out of shape McClane deals with the threat at hand...the bald patch is essential! But seriously, I'm hoping that Wiseman knows exactly what he's got on his hands (He makes 2 rather mediocre Underworld films and as a result, he get's a fucking Die Hard? That's called the fucking movie gods lucking you out) and pulls something great out because we need to this to be great, not merely passable.
Baltimore by brezzel	Sep 30th, 2006 05:53:54 AM
...is the coolest fucking city on the planet.
c4andmore by chrth	Sep 30th, 2006 06:50:00 AM
How many cocks has your wife seen?!? J/K, couldn't resist. I'm one of the people who were Meh about DH3. Interesting on paper, well-acted, but the last third of the movie was just dumb. As a result, if LFoDH sucks, it won't encheapen the franchise for me because I really just worship the first two films.
You're right, of course, Mr. Joke by BannedOnTheRun	Sep 30th, 2006 07:02:35 AM
I fear this will Suck Hard 2: Suck Harder. Couldn't Tony Scott take this over? Is he too busy? And my favorite description of Baltimore is from Anthony Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential": "Let me tell you something about Baltimore. Baltimore sucks."
DIE HARD SNORE by Captain RawBeard	Sep 30th, 2006 07:45:07 AM
I dont know what to think about this - I love the original Die Hard films and after 3 wanted to see more films in the franchise BUT everything about this doesnt bode well - the title and the synopsis I have read have filled me with fear - make it old school, No wire-fu or slowmo matrixy bullshit. but include maximum destruction. And it had better be an 18 certificate when it comes over to the UK
I'll say this for Baltimore: they got a neat city flag. by CreasyBear	Sep 30th, 2006 07:47:05 AM
Oh, and Bruce has been bald for well over a decade. The last time he truly looked like he did back on Moonlighting, was when he was back on Moonlighting. 6th Sense, etc. toupee` all the way.
Bald badass Mcclane! by tile_mcgillus	Sep 30th, 2006 07:48:31 AM
Fuck it! I love the Die Hard movies. Don't get all in a fucking tizzy because he shaved his fucking head. The director is something we should concerned about. I have high hopes for this. If Mcclane gets to be badass again I will be very very happy!
Good God... by BizarroJerry	Sep 30th, 2006 08:07:26 AM
Is McClane ever gonna get himself cleaned up?
There's a reason the first and third Die Hards... by rbatty024	Sep 30th, 2006 08:07:54 AM
are the best. Because McTiernan directed them, and he knew how a Die Hard movie should work. The second one was surprisingly good, but didn't quite match up to one and three. The real star of a Die Hard movie should be the script which should include some clever dialogue and a bunch of details in the beginning that become important later on. A problem with having a fourth Die Hard is that each one takes a certain location (a skyscraper, an airport, and a city) and then uses it as a sort of jungle gym for the action to play in. They've already used the biggest city in the U.S., so there's no where else to go from there. I have a bad feeling that this will just end up being a shitty action film without any of the qualities that make a Die Hard movie a Die Hard movie.
That lasy picture... by BizarroJerry	Sep 30th, 2006 08:08:59 AM
looks like Bruce is thinking, "I'm Bruce Willis. You can't fuckin' direct me, you douche."
He looks old... by crackerfarmboy	Sep 30th, 2006 08:21:03 AM
Which he is.
Baltimore = D.C.in this film by fbarich	Sep 30th, 2006 08:21:08 AM
kwisatzhaderach, Baltimore is subbing for D.C. in this pic - I was talking to a PA and asked why no actual D.C. filming? Mondo Security - All D.C. Courthouse/Police buildings have concrete jershey walls in front of them and film access has tightend up....
Thanks fbarich by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 30th, 2006 08:22:55 AM
That explains it I guess. Let's just hope it's not too noticeable that it's not DC.
rbatty024 by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 30th, 2006 08:24:35 AM
Well said. The location work on Die Hard With A Vengeance was awesome. You really felt like you were trapped in a maze with the characters. They'll have to come up with something pretty outstanding to match McTiernan's work.
Should have stuck to the jungle thing... by scrivener	Sep 30th, 2006 08:27:26 AM
The other DIE HARD movies are timeless - they've aged extraordinarily well. The problem with the very premise here is that it's about computers - and 10 years from now, it will be painfully apparent what technological era this was filmed in. The whole John McClane in the jungle plot from the scrapped DIE HARD 4 script sounded a lot better than this steaming pile of horseshit. Worse, I have absolutely zero faith in Len Wiseman, the asshole who subjected us to the asstastic Underworld movies. This has just got failure written all over it. Fuck it.
Bruce's head looks like a penis. by scrivener	Sep 30th, 2006 08:30:20 AM
Yeah, also not digging the haircut. Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to make Bruce Willis look like Michael Chiklis? He's Bruce-fucking-Willis. He deserves better than this.
My name is McClane. I am a death dealah. by CTU Mole	Sep 30th, 2006 08:32:49 AM
He looks like a freshly circumcized penis. I think it's a little early to dismiss the film based on the premise alone. For Die Hard 3 the premise was "Goldfinger makes McClane run around solving children's puzzles" and that turned out ok. This one has potential for Willis to beat a lot of emo pussy hacker ass.
No hair is better than a stupid shark-jumping wig by performingmonkey	Sep 30th, 2006 08:35:14 AM
If he had a wig everyone would be saying how the movie automatically sucks due to the wig. Does anyone get the feeling this is around 5 years too late? It's the same with Indy 4, if it was going to be made it should have been frakking YEARS ago, not now when Ford can hardly move. And YES this better be R. The only thing that will save this is if it has the same content level as the first Die Hard, which I know is doubtful but there's NO reason not to make it an R apart from execs screaming for a PG-13 which you'd think Willis could avoid. He better tell them to fuck off and make the badass movie it needs to be.
Walshimore or Balington - Kwisatzhaderach by fbarich	Sep 30th, 2006 08:47:49 AM
Same thing in Enemy of The State. Ya got Will Smith leaping locations - opening a door in Baltimore and stepping into Georgetown!
Come down to the coast, we'll get together... by Osmosis Jones	Sep 30th, 2006 08:54:40 AM
...have a few laughs...
on second thought... by xannibal	Sep 30th, 2006 08:55:20 AM
If his dick has been in Kate Beckinsale, maybe he's smarter than all of us.
I bet this is gonna be... by alienindisguise	Sep 30th, 2006 09:12:15 AM
one heavy handed "Go America" kind of flick judging by the title and location.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Sep 30th, 2006 09:33:14 AM
To quote gibson and glover "I'M TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT!" I've waited 80yrs to say that!
for the love of god, change the fucking title by hiperaktiv	Sep 30th, 2006 10:12:07 AM
It's possibly the worst title ever.
GEt this motherfn BALD off this motherfn WILLIS! by Squashua	Sep 30th, 2006 10:24:22 AM
MAybe McClain has alopecia?
live free or die hard by tulsarick	Sep 30th, 2006 10:25:30 AM
This question has bothered me since 1995. In DH1 & DH3 McLain was a NY cop, but in #2 he had moved to LA to be with his bitchy wife & was a cop there. So in #3 he had moved BACK to NYC?
People keep saying that he is too old... by sillypig	Sep 30th, 2006 10:26:41 AM
isn't he going to have a young side kick? Infact isn't Indy Jones gonna have a young side kick? All of these old stars are getting side kicks or offspring for new films. This will never be rated R or 18's don't be mad! They'd PG the whole thing if we let them.
DH2 out of continuity by tulsarick	Sep 30th, 2006 10:34:26 AM
Sorry about the double post (I`m a posting virgin). McClain was a NY cop in 1 & 3, but an LA cop in 2? Please explain.
sillypig - Justin Long - The by fbarich	Sep 30th, 2006 10:36:48 AM
sillypig - Justin Long - The kid from Dodgeball http://imdb.com/name/nm0519043 /
I'd read the shooting script! SPOILERS by UMAGA	Sep 30th, 2006 11:01:13 AM
It turns out the actual villian is Carl Winslow! He and McClane end up fighting in a helicopter at the end of the movie. McClane shoots Carl in the arm and says "Yipee.." but accidentally breaks the control stick and says "Did I do that?". Carl shoots McClane in the arm when GINO shows up slams Carl into the ocean with his tail. They're all having a beer in a bar at the end of the movie when Sam Jackson shows up and says there's motherfucking snakes in the motherfucking bar and it ends with Lindsay Lohan as The Snakemaster. Harry Knowles gave it seventeen thumbs up.
McClane moved to LA to be with his wife by CTU Mole	Sep 30th, 2006 11:02:18 AM
Apparently between 2 and 3 they had another falling out and he moved back to NYC. Not that hard to grasp. Oh, and he's not too old and if he or Indy has a young sidekick, it's going to suck ass. You fuckers obviously never heard of Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson or Lee Marvin.
Winslow and Long for Punch-Out!: The Movie by UMAGA	Sep 30th, 2006 11:03:00 AM
Scanner Darkly style. You can do it Mac!
If pressed... by El Scorcho	Sep 30th, 2006 11:03:13 AM
I'd rather Live Free.
Detective Scrotes! by mojorising74	Sep 30th, 2006 11:15:26 AM
There! Balder then Micheal Chiklis. And I must say bares an odd resemblance as well.
This Summer McClane has opened the DOORWAY to TRUE EVIL by Alonzo Mosely	Sep 30th, 2006 11:32:13 AM
Can one man stop the hordes of demon possessed meth addicts before they take over the entire world? From the people that brought you Chaos and the best talkback ever, Bruce Willis is John McClane in Die Hard : Jugfuckled. This movie is not yet rated, any similarities to any existing film is purely coincidental because the DEMON never saw that movie, and the producer saw part of it, but fell asleep at some MySpace Bimbo's house, and besides there was that guy who had a proper education who did the script rewrite, it was all his fault. Right now the DEMON has to vacuum the living room...
Wait a minute by hammett1107	Sep 30th, 2006 11:39:15 AM
You're telling me Jerry Bruckheimer can get access to film in DC but John McClane, our national hero, can't?!
Title sucks!! by magnius	Sep 30th, 2006 11:44:23 AM
SOOO Bad!! They should have used "Die Hardest"
BRUCE LOOKED GREAT IN 12 MONKEYS AND UNBREAKABLE... by Jackson Healy	Sep 30th, 2006 11:45:55 AM
...so being bald isn't the problem. It's just that he's a bit out of shape. If he'd drop about 20 lbs or so, I think he'd start to look like John McClane again.
Die More Hard by CreasyBear	Sep 30th, 2006 11:47:13 AM
Nigel: "How much more hard could it be? And the answer is none. None more hard."
Osmosis Jones by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 30th, 2006 11:48:03 AM
Thanks for the laugh there :)
Die Hard 4 Freedom by magnius	Sep 30th, 2006 11:53:15 AM
Die Hardened Die Hard 4ever Umm...any other shitty titles?
Alien 3 by Fortunesfool	Sep 30th, 2006 11:55:47 AM
Morse! Why don't you just shut the Fuck Up. Looks like an Alien 3 extra. Oh dear. Expect badly edited, mediocre action flick. Willis get a round in with pay cheque.
He looks just like by chewingshoes	Sep 30th, 2006 11:56:27 AM
Locke from Lost.
Huh, DirtyRatBastard? by CTU Mole	Sep 30th, 2006 12:03:53 PM
Where did you get the idea that McClane was accused of working with Simon?
Watch DH 3 again... by BigTuna	Sep 30th, 2006 12:09:45 PM
Mcclane barely has any hair, so over a decade later it's understandable he's bald. Bruce looks good bald, and he's been bald in other films, so what's the big deal?
Bruce Willis = by blackwood	Sep 30th, 2006 12:23:18 PM
the only 80's action star still worth a damn... and then some.
Dinosaurs ruled the cinema! by dirtsandwich	Sep 30th, 2006 12:26:58 PM
Harrison Ford, Stallone, and Willis playing roles for younger dudes. On the set you'll probably hear in an old frail voice: "Can somebody help me change my sack"!
Bald?? by plissken77	Sep 30th, 2006 12:28:48 PM
What the fuck??? I wonder about the fucking people in Hollywood. They have no balls. Who in their right fucking mind would think that John McLaine would look cool bald. I'm already hating this movie. And that's a nice looking leather jacket he's got there. Hmm Mr. down beat scrappy foul moluthed chain smokin ass kickin cop has got style all of a sudden. This is fucked. Fucked!! You heard me.
Let's hope by BannedOnTheRun	Sep 30th, 2006 12:46:54 PM
we never have to learn what title they come up with for Fantastic Four 4.
The baldness doesnt make McClane look old by BitterMan23	Sep 30th, 2006 12:55:00 PM
It makes him look like Jeff Talley or whatever his name was in Hostage, or the singer for the Accelerators. And since he'll wear a wig for other roles, it just says to me he doesnt care about the film. He better wear a wife-beater or I wont even consider this a die hard film.
McClane? by Banditmania	Sep 30th, 2006 01:14:35 PM
Oh Yeah.
It's funny that people are complaining... by rbatty024	Sep 30th, 2006 01:22:45 PM
more about Willis being bald (he's been bald for years -- didn't he wear a wig in Hudson Hawk) than they are complaining about the shitty director. I wonder if they even asked McTiernan if he wanted to direct a third Die Hard?
DH3 ending by tulsarick	Sep 30th, 2006 01:35:31 PM
In the DVD alternate ending it shows Willis catching Simon in Europe a few months after being fired for suspicion of being in cahoots with Simon.
back & forth by tulsarick	Sep 30th, 2006 01:44:01 PM
All I was asking about McClain going back & forth between jobs in NYC & LA always seemed too convienent.At the end of DH2 they seemed so happy they lived thru all of it & 5 years later they`re still married but apart & didn`t speak (even to his kids?)& he was able to get his old job back.Just never seemed to fit.
2 and 3 are basically both direct sequels to 1... by Alonzo Mosely	Sep 30th, 2006 01:51:35 PM
Sort of an alternative universe thing. II, despite everything, did a decent job and was faithful to the original. III ignored II and just acted as if it was set a few years after 1, there were no mentions of the events in DC, but plenty of mentions of what happened in LA.
Is it just me... by Logan-X	Sep 30th, 2006 01:56:08 PM
Or does the guy on the left in that third picture look like Tom Cruise?
Where's the green paint when we need it? by Lord_Soth	Sep 30th, 2006 02:04:51 PM
Just paint McClane's head green, so later with cgi you can turn it into 1) hair, 2) terminator skull, 3) a nice penis.
Yeah, I'm with the... by Jaka	Sep 30th, 2006 02:34:57 PM
....I hope it doesn't suck crowd. I mean, it's just a Die Hard movie. It's not like it's going to win 27 Oscars or something. So just make a good Die Hard movie and everything should be fine. I don't care about the hair at all.
opening date by Loosejerk	Sep 30th, 2006 02:45:27 PM
If this doesn't open on 7/4/07, then the title will truly suck.
Looks like a thinner Vic Mackey by Big Bad Clone	Sep 30th, 2006 02:47:22 PM
He's looking a bit old Are they going to use most of the budget to make him look younger via special effects?
Bald is Badass by TopJack	Sep 30th, 2006 03:20:08 PM
He looks worn and tough and cool as shit. When has the John McClane character been known for his lush mane of hair anyway? The way people are bitching you'd think this was "Samson and Delilah." He was half bald in the first three films dating back almost 20 years. This looks a lot cooler and slicker than the dead hamster rug Willis has used for the past 15 years. It's scary that the lack of hair is the chief concern of people. Shows how shallow the whole affair and audience has become.
Eh, don't see the big deal. by Orbots Commander	Sep 30th, 2006 03:20:17 PM
I may catch DH4 when it's released in theaters or maybe wait for the DVD. Either way, it's hard to get excited for the fourth entry in an 80's retread action movie franchise (think Leathal Weapon 4). Yeah, the first one is still great and holds up extremely well, but the franchise is a bit long in the tooth, as is Mr. Willis. Besides, isn't Jack Bauer the new John McClane anyway?
the next DH film can be called Live and Let Die Hard by Exeter	Sep 30th, 2006 03:37:00 PM
and it new and different time of this present world for a new actor to take the shoes of Willis's iconic potrayal of 'Clane. That movie will take place in New orleans in which some jive-talking terrorists operating from underground and connected with voodoo lords have taken the upportonnity of the vulnerability of post-katrina NO to start up a successful drug run, the new McClane could be cast as an actor who's more "funner" and light-hearted than the cold-cynical McClane to tie in with this new age of post-post-neo-modernist new hippie age when the dems win the presidency in 08. Let's call our hero McMoore for now, McMoore is first seen in his apartment fucking some girl while holding up a picture of his ex-wife while his boss, mustache on face, comes in and he must hide his girl in a closet, antics ensue. Then later he sets off for New Orleans, and with a little help from his british-cop counterpart (wearing a bowler hat and lemon-yellow guard jacket) he even gets with a jive-talking black sista. This will be a new take on the DH franchise. Live Free and Die Hard appears to be the producers luring in an aging Willis to re-capture the magic they once had, a sort of DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER feel to it. Let's wait for Live and Let Die Hard with the new McMoore taking over in '09.
VERN: "Now get back in your retirement cage..." by Bob Cryptonight	Sep 30th, 2006 04:07:48 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
Metro McClane by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 30th, 2006 04:07:52 PM
Fuck you Wiseman, you no talent tight t-shirt wearing, little queer. And no offense to queers anywhere, I'm sorry I'm lumping this douche in with your group, but I guess it's better than pissing off the fag community...? I hope that in order to save the world McClane has to learn how to use an iPod, or email some encrypted poetry from his laptop at the local Starbucks. Ugh I hate people!
Die Hard-On..! by workshed	Sep 30th, 2006 04:33:53 PM
Can wait - big fan of all three but especially No.2.
I think it's REALLY funny that most of the people... by Otter	Sep 30th, 2006 04:58:07 PM
... complaining about his bald head have those receding hairlines, and the mullet cut growing long in the back, with the chintzy goatees. Get a grip, Hair Club for Geeks... he's BALD, thank God they didn't give him a fucking ugly toupee to wear. John McClane would shave his head as opposed to a comb-over or Rogaine treatments: he's a man's man.
Am I the only one that thinks DH3 was the weakest? by JackBauer@CTU	Sep 30th, 2006 05:16:02 PM
In fact, I'll go ahead and say that I think "Die Hard 2" was the best of the trilogy (which I have nearly been murdered for vocalizing), with the original soooo closely behind it. One of the things that made the first two films so cool was that it was one man vs. everybody else (and from this premise came many imitators. How many studio pitches have started with "It's 'Die Hard on a...'? "Speed" and "Under Siege" would never have existed without "Die Hard.") Take a look at "Die Hard with a Vengeance", and it's basically another generic buddy-buddy cop movie, with strained race relations thrown in. Not to mention, I thought some of the special effects were pretty bad (e.g. - when the ship blows up - it's such a cheat. No establishing shot of any of the location. Just a cheesy effect with Willis and Jackson jumping against a greenscreen.) And that lame ass ending?!? McClane shoots down a helicopter, and...that's it! Talk about anti-climatic. For once, Joel Silver was missed, and I can only hope that he's involved in "DH4", but I doubt it. Oh, and the reason McTiernan didn't helm "DH4" might have something to do with the fact that he may be Anthony Pellicano's cellmate.
JackBauer by maxwell's hammer	Sep 30th, 2006 05:28:49 PM
Yeah, pretty much.
JackBauer, yeah re: McTiernan. by Orbots Commander	Sep 30th, 2006 05:47:41 PM
It's funny how many people have said, "Hey, McTiernan should be doing this!" without knowing about the full plate the dude has on his hands with trying to keep a court verdict from sending him to federal prison. I'm sure the things he's worrying about are far bigger than not getting to direct Die Hard 4.
Die Flaccid by Bubba Gillman	Sep 30th, 2006 05:50:14 PM
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Looks good to me by slone13	Sep 30th, 2006 05:56:06 PM
Bring it on! Fuck you haters in your ears. See you in hell, douchebags.
It will be good by graycove	Sep 30th, 2006 06:13:04 PM
You'll see.
SUCK MY AIDS COCK OR CHANGE THIS TITLE by godoffireinhell	Sep 30th, 2006 06:18:10 PM
that's all
Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker by Optimus Murphy	Sep 30th, 2006 06:31:32 PM
The body count must be high.
Don't worry, they'll just CG the hair in later.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 30th, 2006 07:05:28 PM
A lot more efficient than Propecia.
Elmore Rigby. by Gilkuliehe	Sep 30th, 2006 07:45:03 PM
I know it's a joke, but this is the first talkback where that actually makes sense. (I'm talking about the NO HAIR ON MCCLANE = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS)
The wifebeater(bitterman23)... by wirefufighter	Sep 30th, 2006 07:55:07 PM
Hey,I wouldn't worry about the wifebeater not making an appearance. You can see it under his green shirt in the 2nd shot. And just for the record, don't mind the baldness, do mind the jacket. Let's keep our fingers crossed. I sure as hell hope it'll be cool, and who knows, maybe he'll kill that apple guy ; )
maybe hes got a sense of style by misnomer	Sep 30th, 2006 08:23:57 PM
cause he's single and has to make a bit more effort. I don't mind the jacket, as long as theres a reason why mcclane has a sense of style....also, the whole bald thing is just silly...wtf, you'd rather he put on a toupee? Let's not hate just yet....
Can't be worse then DH3 by Aluccard	Sep 30th, 2006 08:33:33 PM
I do agree that it's definitely too late to make another chapting in this dying franchise, especially after DH with a Vengeance was so awful. McTiernan really botched Die Hard 3 (with I always read was a failed Lethal Weapon script) and his lateast, 16 Blocks, was awful. I'm interested in seeing what Wiseman does with this...since I enjoyed both Underworld films. Give the guy a chance to direct something out of that genre.
this will be the top grosser of all time by Bob C. Cock	Sep 30th, 2006 09:23:20 PM
bruce as johnny m. = box office gold
Die Hard With A Vengeance by dancinggopher01	Sep 30th, 2006 10:04:17 PM
was not awful.
McTiernan didn't do 16 Blocks... by Osmosis Jones	Sep 30th, 2006 10:09:24 PM
...that was Richard Donner. And DH3 was the worst of the trilogy.
Someone's Preference by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 30th, 2006 10:10:51 PM
of Die Hard 2... Die Harder, being the best in the trilogy, is almost as bad as their preference to the Underworld films over genital torture.
Bauer ... I agree by Defunct Gamer	Sep 30th, 2006 10:28:36 PM
Jack Bauer, I agree, Die Hard 2 was my favorite. I enjoyed the original Die Hard, but there were a few things about it that annoyed me. I have gone back and watched the second one far more than the first or third. And for what it's worth, I didn't care much for the third.
Die Hard 5... by Christopher3	Sep 30th, 2006 10:48:14 PM
Will take place in a nursing home. It'll just be called "Die."
Is this DIE HARD or GRUMPY OLD MEN? by Bill Clay	Sep 30th, 2006 11:41:44 PM
Jeez, does Bruce look like my grandfather! Would it really kill him to wear a wig? He wore hairpieces for Sin City and 16 Blocks, and they looked pretty good. This senior citizen look is gonna kill this movie's buzz.
fucks up with all this DH2 cock riding? by Exeter	Sep 30th, 2006 11:59:23 PM
guys guys, i'll take DH3 over DH2 anyday. does anyone even remember the main villain from that? I just remember some naked dude doing gymnastics, but people do remember the Gruber brothers:Alan Rickman and Jeremy Irons, these two krauts were charming mofos, each one having their own personalities (one being a genius thief, the other being an army guy) and the plot in NY was a roller coaster. Meanwhile the DH2 plot was fucking retarded, planes circling overhead? Land in another fucking airport shitheads. And everytime they'd show Holly looking concerened looking at the window i'd cringe at the cornyness. Also i didn't know that the airport hired walking retards, and apparently badguys can now teleport. What an implausible cluster-fuck. Aside from content, the film was passably made. But DH3 had the intensity as DH1 did, proving only let John McMotherFuckinTiernan direct DH movies. The Gruber arc is the best.
this will suck by Lil LoLo	Oct 1st, 2006 01:04:35 AM
seriously. underworld? worst action scenes ever. DH3 is amazing. irons, jackson, willis. what the fuck more do you want. also, awful title. unless the poster has a bald eagle crying.
DH2 and 4 by Yamato	Oct 1st, 2006 01:39:37 AM
DH2 did not make much sense. How many airports are there on the US eastern seaboard? Come on, as for 4, I have the feeling its going to be some ra-ra "USA USA" type of crap. That it will be a George Bush's America type of reaction to the "terrorists" in the movie. Lots of jingoism and xenophoibia
Bring back Al Powell, Argyle, and Holly then im SOLD! by My Ass Smells	Oct 1st, 2006 03:21:38 AM
TWINKIES, MOTHER FUCKER!
Why can't Uwe Boll just beat Len Wiseman into a coma- by Laserbrain	Oct 1st, 2006 08:11:39 AM
And leave the action films to the grownups? Die Hard 3 may have been a good 50% rubbish but at least it felt like a legit part of the series with McT at the helm. And what's with John's pooncy, haute couture jacket? McClane always seemed to me too down to earth to care that much about his wardrobe or to be compensating for his lack of hair with a full head shave. And Bruce, God love him, hasn't that big a range. The only way his characters can generally be differentiated is by their hairpieces. This dude doesn't look much like McClane to me. Nope. It ain't right.
The only thing Underworld had that was passable... by rbatty024	Oct 1st, 2006 09:35:22 AM
was Wieman's wife. Seriously, those movies made action boring (actually I never saw the second one because the first one sucked so much). A good deal of the action in that movie consisted of two people standing ten feet from each other and shooting for about a minute. Why have Vampires and Werewolves if a simple bullet's gonna take them out? Blade managed to add guns to the supernatural, but that was only because the action scenes kicked ass. Wiseman's gonna kill off this franchise.
Why Die Hard 3 was the worst (until now) of the series- by Bill Clay	Oct 1st, 2006 11:39:45 AM
It can be summed up in one sentence- MCCLANE DOESN'T NEED SIDEKICKS! He's a one man army. He doesn't need to grab some guy off the street to be his 'partner' during the whole film, McClane works alone. It was so obvious that DH3 was just a recycled Lethal Weapon script with Sam Jackson taking Danny Glover's place. And the baddie is Hans Gruber's brother out for revenge? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The oldest cliche in the book. DH2 felt like a Die Hard movie. DH3 felt like any other generic buddy action flick.
wiseman = pg13 (think bout it) by moodymonkey	Oct 1st, 2006 12:00:19 PM
he is a slave to the corporate suckers of satans cock and we all know it. he will do as he is told, and im hoping that willis is ghost directing. and i know i'm possibly reading too much into this (hang on, i'm in a talkback here...), but Mcclane and willis were always so popular because unlike his steroid hooked counterparts, he was believable, and dare i say it he represented the 'common man'. this was obviously reflected in his wardrobe (ie the 'wifebeater' vest). the jacket is just too damn metrosexual for a 'dumb irish flat foot'. i know im not alone here...
Christopher3 that was LOL funny Hahaha! by R.C. the "Wise"	Oct 1st, 2006 12:37:05 PM
Die Hard 5...hahahaha
"half-British, half-nerd" by Ribbons	Oct 1st, 2006 03:18:58 PM
Bwahaha.
DH3 was better thought out & felt like a DH film by Exeter	Oct 1st, 2006 05:03:43 PM
didn't you just hear what the poster above you said? MCTIERNAN AT THE HELM. DH2 was tripe.
I can't believe people even suggest... by rbatty024	Oct 1st, 2006 05:17:23 PM
that Die Hard 2 was better than 3. Two was a good film, but they didn't take advantage of the location like one and three did. The snowstorm helped to create that claustraphobic feel, but they freely moved to new locations (under construction terminal, the church/headquarters, etc.) which kind of killed the Die Hard feeling. In Die Hard 3, even though the location was enormous, you generally got a sense of being trapped in the city. It felt more closed off and they took full advantage of some great New York locations. I have no clue where they can go from three, unless they try and pick up on the family theme that Die Hard 3 kind of dropped.
Die Hard with a Vengeance by deadlegend	Oct 1st, 2006 07:58:52 PM
was the shizzit. "Die Hard 2: Die Harder! The most action-pact, action movie with lots of action and an airport and the same recylcled story as the original and let's suck Renny Harlin's dick..." FOR FUCK'S SAKE, THAT MOVIE WAS HORRIBLE. "McClane doesn't need a sidekick. I'm an ignorant douchebag." You assholes are obviously forgetting that he had a "sidekick" in the original, except he was stuck outside and radio'd McClane the whole time and the movie took place in a building, not across the largest city in the country. McClane didn't just "pick him up", Simon Gruber told him to stand in Harlem with a sign on that said "I hate niggers". Sam Jackson's character Zeus has an electronics shop across the street and narrowly stops a group of pissed black guys from beating McClane's ass. From there, Simon WANTS them to stay together. If Zeus had a choice, he wouldn't be there at all. And what's wrong with racial tension? It's a good obstacle for two people that have to work together to overcome. DIE HARD 2: DIE HARDER SUCKS ALL BALLS IN HELL.
DIe Hard 4 = Transformers 2007 = The Seattle Seahawks by GibsonUSA	Oct 1st, 2006 10:24:59 PM
Why must such happen to things that were once golden?
Lethal Weapon with a Vengeance by Bill Clay	Oct 2nd, 2006 12:13:17 AM
DH3 was originally a Lethal Weapon script, n00bie. That's why half the movie made no sense, because they shoehorned McClane and his 'partner' into the Gibson/Glover roles. You've officially been schooled, son.
I'll say it again... by JackBauer@CTU	Oct 2nd, 2006 03:12:12 AM
"Die Hard with a Vengeance" is the weakest BY FAR. It's the "Beverly Hills Cop III" of the trilogy.
Wiseman may be pumping Beckinsale by Fenton Meiks	Oct 2nd, 2006 05:37:11 AM
But he must have pimped her out to some of the money men at Fox. How else do you explain how this hack with no track record for films that don't involve Vampires, Werewolves, and hobgoblins (probably), has been allowed to direct one of the greatest franchises of all time? In fact, he doesn't EVEN have a track record for Vampire films. The best thing you could say about Underworld is that it was better than Van Helsing. Surely to fuck there was at least one other director they could have got. Someone with a proven record for action films. Robert Rodriguez or Shane Black for example. I mean, how did the meeting go when Fox were deciding who should direct? "This Wiseman guy, he's not quite as bad as Paul WS Anderson" "He's hired!". The whole thing smacks to me of cutting corners. I have no confidence this will be any good. We just have to hope that Wiseman suddenly becomes a good director overnight. If not, looks like my childhood's been raped again (Hi George, Joel, probably Michael)
Just enjoy the ride... by abominate	Oct 2nd, 2006 07:59:03 AM
So many people talking like LFODH will RUIN or END the franchise. Um, for all purposes, it DID end after DHWAV in 1995. I consider myself lucky that someone is making this one. I had to rub one out when I saw these photos. And someone bemoaned that McClane is old and that this will be another retread of a 1980's action movie. Uh, hello--the original Die Hard broke the mold. All other action films since then are imitators. And the sad fact is that although Sly and Arnold and maybe even Bruce are passed their prime, NO ONE has stepped forward. There is no one true action star now (and no, Tom Cruise does not count). Jack Bauer doesn't count, either, because he's on TV, and some people don't watch TV. I myself have never seen 24. My personal opinion is that the three DH films become progressively worse. None of them suck, but the first is great and the second is really good. The third is just plain good, but sorta silly. And I disagree with whoever said that Dulles was NOT claustrophobic. It was a closed-off enough environment for me. What's cool about it is, even with his wife on the plane, McClane coulda just said "Fuck it," and left. New York was not claustrophobic at all. The only thing that kind of made it feel that way was that Simon was using him like a puppet and forcing him to do all the shit.
They could so easily ruin this by godzillasushi	Oct 2nd, 2006 09:48:34 AM
Why is he dressed like that? Oh right they are making a crappy movie.
Shouldn't this take place in New Hampshire? by obi5kenobi	Oct 2nd, 2006 11:34:27 AM
"Live Free or Die" is New Hampshire's state motto. Living in MA I can tell you that not a whole lot happens in NH but they do have a nuclear power plant. Just a thought.
Maybe it's just me... by rbatty024	Oct 2nd, 2006 01:16:20 PM
(although I've noticed others agree), but I still felt like three's location felt more closed off. Thanks to some clever action sequences (trying to get through rush hour) and the use of easily recognizable New York locations it felt like the characters were trapped in the city -- in my opinion anyways. Plus the use of little details in three (the officer using his number for the lottery, etc.) parallel nicely with the little details in the first (Holly using her maiden name, McClane being told to make fists with his toes, etc.) that all become important later on in the movie. The second film didn't have any of these little details. I still like the second movie, but I think three was superior.
ummmm by misnomer	Oct 2nd, 2006 05:41:01 PM
DH3 was never a lethal weapon script. it was called "simon says" and they just slipped mclane in. just like DH4 is adapted from another script of some sort. It's a good way to make sequels that are gonna offer something new imho
This movie should not have been made by Dasher	Oct 2nd, 2006 07:44:57 PM
I loved the first and second, but hated the third. This is yet another franchise that should not have been resurrected. Bruce must be utterly bored with it by now. The whole techo-terrorism concept sounds lame in a "TV miniseries" kind of way.
DH2 felt the least like a DH movie by Exeter	Oct 2nd, 2006 07:47:02 PM
what makes DH different from all its imitators is the clever plot of the bad guys, a very smart action film, almost elegant the way DH1 and 3 were. DH had a "generic actioner" stink to it.

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